Hour 3: NJ Gubernatorial debate

NJ Gubernatorial debate.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for being here this morning. I always appreciate when

(00:02):
you take the time to listen. In the Big Three today, Well,
if you haven't heard yet, huge news peace in the
Middle East broken by Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
So great for Israel, so great for Muslims, for the
Arab countries, uh, and so great for this country, for
the United States of America, and that we could be
involved in, you know, making ideal like this happened because
it was you know, many years they talked about peace
in the Middle East. This is more than Gaza. This
is peace in the Middle East, and it's an incredible thing.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And the final debate in the campaign to be New
Jersey's next governor had Republican Jack Chittarelli and Democrat Mikey
Sheryl getting downright nasty.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Got paid to develop an app so that more people
could get more opioids and die. But here's the fact,
even during even.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I got the walk at my college, and I'm so glad.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
That you then went on to kill tens of thousands
of people in New Jersey, including brookely Ball.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Let me explain that for a second. She claims that
he killed tens of thousands of people because he helped
build a website for an opioid company during the opioid crisis.
In the New York City Mayoral Ray's former Mayor, Rudy Giuliani,
once known as America's Mayor, is endorsing Curtis Sliwa.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Furtis Sliwa has been a hero for New York from
the time almost he was born.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Think of Rudy Giuliani two points zero. I learned from
the best. The New York Congressman Mike Lawler confronts MINORTI
leader Hakim Jeffries in the halls of Congress over the shutdown.
It was must see TV.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Did you send you no?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm here Ona had.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
To shut the government down, and.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
My constituents are suffering as a result of your ridiculous
ploy because you're so afraid of Zoron Mondami.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
By the way, why are you endorsing him?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
By the way, if you endorse him from a well first,
are you gonna endorse them for mast?

Speaker 8 (02:00):
You're a complete and total embarrassment right now.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
To answer the question, well, there is no joy in
the Bronx. The Yankees will have to wait till next year.

Speaker 9 (02:12):
Well, one er bitch god.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Teff hof them strikes out Cody Bellingcher and the Blue
Jays have done it. They have not talked to New
York Yankees. Now, let's talk more about that debate in
New Jersey. Wow, wasn't expecting that. Let's find out if
doctor Benjamin Dwerkin, founding director of the Rowan Institute for

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Public Policy and Citizenship at Rowan University in Glassboro, New Jersey,
was expecting that. I can't see how you would be, Benjamin.
That was that was something that was a Mikey Cheryl
we haven't seen yet.

Speaker 10 (02:57):
It was really interesting. Good morning, Larry, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
God. Sure, yeah.

Speaker 10 (03:04):
Look, last night's debate between the Democrat Congresswoman Mikey Ryl
the Republican Jack Cheddarelli, former state assemblymen, had a lot
of fireworks. But here's my prediction, it will not make
a difference. The people who watch these debates aren't convinced
they know who they're voting for. It's simply there's just

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unless you have a major implosion like Joe Biden did
a year or so ago in his first debate with
Donald Trump, unless you completely collapse, that's when it debate
makes a difference. And without that, these two they each
had some good punches, there were some fireworks, and you know,

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largely it's a draw. This election is going to come
down to turnout and who can rally the forces on
their side more effectively.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I thought what was most interesting about it was Mikey
Cheryl because probably like you, I've met her over the years.
I've interviewed her over the years, and I've always kind
of liked her. That wasn't her. That was different than
what we've seen from Mikey Cheryl, and it led me
to believe that their internal polling shows she might be
in trouble, that she had to show some strength, she

(04:23):
had to go after him because she was aggressive, accusing
him of killing tens of thousands of people. What do
you think, Oh, look, I.

Speaker 10 (04:33):
Think every candidate gets the same advice for going into
a debate. Smile and attack. That's what you need to
do in a debate. So both these people, both Jack
Shenarelli and Mikey Cheryl are very nice people personally. They're kind,
they're interesting, they're legitimate, they're certainly both qualified to be governor.

