Hour 2: Birthright citizenship

Birthright citizenship.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well as always, thank you so much for listening. This morning,
just a reminder if you haven't left the house yet,
it is cold this morning, coldest day of the season
so far, so make sure you bundle up a little bit.
It's going to be cold all day. By the way,
It's gonna warm up tomorrow, but today is a bad

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one in the Big Three. Well, if you've ever been
to San Francisco or Los Angeles, you've seen the homeless encampments.
They started here. Mayor Adams got rid of him. But
Mayor alexoramm Donnie says, and by the way, he didn't
say this when he campaigned, says, when he gets into office,
he's going to stop those cities sweeps of the homeless

(00:44):
encampments in New York. If you are not connecting homeless
New Yorkers to the housing that they so desperately need,
then you cannot deem anything you're doing to be a success.
Right now, he says, he's going to provide free housing
for the homeless rather than have these sweeps. Did he
mention that during the campaign that he was going to
have free housing for the homeless as well? Just another

(01:08):
thing he will not be able to pay for a
sixty eight year old man in Jamaica, Queen's just crossing
the street is hit and killed by a moped and
his daughter is well, she's not only devastated, she's angry.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So when I heard it was head trauma, I was
mad because I'm like, this person hit my dad, had
him died with one of the best brains anybody could
want to, you know, have.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, we should all be angry that they allow these
mopeds and e bikes to just do whatever they want
on the streets and people keep getting hit. The city
will say to you, oh, no, no, no, it's way down.
It's way down. It's way down because we have been better,
not the bikes, not the e bikes, of the mopeds. Well,

(01:55):
the police who responded to the call in out Tuna
are now going to be on the stand today as
that pre trial to look at evidence and witnesses continue.
You'll remember last week we got to hear the nine
to one one tape.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
See's still in the back of our lobbie by the
bath firm, wearing a black sweater jacket with a medical
mask and a tan khaki color like Beanie. You have
some Beanie pulled down so it's the only thing he
can see is his eyebrows.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, it was the eyebrows that got him. Seriously, if
you see the video of him, he's got a mask
all the way up to the bottom of his eyes,
he's got a beanie all the way down to his eyebrows.
They got him just with those eyebrows, and they are
some pretty darn prominent eyebrows. There's a new survey out

(02:51):
that Newark Liberty International Airport is the most stressful airport
in the country, and a lot of people at Newer
Liberty International disagree vehemently.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I do not agree with that statement. Coming to Newark
was so easy. I just got hit from Austin getting
through the terminal. Just follow the signs, air ning is
lit up. Mix it so easy.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
We really have any complications.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Our bags came pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Everything was kind of self explanatory.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah. I think a lot of it must have just
been from all the bad publicity it got. Remember that
for a while when they were having problems and big delays,
and it was because the communication lines and the air
traffic controllers couldn't hear a lot of the planes, so
they had to make that delays. That's what it's got
to be. Let's talk to Mike Kelly about it. Mike
Kelly is an award winning columnist for North Jersey dot

(03:42):
Com and The Record. He is with us every Monday
at this time. Mike, I'm sure you fly in and
out of Newark Liberty International all of the time. Do
you find it stressful?

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Oh, good morning, Larry. No, I don't. Actually I find it,
you know, quite easy. As a matter of fact. The
big problem is once you reach the rest of New
Jersey with all the on the road.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, I don't get it at all. When I heard
about that survey that of all the airports in the country,
of all the major airports in the country, they found
New Jersey Liberty International, I don't even find it the
most stressful in our area. I think JFK and Laguardi
is much worse. That's why I love to go to Newark.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think one of the problems here
is that we live in an extremely congested area and
we only really have three major airports. Probably ought to
have more, maybe a little bit farther out, but we don't.
And this is the way it works, you know. I
think they've done the best they can with Newark's. It's
a really busy, busy place, but whatever I fly in

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and out, it seems relatively smooth. You know, I haven't
had had these you know, you hear about these five
hour delays that sort of thing, or or you know,
somebody's just their flights are canceled. I haven't had that experience.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yet, yeah, either of I And I love the fact
that you can just take the train right there and
get off and walk in and be in the airport.
I think everything about that airport is convenient, and I've
never had a problem there. And I don't know what
these people are talking about. As I said, I'm sure
it was just because they had the problems earlier in
the year, and maybe that's some residue from that because

