The New York Times Story that came out about President Trump allegedly calling Cuomo and Eric Adams about stopping Mamdani, could change the landscape of the election come November. JC thinks that Trump coming in could be a positive addition to stopping Mamdani, but how does Trump view NYC'S future?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get to my favorite political analyst, J C. Polanco,
who takes time out of his busy media schedule to
be with us and we really appreciate it. He is
also an assistant professor at the University of Mount Saint Vincent. JC.
Thanks so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Always love coming on. Thank you for the invitation.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well, listen, it's a great day to have you too.
Because this New York Times story I think changed, at
least for the time being, the trajectory of this race.
I think it was all about law and order for
a second after the Park Avenue shooting, and that wasn't
good for Zoram Mom Donnie. In a way, this story
(00:43):
about Donald Trump allegedly calling Andrew Cuomo and Derek Adams
and talking about how they can stop Zora and Mom Donnie,
I think it's the best thing that could happen to
the Mom Donnie campaign right now, don't you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, that's interesting. It's interesting because remember that there are
pockets in the city Larry where Donald Trump is very popular.
We know that from the twenty twenty four results, and
his you know, coming in in any way whatsoever on
this mayoral race would have great benefits in some pockets,
but for the majority of the city. If I were
(01:19):
to take a poll, I think COVID nineteen is more
popular than President Trump. You know this. You know this,
So you know it's interesting because President Trump, he knows
that he knows what I just said, and if he
were to get involved in this race, it'll be the
kiss of death in November for whoever he endorses. So
how does President Trump look at the city that he
(01:41):
identifies with that he grew up in, not get involved
in any way whatsoever, and then see the reality of
how difficult it would be to beat Mamdani with four
people running against him, just mathematically. And lastly, I remember
what we talked about a couple of weeks ago. The
Republicans need Mayor Mom Donnie in the midterm elections. If
(02:03):
Mayor Mum Donnie wins, this would be a treasure trove
of the commercials for Republicans in purple districts to associate
the Democrats with a socialist who has some Marxists and
communist positions. So you know, you're you're in a rough
spot of your President Trump because you need Mayor Mum
Donnie as the pinata in order to keep your Republican majority,
(02:26):
but you don't want to see New York City become
a socialist city. So it's very tough. So you're right,
him getting involved here is could be good news for
for Mum Donnie. At the end of the day, Let's.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Take everything you said and figure out what Donald Trump
was thinking, because what we've found out. I found out
from the New York Times documentary that Maggie Haberman, who
did the story, is very close with Donald Trump, and
sometimes he leaks stuff to her on his own and
this so this story comes out that now he's trying
(02:58):
to stop Zorin Mom Donnie, and he knows what you
just said, He knows how that would be taken in
this city. He knows that would help Zorin Mom Donnie.
So the question is because that would help the Republicans
in the midterms, and a lot of people say that
Zora mom Donnie winning would win Mike Lawler's seat for
Mike Lawler and in Rockland and Westchester County. So so
(03:22):
did he do it on purpose?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh, that's that's interesting. I've been I've been grappling with
that for the last couple of days. I have been
because you know, I don't. I don't know if he
if he, if the President really wanted to do this
on purpose, he would just say it right. He would
say we need Governor Cuomo. He would just say we
need to make sure that we defeat, and that alone
would would almost guarantee him Donny victory.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But I just wanted to jump in. He has some
deniability this way.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He does have some deniability. But when was the last
time that we saw President Trump one deniability and was
a good strategy for him? Happened Larry recently.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's happened a few times recently. When he doesn't want
to be connected to his story, he'll let like Epstein
he was, he was way he was steering away from
in the beginning. Pat's all Bam, Bondi's thing. That's not
my thing. So he will do that every once in
a while, You're right. Usually he doesn't. Usually he's out
in front and everything. I think he's learning. I'm just
wondering if he's playing chess with this while everybody else
(04:24):
is playing checkers, he.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
May be playing chess. He played chess twenty four to seven.
I'll tell you this, Larry, it's you know, I have
Curtis Leewa on my podcast this Morning centered with J. C.
Palanco for your viewers, and I'm gonna ask him. I'm
gonna ask him straight up. You know, can you see
yourself winning in this situation where you have four people
running when the President hasn't made an endorsement yet, and
you know, what are your thoughts about beating mom? DONI
(04:49):
considering the numbers. I'll ask him and see, you know,
what his position is on the President. I think that'll
be interesting. That's telling off of your question.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, that would be really interesting because from what I remember,
and you probably know this better than I, he doesn't
have the best relationship with Donald Trump, does he, Curtis
leew No, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know he respects him. I've seen his interviews in
the past. He was never a MAGA guy, you know.
