Hour 3: Mangione hearings

Mangione hearings.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, how are you. Hope you're having a great Thursday.
Thanks for being here this morning. Remember it's going to
be cold outside. You're going to find out as soon
as you walk out the door. But you're going to
want to dress a little bit warmer today in the
Big Three. Well, this is now my favorite story of
the week. The Venezuelan boat strikes are my favorite story
of the week. After all of the huffing and puffing

(00:23):
in the talk of court martials, maybe in peachment a
big scandal. A source tells Martha Ratt, it's ABC's Martha Rat.
It's not exactly a conservative Republican that the strike on
the Venezuelan narco terrorist boats were legal.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
According to a source familiar with the incident, the two
survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike.
They were believed to be potentially in communication with others
and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it
was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets.
A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Michael Moulroy, former Undersecretary of Defense, heard the exact same
thing and reported the exact same thing, saying the strike
would have been legal. Let me repeat that the strike
would have been legal. I would love to be at
this hearing today with Admiral Mitch Bradley as he's being interrogated,

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and he'll just sit there with a big smug look
on his face. Maybe we want to bring in the lawyer.
Maybe we should bring in the jag officer who okayed it.
It always backfires, one of they just wait, they should
take a breath before they go after Trump on these things.
Amelia lewis an NYU student and a hero who was
assaulted while walking down the street in broad daylight, gets justice,

(01:48):
and becomes an anti crime advocate after getting a very
bad man off the streets.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, like, just be aware when you're walking like anywhere
right now in New York, because like, are you Like
I never thought this was gonna happen to me, just
because I was like, I've seen the stories and I
was like, oh, that's so scary, but like having it
actually happen now, it's like, oh my god, Like you
need to be aware at all times.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Right after it happened, she posted that on social media
and it was powerful, and dozens and dozens of young
women responded to the post and said, the exact same
thing has happened to me. And as a matter of fact,
she texted a friend, another NYU student, who said I
was also assaulted in the exact same way and video helped.

(02:37):
They went out, they got video, and they caught the
guy who had been arrested, of course, sixteen times, and
he just got out of prison for sexual assault. He's
going back to prison now. The Somalian fraud scandal in
Minnesota will now be investigated by the Justice Department and
may end up being a two billion dollar scandal.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
What we know is the state employees in Minnesota rang
the bell, they blew the whistle that there was massive fraud,
and yet Tim Waltz and Keith Ellison, the Attorney General,
apparently turned the blind eye to that for fear of
political retaliation from the large voting block of Somali's.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Let's jump right to the Christmas tree, shouldn't we. It's
now officially the Christmas season. The rock A Feller Center
Christmas tree has been lit.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I still love that. I get such a kick out
of that. They've been waiting there all day for that moment.
They get excited and then they're like, uh, no, I
gotta I gotta drive home. Man. I don't have a
place to stay tonight. I didn't get a place in
the city. Now, let's get right to Laura Carr and
political commentator and former NASA County executive with us every

(04:02):
Thursday at this time. Laura, you excited about the Christmas tree.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Never. I never care about the tree and I never will.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Natalie shaking her head. She's so upset with you, she's
so disappointed in you, souper humbug. What.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I just like the tree. I do not get the
hoopla every friaking year, this freaking tree. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I did not expect that from you. But I will
tell you I'm a little bit with you. I mean,
in that look. I know that NBC makes a lot
of money, They made a big show out of it.
People have to wait there forever. What excuse me? Yeah, NBC?
What did I say, NBC? Yeah? I thought so. Yeah. Anyway,

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so then people wait there all day for that one
moment that's really not a moment. It's like ten seconds,
and then that's it. Yeah, And you could be there
the next day and just walk by it and get
the same experience.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I don't know if you even wants to walk by
it though.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
No, I don't want to go anywhere near it. I've
never ever been anywhere near the tree, at least not
on purpose.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's something. It's not just the lighting of the tree.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
She just doesn't want to be around the tree.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Do you have a Christmas Do you put a Christmas
tree up in your house?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I love Christmas and we always get a big, beautiful,
you know, actual real tree. Yeah, every year. I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Why do you hate this tree so much?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
I just it's like I don't get the point. It's
like the Macy's Day parade, Like I just don't get
the point of going and being cold and being with
all those people, and it's just look so dumb because
it's the same thing every year, Like there's nothing interesting
about it.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
This is amazing, This is absolutely amazing. I have never
heard I've heard people that think that it's made too
much of I have never heard anybody that has loathed
the Rockefeller.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Christmas You know what, I don't even loathe it. I
just don't care.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
I think Laura needs a happy pill.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I'm happy.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
I'm a happy person. It's not about not being happy. Yeah,
it's just dumb.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, you know what I'm happy about today? I'm happy
you Are you happy about Bunny? I don't know if
you heard did you hear Martha Raddits's report where she
talked to uh, I can play it for you. Listen
to this and you can respond afterwards. This is about
the Venezuelan airstrike that the Democrats are so excited about
that they finally got him. They can war crimes and
they're going to have their meeting today. And this is

