May 12, 2025 • 7 mins
Cardinal Timothy Dolan joined Mendte in the Morning to talk about the selection of the American Pope and what to expect from the new leader of the Catholic Church.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Well, we're having some technical issues here with Ken Rizzotto,
but we do have a very special guest on the
phone who I don't think thought he would be speaking
with me. We do have Cardinal Timothy Dolan on this
morning lie from Rome, and as we try to get
Ken up, we're gonna say hi to the Cardinal good
(00:20):
morning or yep, it's still good morning there for you,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's a little afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yes, six hours. This is this is pretty wild
for me. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
This is this Natalie.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is Natalie. I know we were just speaking.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're a fair You're baton third after Larry and Ken. Huh.
I can't believe it's to speak with you, Natalie.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm homes Well, well, we do have a little New
York love here, and I think and might be back.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Up testing one too. Hello can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello? Hello? Good morning? Hey, I tell you Natalie tell
Ken to go back.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, I'm just glad I got to speak to you
for a moment, being in.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Than you Ken. What Ken? What happened? What happened to Larry?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I called some of my people and I said, listen,
you see those two tires in the front. Just a
little pin in the front and he'll be he'll be
off today. No, no, no, no, Cardinal's he'll be fined.
Larry had a little car trouble with his duke car,
but I'm sure he'll be in along a little bit.
But you're you're eminent. It's so good to have you
on and I know you're in one of my favorite
places on the planet. You've had a busy couple of weeks.
(01:34):
By the way, if you haven't gone to breakfast yet,
you know, I mean, I know it's afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
There's a place called Cafe de la Camari, which I
highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, you know there's another one here Ken called Home Baked,
which has American breakfast which aren't bad, and I've learned
to find it. I can get some pancakes, eggs, bacon,
not bad at all, not as good as our diners.
But anyway, I miss you, guys. I'm homesick. I've been here.
Now it'll tomorrow it'll be three weeks since I departed
(02:05):
from my beloved New York City for Rome for the
funeral of Pope Francis, and then of course to stay
for the preparations, and then the conclave, and of are
now already beloved Pope Leo the fourteenth, and I decided
ken the formal they call it the Mass of inauguration.
I mean the minute he says at the sixteen Chapel
(02:26):
at cepto, after he's after the ballots have been counted
and shown to be in his favor, the Cardinal Dean
says to him, You've just been nominated as supreme Pontiff
of the Roman Catholic Church. How do you respond? And
the minute he says a cepto, he becomes the successor
of Peter, the Bishop of Rome, our holy father of
(02:47):
the pope. So he's officially been pope since said, But
the formal Mass of inauguration will come this coming Sunday
in Saint Peter's Square at ten in the morning. Tough
for you guys to cover, but I thought i'd better
day for that. It'll be an honor to pray with
and for him. I want to show him all the
support and enthusiasm that I can. So I'm going to
stick around and then come back a week from today.
(03:09):
Is that all right?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That works, Cardinal? I'll have to ask you. Just between us,
nobody else is listening as you and me. Okay, you
obviously got to cast one of the votes. Did you
vote for Leo?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Listen? I know your ratings and it probably is between
you up for you and me.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Honestly, I have to, for real, I have to ask
you for a serious question when you want you're obviously
you've been through several of these now as cardinal? Does
it still send chills down your spine?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
When you bet it does, ked, I've only been through one.
I was there twenty thirteen after the the surprising resignation
of Pope Benedict, the conclave that elected Jorge Bergolio, the
arch Christoperguenis atas Pope Francis. So this is only my
second one. But you're right. I was kind of looked
upon now as a senior because I'd say eighty five
(04:06):
percent of the cardinals in the conclave were rookies. So yeah,
but you are correct. It still does not fail to
I mean the whole thing, Ken just walking into the
Sistine Chapel, being there in prayer and doing the votes,
and when he went over the required eighty seven to
(04:28):
win that we just all burst into tears when he
said that. Check through the tears continued when he went in.
