Larry Mendte discusses the NJ primary election today in the race for Governor, the continuation of the LA protests against ICE, and Eric Adams statement about the LA protests saying that it wont happen in NY. Rich Lowry speaks with Larry about the ICE protests in Los Angeles and how it all started. Joe Borelli talks about the NYC Mayoral race as the polls continue to change and show more support for Zohran Mamdani.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's going to be a little bit foggy right now
(00:01):
if you're driving in and there'll be some showers passing by.
But after that, after that, Tomorrow, Thursday is going to
be sunny. So just get through today and keep saying
to yourself, it's the mantra you have to keep repeating
over and over again. We need the rain, We need
the rain, we need the rain. In the Big three,
it's primary election day in New Jersey and the race
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for governor. Former Assemblyman Jack Chittarelli holds a big lead
in the polls for the Republicans, But what about the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
On the Democratic side, It's really hard to pick out
a front runner at this point. Recent polling has shown
Mikey Cheryl with a slight lead, perhaps, but always within
the margin of error. And so I think if you
told me right now that you are going to wake
me up on Wednesday morning and tell me that any
of the six had won the Democratic nomination, I really
wouldn't be very surprised.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Wow, first time I heard that. In Los Angeles, after
forty two arrests and five police officers hurt in the
anti ice riot, it looks like sending in the national
guard worked. Rioters aren't going anywhere near the federal building anymore.
The rest of LA however, that's another story. Four knights
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of violence in Los Angeles, and still Governor Knewso refuses
to ask for federal help, so the ICE officers have
to stay on federal land. The governor is, however, taunting
the borders. Are Tom Homan, who said he would arrest
any public official who hindered ICE arrests. He's a tough guy.
(01:40):
Why doesn't he do that? He knows where to find me.
The hell is this guy come after me, arrest me.
Let's just get it over with. Tough guy, you know,
I don't give a damn. Homan's response, basically is I
have no idea what Governor Hairgel is talking about. The
Mayor Eric Adams makes it clear that what happened in
(02:00):
LA can and not will happen here.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
New York City will always be.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
A place to peacefully protest, but we will not allow
violence and lawlessness. The escalation of protests in Los Angeles
over the last couple of days is unacceptable. It would
not be tolerate if attempted in our city.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The Harvey Weinstein retrial is teetering right now on a mistrial,
as some members of the jury were trying to convince
holdouts in the jury room using information from other trials
and news reports, and the judge was not happy.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
He pulled him out, and he told them again, this
case is about the evidence that you've heard here from
the witness stand. It's not about anything that you may
have heard before, and you can't use anything other than
what you've heard in this courtroom for your deliberations.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Deliberations continue today, and we lost another music legend. Well
remember him coming up. But let's start with the Democratic primary.
The Democratic primary for New York City mayor is effectively
a two man race now between Andrew Cuomo and Zurin
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mam Dami. Two new internal polls show this. But the
thing is, you have to look at who's doing those
two poles. There's no question it's a two person race.
In both polls. Everybody else not named Cuomo or mom
Dami are way down in the polls, way down, I
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mean single digits. So everybody else has been eliminated, Stringer Lander, everybody,
you name him, they're gone. So the one survey is
the one that's getting a whole lot of attention. The
survey conducted by Data for Progress, so the name right
away Data from Progress. It is progressive. So it's going
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to lean a little bit left. Now, even when I
say it leans left or it leans right, they still
have to show their methods, you know, they have to
print them, and so yes, in the way you ask
the questions, you can slant a pole, but still the numbers,
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and the numbers are not going to be affected all
that much. Usually there's somewhere you really can, but in
a race for mayor, it's really doubtful that you can.
So in the survey conducted by Data for Progress, this
is on behalf of a super pack for mom Danni
found Cuomo up just two points, and the ex governor
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had a pole that was funded by his super pack
that he got in trouble for by the way, and
had some funding from the city cut That shows them
up twelve points. And the really fascinating thing about the
Data for Progress poll, which is getting all the attention
because it's so close. You know, they have to go
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through rank choice. It doesn't really matter till the end, right,
it does. Until they get to the end, it doesn't matter.
So the first round is almost insignificant. But when you
get to the end in the eighth round, they said
somebody will finally get over fifty percent and there'll only
be two people left by the eighth round, and it's
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Cuomo fifty one percent and Mamdani forty nine percent. And
the other thing about the poll, which which is consistent
with all polls, is that there's still a whole lot
of people who have no idea who Mamdani is twenty
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three percent, over one out of every five voters that
is likely to vote. He doesn't know who he is.
They all know Cuomo and there's real currency in that.
