Hour 3: Mamdani’s homeless plan

Mamdani’s homeless plan.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I hope you're having a great Monday. It is
cold out there. Just be warned that it's gonna be
really cold. Of course you're gonna walk outside, you're gonna
feel and you're gonna walk back in and say, oh boy,
I need some warmer clothes on. But it is the
coldest day of the season so far. In the Big Three,
Mayor Alexor and Mamdani says, when he gets into office,

(00:22):
he is going to stop. He's going to stop the
city sweeps of the homeless in New York.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
If you are not connecting homeless New Yorkers to the
housing that they so desperately need, then you cannot deem
anything you're doing to be a success.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay, wait, hold on, So not only do you want
to stop the sweep of the encampments and the homeless
on the city streets, but you want to get them
permanent housing too. So how long do we have to
wait for you to have the money for the for
the permanent housing? And what does that mean? The city

(00:58):
streets are going to be looking like San Francisco and
Los Angeles with holmless all over the streets. Seriously, how
come this guy didn't tell us we should be so
upset that we didn't hear him. Who would have voted
for him? Then that's why he didn't tell us. What
else is going to happen? What else is this guy
gonna hit us with that he didn't tell us. During

(01:20):
the campaign, a sixty year old sixty eight year old
man in Jamaica, Queens was just crossing the street and
he's hit and killed by a moped.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
So when I heard it was head trauma, I was
mad because I'm like, this person hit My dad had
him died with one of the best brains anybody could
want to, you know, have.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That was his daughter. Why do we protect the moped riders?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
This guy actually was arrested, but for the most part,
people just travel illegally on the streets of Manhattan and
all of the burrows and they get away with it.
We're the ones that have to be careful. We have
to protect ourselves because the police, law enforcement isn't out
there protecting us. The pre trial evidence hearing of Luigi

(02:09):
Mangioni continues today in Manhattan. Last week in court, they
played the nine to one one tape from Altoona, PA.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
He's fill in the back of our Lobbie by the
bath firm.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
We're in a black lettered.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Jacket with a medical math and a tan khaki collor.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Like Beanie. You have to move. Beanie pulled down so
the only thing you can see is his eyebrows.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Now, I've been now accused of being obsessed with his eyebrows,
but I can't get over the fact that he was
so meticulous in planning this crime, and he forgot the
trim his eyebrows, and that's how he got caught. That's
the only reason I'm obsessed with it. A new survey

(02:54):
of air travelers ranks Newark Liberty International Airport as the
most stressful airport in the country, a survey that seemingly
nobody agrees with.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
I do not agree with that statement. Coming to Newark
was so easy. I just got hit from Austin. Getting
through the terminal. Just follow the signs. Everything is lit up,
makes it so easy.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
We really have any complications.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Our bags came pretty quick.

Speaker 8 (03:21):
Everything was kind of self explanatory.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So yesterday was the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. Today is
the day after the attack on Pearl Harbor, and it
was on this day in nineteen forty one that Franklin
Delano Roosevelt made a speech that echoed through history.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yesterday, December seven, nineteen forty one, a date which will.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Live in infamy.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
And today is a day that lives in infamy for
another reason, because this is the day that John Lennon
was shot.

Speaker 9 (04:03):
Remember, this is just a football game, no matter who wins,
aw loses. An unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC
News in New York City. John Lennon outside of his
apartment building on the West side of New York City,
the most famous, perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot
twice in the back rush the Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
It was during Monday Night football that Howard Cosell told
the country that John Lennon had been shot. Well, I
want to talk a little bit more about Venezuela and
what is happening there, because the media, for some reason,
can't quit this story. They can't quit the strikes now,

(04:48):
even though we know that the strikes are completely legal,
even if though we know the President had the power
to order these strikes, even though we know that a
JAG officer was right there, even though we know that
Pete hag Seth was not in the room, and that
has been confirmed. Even though we know that everything was legal,

(05:09):
it keeps coming up. I don't know if you saw
the Sunday morning shows. It came up time and time again,
and at news conference, Pete, at news conferences, Pete hag
Seth is still asked over and over again right through
the weekend, did you, at any time say that everybody
on board should be killed?