You know, he doesn't have the conservative line. He's more
of a Republican along what we normally consider to be
a New York Republican, right, someone who is down the
middle on a lot of issues. And he doesn't have
that maga relationship with the President, but I know it's
a respectful one from what I've seen. Now. I don't
(05:32):
know whether or not quite. Frankly, you know, President Trump
getting involved in any way even supporting the Republican candidate
will make any sense at all to try to defeat Mamdani. See,
this is a very tough situation with so many candidates running.
And another thing, there are other ways that the President
could be supportive in bringing people together to defeat a socialist,
(05:53):
and that may be asking donors to support one of
the candidates that has the best shot, because as you
can see, money's going to be tight going into November.
So there's a lot of other ways other than an
endorsement where the President can be helpful.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I know there's a lot of people that listen to
this show that are rooting for Curtis Leewood. Does he
have a shot?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know, he's raised the most money, he's going up
in the polls. You know, I'm going to ask him
about all of that this morning, Larry, so I could
be honestly, I want to get that to want to
get his answers from him. Mathematically, I think when you
take a look at four people running hard, beating up
on each other, I mean you got to hear the
campaigning against each other. When when you know Curtis Lee.
(06:35):
What goes in on former Governor Cuomo? He pulls no punches.
I just wonder how helpful is that in November. I'm
sitting here off and thinking about it. I'm going to
ask him this. I mean, when you're beating up on
all the other independence, does it make it more difficult
for there to be a unified voice in November. I
think it's difficult right now for me to tell you
that going into November, as of today, that he's going
(06:56):
to win. The way that he can win is if
in the next couple of and I know your viewers
are curious about this, in the next couple of months,
do the other independent candidates fall off? Right? Do they
no longer campaign actively? If that happens and Curtis continues
campaigning and raising money like he has, then the hope
would be for Curtis is that the people that drop
off are telling are coming over to his camp.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hey, JC, let me quickly because we're running out of time.
I want to ask you the most important question. How
do people hear your podcasts?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Oh, they could go to centered with JC dot com
And I'm on all the platforms, YouTube everywhere, Instagram everywhere,
that you can imagine, but centered with JC is where
we post them and it'll be up tonight. So we're
recording in about an hour and it's gonna be a
great interview.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Wonderful j C. Polanco, political analyst and University of Mount
Saint Vincent assistant professor. Thanks a lot, JC, have a
good weekend, have.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
A great day. Thanks
Let's get to my favorite political analyst, J C. Polanco,
who takes time out of his busy media schedule to
be with us and we really appreciate it. He is
also an assistant professor at the University of Mount Saint Vincent. JC.
Thanks so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Always love coming on. Thank you for the invitation.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well, listen, it's a great day to have you too.
Because this New York Times story I think changed, at
least for the time being, the trajectory of this race.
I think it was all about law and order for
a second after the Park Avenue shooting, and that wasn't
good for Zoram Mom Donnie. In a way, this story
(00:43):
about Donald Trump allegedly calling Andrew Cuomo and Derek Adams
and talking about how they can stop Zora and Mom Donnie,
I think it's the best thing that could happen to
the Mom Donnie campaign right now, don't you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, that's interesting. It's interesting because remember that there are
pockets in the city Larry where Donald Trump is very popular.
We know that from the twenty twenty four results, and
his you know, coming in in any way whatsoever on
this mayoral race would have great benefits in some pockets,
but for the majority of the city. If I were
(01:19):
to take a poll, I think COVID nineteen is more
popular than President Trump. You know this. You know this,
So you know it's interesting because President Trump, he knows
that he knows what I just said, and if he
were to get involved in this race, it'll be the
kiss of death in November for whoever he endorses. So
how does President Trump look at the city that he
(01:41):
identifies with that he grew up in, not get involved
in any way whatsoever, and then see the reality of
how difficult it would be to beat Mamdani with four
people running against him, just mathematically. And lastly, I remember
what we talked about a couple of weeks ago. The
Republicans need Mayor Mom Donnie in the midterm elections. If
(02:03):
Mayor Mum Donnie wins, this would be a treasure trove
of the commercials for Republicans in purple districts to associate
the Democrats with a socialist who has some Marxists and
communist positions. So you know, you're you're in a rough
spot of your President Trump because you need Mayor Mum
Donnie as the pinata in order to keep your Republican majority,
(02:26):
but you don't want to see New York City become
a socialist city. So it's very tough. So you're right,
him getting involved here is could be good news for
for Mum Donnie. At the end of the day, Let's.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Take everything you said and figure out what Donald Trump
was thinking, because what we've found out. I found out
from the New York Times documentary that Maggie Haberman, who
did the story, is very close with Donald Trump, and
sometimes he leaks stuff to her on his own and
this so this story comes out that now he's trying
(02:58):
to stop Zorin Mom Donnie, and he knows what you
just said, He knows how that would be taken in
this city. He knows that would help Zorin Mom Donnie.
