August 26, 2025 • 10 mins
Joe tells Mendte in the Morning that he is considering moving out of New York if Mamdani gets elected, because of his policies. What strategy can voters use to swing the votes away from Zohran? Joe explains.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. Tell you we appreciate so much that you
chose some time to spend with us. We know you
have a lot of choices. Thanks for choosing us and
the Big Three. Donald Trump is still deciding now whether
he wants to send federal troops the National Guard to
fight crime in cities like Chicago and New York.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We may or may not. We may just go in
and do it, which is probably what we should do.
The problem is it's not nice when you go in
and do it and somebody else is standing there saying,
as we give great results, say well, we don't want
the military. They need help badly. Chicago desperately needs help.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, nobody wants safe streets. Nobody wants what they have
in Washington, DC right now, thirteen days in a row
without a murder, and by the way, in Chicago, they're
talking about how safe it is. Over the weekend six
Dead twenty six shot. Trump also signed an executive order
to withhold federal funding from any city that doesn't stop
(01:02):
the ridiculous crime accelerating idea called cashless bail inflicted on
New York by none other than Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Cashless bail created by Andrew Cuomo in twenty nineteen as governor.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Always made it clear that revolve into a system of
dealing with violent offenders needs must be addressed. I think
the former governor made a terrible mistake with how they
did bail reform.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The Trump administration, says Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the illegal alien
who has been freed by a judge pending trial, but
has now been picked up by Ice, so he's back
behind bars. He's going to be deported no matter what.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
He is absolutely going to be deported in this country.
He's not going to walk the streets in the station
so he can enjoy the little time he has with
his family. And for the person says we're not going
to separate family with his family can go with him
and heroes.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Welcome in fairfield of etiquette for the Metro Little League
Baseball team who just came back into town after the
Little League World Series. They are truly one of the kinds.
I'm so proud of them. I want to thank all
of you for being here. I am completely blown away
at the crowd today. Coach Brian Palazzolo spoke for the
(02:21):
team who came in third in the Little League World
Series after winning the consolation game. Now let's get to
Joe Borelli. Joe is the managing director of Chartwell Strategy
Group and former Minority leader of the New York City Council.
He is with us every Tuesday at this time.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Good morning, Joe, Top of the morning, Larry, thanks for
having me.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I hope you can help me with something. I am
still trying to figure out how a guy who wants
to legalized prostitution, he wants to send social workers on
domestic disputes, he wants to raise the corporate tax, and
he wants to raise the personal tax. How he is
leading not by a little, by a lot in the
(03:03):
mayoral race.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, I'll tell you how he's leading, perhaps because I'm
even not a victim of this butt but sort of
someone who's actively doing this every day. I read about
the New York City mayoral election news the day, and
then I immediately go to Zillow and start looking at
properties where we already have a condo down in Naples
or in New Jersey. I think Jack Chitarelli's gonna win
(03:29):
in Jersey this fall, so like that state is really
becoming an option for missus Burelli and I and Unfortunately,
I do think a lot of people are having the
same thought. New York has always had a good relationship
with upper middle class too, very wealthy individuals. They've paid
for almost everything in this city. But they're willing to
(03:50):
pay the higher taxes in the higher cost of living.
They're willing to pay that premium because New York City
was great. It was great for a long long time.
The minute that ratio does not exist anymore, you will
see upper middle class people, wealthy people continue to flee
this city. I will be one of them, Larry, I
(04:10):
assure you that because I'm already getting the pressure from
my dear missus Barelli.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh is she already because of zorin mom Donnie, or
just because she wants to move out of the city.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well, look, we look at the future, right My kids
are in fifth grade, going to fifth grade and going
into second grade. So we're at a time now where
we do have to make that choice. Is it worth
saying here for the kids to go to high school?
So we're at that time, and unfortunately the direction is
not going well. And I gotta be honest, My wife
and I we do love State violand so it is
a difficult decision. But when you hear about these things
(04:42):
in this environment that this man wants to create, it's
not conducive. That's why I think I told you last
week or the week before that you know who's ever
in second place going into late October, that's who's going
to get my vote, and that's who's going to get
my family's vote. And I'm pretty sure a lot of
people are in the same boat as I am.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know at this point, and I thought I could,
But because of the continuing corruption in the Adams administration,
and because of the just lackluster lion campaign of Andrew
Cuomo and what he did when he is in office.
If one of them are in second place, I don't
think I could vote for them, even to stop Zorin Mamdani.
