May 22, 2025 • 8 mins
Mary reminisces about what Cuomo did to your grandparents during Covid 19 for seniors. Cuomo lied to Congress which is a federal issue.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's a pleasure to have Mary Rook back on
the air. She does commentary and analysis for The Daily Caller.
Good morning, Mary, Hi Larry, how are you doing this morning.
I'm doing really well. How are you doing great?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No problem. I wanted to get you on because one
of your recent columns, one of your recent opinion pieces,
because now Andrew Cuomo is looking at possible charges for
lying to Congress about the deaths the fifteen thousand deaths
in senior centers in New York when he forced the
(00:35):
people to stay there, and your article has a fascinating headline,
don't forget what Cuomo did to your grandparents. I trust me,
there's some people in New York that will never forget that. Mary.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, no, I've remember during COVID kind of fighting alongside
Janice with Fox News against Cuomo and the shutdowns, because
I was fighting the same exact battle here in Texas
with my own grandparents. And you know, they were locking
our grandparents away from us and not letting us see uh,
(01:12):
not letting us be able to spend time with them,
and we would have to be in the you know,
in the parking lots and watching them, you know, as
they're waving to us from outside the window or outside
the balcony, and we were told we were going to
hurt them. And then all of a sudden, we find
out that New York starts mandating that they put COVID
(01:32):
positive patients in these nursing homes and sits of living places.
And it shocked me. And so I think that there's
this outrage that's kind of been meddled because a lot
of time has passed, and I think it's time that
we bring that back. These policies cannot go unanswered. What
happened during COVID coundnot be pushed under the rug. We
(01:54):
have to have accountability for things like this, and especially
for people like Andrew Poma. They cannot wash the stain
off their hands. They have to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Mary, did you say it was your It was your
mom or your dad that was in the nursing home?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
My grandmother actually, And yeah, my grandfather passed away in
February of twenty twenty, right before everything shut down from COVID,
and so we were really worried about her the entire time,
being alone for the first time in over fifty years.
And so It was one of those situations where I
really sympathized with the people of New York when they
when they're sitting there and kind of dealing with the
(02:30):
same exact thing I was dealing with.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Was she okay? Did she turn out to be okay?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
She did? She looked through COVID. However, I do have
several friends whose grandparents passed away during COVID, and they
were either a not allowed to see them or not
allowed to go to their funeral, not allowed to obviously
be there when they passed away. So their grandparents passed away,
you know, alone in the room, and then if they
were our CEO, if they were allowed to go to
(02:58):
the funeral, it was six feet apart. No one was
allowed to touch each other, grieve with each other, grieve
as a normal you know, family. And so I really
hold a lot of I wouldn't say anger, It's more
like sadness and disappointment with the way that people handled COVID,
especially those in charge. They took power. Like I said
(03:18):
in My Peace, it was one of those things where
you watch sun states or local cities kind of relinquished
that power that they could have held onto and then
you saw others hold onto it with an iron tight
grip and and you know, really wield that power nonsensically.
And some of these things felt that way, especially whenever
you're looking at the fact that, Okay, so I can't
(03:40):
go in and see my loved ones that are in
this nursing home, but you're going to put COVID positive
patients regardless of whether or not the facility wants them
or not, or can handle them or has the capacity
to deal with the you know, the illness. And you
know with all of these other elderly people, they're going
to tell me that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I can't go in, right, I get it. And you
were talking about when you said Janie from Fox News,
you were talking about Janice Dean, the meteorologist, yes, who
was out in front in fighting Andrew Cuomo and out
in front and representing all of the people who had
parents and grandparents in the nursing homes and were concerned
for them. Janie Dean and you because considering what you
(04:23):
went through and thank God that your grandmother survived it,
but so many people went through that worry, and so
many people went through the deaths of loved ones. You
must feel some satisfaction right now that the Justice Department
is now going after Andrew Cuomo. They're investigating and they're
expecting charges.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, you know what, there is a bit of satisfaction.
You don't ever want to wish oh well on people,
but you do want people to be held accountable for
the wrong that they did. But you know, they shouldn't
stop at Cuomo. I know that they're going after him
for essentially under reporting. I think that that's technically how
they're getting him. There he there was that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Then he lied about That's that's what they're going after.