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But what we saw last night was a different venue,
and this was the last chance that anybody was going
to get to see them for you know, side by side.
So this was the opportunity to smile and attack, and
I think she did it. We sometimes don't expect it.
Sometimes there are certain folks who don't expect to hear

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that from a female candidate. There are certain there are
other folks just because she's a rookie at this. You know,
Jack Chatarelli has been running for governor for ten years.
He's a very sharp and smooth politician because he's so
experienced at running statewide. This is Mikey Cheryl's first time

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running statewide, and she's had a steep learning curve. But
it's no longer the beginning of the season. We're now
into the you know, the playoff race here, and she
came out swinging.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, it wasn't only because she's a woman, and it's
not only because of it's a debate. It's the last
important debate. I have seen her on the campaign trail.
I saw her in the last debate for the New
Jersey Globe. I have talked to her, I've seen her
in the campaign trail. This was a different person. I've
never seen this from her before, and that's what surprised me.

(06:15):
And you have to you know, the polls very early
on had her up, if you believe them, by twenty points,
and then it went to nine points, and then it
went to time. Yeah, and so it's definitely seems like
it's going towards Jack Chittarelli. And I think she had
to do something big.

Speaker 10 (06:33):
And you're probably right in that. I mean, look, the
last time you and I got a chance to speak, Larry,
and again I appreciate this, another opportunity to talk to
you about this, we said, you know, this is going
to be a tight race. This is a very competitive seat.
A lot of people have this perception of New Jersey
of just being a very democratic, very blue state, and

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in for US Senate races, for president races, you can
make that argument, but when it comes to running for
when on New Jerseyan's vote for governor, it's a very
very purple state. Can go either way. We have an
open seat, and both sides think they have a very
legitimate chance to win, and so things are gonna get

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rough over these last few weeks.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, it's funny. I talked to Mike Kelly from North
Jersey dot Com. We have him on every week, and
he has said from the beginning, even when even when
it showed that Michael Cheryl was up twenty points, she said,
this is he said, this is Jack Chitarelli's to lose.
Do you agree with that.

Speaker 10 (07:39):
I don't know whether it's Jack Terrell's to lose. I mean,
if if it was, we would see public polling that
showed him ahead, but it hasn't. What we've seen is
just a very close race. Cheddarelli has run a very
effective campaign, which is why his numbers have gone up

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and we are now in the final People have been
voting by mail for a couple of weeks already, so
this election is already on. We're in the middle of
election season. We're gonna head towards the final ten days
when people could vote in person at certain locations in
their county, and then we'll obviously have whoever is left.

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Everyone's going to try and get them to come to
the polls on election day itself. This was always going
to be a close race. Democrats think that there's going
to be a backlash against Donald Trump. They think that
their candidate is qualified and attractive and engage engaging and

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interesting and intriguing to the voters, all the things that
you want when you're trying to pitch at Canady and
they think they have the best ideas, and Republicans think
the exact same thing, and they're excited. They've been doing
better in some races, but they haven't won, but they
think this is the one. Republicans in New Jersey think
this is the race where they're gonna be able to

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push Jack Chenarelli over the top. It's going to be
close to This is the kind of race that could
be decided by a few thousand votes one way or
the other, or even just a couple percentage points. So
everybody is out there, everyone's trying to avoid making mistakes

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on both sides, and you'll see these kinds of punches thrown,
whether it's in a debate or whether it's going to
be on the campaign.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Trail, and in the ads that are coming out. They're
gonna be flooding the TV in the next couple of weeks.
Doctor Benjamin Juorkin, founding director of the Rowan Institute for
Public Policy and Citizenship at Rowan University at Glassborough, New Jersey.
We'll have you back soon. Thanks, look forward to it.

