Joe Borelli speaks with Mendte in the Morning about the Big Beautiful Bill and the NYC Mayoral race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get to Joe Borelli, Managing director of Chartwell Strategy
Group and former Minority leader of the New York City Council.
Thanks so much, Joe for making time for us. I'm
looking on TV. Let's see where were you in the
last week. You were on Picks. I saw that n
y one. Oh yeah, you were on CNN and you
were on Fox. Do you have contract yet with anybody?
(00:24):
I mean, you seem to do a whole lot here
and you can't be on CNN and Fox? Are they
fighting over you at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh? Well, it was definitely a busy week, but no
and no contract yet, although I will have something to
announce very soon in terms of print media, so we'll see.
We'll see when it's good to go to announce that.
But I like, I do like writing quite a bit,
and I think I'll be getting paid to do some writing,
which is better than writing.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was going to guess a book, but when you
said I'm going to be paid to get through some writing,
is okay? Now you have to tell us is it
going to be a column or is there going to
be a book? Can you say that without saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Where it will be? It will be a column. I
get right. I wrote two books on Staten Island history
which you can buy on Amazon, which if you're interested
in Staten Island history in New York City history, you
could buy my books on Amazon, which is always nice.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
What are the names of the books?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
A Revolutionary Staten Island and Staten Island in the nineteenth Century.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Great, wonderful. I am going to grab those. I know
she's a Staten Island girl, Natalie from Staten Island.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh, I know we are. We are kindred spirits. We are.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Let's talk a little bit about them, may or eal
race if we can. First of all, how about the
fact that have you been watching this Hakeem Jefferies is
now going on his third hour. It sounds like he's
trying to fill a buster of the bill. He's trying
to be Cory uh, you know, Corey Light.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, Look, when the fight becomes public on the floor
of the House, it usually means that the party pushing
the legislation has enough votes to pass it. So now
you're seeing the deaf gargles, the flailing arms of the
Democratic Party as they realized the one big, beautiful bill
which is going to make permanent in one of the
most critical and largest tax cuts in American history for
(02:10):
all Americans. So this is what it looks like when
Democrats go down quote unquote fighting. They're just going to
make a scene and delay the voting, hoping perhaps that
our friend Andrew Garvorino sleeps through it again.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Mae, all right, now, let's talk a little bit about
the many oral race. Are you one of the people
that is in the camp and you're hearing more and
more of them? Al Sharpton did it yesterday saying that
the other candidates, one or two or all three of
them have to coalesce around another candidate. Just so, are
(02:42):
you in that camp?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Put me in the Al Sharpton camp, which is kind
of crazy to say. But Al Sharpton didn't include Curtis
Leewa in that calculation. Look, Curtis Leewa comes in with
a base of support at twenty eight percent. That base
of support might be more than Eric Adams and Andrew
Cuomo has. So you know, I think Cuomo has to
be sidelined at this point. Right, Cuomo was a paper tiger.
(03:06):
He had all these endorsements, he had all this money
from billionaires, he had all these packs at outside expenditure
groups supporting him, and he still came up short to
the Socialist. There's no reason for him to continue, right,
certainly not without all the backing he had before. It's
not going to get better for him. So I see
it as a two way race, to a two way
race against Mamdani, between Sliwa and Adams. And personally I
(03:29):
am friends with both of them, and very honestly, whoever
has a clearer path for me will be who I'm supporting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The one that I'm shocked about the thing that I'm
the most shocked about is that so many people are
saying that Eric Adams is the one now where he
was persona non grata just about a month ago to
all the Democrats, but now you have Sharpton saying that
Cuomo has got to get out of the race and
put his support behind Adams. You have Hank Schinkoff was
on our air saying the same thing, and he went
(03:58):
Sliwa also to get behind Adam. How he's like Lazarmuth.
He rose from the dead and now he's the chosen one.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Look, we can all find flaws in Eric Adams's mayoralty.
