Hour 2: Be careful, Kathy Hochul

Be careful, Kathy Hochul.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I hope you have great plans for the Labor
Day weekend, even if it just means taking the extra
day off the rest, that is also a great plan.
And it's going to be beautiful right throughout the weekend.
I hope you're able to enjoy it and get outside
a little bit, even if you plan to stay home,
and just you know, take care of your mental health

(00:22):
in the Big Three. Today, it's a day after that
horrific Catholic mass shooting at a church in Minneapolis, and
we're hearing stories in the wake of tragedy of absolute bravery.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Over the past day, I've heard many stories accounting the
swift and heroic actions of children and adults alike from
inside the church. Without these people and their selfless actions,
this could have been a tragedy of many magnitudes more
For these people, I'm thankful absolutely.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
And there were older children and sixth graders, seventh graders
that were protecting first graders and pushing them under pews
and sometimes laying on top of them. And some of
the people that laid on some of the younger children
actually took a bullet and they're okay, They're all okay.
There were two deaths, but unfortunately of younger children. Mayor

(01:21):
Eric Adams is taking a Trump like action after a
series of murders and shootings and the.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Bronx intended shooters hid an unintended target. And when bullets
fly because the gang disputes, it doesn't stop in poise
and say, okay, this is not a rival gang member,
or this is a rival gang member. It takes a life.
It takes the life of an innocent person.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Right. There was a dozen shootings in the Bronx, and
there was that horrible one last weekend at a basketball
court where five people were shot, three of them died.
And so he's sending a thousand troops. Huh, I wonder
what that sounds like. Andrew Cuomo is warning New Yorkers
that if Zurin Mamdani becomes mayor, President Donald Trump will

(02:07):
take over New York City.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
If Zoran Mandanmi became mayor, how long would it.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Be before he took control of New York City?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
A day, two days a week. In Chicago, there is
now a groundswell of support not from the Democratic politicians
who say no, no, no, we don't want any extra
help from Donald Trump, but from the people asking Donald
Trump to help fight crime in their city.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
We need to invite President Trump in, we invite the
National Guardian. You know, we've had two hundred and fifty
four deaths in two hundred and thirty three days. Eighty
percent of those have been black boys. And for anyone
in our community to say that things are getting better
and that people are safe, that is an outright lie.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
And with that, let's talk to Rob Bastorino, former Westchester
County executive host of The Rob Astorino Show on wo
R Saturday's four to five and host of four to
five PM and host of Saturday Agenda one to three
pm on Newsmax. And he's with us every Friday at
this time, Rob, I was looking forward to talking to
you because I.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Always look forward to talk to you. Larry, Why are
you only looking forward to talking to me just this day?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Because it's special? This is this is special today and
the other days weren't it special? But this is this
is really special because I and I know you'll have
a lot to say about this. I sit back in
kind of awe of Donald Trump and how he can
manipulate the media. It is amazing how he sent troops

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into into Washington, DC. He offered to send them to
other cities, knowing they were going to say no, putting
them on the wrong side of an issue and completely
changing the narrative across the country and making everybody react
to what he just did. He is a master at this.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Oh no, it's incredible. I mean he knows the right issue.
Look at the cracker barrel issue, for God's sake. So
I mean he puts a tweet out about cracker barrel
and you know, the next day they do what they
were supposed to do and really should never have done
in the first place. The crime issue is is a
it's a winner, and it's like a non starter for

(04:22):
the Democrats. How dare you come in here and try
to save lives? You know, it's our We're doing well
killing people and we should continue to do this. I mean,
it's like, it's so easy to see this. Brandon Johnson,
the mayor of Chicago, may be the biggest buffoon in
the world. But the fact that he is sitting there
and they all scream and yell, don't send us help. Now,

(04:44):
look what's going on California. Same thing. Knwsom did the
same thing. Bast did the same thing. And now now
it took Donald Trump to troll them and to threaten
to send in the troops, which of course he has
the power to do. We know that because you already
did that in Los Angeles. How all of a sudden,
they've got the resources the state that they're going to
send to Los Angeles to deal with the issue. He

(05:06):
not only trolls them and embarrasses them, he uncovers them. Basically,
he shines the light on their stupidity. And I think
I think this is going to have a profound fect
going forward. You can see, especially black men, right, they
moved not a major elite, but enough towards the Republican

(05:26):
Party last time. This is another issue that's going to
keep them walking towards Republicans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I worked for seven years in Chicago as a reporter
and anchor. I was out on the streets all of
the time. And I am stunned right now to see
in the inner city, in the black neighborhoods in Chicago,
women with MAGA hats yeah, and red shirts and community

(05:54):
leaders now coming out and saying against Democratic leadership, what
are you crazy?