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what Martha rat has heard from a source.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
According to a source familiar with the incident, the two
survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike.
They were believed to be potentially in communication with others
and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it
was determined they were still in the fight and valid target.
It's a JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
A JAG officer was there and okay, the strike. Mick
Milkelroy by Mike Mulroy, excuse me, heard the exact same thing.
It sounds like this is a big nothing burger once
again for the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yeah, I guess all the information has to come out.
There's a lot of oversight issues. You know, Congress just
hasn't had the ability to have overset. I mean, I
still have a lot of questions about these boats.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Are we at war?

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Why are we doing this? The fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela.
It's cocaine. Not great, but you know, if he's talking
about going against ventanyl, that's China and Mexico. So I
don't think this will be a nothing burger. And then
there's also the news today in the Wall Street Journal
about the admiral who quit in October. Turns out he

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was told to go like you're either on the team
or you're not, and he said, I can't do this
because I'm concerned. He didn't say actually he didn't say this,
but the speculation is he was concerned about the legal
of it.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But we'll see.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
I mean, it's an issue that people are very concerned
about drugs coming into the country. Of course, of course
we want to go after drug dealers. There was also
speaking of that really another really interesting story. I'm not
trying to boost the Journal today, but.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Can I say on this is this in the same
topic or you switching to it? OK, go ahead, sorry,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Same topic. Those fifty five drug cartel guys were brought
from Mexico into America to face serious legal pressure and
confinement imprisonment because these cartel leaders in Mexico live the
life of Riley in prison. They get cocaine, they get money,
they get telephones, they get women, you know, like they

(08:42):
can run their cartels from prisons in Mexico. And there
was this deal worked out where well, that's not going
to happen anymore with these guys. I thought that was
really interesting.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think it's really interesting your position on the air
strikes that we're conducting right now. I'm just wondering if
you are politically consistent on this, D did you have
the same problem with all of the drone strikes under
the Obama administration that killed four Americans?

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Oh God, I don't even. I have to be honest
with you, I don't even because yeah, I remember now, yeah, yeah, No.
I mean I'm concerned about anything where there's not oversight
and transparency.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Frankly, well, that's happened every presidency. Every single presidency, there
has been either the overthrow of a government or air
strikes that never go through Congress, and every single time
we hear the same argument from both sides. By the way,
both sides make the same argument, there should be congressional oversight,
and yet it seems like that's gone away a long

(09:40):
time ago. I guess the last time they went to
Congress was for the attack on Iran. I don't think
it's happened since then.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
And I think the argument would be, well, some things
need to be secret, you know, I don't know, there's
so much murky area in all of these things, and
also so much that we don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, that's true, That's very true, And they're going to
learn a lot today and I really look forward to
it because I think that there was a JAG officer there.
That changes everything. The fact that a JAG officer signed
off on this changes everything.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
So yeah, yeah, exactly, And you know, the talk about
the fog of war. There's a lot that will come out,
you know, will probably start coming out today. But I
just think, you know, Congress needs to be apprized, oversight
needs to happen, and a certain level of transparency and
legality has to happen. Whoever the president is whatever, I.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Agree with you as long as you're consistent, I agree
with you. Laura Kerr and political commentator and former NASA
County executive with us every Thursday eight oh five. Thanks
a lot, Laura, good talking to you. He mailed in
hearts every holiday season. But the man behind an icon
holiday character had secret marriages, hidden kids, and a shocking
family twist. And we have tickets to see the Trans

(10:51):
Siberian Orchestra all next, Well, thanks for your talk. Back
to today you want to talk about well two related issues,
tipping and hooters.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
I don't want to be a ba hombug, but yes,
actually I do want to be a ba hambug. I
don't know when this tradition started. It wasn't when I
was in school to give teachers Christmas gifts.

