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May 12, 2025 26 mins
Ken Rosato fills in for Larry Mendte and talks about more tech issues at Newark International airport, and the mayor of Newark of being arrested for trespassing at an ICE detention facility.  Cardinal Timothy Dolan joined Larry to talk about the selection of the American Pope and what to expect from the new leader of the Catholic Church; Fisher talked about the return that nuclear power is making with smaller plants that can be AI controlled.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And a very good morning to you. Happy Monday. It
is Ken Rozatto in and Larry had a little car trouble,
so I said, hey, you know what, what the heck,
I'll come in. I'm not doing anything. I hope you
don't mind. I still have my hair up in a bun. Natalie,
I hope you don't mind the way it looks.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's a great look for you. Good to see, and
thanks for jumping in so quickly. Never fun when you
have car problems in the morning right.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now, been there a thousand times. It's definitely an issue
that you don't want. Especially. It's one thing when it
happens at eight thirty in the morning or something and
you're driving into the office and somebody could sit in
for you whatever, you just be in the meeting. But
when you got to be on radio or television and
it's three o'clock in the morning and you don't know,
that's what it's terrifying. So it's a horrible Hey. Nonetheless,

(00:45):
it's Hey, here's a couple of things. I'm having fun
with you, guys. It is a beautiful Monday. We're gonna
have sunshine today. It's gonna be highs in the upper seventies,
around eighty in some places, or mid seventies in most places.
And that's a good way to start today. But we
got a lot of trouble things to talk about here.
Did you guys see what's going on with Newark Airport again?

(01:05):
What the heck is going on with Newark Airport? I mean,
I live twenty minutes from ne York. I know you're
not that far from Newark Airport. But again, the Newark
Airport faced disruptions again over the weekend because they have
that equipment issue, forcing a forty five minute ground stop.
The FAA reporting that they had a telecommunications problem at

(01:26):
the Philadelphia tradecon facility. Here's what I don't understand. We're
a radio station right now, We're all over the place
in different studios because of the circumstances we had. You're
able to hear me. I'm able to transmit on a
fifty thousand watch signal to millions of people. Everybody can
hear me. Why is it that the federal government, with
a supposedly limitless pile of cash cannot get this damn

(01:50):
thing to work? It is unbelievable. But this has been
going on now for a week and a half. So
this is all because we are operating our radar for Newark,
one of the busiest airports in the United States, out
of the Philadelphia Traycon facility, and that manages Newark's airspace.
So apparently there were popping sounds on radio frequencies. I

(02:12):
don't mean to laugh, because I fly to Newark. I
don't want to get stuck in that. But apparently there
were popping sounds occurring from their Traycon facility. Imagine you
got a seven to four coming in from Beijing headed
toward Newark Airport and yeah, okay, all right, seven for
all right China air Oh oh wait, yeah, that's not

(02:33):
what you want. We could kind of make light now
because everything was okay, but it's just by the grace
of God, everything's okay. So now controllers say they switched
to a backup system the other day. By eleven am,
operations returned to normal. But that was the third technical
issue at Newark in two weeks, following the brief rightar

(02:54):
outages that occurred on April twenty eighth and again on Friday,
which also disrupted flights. So the FAA says they are
investigating as controllers face ongoing challenges. But I don't know
about you. I got big problems with this. This should
not be the case, not in the year twenty twenty five,
when we have the technology we have, and this has
been an issue now for years. Let me harken you

(03:17):
back to the year twenty thirteen. Something that I talked
about on the air when I have filled in for
Mark Simon and also on this very morning show that
in the year twenty thirteen, there was a Washington Times
report that talked It was actually in an op ed,
but it made headlines and it was re published in

(03:37):
twenty twenty four in the New York Post. By the way,
so you can google this and look it up. And
this goes back to twenty thirteen when Obama was president. Apparently,
when Obama was president, there was a class of thousands
of air traffic controller candidates and under Obama, Obama wanted
to set aside a certain number of positions for air

(03:58):
traffic controllers, specifically for people of color. Okay, admirable. That's
a good thing, because you know, unfortunately over the decades
you had a system whereas if you had if you
were in any shade other than the alabaster you need
not apply. I get that. That's fine. But when you
do that and say, let's set aside these jobs, even

(04:19):
though we need thousands of air traffic controllers right now,
we won't hire these eleven qualified air traffic controllers. Instead
of hiring these eleven hundred or thousand or two thousand,
Let's set the jobs aside and wait until the time
comes when we get eleven hundred or one thousand African American, Hispanic,