So in a tight race, the person that's known the
best wins. I'll give you a Cuomo's real pole real quick,
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and then I'm going to get over in New Jersey.
So he had a poll by Expedition Strategies, which has
been supporting Cuomo. It shows Mamdani getting beat by twelve
points fifty six to forty four again in the eighth round,
So both of them are consistent. It's going to take
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eight rounds to elect a mayor as some of the
other candidates start dropping off because they can't meet the threshold,
and so both polls show Cuomo winning, but there's one
poll out there that shows that it's going to be
very very close. So those people that are undecided and
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those people who don't even know who Mamdani is maybe
hate Cuomo. So in both polls, this could be anybody's race,
and that gets a little scary. There's another debate on
Thursday night, and they're all going to go after Cuomo again,
but more after Mom Donnie too, because Mom Donnie didn't
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have the best debate because of what he said about Israel,
and that's going to be, believe me, a hot topic. Now,
let's talk about New Jersey and right now, because that's
what you do in New Jersey, right, Natalie, you're from
New Jersey. Diners, that's where everybody campaigns. Heck, yeah, everybody
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campaigns in a diner. Wants to be at a diary.
That's right. We're in a train stop, either a train
stop or a diner. That's the only place you're going
to find people. And so here are three of Accountant's
campaigning and they all agree that the number one issue
right now in New Jersey, well, it has always been
this way in New Jersey because of the high taxes,
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because of the high property property taxes especially and the
cost of housing in New Jersey. It's affordability.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
The number one thing I hear about is housing. So
mortgages and rental crises have just gotten too high for people,
which is why I'm committed to building more housing and
driving down those costs.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We've got affordability crisis in New Jersey. You've got a
public safety crisis in New Jersey, public education crisis, over
development issues in our suburban towns. Number one, it's people
are just feeling crushed by the costs right and about everything.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
There are taxes, utility bills, food, childcare.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's Mikey Cheryl who is out in front for the Democrats,
Jack Chitarelli who's out in front for the Republicans. And
the last person was Josh Gottthheimer. But you heard that
political analysty at the top of the show saying it
can be anybody's race at this point. They believe any
one of them can win. As a matter of fact,
let me play that again.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
On the Democratic side, it's really hard to pick out
a front runner at this point. Recent polling has shown
Mikey Cheryl with a slightly perhaps but always within the
margin of error. And so I think if you told
me right now that you are going to wake me
up on Wednesday morning and tell me that any of
the six had won the Democratic nomination, I really wouldn't
be very surprised.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That surprised me. But then I started looking at the numbers,
and he's absolutely right. He is absolutely right that it
really could be anybody's race at this point because the
margins are so low and there's a whole lot of
undecided voters. So that's going to be the most exciting
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results tonight. By the way, the polls just opened at
six o'clock, so if you haven't voted you live in
New Jersey, you still have a lot of time because
they're open until eight o'clock tonight. It's going to be fascinating.
We'll talk we'll be talking about it a lot tomorrow.
In the meantime, in Tennessee's something that doesn't happen every day.
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People were looking up in the air at something slowly
flying by and saying, is that a zebra? We'll explain next.
Plus tickets to see James Taylor at eight twenty five. Now,
let's get to Rich Lowry, editor in chief of the
National Review, or you a beef? Were you a big
sli in the family stone fan? Rich big familiar with
(10:23):
their work?
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Enjoyable enough, No.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You don't sound like you're a huge fan, though. Enjoyable
enough isn't a raving review. Enjoyable, enjoyable enough, isn't as
somebody you'd go see in concert. You know, let's talk
about what's going on in Los Angeles right now, and
there's so many things to talk about. But I thought
you send people to a fascinating interview, and that's what
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started these riots in the first place. What was ICE
doing out there? What were they doing well?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
On last Friday which started this, they were doing some
work site raids, including one at a home depot. I
don't understand why home depots are supposed to be considered
off limits for immigration enforcement, given their well known gathering
places for illegal immigrants. But there's one home depot, and
then some clothing wholesalers and the like where they had
search warrants because they had indications that these places were
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employing illegal immigrants with all sorts of fake documentation, which
is very bad. And then on Saturday there are more
targeted raids against illegal immigrants who had been deported and
come back, which is a felony, or had gone through
the entire process and had their orders of final removal
issue by a judge and they hadn't left. So this
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clearly is a category that everyone should be in favor of, right,
you know, But instead it pore fuel on the flames.
And the left is just basically opposed to immigration enforcement
as such. And it wasn't peaceful protests, wasn't just exercising
First Amendment rights. It was violent resist stense to federal authority.