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of the memory.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
These were the same surveys, Larry that predicted that Mikey
Cheryl might have a close race with Jack.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's a very good point, you know, and also.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
That you know, Hillary Clinton would have beaten Donald Trump
in twenty sixteen, and god knows what.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Us right, Yeah, yeah, yeahs are.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Not always correct. I think we needed to accept that
as Americans.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, but then we wouldn't have anything to talk about
so we have to we have to accept them. I
love that you did a column on Jim Riches. We
actually talked about him on the air last week when
he died, but it's worth talking more about him because
we did this story as best as we could. But
your column was wonderful.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, thank you, Larry. You know, Jim Riches and some
of the other firefighters that I've met down at Ground
zero and stayed in touch with, These are really terrific people.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
You know.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
I hesitate to throw the word hero around, but these
guys are heroes. Jim Riches was a deputy chief in
the FDNY and his son was His son was a firefighter,
followed his father's into the FDNY, and his son was
killed on nine to eleven. He was a member of
He was part of a firehouse in Midtown Manhattan. This

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is the firehouse that handles all the you know, emergencies
on Broadway and Times Square. Fifteen firefighters from that firehouse
lost their lives on nine to eleven, and so Jim
decided that he was going to go to work at
Ground zero and search for his son's remains. He wanted

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to bring his son home and he became part of
a group of other firefighter fathers who lost their sons,
and they called themselves the Band of Dads, I guess,
sort of a play on the Band of Brothers. And
these guys were down there every day helping trying to
find their son's remains. But what I found so interesting

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is after some of these guys found their son's bodies
or other pieces that they stayed on and they helped
other people to find their relative's remains and did the
best they could. And then, of course Jim Richards, who
was a big, strapping guy. You know, I breathed in
way too many toxins down at Ground zero, as many

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people did, and he had severe respiratory problems and that's
how he died on Thanksgiving Day of all days.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, I'm so glad that you did that. By the way,
if you want to see the column that he did,
go to North Jersey dot com and look for Mike Kelly.
You can just search it there and you're gonna find it.
Jim Riches or Mike Kelly, you'll come up with it.
It is definitely worth the read. I just can't believe,
Mike that at this point that these first responders are

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still fighting for funding after all these years. I don't
know if you know, but when I was at WPIX,
I did commentary after commentary on this, and they ran nationally.
But I was on the buses going down there with them,
and I as I looked around the room and I
saw people that couldn't walk, I saw people that had
breathing problem. I thought, why do they have to go

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through this? Why do they have to get on buses
once every couple of months to go to Washington to
beg for money after they many of them volunteered on
nine to eleven. I'm thinking of myself, don't they don't
these lawmakers understand that if they don't take care of
these people, know, nobody's ever going to show up again.

(09:02):
Why would you?

Speaker 6 (09:04):
That's a really good point you make, Larry. You know
I've been writing about this subject as well. I think
the world needs to accept some a basic, stark fact,
and that is five thousand people men, women, cops, firefighters,
construction workers, all these folks that volunteered at Ground zero,

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five thousand people have died from health problems after the
nine to eleven attacks. Now, when these roughly three thousand
people were killed on nine to eleven, but since then,
we've had five thousand died of all kinds of respiratory problems, cancers,
really bizarro cancers, that sort of thing. And there are

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now thirty six thousand people dealing with cancer as a
result of this. So we're looking at a whole generation
of debts here that are the rest of our nation.
I don't think is really accepting or even willing to
look at. And I think it kind of reflects the
fact that so much of our nation's politics today is

(10:08):
rooted in very very you know, is very siloed in
you know, separate issues, separate part of the absolutely and
a lot of people down in the South and Southwest
and in the western part of our United States just
they don't want to they just want to ignore New York.
But on nine to eleven, New York really stepped up.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah. Absolutely, Now they're paid for it. Yeah, And people
came from all over the country. It affected every state.
Mike Kelly is an award winning columnist from with Jersey
dot Com and The Record. He's with us every Monday
at seven oh five. Thanks Mike again, great column. There's
a bedtime drink going viral that claims to keep you
asleep all night? What is it? Does it really work?

