September 5, 2025 • 8 mins
Gary Myers talks with Mendte in the Morning about the beginning of the NFL Season and what he thinks about the Giants and Jets chances this year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We go, let's get this started. The football season is underway.
One o'clock on Saturday. The Steelers take on the Jets,
also at one o'clock. Excuse me, I'm meant Sunday on Sunday.
The Steelers and the Jets on Sunday. Also the Giants
and the Commanders. I hate when they both play at
(00:21):
the same time. That's awful. Luckily, there's some TV sets
where you can have split screen and you can watch
both and go back and forth and back and forth
and watch both of the games, or what is that
called red zone where they just tell you the best
plays on every single game. But what does this season portend?
For that? We go to Gary Myers, former NFL columnists
(00:44):
for the New York Daily News and author of the
brand new book Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate that's
being released on September sixteenth. Gary, thanks so much for
spending time with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Larry. How you doing today? I'm doing well. How do
you think the Jets and the Giants are doing well?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, I think the Giants are going to be
better this year. They'll get better play. A quarterback from
Russell Wilson, although he's just a placeholder until the rookie
Jackson Dart is ready to play. But they have improved
the team around the quarterback. Now they just need the
quarterback to step up and give him comping and play,
(01:26):
which they haven't gotten the last few years. But I
can see the Giants, you know, perhaps in December, still
being a contender for a wild card spot. I wouldn't
necessarily pick him to make the playoffs this year, but
I think it's gonna be a season that, at least
around Thanksgiving, there'll still be some interest. People are really
(01:47):
excited about Jackson Dart. He has a swagger about him,
and he looked really good in the preseason. Does that
carry over to a regular season, and if so, when
will we see him starting? Well, i'll answer the second part. First,
we'll see him if either Russell Wilson gets hurt or
if the Giants are struggling and they want to make
(02:08):
a change. Now they've listed Darts as a second string
quarterback on the depth chart, which I won't say that
I know anything different, but I am a little skeptical
that maybe because it's just surprising to me. If Wilson
was to get hurt on Sunday that they wouldn't go
to Jameis Winston, you know, a veteran, rather than going
to rookie right away. But I mean, I think they
(02:30):
should go to Dart. I like what I saw him
in the preseason, but nobody gain plans defensively in the preseason.
He's going against mainly second stringers because nowadays, nobody plays
in the preseason, and the speed of the game changes
completely when the regular season starts. So to say what
(02:52):
he did in August is going to carry over to September,
October or whenever this year. I think, you know, you
kind of you know, connecting, trying to connect the dots,
and they might not work.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But I do think he's gonna be a good player.
There's something I sought. I was just going to ask
you exactly what you said at the end. But there's
some things you can see right when you look at
a preseason game. It doesn't matter who he's playing against.
The decisions he make, Canny takes it. Can he take
a hit, Canny avoid a hit? Does he make those
passes in this tough situations? I think that he got
(03:26):
a's across the board in all of those things.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, I don't think the Giants could have asked anything
more to see in preseason games than they got from him.
And the thing I like about him, he seems to
be a leader that even the veterans gravitate towards him.
That he like you said that, he does have a
swagger about him. He broke all Eli Manning's records at
ole Miss. Giants have had good success with ole Miss quarterbacks,
(03:51):
going back to Charlie Connolly. He had good coaching in
college with Lane Kiffin, who's been an NFL coach. He's
been a big time college coach for a number of years.
He's an offensive coach, so he comes here with the
right pedigree. They made a great move moving back into
the end of their first round to take them and
now you just gotta wait.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They look brilliant by the way.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean, he's got to get on the field
at some point this season because they do want him
to start next year.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Now, Patrick Maho Mahomes is kind of the outlier where
as a rookie, he only played in his last the
last game of the regular season. Then he took over
the next year, second year, and he's been great ever since.
I think you want to get on the rookies on
the field a little earlier than the last game of
the year because you want to you know, he's gonna
have rough patches and if the Giants season, if the
(04:37):
Giants are not contenders by say mid November at the latest,
then you want him to get the bumps in the
road out of the way so he can hit the
ground running next year.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Absolutely. Let me tell you Jets fans. I'll get to
the Jets in one second. I want to talk about
one other player with Gary, and that is Abdul Carter.
I've been watching him play since high school really, and
then it pens state. He is special. I have never
seen anybody with that quick of a first step.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I mean, he looks like he's gonna be a
special player. And everybody wants to say, oh, he's the
next LT. We've been waiting for the next LT for
thirty years. Yeah, nobody's ever gonna be Lawrence Teller. But
he has some of the same traits and if they
can get he can be seventy five percent of Lawrence Teller,
and the Giants had a home run by drafting him.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Let's talk about the Jets because you're right, things are
looking better for them, but they've been looking better for
a long time. Every year was going to be their year,
and then there's been some disappointment, not of their own making,
because of injuries. So do you think this is it?
