May 22, 2025 • 9 mins
Larry had some questions about tech such as, if there is a ChatGPT phone coming, Fortnite making a comeback on the iPhone after five years, and there's a cashback app that just launched in the U.S. and it's supposed to give you money back from buying stuff on Amazon.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know you're all excited. I know you just can't wait.
But the announcement of who wins the MENTI and the
Morning T shirt will be up in just a couple
of minutes, So just hold on the talk back of
the Morning to be announced in just a couple of minutes.
And with that, this is pretty exciting. The headline of
(00:21):
rich DeMuro today is very exciting. Rich DeMuro. By the way,
you hear here on wor rich on Tech has heard
Sunday nights from eight to eleven pm on this station
at rich on Tech on Instagram is how you can
reach him with any of your tech questions. Rich as always, thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
For being here, Hey, thanks for having me Larie.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Sure this idea? Is it a new iPhone? It's like
an iPhone? Right, It's a new phone that is designed
by a former Apple designer.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, this is actually a pretty big headline in the
tech world. So Johnny I I've had been with Apple
for many, many years. He is credited with pretty much
the design of almost every major Apple product of the
last twenty or thirty years, specifically the iPhone. Of course,
he left a couple of years ago started his own company,
but now open AI is buying his hardware startup for
(01:20):
you know, cool six billion dollars, and they are going
to work together to create some sort of AI gadgets.
Now we don't know what that is exactly. I mean,
it could be a phone that would be kind of
too easy, but more like moving past the phone, moving
past the screen, something like a wearable, something like glasses,
something like a pendant. Everyone's trying to figure out how
(01:43):
to make AI work in real time for the average
person without typing into a computer or looking at a screen.
And I think that's what they're going to work on here.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But this would be in direct competition to Apple.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Right yeah, to everyone. I mean you're talking right now.
Open ai. They have a lot of partnerships with companies,
but they are in direct competition with everyone Google, Apple,
every you know, Facebook, Meta, every major tech company. But
at the same time they have to ride this line
where you know, open ai is partnered with the iPhone
to provide CHATCHYBT not so much Google for sure. Those
(02:19):
two are definitely not frenemies at all, or even enemies.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'd say so.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, you know, in Meta, same thing. I mean,
Meta has their own AI. So open ai is sort
of the powerhouse right now in the tech world, and
them partnering with such an iconic designer to work on
hardware is a massive deal.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, I guess I'm just shocked that he doesn't have
a non compete. Usually when somebody like that leaves a company,
they make sure he doesn't compete with him for a
long time. But here he is. I mean, or maybe
the maybe it ran.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Out, Yeah I could have. I mean, it's been a
couple years since he left Apple. It was a big
deal when Johnny I've left Apple. He started his own
company that he's done a lot of design work for
Third you know, for other companies as well. But this
is this is interesting because they're buying his hardware startup outright.
So he still has his design firm, which, you know,
(03:10):
he's got a bunch of things, you know, a bunch
of things cooking here. But he still has his design firm.
This is his hardware startup again, six point five billion dollars.
It must be good. They must be working on something big.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, yes, well, everybody wants to be part of AI. Now.
I see you have a story about Fortnite. My kids
are big fans of Fortnite and that's coming back to iPhone.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, this is a big deal because it's been five years.
Epic Games, the makers of Fortnite, they fought Apple really
really hard on the idea that the only way you
can make a purchase through the apps that you download
on the iPhone is through the app store, you know,
through Apple's own app store purchasing and app purchasing. And
(03:52):
Fortnite said, why are we paying you thirty percent on
all these people making in app purchases in our game
for year in, year out. And they said, we're not
doing that anymore. We want to open this up. And
it was a huge court case, took them five years,
but they finally won. And now you'll notice if you
look at a lot of apps, a lot of popular
apps on the iPhone, they're starting to give you third
(04:13):
party payment options. That could be through your credit card,
that could be through PayPal, could be through an external website.
But Fortnite is back after a major legal battle, and
it's already like the top app downloaded on the iPhone
for a good reason. People missed it, like your kids.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, I'll tell you what, rich. It must be good
to be rich de Muro. You know what You're like,
you're like a movie critic that gets to see all
the movies, or are somebody that covers sports that gets
to see all the sports events for free. You get
to see everything first, and you got to see a
new addition from Google.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah. So I was just up at Google Io up
in their headquarters in Mountain View, and yes, I do
appreciate that. I'm also like that doctor at the party
where someone's like, hey, would you take a quick look
at my rash I'm like, yeah, I'm just trying to
have a nice night here. You know, your email does
not work on your phone. Okay, fine, I'll figure it
out for you. But yeah, Google had what's called Google
ioh this is their big conference, and they showed off
(05:08):
a couple of new things that you can try immediately
this if you haven't tried it. It's called Ai Mode.