Certainly I've spent many, many many days on this show,
other shows like this talking about all the problems with
Eric Adams. However, However, things aren't as bad as they
could be, and the Eric Adams of the last two
years has been a decent mayor. Once he got rid
(04:27):
of all his crooked, crony friends, you know, the city
did start to turn around. And that is a story
that I hope he tells. And look again, it is
a it's hopefully going to be a binary choice between
someone who is not perfect versus someone who, if they
are perfect and execute, will make the city worse with
(04:48):
his goals. That's what we're really up against, right, I'll
take the flawed guy who loves New York versus the
socialist who wants to upand everything that we believe in.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, the only thing, and is so strange that this
is the case in New York City. The only thing
hurting Eric Adams in this city is his ties to
Donald Trump. And I've heard Mom, Donnie. He wasn't even
talking about Donald Trump during the primary. Suddenly he can't
get his name out of his mouth. And I'm sure
it's because of Eric Adams.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Larry. It's a little deeper than that, right, So some
sectors will try to so Mam Donnie will try to
tie Adams to Trump. But Sliva on the other side
will try to remind people that this is the mayor
of the migrant crisis, that this is the mayor of
City of Yes, and why is City of Yes important? Well,
the neighborhoods that are you know, quote unquote moderate sort
of outer borough, lower density, whether they're inhabited by black
(05:41):
or Hispanic or anyone, right, those are the neighborhoods that
Eric Adams is going to be trying to pick up
his his in his quest, and those are the ones
that are least in favor of his City of Yes
housing proposal. So there is a lot of layers to
this that are not baked into the polling. But again,
when we start seeing these first polls come out over
(06:03):
the next two or three weeks. In fact, I just
got a poll to my cell phone about two nights
two days ago, so I'm sure we'll be seeing the
results of whatever company was polling this poll. These polls,
the first couple will indicate who really should step aside
and who has the best best plan.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right, Well, are you talking about the poll that had
thirty nine percent for Cuomo and thirty nine percent from
mom Donni.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No. And I'm talking about the polls, the first real
set of polls for the general election with all five
candidates on the ballot. Yeah, we'll see who.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah. I saw them with Sliwa and I saw with
on all four of them and they had the they
had Cuomo. The one I saw had Cuomo and mom
Donni tied.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That. That's the first one that that's out of the box.
I'm talking about the ones that are going to happen
over the next week or two while while the new
electorate's kind of baked into to who the players are
going into the next three months. We want to give
everyone a chance to digest who's in the general election.
It shouldn't be just a poll that happened as soon
as the race was called between Mumdani and Cuomo, because
(07:09):
everyone knows the name recognition is going to be skewed
with Mamdani and Cuomo there. So again, give it like
two or three weeks. Some people say we should give
it to after Labor Day when people start coming back
from from the mental vacation of the summer, and then
figure out who's the best position to take on Mumdana, just.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Real quick, Joe, And just because of the way you've
been talking, I think I know the answer. So Cuomo
is definitely in the race.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It sounds like it. You know, Empire Report just ran
the headline today Cuomo trying where a picture of a
sad looking Andrew Cuomo, you know, as vowed to go
on and rich as a party. His spokesman says, you
know this is he's the right guy, and it's just
it's just sad. Look when you think about the campaign
Cuomo ran, you know, like he used to show up
(07:54):
to these press conferences in his hot rod like it's
nineteen This is the guy who's genuinely living in nineteen
ninety three, like hetaigned the wrong way. If you know
anything about Democratic primary voters in New York, you know
that showing up with your Dodge charger in your gas
guzzling Dodge charger is not going to get those voters.
(08:15):
That's how backwards this guy's view is. And that's why
you're seeing so many important stakeholder groups from billionaires to
labor union abandoning him, not just because he lost, but
because he ran an ineffective campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Joe Burrelli, Managing director of Chartwell Strategy Group and former
Minoriti leader of the New York City Council. Thanks so much.
