June 3, 2025 • 6 mins
Rich Lowry talks with Mendte in the Morning about the terror attack in Boulder, CO and the way it has been covered in the media.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now let's bring in Rich Lowry. Rich Lowry is editor
in chief of the National Review. And Rich, we were
just talking a moment ago about the attacks in Boulder, Colorado,
and I know you wrote about this, but it was
incredible the gymnastics that the semantic gymnastics that writers across
(00:22):
the country or on television we were making to not
say the words anti Semitism or not to say that
he was here illegally.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, kind of poor. Part of the course. We've seen
these sort of attacks in Europe a lot with terrorists
who use cars, you know, drives through Christmas fairs and
that kind of thing, and the headlines are usually car drives,
you know, car attacks Christmas doers, or car you know,
rampages out of control and then never focusing on the driver.
(00:53):
And same thing here. This is attack against Jews by
an illegal immigrant and those are highly relevant, the most
highly relevant facts about it. And he had a media
because that's politically inconvenient, resorting to euphemism to try to
avoid saying that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And what's amazing is when they interviewed I don't want
to say his name, but when they interviewed the guy
who who did this, who set people on fire at
a rally that happened every week, by the way, a
run that happened every week in to free the hostages
by Jimas he said, yes, you know, he hated Jews
(01:31):
and he was going to do this. He planned this
for a year. He would have done it again. And
so you know, how do you ignore that now? You can't,
You can't, you can't possibly ignore it now.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, amazingly forthright as clearly an active terrorism, hideous act
of terrorism. This is this is a peaceful march or
walk or jog. Right, They're not getting anyone in anyone's
faces or banging drums or breaking the laws, and this
guy just burns people. Hideous. It's just awful and unspeakable.
(02:03):
But unfortunately it is now a discernible trend. Right, less
than two weeks ago, we had the assassination of those
beautiful young people who worked at the Israeli embassy in Washington,
d C. And unfortunately there's probably more where this came from.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right, and they tried to set Josh Shapiro's house on fire,
the governor of Pennsylvania, while his family was there. But
I think that the media has completely ignored this. I
do think that there is an undercurrent of anti Semitism
in all of these Free Palestine rallies and everything that's
(02:36):
been happening in the college campuses, and that's why some
of the Jewish students were afraid to go outside Rich.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, so it would have helped. I M not to
say it would have stopped it, but it would have
helped if the elite universities wouldn't have let this run
out of control in the first place. And as soon
as students started illegal encampments and harassment of Jewish students,
if it had been cracked down on upon immediately, and
maybe you wouldn't have had this this national wave of
protests we saw a year ago or so or whatever
(03:04):
it was that kind of unleashed this this demon But
globalize the Intifada. The Infada is a terrorist act against
Jews in the Middle East. So if you're going to
globalize it, what are you going to do? I mean,
this guy globalized into into Fata is exactly what he
what he did. And you know, there are a lot
(03:25):
of nasty countries around the world. Israel isn't one of them.
One and two, why do you focus just on on Israel?
Right Because it's a Jewish state. They hate Jews.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, no, I completely agree with you. I see you
had a story on don't Fear AI. We just had
a story earlier in the show where they tried to
shut down AI and AI went and tried to blackmail
the person that was shutting it down. And you're telling
me not to fear it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, that one is a little. Worries so little, But
I have to say it'll probably be. You know, we
can't predict exactly how that's going to play out. It's
probably going to be like other waves of technology, it
does destroy jobs, but it also creates other jobs. I mean,
that's been the history of this or we'd all be
unemployed right now because none of us are subsistence farmers,
(04:18):
which is the way our ancestors all made their living
for millennia. So it'll also probably augment a lot of
work rather than replacing it. But we'll see. You know,
despite this fear of machines and robots taking over, we
have low productivity in this low productivity growth in this country,
and if we have higher productivity growth, that makes a
(04:40):
lot of problems look a lot easier, whether it's a
federal budget deficit, or whether it's retiring boomers we're having
trouble paying for so I welcome it, but it doesn't
mean they're not going to be downsides, Like you know,
if it takes over the world and we can't do it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
All, it's going to give me some home.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Very early on, rich and I told this story earlier.
There was a AI. There was an ephesist that had
been railing against AI for a long time, and he said,
very early on, in AI, they asked it to make
a million dollars in a week, and it did, but
it lied. And he said, we never programmed it to lie.
It learned that on its own. That doesn't scare you
(05:23):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I think most of these things, like they're scraping
the Internet and learning through things that were in effect,
even if we're not directly programming in there, they're they're
learning from us. It's learning the lion cheat. That's because
we lion cheat robots.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That's not scary enough that the fact that they are
going to be as despicable as we can be.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's the worst thing you can say about it, right,
you could have human morals.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Hey, real quick, this uh this governor's race there is
in New Jersey. The voting started today. I don't know
what's happening in Virginia if they have early voting right now.
But how important are these two elections and is specifically
the one in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I mean, it's better to win them than to
lose them. But it's going to be just the history
is when the party out of power wins these these
off year elections. I mean, it happens in Virginia just
like clockwork. And you know in New Jersey is tough too,
so it'd be great Republicans could pull one or both
of these out. But I'm a little skeptical.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well, the Republicans have a really good candidate this year,
somebody that almost won the last time. So we'll see.
I mean, I hate that you said that, but we'll see.
