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June 5, 2025 27 mins
Larry Mendte talks about  the Trump administration’s threats to Columbia University and the FBI investigating the Boulder, CO attacks as terrorist attacks. Craig McCarthy speaks about the NYC Mayoral debate last night and who he believes were the winners and losers.  Steve Guttenberg joins Larry to talk about his role in the new film ‘Kidnapped by a Killer: The Heather Robinson Story’.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. Tell you it's gonna be a nice one today.
I hope you left the code at home. If not,
leave it in your car when you get to work.
It's gonna get up to eighty nine degrees today. You
know what stinks, though, you know what really stinks. It's
gonna be nice today. It's gonna beautiful today. It's gonna
be really nice tomorrow and then Saturday, Saturday showers. If

(00:20):
we could just switch it around, like we could take
the showers today the hours today, it'll be fine. But
we've been waiting for a nice weekend. And well, Sunday
is gonna be all right. Sunday's getting back down to
seventy five. It'll be beautiful, but partly Sunday. So anyway,
you don't need the code today. In the Big Three,
did you watch it? I was dreading watching this debate, thinking,

(00:44):
oh my god, there's too many people. It's gonna be dull.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
In the first New York myr Old debate, it turned
into a Andrew Cuomo roast.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Personal question was about your personal regret in your non
politics isaid.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I regret the state of the Democratic Party is no person.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Your Trump no regrets when it comes to cutting medicaidor healthcare.
No regrets when it comes to cutting child care. No
regrets when it comes to slow walking PPE and vaccinations
in the season of COVID to black and brown communities.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Really, no regrets. It was something We'll talk with Craig
McCarthy from the New York Post about the CUOMO roast
at seven thirty five. The Trump administration is threatening Columbia
University's accreditation for allowing anti Semitic behavior on campus, and
that affects one of the mayoral candidates in the debate

(01:41):
last night.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
My daughter is one of them in college right now.
My wife and children are Jewish. This is personal to me,
but I am and these mobs, Let's be clear. We're
incited by activists like the Democratic Socialists of America.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
By the way, zorin Mam. Donnie is a Democratic Socialist
and that's why said that. By the way, is Whitney Tilson,
who I think nobody knew was running until last night's debate.
The FBI is making it crystal clear it is investigating
the attack on Jews in Boulder, Colorado, as a terrorist attack.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
We're not the Federal Bureau of freaking word games anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Okay, it's the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's Dan Bongino. He is the deputy FBI director, and
so the investigation into a terrorist attack will continue at
the FBI. Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill may be in
trouble in the Senate, with some calling for a whole
new bill.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
We don't have time for a branded bill.

Speaker 8 (02:43):
And I want Elon and all my friends to recognize
the complexity of what we've accomplished here with this extraordinary
piece of legislation.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah you heard him, mention Elon. Elon Musk is the
one causing all of this. A handful of conservative senators
are concerned about the bill's price tag and adding to
the deficit. And Krene Jean Pierre has a new book
out trying to distance herself from not only Biden but
the Democratic Party. Karine, we all remember.

Speaker 8 (03:13):
Do you believe that the president is as sharp today
as he was when he took this job?

Speaker 9 (03:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Slowed down.

Speaker 10 (03:21):
What I can say is this is a president who
is strong and resolute in delivering for the American people.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
That's what I see.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
He is as sharp as as ever as.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I have known him to be.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
In my engagement in my experience.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
With him, and that was near the end of the administration.
She was still saying that the book isn't out until
the fall, but she put out a video because she
wants to distance herself from the Biden cover up. Now
that's going to be investigated by both Congress and the
Justice Department. I don't think it's going to work. But
maybe now that she distanced herself, she can be a witness.

(03:59):
Go to the Eye radio app and leave us a
talk back about anything. I'd love to know if you
saw the debate. I would love to know what your
thoughts were in the debate, because I seriously I knew
I had to watch the debate, but I'm thinking to myself,
oh my, there's nine people, most of whom nobody cares about,
and most of whom do not have any shot of winning.

