Larry Mendte goes over the biggest news stories of the day including Eric Adams officially announcing his run for Mayor as an independent, Congress having a deadline the get the ‘Big, Beautiful, Bill’ on Donald Trumps desk, and a briefing on the attacks on the Iran nuclear program given to Congress. Dov Hikind talks about Zohran Mamdani’s Mayoral run as well as why it is so important to defeat him. Kevin Cirilli talks with Larry about the retaliation by Iran in the form of cyber attacks on US websites.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm so glad you could be here this morning. I'm
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always glad when you choose to join us in the morning,
because you have many choices to make, and I'm so
glad you choose us in the Big three. Today it
is official Mayor Adams is running for reelection as an independent,
and he came out swinging against socialists or in Mam Donnie.
Do you think he's an anti semi Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I think some of the comments of you know, you
look at some of his rap lyrics where he's talked about,
you know, his embracing of Hamas, that says a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's gonna be some type of fight ahead. A poll
is out by the way showing that if it was
just Cuomo and Sliwa and Mom Donni, that Mam Donni wins.
But if Cuomo gets in the race, that's a different story.
Then they're tied. We have w o r's Rob Astorino
at seven oh five to talk about this and Scott
(00:55):
Jennings from CNN at nine oh five, who wants to
talk about the race. It looks like Congress will be
in session, possibly right up to the fourth of July,
as President Trump has set a deadline to get the
big beautiful bill on his desk by the birthday of
our Nation. Speaker Johnson is still waiting for the bill
(01:16):
to come back from the Senate.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
They should keep as close as possible to the House
product because it took us, as you all know, a
long time to negotiate the very specific provisions of that
So the more they deviate from it, the more difficult
the job it comes to get the bill to the
President's desk, and we're trying to do that quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Members of Congress got a briefing from the White House
on the bombing attack on the Iranian nuclear program, and
it showed, as Donald Trump said, an obliteration.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Obliterated is a good word for me to use. I
can tell people in South Carolina nobody is going to
work in these three sites anytime soon. They're not going
to get into them anytime soon. Their operational capability was obliterated.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And the p did he trial. The jury will finally
get the case as closing arguments and instructions are wrapping up.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I think the question will be that even if the
jurors have some uncertainty about whether the prosecution has proved racketeering,
that the Juras will find Combs to be repugnant and
they're going to want to hold him accountable.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And the lifeguard in New Jersey and Asbury Park is
in the hospital and she is doing just fine after
a freak accident.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
I was very lucky where it hit me because it
missed every major blood vessel and nerve. It just went
through my muscle.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And a legendary journalist has died.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
At any given moment, life does not seem to have
a purpose. But when you look back, he says, if
there were was a wind that your back all the time,
or there are hands on your back pushing you forward,
and that happened to me. One door open and I
went through it, and another door opened.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Bill Moyers was Lyndon Johnson's press secretary and then he
worked at CBS, NBC and PBS where he had his
own show and did a weekly commentary. He is dead
at the age of ninety one. Now let's talk about
the Mayroe election. And as we said a moment ago,
Mayor Adams did come out exciting. You forget what an
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exciting and good campaigner the mayor is.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
I'm so proud to be here to say to the
people of the City of New York.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I am sinking red.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
Lex it to be your mayor of the City York.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And what's interesting is it was a long and exciting speech.
And by the way, there was all these Mom Donnie
protesters in a park across the street and he took
them on and just destroyed them. He was really good yesterday,
and he had a huge crowd behind him that was excited. Yeah,
this is gonna be an exciting race. And I think
you don't count Eric Adams out. We have to wait
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to see if Cuomo gets involved, but you shouldn't count
Eric Adams out right now because he is going to
be able to garner support, especially in the black community.
But he had an interesting take which I hadn't heard
Cuomo say. Well, Clomo just seemed to think that it
was going to be handed to him. He wasn't really
campaigning that well. But Adams will be. Adams was everywhere yesterday.
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He was on several TV stations, he was on podcast.
He had this major announcement he will be able to
match the energy of the Mom Donnie campaign. But he
said something interesting about I don't know if you've heard
Mom Donnie constantly say that we have to give the
middle class and the poor and the working class a dignity,
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a life of dignity. That that's why we have to
give him lots of free things. That's why we have
to text the rich and give them the money, because
we have to give them a life of dignity.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
There's no dignity is someone giving you everything for free
dignity and giving you a job so you could provide
for your family and the opportunities that you deserve.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So this is not a city of handouts.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
This is a city of hands up.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We're gonna lift up.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
The city of New York.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
And so I'm asking you New york Is to continue
to stand with me as we moved this city in
the right direction. I'm ready to be your mayor again
for another.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
For you pretty good, huh. I mean, I mean a
lot more excitement than Andrew Cuomo, who you know constantly
was and then he was really and then he had
that weird way of talking. I mean, he never he
never brought excitement to his race. There was never a
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time when you went, wow, look at Andrew Cuomo, look
a look at him campaigning. He's a great campaigner. Never,
not once, not once and a lot of people thought
his heart wasn't in it. So we're gonna have to see.
He hasn't made the decision and yet whether he's going
to enter the race for the general election. In the meantime,
Donald Trump also got involved in the race.