And when you go to Google dot com, look for
the little tab or the button that says AI mode.
It is really good, Larry. It is like their answer
to chat GBT. You can ask really detailed questions inside
Google search box now and get really detailed, concise answers.
(05:32):
They it'll even show you it's searching through like one
hundred and fifty websites to find the answer for you.
And it's really good, so definitely be on the lookout
for that. The other new feature that they announced is
called Gemini Live and this basically embodies AI, which you know,
their brand of AI is called Gemini. Embodies it with
your phone's camera, so you can literally aim your camera
(05:54):
at something and ask about that. And this is through
the Gemini app if you download. It's a Vail on
iPhone now they just made it available, but you can
literally broadcast your cameras, you know, whatever your camera sees,
and AI will say, hey, I see what you're looking at.
What can I help you with?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And you can say, hey, I'm trying to identify this
painting or help with troubleshooting whatever you need. Larry, it
is quite incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, that is amazing by the way, I feel your pain,
or at least my son feels your pain. He worked
at Apple for fifteen years and every time people knew
he was going to be at a party, they would
bring devices for him to look at, and they would
actually I'm not kidding when I say this, they would
actually sometimes be aligned. So I can't imagine what you
go through when you're at it wear.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Not that popular. I mean that's next level. But yeah,
I mean if you worked at the Apple Store, people
are like, look, I'm not waiting in line. I'm going
to talk to you and get this fixed. Oh yeah, no, No,
they'd bring bills. They'd bring phone bills. It got to
be insane. We actually had to ask people to please stop.
And there's a new cash back app. I love this story,
(06:58):
so you can maybe get a dollar back. Yeah, this
is wild. This is a new extension, new tool, new
app that's from It was popular in Asia and Australia
just came to the United States. It is called shop
back and you install this on your browser. You go
to Amazon, it kicks in, it says, hey do you
want a dollar back on this purchase? You activate it
(07:20):
and you know, within a couple of weeks you'll get
your dollar back. But it also works on other websites Walmart,
Best Buy, Macy's, Expedia. You can get cash back on
those orders. And Larry, we know the endgame here is
obviously to make you shop more, to make you spend money.
They get some of that data from your shopping. You
get that cash back, and they're also offering these things
(07:40):
like little games. They call them quests, so they'll say, hey,
if you spend ten dollars in the next three days
on you know, or if you spend two hundred dollars
in the next three days, we'll give you ten dollars back,
or we'll give you five dollars if you shop at
this store. So again, kind of a cool thing. I've
got it linked up on my website if you want
to sign up. I'm signed up and waiting for my
first dollar back from am On. You can get that
(08:01):
on every order, by the way, apparently that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I love this. We should make this a regular feature.
You have five super useful websites that everybody should know about.
We do only have a limited time here, but can
you get through a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, and I'll link this up on my website as well.
Rich on tech dot tv. This kind of stuff's very popular.
It's just little helpful sites. Like if you want to
avoid spam, maybe you're signing up for a newsletter for
a promo code. There's a website called ten minute mail
dot com. You go there, they give you an email address.
You can check that email for ten minutes. Then it
just self destructs, so you don't have to worry about it.
(08:37):
File dot Pizza. Let's say you have an Android, your
friend has an iPhone. You have a Windows computer, they
have a Mac. You want to transfer a large file.
Just open upfile dot pizza, drag it in and you'll
get a little QR code they can scan on their
phone and it will transfer that file right to their device. Wow,
let's see buy nothingproject dot org. You want free stuff
(08:57):
in your neighborhood. Lario was in my neighborhood. This guy
comes to my neighbor's house and he says, hey, I'm
just picking something up, And I said, oh, yeah, that's
my neighbor right there. People just leave stuff out on
their porch. Someone else picks it up. It's all free.
It's like a giving economy. So buy Nothingproject dot organ.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Rich let's do this. Let's do this. Let's make this
a big tease for your website. He just gave you three.
The last two. You got to go to rich on
tech dot tv to get rich on tech dot tv.
And if you have forgot any of the other ones,
you can get all five of the websites that you should.
