August 14, 2025 • 9 mins
Governor Paterson's view on former Governor Cuomo becoming Mayor has changed. He is now endorsing our current Mayor, Eric Adams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Remember just a couple of months ago when former Governor
(00:03):
David Patterson was all in on Andrew Cuomo for mayor. Well,
something changed, and I guess that endorsements are as fleeting
his love these days. And we have David Patterson right here.
David Patterson, former Governor of New York. Governor, thanks so
much for joining us, sir. I appreciate your time. Oh okay,
if that was an aid saying that the governor's coming
(00:24):
to the phone, I'm sure he's having a busy day
after his endorsement endorsement of Mayor Adams yesterday, which seemingly
came out of nowhere. Everybody thought he was all in
on Governor Cuomo, and I'm not, apparently, And I'm sure
he's doing a whole lot of interviews. I guess we're
in a line. We're like at the airport with the
planes circling. We're circling. Hey, Governor, how are you? Thanks
(00:48):
for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good morning, Larry, how are you so?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm a little confused, That's how I am this morning.
I thought you were all in on Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, a lot of people people have talked about that
and what happened was that in Earlier in the year,
the New York County Leader Keith Wright asked me if
I would join him in endorsing Governor Cuomo because at
that time he was fifteen points ahead in the Democratic
(01:20):
primary and he just seemed to be steamrolling his way
through it, so there was no reason not to endorse him.
And also he governed the state for eleven years quite well,
so we did that. However, in twenty twenty one, my
endorsement for mayor in the Democratic primary was Eric Adams,
and I had planned on endorsing him again, but because
(01:41):
of his legal problems and he was out of the process,
he withdrew from running in the primary. So Culomo was
the best available candidate to endorse. So when the County
leader asked me to do it, I was happy to
do it. But now we're in the general election, neither
Adams nor Clomo is on the Democratic line, and Adams
(02:02):
being the candidate that I wanted from the very beginning,
that's why I endorsed him.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh that's interesting, but he's way behind at this point.
That didn't play at all into the decision. I mean,
I would think if you wanted a Democrat that could
defeat zor In Mamdani. At least the polls right now
show Andrew Cuomo has is the better choice.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think if it was a one on one race
that either one of them could beat Zorin Mamdani. But
the thing is kind of interesting. At the press conference,
Mayor Adams pointed out that he is in the polls
right now, ninety four days before the general election. He
is at the same level that Mamdani was in ninety
(02:48):
four days before the end of the primary season. So
he does have a chance to do it. Now. I
will say that he has a difficulty and you could
really see it yesterday because he, you know, was talking
about being the voice of the people, and you know,
he has done a lot of really positive things. But
at the same time, he vetoed the increase for transportation
(03:15):
workers for businesses that delivery workers, and the city council
raised their minimum wage and he vetoed it, so you know,
the business community would obviously like that, the city council
obviously will hate that. Where As in twenty twenty one,
he was pretty much getting support from the city council
(03:36):
members individually, and he was getting support from business leaders
who saw him as a reasonable person, and when the
other choices were Maya Wiley among others, they saw him
as the best choice. But in this situation, he's in
a sense asking New Yorkers of different views to both
(04:00):
vote for him, and that's going to be very difficult
because you know, when you veto somebody's legislation, they take
it personally, particularly people who thought they would get an
increase in wages.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So you think he made a mistake, Well.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's it's a mistake if he doesn't win, but it's
also what's making it the pathway to victory difficult for him.
I think he can do it, and he was the
candidate that I thought would govern the city best. So
I didn't really assess who's going to win and who's
(04:40):
going to lose. But what I will say is when
you look at the pathway to victory for him, it's
situations such as what I just described that are going
to make the journey difficult. Now, he's hardworking. I accidentally
ran into him about an hour after the press converse.