Speaker 10 (06:07):
President Trump just waited and called you a communist lunatic.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
What do you say to that?
Speaker 11 (06:14):
You know this is not the first time that President
Trump is going to comment on myself.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The next mayor of New York City will have to
work with the Trump administration.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Are you willing to do that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Will you do that?
Speaker 11 (06:24):
I will work with the Trump administration when it is
to the benefit of New Yorkers.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So that's a no. Because he all of a sudden
is bringing up Trump, and he all of a sudden
wants to distance himself from Trump. He didn't do it.
The entire campaign against Guaembo, a tire campaign against Guemo.
He wasn't talking about Trump. Now he's talking about Trump
because he wants to tie Adams to Trump and make
that the difference between the two. Because he has no experience.
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He's never done anything. He's been an assemblyman and a
rapper and living off his mom's money. She's paying for
this campaign, along with you know, the millions he says,
that are contributing. They're paying for the campaign. So he's
had a privileged life. He's had a life of dignity,
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as he says, but he's had a life where he's
never really had to work. He didn't pass one bill
one bill in the Assembly. He was thinking about running
for office that the entire time he was in the Assembly.
The people who he represented must be or should be upset.
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And Rachel Scott, who was the reporter you just heard
a second ago for ABC, she also asked, mom, Donnie
the question that everybody has. So you're gonna give away
all this free stuff. You're not going to raise rents,
which is going to kill these small business owners and
the small homeowners that rent them out and small apartment
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owners that rent them out, to kill them. But he's
also going to get free buses, he's going to get
free childcare, free everything, free everything, and then he's going
to tax the rich. And so Rachel Scott has the
question on everyone's mind. Your critics say you ran on
these promises that a mayor doesn't have the authority to
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deliver on free buses, raising taxes, what's your strategy for
accomplishing all that?
Speaker 11 (08:24):
Building the movement that brought us to this pointing. Ultimately,
it's a sign of a different kind of politics. And
I'm already hearing from colleagues in the state legislature their
excitement on delivering back to working people.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm sure they're excited because you know, they have to
run too. And I'm sure they're excited because they want
to go back to their districts and say, hey, I
rose your taxes so we could give all the money
to New York. Yeah. Well you're in Buffalo and you're
in the Assembly. That's going to go over really well.
It is fantasy. Everything he says is fantasy. And you
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know who puts the final dagger in the fantasy, Kathy Hokeel.
I have said that I will not raise income taxes
on the people of our state. So is Andrew Cuomo
going to get in the race?
Speaker 10 (09:10):
Yes, I'm worried about the city, and I'm worried about
the trajectory and who the next mayor is matters, and
that is my number one concern. It's about New York
City and the best interest of New York City and
how do I best help New York City, And that's
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what this is all about from day one.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So he's going to decide really soon. But man, is
he boring? It's just I didn't I forgot that he
was that boring? Was he always know? He wasn't always
that boring? What he was a little bit young? I
guess does he really want to be mayor? I mean
that's the question. A lot of people were saying he
wants to run for mayor as a stepping stone to
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run for something else, and that something else may be president.
But if that's how he's gonna run, you might as
well retire, go back to your mansion in Westchester County
and just live off the book money. Wow, it's going
to be an interesting race, though, it's going to be
the best New York mayors race in decades. Hey, we
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got great news. The lifeguard who was impaled by a
beach umbrella in a freak accident in Asbury Park is
out of surgery and talking here from her next Well,
I'm very excited to have our next guest on Dove
Hiken as a former member of the New York Assembly,
he was there for over three decades. He is founder
of Americans against anti Semitism. And I saw him the
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other day on Fox News. I believe it was Fox News.
May he can correct me if I'm wrong. And he
was great in talking about zorin Mom Donnie. So I'm
so glad, Dove that you said yes when we asked
you to come on. Thank you, sir, it's.
Speaker 9 (10:54):
My pleasure to be with you. This is an important moment,
not just for New York, but as you pointed out,
the country the nation is watching what happens in New
York and one thing we must defeat Momdanti. There is
no question about it. We need to take him very seriously.
He's smart. In fact, he's more than smart. You know.
(11:17):
Just yesterday he talked about additional funds to fight anti Semitism. Well,
the best way to fight anti Semitism is to have
him disappear.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That's true. I want to play something for you. Eric
Adams announced yesterday that he was officially running, and then
he was everywhere, including the Don Lemon podcast. And here's
what I wanted to play for you. Do you think
he's an anti semi Yes, I do. I think some
of the comments, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You look at some of his rap lyrics where he's
talked about, you know, his embracement of Hamas.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That says a lot. So if his rap lyrics embrace
Hamas and he's been an anti Semite, they were talking
about being an anti Semite now for over a decade.
That goes way back. But can Eric Adams beat him?
Speaker 11 (12:04):
Who?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Who is who can take him on? Right now?
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Well, I, first of all, I would urge everyone to
take a step back. And I know this is very serious,
but we need to all watch carefully what happens. I
would say by September first, you know, just about Labor Day.
I'm you know, I am supporting Curtis Sliwa, but I
think all of us need to look and say, okay,
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what on Labor Day? What's the story? Look, Culomo's running.