You just said a moment ago you think they're gonna
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, I didn't say that about the Jets. Oh okay,
I said that the Giants could possibly contend for a
wildcard spot. No, I don't think the Jets.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Make you see, I don't think the Giants are going
to compete for a wildcard spot. So when you said
wildcard spot, I assumed it was the Jets.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh that's a bad assumption on your part. I'm not
sold on Justin Fields as a quarterback at all. I mean,
he was born two for Pittsburgh last year and he
got bench win Russell Wilson, of all people, was healthy.
He had thrown for over two hundred yards just in
two of his six starts. The biggest problem with Justin
Fields as a quarterback is his ability to throw an
(06:20):
accurate pass, which is a big problem for a quarterback.
You want your quarterback to be accurate. He runs the
ball as well as anybody in the league except maybe
Lamar Jackson. But you can't win just relying on your
quarterback to run the ball. So it's another transition year
for the Jets. That don't want to fans don't want
to hear that. But with a new coach, new general manager,
(06:44):
I see the Jets winning five or six games. All Right,
we're gonna have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'll tell you what, we can make a gentleman's bet
because I think the Jets might make the playoffs and
the Giants will not make the playoffs and they're gonna
step forward. So that'll be a gentleman's bet between the
two of us. Because everybody has an opinion. Not as
accomplished as yours, but everybody has an opinion. Let's talk
about the new book. This is a fascinating topic, the
(07:11):
dynasty debate, Brady or Belichick. Let's skip right to the ending.
Who wins?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know, It's like it's like my book reports in
uh in junior high school, where I would write it out,
and of course I didn't read the book. And at
the end of the book, the end of the book Report,
I said, I'm not going to go I don't want
to give away the ending, you know, which is my
way of telling the teacher, I didn't read it, but
I'm trying to hide that from you. So but I
will say I don't think there's any doubt that it
(07:41):
was was Brady. The issue really is what percentage do
you want to was signed to each of them because
they couldn't have done it without each other. But ultimately,
when you evaluate a twenty year period, Brady was more important.
But you do have to read the book and get
to the ending to find out the percentages I signed
to each.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yes, thank you so much. Gary Meyer's former NFL columnist
for The Daily News, the author of the new book,
Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. It's being released on
September sixteenth. Can you pre order it?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, you can go to Amazon or wherever you like
to and get your online shopping.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sure,
We go, let's get this started. The football season is underway.
One o'clock on Saturday. The Steelers take on the Jets,
also at one o'clock. Excuse me, I'm meant Sunday on Sunday.
The Steelers and the Jets on Sunday. Also the Giants
and the Commanders. I hate when they both play at
(00:21):
the same time. That's awful. Luckily, there's some TV sets
where you can have split screen and you can watch
both and go back and forth and back and forth
and watch both of the games, or what is that
called red zone where they just tell you the best
plays on every single game. But what does this season portend?
For that? We go to Gary Myers, former NFL columnists
(00:44):
for the New York Daily News and author of the
brand new book Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate that's
being released on September sixteenth. Gary, thanks so much for
spending time with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Larry. How you doing today? I'm doing well. How do
you think the Jets and the Giants are doing well?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, I think the Giants are going to be
better this year. They'll get better play. A quarterback from
Russell Wilson, although he's just a placeholder until the rookie
Jackson Dart is ready to play. But they have improved
the team around the quarterback. Now they just need the
quarterback to step up and give him comping and play,
(01:26):
which they haven't gotten the last few years. But I
can see the Giants, you know, perhaps in December, still
being a contender for a wild card spot. I wouldn't
necessarily pick him to make the playoffs this year, but
I think it's gonna be a season that, at least
around Thanksgiving, there'll still be some interest. People are really
(01:47):
excited about Jackson Dart. He has a swagger about him,
and he looked really good in the preseason. Does that
carry over to a regular season, and if so, when
will we see him starting? Well, i'll answer the second part. First,
we'll see him if either Russell Wilson gets hurt or
if the Giants are struggling and they want to make
(02:08):
a change. Now they've listed Darts as a second string
quarterback on the depth chart, which I won't say that
I know anything different, but I am a little skeptical
that maybe because it's just surprising to me. If Wilson
was to get hurt on Sunday that they wouldn't go
to Jameis Winston, you know, a veteran, rather than going
to rookie right away. But I mean, I think they
(02:30):
should go to Dart. I like what I saw him
in the preseason, but nobody gain plans defensively in the preseason.
He's going against mainly second stringers because nowadays, nobody plays
in the preseason, and the speed of the game changes
completely when the regular season starts. So to say what
(02:52):
he did in August is going to carry over to September,
October or whenever this year. I think, you know, you
kind of you know, connecting, trying to connect the dots,
and they might not work.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But I do think he's gonna be a good player.