(05:21):
I think I'm going to vote for Curtis Leeveland no
matter what.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Oh I would prefer of all three of them, I
would prefer Republican Curtis lee would be in second place,
There's no question about that. Do I see a path
for Curtis if all the candidates stay in the race.
I do. I still do, And the polling really will
indicate whether he has a chance of winning. The mayoralty
by the plurality that said, you know, if Clomo keeps
(05:48):
keeps leading, there's a chance, there's a chance that there
is the silent majority that will come out and support him,
in the same way that the silent majority came out
in the Democratic primary to support Zoororin, who came out
of the out of the weeds, from from from like
fourth place three weeks before the election to first place.
I mean, that's a possibility. So we can't we can't
(06:08):
totally ignore that.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let me correct myself for a second, because I know
I'm gonna get called on this. I don't vote in
this city. I got carried away there. I would vote
somebody who if I did vote in the city, I
would vote for Curtis Lee with So I just want
to make sure that because believe me, they are vicious, Joe,
They're vicious.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They'll come right army, you know, you know, leaves out
no man, they come.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's exactly right. I will tell you what. I love
this idea that Donald Trump has. Now, he can't do
it on his own. He really has to be invited in.
Even though he says he can declare an emergency, he
has to be invited in. But what city wouldn't want
federal troops and federal resources the National Guard being sent
in to help with crime. We know they liked it
(06:56):
in New York they put a thousand in the subways before.
But we're saying no, We're saying no to it. Chicago's
saying no to it just because it's Donald Trump. It
makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, not only did we have a thousand troops come in,
but don't forget Larry, we had a thousand troops come
in in twenty twenty four, and in January of this year,
twenty twenty five, the governor took great you know, fanfare,
announced how great this program was working, how crime had
declined on the subway. And guess what it did, right,
(07:30):
Crime did go down on the subway. It's a positive thing.
We can say that's positive about Kathy Hockel. But don't
pretend like after she, you know, had all this fanfare
in announcing in January of this year that she's adding
more National Guard members to the subways, don't pretend like
this is some moral objection you have to Donald Trump
(07:50):
using the National Guard to reenforce state and local law.
It's ridiculous, and you know, maybe New York doesn't necessarily
need more than the twelve hundred or so you already
have now you know, in operation, maybe we don't. But
I can tell you who does. Chicago does, and I
can tell you where it's working. It's working in Washington.
You know. Fox News had my friend Alexis McAdams out
(08:12):
last night and I'm just you know, following up on
her social media, and it's amazing to see what these
men and women are doing and the results in the statistics,
the raw statistics are astablishing. When you can say that
there are thirty less carjacking victims this week, when you
can say there are three less murders, three less dead people,
(08:33):
three less dead most likely children, and these are accomplishments
that no one can deny are working out tremendously well
for the president and for the people of Washington.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I love that the mayor of New York, of not
New York, excuse me, of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, came out
and talked about how safe it is there. And then
at the same time, over the weekend, six dead, twenty
seven shots in Chicago. That's just one weekend a hunt,
and fifteen people were caught up in gunfire for this
(09:04):
month in August, and he's coming out there saying, oh, no, no,
we don't need it. We're as safe as can be.
I got a feeling it's just about Donald Trump, because
it makes no other sense. It's just because he wants
to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Joe. No, it's ridiculous. And that's a mayor who's beclowned himself,
you know, time after time in the two years since
he's been elected. And I'll never forget that chicagoan's you know,
voted not to have an entirely reasonable Democrat who did
a pretty good job with the school system and went
with this guy who's an absolute nightmare. And in that
same press conference with Brandon Johnson, J D. Pritzker was
(09:40):
there and he said, President Trump, You're not welcome in Chicago.
And I thought to myself, Yeah, but you know what,
the rest of us aren't welcome in Chicago because I
would never leave O'Hare Airport, you know, to go, you know,
stumble around the city of Chicago during a long layover.
It would never even occur to me to take my
kids to a Bears game or something like that, because
(10:02):
I don't want to deal with the problems of New
York Times ten in Chicago, so I'll just stay here
in New York. But that's the attitude that the governor has.
It's not about making the city safer. It's about opposing
Donald Trump. We see the same thing in California with
Gavin Newsom, and we see the same thing with another,
you know less high profile governors and mayors around the city,
(10:23):
around the country.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I'd rather see people get shot and people die
in my city just for political reasons. It makes no sense.
It's insane and it's dangerous. Joe Burrelli, Managing director Chartwell
Strategy Group and former City Council Minority leader, with us
every Tuesday at eight oh five. Thanks a lot, Joe,
see you next week.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Thank you.