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And Trump reacted to that appropriately.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And here we are again, and it's seeming just like
the wildfires. I mean, all you can think about is
how bad Mayor Bass was and how bad Gavin Newsom
were on the wildfires, and how they may have caused
those wildfires in the first place, especially Gavin Newsom, or
at least contributed to them. And once again they are
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fighting law enforcement, at least they're fighting the National Guard
coming in, and they're fighting Donald Trump on this. You'd
think with the pictures we'd seen and the video we
see every single day, they would want the National Guard
in there to secure the area. They certainly secured that
federal building.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Yeah, so the Guard has a fairly limited role. It
can protect other federal personnel and protect other federal buildings.
So you look at the pictures of the National Garden
what they're doing when they're not a lot of them
out there yet. Two, they're not like cracking heads. They're
just standing in front of the building to keep them
from getting attacked. And you have all these officials saying, oh,
this is such a terrible provocation.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
How could you've.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Done such a thing to us. They're not doing anything.
They're just protecting federal officials and federal property. It's the
cops who are out on the streets, and that the
cops are getting attacked by these protesters. So you think
they'd be, uh, every public official be telling the people
who leave the streets to stop and never do this,
and instead they're they're blaming Trump. No.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's a great point because when you watch all the
National Guard troops standing in front of the federal building,
nobody's bothering them, nobody's taunting them. But when you see
the police, they're shooting fireworks at them, they're throwing rocks
at them. They need help.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, So on the on Saturday night, I was sorry.
Sunday night all runs together. The police chief had press
conference as ass do you need the National Guard? And
you wouldn't say yes, right because you can't say that politically.
But he's like, well, we are overwhelmed and the situation
is out of control. So again it's the National Guard.
They're not marching down the street dealing with these protesters.
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But but they they're they're an assistance that. You know,
otherwise a bunch of other people would have to be
standing in front of those buildings, right, a bunch of
La cops, right, So it helps, it helps at that
at that level. But these the left is just insane
on immigration. There's a brief moment after Trump won where
they're like, you know, maybe we should have done more
of the border.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Et cetera.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
But they've they flipped back to total insanity. Everyone should
support people who have orders of removal leaving right, they've
gone through the process, they've had their due process. But
instead even that drives them insane.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and it's no wonder Donald Trump won so easily
and he's winning again. They're they're giving him victory after victory,
just like Kilmar Abrego Garcia. They're still clinging to him.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Yeah, so it's if Trump could script this, he'd have
a bunch of violent protesters resisting Ice and waving flags
from a foreign country. Right, And what are they doing.
They're violently resisting Ice and waving flags from a foreign country,
and Abradio Garcia I thought it was you know, as
soon as they realized they violated an order sending him
(15:19):
to this prison in El Salvador. I don't think you
should have been sent to a prison a Salvador regardless
without a trial. But as soon as they realized this mistake,
they just said, have brought him back. And now they
have brought him back, and they've they've charged him because
he was not just a Maryland father. He wasn't the
father of the year. Apparently he was routinely engaged in
human smuggling. And the facts in the indictment about this
traffic stop in Tennessee that was unearthed, you know, a
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month or two ago, are completely damning.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
He said he was picking up construction workers and bringing
back from Saint Louis. The car was never anywhere near
Saint Louis. And none of these guys had luggage, none
of them had any tools or construction equipment so it
was clear what was going on.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Thank you so much, Rich Lowry, editor in chief of
Nagtle Review. I agree with everything you said today, Rich,
Thank you so much. Now let's go to Joe BURRELLI,
Managing director of Chartwell Strategy Group and former Minority leader
of the New York City Council.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Good morning, Joe, top of the morn Larry. Thanks for
having me sure absolutely all the time every week. And listen,
there's two polls out today and both polls show that
on the Democratic primary side in the mayoral election, it
is a two person race. I guess we've known that
for a while. The I guess the big news is
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the difference in the two polls. Both have Mom Donnie
and Cuomo going to the eighth round and being the
two men standing. One from a pack that supports Cuomo
has him winning by twelve. The other with a pack
that is run or supports Mom Donnie, has Cuomo winning
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by two. Do we read anything into that at all.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's split the different and say he's, you know, winning
by about six or seven points. But the real number
is that both have him going to the eighth round,
meaning this is a neck and neck horse race until
that last minute, and like, you know, there really is
no way of predicting how people are going to vote
in their fourth, fifth, six choices on ranked choice voting.