(04:22):
And so you have to sit there, and everybody wants
to see Cuomo and Mandanni go out, go out of
each other. Everyondey wants to see that. But wow, what
it turned into. It turned into, As I said in
the Big Three, it was an Andrew Cuomo roast right
off the top, starting with Zorain Mamdani.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
I am Donald Trump's worst nightmare as a progressive Muslim
immigrant who actually fights for the things that I believe in.
And the difference between myself and Andrew Cuomo is that
my campaign is not funded by the very billionaires who
put Donald Trump in DC. I don't have to pay
up the phone from Bill Ackman or Ken Lang going.
I have to pick up the phone for the more
than twenty thousand New Yorkers who contributed an average donation

(05:07):
of about eighty dollars to break fundraising records and put
our campaign in second place.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Spoted that, yeah, please.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
You know, mister Mandami, he's very good on Twitter and
with videos, but he actually produces nothing for him to accuse.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Me of lyne.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
He also called President Obama a liar and said President
Obama was evil.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
So take everything with a grain of salt.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That just started it. It was a couple hours of that.
You know, there were some dull parts in between, but
it seemed like everybody on the Mamdani got some shots
because you know, he's rising and he's in second place.
But Cuomo was the one that they were going after constantly,

(05:53):
and he was trying to do the best he can could.
But he's taking incoming from everybody.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Donald Trump would go through mister Montdaumby like a hot
knife through butter. He's been in government twenty seven minutes.
He passed three bills. That's all he's done. He has
no experience with Washington, no experience in New York City.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
He would be Trump's the light.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Council Woman Ramos at the end had a great line
she said at one point was they were asking what
are your greatest regrets? You know, it's one of those
throwaway questions you think it is because you want quick
answers from everybody. Turned out to be one of the
best questions at the debate because that's where a lot
of the tension came from. And we'll get to that

(06:37):
in a minute. But when they went to council Woman Ramos,
she said, my biggest regret is that I didn't run
four years ago because I had already passed twelve bills
through the council and I think made the city safer.
But I didn't run because I didn't have enough experience.
Who knew that you can run just after making a

(06:58):
few good videos. It was a shot at Zorin mom Dami,
who's constantly taking criticism about the fact that he's just
not ready for any of this. It was so it
was such a Cuomo roast last night that Josh Eineger

(07:18):
had the lead report on Eyewitness News last night, and
he pointed it out right off the top.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
One of my regrets is having trusted the leaders within
our own party, leaders like Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
From almost the first moment of this chaotic debate.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
The people who don't feel safe are young women, mothers,
and grandmothers around Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's the greatest threat to public safety in New York City.
It was open season.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
It's not only that Andrew Cuomo lied to Congress, which
is perjury. He also lied to the greeming families whose
loved ones he sent into those nursing homes to protect
his five million.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Dollar book deal.

Speaker 8 (07:56):
On one man, Andrew Cuomo has the nerve to talk
about defund when he signed the Bell Reform bill with
loopholes that you didn't even win.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Here's the thing, I have a feeling that a lot
of people didn't watch the debate. A lot of people
didn't watch it because you know, it was long, and
most of the people you didn't care about. So I'm
not sure the effect this is going to have. Except
now there's gonna be Adiron on this. We're talking about
it on talk radio. It's going to be played on

(08:28):
the news constantly, and you're going to see just what
I played for you. You're going to see the attacks
on Andrew Cuomo. This is going to have an effect.
And the problem is who is it going to help?
The socialist the worst candidate, the scariest candidate of everybody

(08:53):
on that stage. Now, I will say this, in most
of the Pole's Adrian Addams is third. Now, she's as
scary as zurein Mom Donnie, maybe just a little less scarier.
And by the way, she did go after Cuomo right
near the end in that In that do you have
any regrets question?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Personal regrets? Question?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Was about your personal regret in your non politics is said.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I regret. The state of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is no Trump, no regrets when it comes to cutting
Medicaid or healthcare, no regrets when it comes to cutting
child care, no regrets when it comes to slow walking
PPE and vaccinations in the season of COVID to black
and brown communities. Really no regrets.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
It was constant. It was constant. He was the Pinona
at the kids party, they were all taking shots at
Andrew Cuomo. It's got to have an effect. It is scary, though.
It is a little bit scary at who would then
get the Democratic nomination and automatically be the front runner

(09:59):
for me. So you have to now we have to
like pray for Curtis Leiwa or Eric Adams. Eric Adams
is better than any of them. Wow, there's going to
be an effect on this. I can't wait to see
the new polls because there's no question that Andrew Cuomo

(10:19):
took a beating last night and it's going to have
some type of effect. I've been talking a lot this
morning about the mayoral debate, the Democratic primary mayoral debate
last night that was on NBC, and how it seemed
to turn into the Andrew Cuomo roast. Let's talk more

(10:40):
about that with Craig McCarthy, City Hall Bureau Chief at
the New York Post up and looking forward to this, Craig,
I wanted to get your thoughts, just give me some
general thoughts at first, what did you think?

