Zohran Mamdani is leading in the polls with Jewish Voters. Mamdani's vision is something that scares a lot of people.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now we want to get right to J. C. Polonco,
political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent assistant professor,
because it was a shocking poll came out. Now I
want to talk to him about the validity validity of polls.
But he has a podcast that I also want to
talk to him about. Let's start with that. The podcast,
(00:20):
you can tell me what it's called and where we
can find it. But the most important thing about this
podcast is that you sat down and interviewed Andrew Cuomo.
How did that go?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me, Larry yep. The
podcast is called Centered with J. C. Polanco. Our first
guest was former Governor Andrew Cuomo. Phenomenal opportunity to speak
to him, find out what went wrong in the Democratic primary,
what is he doing different, what does he see happening,
The danger of an Assembly Minmum Donnie winning the mayoralty
(00:53):
and how he sees this playing out. He talked about
the Assembly misspositions on Israel, why some of it is
not resonating with some of the people in the in
the in the electorate, talk about the future of the
Democratic Party and when you go to all your major
platforms where you get your podcasts, you can go to
Centered with JC dot com and watch it there. You
(01:17):
can go on YouTube Centered with JC and see it
there as well. One of the things that he holds
in on is you know, how would an Assemblyman Moum
Donnie reacted as mayor last week after the terrible shooting
tragedy and the relationship that Assembly Mum Donnie would have
with the NYPD considering some of the things that have
come up from his twitter now, Laria, I gotta tell you.
(01:39):
I asked, I asked the governor. I said, Governor, do
you think the media is given the assemblyment a pass
considering all of these tweets and all of these positions
that we're seeing now. And he said no. He said
it was his responsibility to put those things out there
and he failed to do that, and the media would
have responded had he done that. And I thought that
was an interesting perspective. But it's a lot, a lot
(02:01):
to this, a lot to go through, and I encourage
your listeners to go check it out. We talk about
some of those issues that you're talking about here as well.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Larry did so a pole hadn't come out at this
point when you did the interview.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, it hadn't come out yet. You know, we have
courtesy was our next guest, and we'll be able to
talk about it next time. He's coming in on Friday
and we're going to ask him about the poll. But no,
the poll hadn't come in yet at the time. This
is an interesting poll, though, Larry. I'm sure you know
when you take a look at how broad it is
and how interesting it is, because in this poll it's
(02:37):
in every language, it talks to every single demographic, and
I think there's a lot for us to break down
in that poll. And whether or not your listeners would
think it's an outliar or whether they think it's actually
the real deal.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, I think it's biased. It's done by Zenith Research,
which is a collaboration with Public Broadcast Progress Solution, I
should say, And it was conducted and run by a
meet Seeing Baga, who is known as an ally of
Mandani and an advisor to his campaign. And so I
(03:11):
got a feeling and that's what I wanted to talk
to you about today. These polls, sometimes when it doesn't
come out of a university, many times they can be
a little bit suspicious, like when Cuomo had all those
polls coming out during the primary that we're done by
people that were supporting Andrew Cuomo. I just find that
(03:31):
really a little bit shady. When these polls come out,
And because you know, you know JC, you've been involved
with this type of polling. You can phrase these questions
a certain way to get an answer you want, can't you?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You absolutely canding you're right about that. The veracity of
the polls matter. That's why historically we look at those
university independent polls. The questions could be phrased in ways
that not only manipulate the numbers. But this is where
it gets really interesting. In order for a poll to
be valid, it must be scientific and must be randomized.
And what we see here is that it's tailored. And
(04:07):
when I read the introduction to the poll, the folks
that put it together said that they went to demographics,
they put it in different languages, etc. Et cetera, et cetera.
So I wonder how randomized is this poll? So you're right,
it's not only do we know that it's a biased poll, etc.
So I think that most of your viewers and most
of us here believe that this is going to be
(04:29):
an outlier poll but posts have let us down a lot.
You know, if I were a betting man, Larry, and
I put any money on Andrew Coma winning the primary
because of these polls, I would have lost my house, Larry.