(17:21):
You know, we only have familiarity with saying who do
you like in a poem? Right, I like Joe Schmo,
I like Mary Jones. But we've never had really a
knowledge of polling eight rounds down the ballot, seven rounds
down the ballot. So I still think it's anyone's race. However,
the change really has been the the Cuomo packs, the
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outside money that's supporting Andrew Pomo have shifted a little
bit from support just doing ads supporting Andrew Pomo to
also doing ads attacking Zoha and Mam Donnie. There was
a great ad I just saw on the TV this morning,
you know, just highlighting all the crazy things Mam Donni
wants to do, which is the antithesis of what essentially
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Andrew Cuomo is saying, raising taxes, defunding the NYPD, stuff
like that. The problem is a lot of people remember
when Andrew Cuomo had some of these same positions, Right,
this is the guy who raised taxes and raised state
spending over his ten years in office. So much that
New York led the country in out migration. And he
I don't know if you remember, he tried to blame
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the weather. He said, the weather is why people are
leaving upstate New York, and it's just not true. The
number one destination for New Yorkers by by percentage was
actually Vermont, of all places, colder than New York, worse
weather than New York. So it's I still think, Larry,
I've been saying it for a couple of weeks now.
I still think it's a closer race with Cuomo in
the lead, But it's closer today than it was last week.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, And it's definitely two people at this point when
it gets past this primary, because almost the primaries don't
really matter as much anymore because both Cuomo and Mamdani
are going to be on other lines as independent so
or as a Working Families party. But so they're all
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going to be on this ballot coming on, coming up
a little bit later. And one of the people on
the ballot is the incumbent Mayor Adams, who, more than
anyone else is if you put them all together, he's
polling the least. Does he have any shot whatsoever?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's really gonna depend on the
Democratic primary. I mean, you know, we could say that
they're all on the ballot, and that's true, but the
person who has the pole position is going to be
the person who's running as a Democrat. The enrollment Democrat
the Republican is something like six to one in New
York City. So it's mission critical really for Andrew Cuomo
or Zohran Mondoni to be on the Democratic line. If
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Zorn happens to win, you know, it's gonna be tough
for Andrew Cuomo to win. It's gonna be tough for
Eric Adams to win. But at that point, it would
only take a plurality of voters, and it might be
a plurality that doesn't go higher than in the low thirties,
you know, thirty three, thirty four to thirty five percent
could actually win a mayoral race when you have, you
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know this many candidates, right, you have you'll have two
major party candidates, whoever they are to be determined, right,
we know, Curtis, we will be on the ballot, but
to be determined on the Democratic side. But then you
have essentially an incumbent mayor, right, mayor Adams and you
have an incumbent governor with such high name recognition. This
is a dynamic we just have never seen in politics
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in New York in modern history. It's always been sort
of whoever the Democrats came out of the Democratic primary
versus whoever the Republicans had, and if the city was
bad enough, if the city was you know, decaying enough,
the Republican had a shot. We had that with Mayor
Giuliani when the city was really twenty three twenty four
hundred murders a year. And we had it with Michael
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Bloomberg after nine to eleven when people really wanted a
stability and restoration of the city coming out of that
horrible Attech. I just, you know, if we didn't flip
to Republican under build a Blosio. It's tough to see it,
but we never had this dynamic. If Nicole Melly attacks
who ran in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, rather, if she
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ran in a race where she had the chance to
have a plurality of votes and win, if she only
needed thirty five percent, thirty six percent, thirty seven percent
of win, she could very well be on her second
term as maya right now.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, I see that. I mean, this is something Curtis
Lee has been talking about for well over a month now,
that this gives him an opportunity. But as you're saying,
it probably gives any Republican with any type of credibility possibility,
because what do you think they would need to get
thirty three percent?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I think a Republican needs to get thirty four percent,
thirty five percent, those are possibilities. I think if a
Republican gets thirty nine percent forty percent, they probably win.
So Curtis's challenge is trying to convince people that he
is not the showman that he was. I mean, this
is a guy who's been in your industry, right, He's
been on the radio, he's been on the on the
on the talking head circuit kind of you know, he's
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been sort of the avant garde of challenging authority in
New York City, you know, with the Guardian Angels going
back forty years. But can ken voters see him as
someone who is capable of leading the city. That's what
if I was advising Curtis Lee, what I would advise
him to do, And I think he's taking my advice
because you know, he's he's coming through events. I've seen
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him events. He's coming to events, you know, wearing suit
and ties and trying to look the part of the
mayor who can also be a competent manager. On the issues.
When you pull the issues, he is right on most
of the issues, and neither are issues that range from
eighty twenty issues in his favor to you know, fifty
five to forty five in his face.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's a great point. It's a great point. I
think he has a real shot. Joe Burrelli, Managing director
of Chartwell Strategy Group and former Minority leader of the
New York City Council
It's going to be a little bit foggy right now
(00:01):
if you're driving in and there'll be some showers passing by.