Speaker 7 (10:50):
No, thanks for having me on. I mean, I think listen,
we all walked into this knowing that it was going
to be a Pieon and Andrew Cuomo. You know, listen,
only one other candidate really in the has gained any momentum,
and that's the DSA Socialist candidate, does Zoramandani. I mean,
all of these candidates were really looking to make a
name for themselves, right, trying to land a good one liner,

(11:10):
a good singer, but also at the same time get
some policy in there, get some information out there about them,
because most of these people aren't even pulling into double digits.
So it's sort of exactly what I expected to happen
last night. But you know, it's still I would say, entertaining,
entertaining CV to watch.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
So pick some winners and losers for us.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
I mean, I think, listen, the bar was set pretty
low for Cuomo at this point. I mean, I think
it's safe to say that we walk away saying he's
he is one of the winners here, right. I mean,
he pretty much didn't have to trip walking up to
the podium and he would have kind of come out
the winner here. But you know, listen, he successfully went
back and forth with some people, countered a bunch of

(11:57):
things and accusations, and you know, I think he was
a little bit strange taking him taking some shots at
people that was kind of like kicking some of the
candidates while they were down. I mean Land's specifically kind
of going after his wife. I mean it was for
a front runner, kind of a little bit strange in
that situation. But you know, listen, I think two of

(12:19):
the kind of lower polling Dems that are trying to
get some sort of catch fire at this last minute.
I mean, people I talked to you thought Adrian Adams
did very well, you know, was her interruptions were you know, concise,
and she actually hit some good policy things. And then
Michael Blake I think was just the wild card of

(12:41):
the night and I think stood out. But he's not
gonna be there next week because he has no money
and didn't get matching funds. So next week we're down
to seven candidates.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Well, the other person to talk about is the is
the candidate that that's rising and zoring mom Donnie. How
did he do? Do you think?

Speaker 7 (13:00):
I mean, I think he held his own I think
this he landed a bunch of attacks, a little subtle
jabs on Cuomo. Cuomo went back and forth with him.
I think it kind of showed that Cuomo in his
camp do fear him as a true challenger to him,
because they had a bunch of attacks ready for him,
and they were ready to go at him with that.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
He listened, you.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Know, these debates. I don't think it hurts I think
it I don't think it helps him as much or
hurts him. I think it kind of keeps the momentum going.
I actually think what's happening right now as we're talking,
we're writing the article and doctor post at the Times
broke this morning that you know, AOC just endorsed man
Donnie has her number one rank choice. I think that
probably will have more effect on his campaign than the

(13:45):
debate last night.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, who didn't see that one coming though? Of course
AOC was going to endorse Mondanni, don't you think I
mean that's that was kind of a given from the beginning.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean there was Listen, there was a little
bit of a back in about whether go to somebody
like Lander who's not as far left as as Mendanni.
And then also, why would you weigh in in something
when it seemingly you don't want to endorse the person
who then loses it kind of like takes away the
steam of your endorsement power. But yeah, I mean it

(14:20):
was widely expected it would either have been Ham or
of Lander in the last few weeks.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I know that there was a few people that went
after mom Donnie a couple of times, but it did
seem like he was almost leading a group of people
that there's a lot of people that are that are
far left candidates that have decided to team up together
to try to take out Andrew Cuomo. And we've seen
that at news conferences too. After a while, I know

(14:49):
you were saying that he did a real nice job
and you don't think there's gonna be that much of
an effect. But after a while, I mean, I'm getting
a little bit nervous because I think Zuri Mamdani would
be horrible for the city. And I'm getting a little
bit nervous because it does seem like the AOC endorsement
now all of these people working together to take out
Andrew Cuomo and mam Donni seemed to be skating through.

(15:11):
I know Cuomo took a couple of shots, but the
media really hasn't been after him like I think they should, Like,
how is he going to pay for everything? Did you
see that last night? That it was almost a posse
of mam donni people going after Cuomo.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
Well, I think you know, listen, the media has really
pointed out all of these, highlighted all of the things
that Mendanni wants to do since the beginning, since he
sat down with us. In the follow up articles and
pointing out political had a great piece as well, like
pointing out how most of these things that even if
he could get done, doesn't guarantee the money for New
York City, such as reasoning they're capital attacks, and most

(15:49):
of the stuff he needs Albany to do. The vast
majority of it he needs Albany to do to even
do it, to get these policies funded. I mean, I
mean working together and doing this. This is this is
putting in part of their strategy, part of their their
dream act. And and I think we you know, listen,
people inside the Cuomo camp that I've spoken with and

