March 7, 2025 • 8 mins
Jeffrey Lichtman joins Mendte in the Morning to talk about the protests taking place at Barnard and his reactions to Trumps threats to deport student protesters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jeffrey Lickman is a high profile criminal defense attorneys the
host of Beyond the Legal Limited podcast found on the
iHeartRadio app. Jeffrey, thanks a lot for being with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Larry, oh so absolutely. You were the first person we
thought of when we heard about everything that was going
on at Barnard. So I'll start with just a general reaction.
What's your gut reaction to all of this.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know, I'm sick and tired of hearing this year
after year because this isn't like a new phenomena that
Columbia and Barnard, the sister school have jihadis overrunning the campus.
This has been going on for decades and at some
point somebody's got to stand up and realize that people
are allowed to send their kids to schools actually just
(00:47):
to learn instead of being abused by these savages. And
you know, Trump is coming out and there's more threats.
It's always a threat. You know, all hell is going
to break loose, Larry. We're going to deport, we're gonna arrest,
but it never happens. And it's very similar to the
way he's handled Hamas. If you don't by January twentieth.
If by January twentieth all the hostages aren't released, I'm
(01:10):
telling you all, hell is gonna break loose. He didn't
mention that it was January twenty, two thousand and forty six.
So at some point we've got to stop with the threats.
These people don't deserve second chances, whether it's Hamas in
Gaza or whether it's Hamas on Columbia Barnarts campus. Enough
with the threats. Go in there, arrest everybody. You have
(01:34):
to do a few things, Larry, you have to arrest
and cage. You then have to expel, and then you
have to deport. That's it. There's no threats, there's no talk. Arrest, in, cage, expel,
the port. You can grab them all. Anybody who does
not have a citizenship immediately has to be put into detention,
(01:55):
have their student visas pulled, and send them back to
whatever third world jehadist dump that they came from. That's
how you handle all of the protesters that are violent, because, look,
free speech is allowed. I'm not suggesting for a second
that they're not allowed to protest, but ninety nine point
nine percent of them are violent, disruptive, jahadis. They need
(02:17):
to immediately, no more threats. Remove. You take cancer out, Larry.
You don't simply try to reason with cancer. You cut
it out and you throw it into a garbage bin.
That's which need to happen to all of these Jahada
students that don't have citizenship the other ones. Expel, Expel.
Maybe you don't have a good charge to keep them
in jail for long. You probably don't. They're not like
(02:40):
killing people, but they're disruptive, they're violent, they're threatening. Expel,
no second chances, no threats. Expel, remove them from the university.
Because people are spending eighty thousand dollars a year to
have their kids learn. They can't learn, they can't even
go to class because you've got these masked savages corrupting everything.
(03:01):
Has to happen today, no more talk. Let's have some action.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well apparently we did have some action. The State Department
is saying they revoke the student visa of one of
the protesters. Apparently there were FBI agents in among those
protesters trying to identify everybody, and Stephen Miller, the advisor
to the President, said there's going to be more of
the visas revoked today. But I agree with you about
(03:27):
the police. And I will quote my father right now.
He used to tell me that free speech ended at
the front door, that he was in control of what
could be said in his house. And that's the truth
with companies, and it's also the truth with the universities.
They can go ahead and stop this from happening on
their campus if they chose to, as long as it's
(03:47):
not on public property. You're the attorney. I'm right about that, right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Listen, Columbian Barnard, they're pretending, you know, because they don't
want to lose their federal funding, another Trump threat that
he has get to follow through on. They're pretending, Oh,
we're going to stop these jihadas well. Guess what, how
do you think they get into these schools. They write
on their student essays, on their applications that we're against
Israel and that we're for Palace, and they let these
(04:15):
people in. They choose professors that are openly anti Semitic,
whether it's Joseph massadat Columbia, Rashid Khalidi. They're picking these
professors that are brainwashing the kids. Colombia and Barnard are
part of this. They want this they want the Jihad
on their campus. They want these types of savage students
in their ranks, so they have to pull the federal funding.
(04:38):
Students have to sue. I've sued Colombia on behalf of
an Israeli student who got the unfairly suspended. Well, guess what,
we took them to the cleaners, Larry, and he got
a suspension reverse. That's what has to happen. It has
to happen today from all different sides, the federal government,
Students have to hire lawyers. You have to drain these
(04:58):
schools the life out of them, the blood out of them,
and it has to happen to me. And if they
can't finally become places of higher learning instead of hamas
breeding grounds, they need to be shuttered. Period. We can
use the land and you can, you can let the
low cost housing be built there, but you can no
longer have this this cancer just a few miles from
(05:22):
ground zero. What a disgusting disgrace that you've got people
that are supporting the same ideology of the nine to
eleven terrorists who killed thousands of New Yorkers. We're letting
them exist just a few miles from there. It's outrageous
enough talk, shut it down. Arrest. You've got to arrest.