But after that, after that, Tomorrow, Thursday is going to
be sunny. So just get through today and keep saying
to yourself, it's the mantra you have to keep repeating
over and over again. We need the rain, We need
the rain, we need the rain. In the Big three,
it's primary election day in New Jersey and the race
(00:22):
for governor. Former Assemblyman Jack Chittarelli holds a big lead
in the polls for the Republicans, But what about the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
On the Democratic side, It's really hard to pick out
a front runner at this point. Recent polling has shown
Mikey Cheryl with a slight lead, perhaps, but always within
the margin of error. And so I think if you
told me right now that you are going to wake
me up on Wednesday morning and tell me that any
of the six had won the Democratic nomination, I really
wouldn't be very surprised.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Wow, first time I heard that. In Los Angeles, after
forty two arrests and five police officers hurt in the
anti ice riot, it looks like sending in the national
guard worked. Rioters aren't going anywhere near the federal building anymore.
The rest of LA however, that's another story. Four knights
(01:17):
of violence in Los Angeles, and still Governor Knewso refuses
to ask for federal help, so the ICE officers have
to stay on federal land. The governor is, however, taunting
the borders. Are Tom Homan, who said he would arrest
any public official who hindered ICE arrests. He's a tough guy.
(01:40):
Why doesn't he do that? He knows where to find me.
The hell is this guy come after me, arrest me.
Let's just get it over with. Tough guy, you know,
I don't give a damn. Homan's response, basically is I
have no idea what Governor Hairgel is talking about. The
Mayor Eric Adams makes it clear that what happened in
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LA can and not will happen here.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
New York City will always be.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
A place to peacefully protest, but we will not allow
violence and lawlessness. The escalation of protests in Los Angeles
over the last couple of days is unacceptable. It would
not be tolerate if attempted in our city.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The Harvey Weinstein retrial is teetering right now on a mistrial,
as some members of the jury were trying to convince
holdouts in the jury room using information from other trials
and news reports, and the judge was not happy.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
He pulled him out, and he told them again, this
case is about the evidence that you've heard here from
the witness stand. It's not about anything that you may
have heard before, and you can't use anything other than
what you've heard in this courtroom for your deliberations.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Deliberations continue today, and we lost another music legend. Well
remember him coming up. But let's start with the Democratic primary.
The Democratic primary for New York City mayor is effectively
a two man race now between Andrew Cuomo and Zurin
(03:21):
mam Dami. Two new internal polls show this. But the
thing is, you have to look at who's doing those
two poles. There's no question it's a two person race.
In both polls. Everybody else not named Cuomo or mom
Dami are way down in the polls, way down, I
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mean single digits. So everybody else has been eliminated, Stringer Lander, everybody,
you name him, they're gone. So the one survey is
the one that's getting a whole lot of attention. The
survey conducted by Data for Progress, so the name right
away Data from Progress. It is progressive. So it's going
(04:06):
to lean a little bit left. Now, even when I
say it leans left or it leans right, they still
have to show their methods, you know, they have to
print them, and so yes, in the way you ask
the questions, you can slant a pole, but still the numbers,
(04:26):
and the numbers are not going to be affected all
that much. Usually there's somewhere you really can, but in
a race for mayor, it's really doubtful that you can.
So in the survey conducted by Data for Progress, this
is on behalf of a super pack for mom Danni
found Cuomo up just two points, and the ex governor
(04:50):
had a pole that was funded by his super pack
that he got in trouble for by the way, and
had some funding from the city cut That shows them
up twelve points. And the really fascinating thing about the
Data for Progress poll, which is getting all the attention
because it's so close. You know, they have to go
(05:12):
through rank choice. It doesn't really matter till the end, right,
it does. Until they get to the end, it doesn't matter.
So the first round is almost insignificant. But when you
get to the end in the eighth round, they said
somebody will finally get over fifty percent and there'll only
be two people left by the eighth round, and it's
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Cuomo fifty one percent and Mamdani forty nine percent. And
the other thing about the poll, which which is consistent
with all polls, is that there's still a whole lot
of people who have no idea who Mamdani is twenty
(05:53):
three percent, over one out of every five voters that
is likely to vote. He doesn't know who he is.
They all know Cuomo and there's real currency in that.
So in a tight race, the person that's known the
best wins. I'll give you a Cuomo's real pole real quick,
(06:15):
and then I'm going to get over in New Jersey.