He was doing a commercial on some street we were
(05:02):
driving down. But the point is that he's going to
have to make up his mind for sure who he
is going to be between now and November, so when
people go to the polls, they'll know what they're getting.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You'd think he would have figured that out in four
years of mayor. And I want to go back to
your example. You gave a second ago where you said
murmurs or in mom Donnie. He came up from one
percent in the polls to win it. Nobody knew who
he was. Everybody knows who Eric Adams is, and according
to the polls, they're rejecting him. And I think they're
(05:39):
rejecting him because of his ties to Donald Trump. Do
you think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, you see, that's another problem. Today he made a
comment because there was a twenty year old high school
student who went for his regular check in with immigration
and he was picked up and now he's in a
prison in Pennsylvania. And Adams defended the you know, immigrants
(06:09):
who are in the system going through the process from
the you know, the Justice Department or whoever it is,
whisking them off to another state and putting them in
a prison without any due process. So he had the
right point of view there, But then you know when
it comes to the the the other issues that you know,
(06:32):
particularly previously he has stood up, you know, more so
for the administration than the rights of people. And you know,
if you're listening to this discussion, whatever your point of
view is, you have to have one. You can't have
you know, two or three. And I think that's causing
(06:53):
a problem. And I will say this Larry that his
appearance on Fox Knew Who with Tom Holman, where the
interviewer asked Holman, what will you do if Eric Adams
doesn't get this immigration situation under control? And Holman suggests
that he was going to put his foot up a
(07:14):
part of the mayor's body. He just kind of sitat
there and took it. And that kind of got around
as if he was afraid to actually say anything back.
And it took I think a long time for him
to get through it. I think he's through it now.
But time is costly when you're running for office.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I get it, but I also get that things aren't
serious until September. Hey, after you made this decision, or
maybe before it, did you talk to former Governor Cuomo
about it?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No? I didn't. His office called my office suggesting that
I had said that the candidate with the lowest poll
numbers should get out of the race September. This was
at a previous press conference. I never said that. What
I said was that the candidate with the highest pull
(08:11):
numbers next to mom Danni the other candidate, should get
out and let that person run one to one, which
actually would have benefited Governor Cuomo. But his staff is
so out of touch with reality that they call up
and start making these allegations, and they didn't check the
facts first.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And it sounds like they're a little upset with you.
So you're not going to be having dinner with Andrew
Cuomo anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, but I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Who else is on that list.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm curious just about everybody else is running against him.
He you know, he just does these things that you know,
you just you know, can't understand what the logic of
it is. And unfortunately it really really hurt him. He
didn't go to any of the debates, he didn't participate
in the public forums. He wasn't campaigning on the streets,
(09:06):
you know. He was calling up heavy donors and making
a lot of money and putting out a lot of commercials.
But right now, from time to time, when people go
to the polls, they're not thinking about that. They're thinking
more grassroots, and they saw Mamdani as an alternative to
his conduct.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, he didn't run on a good campaign at all.
Governor Patterson, thanks so much for your time. It was
great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Hey, Larry, we'll do it again, please,
Remember just a couple of months ago when former Governor
(00:03):
David Patterson was all in on Andrew Cuomo for mayor. Well,
something changed, and I guess that endorsements are as fleeting
his love these days. And we have David Patterson right here.
David Patterson, former Governor of New York. Governor, thanks so
much for joining us, sir. I appreciate your time. Oh okay,
if that was an aid saying that the governor's coming
(00:24):
to the phone, I'm sure he's having a busy day
after his endorsement endorsement of Mayor Adams yesterday, which seemingly
came out of nowhere. Everybody thought he was all in
on Governor Cuomo, and I'm not, apparently, And I'm sure
he's doing a whole lot of interviews. I guess we're
in a line. We're like at the airport with the
planes circling. We're circling. Hey, Governor, how are you? Thanks
(00:48):
for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good morning, Larry, how are you so?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm a little confused, That's how I am this morning.
I thought you were all in on Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, a lot of people people have talked about that
and what happened was that in Earlier in the year,
the New York County Leader Keith Wright asked me if
I would join him in endorsing Governor Cuomo because at
that time he was fifteen points ahead in the Democratic
(01:20):
primary and he just seemed to be steamrolling his way
through it, so there was no reason not to endorse him.
And also he governed the state for eleven years quite well,
so we did that. However, in twenty twenty one, my
endorsement for mayor in the Democratic primary was Eric Adams,
and I had planned on endorsing him again, but because
(01:41):
of his legal problems and he was out of the process,
he withdrew from running in the primary. So Culomo was
the best available candidate to endorse. So when the County
leader asked me to do it, I was happy to
do it. But now we're in the general election, neither
Adams nor Clomo is on the Democratic line, and Adams
(02:02):
being the candidate that I wanted from the very beginning,
that's why I endorsed him.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh that's interesting, but he's way behind at this point.