There's something I sought. I was just going to ask
you exactly what you said at the end. But there's
some things you can see right when you look at
a preseason game. It doesn't matter who he's playing against.
The decisions he make, Canny takes it. Can he take
a hit, Canny avoid a hit? Does he make those
passes in this tough situations? I think that he got
(03:26):
a's across the board in all of those things.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, I don't think the Giants could have asked anything
more to see in preseason games than they got from him.
And the thing I like about him, he seems to
be a leader that even the veterans gravitate towards him.
That he like you said that, he does have a
swagger about him. He broke all Eli Manning's records at
ole Miss. Giants have had good success with ole Miss quarterbacks,
(03:51):
going back to Charlie Connolly. He had good coaching in
college with Lane Kiffin, who's been an NFL coach. He's
been a big time college coach for a number of years.
He's an offensive coach, so he comes here with the
right pedigree. They made a great move moving back into
the end of their first round to take them and
now you just gotta wait.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They look brilliant by the way.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean, he's got to get on the field
at some point this season because they do want him
to start next year.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Now, Patrick Maho Mahomes is kind of the outlier where
as a rookie, he only played in his last the
last game of the regular season. Then he took over
the next year, second year, and he's been great ever since.
I think you want to get on the rookies on
the field a little earlier than the last game of
the year because you want to you know, he's gonna
have rough patches and if the Giants season, if the
(04:37):
Giants are not contenders by say mid November at the latest,
then you want him to get the bumps in the
road out of the way so he can hit the
ground running next year.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Absolutely. Let me tell you Jets fans. I'll get to
the Jets in one second. I want to talk about
one other player with Gary, and that is Abdul Carter.
I've been watching him play since high school really, and
then it pens state. He is special. I have never
seen anybody with that quick of a first step.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I mean, he looks like he's gonna be a
special player. And everybody wants to say, oh, he's the
next LT. We've been waiting for the next LT for
thirty years. Yeah, nobody's ever gonna be Lawrence Teller. But
he has some of the same traits and if they
can get he can be seventy five percent of Lawrence Teller,
and the Giants had a home run by drafting him.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Let's talk about the Jets because you're right, things are
looking better for them, but they've been looking better for
a long time. Every year was going to be their year,
and then there's been some disappointment, not of their own making,
because of injuries. So do you think this is it?
You just said a moment ago you think they're gonna
make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, I didn't say that about the Jets. Oh okay,
I said that the Giants could possibly contend for a
wildcard spot. No, I don't think the Jets.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Make you see, I don't think the Giants are going
to compete for a wildcard spot. So when you said
wildcard spot, I assumed it was the Jets.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh that's a bad assumption on your part. I'm not
sold on Justin Fields as a quarterback at all. I mean,
he was born two for Pittsburgh last year and he
got bench win Russell Wilson, of all people, was healthy.
He had thrown for over two hundred yards just in
two of his six starts. The biggest problem with Justin
Fields as a quarterback is his ability to throw an
(06:20):
accurate pass, which is a big problem for a quarterback.
You want your quarterback to be accurate. He runs the
ball as well as anybody in the league except maybe
Lamar Jackson. But you can't win just relying on your
quarterback to run the ball. So it's another transition year
for the Jets. That don't want to fans don't want
to hear that. But with a new coach, new general manager,
(06:44):
I see the Jets winning five or six games. All Right,
we're gonna have to agree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'll tell you what, we can make a gentleman's bet
because I think the Jets might make the playoffs and
the Giants will not make the playoffs and they're gonna
step forward. So that'll be a gentleman's bet between the
two of us. Because everybody has an opinion. Not as
accomplished as yours, but everybody has an opinion. Let's talk
about the new book. This is a fascinating topic, the
(07:11):
dynasty debate, Brady or Belichick. Let's skip right to the ending.
Who wins?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know, It's like it's like my book reports in
uh in junior high school, where I would write it out,
and of course I didn't read the book. And at
the end of the book, the end of the book Report,
I said, I'm not going to go I don't want
to give away the ending, you know, which is my
way of telling the teacher, I didn't read it, but
I'm trying to hide that from you. So but I
will say I don't think there's any doubt that it
(07:41):
was was Brady. The issue really is what percentage do
you want to was signed to each of them because
they couldn't have done it without each other. But ultimately,
when you evaluate a twenty year period, Brady was more important.
But you do have to read the book and get
to the ending to find out the percentages I signed
to each.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yes, thank you so much. Gary Meyer's former NFL columnist
for The Daily News, the author of the new book,
Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. It's being released on
September sixteenth. Can you pre order it?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, you can go to Amazon or wherever you like
to and get your online shopping.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sure,
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