By what name will you be chosen? As? Will you
be called? Was the next question. When he responded, Leo,
we were all kind of surprised or wasn't one of
the names one would have thought of, but it makes
eminent sense. Again, the tears continued. He goes into the
(04:50):
corner room to change into the white robes. They bring
out the chair that the Holy Father in which he sits,
which had been him. We use that Latin term sade
vicante empty chair at the death of a pope. They
put it the center in front of the altar, and
then he comes out of the what they call the
(05:10):
room of tears. He comes out clad as the new
Roman pontiff. And we cried again and no, you know,
we were all of a sudden reduced to kind kind
of like kids on Christmas morning. And it does not fail.
And then I tell you, ken, you watched it, you
guys reported it, well, uh it it. Then, of course,
(05:33):
when we then process out to get to the square,
we're there when we hear the cardinal deacon tell the crowd,
how Amus Popham we have a pope, which sends up
this towering eruption of applause and exuberants, and then of
course the minute he walks out, it goes on and
on and we're just again, We're like kids opening Christmas present.
(05:56):
It was an exhilarating experience.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, we got a ten seconds left, and I have
to ask one quick question here he is. He has
shown I think that he is as centrist as centrist
can be, because he has he has uh of course
coming out with with the the mozeta, when he came
to the balcony, to the loggia, and when he's when
he prayed in Latin, when he prayed in Italian. He
(06:20):
just he seems to be reaching out to everybody. And
I think I haven't heard a negative word from a
lot of people. Even laps Catholics are falling in love
with this man.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Let's let's hope that can last. And I think you're
onto something. Ken. He is. You know, he used the
word a temperate, a moderate. Uh. He's just kind of
a measured, shy, simple, humble, thoughtful, sensitive, listening Tela. We've
all fallen in love with him. Obviously we would ever
he wouldn't have gone out on the balcony. But I
think you're on target. Dick. Yet he's winner well.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Our fingers crossed and our prayers for him and for you.
We want you back safe and sound asap. Will be
looking for the installation Mass and God bless you, God
bless the College of Cardinals, and of course God bless you.
I'm a lifelong Catholic. I will keep praying for him.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You bet your awn man. Thanks to all the hometown crowd.
I miss you and I highly appreciate all the assurances
of prayer and support.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Thanks You're Eminence, Timothy Cardinal Dolan live from Rome. Thanks
for being on seven ten wor
Hey, Well, we're having some technical issues here with Ken Rizzotto,
but we do have a very special guest on the
phone who I don't think thought he would be speaking
with me. We do have Cardinal Timothy Dolan on this
morning lie from Rome, and as we try to get
Ken up, we're gonna say hi to the Cardinal good
(00:20):
morning or yep, it's still good morning there for you,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's a little afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh yes, six hours. This is this is pretty wild
for me. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
This is this Natalie.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is Natalie. I know we were just speaking.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're a fair You're baton third after Larry and Ken. Huh.
I can't believe it's to speak with you, Natalie.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm homes Well, well, we do have a little New
York love here, and I think and might be back.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Up testing one too. Hello can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello? Hello? Good morning? Hey, I tell you Natalie tell
Ken to go back.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, I'm just glad I got to speak to you
for a moment, being in.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Than you Ken. What Ken? What happened? What happened to Larry?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I called some of my people and I said, listen,
you see those two tires in the front. Just a
little pin in the front and he'll be he'll be
off today. No, no, no, no, Cardinal's he'll be fined.
Larry had a little car trouble with his duke car,
but I'm sure he'll be in along a little bit.
But you're you're eminent. It's so good to have you
on and I know you're in one of my favorite
places on the planet. You've had a busy couple of weeks.
(01:34):
By the way, if you haven't gone to breakfast yet,
you know, I mean, I know it's afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
There's a place called Cafe de la Camari, which I
highly recommend.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, you know there's another one here Ken called Home Baked,
which has American breakfast which aren't bad, and I've learned
to find it. I can get some pancakes, eggs, bacon,
not bad at all, not as good as our diners.
But anyway, I miss you, guys. I'm homesick. I've been here.
Now it'll tomorrow it'll be three weeks since I departed
(02:05):
from my beloved New York City for Rome for the
funeral of Pope Francis, and then of course to stay
for the preparations, and then the conclave, and of are
now already beloved Pope Leo the fourteenth, and I decided
ken the formal they call it the Mass of inauguration.