Speaker 9 (11:11):
They don't need the Christmas gifts.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
I've been a teacher before. I don't need the handmade
ornaments or the mugs. I don't even need the Starbucks
gift certificates because they just get lost.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
So let's just.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
Start a revolution and agree not to do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
We can do this, man, it's a lot of ba
humbug today. Laura Karran didn't like the tree. She doesn't
like little gifts for Christmas.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
I have to say, I've spoken to teachers. They like
the gift cards because now they're cards and you can
put the money right into your app because they all
like coffee.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
You know what, you should call back? How about cash?
Would she take cash? That's weird.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
I don't know if I'd ever give a teacher cash,
but I definitely give I've definitely given Starbucks.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Gift card, except you can spend it everywhere I know.
All right? How about your garbage man.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
Garbage man, they work way harder than the bartender who
you give. Probably a lot more money too, every week
ten dollars a week, fifty dollars at Christmas, and that
gentleman will take anything you ever put out, even if
he's not. But don't tell anyone I said that.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
And not only that. If you don't tip your garbage man,
your your driveways a mess for about a month. So yeah, no,
I tip every single time.

Speaker 11 (12:26):
My husband.

Speaker 12 (12:27):
One time I asked him to watch the kids.

Speaker 10 (12:29):
I was going to.

Speaker 13 (12:31):
Run some errands, and when I came home, the kids
were yelling.

Speaker 11 (12:34):
Mommy, Daddy took us to Hooters.

Speaker 10 (12:38):
Hooters, why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Did they like? It? Was an uncomfortable night, Larry.

Speaker 14 (12:47):
I'll tell you why Hooters is successful because it gives
every man what he wants. A beautiful young woman who
brings him food and cold beer, smiles at him and
laughs at as jokes.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's all. Thanks. We couldn't have figured that out on
our own movie. That's exactly it. That works every single time.
All of that. Well, I want to play something for you,
and then I'm going to ruin it right afterwards. Could
I really be alive?

Speaker 11 (13:18):
I mean I can make words, I can move, I
can juggle, I can sweep. I can count to ten one, two, three, four, five, nine,
six eight. Well, I can count to five.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
The adorable Frosty the Snowman a childhood icon. Everybody remembers
Frosty the Snowman, and now your memories are going to
be ruined. Jackie Vernon, the comedian who voiced Frosty in
the nineteen sixty nine animated special, led a surprisingly complex

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personal life. According to his son David Vernon, Jackie had
at least three secret marriages and fathered multiple children before
settling down with his wife Hazel. Then he had another
three kids. David discovered this when a woman and her
teenage son visited their home and they all learned together

(14:21):
about their secret families that were being hidden from everybody else,
and he abandoned those families and abandon those kids. Later
in life, Jackie struggled with depression I bet an addiction,
but he did find joy in Frosty's enduring popularity. Good

(14:45):
for him. Jackie, by the way, died in nineteen eighty
seven at the age of sixty three. Well, you know
what if he died that many years ago, why come
out and tell all this now?

Speaker 13 (14:55):
I know.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
I wondered that myself, Like, what would I guess there's
still resentment?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, maybe it is. Maybe it's healing for them.
We shouldn't question you love Frosty though, Yeah, they go
through You can love Frosty without loving Jackie Vernon.

Speaker 8 (15:09):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know you can separate the two. We need to
separate more now. Jacquelyn Carl with the eight thirty News Larry.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
US lawmakers are demanding answers today as they receive a
classified briefing on American strikes against suspected Venezuela Narco boats.
Navy Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley is expected to face tough
questions about why the same boat was hit multiple times
On September second, even after survivors were spotted and with
just weeks left in office, New York City Mayor Eric

(15:38):
Adams is signing an executive order that bans efforts to
divest in Israel.