So I'm panicked when it comes to pole. But what
I start thinking about is logically all majority of Jewish
(04:49):
voters in New York City supporting as summingimum Donnie. I
will tell you this, Larry. I think there's a generational
divide with Jewish voters, those under forty five and over
forty five, and I think that's one of the things
that this poem may get right. I think that the
younger Jewish voters that are not that don't go to
synagogue every every week, that are not practicing Jews as
(05:12):
much as others, will not be offended as much by not,
for example, demonizing and say never say globalizing Intifada, or
or other positions that I believe that would offend the
sensibilities of some of the Jewish voters in over forty five.
They may be less so inclined. They may be more
in line with their generation, less connected to Israel, and
(05:35):
view what's happening in Gaza as a major issue for
them when we see that some of the horrific pictures
coming out of Israel may be ones that offend them
the most and may say that, you know, being anti
netting Yahoo does not mean that you're anti Semitic. And
those voters in that window may be in line to
(05:55):
vote with Mamdani because he's of their generation as well.
Let's not forget you do see a divide among the
Jewish voters. The Jewish vote is not a monolist and
because of that, they're not going to vote like a monolist.
So you're going to see a split in the Jewish vote.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I agree, I agree, jac Hold on one second, seriously,
forty three percent of the Jewish vote is suddenly going
to go for Zorin Mamdanni after all week different.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, no, no, that's what it says in the poll,
and that's what the I.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Disagree with that. I disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, no, I disagree with it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think that's ridiculous. No, no, no way is that
de case. But I am going to share with you guys,
and I know your listeners know this. The younger Jewish
voter that's not as connected to his in the good
is not as likely going to be abfessed that we
have seen from the Ramdani camp. But by the way, Larry,
I have invited some of Mimmdanni to say with us
on centered with jay Z Polanco. Hopefully they'll take the invite.
(06:48):
I don't know. I've been very critical of the socialist
positions and some of these tweets on Israel and NYPD,
so I hope he sits with us. I don't know
if you will, And I'm going to ask him some
of these questions and I think poor no gotcha questions,
but I want to know what is this issue. I
think that some of these young Jewish voters are supporting you.
I'd like to know it in your viewers and your listeners. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, I hope you get to talk to him. He
seems to avoid people that he doesn't think are friendly
to him. He's very highly managed. I'd love to know
who's managing him.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
J C.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Polanco, a political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent
assistant professor. Look forward to listening to your podcast. Thanks
so much, Jase, Thank you day you too,
Now we want to get right to J. C. Polonco,
political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent assistant professor,
because it was a shocking poll came out. Now I
want to talk to him about the validity validity of polls.
But he has a podcast that I also want to
talk to him about. Let's start with that. The podcast,
(00:20):
you can tell me what it's called and where we
can find it. But the most important thing about this
podcast is that you sat down and interviewed Andrew Cuomo.
How did that go?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me, Larry yep. The
podcast is called Centered with J. C. Polanco. Our first
guest was former Governor Andrew Cuomo. Phenomenal opportunity to speak
to him, find out what went wrong in the Democratic primary,
what is he doing different, what does he see happening,
The danger of an Assembly Minmum Donnie winning the mayoralty
(00:53):
and how he sees this playing out. He talked about
the Assembly misspositions on Israel, why some of it is
not resonating with some of the people in the in
the in the electorate, talk about the future of the
Democratic Party and when you go to all your major
platforms where you get your podcasts, you can go to
Centered with JC dot com and watch it there. You
(01:17):
can go on YouTube Centered with JC and see it
there as well. One of the things that he holds
in on is you know, how would an Assemblyman Moum
Donnie reacted as mayor last week after the terrible shooting
tragedy and the relationship that Assembly Mum Donnie would have
with the NYPD considering some of the things that have
come up from his twitter now, Laria, I gotta tell you.