You should check out. Rich Is that a good idea?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Six for the price of five. I love it, Larry,
We're reeling and dealing here.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Rich to Viro. Rich on Tech has heard Sunday nights
from eight to eleven on wo r rich on Tech
on Instagram if you want to contact him, Thanks a lot,
Rich
I know you're all excited. I know you just can't wait.
But the announcement of who wins the MENTI and the
Morning T shirt will be up in just a couple
of minutes, So just hold on the talk back of
the Morning to be announced in just a couple of minutes.
And with that, this is pretty exciting. The headline of
(00:21):
rich DeMuro today is very exciting. Rich DeMuro. By the way,
you hear here on wor rich on Tech has heard
Sunday nights from eight to eleven pm on this station
at rich on Tech on Instagram is how you can
reach him with any of your tech questions. Rich as always, thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
For being here, Hey, thanks for having me Larie.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Sure this idea? Is it a new iPhone? It's like
an iPhone? Right, It's a new phone that is designed
by a former Apple designer.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, this is actually a pretty big headline in the
tech world. So Johnny I I've had been with Apple
for many, many years. He is credited with pretty much
the design of almost every major Apple product of the
last twenty or thirty years, specifically the iPhone. Of course,
he left a couple of years ago started his own company,
but now open AI is buying his hardware startup for
(01:20):
you know, cool six billion dollars, and they are going
to work together to create some sort of AI gadgets.
Now we don't know what that is exactly. I mean,
it could be a phone that would be kind of
too easy, but more like moving past the phone, moving
past the screen, something like a wearable, something like glasses,
something like a pendant. Everyone's trying to figure out how
(01:43):
to make AI work in real time for the average
person without typing into a computer or looking at a screen.
And I think that's what they're going to work on here.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But this would be in direct competition to Apple.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Right yeah, to everyone. I mean you're talking right now.
Open ai. They have a lot of partnerships with companies,
but they are in direct competition with everyone Google, Apple,
every you know, Facebook, Meta, every major tech company. But
at the same time they have to ride this line
where you know, open ai is partnered with the iPhone
to provide CHATCHYBT not so much Google for sure. Those
(02:19):
two are definitely not frenemies at all, or even enemies.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'd say so.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I mean, you know, in Meta, same thing. I mean,
Meta has their own AI. So open ai is sort
of the powerhouse right now in the tech world, and
them partnering with such an iconic designer to work on
hardware is a massive deal.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, I guess I'm just shocked that he doesn't have
a non compete. Usually when somebody like that leaves a company,
they make sure he doesn't compete with him for a
long time. But here he is. I mean, or maybe
the maybe it ran.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Out, Yeah I could have. I mean, it's been a
couple years since he left Apple. It was a big
deal when Johnny I've left Apple. He started his own
company that he's done a lot of design work for
Third you know, for other companies as well. But this
is this is interesting because they're buying his hardware startup outright.
So he still has his design firm, which, you know,
(03:10):
he's got a bunch of things, you know, a bunch
of things cooking here. But he still has his design firm.
This is his hardware startup again, six point five billion dollars.
It must be good. They must be working on something big.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, yes, well, everybody wants to be part of AI. Now.
I see you have a story about Fortnite. My kids
are big fans of Fortnite and that's coming back to iPhone.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, this is a big deal because it's been five years.
Epic Games, the makers of Fortnite, they fought Apple really
really hard on the idea that the only way you
can make a purchase through the apps that you download
on the iPhone is through the app store, you know,
through Apple's own app store purchasing and app purchasing. And
(03:52):
Fortnite said, why are we paying you thirty percent on
all these people making in app purchases in our game
for year in, year out. And they said, we're not
doing that anymore. We want to open this up. And
it was a huge court case, took them five years,
but they finally won. And now you'll notice if you
look at a lot of apps, a lot of popular
apps on the iPhone, they're starting to give you third
(04:13):
party payment options. That could be through your credit card,
that could be through PayPal, could be through an external website.
But Fortnite is back after a major legal battle, and
it's already like the top app downloaded on the iPhone
for a good reason. People missed it, like your kids.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, I'll tell you what, rich. It must be good
to be rich de Muro. You know what You're like,
you're like a movie critic that gets to see all
the movies, or are somebody that covers sports that gets
to see all the sports events for free. You get
to see everything first, and you got to see a
new addition from Google.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah. So I was just up at Google Io up
in their headquarters in Mountain View, and yes, I do
appreciate that. I'm also like that doctor at the party
where someone's like, hey, would you take a quick look
at my rash I'm like, yeah, I'm just trying to
have a nice night here. You know, your email does
not work on your phone. Okay, fine, I'll figure it
out for you. But yeah, Google had what's called Google
ioh this is their big conference, and they showed off
(05:08):
a couple of new things that you can try immediately
this if you haven't tried it. It's called Ai Mode.
