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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is it possible at this point for Zorin Mamdani to
repair his reputation with New York's Jewish community? If he
wants to win in the general election, he's going to
need to. But let's find out if that's even possible
with Dove Haiken, former member of the New York State Assembly,
he was there for thirty six years and founder of
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Americans Against Anti Semitism. Thanks so much for being here, Dove.
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'll ask you, okay, please your pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Let me ask you the question, just point blank, is
it possible for Zurin Mamdani to repair his reputation with
the Jewish community.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
The answer is absolutely not, because I think everyone out
there realizes that what Mamdani has been doing is support
in the streets of New York. For the past couple
of years, the marches globalized the Atapada from the river
to the sea, him being there being part of it,
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those who support Commas and the rest of it, and
the whole history. Mamdani is not someone who suddenly a
year ago, or six months ago, even two years ago,
became a radicalized Islamist. It goes back to when he
was a kid, his family, his father, It's part of
who he is. And no one is going to be
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fooled by the desperate attempts by Democratic leaders in New York.
I mean they're desperate. They're in a difficult situation. You know,
Democrats want to support democrats regardless of who the Democrat is,
regardless of how terrible that person is for the well
being of the communities they represent. So there's a desperation
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for people like Schumer and others to be able to say, Look,
we got Mamdani to say that he's not really he's
going to try to get people not to say globalized
me as a father, let us ho preposterous. I mean,
give Mamdani credit. He is a radical of Islamis. Leave
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him alone. This is what he believes. No one is
going to be fooled by any of this. And look,
we spoke just a short while ago. I was talking
about Curtis Sliwa and the very latest poll. I mean,
it's incredible. I know it's only one poll in one moment,
but this race is far far from over, with Curtis
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Sleiwa having a great chance. You know, this is a
fascinating period, but it's about saving New York. Really, this
is not rhetoric to get about being a Democrat, Republican
or anything else. This year, be an American, be a
New Yorker caring about the future of New York. And
the last person you can support is Mamdani if you
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care about our future.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
We have Curtis Leewa, by the way, coming up in
about twenty minutes, so we're gonna be talking to him live.
And I know he's excited about that latest poll. It
does show and he's been saying this from the beginning.
By the way, in a four way race, he can win.
And he's been saying that from the beginning. Let me
ask you more about zorinmm Dannie. So it's irreparable at
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this point that like if he were to come to
leaders of the Jewish community and he would have say
to them, you know what, I was just wrong. I
was wrong, and I apologize, and I don't believe in
a global infantata and I don't believe in River to
the Sea, and I hope I can get your support.
Is it too late for that?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, look, Larry, if someone truly says I made a mistake,
you know, if Cuomo wants to have a chance, he
has to deal with some of the horrible things that
he was involved with and say to New Yorkers, look,
I made a mistake. I was wrong. He's got to
say something. He doesn't, he's dead in the water as
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far as Mamdania is concerned. I mean, if a guy
gets on his knees and says, I beg and plead please,
and he goes through all of these things, Larry, it's
impossible because then everyone else than the people who supported him.
Remember a lot of his support came from radicalized LEFTUS
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who supported him precisely because he was marching in the
streets in support of BDS, globalizing Infata from the river
to the sea, Aparthi genocide, accusing is real of those things.
So you know, he goes the other way and suddenly,
you know, like like obviously, you know it's the general election.
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I got to change my views. Who's going to buy
that the people who supported him would abandon him, So
it makes no sense. I really believe Mamdanie is true
to the things that he has said. He really believes
those things, and I give him credit for that. And
we've got to make sure the Feedom, so he's not
going anywhere. Look, it's the Democratic leadership that is so desperate.
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I mean, Schumer is so pathetically desperate, the protector of
the Jewish people, Chuck Schumer, who, by the way, has
in his book that he just wrote about anti Semetism
just a short while ago. He says, globalize the Intifada
means the murder of every Jew in Israel. And Schumer
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goes a step further in that book and he says
it means the murder of Jews everywhere. And this is
what Mamdani has been part of. So suddenly now because
he needs to win the election and he knows he's
in trouble. I mean, Mamdani may be leading by a
pointer too, But we have an opportunity to the theak
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this individual, this radical, and send a message to the
entire country to.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Defeat him, to say this to Curtis Leeva too, To
defeat him. You have to pray, hope and pray that
Eric Adams and Cuomo don't join forces. And right now
it looks like an impossibility. But if they feel like
a Republican might get in or a socialist might get in,
that very well could happen if they're desperate on that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah. Look, I never say it's impossible when it comes
to a politician and making deals, and you know, like
the normal person would say that's impossible, that can't happen.
But look, look the way Adams talks about Cuomo, the
way Cuomo talks about Adams. For them to suddenly come
together to join, I think would turn people off even more.
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I think Curtis is really he's been around, but he's
the fresh space. Think about it. He's the guy that
has been out there protecting communities, not getting anything really
in return, doing a lot of amazing stuff. So I think, look, Cuomo,
we know the guy. The guy has to leave being governor.
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Now we are going to make him the mayor of
New York. I mean, does that make sense? I mean
Adams is I mean god disaster, I mean the corruption
and new things have come out almost daily about his administration.
I mean, what do we want to award him a
given four more years?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
No, I agree with you, you really mean this.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I guess there's a guy who could do this.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I get it, And I'll tell him you said that too.
He's coming up in a little bit over twenty minutes,
actually about fifteen now. Dove Hiken, thank you so much.
It was great to talk to you again. Former member
of the New York State Assembly and founder of Americans
Against Anti Semitism. Have a good weekend of
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Thanks Larry good Shovis, and a good weekend