(05:42):
You've got a cage, you've got to expel, you've got
to deport. Nothing else. No more talk. Let's get it going.
One person had their visa puld one. We're talking so far,
so far. Give them time.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They just said they were going to do this yesterday.
Give them some time. I get it, I get it.
But Donald Trump wasn't president for that entire time. And
I'll push back about it a little bit about you say,
we talked to Jordana Miller, the correspondent in Jerusalem all
the time. Donald Trump's approval rating is like ninety percent
right now in Israel, they're giving him credit for all
of this. And even though you're saying, you know, he
(06:18):
said get all the hostages released. He got hostages released
when that happened, and they were at the White House
yesterday thanking him for getting them released. And this time
it's a little bit different. Hold on one second. This
time it's a little bit different. He said to them,
if you don't release them all, now you're dead. I
will agree with you if it doesn't happen. Now, you're
absolutely right. But something's happened every time he said this.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Listen, Trump certainly deserves kudos compared to the slop that
we had in the White House before. Trump has been
a hero to Israel. And just because I'm criticizing it
doesn't mean I don't support him on this. I just
think we can do so much more. You know. He's
also at the same time, while he's threatened that, you know,
all hell is going to break loose and they're all
going to die, he's also having his Middle East Envoy
(07:06):
negotiate with them, offering them humanitarian aid and three months
of a ceasefire if he releases ten of the hostages.
So he says one thing, he oftentimes does another. He's
got to be much tougher in my mind on Hamas.
You can't offer Do you offer cancer a three months
a ceasefire, Larry, or do you cut cancer out? Hamas
(07:29):
is a cancer. There is no reason why any American
should be negotiating with them over anything. The only thing
they should be negotiating them with is how do you
want to die? Well, he claims no discussions.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He claimed yesterday at the White House, and we're on
we have to wrap this up. But he claimed yesterday
at the White House. He's only there as part of
Israeli negotiations. But let's talk more about this because I'd
love to love you to come back our on early
next week so we can we can discuss what happened.
We'll see what happens today, We'll see what happens in
these talks, and then we can discuss it. Then, you know,
(08:03):
maybe you're right about everything and maybe they didn't do enough,
so we'll find out together. Let's talk again early next week.
Jeffrey Lickman is a high profile criminal defense attorneys the
host of Beyond the Legal Limited podcast found on the
iHeartRadio app. Jeffrey, thanks a lot for being with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Larry, oh so absolutely. You were the first person we
thought of when we heard about everything that was going
on at Barnard. So I'll start with just a general reaction.
What's your gut reaction to all of this.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know, I'm sick and tired of hearing this year
after year because this isn't like a new phenomena that
Columbia and Barnard, the sister school have jihadis overrunning the campus.
This has been going on for decades and at some
point somebody's got to stand up and realize that people
are allowed to send their kids to schools actually just
(00:47):
to learn instead of being abused by these savages. And
you know, Trump is coming out and there's more threats.
It's always a threat. You know, all hell is going
to break loose, Larry. We're going to deport, we're gonna arrest,
but it never happens. And it's very similar to the
way he's handled Hamas. If you don't by January twentieth.
If by January twentieth all the hostages aren't released, I'm
(01:10):
telling you all, hell is gonna break loose. He didn't
mention that it was January twenty, two thousand and forty six.
So at some point we've got to stop with the threats.
These people don't deserve second chances, whether it's Hamas in
Gaza or whether it's Hamas on Columbia Barnarts campus. Enough
with the threats. Go in there, arrest everybody. You have
(01:34):
to do a few things, Larry, you have to arrest
and cage. You then have to expel, and then you
have to deport. That's it. There's no threats, there's no talk. Arrest, in, cage, expel,
the port. You can grab them all. Anybody who does
not have a citizenship immediately has to be put into detention,
(01:55):
have their student visas pulled, and send them back to
whatever third world jehadist dump that they came from. That's
how you handle all of the protesters that are violent, because, look,
free speech is allowed. I'm not suggesting for a second
that they're not allowed to protest, but ninety nine point
nine percent of them are violent, disruptive, jahadis. They need
(02:17):
to immediately, no more threats. Remove. You take cancer out, Larry.
You don't simply try to reason with cancer. You cut
it out and you throw it into a garbage bin.
That's which need to happen to all of these Jahada
students that don't have citizenship the other ones. Expel, Expel.