I mean the minute he says at the sixteen Chapel
(02:26):
at cepto, after he's after the ballots have been counted
and shown to be in his favor, the Cardinal Dean
says to him, You've just been nominated as supreme Pontiff
of the Roman Catholic Church. How do you respond? And
the minute he says a cepto, he becomes the successor
of Peter, the Bishop of Rome, our holy father of
(02:47):
the pope. So he's officially been pope since said, But
the formal Mass of inauguration will come this coming Sunday
in Saint Peter's Square at ten in the morning. Tough
for you guys to cover, but I thought i'd better
day for that. It'll be an honor to pray with
and for him. I want to show him all the
support and enthusiasm that I can. So I'm going to
stick around and then come back a week from today.
(03:09):
Is that all right?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That works, Cardinal? I'll have to ask you. Just between us,
nobody else is listening as you and me. Okay, you
obviously got to cast one of the votes. Did you
vote for Leo?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Listen? I know your ratings and it probably is between
you up for you and me.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Honestly, I have to, for real, I have to ask
you for a serious question when you want you're obviously
you've been through several of these now as cardinal? Does
it still send chills down your spine?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
When you bet it does, ked, I've only been through one.
I was there twenty thirteen after the the surprising resignation
of Pope Benedict, the conclave that elected Jorge Bergolio, the
arch Christoperguenis atas Pope Francis. So this is only my
second one. But you're right. I was kind of looked
upon now as a senior because I'd say eighty five
(04:06):
percent of the cardinals in the conclave were rookies. So yeah,
but you are correct. It still does not fail to
I mean the whole thing, Ken just walking into the
Sistine Chapel, being there in prayer and doing the votes,
and when he went over the required eighty seven to
(04:28):
win that we just all burst into tears when he
said that. Check through the tears continued when he went in.
By what name will you be chosen? As? Will you
be called? Was the next question. When he responded, Leo,
we were all kind of surprised or wasn't one of
the names one would have thought of, but it makes
eminent sense. Again, the tears continued. He goes into the
(04:50):
corner room to change into the white robes. They bring
out the chair that the Holy Father in which he sits,
which had been him. We use that Latin term sade
vicante empty chair at the death of a pope. They
put it the center in front of the altar, and
then he comes out of the what they call the
(05:10):
room of tears. He comes out clad as the new
Roman pontiff. And we cried again and no, you know,
we were all of a sudden reduced to kind kind
of like kids on Christmas morning. And it does not fail.
And then I tell you, ken, you watched it, you
guys reported it, well, uh it it. Then, of course,
(05:33):
when we then process out to get to the square,
we're there when we hear the cardinal deacon tell the crowd,
how Amus Popham we have a pope, which sends up
this towering eruption of applause and exuberants, and then of
course the minute he walks out, it goes on and
on and we're just again, We're like kids opening Christmas present.
(05:56):
It was an exhilarating experience.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, we got a ten seconds left, and I have
to ask one quick question here he is. He has
shown I think that he is as centrist as centrist
can be, because he has he has uh of course
coming out with with the the mozeta, when he came
to the balcony, to the loggia, and when he's when
he prayed in Latin, when he prayed in Italian. He
(06:20):
just he seems to be reaching out to everybody. And
I think I haven't heard a negative word from a
lot of people. Even laps Catholics are falling in love
with this man.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Let's let's hope that can last. And I think you're
onto something. Ken. He is. You know, he used the
word a temperate, a moderate. Uh. He's just kind of
a measured, shy, simple, humble, thoughtful, sensitive, listening Tela. We've
all fallen in love with him. Obviously we would ever
he wouldn't have gone out on the balcony. But I
think you're on target. Dick. Yet he's winner well.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Our fingers crossed and our prayers for him and for you.
We want you back safe and sound asap. Will be
looking for the installation Mass and God bless you, God
bless the College of Cardinals, and of course God bless you.
I'm a lifelong Catholic. I will keep praying for him.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You bet your awn man. Thanks to all the hometown crowd.
I miss you and I highly appreciate all the assurances
of prayer and support.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Thanks You're Eminence, Timothy Cardinal Dolan live from Rome. Thanks
for being on seven ten wor
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