Speaker 10 (05:27):
Is anybody here from the Washington Post?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I don't know where you get your sources, but they
suck of course not, of course not. It's the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And he keeps pointing that
out to the media.

Speaker 10 (05:40):
Of course, not anybody that's been in the situation room
where there's or there's been in the war room there,
Secretary's office. No, you don't walk in and say kill.
It's just patently ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Also, everybody who's ever served knows, and because that now,
politicians usually don't serve. Anybody who's ever served knows that
you have to eliminate the enemy unless they've raised a
white flag. If they can continue their operation, they need

(06:12):
to be eliminated.

Speaker 10 (06:14):
Those who were involved in twenty years of conflict Iraq
and Afghanistan or elsewhere. Know that reattacks and restrikes of
combatants on the battlefield happen often.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right Ben Crenshaw, not Ben Crenshaw, Dan Crenshaw, the congressman who,
by the way, used to be on TV all the time.
Everybody loved the guy. He's the guy with the eyepatch
that became famous because they made fun of him on
SNL and then he went on and appeared there. You
know who he is. But he used to be involved

(06:46):
in a terrorist task force. And he agrees with Pete.
Hegseath and says, yes, you're told to make sure that
somebody who is a terrorist, somebody who was an enemy
combatant is eliminated unless they surrender.

Speaker 11 (07:05):
I can't recall any time in my history of doing
counter chars on operations where we strike a group, whether
that's a building or a boat or a vehicle, and
then we were like, oh, well, there's survivors.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
We have to go. We can't kill them. Of course
we killed them, right. And now the President says he's
going to release the tape. It still has to go
through some legal things, but it's going to be released,
and so that argument's going away. And what's really. Eric Schmidt,
who was the congressman from Missouri, has been He's one

(07:37):
of my heroes. He's so good at handling the media.
He was on this week with George Stefanopolis. So Stephanopolis
asks about the airstrikes and Schmidt right away answered, and
I guess that he didn't like his answer, or maybe
it was just too good, because he tried to change
topics immediately and he started to talking about, well, what

(08:00):
about the president of Pardoning, the president of Honduras, what
about that? And Schmid wasn't having it because that's not
why he was asked to be on the show.

Speaker 12 (08:11):
Well, I'm curious about your pushback on that particular point.
With your previous guests, you had zero pushback because he's
giving the Democrat talking points like U spew every single week,
which is probably why your ratings are so bad about that.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
And then he continued on to talk about the Democrats
and the fact that they do exactly what George Stefanopolis does,
as George Stefanopolis does whatever they want.

Speaker 12 (08:35):
You're trying to divert here the attention from what the
American people actually support. Seventy five percent of Americans support
US blowing narco terras out of the water in the
Caribbean who are trying to poison Americans. There's no real
legal debate about the ability to do that. Now you
could have a policy discussion about it, which now you
see the Democrats pivoting from the Second strike and the

(08:56):
war crimes allegation to really what this whole thing is about,
should we do it and be doing in the first place.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
All they're doing is searching desperately for something to make
President Trump look bad, not realizing that past Democratic presidents
did the exact same thing. As a matter of fact,
when Joe Biden was Senator, he talked about the exact
same thing that Donald Trump is considering now, going in

(09:25):
and just taking out the narco terrorist where they live.
Here's Joe Biden, Senator, Joe Biden.

Speaker 13 (09:31):
Let's go after the drug lords where they live with
an international strike force. There must be no safe haven
for these narco terrorists and they must know it.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
That is Joe Biden. Yes, President Obama said basically the
same thing. It's only Donald Trump doing it that they
don't like. They know it's actually a good thing. They
just don't like it because Donald Trump wants to do,
which makes them frauds. Oh here's a great question. Ever

(10:06):
thought about changing your doctor? Turns out a lot of
people are doing just that. We'll tell you the top reasons. Next,
plus tickets to see the Rascals rocking the Holiday concert
at A twenty five. As always, thanks a lot for
your talkbacks. You make the show so much better. You
go to seven to ten WLR on the iHeartRadio app
and you look for the talkback feature if you want