Talk to you as soume when you have time for us.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Thank you.
Let's get to Joe Borelli, Managing director of Chartwell Strategy
Group and former Minority leader of the New York City Council.
Thanks so much, Joe for making time for us. I'm
looking on TV. Let's see where were you in the
last week. You were on Picks. I saw that n
y one. Oh yeah, you were on CNN and you
were on Fox. Do you have contract yet with anybody?
(00:24):
I mean, you seem to do a whole lot here
and you can't be on CNN and Fox? Are they
fighting over you at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh? Well, it was definitely a busy week, but no
and no contract yet, although I will have something to
announce very soon in terms of print media, so we'll see.
We'll see when it's good to go to announce that.
But I like, I do like writing quite a bit,
and I think I'll be getting paid to do some writing,
which is better than writing.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was going to guess a book, but when you
said I'm going to be paid to get through some writing,
is okay? Now you have to tell us is it
going to be a column or is there going to
be a book? Can you say that without saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Where it will be? It will be a column. I
get right. I wrote two books on Staten Island history
which you can buy on Amazon, which if you're interested
in Staten Island history in New York City history, you
could buy my books on Amazon, which is always nice.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
What are the names of the books?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
A Revolutionary Staten Island and Staten Island in the nineteenth Century.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Great, wonderful. I am going to grab those. I know
she's a Staten Island girl, Natalie from Staten Island.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh, I know we are. We are kindred spirits. We are.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Let's talk a little bit about them, may or eal
race if we can. First of all, how about the
fact that have you been watching this Hakeem Jefferies is
now going on his third hour. It sounds like he's
trying to fill a buster of the bill. He's trying
to be Cory uh, you know, Corey Light.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, Look, when the fight becomes public on the floor
of the House, it usually means that the party pushing
the legislation has enough votes to pass it. So now
you're seeing the deaf gargles, the flailing arms of the
Democratic Party as they realized the one big, beautiful bill
which is going to make permanent in one of the
most critical and largest tax cuts in American history for
(02:10):
all Americans. So this is what it looks like when
Democrats go down quote unquote fighting. They're just going to
make a scene and delay the voting, hoping perhaps that
our friend Andrew Garvorino sleeps through it again.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Mae, all right, now, let's talk a little bit about
the many oral race. Are you one of the people
that is in the camp and you're hearing more and
more of them? Al Sharpton did it yesterday saying that
the other candidates, one or two or all three of
them have to coalesce around another candidate. Just so, are
(02:42):
you in that camp?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Put me in the Al Sharpton camp, which is kind
of crazy to say. But Al Sharpton didn't include Curtis
Leewa in that calculation. Look, Curtis Leewa comes in with
a base of support at twenty eight percent. That base
of support might be more than Eric Adams and Andrew
Cuomo has. So you know, I think Cuomo has to
be sidelined at this point. Right, Cuomo was a paper tiger.
(03:06):
He had all these endorsements, he had all this money
from billionaires, he had all these packs at outside expenditure
groups supporting him, and he still came up short to
the Socialist. There's no reason for him to continue, right,
certainly not without all the backing he had before. It's
not going to get better for him. So I see
it as a two way race, to a two way
race against Mamdani, between Sliwa and Adams. And personally I
(03:29):
am friends with both of them, and very honestly, whoever
has a clearer path for me will be who I'm supporting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The one that I'm shocked about the thing that I'm
the most shocked about is that so many people are
saying that Eric Adams is the one now where he
was persona non grata just about a month ago to
all the Democrats, but now you have Sharpton saying that
Cuomo has got to get out of the race and
put his support behind Adams. You have Hank Schinkoff was
on our air saying the same thing, and he went
(03:58):
Sliwa also to get behind Adam. How he's like Lazarmuth.
He rose from the dead and now he's the chosen one.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Look, we can all find flaws in Eric Adams's mayoralty.