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah? I mean, look, literally, their lives are on the
line and they're the party that they've been so faithful
to is saying, well, we don't care, you really need
you really should die for our party. And he's great
at exposing it. It's so true. Look at so you
know he's the big scandal is that the president, who

(06:21):
is in charge of the executive branch, is taking over
these agencies. I love the way the media, the media
doesn't realize how stupid that they are. So yesterday the
Daily News puts out a big thing and basically exposing
that Gloria Gaynor, you know, I Will Survive Gloria Gaynor.

(06:42):
Why we uncovered why she's going to be feted and
given the award by Donald Trump at the Kennedy Center,
which he took over, because she gave money to Maga Republicans. So,
in other words, she has no talent, apparently according now
to the left. I mean, you think about the songs
of the seventies. Gloria Gainers I Will Survive has played

(07:04):
at every freaking wedding, every you know you think of
the seventies. It's one of the top songs in disco.
So she's got she deserves, she deserved that award that
decade ago. But no Democrat gave it to her, but
all of a sudden, Donald Trump is going to give
her the honor she deserves. But now it's being tarred
and feathered because she happens to be a Republican.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I get it, and listen, I listen. I think he
knows everything. I think he knows that everything he does,
the Democrats are going to react to, even if it
puts them on the wrong side of an issue. And
it took him a while to learn that. But once
he learned that, he thought, I can use this, and
he does it over and over and over again. Apparently
even with Gloria Gainer. That was that was a great example.

(07:50):
But and how about the fact that nobody's talking about
Russia really anymore. No, nobody's talking about Israel. All they're
talking about is crime. And how about the fact that
Gavin Newsom now is sent thousand highway patrol officers to
cities and said, no, no, no, I'm not copying Donald Trump.
He also, by the way, Rob had it was in

(08:10):
his office for the first time ever, he invited the
press into his oval office. Who does that sound like?

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know?

Speaker 6 (08:21):
And he literally yesterday I think it was or the
day before Gavin Newsom. He was on some podcasts or something,
but he was doing his pretend to anger act and
talking about how literally democracy is at steak here. They
say they don't learn, which is great. Literally democracy is
at steak here. And on the ballot because Donald Trump

(08:44):
again trolling. I've got hats maga hats that say Donald
Trump twenty eight. He's gonna run and defy the constitution
like every fascist does. We have to stop him. It's
so great.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I love how you have the Gavin Knew some growled down.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
I don't have enough hair jail though, maybe not even
enough hair or.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Enough plastic surgery either.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
The guy doesn't take vacations. He takes medical leave every
single time. It's amazing how much work he has had done.
This has really changed the mayor's race, though, hasn't it.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Oh my god? You know, if these guys had any brains,
they would look towards Muriel Bowser of all people, right,
she I mean, she maybe reluctantly, but she came out
and admitted that Donald Trump has been pretty helpful to
DC right now with getting like three hundred guns off
the streets, all these arrests, these gangbangers, crime, there's been

(09:41):
no crime basically for the last week or so since
the troops have been in there. Now, you can't do
that forever, obviously, but it's a proof that you can
tackle issues, and she's had to reluctantly admit it. And
yet no other Democratic mayor will do the same or
governor because they've been exposed that their policy are literally
causing people to die and they're choosing to go with

(10:03):
the criminals. So it's been a great experiment that has
shined a light on an issue that you know, ninety
percent of the Republicans and ninety percent of people and voters.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Agree with absolutely. Rob Estorino, host of The Rob Astorino
Show on WOR Saturday's four to five pm and host
of Saturday Agenda one to three pm on Newsmax's with
Us every Friday at seven oh five. And I really
look forward to talking to you next week, Rob.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, one of these days are I want to see
you in the studio on my show and you know,
wandering about the city one day. I know you wander
about the city on the weekends.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, I will be able to next weekend. Let's do
it next weekend. If you're had.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
That's good. It's a date, all right.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Producer Chris Schweitzer, who's in for Natalie Vaka, just recently
got back from Ireland where he saw Oasis. Did he
know Oasis was coming here? Did he know there's a
new Oasis pop up store. We'll tell Chris and you
where it is next. Thanks so much for your talk facts.
You're always great and we really appreciate it. You go
to the iHeartRadio app look for seven to ten woor