So he had a poll by Expedition Strategies, which has
been supporting Cuomo. It shows Mamdani getting beat by twelve
points fifty six to forty four again in the eighth round,
So both of them are consistent. It's going to take
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eight rounds to elect a mayor as some of the
other candidates start dropping off because they can't meet the threshold,
and so both polls show Cuomo winning, but there's one
poll out there that shows that it's going to be
very very close. So those people that are undecided and
(06:57):
those people who don't even know who Mamdani is maybe
hate Cuomo. So in both polls, this could be anybody's race,
and that gets a little scary. There's another debate on
Thursday night, and they're all going to go after Cuomo again,
but more after Mom Donnie too, because Mom Donnie didn't
(07:18):
have the best debate because of what he said about Israel,
and that's going to be, believe me, a hot topic. Now,
let's talk about New Jersey and right now, because that's
what you do in New Jersey, right, Natalie, you're from
New Jersey. Diners, that's where everybody campaigns. Heck, yeah, everybody
(07:40):
campaigns in a diner. Wants to be at a diary.
That's right. We're in a train stop, either a train
stop or a diner. That's the only place you're going
to find people. And so here are three of Accountant's
campaigning and they all agree that the number one issue
right now in New Jersey, well, it has always been
this way in New Jersey because of the high taxes,
(08:00):
because of the high property property taxes especially and the
cost of housing in New Jersey. It's affordability.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
The number one thing I hear about is housing. So
mortgages and rental crises have just gotten too high for people,
which is why I'm committed to building more housing and
driving down those costs.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We've got affordability crisis in New Jersey. You've got a
public safety crisis in New Jersey, public education crisis, over
development issues in our suburban towns. Number one, it's people
are just feeling crushed by the costs right and about everything.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
There are taxes, utility bills, food, childcare.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's Mikey Cheryl who is out in front for the Democrats,
Jack Chitarelli who's out in front for the Republicans. And
the last person was Josh Gottthheimer. But you heard that
political analysty at the top of the show saying it
can be anybody's race at this point. They believe any
one of them can win. As a matter of fact,
let me play that again.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
On the Democratic side, it's really hard to pick out
a front runner at this point. Recent polling has shown
Mikey Cheryl with a slightly perhaps but always within the
margin of error. And so I think if you told
me right now that you are going to wake me
up on Wednesday morning and tell me that any of
the six had won the Democratic nomination, I really wouldn't
be very surprised.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That surprised me. But then I started looking at the numbers,
and he's absolutely right. He is absolutely right that it
really could be anybody's race at this point because the
margins are so low and there's a whole lot of
undecided voters. So that's going to be the most exciting
(09:37):
results tonight. By the way, the polls just opened at
six o'clock, so if you haven't voted you live in
New Jersey, you still have a lot of time because
they're open until eight o'clock tonight. It's going to be fascinating.
We'll talk we'll be talking about it a lot tomorrow.
In the meantime, in Tennessee's something that doesn't happen every day.
(10:00):
People were looking up in the air at something slowly
flying by and saying, is that a zebra? We'll explain next.
Plus tickets to see James Taylor at eight twenty five. Now,
let's get to Rich Lowry, editor in chief of the
National Review, or you a beef? Were you a big
sli in the family stone fan? Rich big familiar with
(10:23):
their work?
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Enjoyable enough, No.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You don't sound like you're a huge fan, though. Enjoyable
enough isn't a raving review. Enjoyable, enjoyable enough, isn't as
somebody you'd go see in concert. You know, let's talk
about what's going on in Los Angeles right now, and
there's so many things to talk about. But I thought
you send people to a fascinating interview, and that's what
(10:49):
started these riots in the first place. What was ICE
doing out there? What were they doing well?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
On last Friday which started this, they were doing some
work site raids, including one at a home depot. I
don't understand why home depots are supposed to be considered
off limits for immigration enforcement, given their well known gathering
places for illegal immigrants. But there's one home depot, and
then some clothing wholesalers and the like where they had
search warrants because they had indications that these places were
(11:20):
employing illegal immigrants with all sorts of fake documentation, which
is very bad. And then on Saturday there are more
targeted raids against illegal immigrants who had been deported and
come back, which is a felony, or had gone through
the entire process and had their orders of final removal
issue by a judge and they hadn't left. So this
(11:41):
clearly is a category that everyone should be in favor of, right,
you know, But instead it pore fuel on the flames.
And the left is just basically opposed to immigration enforcement
as such. And it wasn't peaceful protests, wasn't just exercising
First Amendment rights. It was violent resist stense to federal authority.