(04:40):
Native American, whatever, and then they will get the jobs.
When you need air traffic controllers right this second. That's
not what you do. And unfortunately that's what was done
for at least anywhere from three hundred to one thousand positions.
They were literally set aside. Again, it would have been
fine if they allultimately hired those three hundred five hundred

(05:03):
people of color, but they didn't. That is so. If
you recall when there was the Washington crash, the Washington,
DC air crash with the helicopter, President Trump said we're
looking into something that could have been connected to DEI,
and everybody freaked out right away. He's blaming DEI. What
he meant was he wasn't trying to suggest that somebody

(05:26):
who was non white was at the radar and they
had something to do with it, or that the pilot
who was flying the plane was a female and she
had something to do with it. That was not the suggestion.
You have to then harken back to the article in
the Washington Times in twenty thirteen. Was what he was
referring to was, then, what is being investigated from my

(05:47):
sources behind the scenes is when we needed hundreds, if
not one thousand, air traffic controllers to replace people retiring
back in twenty thirteen, what had happened was instead of
hiring this incoming class of mostly white qualified air traffic controllers.
And I only say qualified because they passed the exam.
In fact, they passed three hundred past the exam perfectly,

(06:09):
they were given a second exam under the Obama administration,
and in that second exam they were asked questions like
what sport did you excel at in high school? What's what?
Were you ever a pilot? Were you ever an air
traffic controller? And if you said yes, I was a pilot,
Yes I was an air traffic controller, you actually had
points deducted from you, which is insane because the point

(06:31):
was The thought, ostensibly in the act of that second test,
was let's try to ask are you a minority who
it may have been discriminated against? Without saying are you
a minority who may have been discriminated against? So let's
ask leading questions that might give us an answer based
on stereotype that happened under the Obama administration. According to this,

(06:52):
Washington Times up ed that they have never denied. It
has never been denied, and so as a result to this,
we are short hundreds, if not one thousand, air traffic controllers.
Which is why you have these overworked people, and you
have a system that is crumbling nationwide because these people
can barely cover a shift, let alone think outside of

(07:13):
the box. These people are working fifteen sixteen hour days,
six day weeks. They're burned out. They're burned out, and
we're relying on them to safely get our planes in
and out. Guess what I got news for you. In
this era of AI, we could sit down and put
together a system relatively quickly. In fact, many of the
computer giants are saying, hey, give us a couple of weeks,

(07:35):
we'll get together and have a system. We just have
to input the data from all the airports and the
idea that this is happening to harken back to it
is just absolutely ridiculous. And you have Secretary of Transportation
Duffy's saying we're going to revamp the system. But again,
this is something that could take a while. But anyway,

(07:55):
we'd love to hear what you have to say. By
the way, you could leave a talk back if you
go to the Iheartraate radio app and click on wire
there's a little red microphone at the top. Click on
that and say, Ken, you don't know what you're talking about.
Bring Larry in here right now, go home, or say
you know what, Ken, You're right, I read that article.
Let us know what's the thing. Also, did you have
you been following what's going on in Newark with the

(08:18):
mayor of Newark, Rosparaka. I do a show in the
state of New Jersey for a channel called on New Jersey,
and so we cover New Jersey news very very let's
say we're on it ros Baraka. You didn't hear a
word from ros Baraka until he declared his candidacy for governor. Now,

(08:38):
all of a sudden, if an envelope is opening in Totawa,
New Jersey, ros Baraka is present. So, of course, when
the federal government under Obama used the very facility in
Newark that is at the center of controversy right now.
Obama used this to house one thousand migrants years ago.

(09:00):
Not a peep out of ros Baraka and his buds.
Not a peep. Then it was used by Essex County Jail,
which is right next door, was used by the jail
as a halfway house. Not a peep from anybody on
the left. Fast forward to the Trump administration. Orange Man
bad comes in and all of a sudden, we have
an issue.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
One of the issues is they're trying to say that
six of the plugs, six of the electrical outlets don't
meet code. Why because somebody, some person who is being
held kicked the plug plate and as you could bring
an electrician in and how to fixed in twenty minutes.
But they're trying to cite silliness like that. Oh and
somebody apparently vandalized the electrical components on the gate at

(09:42):
the front. So somebody in the dark of night just
put a hammer to it and they're truns. You see,
this doesn't meet code. This is what the mob did
years ago. This is ridiculous, and they're trying to say
as a result, this building doesn't meet code and they're
demanding access to go in and show the horrible conditions
that people who are or who are migrants or illegal migrants
would be held under. This is a facade, This is