Good morning. Tell you we appreciate so much that you
chose some time to spend with us. We know you
have a lot of choices. Thanks for choosing us and
the Big Three. Donald Trump is still deciding now whether
he wants to send federal troops the National Guard to
fight crime in cities like Chicago and New York.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We may or may not. We may just go in
and do it, which is probably what we should do.
The problem is it's not nice when you go in
and do it and somebody else is standing there saying,
as we give great results, say well, we don't want
the military. They need help badly. Chicago desperately needs help.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, nobody wants safe streets. Nobody wants what they have
in Washington, DC right now, thirteen days in a row
without a murder, and by the way, in Chicago, they're
talking about how safe it is. Over the weekend six
Dead twenty six shot. Trump also signed an executive order
to withhold federal funding from any city that doesn't stop
(01:02):
the ridiculous crime accelerating idea called cashless bail inflicted on
New York by none other than Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Cashless bail created by Andrew Cuomo in twenty nineteen as governor.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Always made it clear that revolve into a system of
dealing with violent offenders needs must be addressed. I think
the former governor made a terrible mistake with how they
did bail reform.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The Trump administration, says Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the illegal alien
who has been freed by a judge pending trial, but
has now been picked up by Ice, so he's back
behind bars. He's going to be deported no matter what.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
He is absolutely going to be deported in this country.
He's not going to walk the streets in the station
so he can enjoy the little time he has with
his family. And for the person says we're not going
to separate family with his family can go with him
and heroes.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Welcome in fairfield of etiquette for the Metro Little League
Baseball team who just came back into town after the
Little League World Series. They are truly one of the kinds.
I'm so proud of them. I want to thank all
of you for being here. I am completely blown away
at the crowd today. Coach Brian Palazzolo spoke for the
(02:21):
team who came in third in the Little League World
Series after winning the consolation game. Now let's get to
Joe Borelli. Joe is the managing director of Chartwell Strategy
Group and former Minority leader of the New York City Council.
He is with us every Tuesday at this time.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Good morning, Joe, Top of the morning, Larry, thanks for
having me.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I hope you can help me with something. I am
still trying to figure out how a guy who wants
to legalized prostitution, he wants to send social workers on
domestic disputes, he wants to raise the corporate tax, and
he wants to raise the personal tax. How he is
leading not by a little, by a lot in the
(03:03):
mayoral race.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, I'll tell you how he's leading, perhaps because I'm
even not a victim of this butt but sort of
someone who's actively doing this every day. I read about
the New York City mayoral election news the day, and
then I immediately go to Zillow and start looking at
properties where we already have a condo down in Naples
or in New Jersey. I think Jack Chitarelli's gonna win
(03:29):
in Jersey this fall, so like that state is really
becoming an option for missus Burelli and I and Unfortunately,
I do think a lot of people are having the
same thought. New York has always had a good relationship
with upper middle class too, very wealthy individuals. They've paid
for almost everything in this city. But they're willing to
(03:50):
pay the higher taxes in the higher cost of living.
They're willing to pay that premium because New York City
was great. It was great for a long long time.
The minute that ratio does not exist anymore, you will
see upper middle class people, wealthy people continue to flee
this city. I will be one of them, Larry, I
(04:10):
assure you that because I'm already getting the pressure from
my dear missus Barelli.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh is she already because of zorin mom Donnie, or
just because she wants to move out of the city.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well, look, we look at the future, right My kids
are in fifth grade, going to fifth grade and going
into second grade. So we're at a time now where
we do have to make that choice. Is it worth
saying here for the kids to go to high school?
So we're at that time, and unfortunately the direction is
not going well. And I gotta be honest, My wife
and I we do love State violand so it is
a difficult decision. But when you hear about these things
(04:42):
in this environment that this man wants to create, it's
not conducive. That's why I think I told you last
week or the week before that you know who's ever
in second place going into late October, that's who's going
to get my vote, and that's who's going to get
my family's vote. And I'm pretty sure a lot of
people are in the same boat as I am.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know at this point, and I thought I could,
But because of the continuing corruption in the Adams administration,
and because of the just lackluster lion campaign of Andrew
Cuomo and what he did when he is in office.
If one of them are in second place, I don't
think I could vote for them, even to stop Zorin Mamdani.
(05:21):
I think I'm going to vote for Curtis Leeveland no
matter what.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Oh I would prefer of all three of them, I
would prefer Republican Curtis lee would be in second place,
There's no question about that. Do I see a path
for Curtis if all the candidates stay in the race.