I wish there was only one single candidate of the
three that are running right now. I know there are
a bunch of others, but the three main candidates. We
need one. But that's not happening. Cloma is running, Adams
is running, and of course Curtis. So wait, let's wait
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to Labor Day. Labor Day, we see what the situation is.
Everybody has a chance to work for two months let's
see what you can do. Look at the polls. We'll
watch the polls. The end of the day. Everyone has
to get off their high horse and say we need
to do what's best for the people of the City
of New York, all people in the City of New
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York and support one single person. So I'm hoping that
will happen. I'm not a great fan former governor. I'm
not crazy about Adams. Okay, you know, the last four
years as mayor, I'm not quite sure what he did. Okay,
he established a task force to fight anti Semitism.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, when when was that?
Speaker 9 (13:38):
That's the last four years? Two freaking weeks ago. Where
have you been? Like, why didn't you do it a
year ago? Three years ago? The numbers were sky rocketing, right, Okay,
So I'm ready to support him, Cuomo, you name it.
I'll be on the same page. Let's give everyone a chance.
You are absolutely correct, Larry, He Donnie can be beaten.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh I think he can too. I think he can too.
I'm more worried about the vote being split between everyone else.
But I also think the more that comes out about him,
the more he's going to start to slide a little bit.
In the polls. I do think he's an absolute danger
to the society. But I'll tell you something, and I
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found this out personally because you may have heard I
posted something on social media and I was attacked by
the Mom Donnie people. I mean, they are legion on
social media and they are energized and they're excited. We
need that same energy, even if it's anti Mom Donnie.
We need that same energy on the other side. And
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I'm not sure it's there right now.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
You're absolutely correct, it's not there. So that's why I'm saying,
let's give credit to the other side. We talking so
much and we need to support this one. That one.
First of all, let's make sure that your neighbor, your friends,
your family, that every single person is registered to vote
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in November. If you own a home in New York,
if Mamdannie gets elected, the day after, your house is
going to be worth twenty percent less. You won't even
be able to sell you your house if you want
to get out of New York. He Mamdannie is a
catastrophe for New York, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Let's talk about someone out there. Let's talk about something
really important right here, because I think we at this
point can't be be labored enough. He's promising all these
things for free, and he says he's going to raise
the income tax on the ridge and raise the corporate
tax that has to come out of the state, and
then they have to agree to send money to New
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York City. You've been in the Assembly. You're the best
person to ask on this. You've been in the Assembly
for thirty six years. Can that happen?
Speaker 9 (15:59):
I would hope not. But the Assembly and State Senate
that exists in twenty twenty five is it's quite different
from the one I left a couple of years ago.
It is very much to the left, a lot of
radicals there. You know, nothing is impossible. It's a different
world up in Albany. When I left Albany, the Republicans
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control the State Senate and they made sure that all
the crazy stuff that the Assembly was doing and passing
never got anywhere because they stopped it. So let's not
the best thing we can do is to make sure
Mamdani is not the mayor of New York. And we
can do it if we're smart, If every single person,
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instead of just talking and getting excited, do something concrete,
like make sure everybody's resistered to vote. Make sure let's
work continuously. We have to make sure people come out
to vote in November. I mean that the numbers will
be dramatic. We need seventy percent and eighty percent of
the people coming out to vote. The people come out
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to vote, the people well, people in New York. Mamdani
will lose and it will not be close. So there's
a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, that's really hoping. That's really well said. It is
really well said because because he has an energized base
and the other people have to be just as energized.
And you're right, it is not out there right now.
I think it's really fascinating. And you were great to
talk to right now because you switch parties, so you
saw this coming a while ago. Tell people why you
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switch parties.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
Well, I switched parties because I saw the Democratic Party
not being the party of my parents, of every one
of my family in the past. It is a radicalized party.
I mean, look right now, you with people like Jerry Nagler,
a Jew, a guy who went to Yeshiva by the Way,
parochial school, who endorsed ma'm donnie. For God's sake, us
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people like Schumer, the protector of the Jewish people. That's
what he says all of his life. He protected the
Jewish people, an absolute fraud. He sending beautiful messages to
ma'm donnie congratulating him. So the enemy is also within.
But you know what, Larry, it's okay. We're gonna do fine.
We're going to win if we're united on some level
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and create that enthusiasm. You know what, I you know what,
I think the best example I can give Dinkin's Juliani
in the nineteen nineties when New York was in trouble,
people were afraid of, you know, whether there was a
future in New York, and people came out to vote.
I remember I sub I was a you know, a Democrat.
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I supported Juliani. And if people were coming out the
post closed at nine o'clock, there were still lines around
the lot apart.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, that's what we need right now. Dove, you've been
great and that's all great advice. I hope we can
do that. Come back, let's talk about it again. Dove Hiken,
former member of the New York Assembly, founder of Americans
Against Anti Semitism, and now for a Futurist reporter and
founder of Meet the Future website Kevin Siilli. You know,
(19:15):
I was just thinking a moment ago as I was
as I was going to introduce you and thinking about
you coming up. Are you the only futurist reporter in
the country is or do you have competition?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
No, that's what they tell me, Larry. So hopefully in
the future it stays clear.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Did you predict that you can always make something up?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I'm not an astrologist, but I'll maybe I'll get my
tarot cards right.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
But if worse comes to worst, I mean, since nobody
knows the future, you can just go ahead and make
something up if you want to.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Well, you know, the good thing about the future is
that there's always a future, so there's always coming out next.