Speaker 9 (15:44):
Adams's executive order prevents mayoral appointees and leaders of city
agencies from forms of boycotting or divesting in Israel. Mayor
elector on mom Donnie has supported divesting in Israel in
the past. Meanwhile, Adams signed another order that instructs the
NYPD to look at new ways to regular protest activity
outside houses of worship. This comes a week after protesters

(16:04):
shouted hateful chance outside of Upper east Side Synagogue. I'm
Scoutpringle wr news, So wait until.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
You hear what happened to this couple at a restaurant.
There's an alleged integrity issue at one of Fort Lauderdale's restaurants.
On TikTok At they call me, Joe says her date
night at Sparrow's almost cost a whole lot more than
it should have. Joe says she and her husband checked
the bill and did a double take when they realized
another tables tab had been added onto their check. When

(16:35):
they pointed this out to the server, Joe says, they
were told, oh, I'm sorry about that. Someone left they
didn't pay their bills, so the computer accidentally added the
two tables.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
But Joe is not buying that.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Thinks the ditch table would have come out of the
service pay, so they tried to get Joe and her
hobby to cover it. So far, no one from Sparrow's
has commented. Now, I don't know about you, but I've
never heard of a computer's ability to know someone left
without paying and make it the executive decision to just
charge it to another customer.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Do you think it was an accident or you think
it was nefarious?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh well, I don't know if it was nefarious, but
I'll tell you this. I had this happen to me,
this exact same thing. This was at a supermarket. I
got a call from the supermarket telling them that someone
accidentally paid my bill and that I had to come
back and pay because I guess the person made a mistake,

(17:30):
and they rang They rang up my bill and their
bill on the person that followed me.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
And what did you do? Just go up and say, oh,
you gave this all to me for fred.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
No, no, I gave a credit card but it didn't
go through. And then it didn't go through and they
didn't tell me it didn't go through. A. Yeah, they
have to figure out all on video. They showed me
the video when I got there. They had it all
on video because they were trying to figure out she
got the person that left and had a bill for

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like two hundred dollars. What was she thinking, you know,
for a bottle of wine or whatever it was? WHOA,
what is this? And then came back and you know,
I paid it was I owed the money. So, but
it is weird that can happen.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
The one thing that really upset me about the story
that Jacqueline just did that if this happens, and I'm
sure it happens, you know, ditch and dine or whatever,
that the server would have to eat the cost of
that meal. It's not their fault, right, No, Oh, you're right,
that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
No. I guess, huh, I don't. I don't even know
the reason for it. I guess what they're trying to
make sure is that the server is all over them
to pay the bill.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Okay, but if you see them walking out, I'm not
going to stop them, and maybe I'll tell, you know,
the people in the restaurant, the owner or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
But it's not I'm not who knows.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
They're crazy people. You could be in the kitchen getting
some food or something for something.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
They could be violent. Yea, I'm surprised anybody works there. Wait,
with that being the rule, I'm surprised anybody works there. Yeah. No,
have to grip it at my cold dead hands to
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heard that correctly, ten off your entire order. Well, after
ignoring the story for a few days, the Tim Walls
fraud story has finally got the attention of the media.
And the answer as to why they're paying attention right
now is so typical. We'll fill you in after the break.
The amount of money, the amount of fraud centered around

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the Somalian population in Minnesota. And I know all of
these people are out there going, oh, no, no, you
can't target the Somalians, especially Walls and Ellison, who is
used to be head of the Democratic Party and now
he is their attorney general. And a lot of the
Democrats are coming out, and the Mayor of Minnesota is
coming out, Oh, it's not just the somalwis. Well, there's

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been seventy five cases so far and seventy two of
them been Somalis. So I think we can safely say, yes,
it is the Somalian population there. I think we can
safely say that because there's enough evidence to that. The
amount of fraud and the amount of money that was

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taken out of the federal government through Minnesota is stunning.
And the allegation, of course it all goes to al Shabab,
who works with al Qaeda, and back to Somalia, and
so we'll never see that money again. They're talking about
two billion dollars right now. And Tim Walls knew about it.
He was warned about it over and over again. But

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he was running not only for reelection, but then he
was running as vice president and he can't have that
kind of scandal on his watch. So he ignored it.
He ignored it and allowed fraud, allowed money to go
to a terrorist organization, and allowed money that was supposed

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to go to people that I mean, people that had autism.
There was a whole pot of money for children that
had autism, but people would claim they had autism and
they weren't checked and they'd come away with money. And
so they would go after all these different pots of
money to get to get for the sick and the

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hungry and the poor. They would get this money from
all these different pots and it totalled up to they're
saying now possibly two billion dollars. We know it's definitely
a billion dollars, but it could be as much as
two billion dollars. And now after Tim Walls lost the election,
well then he started going after some people. We lost

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the money. That's what he'll tell you right now. If
you go after Tim Walls, Tim Walls will tell you
right now, what are you talking about. We put people
in jail. We went after them. Yeah, but it took
you seven years to do that near the end of
your administration. And this has been happening since COVID that
people have been robbing you blind, but you had such

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political and ambitions you ignored it. Well, everybody's all over
it now. This had come this came out last week,
and not one peep from the media, not from CNN.
The only people that were covering it was Fox News.
CNN didn't cover it, MSNBC didn't cover it. The three

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major networks NBC, ABC, CBS didn't cover it. Washington Post nope,
New York Times nope. Nobody was covering it until Donald
Trump started talking about it. Then it became an issue.