And when you go to Google dot com, look for
the little tab or the button that says AI mode.
It is really good, Larry. It is like their answer
to chat GBT. You can ask really detailed questions inside
Google search box now and get really detailed, concise answers.
(05:32):
They it'll even show you it's searching through like one
hundred and fifty websites to find the answer for you.
And it's really good, so definitely be on the lookout
for that. The other new feature that they announced is
called Gemini Live and this basically embodies AI, which you know,
their brand of AI is called Gemini. Embodies it with
your phone's camera, so you can literally aim your camera
(05:54):
at something and ask about that. And this is through
the Gemini app if you download. It's a Vail on
iPhone now they just made it available, but you can
literally broadcast your cameras, you know, whatever your camera sees,
and AI will say, hey, I see what you're looking at.
What can I help you with?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And you can say, hey, I'm trying to identify this
painting or help with troubleshooting whatever you need. Larry, it
is quite incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, that is amazing by the way, I feel your pain,
or at least my son feels your pain. He worked
at Apple for fifteen years and every time people knew
he was going to be at a party, they would
bring devices for him to look at, and they would
actually I'm not kidding when I say this, they would
actually sometimes be aligned. So I can't imagine what you
go through when you're at it wear.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Not that popular. I mean that's next level. But yeah,
I mean if you worked at the Apple Store, people
are like, look, I'm not waiting in line. I'm going
to talk to you and get this fixed. Oh yeah, no, No,
they'd bring bills. They'd bring phone bills. It got to
be insane. We actually had to ask people to please stop.
And there's a new cash back app. I love this story,
(06:58):
so you can maybe get a dollar back. Yeah, this
is wild. This is a new extension, new tool, new
app that's from It was popular in Asia and Australia
just came to the United States. It is called shop
back and you install this on your browser. You go
to Amazon, it kicks in, it says, hey do you
want a dollar back on this purchase? You activate it
(07:20):
and you know, within a couple of weeks you'll get
your dollar back. But it also works on other websites Walmart,
Best Buy, Macy's, Expedia. You can get cash back on
those orders. And Larry, we know the endgame here is
obviously to make you shop more, to make you spend money.
They get some of that data from your shopping. You
get that cash back, and they're also offering these things
(07:40):
like little games. They call them quests, so they'll say, hey,
if you spend ten dollars in the next three days
on you know, or if you spend two hundred dollars
in the next three days, we'll give you ten dollars back,
or we'll give you five dollars if you shop at
this store. So again, kind of a cool thing. I've
got it linked up on my website if you want
to sign up. I'm signed up and waiting for my
first dollar back from am On. You can get that
(08:01):
on every order, by the way, apparently that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I love this. We should make this a regular feature.
You have five super useful websites that everybody should know about.
We do only have a limited time here, but can
you get through a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, and I'll link this up on my website as well.
Rich on tech dot tv. This kind of stuff's very popular.
It's just little helpful sites. Like if you want to
avoid spam, maybe you're signing up for a newsletter for
a promo code. There's a website called ten minute mail
dot com. You go there, they give you an email address.
You can check that email for ten minutes. Then it
just self destructs, so you don't have to worry about it.
(08:37):
File dot Pizza. Let's say you have an Android, your
friend has an iPhone. You have a Windows computer, they
have a Mac. You want to transfer a large file.
Just open upfile dot pizza, drag it in and you'll
get a little QR code they can scan on their
phone and it will transfer that file right to their device. Wow,
let's see buy nothingproject dot org. You want free stuff
(08:57):
in your neighborhood. Lario was in my neighborhood. This guy
comes to my neighbor's house and he says, hey, I'm
just picking something up, And I said, oh, yeah, that's
my neighbor right there. People just leave stuff out on
their porch. Someone else picks it up. It's all free.
It's like a giving economy. So buy Nothingproject dot organ.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Rich let's do this. Let's do this. Let's make this
a big tease for your website. He just gave you three.
The last two. You got to go to rich on
tech dot tv to get rich on tech dot tv.
And if you have forgot any of the other ones,
you can get all five of the websites that you should.
You should check out. Rich Is that a good idea?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Six for the price of five. I love it, Larry,
We're reeling and dealing here.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Rich to Viro. Rich on Tech has heard Sunday nights
from eight to eleven on wo r rich on Tech
on Instagram if you want to contact him, Thanks a lot,
Rich
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