And he lied to Congress, which is a federal offense exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I think that any sympathy that you could ever
have for that man is lost. The moment that you
remember that he said, who cares if they died in
the hospital, died in nursing home, they died, the callous
way in which he talked about the deaths that did happen,
The fact that he lied about, the the underreporting, the
fact that they were underreporting, you know, all of these.
(05:36):
It's it's not enough, though, to just go after Andrew Cuomo.
There should be you know, so many other governors held accountable,
like Gretchen Whitmer, who did the same thing in Michigan.
I mean, there were several states who mandated this same
exact policy, and you know, the families of these people
who died really deserved to have a record with these
(06:00):
people and who deserve to be able to see justice happen.
And so I don't know that we'll see that that
at least with Andrew CMO. Hopefully we will.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And Phil Murphy in New Jersey, Phil Murphy, I heard
a tape of him talking to the owners of these
nursing homes and senior centers and saying what his plan was,
and one of them said people will die, and then
there was nobody responded, and he goes, is is every
gonna talk about this? People are going to die if
(06:27):
you do this? And so they knew, but they were
being forced by these governors to do something they knew
what would hurt the health and maybe kill the people
that were in their nursing homes. So it was an
edict and they felt like they had no other choice.
And I'm so glad that you're out there writing these
articles because there's so many people right now in New
(06:50):
York who lost loved ones because of Andrew Cuomo who
are trying to get some attention and aren't. So they
need your voice, and they need others like you, and
I need to do it here to talk more about
what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, you know, I think it's really important that people
remember this because he's essentially trying to whitewash what happened
with this mayoral race in New York City, and the
people of New York City cannot allow that to happen.
That there's a primary race for the Democratic Party. I
think it's June the fourteenth and the fifteenth over there
(07:25):
in New York City, and the people have to vote
against them. They show in your vote how disappointed you
are with his policies that hurt you know, your city,
that hurt your families, that hurt the families and the
people that you know, and don't let him do this.
It's an absolute disgusting travesty that he even thought that
he could run and now that people have to hold
(07:47):
him accountable.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, I know there's a whole lot of people listening
out there right now who have been trying to get
attention to this issue, who were praising you and saying
thank God that she spoke up and we can talk
about this again another time. Mary, thank you so much
for the time today, and thank you so much for
the article. I appreciate it. I know a lot of
people in New York appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Alary, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Talk to you again soon
Well, it's a pleasure to have Mary Rook back on
the air. She does commentary and analysis for The Daily Caller.
Good morning, Mary, Hi Larry, how are you doing this morning.
I'm doing really well. How are you doing great?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No problem. I wanted to get you on because one
of your recent columns, one of your recent opinion pieces,
because now Andrew Cuomo is looking at possible charges for
lying to Congress about the deaths the fifteen thousand deaths
in senior centers in New York when he forced the
(00:35):
people to stay there, and your article has a fascinating headline,
don't forget what Cuomo did to your grandparents. I trust me,
there's some people in New York that will never forget that. Mary.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, no, I've remember during COVID kind of fighting alongside
Janice with Fox News against Cuomo and the shutdowns, because
I was fighting the same exact battle here in Texas
with my own grandparents. And you know, they were locking
our grandparents away from us and not letting us see uh,
(01:12):
not letting us be able to spend time with them,
and we would have to be in the you know,
in the parking lots and watching them, you know, as
they're waving to us from outside the window or outside
the balcony, and we were told we were going to
hurt them. And then all of a sudden, we find
out that New York starts mandating that they put COVID
(01:32):
positive patients in these nursing homes and sits of living places.
And it shocked me. And so I think that there's
this outrage that's kind of been meddled because a lot
of time has passed, and I think it's time that
we bring that back. These policies cannot go unanswered. What
happened during COVID coundnot be pushed under the rug. We
(01:54):
have to have accountability for things like this, and especially
for people like Andrew Poma. They cannot wash the stain
off their hands. They have to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Mary, did you say it was your It was your
mom or your dad that was in the nursing home?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
My grandmother actually, And yeah, my grandfather passed away in
February of twenty twenty, right before everything shut down from COVID,
and so we were really worried about her the entire time,
being alone for the first time in over fifty years.