(10:27):
to get involved.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
The diner from Heinfeld is Tom's Diner in Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You can actually go there, great little place. Yeah, here's
the interesting thing. And Natalie was filling me in on this,
and think about Tom's Diner. And thanks a lot for
the phone call. You're absolutely right, But the inside was
a studio. They just filmed the outside of the diner
in Manhattan, but the inside they shot elsewhere. So does

(10:56):
that count I I don't know. I mean, the Sopranos
Diner was an actual diner and they filmed inside.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
You could go He's in the booth.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, absolutely, it's a little bit close. But how about this,
remember the song Tom's Diner. There's a lot of deadad
is a lot of it for a long time. We

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can talk over it because it's here comes the music
now before you actually get to any choruses. But everybody
knows this song. I don't think a lot of people
know it's called Tom's Diner.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
I had no idea, but when you said the song is, oh, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Know that one.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I'm giving up on her. She's not gonna get singing it.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
The corner.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I am waiting the counter for the man to coffee,
and he feels it only halfway.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
This thing was a huge hit and it really doesn't change. Yep,
this is the song. If you can do debt da data,
you could be a star too. I actually I love
this song. It is a great song. Let's get more
of your talkbacks.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, here's a clue about these mopeds and eat bikes.
How about we license them, make them get insurance, and
when I hurt somebody, they have to pay and they're responsible.
And if you license all of them, hey, you can
get rid of congestion pricing, maybe even center extra money.
MTA said they stopped taxing us people that don't even
ride the damn train.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, you know what I've been talking about. Licensing them
for a long time. Actually, my wife was the first
one that said it to me about a decade ago.
But I never thought of what you just said about
the money that can be made in doing that. That's
the reason people want to do it. Once you tell
them they can make money, everything is possible. So yeah,

(13:01):
we'll start talking about that more in the air. Thanks
for that, Thanks for that idea. So have you switched
doctors recently? Apparently a lot of people switch doctors, but
there's the reasons vary, and so they have. They've done
a survey on it to find out the reason that
people have gone from one doctor to another, and more
than half of them, more than half of them. Now, ma'am,

(13:28):
I'm looking at this story right now, and now I'm
having some questions. Waiting more than thirty minutes in the
waiting room is the number one reason nobody wants to
wait for a long time because you know they overbooked.
You know they overbooked to make up for cancelations, and
when there's no cancelations that day, you're the one that
has to suffer for that. So that's just rude.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Not being able to speak to a real person.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
Ugh, try to call a doctor's office. You just want
to ask a question, just a question. Then you have
to go to your my chart and you have to
put it in. Now, I just want to talk to somebody, right.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I know, and now everything's done online. Now they'll tell you,
we just go online and ask your question. We'll get
back to you.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
This one gets me though.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And difficulty scheduling appointments. This is a huge problem. Huge.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
I've called doctors or they say they can't see me
for like six months. Well, my situation isn't going to
be good in six months.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
So now they'll say to you unless you have these
things like my one, They tell you certain things if
you have these problems like discomfort in your chest or
something like that. So just lye that's what I say.
Oh yeah, that's going away. But I'm having this and
acid problem. Now let's get to Larry Kofski with the

(14:50):
eight thirty News. Larry, Well, good morning, Larry.

Speaker 14 (14:53):
Twenty eight degrees mostly cloudies, guys, accuse you. United Healthcare
CEO eludes A. Luigi Mangioni is returning to a Manhattan
courtroom later this morning, his lawyers trying to get key
evidence against him thrown out because They claim that Mangioni's
rights were violated during his arrest in Pennsylvania. A video

(15:14):
put out by Mayor Alexora and Mamdani is intended to
educate New Yorkers on what they can do if confronted
by ICE. It includes rights to keep your door closed
if agents show up without a warrant, had to film
ICE agents as long as you don't interfere with an arrest.
A New Jersey judge has ruled that if disgraced former
US Senator Robert Menendez so much as tries to seek

(15:37):
public office again, he will be charged with contempt of
court Andnndez is currently serving an eleven year prison term
for corruption. There could be a vote later this week
to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits. Whether it
will have the votes the votes to pass is another
matter entirely and in his study says marijuana extract could
help to calm aggressive dogs. Researchers reporting in the journal