So you know, tough to lay off journalists when you're
covering what's happening from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, thank god for that. But let's start with something
that may be happening now. And I was surprised to
see this. There may already be an Iranian cyber attack
on the US.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, so you know, in the hours really that followed
the US attack against the nuclear sites facility sites in Iran,
these activists, these hackers behind keyboards. They're really just showing
brute force. And what do I mean by that. They're
doing what's known in the intelligence community as DDoS attacks
denial of services attacks. All that means, Larry, is that
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they're clogging the system, jamming the servers, taking popular websites
offline for a couple of hours. Now, some Iranian hackers
took credit and it's already back online, so this is
not some widespread outage, but they took credit for actually
clogging the truth social President Trump's platform social media platform
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following the Iranian nuclear facility attacks. But that said, you know,
I'm based in Washington, d C. Larry, and what concerns
the intelligence community, the military community is that Lord forbid,
there would ever be a cyber nine to eleven that
has not happened. And the United States is the best innovation,
the best technology in the world. But that said, these
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d DOS attacks are showing to the architects of these
tech platforms that these hackers have the ability to penetrate.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Wait a second, back up for a second. What is
a d DOS attack?
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Yes, it's a denial of service attack, and all that
is it just overwhelms a server and floods it with
fake traffic, so it clogs the you know, to use
a telephone analogy, it clogs the phone lines and it
makes it harder for anyone to access the line. And
so it's not high tech. It's just brute force. But
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it can knock major systems offline if the defenses are weak.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So what you're saying, it's like Ticketmaster when Taylor Swift
tickets go on sale.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
I am not calling Taylor Swift a cyber terrorist at all.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right, but that's like, that's what it does to the
website track.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I see the analogy, and I like, and you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay. Natalie has always suspected Taylor Swift as being an agent.
She says this all the time, that she thinks that
she might be an agent. Uh, let's but it is
really the B team of hackers, isn't it. This isn't
China getting into the national defense. This is just a
whole lot of hackers flooding the system. So it's a
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It's a minor attack, isn't it compared annoying protesters?
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Right to be honest with you, and so but I
think you know it. You know, I remember when I
was a kid. My teachers would say the United States
is protected because of the oceans. But I think as
a culture, as a society, we need to be thinking
of protecting the digital domain, that the digital frontier as
if it's a piece of land. Because as we continue
to advance with technology, we rely on artificial intelligence, we
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rely on driverless cars. In the future, a cyber attack
can jump from URL to IRL. So the bottom line
is that we want to make sure that our defense
capabilities keeps pace with our ability to implement innovations like AI.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, for sure, that's a little scary.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Yeah, and listen, and I'm not you know, you know this.
I'm an optimist when it comes to technology, and I'd
rather live in a world with this technology than without it.
And this artificial intelligence, by the way, United States invented
that we are able to and we have the best
cyber capabilities in the world, but that we are able
to defend it as well, and especially with AI, when
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you look at the energy grids for example, and how
much energy it takes to use AI, We're going to
have to make sure that our energy grid structures are
protected as well. Something that I'm really interested in is
quantum computing, which is going to come after artificial intelligence,
depending on which tech company you ask, we're either about
five years out or fifteen years out from quantum computing,
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which is, like I would argue, going to be bigger
than the next Internet, and that actually could pose significant
risk to encryption. And people when they hear encryption they
think of crypto, and yes, that's correct, but encryption is
how we secure everything. And so if you're wondering what
the government's really up to on the tech front, they
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actually just had a huge hacking thing where they sent
in the math nerds. Larry and the math nerds had
to come up with ways to defend the digital frontier
and encryption from quantum because quantum is arguably could be
an encryption killer.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Let's back up for a second and talk again about
the B list hackers from Iran. They got into truth Social.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Yeah, just well not his account, but the platform itself,
and so they were able to just again cloud the
system take it down. There's been some concern typically when
when there's some type of military force that they go
after banking institutions, they go after energy grids, as you mentioned,
but it begs the question from a diplomatic sense. What
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is the cyber red line? You know, so awesome. When
we talk about modern warfare, we talk or even just warfare,
we talk about there's a red line. If this country
does this, this country will do that. And you know,
President Trump and was praised by the Israelis for holding
that red line as it relates to last week's attack
against the nuclear facilities. But on the cyber front, the
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rules of the road are much more gray. And so
you know, obviously, if they took out hospital digital systems,
that would warrant a response. But when there's just these
denial of services against private sector companies, what actually is
the red line? And are our businesses protecting themselves against it?
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And so you get into a lot of complicated issues
very fast, about reputational risks for shareholders and whatnot. But
it is the future of warfare.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Thanks so much, Kevin Surreally, futurist reporter and founder of
the Meet the Future website. Next time we talk to you,
we'll talk about life on Mars and the fact that
Natalie's little saus as the kids say, when it comes
to tailor swift yours, you know what I can see
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that
I'm so glad you could be here this morning. I'm
(00:03):
always glad when you choose to join us in the morning,
because you have many choices to make, and I'm so
glad you choose us in the Big three. Today it
is official Mayor Adams is running for reelection as an independent,
and he came out swinging against socialists or in Mam Donnie.