Maybe you don't have a good charge to keep them
in jail for long. You probably don't. They're not like
(02:40):
killing people, but they're disruptive, they're violent, they're threatening. Expel,
no second chances, no threats. Expel, remove them from the university.
Because people are spending eighty thousand dollars a year to
have their kids learn. They can't learn, they can't even
go to class because you've got these masked savages corrupting everything.
(03:01):
Has to happen today, no more talk. Let's have some action.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well apparently we did have some action. The State Department
is saying they revoke the student visa of one of
the protesters. Apparently there were FBI agents in among those
protesters trying to identify everybody, and Stephen Miller, the advisor
to the President, said there's going to be more of
the visas revoked today. But I agree with you about
(03:27):
the police. And I will quote my father right now.
He used to tell me that free speech ended at
the front door, that he was in control of what
could be said in his house. And that's the truth
with companies, and it's also the truth with the universities.
They can go ahead and stop this from happening on
their campus if they chose to, as long as it's
(03:47):
not on public property. You're the attorney. I'm right about that, right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Listen, Columbian Barnard, they're pretending, you know, because they don't
want to lose their federal funding, another Trump threat that
he has get to follow through on. They're pretending, Oh,
we're going to stop these jihadas well. Guess what, how
do you think they get into these schools. They write
on their student essays, on their applications that we're against
Israel and that we're for Palace, and they let these
(04:15):
people in. They choose professors that are openly anti Semitic,
whether it's Joseph massadat Columbia, Rashid Khalidi. They're picking these
professors that are brainwashing the kids. Colombia and Barnard are
part of this. They want this they want the Jihad
on their campus. They want these types of savage students
in their ranks, so they have to pull the federal funding.
(04:38):
Students have to sue. I've sued Colombia on behalf of
an Israeli student who got the unfairly suspended. Well, guess what,
we took them to the cleaners, Larry, and he got
a suspension reverse. That's what has to happen. It has
to happen today from all different sides, the federal government,
Students have to hire lawyers. You have to drain these
(04:58):
schools the life out of them, the blood out of them,
and it has to happen to me. And if they
can't finally become places of higher learning instead of hamas
breeding grounds, they need to be shuttered. Period. We can
use the land and you can, you can let the
low cost housing be built there, but you can no
longer have this this cancer just a few miles from
(05:22):
ground zero. What a disgusting disgrace that you've got people
that are supporting the same ideology of the nine to
eleven terrorists who killed thousands of New Yorkers. We're letting
them exist just a few miles from there. It's outrageous
enough talk, shut it down. Arrest. You've got to arrest.
(05:42):
You've got a cage, you've got to expel, you've got
to deport. Nothing else. No more talk. Let's get it going.
One person had their visa puld one. We're talking so far,
so far. Give them time.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They just said they were going to do this yesterday.
Give them some time. I get it, I get it.
But Donald Trump wasn't president for that entire time. And
I'll push back about it a little bit about you say,
we talked to Jordana Miller, the correspondent in Jerusalem all
the time. Donald Trump's approval rating is like ninety percent
right now in Israel, they're giving him credit for all
of this. And even though you're saying, you know, he
(06:18):
said get all the hostages released. He got hostages released
when that happened, and they were at the White House
yesterday thanking him for getting them released. And this time
it's a little bit different. Hold on one second. This
time it's a little bit different. He said to them,
if you don't release them all, now you're dead. I
will agree with you if it doesn't happen. Now, you're
absolutely right. But something's happened every time he said this.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Listen, Trump certainly deserves kudos compared to the slop that
we had in the White House before. Trump has been
a hero to Israel. And just because I'm criticizing it
doesn't mean I don't support him on this. I just
think we can do so much more. You know. He's
also at the same time, while he's threatened that, you know,
all hell is going to break loose and they're all
going to die, he's also having his Middle East Envoy
(07:06):
negotiate with them, offering them humanitarian aid and three months
of a ceasefire if he releases ten of the hostages.
So he says one thing, he oftentimes does another. He's
got to be much tougher in my mind on Hamas.
You can't offer Do you offer cancer a three months
a ceasefire, Larry, or do you cut cancer out? Hamas
(07:29):
is a cancer. There is no reason why any American
should be negotiating with them over anything. The only thing
they should be negotiating them with is how do you
want to die? Well, he claims no discussions.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He claimed yesterday at the White House, and we're on
we have to wrap this up. But he claimed yesterday
at the White House. He's only there as part of
Israeli negotiations. But let's talk more about this because I'd
love to love you to come back our on early
next week so we can we can discuss what happened.
We'll see what happens today, We'll see what happens in
these talks, and then we can discuss it. Then, you know,
(08:03):
maybe you're right about everything and maybe they didn't do enough,
so we'll find out together. Let's talk again early next week.
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