(11:02):
You hit the talk back button when you're there. Actually
it's a microphone. You record what you want to say.
By the way, you can rerecord it. You don't have to.
If you mess up, you can just do it again.
You can do it as many times as you want,
and then you send it in.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
I don't want to hear one Democrat talk about gun control.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
We had Biden who pardoned his son on three gun charges.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Hypocrisy, it's all hypocrisy.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yet you know I have I've specifically not talked about
gun control during this whole thing because I didn't want
to do exactly what the Democrats are doing. I guess
it's time to we can do it now before they
got bodies out of the church. It was sick. It
was sick because you know they do it for political reasons.
That's it. Amy Klobashar should be booted out of office.

(11:49):
Gavin Newsom Jensaki from MSNBC. First thing, first thing they said,
and then they belittled those that were praying. It shows
you who they are. All they think about is politics
and they are absolutely godless. That's the only person, the

(12:10):
only type of person that would think of something like
that while they're still pulling bodies out of the church.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
I'm listening. I'm listening. Don't stand so close to me.
I'm listening. I'm listening too.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Very mean. That's funny, all right. So here's the reason
we got that. I should have set that up better.
We were talking about Leticia White, who is a person
who works as a clerk over in Promised New Jersey
at the shop, right, and she's gone viral with her songs.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
Here's Letitia, I'm shopping, I'm rocking this where I wanna be,
So those.

Speaker 9 (13:01):
Do stand?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Do stand so close to me?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
She did that during the pandemic, and that's when she
became a star. She has five hundred thousand followers, and
that was seen by millions of people? So who did
it better?

Speaker 8 (13:21):
I'm listening. I'm listening. Don't stand so close to me.
I'm listening. I'm listening too.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
Very man, I think they both get points too close
to call it is.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's way too close to call. Although he mentioned my name.

Speaker 10 (13:39):
So yeah, he's talking about us, so I think he
gets absolutely, he gets the edge for that.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
So.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
By the way, Chris Weitzer is in for Natalie Vodka.
You went all the way to Ireland to see Oasis. Tremendous.
It sounds like a great trip. It was insane. You
knew they were coming here.

Speaker 10 (13:56):
I did well when we bought the tickets, I didn't
but like I knew, but when they when we bought
the tickets for Ireland, they had to announced the US
toy yet.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
So are you going? I'm going Sunday? Yes? Are you
really to be there Sunday? It's amazing.

Speaker 10 (14:11):
I mean, you know they were, they were broken up
for fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I wasn't sure if I'd ever be able to see them.
So there's two shows sold out right, two shows at
Metlight man Netlife Stadium. Two shows sold out. That shows
you how big they are and they're so big that
there is a pop up store now, Yes, in.

Speaker 10 (14:27):
Astoria, right, Uh, so Ho in Soho one O seven
Grand Street and Soho.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
That's right, You're absolutely right. It's in Soho and it's
been crowded almost every single day. They're selling out of stuff.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
Yes, the line was around the corner when I went.
I went opening day Saturday, last Saturday. I was number
four and I got there seven thirty in the morning.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It opened a ten. Wow, he is all in.

Speaker 10 (14:52):
They had They had things that I wanted to buy.
I don't think that they couldn't buy in Dublin because
they sold out in Dublin because I got there. I
we landed like three days after the store opened. So
here's two people that did the opposite of what you did.
You traveled all the way overseas to see them. They're
now traveling back this way. They want to see them.

(15:12):
They're from northern England, were from where Oasis is from.
We went to the first of a gig when I
was thirteen fourteen and I'm now forty three, so it's
been a long journey.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oasis came and made it really aspirational to be working
class and from the north, and that Kate kind of
gave us an identity.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah. I remember when Oasis first came out. I was
working at Access Howie Would and we had people on
the air saying they were going to be the next Beetles.
That's how big they were at the time.

Speaker 10 (15:41):
If they didn't hate each other for the last twenty years,
they might have been.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Well. The Beatles ended up hating each other too.