Editor in chief of the National Review.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
We should run run a robot. Yeah yeah, really unethical,
uh cynical robot Maybe could could pull it out for us, and.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And they can do it, we found out. Thanks a lot,
Rich
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Thanks a lot
Now let's bring in Rich Lowry. Rich Lowry is editor
in chief of the National Review. And Rich, we were
just talking a moment ago about the attacks in Boulder, Colorado,
and I know you wrote about this, but it was
incredible the gymnastics that the semantic gymnastics that writers across
(00:22):
the country or on television we were making to not
say the words anti Semitism or not to say that
he was here illegally.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, kind of poor. Part of the course. We've seen
these sort of attacks in Europe a lot with terrorists
who use cars, you know, drives through Christmas fairs and
that kind of thing, and the headlines are usually car drives,
you know, car attacks Christmas doers, or car you know,
rampages out of control and then never focusing on the driver.
(00:53):
And same thing here. This is attack against Jews by
an illegal immigrant and those are highly relevant, the most
highly relevant facts about it. And he had a media
because that's politically inconvenient, resorting to euphemism to try to
avoid saying that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And what's amazing is when they interviewed I don't want
to say his name, but when they interviewed the guy
who who did this, who set people on fire at
a rally that happened every week, by the way, a
run that happened every week in to free the hostages
by Jimas he said, yes, you know, he hated Jews
(01:31):
and he was going to do this. He planned this
for a year. He would have done it again. And
so you know, how do you ignore that now? You can't,
You can't, you can't possibly ignore it now.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, amazingly forthright as clearly an active terrorism, hideous act
of terrorism. This is this is a peaceful march or
walk or jog. Right, They're not getting anyone in anyone's
faces or banging drums or breaking the laws, and this
guy just burns people. Hideous. It's just awful and unspeakable.
(02:03):
But unfortunately it is now a discernible trend. Right, less
than two weeks ago, we had the assassination of those
beautiful young people who worked at the Israeli embassy in Washington,
d C. And unfortunately there's probably more where this came from.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right, and they tried to set Josh Shapiro's house on fire,
the governor of Pennsylvania, while his family was there. But
I think that the media has completely ignored this. I
do think that there is an undercurrent of anti Semitism
in all of these Free Palestine rallies and everything that's
(02:36):
been happening in the college campuses, and that's why some
of the Jewish students were afraid to go outside Rich.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, so it would have helped. I M not to
say it would have stopped it, but it would have
helped if the elite universities wouldn't have let this run
out of control in the first place. And as soon
as students started illegal encampments and harassment of Jewish students,
if it had been cracked down on upon immediately, and
maybe you wouldn't have had this this national wave of
protests we saw a year ago or so or whatever
(03:04):
it was that kind of unleashed this this demon But
globalize the Intifada. The Infada is a terrorist act against
Jews in the Middle East. So if you're going to
globalize it, what are you going to do? I mean,
this guy globalized into into Fata is exactly what he
what he did. And you know, there are a lot
(03:25):
of nasty countries around the world. Israel isn't one of them.
One and two, why do you focus just on on Israel?
Right Because it's a Jewish state. They hate Jews.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, no, I completely agree with you. I see you
had a story on don't Fear AI. We just had
a story earlier in the show where they tried to
shut down AI and AI went and tried to blackmail
the person that was shutting it down. And you're telling
me not to fear it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, that one is a little. Worries so little, But
I have to say it'll probably be. You know, we
can't predict exactly how that's going to play out. It's
probably going to be like other waves of technology, it
does destroy jobs, but it also creates other jobs. I mean,
that's been the history of this or we'd all be
unemployed right now because none of us are subsistence farmers,
(04:18):
which is the way our ancestors all made their living
for millennia. So it'll also probably augment a lot of
work rather than replacing it. But we'll see. You know,
despite this fear of machines and robots taking over, we
have low productivity in this low productivity growth in this country,
and if we have higher productivity growth, that makes a
(04:40):
lot of problems look a lot easier, whether it's a
federal budget deficit, or whether it's retiring boomers we're having
trouble paying for so I welcome it, but it doesn't
mean they're not going to be downsides, Like you know,
if it takes over the world and we can't do it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
All, it's going to give me some home.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Very early on, rich and I told this story earlier.
There was a AI. There was an ephesist that had
been railing against AI for a long time, and he said,
very early on, in AI, they asked it to make
a million dollars in a week, and it did, but
it lied. And he said, we never programmed it to lie.
It learned that on its own. That doesn't scare you
(05:23):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I think most of these things, like they're scraping
the Internet and learning through things that were in effect,
even if we're not directly programming in there, they're they're
learning from us. It's learning the lion cheat. That's because
we lion cheat robots.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That's not scary enough that the fact that they are
going to be as despicable as we can be.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's the worst thing you can say about it, right,
you could have human morals.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Hey, real quick, this uh this governor's race there is
in New Jersey. The voting started today. I don't know
what's happening in Virginia if they have early voting right now.
But how important are these two elections and is specifically
the one in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I mean, it's better to win them than to
lose them. But it's going to be just the history
is when the party out of power wins these these
off year elections. I mean, it happens in Virginia just
like clockwork. And you know in New Jersey is tough too,
so it'd be great Republicans could pull one or both
of these out. But I'm a little skeptical.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well, the Republicans have a really good candidate this year,
somebody that almost won the last time. So we'll see.
I mean, I hate that you said that, but we'll see.
Editor in chief of the National Review.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
We should run run a robot. Yeah yeah, really unethical,
uh cynical robot Maybe could could pull it out for us, and.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And they can do it, we found out. Thanks a lot,
Rich
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Thanks a lot
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