Do you think he's an anti semi Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I think some of the comments of you know, you
look at some of his rap lyrics where he's talked about,
you know, his embracing of Hamas, that says a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's gonna be some type of fight ahead. A poll
is out by the way showing that if it was
just Cuomo and Sliwa and Mom Donni, that Mam Donni wins.
But if Cuomo gets in the race, that's a different story.
Then they're tied. We have w o r's Rob Astorino
at seven oh five to talk about this and Scott
(00:55):
Jennings from CNN at nine oh five, who wants to
talk about the race. It looks like Congress will be
in session, possibly right up to the fourth of July,
as President Trump has set a deadline to get the
big beautiful bill on his desk by the birthday of
our Nation. Speaker Johnson is still waiting for the bill
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to come back from the Senate.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
They should keep as close as possible to the House
product because it took us, as you all know, a
long time to negotiate the very specific provisions of that
So the more they deviate from it, the more difficult
the job it comes to get the bill to the
President's desk, and we're trying to do that quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Members of Congress got a briefing from the White House
on the bombing attack on the Iranian nuclear program, and
it showed, as Donald Trump said, an obliteration.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Obliterated is a good word for me to use. I
can tell people in South Carolina nobody is going to
work in these three sites anytime soon. They're not going
to get into them anytime soon. Their operational capability was obliterated.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And the p did he trial. The jury will finally
get the case as closing arguments and instructions are wrapping up.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I think the question will be that even if the
jurors have some uncertainty about whether the prosecution has proved racketeering,
that the Juras will find Combs to be repugnant and
they're going to want to hold him accountable.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And the lifeguard in New Jersey and Asbury Park is
in the hospital and she is doing just fine after
a freak accident.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
I was very lucky where it hit me because it
missed every major blood vessel and nerve. It just went
through my muscle.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And a legendary journalist has died.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
At any given moment, life does not seem to have
a purpose. But when you look back, he says, if
there were was a wind that your back all the time,
or there are hands on your back pushing you forward,
and that happened to me. One door open and I
went through it, and another door opened.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Bill Moyers was Lyndon Johnson's press secretary and then he
worked at CBS, NBC and PBS where he had his
own show and did a weekly commentary. He is dead
at the age of ninety one. Now let's talk about
the Mayroe election. And as we said a moment ago,
Mayor Adams did come out exciting. You forget what an
(03:26):
exciting and good campaigner the mayor is.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
I'm so proud to be here to say to the
people of the City of New York.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I am sinking red.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
Lex it to be your mayor of the City York.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And what's interesting is it was a long and exciting speech.
And by the way, there was all these Mom Donnie
protesters in a park across the street and he took
them on and just destroyed them. He was really good yesterday,
and he had a huge crowd behind him that was excited. Yeah,
this is gonna be an exciting race. And I think
you don't count Eric Adams out. We have to wait
(04:03):
to see if Cuomo gets involved, but you shouldn't count
Eric Adams out right now because he is going to
be able to garner support, especially in the black community.
But he had an interesting take which I hadn't heard
Cuomo say. Well, Clomo just seemed to think that it
was going to be handed to him. He wasn't really
campaigning that well. But Adams will be. Adams was everywhere yesterday.
(04:23):
He was on several TV stations, he was on podcast.
He had this major announcement he will be able to
match the energy of the Mom Donnie campaign. But he
said something interesting about I don't know if you've heard
Mom Donnie constantly say that we have to give the
middle class and the poor and the working class a dignity,
(04:45):
a life of dignity. That that's why we have to
give him lots of free things. That's why we have
to text the rich and give them the money, because
we have to give them a life of dignity.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
There's no dignity is someone giving you everything for free
dignity and giving you a job so you could provide
for your family and the opportunities that you deserve.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So this is not a city of handouts.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
This is a city of hands up.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We're gonna lift up.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
The city of New York.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
And so I'm asking you New york Is to continue
to stand with me as we moved this city in
the right direction. I'm ready to be your mayor again
for another.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
For you pretty good, huh. I mean, I mean a
lot more excitement than Andrew Cuomo, who you know constantly
was and then he was really and then he had
that weird way of talking. I mean, he never he
never brought excitement to his race. There was never a
(05:45):
time when you went, wow, look at Andrew Cuomo, look
a look at him campaigning. He's a great campaigner. Never,
not once, not once and a lot of people thought
his heart wasn't in it. So we're gonna have to see.
He hasn't made the decision and yet whether he's going
to enter the race for the general election. In the meantime,
Donald Trump also got involved in the race.
Speaker 10 (06:07):
President Trump just waited and called you a communist lunatic.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
What do you say to that?
Speaker 11 (06:14):
You know this is not the first time that President
Trump is going to comment on myself.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The next mayor of New York City will have to
work with the Trump administration.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Are you willing to do that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Will you do that?
Speaker 11 (06:24):
I will work with the Trump administration when it is
to the benefit of New Yorkers.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So that's a no. Because he all of a sudden
is bringing up Trump, and he all of a sudden
wants to distance himself from Trump. He didn't do it.