Speaker 11 (09:54):
Larry.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Thanks thanks a lot. Man. I will point this about
the polls that he just mentioned. The last time injectioned
really was down twelve points in the last poll and
he almost won. So I do think there's a bit
of a bias in the New Jersey polls. We shall see. Well,
Dolly Parton is sick and tired of everyone saying she's
sick and tired, so she proved everyone that she is

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just fine. We'll let you hear what she did, and
you'll hear from Dolly yourself. Plus tickets to see the
New York City Wine and Food Festival. Stay with us,
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Speaker 12 (11:06):
I'm not Israeli. But my god, all those years, the
suffering people on both sides, the Jewish people, the Palestinian people.
It tears came in my eyes. It's just amazing and amazing.
I'm praying that a holes, my friend, I'm praying at holes.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I think it's going to this time, because they played
it so smart. It wasn't just two sides that came together.
It's Europe, it's the Arab countries. It's cutter, it's Saudi Arabia,
it's Egypt. Even the Palestinians were celebrating. They got Harmast
to agree to this. It is exceptional what Donald Trump

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has done here.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Well, if they do give Donald Trump the Nobel Peace Prize,
I hope he rejects it. Says I will not accept
this prize and points out that they gave one to
Obama for no reason, and points out all the other
historical figures that received the Nobel Peace Prize that turned
out to be evil. I think maybe was Hitler one hmm, interesting,

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but he should turn it down.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I have to look up if Hitler ever won. Did
Hitler win the Nobel Peace Prize? I have to I
will take a look at that. I've early on. I
don't even know what he would have won for. I'm
trying to figure that out.

Speaker 9 (12:32):
I don't think so, Mikey.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
Cheryl definitely overplayed her hand on that. She should never
have gone after him so many times on it just crazy.
It made her look insane, and that's desperate. She's desperate
because she knows she's losing. And you could see that
just in the way she was trying to attack him

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on fake information.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I agree with you.

Speaker 10 (13:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Look, I love ben j Workin, I really do. I
think he's a very smart guy, but he always plays
it down the middle because he has to deal with
both sides and he doesn't want to say something on
the radio to upset one of the candidates because he
wants them to come to their schools. So I get it.
I was trying to get him to say it and

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he wasn't going to say it. But obviously she's desperate.
That's not her, that is just not her. They told her,
you have to do this, you have to be stronger,
and she did come off almost crazy. You killed ten
thousand people, You killed ten thousand people over and over
and over again, and that's just an outright lie. And

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is it going to work. No, I think everybody's going
to have the same exact opinion that you have. Let's
talk about Dolly Parton. You'll remember there was this emergency.
She had to cancel her tours. She had to go
to the hospital, and there was a lot of people
out there that were really worried that, you know this,
this might be really serious considering her age, you know

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what could possibly happen to Dolly Parton. Well, she put
out a video she looks great, a number one, and
she wanted everybody to know she's just fine.

Speaker 13 (14:15):
I know lately everybody thinks that I am sicker than
I am.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Do I look sick to you?

Speaker 13 (14:21):
I'm working hard here.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
She's a national treasure isn't she.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
She's just wonderful.

Speaker 13 (14:28):
Back when my husband Carl was very sick, that was
for a long time, and then when he passed, I
didn't take care of myself, so I let a lot
of things go that I should have been taken care of.
So anyway, when I got around to it, the doctor said,
we need to take care of this, We need to
take care of that. Nothing major.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
She is a national treasurer. You said that very well, Jacqueline,
And it's just so nice. It is so nice to
see her and to know that she is okay. And
she also promised she's going to be touring again soon.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I hope so.

Speaker 14 (15:02):
And I think it's a great message which she said
that people who are caregivers to you know, someone in
their family, they usually don't take care of themselves.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yes, and it's so important.

Speaker 14 (15:12):
And now she's saying, hey, you know what, I've got
to do what I wasn't doing.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
And look what's work for her.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
And she looked, she looks so good.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
And now Jacqueline Carl with the eight thirty News Jacqueline.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Larry, Good Morning.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
President Trump says Israel and Jamas have signed on to
the first phase of his proposed police peace plan. Trump
posted on truth Social that all the hostages will be
released very soon and Israel will withdraw their troops to
an agree uponline as the first steps towards a strong, durable,
and everlasting piece. And the judge who sentenced Shonday Combs

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to fifty months in prison last week is responding to
his request to serve time at a New Jersey prison.