(12:02):
And Trump reacted to that appropriately.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And here we are again, and it's seeming just like
the wildfires. I mean, all you can think about is
how bad Mayor Bass was and how bad Gavin Newsom
were on the wildfires, and how they may have caused
those wildfires in the first place, especially Gavin Newsom, or
at least contributed to them. And once again they are
(12:26):
fighting law enforcement, at least they're fighting the National Guard
coming in, and they're fighting Donald Trump on this. You'd
think with the pictures we'd seen and the video we
see every single day, they would want the National Guard
in there to secure the area. They certainly secured that
federal building.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Yeah, so the Guard has a fairly limited role. It
can protect other federal personnel and protect other federal buildings.
So you look at the pictures of the National Garden
what they're doing when they're not a lot of them
out there yet. Two, they're not like cracking heads. They're
just standing in front of the building to keep them
from getting attacked. And you have all these officials saying, oh,
this is such a terrible provocation.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
How could you've.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Done such a thing to us. They're not doing anything.
They're just protecting federal officials and federal property. It's the
cops who are out on the streets, and that the
cops are getting attacked by these protesters. So you think
they'd be, uh, every public official be telling the people
who leave the streets to stop and never do this,
and instead they're they're blaming Trump. No.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's a great point because when you watch all the
National Guard troops standing in front of the federal building,
nobody's bothering them, nobody's taunting them. But when you see
the police, they're shooting fireworks at them, they're throwing rocks
at them. They need help.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, So on the on Saturday night, I was sorry.
Sunday night all runs together. The police chief had press
conference as ass do you need the National Guard? And
you wouldn't say yes, right because you can't say that politically.
But he's like, well, we are overwhelmed and the situation
is out of control. So again it's the National Guard.
They're not marching down the street dealing with these protesters.
(14:09):
But but they they're they're an assistance that. You know,
otherwise a bunch of other people would have to be
standing in front of those buildings, right, a bunch of
La cops, right, So it helps, it helps at that
at that level. But these the left is just insane
on immigration. There's a brief moment after Trump won where
they're like, you know, maybe we should have done more
of the border.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Et cetera.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
But they've they flipped back to total insanity. Everyone should
support people who have orders of removal leaving right, they've
gone through the process, they've had their due process. But
instead even that drives them insane.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and it's no wonder Donald Trump won so easily
and he's winning again. They're they're giving him victory after victory,
just like Kilmar Abrego Garcia. They're still clinging to him.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Yeah, so it's if Trump could script this, he'd have
a bunch of violent protesters resisting Ice and waving flags
from a foreign country. Right, And what are they doing.
They're violently resisting Ice and waving flags from a foreign country,
and Abradio Garcia I thought it was you know, as
soon as they realized they violated an order sending him
(15:19):
to this prison in El Salvador. I don't think you
should have been sent to a prison a Salvador regardless
without a trial. But as soon as they realized this mistake,
they just said, have brought him back. And now they
have brought him back, and they've they've charged him because
he was not just a Maryland father. He wasn't the
father of the year. Apparently he was routinely engaged in
human smuggling. And the facts in the indictment about this
traffic stop in Tennessee that was unearthed, you know, a
(15:42):
month or two ago, are completely damning.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
He said he was picking up construction workers and bringing
back from Saint Louis. The car was never anywhere near
Saint Louis. And none of these guys had luggage, none
of them had any tools or construction equipment so it
was clear what was going on.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Thank you so much, Rich Lowry, editor in chief of
Nagtle Review. I agree with everything you said today, Rich,
Thank you so much. Now let's go to Joe BURRELLI,
Managing director of Chartwell Strategy Group and former Minority leader
of the New York City Council.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Good morning, Joe, top of the morn Larry. Thanks for
having me sure absolutely all the time every week. And listen,
there's two polls out today and both polls show that
on the Democratic primary side in the mayoral election, it
is a two person race. I guess we've known that
for a while. The I guess the big news is
(16:32):
the difference in the two polls. Both have Mom Donnie
and Cuomo going to the eighth round and being the
two men standing. One from a pack that supports Cuomo
has him winning by twelve. The other with a pack
that is run or supports Mom Donnie, has Cuomo winning
(16:52):
by two. Do we read anything into that at all.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's split the different and say he's, you know, winning
by about six or seven points. But the real number
is that both have him going to the eighth round,
meaning this is a neck and neck horse race until
that last minute, and like, you know, there really is
no way of predicting how people are going to vote
in their fourth, fifth, six choices on ranked choice voting.