Speaker 10 (15:47):
Ye, maybe they were more like the Beetles that we thought.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
It just took longer than they did with Oasis. Now,
let's get the News at seven thirty with Jacqueline Carl Jacqueline.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Larry, Good Morning. Official say the person who opened fire
on praying Minneapolis school students on Wednesday was obsessed with
the idea of killing children. Two children were killed and
nearly twenty others injured when Robin Westman started shooting through
the windows of the Annunciation Church. Acting US Attorney from Minnesota,

(16:18):
Joe Thompson said the twenty three year old shooter hated everyone,
including black people, Mexicans, Christians, Jews, and President Trump. Westman
also idolized notorious school shooters in US history, and flyers
are hoping things go smoothly at Newark airport for the
holiday getaway after a ground stop yesterday caused massive disruption.

Speaker 11 (16:41):
Officials say communication issues between air traffic controllers and pilots
forced a ground stop for incoming flights Thursday and triggered
delays the rest of the day. Right as the holiday
weekend rush got underway. Beth's flight was delayed.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
You're gonna get to Atlanta and be stuck there for
about another five hours if that flight is still there.

Speaker 11 (17:01):
Newark Airport has been plagued by disruptions in recent months
because of equipment and low staffing issues. Port authority is
expecting a record high number of travelers that pass through
it's airports for the holiday weekend, which includes Newark. I'm
Skatpringle WRDWS.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
So, according to Yahoo News, apparently, Larry, you're going to
want to hear this because I know you've got a
couple of gen zs at home. Apparently gen Zers have
been judged by some as lazy and financially irresponsible, which
I don't find at all. But NYU professor Suzy Welch
sees the gen Z crowd in a completely different light
and has great sympathy for the attitudes they've developed Welch

(17:36):
says their generational attitude boils down to a belief that
they've got quote no reason to think they're ever going
to have economic security. In addition, there's a thought that
there's no point in climbing the corporate ladder in the
midst of an impending environmental crisis, along with sky high
student loans, a growing wealth gap, and home ownership becoming
a pipe tree. These pessimistic views given the lazy moniker

(18:00):
by some, but now have some stepping in to have
gen zs back, And I'm one of them because any
gen Z that I've ever worked with has been self starters,
need very little, you know, oversight, and really work hard
and plan for their financial future. What do you think, Larry,
with your gen zs and the people.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
You've met, Well, first of all, I don't think you
can ever paint an entire generation with a broad brush.
I mean, it's ridiculous every single time it happens, except
possibly with the greatest generation because they fought World War Two,
so maybe I guess everybody didn't, but the big majority did.
I will say this about gen Z being around them

(18:40):
all the time, not only my sons, but all their friends.
They it is so common for an older generation to
degrade a younger generation like, oh, these kids, they know nothing.
These kids are so much smarter than we are. Totally agree,
they are so much smarter, and they are very skeptic
the goal. It's going to be really interesting when they

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take over, are you gen z Chris?

Speaker 10 (19:05):
I don't know what I am honestly, I want to
say though I don't think I'm lazy, but financial irresponsibility, irresponsibility.
After what I did at the Oasis story last week,
I think I might be financially irresponsible again.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
That was just something I don't know. Astment, I mean,
I don't know about that.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Could be worth tons you, that could be your retirement, you.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Don't know selling it. Oh no, this is when you
do that stuff. I was jealous, man, I was completely
jealous of you when I heard that. No, not at all,
Thanks so much, Jacqueline Carl. The war in Ukraine rages on,
while chance of a peace deal seems to be fading.
So what's next. We'll talk with wo R National correspondent

(19:48):
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(20:36):
We got Rory O'Neil coming up in the next segment
to talk about the war in Ukraine that nobody seems
to be talking about anymore. Because everybody's talking about crime.
That's become the big issue in as long as it's
the big issues or in. Mamdani is hurting because he
is soft on crime. He has not been able to
rectify that, and he's not been able to shake that moniker.

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So I don't know what's going to happen with him
as long as the topic is crime. Because it exposes
his greatest weakness, and everybody else in the race knows that.
And now you have all these shootings in the Bronx
and the grandmother killed in Harlem, and so it's going

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to be an issue now for a long long time.
And I'll tell you what, Andrew Cuomo. I know everybody
says he's the guy that can beat Mom Donnie, but
he keeps taking time off on this race, just like
he did when he blew the primary by not taking

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Mom Donny seriously until the very end and really not
running a professional campaign, taking too many days off. We
started to take days off again. And even when he
does talk, you know what, he's lost his fastball. Here
he is talking about crime.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Five shootings in the Bronx.