I do. I still do, And the polling really will
indicate whether he has a chance of winning. The mayoralty
by the plurality that said, you know, if Clomo keeps
(05:48):
keeps leading, there's a chance, there's a chance that there
is the silent majority that will come out and support him,
in the same way that the silent majority came out
in the Democratic primary to support Zoororin, who came out
of the out of the weeds, from from from like
fourth place three weeks before the election to first place.
I mean, that's a possibility. So we can't we can't
(06:08):
totally ignore that.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let me correct myself for a second, because I know
I'm gonna get called on this. I don't vote in
this city. I got carried away there. I would vote
somebody who if I did vote in the city, I
would vote for Curtis Lee with So I just want
to make sure that because believe me, they are vicious, Joe,
They're vicious.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They'll come right army, you know, you know, leaves out
no man, they come.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's exactly right. I will tell you what. I love
this idea that Donald Trump has. Now, he can't do
it on his own. He really has to be invited in.
Even though he says he can declare an emergency, he
has to be invited in. But what city wouldn't want
federal troops and federal resources the National Guard being sent
in to help with crime. We know they liked it
(06:56):
in New York they put a thousand in the subways before.
But we're saying no, We're saying no to it. Chicago's
saying no to it just because it's Donald Trump. It
makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, not only did we have a thousand troops come in,
but don't forget Larry, we had a thousand troops come
in in twenty twenty four, and in January of this year,
twenty twenty five, the governor took great you know, fanfare,
announced how great this program was working, how crime had
declined on the subway. And guess what it did, right,
(07:30):
Crime did go down on the subway. It's a positive thing.
We can say that's positive about Kathy Hockel. But don't
pretend like after she, you know, had all this fanfare
in announcing in January of this year that she's adding
more National Guard members to the subways, don't pretend like
this is some moral objection you have to Donald Trump
(07:50):
using the National Guard to reenforce state and local law.
It's ridiculous, and you know, maybe New York doesn't necessarily
need more than the twelve hundred or so you already
have now you know, in operation, maybe we don't. But
I can tell you who does. Chicago does, and I
can tell you where it's working. It's working in Washington.
You know. Fox News had my friend Alexis McAdams out
(08:12):
last night and I'm just you know, following up on
her social media, and it's amazing to see what these
men and women are doing and the results in the statistics,
the raw statistics are astablishing. When you can say that
there are thirty less carjacking victims this week, when you
can say there are three less murders, three less dead people,
(08:33):
three less dead most likely children, and these are accomplishments
that no one can deny are working out tremendously well
for the president and for the people of Washington.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I love that the mayor of New York, of not
New York, excuse me, of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, came out
and talked about how safe it is there. And then
at the same time, over the weekend, six dead, twenty
seven shots in Chicago. That's just one weekend a hunt,
and fifteen people were caught up in gunfire for this
(09:04):
month in August, and he's coming out there saying, oh, no, no,
we don't need it. We're as safe as can be.
I got a feeling it's just about Donald Trump, because
it makes no other sense. It's just because he wants
to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Joe. No, it's ridiculous. And that's a mayor who's beclowned himself,
you know, time after time in the two years since
he's been elected. And I'll never forget that chicagoan's you know,
voted not to have an entirely reasonable Democrat who did
a pretty good job with the school system and went
with this guy who's an absolute nightmare. And in that
same press conference with Brandon Johnson, J D. Pritzker was
(09:40):
there and he said, President Trump, You're not welcome in Chicago.
And I thought to myself, Yeah, but you know what,
the rest of us aren't welcome in Chicago because I
would never leave O'Hare Airport, you know, to go, you know,
stumble around the city of Chicago during a long layover.
It would never even occur to me to take my
kids to a Bears game or something like that, because
(10:02):
I don't want to deal with the problems of New
York Times ten in Chicago, so I'll just stay here
in New York. But that's the attitude that the governor has.
It's not about making the city safer. It's about opposing
Donald Trump. We see the same thing in California with
Gavin Newsom, and we see the same thing with another,
you know less high profile governors and mayors around the city,
(10:23):
around the country.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I'd rather see people get shot and people die
in my city just for political reasons. It makes no sense.
It's insane and it's dangerous. Joe Burrelli, Managing director Chartwell
Strategy Group and former City Council Minority leader, with us
every Tuesday at eight oh five. Thanks a lot, Joe,
see you next week.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Thank you.
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