So the question is because that would help the Republicans
in the midterms, and a lot of people say that
Zora mom Donnie winning would win Mike Lawler's seat for
Mike Lawler and in Rockland and Westchester County. So so
(03:22):
did he do it on purpose?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh, that's that's interesting. I've been I've been grappling with
that for the last couple of days. I have been
because you know, I don't. I don't know if he
if he, if the President really wanted to do this
on purpose, he would just say it right. He would
say we need Governor Cuomo. He would just say we
need to make sure that we defeat, and that alone
would would almost guarantee him Donny victory.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But I just wanted to jump in. He has some
deniability this way.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He does have some deniability. But when was the last
time that we saw President Trump one deniability and was
a good strategy for him? Happened Larry recently.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's happened a few times recently. When he doesn't want
to be connected to his story, he'll let like Epstein
he was, he was way he was steering away from
in the beginning. Pat's all Bam, Bondi's thing. That's not
my thing. So he will do that every once in
a while, You're right. Usually he doesn't. Usually he's out
in front and everything. I think he's learning. I'm just
wondering if he's playing chess with this while everybody else
(04:24):
is playing checkers, he.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
May be playing chess. He played chess twenty four to seven.
I'll tell you this, Larry, it's you know, I have
Curtis Leewa on my podcast this Morning centered with J. C.
Palanco for your viewers, and I'm gonna ask him. I'm
gonna ask him straight up. You know, can you see
yourself winning in this situation where you have four people
running when the President hasn't made an endorsement yet, and
you know, what are your thoughts about beating mom? DONI
(04:49):
considering the numbers. I'll ask him and see, you know,
what his position is on the President. I think that'll
be interesting. That's telling off of your question.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, that would be really interesting because from what I remember,
and you probably know this better than I, he doesn't
have the best relationship with Donald Trump, does he, Curtis
leew No, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know he respects him. I've seen his interviews in
the past. He was never a MAGA guy, you know.
You know, he doesn't have the conservative line. He's more
of a Republican along what we normally consider to be
a New York Republican, right, someone who is down the
middle on a lot of issues. And he doesn't have
that maga relationship with the President, but I know it's
a respectful one from what I've seen. Now. I don't
(05:32):
know whether or not quite. Frankly, you know, President Trump
getting involved in any way even supporting the Republican candidate
will make any sense at all to try to defeat Mamdani. See,
this is a very tough situation with so many candidates running.
And another thing, there are other ways that the President
could be supportive in bringing people together to defeat a socialist,
(05:53):
and that may be asking donors to support one of
the candidates that has the best shot, because as you
can see, money's going to be tight going into November.
So there's a lot of other ways other than an
endorsement where the President can be helpful.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I know there's a lot of people that listen to
this show that are rooting for Curtis Leewood. Does he
have a shot?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know, he's raised the most money, he's going up
in the polls. You know, I'm going to ask him
about all of that this morning, Larry, so I could
be honestly, I want to get that to want to
get his answers from him. Mathematically, I think when you
take a look at four people running hard, beating up
on each other, I mean you got to hear the
campaigning against each other. When when you know Curtis Lee.
(06:35):
What goes in on former Governor Cuomo? He pulls no punches.
I just wonder how helpful is that in November. I'm
sitting here off and thinking about it. I'm going to
ask him this. I mean, when you're beating up on
all the other independence, does it make it more difficult
for there to be a unified voice in November. I
think it's difficult right now for me to tell you
that going into November, as of today, that he's going
(06:56):
to win. The way that he can win is if
in the next couple of and I know your viewers
are curious about this, in the next couple of months,
do the other independent candidates fall off? Right? Do they
no longer campaign actively? If that happens and Curtis continues
campaigning and raising money like he has, then the hope
would be for Curtis is that the people that drop
off are telling are coming over to his camp.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hey, JC, let me quickly because we're running out of time.
I want to ask you the most important question. How
do people hear your podcasts?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Oh, they could go to centered with JC dot com
And I'm on all the platforms, YouTube everywhere, Instagram everywhere,
that you can imagine, but centered with JC is where
we post them and it'll be up tonight. So we're
recording in about an hour and it's gonna be a
great interview.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Wonderful j C. Polanco, political analyst and University of Mount
Saint Vincent assistant professor. Thanks a lot, JC, have a
good weekend, have.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
A great day. Thanks
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