May 22, 2025 • 9 mins
Joe has a new book out that highlights President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill, and his campaign. The House passed The Big Beautiful Bill earlier this morning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You have Joe Conca now Joe kancha Fox News contributor.
As I said a moment ago, he's got a new
book out, the greatest comeback ever, Inside Trump's Big Beautiful campaign.
So Joe, before we get to that meeting and how
the press covered it and how Peter Alexander was embarrassed
in that meeting, how's the book doing.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Looks so great? Thank you, Larry New York Times bestseller,
which is kind of cool. Wow, you know, yeah, you
told me this in high school, where I could barely
do like a term paper. It's really something. But the
president endorsed it on social media. Obviously having a platform
like Fox certainly helps get the word out. So yeah,
(00:40):
very successful and shows like this promoting it as well.
Larry Mine gives his thumbs up. Then you know you
can't be stopped that.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, that's it. That's what puts it on the list,
no question, not Donald Trump. I can't even believe you
led with that. I should have been the lead in that,
and when you get you don't even know why you
were doing that. I was talking about a moment ago,
the fact that I really maybe I'm not looking that closely,
but it really struck me that headline after headline after
headline the BBC, CNN, MSNBC, across the board, there were
(01:12):
five or six of them that said the exact same
thing about Donald Trump's meeting with the Prime Minister of
South Africa Donald Trump and Bush's am Bush's the Prime
Minister of South Africa. Yeah, I don't explain that to me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I would do a headline something like Donald Trump provides
receipts to South African Prime Minister, and that's exactly what
he did. Here you had the South African leader denying
that clearly there are mass murders going on, unfortunately of
white farmers in South Africa. And just take race out
(01:52):
of for a second, of farmers, okay, just people just
trying to make a living. And he shows headline after
headline and then even news clips and video on a
television says, dim the lights here you go, this is
what's going on. What are you gonna do about it?
And Brent Bozell, who's the former head of the Media
Research Center, he's now the Ambassador to South Africa. And
(02:14):
I spoke to Brent, and and you know, just off
the record, I can tell you just paraphrasing him. He
says that it is it is a horrible thing that's
going on down there, and it absolutely must be stopped,
and the president is trying to do that. This is
the peace president right now, Larry. I mean, you think
about what he's doing with Ukraine and Russia trying to
broker a piece there, or Joe Biden or whoever was
running the country. He just threw money at the problem
(02:35):
and just said let's keep this war going in perpetuity.
We see what he's doing with Gaza as well as
far as that conflict, and this is a This is
a guy who wants peace because that's better for the
United States. It's better for the business of the United
States and the national interest in the United States. And
that's all Donald Trump's trying to do. And yet these
headlines just go against him time after time. But no
one's really trusting or believe in the press at this point.
(02:58):
Their approval writing is around that gas station sushi, and
that's not where you want to be if you're the
United States media. Right now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I happened to like guests station sushi, so I took
that more. It's not that bad, hey, you know, it
was talking about that meeting. You were talking about Donald
Trump doing that. What I thought was one of the
most fascinating things. And I'll get to Peter Alexander in
a second, because that was the most fascinating. But one
of the most fascinating things was when the Prime Minister
(03:25):
brought two white golfers, thinking, oh, Donald Trump will like them.
They're both white and they golf and Retief Goosen I believe,
is how you pronounce his name was asked about he said, well,
you can ask them. The Prime Minister said, you can
ask them if there's any genocide and he said, well,
I have a family that have farms and they're scared
(03:46):
for their lives right now.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So exactly my plan. But to go, oh man, yeah,
that was amazing. Yeah, it's Retief Goosen right exactly. And
you would be a former like Break. He's a bit
older now. But that's the thing. Donald Trump is the
most transparent And I'm not saying this as like yay Trump.
I'm just going by numbers in facts, Larry, he is
(04:09):
the most transparent president we have ever seen in terms
of access to these meetings. And sometimes they may go
sideways and people say, oh Trump, what's he doing? You
know whether it be with Zelenski of Ukraine or now
the South African leader, but either way, it's all out
in the open. You could ask questions even if you're
you know Acosta Light, Jim Acosta Light, who is Peter Alexander?