Speaker 15 (15:52):
The rapper and business mogul requested to serve time at
the low security for Dick's Federal Correctional Facility, which has
a drug rehabilitation program. The judge responded to the request,
agreeing Combs should do time as close to New York
City as possible, but could not assign a specific prison.
The judge said the Bureau of Prisons chooses the exact
facility where someone serves, but did recommend Combs be placed

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in the metropolitan area and in a substance abuse program.
Natalie Migliori wor News.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
So listen to this and tell me if you would
or even could accept this invitation. According to Oddity Central,
the world's most expensive burger costs eleven thousand dollars, and
get this, it can only be experienced by invitation at
as a door Ulpa restaurant in Spain. The burger took

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eight years of research and development to create, and its
exact ingredients remain a secret. Can you imagine an R
and D department for a burger? If selected guests are
invited to a private room and served a burger made
with the three best meets in the world, the most
exclusive cheese in Europe, and a special sauce prepared with

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a luxury spirit, would you do it?

Speaker 10 (17:07):
Pay?

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Eleven grand for the world's best burger. I would how
much do I have to spend against eleven grand?

Speaker 5 (17:13):
And only if you're invited, So you'd have to kind
of trick them all into thinking you could come and
like you're like a vip.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Enough to have this burger. She even tastes this burger.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
But if you did, if you managed to put on
your best Sunday best and come into a restaurant and
they said, we'd like to invite you into your private
room to have the world's best burger. But it's eleven
thousand dollars, will you do it?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I have to have a whole lot money, more money
than I have right now to spend eleven thousand dollars
on a hamburger. I'd love to be in that position.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Kill me.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Both sisters are fries included?

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Listen and if they are, count me in because I
am a that's my weakness.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Fries a platter. Yeah, we want the deluxel.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
For eleven grand and a dessert for the for Pete's sake. No,
I really I would love to try this burger. And
I would love to hear from anyone who knows anyone
who's tried this burger. But I don't think we know anybody.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
No, no, I think that Babe Jeremy.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Piffin has had this burger.

Speaker 14 (18:16):
We're gonna have to start a GoFundMe.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Page for the burger and then find the invite. So yeah,
we'll start working on it. Joe, Okay, thank you, Thank you, Jacqueline.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
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at nine twenty five. Excuse me at eight twenty five.
So will Rikers Island remain open? Well, that depends on
who wins the Mayor's race. I'll explain next. So I
have never quite understood the closing of Rikers Island. None

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of it really makes sense because you still a lot
of people say, well, guess what you can sell Rikers Island,
and they're gonna put up apartments and it'll be really
cool and really nice, and there'll be a lot of
money coming into the city and it'll be nice people
for the least place for the rich people to live. Okay,
all right, I get the interest in that, I get

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the real estate, and I get the money that can
be made. But how much money has to be spent
to build a new prison, how much money would have
to be spent to house prisoners somewhere else? Why does
that make sense to anyone? That we will have to

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hold on to Rikers until we can have a new place,
and so we'll be losing that money and spending that
money elsewhere instead of Rikers Island. And that's why I love,
just love the idea of keeping Rikers improving it. Do

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any work that needs to be done to Rikers Island,
But don't get rid of it for what?

Speaker 5 (20:19):
For what?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Because you don't like the idea of that. Guess what?
People are still going to go to prison. It just
won't be there. And it seems to make so much
sense just to keep it. Am I missing something? It's
just because the people that want cashless bail, and the
people that want sanctuary city, and the people that want
all criminals to roam the street have decided Rikers Island

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is a problem. It is the symbol of everything that
is bad with the system, not the criminals. Rikers Island
it houses criminals, and we need to let criminals roam
the streets free. See, it's not about Rikers. It's not
about the fact that it's a prisoner, it's getting older,

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it's dilapidated, or anything like that. Is they just don't
want to jail criminals. It is this bizarre, this weird
democratic disease that they love criminals and they think that
criminals are treated unfairly, which is why they have all

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these soft on crime policies. It's the only reason it
can be. And that's why I'm really stunned at Andrew
Cuomo because he came out and said the same thing.
Keep Rikers.