Certainly I've spent many, many many days on this show,
other shows like this talking about all the problems with
Eric Adams. However, However, things aren't as bad as they
could be, and the Eric Adams of the last two
years has been a decent mayor. Once he got rid
(04:27):
of all his crooked, crony friends, you know, the city
did start to turn around. And that is a story
that I hope he tells. And look again, it is
a it's hopefully going to be a binary choice between
someone who is not perfect versus someone who, if they
are perfect and execute, will make the city worse with
(04:48):
his goals. That's what we're really up against, right, I'll
take the flawed guy who loves New York versus the
socialist who wants to upand everything that we believe in.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, the only thing, and is so strange that this
is the case in New York City. The only thing
hurting Eric Adams in this city is his ties to
Donald Trump. And I've heard Mom, Donnie. He wasn't even
talking about Donald Trump during the primary. Suddenly he can't
get his name out of his mouth. And I'm sure
it's because of Eric Adams.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Larry. It's a little deeper than that, right, So some
sectors will try to so Mam Donnie will try to
tie Adams to Trump. But Sliva on the other side
will try to remind people that this is the mayor
of the migrant crisis, that this is the mayor of
City of Yes, and why is City of Yes important? Well,
the neighborhoods that are you know, quote unquote moderate sort
of outer borough, lower density, whether they're inhabited by black
(05:41):
or Hispanic or anyone, right, those are the neighborhoods that
Eric Adams is going to be trying to pick up
his his in his quest, and those are the ones
that are least in favor of his City of Yes
housing proposal. So there is a lot of layers to
this that are not baked into the polling. But again,
when we start seeing these first polls come out over
(06:03):
the next two or three weeks. In fact, I just
got a poll to my cell phone about two nights
two days ago, so I'm sure we'll be seeing the
results of whatever company was polling this poll. These polls,
the first couple will indicate who really should step aside
and who has the best best plan.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right, Well, are you talking about the poll that had
thirty nine percent for Cuomo and thirty nine percent from
mom Donni.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No. And I'm talking about the polls, the first real
set of polls for the general election with all five
candidates on the ballot. Yeah, we'll see who.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah. I saw them with Sliwa and I saw with
on all four of them and they had the they
had Cuomo. The one I saw had Cuomo and mom
Donni tied.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That. That's the first one that that's out of the box.
I'm talking about the ones that are going to happen
over the next week or two while while the new
electorate's kind of baked into to who the players are
going into the next three months. We want to give
everyone a chance to digest who's in the general election.
It shouldn't be just a poll that happened as soon
as the race was called between Mumdani and Cuomo, because
(07:09):
everyone knows the name recognition is going to be skewed
with Mamdani and Cuomo there. So again, give it like
two or three weeks. Some people say we should give
it to after Labor Day when people start coming back
from from the mental vacation of the summer, and then
figure out who's the best position to take on Mumdana, just.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Real quick, Joe, And just because of the way you've
been talking, I think I know the answer. So Cuomo
is definitely in the race.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It sounds like it. You know, Empire Report just ran
the headline today Cuomo trying where a picture of a
sad looking Andrew Cuomo, you know, as vowed to go
on and rich as a party. His spokesman says, you
know this is he's the right guy, and it's just
it's just sad. Look when you think about the campaign
Cuomo ran, you know, like he used to show up
(07:54):
to these press conferences in his hot rod like it's
nineteen This is the guy who's genuinely living in nineteen
ninety three, like hetaigned the wrong way. If you know
anything about Democratic primary voters in New York, you know
that showing up with your Dodge charger in your gas
guzzling Dodge charger is not going to get those voters.
(08:15):
That's how backwards this guy's view is. And that's why
you're seeing so many important stakeholder groups from billionaires to
labor union abandoning him, not just because he lost, but
because he ran an ineffective campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Joe Burrelli, Managing director of Chartwell Strategy Group and former
Minoriti leader of the New York City Council. Thanks so much.
Talk to you as soume when you have time for us.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Thank you.
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