(10:04):
a joke. And if Ross Baraka were not running for governor,
you would not hear or see a word about this.
It is now coming up on six sixteen, seven to ten.
Woar the Voice of New York. It's Ken Rossotto. Larry
is having car trouble. Maybe we'll check in with him
in a little bit. My thing is always carry a
little extra gasoline in the back. Or if it's a tesla,

(10:26):
you put your tongue up to the positive and negative
terminals and see if you get a spark on your tongue,
and then you know. If you don't do that, don't
do that. No wonder what I'm kidding it. It is
now six sixteen, Hey, New York. At Cardinal Timothy Dolan
is just back from the Vatican after taking part in
the conclave that chosen American and as Pope. He will
be coming up with us next to talk on Pope

(10:47):
Leo the fourteenth seventy ten wor you're eminent. It's so
good to have you on, and I know you're in
one of my favorite places on the planet. You've had
a busy couple of weeks. By the way, if you
haven't gone to breakfast yet, you know, I mean, I
know it's afternoon. There there's a place called Cafe de
la Camari, which I highly recommend.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, you know there's another one here Ken called Home Baked,
which has American breakfast which aren't bad, and I've learned
to find it. I can get some pancakes, eggs, bacon,
not bad at all, not as good as New York diners.
But anyway, I miss you, guys. I'm homesick. I've been here.
Now it'll tomorrow. It'll be three weeks since I departed

(11:28):
from my beloved New York City for Rome for the
funeral of Pope Francis, and then of course to stay
for the preparations and then the Conclave of Art now
already beloved Pope Leo the fourteenth, and I decided ken
the formal they call it the Mass of inauguration, I
mean the minute he says at the Sistine Chapel at Chepto.

(11:51):
He's after the ballots have been counted and shown to
be in his favor. The Cardinal Dean says to him,
You've just been nominated as Supreme Ponzer for the Roman
Catholic Church. How do you respond? And the minute he
says that Czech tho, he becomes the successor of Peter,
the Bishop of Rome, our holy father of the pope.
So he's officially been pope since then, but the formal

(12:14):
mass of inauguration will come this coming Sunday in Saint
Peter's Square at ten in the morning. Tough for you
guys to cover, but I thought I better stay for that.
It'll be an honor to pray with and for him.
I want to show him all the support and enthusiasm
that I can, So I'm going to stick around and
then come back a week from today. Is that all right?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
That works? Cardinal? I'll have to ask you just between us,
nobody else is listening as you and me. Okay, you
obviously got to cast one of the votes. Did you
vote for Leo?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Listen? I know your ratings and it probably is between
you enough for you and me.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Honestly, I have to, for real, I have to ask
you for a serious question when you want you're obviously
you've been through several of these now as cardinal. Does
it still send chills down your spine? When you bet it.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Does, Ken, I've only been through one. I was there
twenty thirteen after the surprising resignation of Pope Benedict, the
conclave that elected Jorge Bogolio the arch Chishop of Buaitis
at Pope Francis. So there's only my second one. But
you're right. I was kind of looked upon now as
a senior because I'd say eighty five percent of the

(13:30):
cardinals and the conclave were rookies. So yeah, but you
are correct. It still does not fail to I mean
the whole thing, Ken, just walking into the Sistine Chapel,
being there in prayer and doing the votes, and when
he went over the required eighty seven to win that

(13:52):
we just all burst into tears when he said that,
chap Tho. The tears continued when he went in by
what name? Will you be chill and will you be called?
Was the next question. When he responded, Leo, we were
all kind of surprised, or wasn't one of the names
one would have thought of, but it makes eminent sense. Again,
the tears continued. He goes into the corner room to

(14:14):
change into the white robes. They bring out the chair
that the Holy Father in which he sits, which had
been empty. We use that Latin term sade vicante empty
chair at the death of a poem. They put it
in the center in front of the altar. And then
he comes out of the what they call the room
of tears. He comes out clad as the new Roman Pontiff,

(14:38):
and we cried again, and know, you know, we were
all of a sudden reduced to kind of kind of
like kids on Christmas morning. And it does not fail.
And then I tell you, Ken, you watched it. You
guys reported it? Well, uh it it? Then, of course,
when we then process out to get to the square,