(04:30):
And Trump will call you out on it if he
thinks it's a bad question, or he'll answer it if
he thinks it's a a fair one. And that's something
that we never saw during the Joe Biden presidency, where
he was protected. He was homogenized for all reasons that
we're only learning after the fact.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Let me tell you what was going on with Peter Alexander.
I think Peter Alexander went to that meeting and no
matter what was going to happen, he was going to
ask about the Qatar airplane. He was going to talk
about that jet. That's all he was going to talk about.
And he had that in his mind and he was
framing question. He practiced ten or ten or twelve times,
and he had his opportunity, and here you have this
(05:06):
video that was compelling about genocide, and they open it
up the questions. He's the first one. He's all excited
because he's practiced it and it landed like a well,
I won't say the word, but it didn't land well
in that room.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Lead balloon. We'll go with that, thank you. Yeah, yeah.
That Peter Alexander was in the shower saying that over
and over to himself, thinking of all the headlines he's
gonna draw for himself, thinking himself the story the jet's
a non story in my opinion, quite frankly, because people say, oh,
if this is used as Air Force one, that's gonna
be bugged and we're gonna have national security compromise. It
(05:44):
wouldn't be ready for years A to be Air Force
one ready, and B Trumps already said that, you know,
if I do accept this, it's just gonna go in
my presidential library. So it's kind of a who cares
type of thing, like, okay, it's a as Trump said,
it's like a golf putt, and when you're told two
feet away from the whole, just pick up the ball.
It's a guinea. You take the guinea. You just don't
(06:04):
deny it. And then somebody wants to give us a
four hundred million dollars jet, All right, fine, Trump will
take it. And as we know, he's not gonna be compromised.
He's not gonna be bought. Donald Trump can't be bought.
He's gonna do what he's gonna do in the national
interest of this country, like we talked about. And if
this is gonna wun his presidential library, I say, who cares?
And Peter Alexander, this is why NBC News is really
just MSNBC without the MS at this point exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That was really well said, And Peter Alexander, the shame
of it is it was a stupid question. It really
was a dumb question. And he deserved to be called
on the carpet a lot by Donald Trump. But when
he goes back to NBC and the people that watch NBC,
they probably think he's a hero for that question.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh no, he's a victim. Actually, this is Donald Trump
stepping on the First Amendment and he's attacking the press,
the free and fair press, the free and fair press
that lied for four years about Joe Biden's condition or
refuse to cover it right. And now because there's a
book coming out and Jake Tapper wants to make more money,
I mean, how many yachts can you order? Skeevie Hinpalell,
(07:05):
how much is enough to quote Wall Street. Yeah. Again,
no one's a victim here and no one's a hero.
Quite frankly, this is how it works with news. Bad
questions get you rewarded, unfortunately over places like thirty Rock.
But this is why Box News right now, Larry, don't
leave it here, he to go. Box News is now
doubling CNN and MSNBC in primetime combined. So you take
(07:28):
their audiences, you double it, and we're still beating it.
So there's a reason for that because we actually have
a news division that reports facts while these guys are
all performance artists at these other places.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah. No, I agree with you one thousand percent. It
is interesting. Democratic politician after democratic politician they wear Donald
Trump going after them on their sleeves. I don't know
if you saw it, but Andrew Cuomo put out an
ad and it's an ad talking about the fact that
he's now being investigated by Donald Trump, so he thinks
(08:00):
this is a political win.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah. I mean, just like the Newark incident that we
saw ice agents being beat up by a New Jersey congresswoman,
right hitting them and then saying I'm the victim. Donald
Trump is targeting me, and then the media says, you're
targeting this woman. No, you hit a law enforce, law
enforcement officer. I don't care who it is, ice, police,
(08:23):
doesn't matter. You're gonna go to jail. It's that simple.
I don't care. If you're a Republican a Democrat, the
book should be thrown at you. And the fact that
the media is trying to make her a victim or
Letitia James New York who lied about her residency in
order to give better loans. Ironically enough, the things she
went after Donald Trump for, she deserves to be in
jail as well. If those allegations are true. The investigations
(08:45):
are absolutely warranted. And this is the way it works.
Accountability is back in stylary. And I'll leave it there.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, we'll leave it there completely. Joe Kantcha, Fox News contributor,
new book is the greatest comeback ever Inside Trump's Big
Beautiful campaign. A New York Times bestseller. As always, Thank you,
Joe
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Thank you, Mary Oka,
You have Joe Conca now Joe kancha Fox News contributor.