The entire campaign against Guaembo, a tire campaign against Guemo.
He wasn't talking about Trump. Now he's talking about Trump
because he wants to tie Adams to Trump and make
that the difference between the two. Because he has no experience.
(06:52):
He's never done anything. He's been an assemblyman and a
rapper and living off his mom's money. She's paying for
this campaign, along with you know, the millions he says,
that are contributing. They're paying for the campaign. So he's
had a privileged life. He's had a life of dignity,
(07:13):
as he says, but he's had a life where he's
never really had to work. He didn't pass one bill
one bill in the Assembly. He was thinking about running
for office that the entire time he was in the Assembly.
The people who he represented must be or should be upset.
(07:36):
And Rachel Scott, who was the reporter you just heard
a second ago for ABC, she also asked, mom, Donnie
the question that everybody has. So you're gonna give away
all this free stuff. You're not going to raise rents,
which is going to kill these small business owners and
the small homeowners that rent them out and small apartment
(07:58):
owners that rent them out, to kill them. But he's
also going to get free buses, he's going to get
free childcare, free everything, free everything, and then he's going
to tax the rich. And so Rachel Scott has the
question on everyone's mind. Your critics say you ran on
these promises that a mayor doesn't have the authority to
(08:19):
deliver on free buses, raising taxes, what's your strategy for
accomplishing all that?
Speaker 11 (08:24):
Building the movement that brought us to this pointing. Ultimately,
it's a sign of a different kind of politics. And
I'm already hearing from colleagues in the state legislature their
excitement on delivering back to working people.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm sure they're excited because you know, they have to
run too. And I'm sure they're excited because they want
to go back to their districts and say, hey, I
rose your taxes so we could give all the money
to New York. Yeah. Well you're in Buffalo and you're
in the Assembly. That's going to go over really well.
It is fantasy. Everything he says is fantasy. And you
(08:58):
know who puts the final dagger in the fantasy, Kathy Hokeel.
I have said that I will not raise income taxes
on the people of our state. So is Andrew Cuomo
going to get in the race?
Speaker 10 (09:10):
Yes, I'm worried about the city, and I'm worried about
the trajectory and who the next mayor is matters, and
that is my number one concern. It's about New York
City and the best interest of New York City and
how do I best help New York City, And that's
(09:33):
what this is all about from day one.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So he's going to decide really soon. But man, is
he boring? It's just I didn't I forgot that he
was that boring? Was he always know? He wasn't always
that boring? What he was a little bit young? I
guess does he really want to be mayor? I mean
that's the question. A lot of people were saying he
wants to run for mayor as a stepping stone to
(09:56):
run for something else, and that something else may be president.
But if that's how he's gonna run, you might as
well retire, go back to your mansion in Westchester County
and just live off the book money. Wow, it's going
to be an interesting race, though, it's going to be
the best New York mayors race in decades. Hey, we
(10:19):
got great news. The lifeguard who was impaled by a
beach umbrella in a freak accident in Asbury Park is
out of surgery and talking here from her next Well,
I'm very excited to have our next guest on Dove
Hiken as a former member of the New York Assembly,
he was there for over three decades. He is founder
of Americans against anti Semitism. And I saw him the
(10:40):
other day on Fox News. I believe it was Fox News.
May he can correct me if I'm wrong. And he
was great in talking about zorin Mom Donnie. So I'm
so glad, Dove that you said yes when we asked
you to come on. Thank you, sir, it's.
Speaker 9 (10:54):
My pleasure to be with you. This is an important moment,
not just for New York, but as you pointed out,
the country the nation is watching what happens in New
York and one thing we must defeat Momdanti. There is
no question about it. We need to take him very seriously.
He's smart. In fact, he's more than smart. You know.
(11:17):
Just yesterday he talked about additional funds to fight anti Semitism. Well,
the best way to fight anti Semitism is to have
him disappear.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That's true. I want to play something for you. Eric
Adams announced yesterday that he was officially running, and then
he was everywhere, including the Don Lemon podcast. And here's
what I wanted to play for you. Do you think
he's an anti semi Yes, I do. I think some
of the comments, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You look at some of his rap lyrics where he's
talked about, you know, his embracement of Hamas.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That says a lot. So if his rap lyrics embrace
Hamas and he's been an anti Semite, they were talking
about being an anti Semite now for over a decade.
That goes way back. But can Eric Adams beat him?
Speaker 11 (12:04):
Who?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Who is who can take him on? Right now?
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Well, I, first of all, I would urge everyone to
take a step back. And I know this is very serious,
but we need to all watch carefully what happens. I
would say by September first, you know, just about Labor Day.
I'm you know, I am supporting Curtis Sliwa, but I
think all of us need to look and say, okay,
(12:29):
what on Labor Day? What's the story? Look, Culomo's running.
I wish there was only one single candidate of the
three that are running right now. I know there are
a bunch of others, but the three main candidates. We
need one. But that's not happening. Cloma is running, Adams
is running, and of course Curtis. So wait, let's wait
(12:50):
to Labor Day. Labor Day, we see what the situation is.