(15:00):
we're there when we hear the cardinal deacon tell the crowd,
how Amus Popham we have a pope, which sends up
this this towering eruption of applause and exuberants. And then
of course the minute he walks out, it goes on
and on and we're just again, we're like kids opening
Christmas present. It was an exhilarating experience.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, I'm we got about ten seconds left and I
have to ask one quick question here. He is he
has shown I think that he is as centrist as
centrist can be, because he has he has uh of
course coming out with with the mozetta, when he came
to the balcony, to the loggia, and when he's when
he prayed in Latin, when he prayed in Italian.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
He just he.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Seems to be reaching out to everybody, and I think
I haven't heard a negative word from a lot of people,
even lapse Catholic. You're falling in love with this man.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Let's let's hope that could last. And I think you're
onto something. Ken. He is you know he use the
word a temperate, a moderate. Uh, it's just kind of
a measured, shy, simple, humble, thoughtful, sensitive listening Tella. We've
all fallen in love with him. Obviously we would ever
he wouldn't have gone out on the balcony. But I
think you're on target, Dick. Yet he's winner.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, our fingers crossed and our prayers for him and
for you. We want you back safe and sound asap.
We'll be looking for the installation Mass and God bless you,
God bless the College of Cardinals, and of course God
bless you. I'm a lifelong Catholic and I will keep
praying for him. You bet your awt all.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Thanks to all the hometown crowd. I miss you and
I highly appreciate all the assurances of prayer and support.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Thanks you're Emmins. Timothy Cardinal Dolan live from Rome. Thanks
for being on seven to ten wor tell you what
we have. Of course, big news in terms of AI
and nuclear power. Apparently nuclear power generation could be making
a dramatic comeback with some new smaller regional nuclear power
plants that can be controlled by artificial intelligence. That's either

(16:59):
very good or very scary. And part of the reason
is that you know, when you have this artificial intelligence
being used with these search engines, you need tons of electricity.
So it's sort of a self fulfilling prophecy, self feeding situation.
So with us to talk about this is somebody who
knows a lot more about it than me, Brand and

(17:20):
digital strategist Fisher. He's on to join us to tell
us all about it. Good morning to you, Fish. You
get to have you on today.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Honor to be here. Ken thanks for having me, you bet. So.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Now the deal is, we talk about artificial intelligence, but
it requires tons and tons of electricity in order to function, right,
especially when everybody gets online using it at the same
time and years ago, the same liberals were against nuclear power,
but now that it means it will power AI, suddenly
they seem to be for it. And Google's getting behind
is tell us about it?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, So, I mean, besides artificial intelligence and the data
centers that require the data centers required power AI data centers.
In general, we're on an uptick right because everything's in
the cloud. You have, you know, all of your personal stuff,
whether it's Google Drive or anything, Apple, et cetera, et cetera.
But companies are moving their services what they call off

(18:15):
from off the premises into the cloud, so powered by Azure, Microsoft, Google, Amazon,
So now there needs to be even more power. So
we're already sort of behind, and now we're really going
to be behind because of artificial intelligence. So a couple
of weeks back, Chevron announced that they were building and
providing power to their own data center. So they're going

(18:35):
to build the data centers and then they're going to
provide the natural gas or whatever the energy source is
and then they will lease it out.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
So now nuclear developer Elemental Power signed it agreement with
Google to develop three sites powered by nuclear. Google's going
to fund the projects, which will generate at least six
hundred megawatts each. Dot Brown would be very jealous. Now,
this doesn't own them, mind you, This is just providing
the capitals as they commit to early stage development. So

(19:02):
then Google will have the option to buy the power
once the sites are up and running.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
That's fascinating. So but it's just amazing that if if
it didn't come to the push coming to shove, where
all these different the new claps and stuff just requiring
so much draw of power that they wouldn't have even
considered going back to nuclear. But nuclear can be done
in so much a safer way today with smaller plant.
These are not the three mile island size plants, right,

(19:29):
So these are these are plants that are fit even
in a smaller footprint than a current power plant.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Correct. Yeah, it's not the storm nuclear power plant that
I'm used to from growing up, so right, it's it's
very small in relative size, of course. But again we
were coming to this point and and so you know
the main reasons that this is required is because the
power that would draw off the grid would be ridiculous.
And I know if you're you've been in a you know,

(19:56):
a light rainstorm, in your lights flicker, You're like, what's
going on here? Edge of having some sort of data
center down the block and then drawing all that power,
so providing their own power. Now, again, this is to
provide power off the grid, So they would they should
in relative terms not even be connected to the grid,
but they could in theory sell power back to the

(20:18):
grid and provide sort of a stronger back bone for
for the power companies in the regions that they're in.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
So this is basically a battery to operate this. This
is not this is not gonna be the lowering our
electric rates. But maybe if this thing does work for AI,
if then for the clouds, maybe it'll be it'll be
developed for the massive.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Power, for the elemental power in this case, which is
the partner with Google. It wasn't originally developed or you know,
came to light in twenty twenty two. I believe for
Google it was for nuclear power and for you know,
separate energy. So the lessons learned by how they deal
with Google might be able to be used for normal