Speaker 11 (22:00):
Of August. He was being an elected official in the
Bronx yesterday and he said the Bronx is turning into
the old King Karat.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, there were way more than five shootings in the
Bronx in August. There were five shootings last weekend. There
were twelve this week. And so I'm telling you the
guy has just lost it. He has He's not the
same guy he used to be. I mean, I didn't

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like the guy he was before, except that he was
a much better candidate than he is this time around.
He's one of the reasons we're gonna have zorin mom
Donny because he didn't run an effective campaign in the primaries,
and now he's just stumbling once again. Now, Mayor Adams,

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he was in the.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Bronx in shooters hid an unintended target. And when bullets
fly because the gang disputes, it doesn't stop in poise
and say, Okay, this is not a rival gang member,
or this is a rival gang member. It takes a life.
It takes the life of an innocent person.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's talking specifically about the shooting at a basketball game.
I'll tell you what. Gang members are awful shooters. They
have awful aim. They never seem to hit each other.
They always hit somebody that just happens to be there,
or somebody that's sitting in a park bench. It is
unbelievable that they kill so many people who are not

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in the rival gangs. And that's what happened last weekend
when three people died over a fight over a basketball game,
just because they were rival gangs. It's stunning. And then
in the Bronx still more shootings all during the week.
So that is the issue, and you'd think Curtis Leewill

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would be able to get a little bit more traction.

Speaker 12 (24:01):
So yesterday I spent my day in the Bronx because
the blood is flowing there. The Mayor should have been
here yesterday along with the Police Commissioner, promising that they
would flood this sector with additional police officers and not
choosing to do that. The governor has had her becking
call National guardsmen. She's already put a thousand in the subways.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh yeah, that's not gonna happen. Nobody's sending the National
Guardian anywhere now now that Trump's done it. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
that's a big no no, even though it makes complete sense, Curtis,
it's not going to happen because nobody wants to look
too much like Donald Trump. But Mayor Adams, did hear you.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
We have a thousand new offices in the Bronx and
we're going to ensure that they're in the hotspots. We're
going to get on the be on the ground to
talk with IM partner without crisis Management team so he
could identify some of the gang rivalry.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, he showed up a day late, but not a
dollar short. By the way, Curtis Lee has been there
like the last four days, he goes where the crime is,
unlike the other candidates, Mom, Donnie. Now he's been trying
to run away from the issue completely and everybody wants
to talk to him about it. You notice he's not

(25:25):
in front of the cameras all the time like he
used it to be. Everything he's protected. He gave a
speech during Al Sharpton's march yesterday and had limited questions
he would answer, but what he did answer was about crime.
My vision for public safety is the one that I've
shared over the course of this campaign.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
It's one that will not defund the police.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's one that will work with police officers to create
through public safety. He's changing everything now, he's hiding all
his ridiculous policies. But you know, once he gets into office,
that's what he believes, that's what he's going to do.
That's why he's so scary.

Speaker 13 (26:00):
He wants to let people out of rightchers. He doesn't
want people locked up. Permission to mean us.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
He said that over and over.

Speaker 13 (26:06):
But now he's going to do the pivot and ship
that is his achilles heel. His strength is obviously affordability
costs the living.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, everybody knows what Mom Donnie's doing. He's running away
from what he believes. He's basically for the first time,
I'll give him credit. He didn't do it till now.
He's lying to you.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Public safety's on a ballot when you have a candidate
that says prostitutions should be legal, and our city where
young boys and girls sell their bodies, that's not the
city I want to live in.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Right, I'm going to play this next little sound bite
only so you can hear how Al Sharpton introduce Mom Donnie.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Let's hear it from Zoran Mendanny.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, Zoran, ma'm Danny. Let's hear it for him. All right.
When we come back, everybody seems to be ignoring the
war in Ukraine and the possibility of sea stocks. We're
not going to We're going to talk to wo R
reporter National reporter Rory O'Neil about that next. Now, let's

(27:08):
bring in wo R National correspondent with us every day
at this time, Rory O'Neill, Good morning, Rory. You got
big plans this weekend.

Speaker 9 (27:18):
Not too much you know, it's still summer down here,
and we even tried to have college football last night
and that got interrupted by one of those summer thunderstorms.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So yeah, we're not We're still in.

Speaker 9 (27:28):
The throes of summer for another Oh, I don't know
eight weeks.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
What game was that.