That didn't play at all into the decision. I mean,
I would think if you wanted a Democrat that could
defeat zor In Mamdani. At least the polls right now
show Andrew Cuomo has is the better choice.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think if it was a one on one race
that either one of them could beat Zorin Mamdani. But
the thing is kind of interesting. At the press conference,
Mayor Adams pointed out that he is in the polls
right now, ninety four days before the general election. He
is at the same level that Mamdani was in ninety
(02:48):
four days before the end of the primary season. So
he does have a chance to do it. Now. I
will say that he has a difficulty and you could
really see it yesterday because he, you know, was talking
about being the voice of the people, and you know,
he has done a lot of really positive things. But
at the same time, he vetoed the increase for transportation
(03:15):
workers for businesses that delivery workers, and the city council
raised their minimum wage and he vetoed it, so you know,
the business community would obviously like that, the city council
obviously will hate that. Where As in twenty twenty one,
he was pretty much getting support from the city council
(03:36):
members individually, and he was getting support from business leaders
who saw him as a reasonable person, and when the
other choices were Maya Wiley among others, they saw him
as the best choice. But in this situation, he's in
a sense asking New Yorkers of different views to both
(04:00):
vote for him, and that's going to be very difficult
because you know, when you veto somebody's legislation, they take
it personally, particularly people who thought they would get an
increase in wages.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So you think he made a mistake, Well.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's it's a mistake if he doesn't win, but it's
also what's making it the pathway to victory difficult for him.
I think he can do it, and he was the
candidate that I thought would govern the city best. So
I didn't really assess who's going to win and who's
(04:40):
going to lose. But what I will say is when
you look at the pathway to victory for him, it's
situations such as what I just described that are going
to make the journey difficult. Now, he's hardworking. I accidentally
ran into him about an hour after the press converse.
He was doing a commercial on some street we were
(05:02):
driving down. But the point is that he's going to
have to make up his mind for sure who he
is going to be between now and November, so when
people go to the polls, they'll know what they're getting.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You'd think he would have figured that out in four
years of mayor. And I want to go back to
your example. You gave a second ago where you said
murmurs or in mom Donnie. He came up from one
percent in the polls to win it. Nobody knew who
he was. Everybody knows who Eric Adams is, and according
to the polls, they're rejecting him. And I think they're
(05:39):
rejecting him because of his ties to Donald Trump. Do
you think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, you see, that's another problem. Today he made a
comment because there was a twenty year old high school
student who went for his regular check in with immigration
and he was picked up and now he's in a
prison in Pennsylvania. And Adams defended the you know, immigrants
(06:09):
who are in the system going through the process from
the you know, the Justice Department or whoever it is,
whisking them off to another state and putting them in
a prison without any due process. So he had the
right point of view there, But then you know when
it comes to the the the other issues that you know,
(06:32):
particularly previously he has stood up, you know, more so
for the administration than the rights of people. And you know,
if you're listening to this discussion, whatever your point of
view is, you have to have one. You can't have
you know, two or three. And I think that's causing
(06:53):
a problem. And I will say this Larry that his
appearance on Fox Knew Who with Tom Holman, where the
interviewer asked Holman, what will you do if Eric Adams
doesn't get this immigration situation under control? And Holman suggests
that he was going to put his foot up a
(07:14):
part of the mayor's body. He just kind of sitat
there and took it. And that kind of got around
as if he was afraid to actually say anything back.
And it took I think a long time for him
to get through it. I think he's through it now.
But time is costly when you're running for office.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I get it, but I also get that things aren't
serious until September. Hey, after you made this decision, or
maybe before it, did you talk to former Governor Cuomo
about it?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No? I didn't. His office called my office suggesting that
I had said that the candidate with the lowest poll
numbers should get out of the race September. This was
at a previous press conference. I never said that. What
I said was that the candidate with the highest pull
(08:11):
numbers next to mom Danni the other candidate, should get
out and let that person run one to one, which
actually would have benefited Governor Cuomo. But his staff is
so out of touch with reality that they call up
and start making these allegations, and they didn't check the
facts first.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And it sounds like they're a little upset with you.
So you're not going to be having dinner with Andrew
Cuomo anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, but I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Who else is on that list.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm curious just about everybody else is running against him.
He you know, he just does these things that you know,
you just you know, can't understand what the logic of
it is. And unfortunately it really really hurt him. He
didn't go to any of the debates, he didn't participate
in the public forums. He wasn't campaigning on the streets,
(09:06):
you know. He was calling up heavy donors and making
a lot of money and putting out a lot of commercials.
But right now, from time to time, when people go
to the polls, they're not thinking about that. They're thinking
more grassroots, and they saw Mamdani as an alternative to
his conduct.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, he didn't run on a good campaign at all.
Governor Patterson, thanks so much for your time. It was
great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Hey, Larry, we'll do it again, please,
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