July 28, 2025 • 7 mins
There will be a pause of military actives from the IDF in Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will continue to try to take out Hamas. Jordana breaks down for us how Netanyahu's actions could also harm Gaza.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In Gaza. The UN is warning of a humanitarian crisis.
They say food is not getting to a starving population,
and the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyaho says they
are not to blame.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Stop lying, stop finding excuses, do what you have to do,
and stop accusing Israel deliberately of this egregious falsehood.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Is it an egregious falsehood? Well, Jordana Miller is right.
Is live from Israel right now. Jordana, you just heard
the Prime minister. I'm sure you've already heard that. Is
he right? Israel should not be blamed for what's going
on in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I don't think he's right. I mean Israel does deserve
some of the blame for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
I mean, that's that's the I think that's the truth
of it. Yes, the UN has had problems distributing aid. Yes,
they've had power issues and logistic issues. But remember, delivering
(01:05):
aid happens in the context of combat zones and red tape.
That has to go through the Israelis right through the bureaucracy,
and that has complicated. There's no doubt that is complicated
distributing the aid. I mean the Israeli Prime minister says,
there's no policy of starvation.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
The accusation that Israel is intentionally starving Gosins as a
weapon of war, that the Prime minister says is a lie,
and I believe that is a lie. I mean, Israel
has done, I would say, a negligent, insufficient, insufficient job
of getting enough aid into Gaza. But they have not.
(01:50):
They have not embarked on a policy to intentionally starve
the people of Gaza. And it is a lie to
say that Israel has not, you know, has somehow blocked
aid and to the strip. During the war, there were
two months here, a month or six weeks there that
Israel blocked aid. But overall there has been aid, always
(02:10):
getting into the Gaza strip, but really not at sufficient levels.
And Hamas also deserves some of the blame. They have
stolen aid repeatedly. Though there have been reports, it's not
it has not been systematic, you know. The Israelis say, well,
sometimes you know, they're they're paying off and working with
(02:33):
some U N U N employees who just give Hamas
the aid or get compensated for it. So Hamas has
a system whereby it is siphoning off significant amounts of
aid and then you know, reselling it to the public
at exorbitant prices. And you know, we can just look
(02:54):
at the pictures of thousands of Hamas fighters that came
out during the seaside in January and February. None of
them looked emaciated right or even close. They were certainly
eating during what was then already you know, fourteen fifteen
months of war. So the idea that you know, Israel
(03:17):
is carrying out a policy of starvation, I think that
is erroneous. But Israel is to blame for what's happening
there and some real critical mistakes. Looking back, Perhaps nataniel
made a major mistake in blocking aid from March until
May ten weeks, thinking it would pressure Hamas after the
(03:37):
ceasefire expired and well was unable to move forward and
Israel broke the seafire. That appears to have been a
major mistake. The JHF never got up to scale, was
never able to feed gosins, not to mention how deadly
the whole endeavor was, right, dozens of people killed every day.
(03:59):
So na'tanielle made some critical errors in the aid issue,
There's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So let's look forward on this. You know, the word
famine is being thrown around. It needs some immediate attention.
Will the pause, the tactical pause by the Israeli defense forces,
Will that help to now get all of the supplies
in that the Palestinians need.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think it will go far in alleviating the hunger
crisis there. I don't think. I don't think technically it
meets the definition of famine, but there are certainly hunger,
widespread hunger, and people are you know, starving and not
eating for days, days on end. That's what we're hearing
(04:46):
from aid organizations really across the board, including employees of
eight organizations. The main avenue that will help the Palestinians
are the the safe routes that the Israelis have promised
now to keep open for seventeen hours a day between
six am and eleven pm to bring in aid and
(05:08):
then combat stopping for ten hours in major populated areas
where people can move around and get the aid. That
will make a difference. The air drops they look, you know, dramatic,
they provide pictures. Air drops, you know, are not anywhere
near as efficient as trucks.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I know, we don't have a lot of time right now,
but I wanted to talk about another topic which would
help with all of this. I think, where are the
ceasefire talks now? Anywhere closer?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Nope, Nope, there's no real ceasire talks going on between
Hamas and Israel. The United States is talking to the
mediators at times, but there's nothing going back and forth
right now. I think we're not close to a ceasefire.
I think there's a lot of you know, rethinking going
(05:57):
on right now in Israel in the United States. You
know what should come next? Could it be an all
for all swap to end this war instead of something phased,
or will we see an intensification and Israel try to
take over the Gaza strip and a military occupation. What
Senator Lindsay Graham seemed to lay out this weekend in
(06:21):
some of his interviews with the press. We're gonna have
to wait and see, all.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Right, Jordana Miller, ABC News correspondent in Jerusalem, as always,
thank you so much. Man. That was depressing. You know,
you think all of the time you're going to get
something positive, because every time we start down a road
of ceasefire, talks of a big agreement of aid finally
(06:45):
getting into Gaza, it all goes south, and it seems
to go south quickly every single time. And it's gotten
to the point, which really is bothersome is Donald Trump
doesn't even talk about it so much anymore. It's almost
like the people of Palestine have just been forgotten in
this whole thing. And I understand that you can blame
(07:07):
Hamas and not blame all of the Palestinian people. You know,
certainly the babies there didn't deserve all of this. So
we need a world response to this, not just a
US response, not just an Israeli response, but a world
response to the entire thing. It's and you know, we're
not going to settle it on a radio show right now,
(07:29):
but I'm hoping that greater minds are already thinking about
all of this.