(16:01):
Frontiers and Veterinary Science say that dogs given CBD supplements
long term are less aggressive than others. Either that or
maybe we just won't care as much.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
I don't know, Larry, so you're gonna get your dog
all jugged up.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I've seen that movie that never turns out well.
Thanks a lot, Larry Kovsky, and congratulations to Fred Lusher
from Staten Island who just won a pair of tickets
to see The Rascals Rock in the Holidays concert with
John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band Saturday, December twentieth
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(16:42):
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win tomorrow at A twenty five, So be listening then.
New York City Deputy Mayor Randy Mastro. You all know
him with a shock of white hair. He's always around.
He's resigned and on the way out. He took a
shot at Mam Donnie in a letter. But we have

(17:04):
the man himself coming up next. Deputy Mayor Randy Mastro
is here after the break, Well Sank, thanks so much
for joining us this morning. He is one of New
York's great public servants, serving under Rudy Giuliani and as
the top aid for Eric Adams, and now he has
written a letter of resignations saying that he can't serve

(17:27):
under Zurun Mamdanni. If Zorun Mamdani was considering him. He said, well,
please take me out of consideration. With that, let's get
to Randy Mastro. Sarah, thanks so much for joining us
this morning. I appreciate your time. Before I get to
the letter of resignation, Sarah, I'd like to talk about

(17:47):
the news now that Zurun Mamdanni, he didn't tell us
this during his campaign, is going to stop the homeless sweeps.
What will that mean for the City of New York.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Well, it's not humane policy. It's not humane to leave
the homeless out on the streets. People who can't help
themselves need our help. It's bad for their quality of life.
It's bad for New Yorker's quality of life to leave
homeless encampments out on the street. Hopefully some common sense

(18:22):
will ultimately prevail, but this is just bad policy all
the way around. It hasn't worked in other cities that
have allowed these encampments. It's not good for the homeless
population that's left out on the streets, particularly as we
approach the dead of winter. And you know, Mayor Adams
has had the right policy, which is to try to

(18:43):
intervene to get these folks, many of them suffering from
mental illness, or addiction problems, the help they need but
can't get for themselves, and not to allow those encampments
that only you know, foster and promote something that is
bad for those individuals, bad for our city, and bad
public policy.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
And Randy, he also says he's going to find them
permanent housing. This guy lives in a fantasy land. Well
is this This seems to be just another promises making
that he's not going to be able to pay for it.
And I applaud the governor for coming out and saying
that this is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Well, the reality is that we have an obligation to
find housing, you know, for the homeless under the laws
of New York. And there are lots of ways to
help those who are out on the streets get the
social services they need and the housing that they need.

(19:44):
So that is something that the city has long been
committed to doing. But there's no housing solution for people
who won't help themselves and go into the social services
and housing that they need. And that is, you know,
just as you said, you know, a pipe dream to

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think that suddenly thousands of individuals who choose to live
on the streets not because they want to live on
the streets. But because they most of them suffer from
mental illness or addiction problems, they can't help themselves. So
we have to help them. But it doesn't help them

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to encourage the encampments and to allow them to stay
out on the street.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Now, do you have more than one dog? Or is
that one dog making all that racket that?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Well, that is that is my That is that dog.
Cato was adopted from the city shelter system where we
had an overcrowding problem. Back in June. We put more
money into the shelters. We've expedited a completion of a
new bronch shelter and a new free vet clinic. We
love our animals and this administration has tried to help them.

(21:00):
And I took Cato home with me and we love him,
even though he barks a lot when I get in.

Speaker 15 (21:05):
Good for Cato. He wants an airtime, he wants attention.
He doesn't want you paying attention to anybody else. I'm
sure that's all that's going on. No, Cato's fine, Tell
him to keep it up. That's all right, we can
hear you.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Just fine. Uh, let's talk about your resignation letter. Why
did you feel the need to write it.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Well, let me be clear about that too. I saviner
resignation letter effective minutes before midnight on December thirty first,
so I intend to serve this mayor till the last
possible minute. Mayor elect mon Donni's team sent us a
list of one hundred and seventy nine individuals that they

(21:43):
intended to replace come January one. Incredibly, the Mayor and
I were on that list. Neither of us, neither of
us intended ever or could deserve so. And I have
said many times that I'll never work for a socialist,
So you know, I felt that it was the right