(10:49):
The secret next plus tickets to see the Rascals Rocking
the Holidays concert at A twenty five the second the
exact same thing you are listening to me, which, let's
be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is
adds on the talkbacks have been great so far. And
as I look at the board right now, I see
that you have so many different topics that were dealt

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with today, and you want to talk about all of them.
If you want to get involved, you go to the
iHeartRadio app. Look for seven to ten wor then there's
a talkback section with a microphone. You hit it, record
what you want to say, and then we'll play you
on the air.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
I walked in the city recently and these guys were
just slipping through traffic, not paying attention to any anything whatsoever.
One guy is going down so fast and he zipped
right in front of me.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
I was on the sidewalk.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
He went through the red light and he crashed into
another e bike.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh he crashed. Thank god, I'm happy he crashed, although
I hope the other guy was okay.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
You know, I'm sure you get this a lot you know,
we both work in the city. We travel in every day.
So I have a lot of friends at home who
will be coming in, you know, they don't come in regularly,
and they'll ask my advice, Oh where can I go here?
How do I get there? And they I'll give them
some advice or whatever. And one things I always say,
whether driving or walking, is to be.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Careful of the e bikes.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
Oh yeah, I said, just whatever you do, even if
you're crossing the street, please keep your eyes open. And
if you're driving, do not assume that there's not any
bike the sit behind you.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
In any moment you go up to a green light,
you have to look both ways. Yes, and by the way,
it's a one way street, you better look the other
way because they might come zipping out. And of course
it's gonna be your fault. It's gonna be You're gonna
won't be the one that's good blames if you hit somebody. Now,
it's it's a scourge on the city, and the fact
that the city keeps ignoring it is horrible. It is

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a crime that they do that.

Speaker 9 (12:53):
Hey, Larry, I was ten years old when John Lennon
was shot, and I remember when I heard about it.
I turned on the radio and the first thing that
came on was the part of we Can Work It
Out where it says life is very short, and boy,
I got the chills and I have them.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
To this day. Yeah, I'm gonna have to play that
Howard Cosell thing in the Big Three because I want
everybody to remember that this is the day. But you're right,
I mean it was. It was stunning, remember, because why
would that have happened? He was still fairly young, living
in New York City, but then he had a guy,

(13:26):
just a crazy stalker that was after him.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Larry, you just started to worry me.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
For the last two weeks. You've been talking about Mangoni's
eyebrows obsessively. What's going on, Larry, I've been talking about
Mangioni's not Mongoni. Mangione's eyebrows obsessively. Have I been obsessive.

Speaker 8 (13:52):
Over his eyebrows most part of the stories?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
So you had to tell it. He has these Eugene Levy,
Martin Scorsese, the eyebrows that are thick, they look like
they could be ahead of hair. And because he doesn't
trim them, how could he be that diabolical where he
planned everything and wrote it all down, and he was
obsessive on his getaway, and Hallie was going to do this,

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and then he forgot to trim his eyebrows. Yes, I'm
obsessed with that. I'm obsessed with how could he be
that dumb when he's that smart.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Try not to think of Kermit the Frog the next
time you play a clip of Mom Donnie. He's worse
than Patrick Mahomes. Oh my god. Listening to him on
the radio, it could be Kermit the Frog. They're talking
and the stuff he says might as well be.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's really good. We're gonna have to get some We'll
get Mahomes, we'll get Kermit the Frog, and we'll get
Mom Donnie and we'll play all three of them to
see how much they all sound like. That was a
good call. Hey, thanks so much for you talk about
keep them coming. Well. Have you heard about this viral
trend they're talking about her on social media a lot.
It's called the Spirit Zero Sleep Trials, and apparently it

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has started with a guy NFL coach by the way,
Pritique Patel, who claimed on x that the SODA's mix
of electrolytes, carbonated water, and no caffeine helps him sleep longer.
Patel also promoted his own supplement, but most just latched

(15:31):
onto the cheaper Spirit zero option, And so people have
tried it across the country and there's been mixed results.
A lot of people are very enthusiastic, saying I slept
through the night by the way. It helps you sleep
through the night and not get up and pee all
the time, apparently. But then a lot of people said

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they had alternatives, like I just smoke a.

Speaker 10 (15:56):
Joint right.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Sprite zero of all things, like where did that come
up from? Like who started it?