Speaker 9 (27:33):
You see at the University of Central Florida playing Jacksonville State.
You have pulled out a victory, which they should have
in the end after a two hour lightning delay.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Wow. We have been marveling during this show, by the way,
about how Donald Trump's are not about you. Maybe we'll
wait and see about you. We'll see how you do today. Yes, no,
we've been marveling at how Donald Trump can pipulate the
media so easily and just change the topic completely. Everybody

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was talking about Ukraine. Everybody was talking about the ceasefire.
It wasn't going his way, and now we're talking about crime.
It's because that's all he's talked about, and now it's
dominates the conversation across the across the country and nobody's
talking about Ukraine except you, So tell us what's going on.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
We thought it was to pivot away from Epstein, right
that we've got these other topics. But yeah, you know,
today marks two weeks since the big meeting in Alaska
with presidents Putin and Trump, and things may have actually
gotten worse this week. Russia launching some of its most
aggressive attacks. What nearly six hundred drones launched into Ukraine

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in the past thirty six hours, with missiles as well.
We saw at least twenty three people killed. Even the
EU offices, the European Union office in Kiev was hit
by this attack. So we've got a big meeting today
with leaders or members of the Trump administration traveling to
New York to meet with representatives of the Ukrainian team

(29:08):
to try to see what's next here. But having that bilateral,
even a trilateral meeting, now that doesn't seem to be
in the cards for anyone.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
No, it doesn't. And so Donald Trump, I don't know
what's so magic about two weeks. It's now been two
weeks that he threatened sanctions before the talks with Putin
and got him to the table. Now he's threatening again
two weeks. What's going to happen in two weeks? Do
we know?

Speaker 9 (29:33):
Yeah, we really don't. And you know the fact that
Russia has ramped up. This aggression clearly has to be frustrating.
President Trump, who you know at the time, is saying,
I think Putin wants peace.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think he wants peace.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
Well, here's evidence that maybe he doesn't, and that instead
he wants to drag his feet and continue this. Remember,
Russia has been in the middle of this summertime offensive
and it's gotten a lot of success for Russia, and
I think that's what's continuing. I think that's what Putin
wants to continue. And as President Trump says, oh, we're
going to have secondary tariffs on India and China, even

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some of those tariffs taking effect against India, the fear
as well is that all it does is drive China
and Russia, or China and India closer to Russia.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
How is that to play that out? Tell me how
that works.

Speaker 9 (30:19):
Well, Russia's got oil, right, and Russia doesn't have any
other customers on the planet at this point, So now
they are selling cheaper oil with their two customers, China
and India, who are lining up to buy the cheap oil.
So now, if you're threatening these sanctions on India in particular,
which you know, it's a democracy mostly English speaking, has

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a lot of.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Ties to the US, but you're going to turn a
lot of their.

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Attention now towards Russia because they can see a lot
of business opportunities there as well, and top of the
list is getting access to that cheap energy.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
But they were already doing business with Russia. That's the
whole reason for their tariffs. They were already getting most
of their gas and oil from Russia. So I think
what Donald Trump's looking at is I want to stop that.
And that's why it was so interested in what you said,
because I'm not sure it could exacerbate it anymore than
it is already, you know, unless they're going to do

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other trade with Russia. But there aren't that many other
products that come from Russia. We certainly don't have a lot,
which is why people say maybe these tariffs wouldn't even
work against Russia because we don't import a lot from them,
do we, right, No.

Speaker 9 (31:27):
Fertilizer is a big one though, So this has been
a big issue for farmers in the US that fertilizer
lizer prices have gone up because a lot of the oil,
the kind of oil that Russia can get a lot
of that is used for the production of fertilizers, so
that has gone up in cost a lot for American farmers,
So that has been one big issue. But yeah, it's
still an emerging market by some accounts because the Russian

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economy is so topsy turvy right now. But yeah, I
think the concern is that you see to have this
alliance of China in the North Korea all working more
closely together and breaking away from the US.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, we will hold our breath and I guess it's
what a week and a half now we have to
wait to see what's going to happen, and we'll talk
to you again then about it. Have a great.

Speaker 9 (32:15):
Weekend, Thanks Larry, talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
All right. Thanks Roory O'Neill, wor National correspondent. He's going
to be back on Monday morning at seven point fifty. Well,
I'm sure you've heard about this. There is this revolt
going on at the CDC. They had a huge walkout
yesterday because RFK Junior is cleaning house. We'll talk about
that and much more with ri Kline from ABC News,

(32:40):
the Washington Bureau Chief and find out what's coming on
this week coming up after the eight o'clock news