(22:04):
thing to do to, you know, set the record straight
that you know I was. I was resigning effective you know, midnight,
December thirty one, and that I would be that we
would be leaving together Eric Adams and Randy Bastard.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You just wanted to make sure he knew, even though
he wasn't going to keep you anyway, you wanted to
make sure he knew. But it seemed to be even
more of a statement than that. I think it was
important for you to stake your ground that you would
not work for him. For a number of reasons. Am
I right about that well.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I wanted to make clear one that I had no
intention of working that administration, but two to highlight why
I worked for this administration and why I'm so proud
of this team and to have been a part of
this mayor's administration because serving in these capacities, I think,

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as I understand it, I'm, you know, the first person
in modern city history to have been both a top
deputy man acting mayor under two different mayors. It's because
you're committed to achieving that agenda and the agenda of
this mayor public safety, economic growth, affordable housing. I wanted

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to say to the mayor, thank you for the honor
of serving. I love this city, and thank you for
the honor of helping advance that agenda. Because this administration
has taken crime to record lows, jobs to record highs,
and affordable housing being produced at an unprecedented rate. That's

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a record of accomplishment to be proud of. And these
policies are important because this mayor has protected public safety,
added thirty four hundred more cops in the budget, five
thousand more in the November budget mod to keep our
city safe. He funded universal after school programs so important
to our kids. He's cut red tape and taxes so

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that businesses could thrive, and through rezonings and subsidies and
other programs, he's created affordable housing at an unprecedented rate.
And finally he's recognized as gorge in our city. Something
I never thought I would see in my lifetime. It's
called anti semitism, and it's raging in our city. And
most most of the hate crimes in our city are

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now committed against Jews. All the other hate crimes combined
don't equal to hate crimes against Jews. So he formed
the Mayor's office to combat anti semitism, and we have
implemented executive orders and programs and policies to combat anti Semitism.
These are programs that have to continue. Our city is
so much better because of them, emphasizing public safety, economic growth,

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affordable housing, our kids, and combating anti Semitism. So I
thought it was important to lay that out in a
resignation letter and say to this mayor, these are policies
that we can all be proud of, and that is
so vital must continue in New York.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
We'll see if they continue. Yeah, I think he got
a raw deal. Do you think the Biden administration purposely
came after him because of the immigration thing.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dwell on the past.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm just, for a second, dwell in the past, just
for a moment.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Well, I'm a I'm a former federal prosecutor from the
Seven Dishes of New York. I was in the Justice Department.
And while I have great respect for my old office, uh,
you know, I don't think that that that particular prosecution
was its finest hour. I never should have been brought,
never should have been made as a federal case for

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whatever reason, And unfortunately, I had profound effects on the
ability of the mayor at the time to be able
to do all the things that he wanted to do.
But look look at the progress since over the last
nine months. It's just been an amazing period. He has

(26:02):
a professional team. They've done amazing work, so professional that
the mayor elect, you know, he's reappointing at least some
of them.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, absolutely, no, Yeah, the proof is in the pudding.
As you say that. Randy mascro, thanks so much for
talking with us. Would love to talk to you when
Zura Mom Donnie is in office. So if you ever
want to go on the air with us, please, we're
always open to you.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Thank you, Sir, will be pleased to do that and
thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Big change is coming for New York City's homeless policy.
Mayor Electsura mam Donny says the sweeps of encampment, says,
we were just talking about central to Eric Adams approach
will end. So how did New Yorkers feel about that?
Wars Natalie Migliori gets the Beat on the Street next.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Now he's seventen w oars Beat on the Street with
Natalie Migliori.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
It is the story of the day, Zora and Mom.
Donnie says, when he gets in office, he's going to
stop the sweeps of homeless encampment. So how do New
Yorkers feel about that? Well, Natalie Migliore, as she does
every day, gets the Beat on the street Natalie, good morning, Good.

Speaker 16 (27:09):
Morning, Larry. Yeah, homeless sweeps are the talk of the
town this morning. It comes as New York City mayor
like Xoran Mamdani says he's plans to stop what he
calls deconstructing homeless camps, a key effort. Mayor Adams launched
to get people off the streets and into shelters early
on in his administration. So what do people think about

(27:31):
getting rid of homeless sweeps?