(16:11):
or sources, I know that smoking with the Quomo camp.
We reported this the other day that they expected Andrew
Cuomo was never gonna galvanize a movement behind him. He's
already well known, he has name recognition. People already made
up their opinion on him. They just they knew inside
the camp when they started this campaign, and this is
why he launched it so late, was that they just

(16:32):
needed to essentially survive to the to the primary day.
But they were there was always gonna be the fear
of somebody catching fire, whoever it was, and now it
is Mandani.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, who would have ever thought, Ma'mdani though. I mean,
and look, I've watched an interview with them on MSNBC
the other day, and of course MSNBC has them on,
but I watched them Morning Joe. He was spounding out
all of these policies, all these things he was going
to do, give things for you to this person, and
get things for you to the free housing, free free vounchers,
all of this stuff. Never once was he asked how

(17:05):
he was going to pay for that, because he's not
gonna get money from the Trump administration, right right.

Speaker 9 (17:11):
I mean, his whole plan is running on raising the
corporate tax and taxing more wealthy people. I mean, listen,
I think the math on that is a little bit
funky at this point, and it's not clear that he
would even cover it even if everything went his way.
But I was gonna have to remember the you know,
the two mayors ago. I mean the reason why he

(17:31):
won was he promised universal three K and pre k.
I mean that was It's easy, you know, the momentum
in these campaigns. It's easy to campaign in something and
saying let's give everything away for free, and then people get.

Speaker 7 (17:46):
Excited about that in post to a fiscal responsible moderate
Democrat who's coming in and saying, well, we just want
to run the city effectively.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Does he have a shot at winning the I mean
he went from one percent to the point and then
in one last poet he was down nine points and
among likely voters almost tie on like the fifth ballot.
Does he have a real shot at winning this?

Speaker 7 (18:13):
I think he has a At the current moment, he
definitely is a strong shot. I'm not sure. I still
think he has a ceiling here from everybody I speak with,
he is too far left for a lot of people.
I think the Israel issue is a sticking point for
a large voter block. And I think if you look
at the rank choice voting in the last poll, which

(18:33):
is where you're talking about, goes to the tenth round
and he loses nine points to America, Andrew Cuomo comes
out with fifty four percent, and he has something in
the mid forties. And I think the words telling and
where I've been explaining this to people is that if
you look at when you when you eliminate a stringer
and uniinate Lander, there whoever those voters are their number

(18:55):
two or their number three picks or the number four
picks are Andrew Cuomo, because the law majority of those
votes when they are eliminated from the ballots go to
Andrew Cuomo. So I think there is and you know, listen,
I mean two form control and a former control. I
think they're they're kind of pictured and as this more
get stuff done, more like very let's just kind of

(19:17):
run the city effectively. So I think there is a striving,
uh for that for the voter base. And I think
that kind of shows that I think somebody like Mandonie,
I think the fear with with some of the voters
and why he's capped is that is these really really
a far left socialist moves and in an agenda with
you know, obviously the free buffing the grocery stores. I mean,

(19:40):
here's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
People for everything.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Craig McCarthy, City Hall Bureau Chief of the New York post.
Thanks so much, Creig real good. Well, we all know
Steve Gutenberg is a great comedy actor in the Police
Academy film Academy Films and Three Men and a Baby.
He's an actor, producer, director, author, he is a businessman.
He has a star in the Hallywo Hollywood Walk of Fame,

(20:02):
and he has a new project coming out. And so
if you remember him in Police Academy, if you remember
him in Three Men and a Baby, this is nothing
like that, Uncle John.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
I want to know the truth.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I owe you a story. John.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I've been a suspect for murders.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I don't know what do you think you're gonna find here?
You did something to those women. It made some mistakes
in my life. He's not going to stop until somebody
stops him.

Speaker 10 (20:30):
I want to know where I came from? Is this me?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I did not form anyone? Can you believe it? I know,
I know. It's really good, It really is good. It's
kidnapped by a killer. The Heather Robinson's story. This is
based on a real life story and Steve Gutenberg plays

(20:54):
John Robinson. Steve, thank you so much for being here today.
This is a wow you. I've been watching clips of this.
You are too good in this as a serial killer.
You were really good.

Speaker 10 (21:08):
Thanks you so much. It's a great opportunity and I'm
first of all, I'm glad to be on your show. Thanks,
and Lifetime is it's a terrific network, a great platform,
and they give me the opportunity to play this serial killer,
which an actor only really gets to play once in
his career. There aren't that many parts for serial killers.