Speaker 10 (16:04):
Why?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
What could be in it? Apparently there's some science to it.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
I mean there's no caffeine in sprite and there's no
sugar if it's sprayed zero, and.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
The electrolytes apparently absorbed water, which I had never heard before.
And a lot of people were saying this is just
unproven mad science. But I'm gonna try it because I
get up in the night, and so I'll give it
a shout. I'll let you know, I'll let you know
if it works. Now, let's get the Larry Kowsky in
for Jack Linkara with the seven thirty News.

Speaker 11 (16:32):
Larry, Well, good morning, Larry twenty seven degrees turning mostly
cloudy at seven thirty. Luigi Mangione back in Manhattan Criminal
Court later this morning as pre trial hearings resume. His
lawyers are trying to get evidence against against him thrown
out as he faces murder charges for allegedly gunning down
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside of Midtown Hotel last year.

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Atlantic City Mayor Marty Small going on trial later this morning.
He's charged with child abuse for allegedly beating his teenage daughter.
The Supreme Court set to hear arguments today in a
high profile case over whether President Trump can fire members
of an independent agency, going around protections designed to protect
those agencies from political pressure. It stems from Trump's firing

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of Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, a member of the Federal Trade Commission,
and Netflix planned to buy Warner Brothers Discovery may face
resistance from the White House. Speaking Sunday at the Kennedy Center,
President Trump said the deal could be a problem considering
Netflix already significant share of the streaming market and Larry
and iconic Brooklyn Diner begins its new life on the

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big screen today. The Wife Diner is being permanently installed
at Steiner Studios in the Navy Yard, where it will
become a movie set. It was moved by flatbed over
the weekend from two twenty five Wife Avenue, where it
had stood since nineteen sixty eight. The Diner no stranger
to the silver screen. It's been seen over the years
in movies including The Good Shepherd and Men in Black three.

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The diner's former site is set for redevelopment into an
apartment complex.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
It is amazing how much these diners make. I used
to do the commentaries that Dead picks, and we'd go
to diners a lot and they would say, well, Law
and Order has been in here, this movie's been in here.
Diners in Manhattan, if they especially have a certain look,
can make a lot of money and become as you said,
Larry iconic.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
I'm so glad you did this story today because I
saw the videos of them lifting this, you know, one
of those silver bullet kind of looking diners, and I
was like, Oh, I wonder what's happening, and they're just
moving it. You know, obviously they're going to build something
else there. But I didn't realize they were bringing it
to a movie.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Set for a permanent spot.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Because how many movies have you seen that have a
diner scene?

Speaker 6 (18:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'm so many? Many on TV shows?

Speaker 12 (18:52):
Two.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I mean, you know, look at Seinfeld. I think that
was in a studio though I'm pretty sure Seinfeld was
a Sopranos was and of course, yeah, but I think
i'd love to know if you know the answer to
that question. Go ahead and leave us a talk back.
But we can go through some other famous restaurants and
sites that you see in movies a lot. Go ahead
and leave us a talkback. Thanks a lot, Larry, Larry Kowski.

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Warner Wolf is coming up next, and guess what he
has some good football news, and man, could we use
it with the Giants and the Jets. Of course, the
Giants didn't lose this weekend. That was some good news.
Warner Wolf is next. All right, let's get right to
the legend himself. A lot going on in sports. He's
got a lot to talk about. Warner Wolf, legendary sportscaster

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with us every Monday at this time. Take it away, Warner.

Speaker 12 (19:40):
All right, Thank you, Larry. Second baseman Jeff Kent, the
only one voted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Boy
the contemporary Era Committee Camp, seventeen years in the majors,
including the Mets and Giants, at three hundred and fifty
home runs that's more than any other second basement in history,
two ninety lifetime batting average. He's also remembered for two

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other things, hit by a pitch one hundred and twenty
times and his famous clubhouse fight with Barry Bonds, in
which Kemp emerged with a black eye and said he
slipped and fell while washing his truck in the fourth inning. Now,

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guys like Don Mattingley and Dale Murphy, they still have
a shot with the Baseball Writers of America. These are
the older guys and they'll have the ballots next month.
So and the two big cheaters, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens,
did not get enough votes. And I still say they

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should be put in a cheaters wing in the Hall
of Fame. That's what you mean, all right? News flash?
Three and ten Jets eliminated from the playoffs the fifteenth
straight year.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh darn it, No, what do he do the.