Speaker 17 (27:33):
Entirely, we shouldn't do sweeps of any kind for any
kind of people, not just that's inhumane. Everything needs to
be dealt on a one to one basis because everyone
is unique.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
I wouldn't say that they need to stop doing them,
but I think if they're going to do them, there
should be someplace that they take these people, don't just
sweep them and put them in prison or leave them
some places in the end of back on the.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Street, all I know is seth they said he should
do something. Not so much camp or anything like that,
but at least shows it's which a life people are
very very hesitant about going into. It's a bounced question,
a question of whether you should or should not interfere
with people's right to live the way they.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Want to live.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Well.

Speaker 16 (28:13):
Mayor Adams has argued you can't just let encampments take
over the city streets and subways. However, data shows that
just over five hundred people have been placed in permanent
housing since Sweet started in twenty twenty two, so Mom
Donnie's arguing people just end up back on the streets
in many of these cases. So do people think the
city is able to curb its homeless population.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
I think they need to continue it. I mean absolutely.
I mean, look at the see the city's crapped out,
you know, and it's dangerous. I fear from my daughter
and my wife, you know. I mean, and it's not
just the homeless, it's just everybody. It's just this giant
mish mash of just bad stuff that's come into the city.
Now and January first, that's the day that he takes over,
and I think it's just gonna get worse.

Speaker 17 (28:54):
The city seems to be doing a better job as
of late, just in this neighborhood of Hell's Kid, it
seems to be fewer and fewer people that are having
issues with mental health and drug addiction that are on
the streets. And yet there's still out there, there's still
people that are in need.

Speaker 16 (29:13):
Yeah, and that's under this administration. Larry, you have to
remember that the administration is going to change, and it
might change if these sweeps stop.

Speaker 13 (29:20):
Now.

Speaker 16 (29:20):
Governor Capi Hokl who endorsed Mam Donnie, we all know
this says she doesn't think stopping enforcement is the best way.
Yet another one of Mam Donnie's policy. The governor has
spoken out about, right, she keeps stacking him and then
speaking out against these policies. So what do people think
about that?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Well, I'm not surprised she's she's a politician. She'll do
what's expedient for her and say whatever she needs to
to maintain her voter base, I guess. But in terms
of mont DONI, I mean, he's going to be a
disaster for the city and she's just going along.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
For the ride.

Speaker 17 (29:54):
When you're dealing with these large issues in New York
so much, fit is a a game, and you know
there has to be a benefit to whoever is being
involved in this. They have to get something out of it.
That's just the name of politics.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah. I think it'll be important for her to be
open minded.

Speaker 16 (30:14):
Yeah, Well, one thing she's not open minded about. She's
already said it's free busses, a linchpin that made a
headline throughout Mom Donnie's campaign. But the governor and these
New Yorkers are not so sure about a free ride.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Ridiculous, it's not going to happen. Nothing is free in life.
You know, I was in Denver on business several years
ago and they had free buses there, and the homeless
live in the buses. Literally you can't even get on it.
So it'll be the same thing here.

Speaker 17 (30:39):
The only issue I have with that is the safety
of the bus drivers, because right now, if there's that
little barrier that you have to pay to get on
the bus, it just seems like there'll be less knuckleheads
getting on the bus and causing trouble.

Speaker 16 (30:55):
Larry, only time will tell really what he can get
done and what the state allows him to do and
with the city council allows him to do.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
So we'll say, you know, yeah, you've had to walk
the streets of New York City both when they didn't
have the sweeps and when they started the sweep. So
what's the difference to you.

Speaker 16 (31:17):
I don't see much of a difference. I do still
see people out on the streets flowery. In fact, I
find that when buildings close, when business is closed, encampment
start building, especially if they're scaffolding over the area.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
So down in.

Speaker 16 (31:32):
Lower Manhattan and the twenties along the East Side, I've
started seeing seeing that, Wow, that's happened.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, Yeah, it's going to start up again big time now.
Thanks so much, Natalie mcglorio. She's going to be back tomorrow.
At the same time, it seems the Letitia James prosecution
is no more funny. Thing is she can prosecute fake
real estate fraud but get out of real ones. Eri
Hoffman from The New York Sun is here to talk

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