Speaker 16 (21:43):
Let's make a major start by stopping a major debacle,
which is the new jail construction to replace Rikers Island.
The writing is on the wall. It promises to be
New York City's big ditch. It is already years later,
billion's over budget and obsolete.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Right, you're already wasting the money. Why if you're already
gonna have another prison, why get rid of Rikers. It
makes no sense at all. And I love the fact
that Curtis Lee will also agrees. In twenty nineteen, he
has a press conference, we must close Rikers Island. Two

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weeks ago, he once again reiterated he should have been
closed a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Where would he have put the inmates back?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Then? You can't trust Cuomo.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
He's the flip flop guy.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, Curtis Lee has always thought that Rikers should stay around.
He's just blasting Cuomo now, So what is going on here?
Andrew Cuomo needs Republicans, Andrew Cuomo needs moderates. Andrew Cuomo
needs sensible people. The problem is, I don't think there's

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enough sensible voters. And the reason I believe that is
the fact that Mom Donnie's ahead by so much when
he's promising all these things he just absolutely can't do.
And by the way, oh, he doesn't want Rikers open
at all.

Speaker 11 (23:20):
Andrew Cuomo's proposal to take that which is broken, that
which is morally bankrupt, that which is a stain on
our city, and to keep it open it's a betrayal

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not only of the law as it stands today, but
also of what New Yorkers actually want.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I don't think a building can be morally bankrupt.
But that's a small point. I don't think it's corrupt.
I don't think it's a stain on the city to
have a prison. See, he doesn't want any he doesn't
want anybody put in jail. It is hard of hearts.

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He believes with the Democratic Socialist Party that the police
should be defunded. There shouldn't be police, all social workers.
He can't come out and say that because he knows
that he'd then lose all these voters, had lose the election,
and it'd proved to everybody that he really is crazy.
So all he's saying is get rid of Rikers. And

(24:28):
then we know that this new project, this new jai,
this new prison is going to take a long time
to build. The way it's going right now, it's a
little bit of an embarrassment. And here this comes. This
proposal about Rikers Island comes from a guy who wants
to now keep building this new prison and putting a

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lot of money into it, and it may never actually happen.
You can add that to all of the policies that
he can't pay for.

Speaker 11 (24:58):
I continue to be confident that the most straightforward and
productive way to raise the revenue for this initiative is
by increasing taxes. On the top one percent of New
Yorkers by two percent.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh that won't be enough. No, no, no, not for all
the things you want to do. You also need to
raise the corporate tax, not only driving the rich out,
but also driving all of the companies out as well.

Speaker 16 (25:22):
None of his ideas actually make any sense or would
make any difference. I am the opposite.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I'm not going to be su.

Speaker 16 (25:34):
Mister Trump's dream would be mister Mundamis. He'd run around
the country with a little picture of mister Mundami and say,
look at the Democrats. They just elected this commie. I
have to come in and I have to take over
because this kid can't protect New Yorker.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah. Actually I agree with him on that. I think
he's absolutely correct about that. I don't know. Can New
Yorkers hold their notes and vote for Andrew Cuomo? You
might have to New Yorker's way in on the historic
Middle East peace deal and whether President Trump deserves the
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to the Middle East and do they think Donald Trump
will win or deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. Natalie Migleori
gets the Beat on the Street.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Natalie, Yeah, Good.