(17:21):
You know, we only have familiarity with saying who do
you like in a poem? Right, I like Joe Schmo,
I like Mary Jones. But we've never had really a
knowledge of polling eight rounds down the ballot, seven rounds
down the ballot. So I still think it's anyone's race. However,
the change really has been the the Cuomo packs, the
(17:42):
outside money that's supporting Andrew Pomo have shifted a little
bit from support just doing ads supporting Andrew Pomo to
also doing ads attacking Zoha and Mam Donnie. There was
a great ad I just saw on the TV this morning,
you know, just highlighting all the crazy things Mam Donni
wants to do, which is the antithesis of what essentially
(18:02):
Andrew Cuomo is saying, raising taxes, defunding the NYPD, stuff
like that. The problem is a lot of people remember
when Andrew Cuomo had some of these same positions, Right,
this is the guy who raised taxes and raised state
spending over his ten years in office. So much that
New York led the country in out migration. And he
I don't know if you remember, he tried to blame
(18:23):
the weather. He said, the weather is why people are
leaving upstate New York, and it's just not true. The
number one destination for New Yorkers by by percentage was
actually Vermont, of all places, colder than New York, worse
weather than New York. So it's I still think, Larry,
I've been saying it for a couple of weeks now.
I still think it's a closer race with Cuomo in
the lead, But it's closer today than it was last week.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, And it's definitely two people at this point when
it gets past this primary, because almost the primaries don't
really matter as much anymore because both Cuomo and Mamdani
are going to be on other lines as independent so
or as a Working Families party. But so they're all
(19:05):
going to be on this ballot coming on, coming up
a little bit later. And one of the people on
the ballot is the incumbent Mayor Adams, who, more than
anyone else is if you put them all together, he's
polling the least. Does he have any shot whatsoever?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's really gonna depend on the
Democratic primary. I mean, you know, we could say that
they're all on the ballot, and that's true, but the
person who has the pole position is going to be
the person who's running as a Democrat. The enrollment Democrat
the Republican is something like six to one in New
York City. So it's mission critical really for Andrew Cuomo
or Zohran Mondoni to be on the Democratic line. If
(19:45):
Zorn happens to win, you know, it's gonna be tough
for Andrew Cuomo to win. It's gonna be tough for
Eric Adams to win. But at that point, it would
only take a plurality of voters, and it might be
a plurality that doesn't go higher than in the low thirties,
you know, thirty three, thirty four to thirty five percent
could actually win a mayoral race when you have, you
(20:08):
know this many candidates, right, you have you'll have two
major party candidates, whoever they are to be determined, right,
we know, Curtis, we will be on the ballot, but
to be determined on the Democratic side. But then you
have essentially an incumbent mayor, right, mayor Adams and you
have an incumbent governor with such high name recognition. This
is a dynamic we just have never seen in politics
(20:30):
in New York in modern history. It's always been sort
of whoever the Democrats came out of the Democratic primary
versus whoever the Republicans had, and if the city was
bad enough, if the city was you know, decaying enough,
the Republican had a shot. We had that with Mayor
Giuliani when the city was really twenty three twenty four
hundred murders a year. And we had it with Michael
(20:50):
Bloomberg after nine to eleven when people really wanted a
stability and restoration of the city coming out of that
horrible Attech. I just, you know, if we didn't flip
to Republican under build a Blosio. It's tough to see it,
but we never had this dynamic. If Nicole Melly attacks
who ran in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, rather, if she
(21:13):
ran in a race where she had the chance to
have a plurality of votes and win, if she only
needed thirty five percent, thirty six percent, thirty seven percent
of win, she could very well be on her second
term as maya right now.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, I see that. I mean, this is something Curtis
Lee has been talking about for well over a month now,
that this gives him an opportunity. But as you're saying,
it probably gives any Republican with any type of credibility possibility,
because what do you think they would need to get
thirty three percent?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I think a Republican needs to get thirty four percent,
thirty five percent, those are possibilities. I think if a
Republican gets thirty nine percent forty percent, they probably win.
So Curtis's challenge is trying to convince people that he
is not the showman that he was. I mean, this
is a guy who's been in your industry, right, He's
been on the radio, he's been on the on the
on the talking head circuit kind of you know, he's
(22:06):
been sort of the avant garde of challenging authority in
New York City, you know, with the Guardian Angels going
back forty years. But can ken voters see him as
someone who is capable of leading the city. That's what
if I was advising Curtis Lee, what I would advise
him to do, And I think he's taking my advice
because you know, he's he's coming through events. I've seen
(22:28):
him events. He's coming to events, you know, wearing suit
and ties and trying to look the part of the
mayor who can also be a competent manager. On the issues.
When you pull the issues, he is right on most
of the issues, and neither are issues that range from
eighty twenty issues in his favor to you know, fifty
five to forty five in his face.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's a great point. It's a great point. I
think he has a real shot. Joe Burrelli, Managing director
of Chartwell Strategy Group and former Minority leader of the
New York City Council
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