Speaker 15 (23:32):
Waltz's he should be a shame. That beautiful land, that
beautiful state. It's a hellhole right now, and the Somalians
should be out of here. They've destroyed our country.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And that's why they're covering it. It's not because of
the two billion dollars. It's not because of that. It's
because the attacks Themalions. He's a racist. He just went
after them because they're brown people. That's what they said,
even though all the evidence is that it's Somalians. You know,

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there wasn't There wasn't these type of attacks all the
time when it was the mob and it was all Italians.
You know, a lot of people would claim that when
they were under investigation. Well, this is just prejudice against
the Italians. But when you're wrong, when you're a crook,
you're a crook. It doesn't matter what color you are.

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It doesn't matter where you're from. If you're guilty, you're guilty.
And the people that have been found guilty so far
are Somalians. And so you can say that. And this
keeps getting bigger and bigger, the more they investigate, the
more they uncover. It is incredible, the amount of fraud.

Speaker 13 (24:48):
It's staggering. Tom Emmer, of course, is from Minnesota, and
he tells us that it may be as much as
two billion dollars in fraud of Minnesota, and Tim Wallas
has a lot to answer for. Yeah, Congress has a
lot of interest in this, and we're going to track
it down, and I think I think the authorities will
as well.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
So the Justice departments all over it now. There have
been federal investigators there, the state is now investigating it
finally in the state. But there is going to be
congressional hearings. Tim Walls is going to have to go
in front of Congress and answer some of these questions.

Speaker 16 (25:19):
When the President of the United States sets up and
tweets one hundred and fifty times after midnight and targets
certain people, it's not a coincidence that they're targeting Minnesota.
If they want to help us, I welcome that. I
think they do an investigation find out, but I don't
think anybody in here really believes their motive and their
timing is about actually doing something about this.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
He has been deflecting ever since this. He takes no
of course, he can't take accountability because he'd be in jail.
Tim Walls could go to jail over this. That's how
big of a deal this is. And Tim Walls keeps saying, no,
we went after people. We arrested people. Right, you let
billions go and then you went after people because it

(26:04):
was after you were running for vice president, even though
there is a record that people were telling you this
was happening, and you did nothing.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
What we know is the state employees in Minnesota rang
the veil, They blew the whistle that there was massive fraud,
and yet Tim Waltz and Keith Ellison, the Attorney general,
apparently turned to blind Ahe to that for fear of
political retaliation from the large voting block of Somali's right.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
So Congress is after it, the Trump Justice Department is
after it, and Ice is going in and the Somalian
population is so big in Minnesota, it is a voting
block and it has some power. That's what Tim Walls
was afraid of when he was running for reelection. Then
when he got picked to be the vice presidential candidate,

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he just couldn't have a scandal like that brewing, and
so he ignored it then. But you watch, this is
going to be a big deal and it's going to
play out now over the next couple of months. Here's
a legitimate scandal, you know, We've gone after so many
illegitimate scandals. This is one that's real. Let's see what
the media does with it when we come back. One

(27:19):
year after Luigi Mangioni allegedly gunned down United Healthcare CEO
Brian Thompson, are people still obsessed with him? Now?

Speaker 9 (27:29):
He's sevent ten wars.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Beat on the Street with Natalie mcleori. It was one
year ago today that United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was
assassinated on the streets of New York, allegedly by Luigi
mangione His trial will start soon. Right now they're deciding
what witnesses and evidence can be used. So how much

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are New Yorkers paying attention and what they remember of
that day. Natalie Migliori has her Beat on the Street now.
Good morning, Natalie, Good morning Larry.

Speaker 15 (28:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (28:08):
Luigi Mangioni's third day in court for hearing falls exactly
one year after the twenty seven year old allegedly shot
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in front of the Midtown Hillton.
I was on the scene that morning and back there
this morning, asking people if they still think about this
case and that day. Keith says, he actually works in

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the hotel where Thompson stayed.