Speaker 17 (27:10):
Morning, Larry Well. Two days after remark the two year
anniversary of the Hamas attacks against Israel, there may finally
be peace in the Middle East. The Israeli government is
expected to approve the first phase of a deal within
the hour. So how do people in New York feel
about this news.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
We're happy that the hostages are going to come home,
and we're happy that hopefully things will be more peaceful.
There's a lot of question, I mean, when you make
deals with people that you know aren't established countries or
something like that. There are some fears, but we're definitely
hoping that the nightmare will be over for everybody after
two years.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
I think it's amazing.

Speaker 18 (27:47):
I'm really hoping that it goes through and that all
of our hostages come home, and I think it's the
start of hopefully the next phase of peace and prosperity
for everyone in that area.

Speaker 17 (28:00):
The White House expects remaining hostages to be released. Israel
believes twenty of the forty eight are still alive. Palestinian
prisoners will also be let go Israel. We'll pull back
troops in Gaza in stages. People took to the streets
in Gaza to celebrate, but are much more skeptical here.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
I don't think there's any trust, but I think there's
a reality that you have to sometimes make an agreement
with a party you don't trust because you can't keep
on just stretching out and fighting the war in a
situation where the families are suffering.

Speaker 18 (28:35):
And I feel like they've done this before, where they
agree and then they're like, oh, actually we have extra
contingencies that we want to put on it, and they
keep changing, which is why I am not posting anything
or celebrating until we actually physically have our hostages back
in Israel.

Speaker 17 (28:53):
And this part of the peace plan may have been
discussed in Egypt, but was put forth by the Trump administration,
which it already has people speculating that the President deserves
a Nobel Peace Prize for this. So do people agree only?

Speaker 9 (29:07):
No, I mean whatever he does is by it's pure accident.
It's a fool's look. I mean, he's not the only
one who's been working on this. I think we really
have to look to Europe who really led these talks.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
No.

Speaker 18 (29:19):
I think he's done a lot of work in getting
this done, but I think there are a lot of
people behind him that have helped as well, And so
to acknowledge this one person would feel wrong in my opinion.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
I think if somebody deserves something, he definitely deserves it.
I mean it's not just there. I mean he's had
peace deals with Indian Pakistan and come and go and
r run to another place, and so I think, you
know he's trying.

Speaker 17 (29:44):
Yeah, and this has been along two years for the
people fighting the wars, the people involved in this just
anybody who kind of feels like they're emotional. I've been
spending two years chasing down people on this topic, Larry,
many of whom just don't want to talk. I've been
to go Lumbia University, which was at the center of
pro Palestinian protests, more times than I could count, and

(30:05):
it was always a hard to get people's opinions on
this specific topic. So this morning I asked people why
they think it's so difficult for people to talk about
this specific issue.

Speaker 18 (30:16):
I think cancel culture is really scary. I think like
people are afraid for their jobs. It's really sad. I
think it's become so polarizing that people can't have a
discussion without like firmly believing their view, especially people who
have no tie to this conflict at all.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
It's hard to pay attention to a lot of the
international news because America is so with the Trump administration
is so scary.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
So I glance at the news.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
And then I go to yoga to chill out.

Speaker 17 (30:50):
I think I'm going to take up yoga, but this
job I better start doing. The downward dog is something
I don't know, and you know, but but that's really
what's going on. Are you gonna join me in yoga?

Speaker 8 (31:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
My god, No, I don't look good in yoga. It's
a real bad look for me. By the way, I
think the reason people won't talk about it is because
they don't want to give Donald Trump the credit they
do in Israel, they do in Palestine. In this country,
they don't want to give him the credit. And and
you know what, I kind of like that better because

(31:26):
those are the people that know he's the one that
did this, and so at least internally they know the truth.
They just don't want to say it out loud. That's
that's what I think was going on.

Speaker 13 (31:40):
What a take.

Speaker 17 (31:41):
But you know, every morning it would be even under
the Bided administration, it would have been a hustle to
get somebody to talk.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
He won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing, doing
nothing doing the Obama administration. He didn't do a thing.
He just got into office. He got elected. That's why
they gave it to him. Anyway, Thanks so much, Jacqueline Carl.
We'll be back in a moment right after the nine
o'clock news