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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now let's get to a high profile criminal defense attorney,
Jeffrey Licked. Men, we have so much going on today,
I wanted to get your comment not only in what's
happening at universities across the country, but what happened at
the University of Washington where pro Hamas protesters stormed a
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building and took it over, and they dealt with it
a lot different than they did at Columbia. There's been
thirty arrests. What are your thoughts on this, Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, I think it's a good start. I think they
caused about a million dollars worth of damage in the building.
But again, the fact that these students are allowed to
even protests knowing that they're coming, you know, supporting Muslim
terror group. You know now that Trump rightly is investigating
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University of Washington for antisytemitic behavior, because that's all this is.
You know, you don't ever see these these pro Palestinian students.
They're never advocating for any other massacre all over the world.
It's always the fake genocide in Gaza. And the reason
they're doing it, the reason it's against Israel is for
one reason, because it's an anti Semitic movement, but Washington
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did arrest them. They didn't allow them to exist too
long in the building, and I guess that's a positive,
but it should be chilling for every American to see
that it's campus after campus for you've got Muslim terrorists
taking over buildings and causing mayhem.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I know you'd be interested in this story. We just
talked about it with Jordanah Miller a moment ago that
Donald Trump apparently worked out a deal or maybe they
just reached out to him with the Hooties where they're
not going to strike American ships anymore, but that does
not include Israel. Apparently they say they're going to continue
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missile strikes into Israel. What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, first of all, somebody needs to tell the Huthies
that they apparently reached a truce with Trump because they
came out after us that Trump is a liar and
that it never happened, that he didn't speak to anybody.
So I'm not exactly sure what Trump is talking about.
But the bizarre part is that Israel yesterday, because of
the attack on Israel's airport by the houthis a missile
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that landed there. Goes in there with an umbrella of
security from America and bombs the Houthis airport to Smith Renes,
I mean, destroys it completely. I think they have one
commercial plane that's left in the entire country. So after
Israel does that in conjunction with America, and it's design
stopped the Houthies not only attacking Israel and attacking America,
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but also attacking all of the other ships in the
Red Sea, which is fouling all sorts of commercial passageways,
which is why they're doing it. Then Trump comes out
and unilaterally claims, without discussing it with Israel, well, we're
gonna stop bothering the Hoothies because they promised we're gonna
trust them all of a sudden, then we're not gonna
bomb them anymore. Does he do it behind Israel's back,
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even though he just helped Israel. But he's saying that
we're going to allow this heinous Muslim terror group, this
proxy of Iran, to re arm, to exist and to
terrorize people in the Middle East in the future. It
just doesn't make any sense to me. And bizarrely, I
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suppose what I think it is is it's some sort
of entreaty to Iran because Trump is so hell bent
on working out some kind of of nukes deal with Iran,
and Iran doesn't seem to be very interested because two
days before they have seven Iranians are arrested in London
for terror attacks. Iran has all of its proxies still
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continuing to cause terror all over the world. That does
not suggest to me that the Iranians are serious about
peace when they're continuing to only be all about war.
So to me, Trump trying to make peace with Iran
and the Husies when they clearly have no interest and peace.
I'm not exactly sure that Trump is aware of what
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Iran and the Houthis are.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That would be if you trust the Houthies and what
they're saying, and you trust Around and what he's saying too. Now,
Trump says he's going to have a big announcement coming
up either at the end of this week or possibly
over the weekend. A lot of people think it may
be the Iranian peace deal. If that were to happen,
then you would think that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Right, Well, no, because it's it's first of all, it's
not a peace deal. It's a nukes deal. And it's
the same deal that Trump broke that Obama put together.
There's really nothing different about it. So it doesn't make
any sense. And I've got a question, Larry. If let's
say somehow the Iranians lie their way into some kind
of peace deal, excuse me, nukes deal with America. What
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about the Houthis, what about Hamas? What about Hesbola. It's
not like these these terror proxies are not capable of
terrorizing the world. Remember it was Hamas that did October seventh,
killed all the Israelis and Americans and all other sorts
of people. They're still holding him hostage. What does a
nukes deeal do that actually protects the world from Iran
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and It's proxies. It does absolutely nothing. So I don't
really understand putting us back to a situation where we're
back to October sixth, How does that help the world?
I mean, what is Trump thinking? That's I mean, Iran
has already said any nukes deal that we're making with
America is going to exempt our proxies, the Huthis, hes
blon Jamas. So what's the point of making a deal
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with them when they're just saying they're going to continue
to terrorize the world and that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, we don't know what the deal is just yet,
and he has been calling it a peace deal. So
why don't we talk again after this happens or doesn't happen,
and then we can figure out exactly what it is.
But let's talk about p Diddy for a second, because, well,
you've had high profile cases in the past, how would
you deal with this case.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, I don't think this case is so bad, and
I actually think he's not going to be convicted. I
don't think there's any question that this is a very
strong defense case. And I thought, you know, it wasn't
like I'm the only one that thinks this. The government
apparently tried to work out a deal with Diddy in
the last few weeks, which he rejected. I can tell
you having had many high profile trials where the government
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thinks that they can't lose, They're not making pleae offers
on the eve of trial. They're doing it, I think
because they recognize this is no longer than Me Too era,
And the fact is that most, if not all, of
these women, maybe they were abused, but they did so voluntarily,
you know, same thing with the Harvey Weinstein case. This
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isn't a situation where these women had guns to their head.
I mean, after whatever they did with Ditty, they're coming
back for more. Now. I understand they felt that they
were coerced because Diddy had power over them, which of
course is wrong, but I don't know that it rises
to the level of criminality. Now on the opposite side,
I would say that Diddy hires a new lawyer it
seems every week. If with that, that suggests to the public.
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If you know, if I'm in the public and I'm
watching this, I'm thinking, my god, this is a guy
who clearly has no faith in his lawyers. He doesn't
think that his lawyers are strong, and he's hiring a
new lawyer every few days when they can't possibly be
prepared for the trial. So it sort of cuts both ways.
I actually think that it'll be a long shot for
Diddy to be convicted of everything. Wow, he may be
convicted of some of the stuff, but I don't think.
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I don't think he's going down all the way.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, well, I'll watch together, Thanks so much. Jeffrey Lickman,
high profile criminal defense attorney. I should also say host
of Beyond the Legal Limit podcast found in the iHeartRadio app.
Thanks a lot, Jeffrey