Everybody has a chance to work for two months let's
see what you can do. Look at the polls. We'll
watch the polls. The end of the day. Everyone has
to get off their high horse and say we need
to do what's best for the people of the City
of New York, all people in the City of New
(13:13):
York and support one single person. So I'm hoping that
will happen. I'm not a great fan former governor. I'm
not crazy about Adams. Okay, you know, the last four
years as mayor, I'm not quite sure what he did. Okay,
he established a task force to fight anti Semitism.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, when when was that?
Speaker 9 (13:38):
That's the last four years? Two freaking weeks ago. Where
have you been? Like, why didn't you do it a
year ago? Three years ago? The numbers were sky rocketing, right, Okay,
So I'm ready to support him, Cuomo, you name it.
I'll be on the same page. Let's give everyone a chance.
You are absolutely correct, Larry, He Donnie can be beaten.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh I think he can too. I think he can too.
I'm more worried about the vote being split between everyone else.
But I also think the more that comes out about him,
the more he's going to start to slide a little bit.
In the polls. I do think he's an absolute danger
to the society. But I'll tell you something, and I
(14:22):
found this out personally because you may have heard I
posted something on social media and I was attacked by
the Mom Donnie people. I mean, they are legion on
social media and they are energized and they're excited. We
need that same energy, even if it's anti Mom Donnie.
We need that same energy on the other side. And
(14:43):
I'm not sure it's there right now.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
You're absolutely correct, it's not there. So that's why I'm saying,
let's give credit to the other side. We talking so
much and we need to support this one. That one.
First of all, let's make sure that your neighbor, your friends,
your family, that every single person is registered to vote
(15:09):
in November. If you own a home in New York,
if Mamdannie gets elected, the day after, your house is
going to be worth twenty percent less. You won't even
be able to sell you your house if you want
to get out of New York. He Mamdannie is a
catastrophe for New York, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Let's talk about someone out there. Let's talk about something
really important right here, because I think we at this
point can't be be labored enough. He's promising all these
things for free, and he says he's going to raise
the income tax on the ridge and raise the corporate
tax that has to come out of the state, and
then they have to agree to send money to New
(15:49):
York City. You've been in the Assembly. You're the best
person to ask on this. You've been in the Assembly
for thirty six years. Can that happen?
Speaker 9 (15:59):
I would hope not. But the Assembly and State Senate
that exists in twenty twenty five is it's quite different
from the one I left a couple of years ago.
It is very much to the left, a lot of
radicals there. You know, nothing is impossible. It's a different
world up in Albany. When I left Albany, the Republicans
(16:20):
control the State Senate and they made sure that all
the crazy stuff that the Assembly was doing and passing
never got anywhere because they stopped it. So let's not
the best thing we can do is to make sure
Mamdani is not the mayor of New York. And we
can do it if we're smart, If every single person,
(16:43):
instead of just talking and getting excited, do something concrete,
like make sure everybody's resistered to vote. Make sure let's
work continuously. We have to make sure people come out
to vote in November. I mean that the numbers will
be dramatic. We need seventy percent and eighty percent of
the people coming out to vote. The people come out
(17:04):
to vote, the people well, people in New York. Mamdani
will lose and it will not be close. So there's
a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, that's really hoping. That's really well said. It is
really well said because because he has an energized base
and the other people have to be just as energized.
And you're right, it is not out there right now.
I think it's really fascinating. And you were great to
talk to right now because you switch parties, so you
saw this coming a while ago. Tell people why you
(17:36):
switch parties.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
Well, I switched parties because I saw the Democratic Party
not being the party of my parents, of every one
of my family in the past. It is a radicalized party.
I mean, look right now, you with people like Jerry Nagler,
a Jew, a guy who went to Yeshiva by the Way,
parochial school, who endorsed ma'm donnie. For God's sake, us
(18:02):
people like Schumer, the protector of the Jewish people. That's
what he says all of his life. He protected the
Jewish people, an absolute fraud. He sending beautiful messages to
ma'm donnie congratulating him. So the enemy is also within.
But you know what, Larry, it's okay. We're gonna do fine.
We're going to win if we're united on some level
(18:25):
and create that enthusiasm. You know what, I you know what,
I think the best example I can give Dinkin's Juliani
in the nineteen nineties when New York was in trouble,
people were afraid of, you know, whether there was a
future in New York, and people came out to vote.
I remember I sub I was a you know, a Democrat.
(18:45):
I supported Juliani. And if people were coming out the
post closed at nine o'clock, there were still lines around
the lot apart.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, that's what we need right now. Dove, you've been
great and that's all great advice. I hope we can
do that. Come back, let's talk about it again. Dove Hiken,
former member of the New York Assembly, founder of Americans
Against Anti Semitism, and now for a Futurist reporter and
founder of Meet the Future website Kevin Siilli. You know,
(19:15):
I was just thinking a moment ago as I was
as I was going to introduce you and thinking about
you coming up. Are you the only futurist reporter in
the country is or do you have competition?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
No, that's what they tell me, Larry. So hopefully in
the future it stays clear.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Did you predict that you can always make something up?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I'm not an astrologist, but I'll maybe I'll get my
tarot cards right.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
But if worse comes to worst, I mean, since nobody
knows the future, you can just go ahead and make
something up if you want to.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Well, you know, the good thing about the future is
that there's always a future, so there's always coming out next.