And so It was one of those situations where I
really sympathized with the people of New York when they
when they're sitting there and kind of dealing with the
(02:30):
same exact thing I was dealing with.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Was she okay? Did she turn out to be okay?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
She did? She looked through COVID. However, I do have
several friends whose grandparents passed away during COVID, and they
were either a not allowed to see them or not
allowed to go to their funeral, not allowed to obviously
be there when they passed away. So their grandparents passed away,
you know, alone in the room, and then if they
were our CEO, if they were allowed to go to
(02:58):
the funeral, it was six feet apart. No one was
allowed to touch each other, grieve with each other, grieve
as a normal you know, family. And so I really
hold a lot of I wouldn't say anger, It's more
like sadness and disappointment with the way that people handled COVID,
especially those in charge. They took power. Like I said
(03:18):
in My Peace, it was one of those things where
you watch sun states or local cities kind of relinquished
that power that they could have held onto and then
you saw others hold onto it with an iron tight
grip and and you know, really wield that power nonsensically.
And some of these things felt that way, especially whenever
you're looking at the fact that, Okay, so I can't
(03:40):
go in and see my loved ones that are in
this nursing home, but you're going to put COVID positive
patients regardless of whether or not the facility wants them
or not, or can handle them or has the capacity
to deal with the you know, the illness. And you
know with all of these other elderly people, they're going
to tell me that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I can't go in, right, I get it. And you
were talking about when you said Janie from Fox News,
you were talking about Janice Dean, the meteorologist, yes, who
was out in front in fighting Andrew Cuomo and out
in front and representing all of the people who had
parents and grandparents in the nursing homes and were concerned
for them. Janie Dean and you because considering what you
(04:23):
went through and thank God that your grandmother survived it,
but so many people went through that worry, and so
many people went through the deaths of loved ones. You
must feel some satisfaction right now that the Justice Department
is now going after Andrew Cuomo. They're investigating and they're
expecting charges.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, you know what, there is a bit of satisfaction.
You don't ever want to wish oh well on people,
but you do want people to be held accountable for
the wrong that they did. But you know, they shouldn't
stop at Cuomo. I know that they're going after him
for essentially under reporting. I think that that's technically how
they're getting him. There he there was that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Then he lied about That's that's what they're going after.
And he lied to Congress, which is a federal offense exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I think that any sympathy that you could ever
have for that man is lost. The moment that you
remember that he said, who cares if they died in
the hospital, died in nursing home, they died, the callous
way in which he talked about the deaths that did happen,
The fact that he lied about, the the underreporting, the
fact that they were underreporting, you know, all of these.
(05:36):
It's it's not enough, though, to just go after Andrew Cuomo.
There should be you know, so many other governors held accountable,
like Gretchen Whitmer, who did the same thing in Michigan.
I mean, there were several states who mandated this same
exact policy, and you know, the families of these people
who died really deserved to have a record with these
(06:00):
people and who deserve to be able to see justice happen.
And so I don't know that we'll see that that
at least with Andrew CMO. Hopefully we will.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And Phil Murphy in New Jersey, Phil Murphy, I heard
a tape of him talking to the owners of these
nursing homes and senior centers and saying what his plan was,
and one of them said people will die, and then
there was nobody responded, and he goes, is is every
gonna talk about this? People are going to die if
(06:27):
you do this? And so they knew, but they were
being forced by these governors to do something they knew
what would hurt the health and maybe kill the people
that were in their nursing homes. So it was an
edict and they felt like they had no other choice.
And I'm so glad that you're out there writing these
articles because there's so many people right now in New
(06:50):
York who lost loved ones because of Andrew Cuomo who
are trying to get some attention and aren't. So they
need your voice, and they need others like you, and
I need to do it here to talk more about
what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, you know, I think it's really important that people
remember this because he's essentially trying to whitewash what happened
with this mayoral race in New York City, and the
people of New York City cannot allow that to happen.
That there's a primary race for the Democratic Party. I
think it's June the fourteenth and the fifteenth over there
(07:25):
in New York City, and the people have to vote
against them. They show in your vote how disappointed you
are with his policies that hurt you know, your city,
that hurt your families, that hurt the families and the
people that you know, and don't let him do this.
It's an absolute disgusting travesty that he even thought that
he could run and now that people have to hold
(07:47):
him accountable.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, I know there's a whole lot of people listening
out there right now who have been trying to get
attention to this issue, who were praising you and saying
thank God that she spoke up and we can talk
about this again another time. Mary, thank you so much
for the time today, and thank you so much for
the article. I appreciate it. I know a lot of
people in New York appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Alary, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Talk to you again soon
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