As I said a moment ago, he's got a new
book out, the greatest comeback ever, Inside Trump's Big Beautiful campaign.
So Joe, before we get to that meeting and how
the press covered it and how Peter Alexander was embarrassed
in that meeting, how's the book doing.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Looks so great? Thank you, Larry New York Times bestseller,
which is kind of cool. Wow, you know, yeah, you
told me this in high school, where I could barely
do like a term paper. It's really something. But the
president endorsed it on social media. Obviously having a platform
like Fox certainly helps get the word out. So yeah,
(00:40):
very successful and shows like this promoting it as well.
Larry Mine gives his thumbs up. Then you know you
can't be stopped that.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, that's it. That's what puts it on the list,
no question, not Donald Trump. I can't even believe you
led with that. I should have been the lead in that,
and when you get you don't even know why you
were doing that. I was talking about a moment ago,
the fact that I really maybe I'm not looking that closely,
but it really struck me that headline after headline after
headline the BBC, CNN, MSNBC, across the board, there were
(01:12):
five or six of them that said the exact same
thing about Donald Trump's meeting with the Prime Minister of
South Africa Donald Trump and Bush's am Bush's the Prime
Minister of South Africa. Yeah, I don't explain that to me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I would do a headline something like Donald Trump provides
receipts to South African Prime Minister, and that's exactly what
he did. Here you had the South African leader denying
that clearly there are mass murders going on, unfortunately of
white farmers in South Africa. And just take race out
(01:52):
of for a second, of farmers, okay, just people just
trying to make a living. And he shows headline after
headline and then even news clips and video on a
television says, dim the lights here you go, this is
what's going on. What are you gonna do about it?
And Brent Bozell, who's the former head of the Media
Research Center, he's now the Ambassador to South Africa. And
(02:14):
I spoke to Brent, and and you know, just off
the record, I can tell you just paraphrasing him. He
says that it is it is a horrible thing that's
going on down there, and it absolutely must be stopped,
and the president is trying to do that. This is
the peace president right now, Larry. I mean, you think
about what he's doing with Ukraine and Russia trying to
broker a piece there, or Joe Biden or whoever was
running the country. He just threw money at the problem
(02:35):
and just said let's keep this war going in perpetuity.
We see what he's doing with Gaza as well as
far as that conflict, and this is a This is
a guy who wants peace because that's better for the
United States. It's better for the business of the United
States and the national interest in the United States. And
that's all Donald Trump's trying to do. And yet these
headlines just go against him time after time. But no
one's really trusting or believe in the press at this point.
(02:58):
Their approval writing is around that gas station sushi, and
that's not where you want to be if you're the
United States media. Right now.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I happened to like guests station sushi, so I took
that more. It's not that bad, hey, you know, it
was talking about that meeting. You were talking about Donald
Trump doing that. What I thought was one of the
most fascinating things. And I'll get to Peter Alexander in
a second, because that was the most fascinating. But one
of the most fascinating things was when the Prime Minister
(03:25):
brought two white golfers, thinking, oh, Donald Trump will like them.
They're both white and they golf and Retief Goosen I believe,
is how you pronounce his name was asked about he said, well,
you can ask them. The Prime Minister said, you can
ask them if there's any genocide and he said, well,
I have a family that have farms and they're scared
(03:46):
for their lives right now.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So exactly my plan. But to go, oh man, yeah,
that was amazing. Yeah, it's Retief Goosen right exactly. And
you would be a former like Break. He's a bit
older now. But that's the thing. Donald Trump is the
most transparent And I'm not saying this as like yay Trump.
I'm just going by numbers in facts, Larry, he is
(04:09):
the most transparent president we have ever seen in terms
of access to these meetings. And sometimes they may go
sideways and people say, oh Trump, what's he doing? You
know whether it be with Zelenski of Ukraine or now
the South African leader, but either way, it's all out
in the open. You could ask questions even if you're
you know Acosta Light, Jim Acosta Light, who is Peter Alexander?
(04:30):
And Trump will call you out on it if he
thinks it's a bad question, or he'll answer it if
he thinks it's a a fair one. And that's something
that we never saw during the Joe Biden presidency, where
he was protected. He was homogenized for all reasons that
we're only learning after the fact.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Let me tell you what was going on with Peter Alexander.