(21:00):
power companies and how you know these many nuclear power
plants could help the grid overall.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And we are listening to brand and digital strategist Fisher
seven to ten w R. This is Ken Rozotto Infulari
MENTI on your Monday morning Fisher, What about AI? This
is sort of weird that it's AI powering a nuclear
facility to give power to the AI. So it's it's
sort of this weird thing going on. But is it
something we should be happy about? Because you know, one

(21:28):
of the issues with Three Mile Island was that there
was an issue with the controls and everybody started evacuating
the plant and then because the plant was overheating. But
if you have AI controlling it, AI never has to evacuate, right,
AI could stay even if there was a God forbid
a tiny nuclear leak. The AI, the computers will keep
going and keep this thing running because it's feeding itself.

(21:50):
Now is that a good or bad thing?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I mean yes, right, ye, yes, because in theory, the
AI should be able to you know, AI is emotionless,
so you know, were there people that were second guessing
themselves right in the control room and deciding you know
that reading seems off or whatever. So in theory, AI

(22:13):
should be able to see these problems before they're ever
a problem, right and then adjust power resources, shut down
things if needed. So, yeah, it's a good thing. But
to your point, is AI being in charge of AI
a bad thing? Now? You know, of course there might
be some regulatory restrictions laws about not having people on

(22:37):
prem on site, so there might still be people on
site just in case, you know, there's a manual override,
if you will. But yeah, I mean, I think it's
good that it would put less people in a close
proximity in trouble if something did happen, But there needs
to be some sort of oversight, whether remotely or having
a few folks on site to manage it. Now, again,

(22:58):
these nuclear systems would also be at data centers, so
you know whether or not the data centers might have
some engineering crew and folks like that that would be
would be available in case something happens, you know, will
remain spe seen.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Eight forty four seven w R The Voice of New
York Monday Morning. Ken Risotto in for Larry Menty and
we're on the phone right now with Digital strategist Fisher
and some good news too for those flying out of
Newark Liberty Airport. Tell us about United making upgrades to
its fleet that should make the flying experience more enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah, this week United Airlines will be rolling out Wi
Fi powered by Elon Musk's Starlink to their more than
one thousand planes. Now, the benefit of Starleink, besides stable
internet and fast speed, is you'll be able to use
the Internet from the time you board to the time
you did plane at your destination. The Wi Fi is
going to be free. All you need to have is
your Mileage Plus account and you should fly United. That's

(23:53):
just the frequent Flyer account and that's totally free and
you'll have fast speeds. You still will have to agree
no phone call, snow video calls. You can't do your
meetings or talk to your kids on FaceTime. But yeah,
currently United has four vendors providing internet, so it'll be
nice to have one. And as a Delta user myself,

(24:13):
I remember the days of Go Go and the various ones,
so it's nice now to log into my sky miles.
But United's going to be offering this. It should be
rolling out across all the planes within the next couple
of years, but they'll begin rolling them out this week,
which is fantastic. And if anybody flies and uses the internet,
they know how great of a story that is.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I remember when they had do you remember, in fact, Natalie,
you come in on this. Please remember when they had
the phone in the back of the headrest in front
of you and you could use your credit card for
like five hundred dollars a minute, yes, to make a
phone call. That was so cool.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I'm flying right home over Dallas, girl.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I have to tell you, I'm still shocked when I
can communicate with people on a plane, and I know
I shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I mean, it's he's twenty.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Five, but like when I I use DM, like I'll
be on like Instagram DM talking to my kids or whatever.
I'm like, why am I so surprised that this is possible?
But it really does make a flight more enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
And the amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Right Natalie is using her encyclopedia sized cell phone up
against her she's making It's just amazing the technology you
just amazing. Yeah, but that is it is fascinating. And
I could see how they would not want to they
would not want people making focals. I could just being
I would be the guy next to the guy who
hey Joey, yeah, Liicien. Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Now?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
You don't want that flight? Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I see. Fisher knows me for thirty something years, so
he knows that I would be that guy. Allow.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I don't know if anybody might have.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh no, yess good for a talk show host though.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
That's it. Talk to you again, Fisher. You're done, You
were done?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
All right?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
That is our tech expert Fisher, Thank you so much
for being by the way, if you'd like to check
him out, you can check him out at fisher is
his username and through his website FISHERT Media. Always a pleasure.
Thanks for coming on this morning, sir,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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