(21:30):
But I really enjoyed playing the part. It was a great,
great challenge and I think I succeeded. And the research
was difficult because this is a guy who led a
heinous life. But it's a true story. But the real
was that it is going to be with Heather, Heather Robinson,

(21:51):
who was adopted by her parents not knowing that she
was actually stolen from her mother by her uncle, supposed
uncle who actually murdered her biological mother and gave her
as an infant to his brother and sister in law.

(22:12):
It's a fascinating story. You know, you couldn't make things
up like this. I always find that absolutely true life
is weirder than fiction, but in this case, it really
it really just broke the ceiling. So I hope everybody
gets to see it on Saturday night at eight o'clock

(22:33):
on Lifetime. And I'm really proud of my performance.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, well you were great at the clips I've seen
that you were great. Is it difficult? Is it difficult
to become this person a serial killer? No?

Speaker 10 (22:47):
I always look at work as bum and I'm grateful
to work. I love to work, So no, difficult. There's life.
There's occurrences in life that are difficult. Work is not difficult.
It's a great opportunity to prove yourself, to use my
skills and my craft and create an illusion that I

(23:10):
am a certain character, like all actors do. Every actor
in every play or movie or television program is creating
an illusion. So I got the opportunity to do that again.
Usually actors are cast for what they can play their players.
You know Gary Cooper or you know anybody who you'll see.

(23:35):
I've just pointed out Gary Cooper is not funny Gary Grant.
We'll always play Carry Grant and that's who you want
to see. But when you're able to disappear into a
role like I did with John Robinson, was it's a
great opportunity. And when we actors love that we love
to do an hour and a half of makeup, which
I did create a different walk, a different positioning, a

(23:58):
different posture, different voice. So it was really a great opportunity.
And now you know what works not difficult. Not working
is difficult.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, that's a great point. Although there are some actors
that get so involved in a role it almost haunts them,
and it's good to hear that that doesn't happen with you.
You can walk away from a role of playing a
serial killer and it doesn't affect you afterwards.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
Right, everybody's different, you know, all human beings have different tolerances,
and there are some actors that need to be method
and need to be in the character all day and
they need maybe to bring that character home. I don't
think it's fair for my for my coworkers to have
to deal with somebody who's who's putting sort of a

(24:47):
burden on them that you have to act like they're
that character unless I really need it. But then I'll
keep my circles small. But when I come home, I
absolutely don't think it's fair to everybody in my life
to sort of create this illusion that I'm so important,
that my work is so important that it takes me

(25:08):
a few hours to come down from it at the
end of the day. That's not fair. The truth is
we're not that important. Actors are not that important. We're
doing a job, just like bumbers and politicians and accountants
and teachers and nurses and doctors. We're all doing a job.

(25:29):
Some people are more important than others. I would say
maybe doctors and emergency service yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, but absolutely that my job is that important.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
The last time we talked to you was during the
wildfires out in Los Angeles and you were out helping
your neighbors fight, get back and survive and help them
to get their stuff out of the houses. How are
you doing, how's your house doing? And how are your
neighbors doing.

Speaker 10 (25:57):
Well. The Palisades and the Altadena are full of resilient,
hopeful people and strong people, smart people. We've got a
terrific One of our leaders is Rick Caruso, who's a
great builder and developer, and he's going to do a
lot of great work in the Palisades. Everybody is doing
the best they can. We can't really hide the fact

(26:20):
that it was an insane natural disaster. Six thousand homes
were burned to the ground, total loss.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
That means let's say four people a home, you got
twenty five thousand people without their homes. It's a lot
of people double that with the Altadena fire. So it's
a very difficult time. Everybody puts a smile on their face,
gets up in the morning, does their best, and that's
what we do as human beings. We want to be
our best. But it's not without it being a very

(26:50):
very difficult time, and it's going to take many years
for both Altadena and the Palisades to come back. The
hills are getting green again, which show that mother nature
is so resilient, and it'll take a long time to
rebuild all these homes and take a long time to
get everything back to normal.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, we all remember you out there helping people, and
we're gonna probably remember you for a long time after
people watch Kidnap by a Killer the Heather Robinson's story,
because it's a different Steve Gutenberg than you're used to.
But you did a wonderful job that Saturday, June seventh,
on Lifetime at eight p m. Thank you so much,
Steve for spending some time with us.

Speaker 10 (27:31):
Thanks for having me on the show, really appreciate it,
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