Speaker 17 (28:32):
But if he had come to the hotel where I
work at and do that, his crime crime is terrible
and he didn't think about people that's around, and it's
just going killed him in crazily and open the air
like that.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Beyond this, I don't remember that.

Speaker 18 (28:44):
You got to kill the guy, Chuck, But unfortunately, I
don't think New York has the TACHT Finalty Show.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Pretty much, he's gonna.

Speaker 18 (28:50):
Sit in jail forever and probably get a pen pal
and get married in jail and have commissary and conjugal
visits and nobody will ever remember it. I mean, at
the end of the day, the CEO guy who's still
a guy, a family guy. You may not like his decisions,
but the fact is he's still a human. So the
same people that cry of people are humans. It's only

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when it's convenient for them.

Speaker 12 (29:14):
Yeah, that guy mapping out Luigi Mangioni's potential time in
prison if convicted. While Mangioni is accused of mapping out
the shooting bucks beforehand, allegedly stashing a getaway bike up
the block from the crime scene and quickly escaping New
York City altogether, with nearly one and a half million
dollars donated to a fund created and Mangioni's name. New

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Yorker still wouldn't call those people a fan base. Some
aren't holding back.

Speaker 19 (29:42):
Though defining it as a fan base is not correct.
I would say it's probably just a collective group of
people who are extremely frustrated.

Speaker 20 (29:50):
Unless you do something extreme that's you're completely ignored.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
You know, crime is crime, murder and murder.

Speaker 17 (29:55):
It could be another way to solve this instead of
actually kill the man.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know, they're nuts playing and shimple. They're just nuts.

Speaker 12 (30:04):
And when it comes to where all of Mangione's support
comes from, I.

Speaker 19 (30:10):
Think it's probably just civil unrest and people who are
desperate in situations where they want to see change. And
again I don't condone it in any way, shape or form,
but to some extent I understand the frustration given the
complete debacle of health care in this country.

Speaker 20 (30:25):
I think that just speaks to where our society is now.
You know, it's like a lot of bad things keep happening,
so people that are struggling, I guess they're getting tired
of it.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
There's no understanding killing is killing.

Speaker 18 (30:35):
It ain't like this CEO came into his house in
the middle of the night and killed his parents.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That would be a different story.

Speaker 18 (30:41):
A business decision shouldn't give you one immediate death sentence.

Speaker 12 (30:45):
But it's the driving factor here, Larry to this shooting
one year ago was the state of the healthcare system.
Do people think anything has changed? And were they even
paying attention to healthcare before this.

Speaker 17 (30:58):
I don't know much about the help and how messed
up it is. When this happened, that's when I find
out how healthcare actually is and stuff like that, what's going.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
On behind the scene.

Speaker 20 (31:08):
But I think there should be changes. Obviously that was
because someone felt like the health care system did them wrong.
But I don't think that they're making any changes to
make it better.

Speaker 19 (31:17):
I've seen it on the news, but I haven't really
thought about it from that perspective. You'll obviously healthcare is
still a massive issue in this country.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Healthcare sucks, plain and simple.

Speaker 18 (31:25):
I mean, I have healthcare where it's seven thousand dollars deductible,
so just to go to the hospital, I got to
lose it on just to have stuff start to get covered.
Health Kare's definitely got to change here, But I don't
have the answer as far he's free. Definitely, ain't it?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
There you have it?

Speaker 12 (31:40):
You know, the officer who arrested Mangioni has been in
court recounting how he found him sitting alone in that
McDonald's and now Tuna, Pennsylvania, after receiving a report from
the manager at that McDonald Larry and Mangioni's lawyers are
really now trying to argue what will and will not
be used in court. They really don't want the murder
weapon or Mangione's and all you. So we'll really see

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what happens, what comes of these hearings, and what the
judge decides. But there is this group of supporters, Larry,
who think you or think that the suspected shooter, whoever
that is, or the alleged is justified in this.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah. Although I have seen the people that have been
out there, and I think you were right in calling
them the fan base. I mean, they're chanting his name.
It's not this has no social aspects. They just like him,
that's what it is. It's weird. It is really really weird.
So the person that said I wouldn't call them fans,

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please just check some video. Just go and watch them, right,
have you seen them? Natalie mclerooy is going to be
back tomorrow morning at eight point fifty. Our kid's mental
health is on the decline and technology could be a
big reason. Is social media fueling the crisis. We're going
to talk to bioethicis doctor Arthur Kaplan right after the

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