I think Peter Alexander went to that meeting and no
matter what was going to happen, he was going to
ask about the Qatar airplane. He was going to talk
about that jet. That's all he was going to talk about.
And he had that in his mind and he was
framing question. He practiced ten or ten or twelve times,
and he had his opportunity, and here you have this
(05:06):
video that was compelling about genocide, and they open it
up the questions. He's the first one. He's all excited
because he's practiced it and it landed like a well,
I won't say the word, but it didn't land well
in that room.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Lead balloon. We'll go with that, thank you. Yeah, yeah.
That Peter Alexander was in the shower saying that over
and over to himself, thinking of all the headlines he's
gonna draw for himself, thinking himself the story the jet's
a non story in my opinion, quite frankly, because people say, oh,
if this is used as Air Force one, that's gonna
be bugged and we're gonna have national security compromise. It
(05:44):
wouldn't be ready for years A to be Air Force
one ready, and B Trumps already said that, you know,
if I do accept this, it's just gonna go in
my presidential library. So it's kind of a who cares
type of thing, like, okay, it's a as Trump said,
it's like a golf putt, and when you're told two
feet away from the whole, just pick up the ball.
It's a guinea. You take the guinea. You just don't
(06:04):
deny it. And then somebody wants to give us a
four hundred million dollars jet, All right, fine, Trump will
take it. And as we know, he's not gonna be compromised.
He's not gonna be bought. Donald Trump can't be bought.
He's gonna do what he's gonna do in the national
interest of this country, like we talked about. And if
this is gonna wun his presidential library, I say, who cares?
And Peter Alexander, this is why NBC News is really
just MSNBC without the MS at this point exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That was really well said, And Peter Alexander, the shame
of it is it was a stupid question. It really
was a dumb question. And he deserved to be called
on the carpet a lot by Donald Trump. But when
he goes back to NBC and the people that watch NBC,
they probably think he's a hero for that question.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh no, he's a victim. Actually, this is Donald Trump
stepping on the First Amendment and he's attacking the press,
the free and fair press, the free and fair press
that lied for four years about Joe Biden's condition or
refuse to cover it right. And now because there's a
book coming out and Jake Tapper wants to make more money,
I mean, how many yachts can you order? Skeevie Hinpalell,
(07:05):
how much is enough to quote Wall Street. Yeah. Again,
no one's a victim here and no one's a hero.
Quite frankly, this is how it works with news. Bad
questions get you rewarded, unfortunately over places like thirty Rock.
But this is why Box News right now, Larry, don't
leave it here, he to go. Box News is now
doubling CNN and MSNBC in primetime combined. So you take
(07:28):
their audiences, you double it, and we're still beating it.
So there's a reason for that because we actually have
a news division that reports facts while these guys are
all performance artists at these other places.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah. No, I agree with you one thousand percent. It
is interesting. Democratic politician after democratic politician they wear Donald
Trump going after them on their sleeves. I don't know
if you saw it, but Andrew Cuomo put out an
ad and it's an ad talking about the fact that
he's now being investigated by Donald Trump, so he thinks
(08:00):
this is a political win.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah. I mean, just like the Newark incident that we
saw ice agents being beat up by a New Jersey congresswoman,
right hitting them and then saying I'm the victim. Donald
Trump is targeting me, and then the media says, you're
targeting this woman. No, you hit a law enforce, law
enforcement officer. I don't care who it is, ice, police,
(08:23):
doesn't matter. You're gonna go to jail. It's that simple.
I don't care. If you're a Republican a Democrat, the
book should be thrown at you. And the fact that
the media is trying to make her a victim or
Letitia James New York who lied about her residency in
order to give better loans. Ironically enough, the things she
went after Donald Trump for, she deserves to be in
jail as well. If those allegations are true. The investigations
(08:45):
are absolutely warranted. And this is the way it works.
Accountability is back in stylary. And I'll leave it there.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, we'll leave it there completely. Joe Kantcha, Fox News contributor,
new book is the greatest comeback ever Inside Trump's Big
Beautiful campaign. A New York Times bestseller. As always, Thank you,
Joe
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Thank you, Mary Oka,
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