Speaker 12 (21:07):
Fans a favor and sell the team? But you know what,
despite not scoring an offensive touchdown, I think the Jets
should still start twenty four year old rookie Brady Cook
the next four games. Give him a shot and give
him the all important reps with the first team and
see what he can do. And I don't know about you,

(21:31):
but I had to turn the sound off of the game.
The TV analysts obviously paid by the word that guy
never stopped talking even when there was nothing significant to say.
Did you hear that? Did you have no watch it?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I did watch it. I was actually flipping around on
red zone. But that it was more obvious because you
heard the other games where they weren't talking over the plays,
and then you heard these these two that wouldn't shut up.
You're absolutely right, Oh gosh.

Speaker 12 (22:04):
Now, at least the two and eleven Giants didn't lose
and they had a buy but once again questionable strategy
by this interim coach Mike Kafka. In their last game,
Remember they were trailing the Patriots twenty seven to seven,
a minute thirteen less than a half. They had a
fourth and one at their own forty and they punted. Man,

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it's twenty seven seven. The Giants' offense was going nowhere.
Fourth and one, go for it. Instead, the Giants punted
and the Patriots kicked the field goal was thirty to
seven at the half. Turn your sets off there now,
speaking of betting, all week long, the Vikings were two

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point favored over Washington. Then on Saturday it changed because
Washington announced that their quarterback Jaydon Daniels would so the
Vikings became a point and a half underdog. Now, since
the Vikings won thirty one to nothing, if you took
the Vikings early and gave two points and then took

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the Vikings with the point and a half, you want
both betters. That's why they try to keep the gamblers
know before you know. Now here's what's wrong with increasing
the college football playoffs. The twelve teams Duke had five
losses five losses, but they automatically make the final twelve

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playoff teams because they beat Virginia in overtime. They won
Atlantic Coast Conference title. Oh Man let them all in,
and when will they learn the big time college football programs.
They hire coaches to long term deals and then they
fire them before the contract is up and they have

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to pay these massive payoffs. Oh Man LSU had to
pay Brian Kelly fifty four million penn State owed the
James Franklin forty nine million. It just goes on and on.
You know, these guys got to wake up. Don't hire
a coach for more than five years. If he's good,

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give him another five years. If he's a failure, you
don't have to give him the ranch. Gosh, hey, Larry,
you remember Walter Austen. I know it's baseball, the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, of course, the yeah. The manager, right, you.

Speaker 12 (24:36):
Know he managed twenty three years, one year contract for
twenty three years. Man, what a what a contrast to
the football guy all right. Time now for the three
Stooges Giants general manager Joe Shane, who was going six
and eleven, three and fourteen and two and eleven the

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last three years, he gave not exactly a reassuring New
Rockney speech for a long time, suffering Giant fans by saying,
nobody's perfect. The chances of me batting a thousand are gone.
Everybody makes mistakes, he says. When I'm better now than

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I was when I got here. No, Joe, when you
got here you were nine seven and one. Since then,
you've lost thirty six out of forty seven games.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (25:33):
Remember the movie Come Back, Shane, Come Back Shane. No,
this is don't come back, Joe Shane, don't come back
all right? Steez Stew's number two. The dumbest political platform
by anyone ever running for office in the United States.

(25:53):
Tennessee State Representative Afton Bain who said, I hate n
I hate Tennessee, and I hate country music. They haveten
Nashville is the home of the grende Ole Obbry and
home of country music. No wonder you lost. That would

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be like someone running in Iowa and saying you hate
corn cornfields, farmers and the ballpark in the field of dreams.
You know what a suspicious mind like myself might ask,
did she bet big bucks against herself to lose? And

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finally stooge number three? And this is on you, Larry
the Philadelphia Eagle fans who runs through snowballs at Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Go my god.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Home.

Speaker 12 (26:54):
Now this is this is being replaced. Now they egged
the house of the Eagle offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo, whose
Eagle offense has scored only ten points, fifteen points and
sixteen points in three of the last four games.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So he deserved it.

Speaker 12 (27:17):
Oh, by the way, you think you think the younger
people in the audience know what egging house is Oh,
I do do you have to?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (27:25):
I think it's throwing eggs at the guy's house.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
It's notunf explanatory.

