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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And you know what, let's talk more about it right
now with film journalists and wo R Movie Minute host
Joe Numeira And Joe, we talked to you on Friday.
Nice job. You talked about the possibility of all of
this happening, and it happened. Good job.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thanks. I got to say, it was a wacky year
to be able to make predictions. I think that I
was writing a few of them, a few of them
I wasn't right on. But let's just talk about the
overall show. You're right that entrance going in with Somewhere
Over the Rainbow was a beautiful way to acknowledge Hollywood
and to acknowledge the tragedies that had been going on
because of the fire. And then the songs that followed up,
(00:40):
which actually were from one was from The Wiz and
then obviously one was from also from Wicked, So it
was sort of this Wizer of Oz sort of moment acknowledging,
you know, this city of dreams that Hollywood is. I
thought Conin did a great job. Connan O'Brien did a
terrific job as host and I were talking about that
Friday and how funny he is and what a genius
He actually turned out to be the right guy for
(01:00):
the moment. He handled the He was silly, you know
when he had like the sand word from Dune coming
out and playing this playing musical instrument. I thought was fun,
and he was. He had the right tone of just
like he didn't take it all too seriously, which was
the right way to go. But the winners, how about
like so Anora is the is the Best Picture winner.
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It's one of the lowest box office ranking Best Picture
winners ever, so people kind of haven't seen it. I
want to throw this out there though, because it's about
a The film is about a sex worker. It's kind
of a comedy that she goes with this Russian guy
around Brighton Beach. I want to throw this out there.
It is the only Best Picture winner in ninety seven
years to have scenes in the strip club. Now. I
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don't know if that's an exclamation point or asteris that's what,
But that's kind of a weird thing. You think there
would have been one in Midnight Cowboy back in nineteen
fifty nine. There wasn't. The graduate had one, wasn't didn't
win though, and you would have thought there was one
in Gandhi or shakespeare law in Gandhi.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, that's shocking because he really locked it. Yeah, he
always had Dash with him just for those moments. That's
funny that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, he was spending always cash at the strip clubs
and had nothing more left over.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
To That's right.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I think that in the past also, hasn't it been
that that movies that depend on sex scenes like Anura
and that circle around that topic, they can make it
as a nomination, but they never.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Win exactly right, And you know, you're even thinking about
even things like The Wrestler, you know, which had some
pretty pretty rauchy scenes and strip clubs with Mickey Rourke
and and it's it's you know, it's a it's a
kind of a conceit but it's sort of a Hollywood
sript goes down. I would have thought that the older
voters would have gone for Conclave, which is a good
solid oscar type movie, right and is really good. But
(02:52):
instead I think that the youth vote went for a Nour,
which also got its lead actress, Mikey Madison. She's twenty
five the Best Actress Award. I was kind of happy
about that because, I mean, to me, Moore is fine
in the substance, but it's kind of this gross horror
film kind of thing, and there was sort of this
ground swell of emotion for to me more than oh,
she's deserved it. She's been in movies for forty years. Yeah,
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but they were like Sante almost fire or you know,
things like that. So I think it's okay to not
give me more her Lifetime Achievement Award Oscar. This young
actress did a good job. The director got four Oscars,
Sean Baker, he got the Best Editing, got Best Director,
Best Screenplay, and then because he also produced it, he
also got a fourth Oscar. So he's up there with
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Walt Disney in terms of the most Oscars. Wow, which
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Right. Yeah, I'll tell you why you had given yourself
enough credit, because I remember on Friday, everybody that won
you talked about them as at least a possibility of winning,
and you said that others were not going to win,
and you thought that he you thought that Nora might
do this. Well, I don't think you predicted five Oscars,
but you thought they could win Best Pitcher.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I had a sense of it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. You did. You said
you thought there was a ground swell for that. As
as I remember, I will tell you this. You also
warned about the movie because I said to you, I
got to watch anra and you said, well, you know,
be careful, be careful, man. Did I not take your warning?
I watched it with my wife and my twenty year
(04:20):
old son, and that was the most uncomfortable. Did you
hear that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I know that was the most boy, poor son. He
finally left. He said, you know what, and he made
up an excuse. I'm like, oh, thank god. He said, hey,
you know what I have? I forgot? I have some
homework that I have to work on on Saturday night,
right heat something? Yeah, anything else, but this just get
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me out of this room. I don't want to watch
this with my parents. I didn't realize when you gave
the warning that this was close to being a porn movie.
I mean it was constant throughout through I thought some
of it was gratuitous.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, I totally agree, And in fact, I've heard that
from so many people over the Oscar season. People have said,
which is why I thought like it couldn't win, because
it just seems like, sure, give it, you know, maybe
even getting heard the Oscar or him. The director is fine,
but I didn't think it had the the seriousness to
and it's it's fun and it's ways but exactly it's
for one thing, it's way too long. But right there's
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like like fifty percent of it takes place in strip clubs,
which is which is why I thought, you know, a
seventy five year old Oscar voter is not going to
go for it. But I guess, you know, the seventy five,
I guess. I think actually it also weighed out. I
think that there's so many more younger voters, you know,
under thirty, under forty in the Academy that they that
they gave to. It was also we have to put
in there again. Such a weird year. My favorite film,
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A Complete Unknown, came away without one Oscar, which is
really shocking. I thought that it was. It was funny
that Mick Jagger came out and said, you know, they
wanted to get Bob Dylan, but he didn't want to
do it, so they got somebody younger, So they got Jagger.
Jagger's eighty one, Dylan is eighty three, right, But so
that was sort of it was sort of a shock
that it got that that much love. I was also
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sort of shocked that Adrian Brody won again for the
Brutal List, and then I was shocked that he wouldn't
shut up because that long five minute speech that he
had was you know, come on, and.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It was aggrandizing. I I didn't like the speech at all.
But now he's in an exclusive club, right. How many
people have won two Best Actor Oscars?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Only about a dozen or so in terms of when
you talk about the men, you know, there's you know,
with guys like and then you also have to specify
is it is it best Actor or is it best
Supporting After like Tom Hanks won two Best Actor Oscars,
you know, Spencer Tracy, guys like that, but people like
even Gene Hackman, who they gave a great uh send
off too. I thought last night, we were talking about
that on Friday, how they would handle that, and I
thought that was really elegant. Morgan Freeman came out, uh
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so so you know, guys like like Hackman got Best
Actor and Best Supporting Actor, so he's not even in
that in that club. I thought they handled that really beautifully.
I could even have done more clips. I would been
happy with with or five minutes of Gene Hackman clips,
I mean kind of give it more more ooms like that,
but they did it right. And then the bod did
you see James Bond tribute? The music which was sort
(07:09):
of strange. I like the eightiesness of it. It was
sort of this cheesy eighties number of uh, a sort
of a you know, a salute to to James Bond
because he's been now bought by Amazon. I guess so
they're sort of like they almost felt like they were
put him in the in memorium section. Goodbye James Bond. Uh.
You know what, when I.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Was watching it, I thought to myself, what did I miss?
What this is for?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So make you're right?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That makes us that's funny.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We knew you, we knew you well, James. You know,
take care, good luck on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Joe Newmeyer, that's why you're the best. You told us
basically what was going to happen, and it did. Film
journalists in w o R Movie Minute host, thanks again
for your time and thanks for the recap. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You got it.