(01:39):
I asked, I asked the governor. I said, Governor, do
you think the media is given the assemblyment a pass
considering all of these tweets and all of these positions
that we're seeing now. And he said no. He said
it was his responsibility to put those things out there
and he failed to do that, and the media would
have responded had he done that. And I thought that
was an interesting perspective. But it's a lot, a lot
(02:01):
to this, a lot to go through, and I encourage
your listeners to go check it out. We talk about
some of those issues that you're talking about here as well.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Larry did so a pole hadn't come out at this
point when you did the interview.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, it hadn't come out yet. You know, we have
courtesy was our next guest, and we'll be able to
talk about it next time. He's coming in on Friday
and we're going to ask him about the poll. But no,
the poll hadn't come in yet at the time. This
is an interesting poll, though, Larry. I'm sure you know
when you take a look at how broad it is
and how interesting it is, because in this poll it's
(02:37):
in every language, it talks to every single demographic, and
I think there's a lot for us to break down
in that poll. And whether or not your listeners would
think it's an outliar or whether they think it's actually
the real deal.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, I think it's biased. It's done by Zenith Research,
which is a collaboration with Public Broadcast Progress Solution, I
should say, And it was conducted and run by a
meet Seeing Baga, who is known as an ally of
Mandani and an advisor to his campaign. And so I
(03:11):
got a feeling and that's what I wanted to talk
to you about today. These polls, sometimes when it doesn't
come out of a university, many times they can be
a little bit suspicious, like when Cuomo had all those
polls coming out during the primary that we're done by
people that were supporting Andrew Cuomo. I just find that
(03:31):
really a little bit shady. When these polls come out,
And because you know, you know JC, you've been involved
with this type of polling. You can phrase these questions
a certain way to get an answer you want, can't you?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You absolutely canding you're right about that. The veracity of
the polls matter. That's why historically we look at those
university independent polls. The questions could be phrased in ways
that not only manipulate the numbers. But this is where
it gets really interesting. In order for a poll to
be valid, it must be scientific and must be randomized.
And what we see here is that it's tailored. And
(04:07):
when I read the introduction to the poll, the folks
that put it together said that they went to demographics,
they put it in different languages, etc. Et cetera, et cetera.
So I wonder how randomized is this poll? So you're right,
it's not only do we know that it's a biased poll, etc.
So I think that most of your viewers and most
of us here believe that this is going to be
(04:29):
an outlier poll but posts have let us down a lot.
You know, if I were a betting man, Larry, and
I put any money on Andrew Coma winning the primary
because of these polls, I would have lost my house, Larry.
So I'm panicked when it comes to pole. But what
I start thinking about is logically all majority of Jewish
(04:49):
voters in New York City supporting as summingimum Donnie. I
will tell you this, Larry. I think there's a generational
divide with Jewish voters, those under forty five and over
forty five, and I think that's one of the things
that this poem may get right. I think that the
younger Jewish voters that are not that don't go to
synagogue every every week, that are not practicing Jews as
(05:12):
much as others, will not be offended as much by not,
for example, demonizing and say never say globalizing Intifada, or
or other positions that I believe that would offend the
sensibilities of some of the Jewish voters in over forty five.
They may be less so inclined. They may be more
in line with their generation, less connected to Israel, and
(05:35):
view what's happening in Gaza as a major issue for
them when we see that some of the horrific pictures
coming out of Israel may be ones that offend them
the most and may say that, you know, being anti
netting Yahoo does not mean that you're anti Semitic. And
those voters in that window may be in line to
(05:55):
vote with Mamdani because he's of their generation as well.
Let's not forget you do see a divide among the
Jewish voters. The Jewish vote is not a monolist and
because of that, they're not going to vote like a monolist.
So you're going to see a split in the Jewish vote.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I agree, I agree, jac Hold on one second, seriously,
forty three percent of the Jewish vote is suddenly going
to go for Zorin Mamdanni after all week different.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, no, no, that's what it says in the poll,
and that's what the I.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Disagree with that. I disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, no, I disagree with it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I think that's ridiculous. No, no, no way is that
de case. But I am going to share with you guys,
and I know your listeners know this. The younger Jewish
voter that's not as connected to his in the good
is not as likely going to be abfessed that we
have seen from the Ramdani camp. But by the way, Larry,
I have invited some of Mimmdanni to say with us
on centered with jay Z Polanco. Hopefully they'll take the invite.
(06:48):
I don't know. I've been very critical of the socialist
positions and some of these tweets on Israel and NYPD,
so I hope he sits with us. I don't know
if you will, And I'm going to ask him some
of these questions and I think poor no gotcha questions,
but I want to know what is this issue. I
think that some of these young Jewish voters are supporting you.
I'd like to know it in your viewers and your listeners. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, I hope you get to talk to him. He
seems to avoid people that he doesn't think are friendly
to him. He's very highly managed. I'd love to know
who's managing him.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
J C.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Polanco, a political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent
assistant professor. Look forward to listening to your podcast. Thanks
so much, Jase, Thank you day you too,
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