Speaker 12 (27:30):
Those are your those are your people.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Larry, Well, you're forgetting that during the parade when they
won the Super Bowl, they hit the general manager in
the face with a beer can. Oh no, yeah, I
don't think that was on purpose. But still, you know
you don't throw beer cans. Hey, thanks a lot. Water.
That was great. Water Wolf, legendary sportscaster with us every
Monday at seven thirty five. Well, here's the question. Should

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children born in America become US citizens even if their
parents aren't here legally? The Supreme Court will deal with
that very question this week, But first WOOR correspondent Roury
O'Neil deals with it. He's next. I don't know about you,
but this question know for birthright citizenship fascinates me that

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those that are born in the country are automatically United
States citizens. It is a point of contention right now,
especially with the Trump administration, and now it is going
to the Supreme Court again. Let's find out more about that.
From Rory O'Neil, WR National correspondent with us every day

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at this time. This is going to be one of
those rulings that everybody is going to be paying attention to.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
Rory, Yeah, it sure will, and I think we're all
going to be disappointed in that. The Court will probably
more likely rule about how President Trump has tried to
end birthright citizenship flashback inauguration Day, January twentieth, Among that
series of executive orders signed by the President was one
that essentially ends this idea that if you're born here,

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you are an American citizen. Now, this is part of
the Fourteenth Amendment, which was passed coming out of the
Civil War, a series of amendments coming out of slavery
and things like that. But the president is trying to
undo a constitutional amendment with an executive order That may
not sit well with some of the more originalists on
the court.

Speaker 12 (29:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I know that this has been to the court before
the Supreme Court, and they've ruled on this. They've ruled
this several times. Actually, the last ruling definitely said that
anybody that's born here, that's what it should be. There
were some rulings before that that were not as clear,
but the last one, which has been maybe one hundred

(29:47):
years ago or eighty years ago has existed. But here's
what's interesting about it. The guy that wrote the amendment,
Senator Jacob Howard, had argued on the floor of the
Senate that it shouldn't include foreigners, aliens who belong to
the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers credit to the government.

(30:10):
So he was saying, of course, you wouldn't have aliens
or foreigners here that had a child and to become
a US citizen. But somehow that got lost over the years.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
Right, and that's been sort of the challenge over and
over again, but it always falls short, right that the
court sides with this idea of you were born here,
you are an American. And the President's argument is, look,
it's the twenty first century. It's easier now for people
to just fly here, have a baby, and then boom,
they've got now all the benefits of being an American citizen,

(30:41):
something that I'm thought of one hundred and fifty years ago.
So those are some of the challenges, and they're trying
to address it, and the President is trying to address
it through an executive order, and it's the mechanism that
may not fly. Not really about the policy. But how
President Trump is trying to bring about this change.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh, that'd be interesting if you're right, if they actually
punt on the amendment itself and just deal with the
executive the fact that he did it in an executive order,
that that is really that would really be fascinating. That
would be a little bit cheap. But but I understand
because you want a rule. Even though they say they're
going to say that there is this ruling and it stands,

(31:20):
it's been standing for eighty years. We're not going to
deal with that because we agree with it, but we
want to rule on the executive order being used. I
guess that's going to be their way out. But I
used to live in San Diego where people were pregnant.
Women would line up at the border waiting to have
a baby.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
At the hospital, right, And it's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
You know.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
You can go to South Florida and it's the same
from you know, people from Latin America coming in for
quote unquote vacation. Lots of Russians too, by the way. Yeah,
so it's pretty remarkable how that happens. And it's become
a cottage industry really. But the court essentially may say, look,
you're free to amend the constitution. The system is there.

(32:03):
You know, we know how to amend the constitution, and
if you want to change it, well, then use that process,
not the process of an executive order, which we know
is just the whim of a president and can be
done and undone from administration to administration.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah. And I think everybody would agree with that, even
if they don't agree that anybody that's born here should
be Does any of our other country have that, or
if you're born in that country?

Speaker 10 (32:26):
Thirty other countries roughly have that, including Canada and Mexico.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Huh. I didn't know that. I didn't think there was
any That's interesting. Rory O'Neill, wor National correspondent was going
to be back with us tomorrow morning at seven fifty.
Thanks a lot, Rory.

Speaker 10 (32:42):
I taught you something, Larry.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I'll take it all right. I know that I'm going
to double check him on it. Of course, I knew.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
I knew that was happening.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's gonna be the first thing I do once we
go to the news. Is the United States compairing to
attack Venezuela. It sure does seem like it. We're going
to go through the possibilities of what may happen after
the eight o'clock news