So you know, tough to lay off journalists when you're
covering what's happening from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, thank god for that. But let's start with something
that may be happening now. And I was surprised to
see this. There may already be an Iranian cyber attack
on the US.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, so you know, in the hours really that followed
the US attack against the nuclear sites facility sites in Iran,
these activists, these hackers behind keyboards. They're really just showing
brute force. And what do I mean by that. They're
doing what's known in the intelligence community as DDoS attacks
denial of services attacks. All that means, Larry, is that
(20:36):
they're clogging the system, jamming the servers, taking popular websites
offline for a couple of hours. Now, some Iranian hackers
took credit and it's already back online, so this is
not some widespread outage, but they took credit for actually
clogging the truth social President Trump's platform social media platform
(20:58):
following the Iranian nuclear facility attacks. But that said, you know,
I'm based in Washington, d C. Larry, and what concerns
the intelligence community, the military community is that Lord forbid,
there would ever be a cyber nine to eleven that
has not happened. And the United States is the best innovation,
the best technology in the world. But that said, these
(21:21):
d DOS attacks are showing to the architects of these
tech platforms that these hackers have the ability to penetrate.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Wait a second, back up for a second. What is
a d DOS attack?
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Yes, it's a denial of service attack, and all that
is it just overwhelms a server and floods it with
fake traffic, so it clogs the you know, to use
a telephone analogy, it clogs the phone lines and it
makes it harder for anyone to access the line. And
so it's not high tech. It's just brute force. But
(21:54):
it can knock major systems offline if the defenses are weak.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So what you're saying, it's like Ticketmaster when Taylor Swift
tickets go on sale.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
I am not calling Taylor Swift a cyber terrorist at all.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right, but that's like, that's what it does to the
website track.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I see the analogy, and I like, and you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay. Natalie has always suspected Taylor Swift as being an agent.
She says this all the time, that she thinks that
she might be an agent. Uh, let's but it is
really the B team of hackers, isn't it. This isn't
China getting into the national defense. This is just a
whole lot of hackers flooding the system. So it's a
(22:39):
It's a minor attack, isn't it compared annoying protesters?
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Right to be honest with you, and so but I
think you know it. You know, I remember when I
was a kid. My teachers would say the United States
is protected because of the oceans. But I think as
a culture, as a society, we need to be thinking
of protecting the digital domain, that the digital frontier as
if it's a piece of land. Because as we continue
to advance with technology, we rely on artificial intelligence, we
(23:08):
rely on driverless cars. In the future, a cyber attack
can jump from URL to IRL. So the bottom line
is that we want to make sure that our defense
capabilities keeps pace with our ability to implement innovations like AI.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, for sure, that's a little scary.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Yeah, and listen, and I'm not you know, you know this.
I'm an optimist when it comes to technology, and I'd
rather live in a world with this technology than without it.
And this artificial intelligence, by the way, United States invented
that we are able to and we have the best
cyber capabilities in the world, but that we are able
to defend it as well, and especially with AI, when
(23:51):
you look at the energy grids for example, and how
much energy it takes to use AI, We're going to
have to make sure that our energy grid structures are
protected as well. Something that I'm really interested in is
quantum computing, which is going to come after artificial intelligence,
depending on which tech company you ask, we're either about
five years out or fifteen years out from quantum computing,
(24:14):
which is, like I would argue, going to be bigger
than the next Internet, and that actually could pose significant
risk to encryption. And people when they hear encryption they
think of crypto, and yes, that's correct, but encryption is
how we secure everything. And so if you're wondering what
the government's really up to on the tech front, they
(24:36):
actually just had a huge hacking thing where they sent
in the math nerds. Larry and the math nerds had
to come up with ways to defend the digital frontier
and encryption from quantum because quantum is arguably could be
an encryption killer.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Let's back up for a second and talk again about
the B list hackers from Iran. They got into truth Social.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Yeah, just well not his account, but the platform itself,
and so they were able to just again cloud the
system take it down. There's been some concern typically when
when there's some type of military force that they go
after banking institutions, they go after energy grids, as you mentioned,
but it begs the question from a diplomatic sense. What
(25:26):
is the cyber red line? You know, so awesome. When
we talk about modern warfare, we talk or even just warfare,
we talk about there's a red line. If this country
does this, this country will do that. And you know,
President Trump and was praised by the Israelis for holding
that red line as it relates to last week's attack
against the nuclear facilities. But on the cyber front, the
(25:49):
rules of the road are much more gray. And so
you know, obviously, if they took out hospital digital systems,
that would warrant a response. But when there's just these
denial of services against private sector companies, what actually is
the red line? And are our businesses protecting themselves against it?
(26:11):
And so you get into a lot of complicated issues
very fast, about reputational risks for shareholders and whatnot. But
it is the future of warfare.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Thanks so much, Kevin Surreally, futurist reporter and founder of
the Meet the Future website. Next time we talk to you,
we'll talk about life on Mars and the fact that
Natalie's little saus as the kids say, when it comes
to tailor swift yours, you know what I can see
(26:41):
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