In Gaza. The UN is warning of a humanitarian crisis.
They say food is not getting to a starving population,
and the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyaho says they
are not to blame.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Stop lying, stop finding excuses, do what you have to do,
and stop accusing Israel deliberately of this egregious falsehood.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Is it an egregious falsehood? Well, Jordana Miller is right.
Is live from Israel right now. Jordana, you just heard
the Prime minister. I'm sure you've already heard that. Is
he right? Israel should not be blamed for what's going
on in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I don't think he's right. I mean Israel does deserve
some of the blame for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
I mean, that's that's the I think that's the truth
of it. Yes, the UN has had problems distributing aid. Yes,
they've had power issues and logistic issues. But remember, delivering
(01:05):
aid happens in the context of combat zones and red tape.
That has to go through the Israelis right through the bureaucracy,
and that has complicated. There's no doubt that is complicated
distributing the aid. I mean the Israeli Prime minister says,
there's no policy of starvation.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
The accusation that Israel is intentionally starving Gosins as a
weapon of war, that the Prime minister says is a lie,
and I believe that is a lie. I mean, Israel
has done, I would say, a negligent, insufficient, insufficient job
of getting enough aid into Gaza. But they have not.
(01:50):
They have not embarked on a policy to intentionally starve
the people of Gaza. And it is a lie to
say that Israel has not, you know, has somehow blocked
aid and to the strip. During the war, there were
two months here, a month or six weeks there that
Israel blocked aid. But overall there has been aid, always
(02:10):
getting into the Gaza strip, but really not at sufficient levels.
And Hamas also deserves some of the blame. They have
stolen aid repeatedly. Though there have been reports, it's not
it has not been systematic, you know. The Israelis say, well,
sometimes you know, they're they're paying off and working with
(02:33):
some U N U N employees who just give Hamas
the aid or get compensated for it. So Hamas has
a system whereby it is siphoning off significant amounts of
aid and then you know, reselling it to the public
at exorbitant prices. And you know, we can just look
(02:54):
at the pictures of thousands of Hamas fighters that came
out during the seaside in January and February. None of
them looked emaciated right or even close. They were certainly
eating during what was then already you know, fourteen fifteen
months of war. So the idea that you know, Israel
(03:17):
is carrying out a policy of starvation, I think that
is erroneous. But Israel is to blame for what's happening
there and some real critical mistakes. Looking back, Perhaps nataniel
made a major mistake in blocking aid from March until
May ten weeks, thinking it would pressure Hamas after the
(03:37):
ceasefire expired and well was unable to move forward and
Israel broke the seafire. That appears to have been a
major mistake. The JHF never got up to scale, was
never able to feed gosins, not to mention how deadly
the whole endeavor was, right, dozens of people killed every day.
(03:59):
So na'tanielle made some critical errors in the aid issue,
There's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So let's look forward on this. You know, the word
famine is being thrown around. It needs some immediate attention.
Will the pause, the tactical pause by the Israeli defense forces,
Will that help to now get all of the supplies
in that the Palestinians need.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think it will go far in alleviating the hunger
crisis there. I don't think. I don't think technically it
meets the definition of famine, but there are certainly hunger,
widespread hunger, and people are you know, starving and not
eating for days, days on end. That's what we're hearing
(04:46):
from aid organizations really across the board, including employees of
eight organizations. The main avenue that will help the Palestinians
are the the safe routes that the Israelis have promised
now to keep open for seventeen hours a day between
six am and eleven pm to bring in aid and
(05:08):
then combat stopping for ten hours in major populated areas
where people can move around and get the aid. That
will make a difference. The air drops they look, you know, dramatic,
they provide pictures. Air drops, you know, are not anywhere
near as efficient as trucks.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I know, we don't have a lot of time right now,
but I wanted to talk about another topic which would
help with all of this. I think, where are the
ceasefire talks now? Anywhere closer?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Nope, Nope, there's no real ceasire talks going on between
Hamas and Israel. The United States is talking to the
mediators at times, but there's nothing going back and forth
right now. I think we're not close to a ceasefire.
I think there's a lot of you know, rethinking going
(05:57):
on right now in Israel in the United States. You
know what should come next? Could it be an all
for all swap to end this war instead of something phased,
or will we see an intensification and Israel try to
take over the Gaza strip and a military occupation. What
Senator Lindsay Graham seemed to lay out this weekend in
(06:21):
some of his interviews with the press. We're gonna have
to wait and see, all.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Right, Jordana Miller, ABC News correspondent in Jerusalem, as always,
thank you so much. Man. That was depressing. You know,
you think all of the time you're going to get
something positive, because every time we start down a road
of ceasefire, talks of a big agreement of aid finally
(06:45):
getting into Gaza, it all goes south, and it seems
to go south quickly every single time. And it's gotten
to the point, which really is bothersome is Donald Trump
doesn't even talk about it so much anymore. It's almost
like the people of Palestine have just been forgotten in
this whole thing. And I understand that you can blame
(07:07):
Hamas and not blame all of the Palestinian people. You know,
certainly the babies there didn't deserve all of this. So
we need a world response to this, not just a
US response, not just an Israeli response, but a world
response to the entire thing. It's and you know, we're
not going to settle it on a radio show right now,
(07:29):
but I'm hoping that greater minds are already thinking about
all of this.
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