August 20, 2025 • 7 mins
Sean joins Mendte in the Morning to discuss how much of an embarrassment it is watching the left-wing media report on the Russia-Ukraine war. The progressive media doesn't want to see anything positive come out of the peace talks. Sean sees a different landscape regarding how the media is perceiving Trump 2.0 now.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, one of the best things about the Trump administration
so far, and this is in a long list of accomplishments,
is the way he exposed the media as being as
biased as we thought they were. This is the same
media that covered for the atrocities, the awfulness, the failures
of the Biden administration, covered for that, and now they
(00:23):
are attacking success, success, success, success, and nobody knows that
better than Shawn Spicer, Trump's first press secretary. He is
host of The Sewn Spicer Show podcast. You can find
it on the iHeartRadio app and YouTube. Sean, I would
love to hear what you have to say about the
media coverage so far, because it's been accomplishment after accomplishment
(00:46):
after accomplishment. But if you listen to the legacy media,
it's been failure after failure after failure. And luckily the
people can see right through this.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I agree with you, Larry. I mean, that's the thing
that's funny. And I had Katie McFarlane on my show
last night. She's the former Jeopandy national security advisor. I
asked her a similar question and she brought that up.
And it's funny because when I get asked about the
difference between Trump one and Trump two. I talk about
the people and the policies and kind of the process
(01:20):
from things that are happening. But you're right. And the
difference though and the press is this, when you look
out from where I stood at the podium in the
first term versus where Caroline looks now, there are a
lot more And I don't want to say friendly faces
because that's not the point, but I would say non
adversarial is probably the best. And that's the difference is
(01:43):
that the last eight years we have really seen the
growth shows like mine, you know, voices like you who
have expanded their reach, and that's important. When I left
the White House, just to give you an example, I
did my first podcast with a woman named Katie Pavlich
and we had so Ignois studio, we had a book
time and it was I mean, it was arduous just
(02:04):
in terms of like because it was just that's how
it was courtedd I now have a home studio in
my house here in Virginia, and I can do all
sorts of it and it's not I mean, like, the
point is it's very very reasonable, whereas before it took
a lot more. And that's given rise to a lot
of independent medias and people who are now able to
(02:26):
go to the White House. Jack Pasiebic sat in the
new media seat yesterday. He's the editor of Human Events,
He's all over social media. He's gonna be on my
show tonight. But the point is they I didn't I mean,
I had skype questions. I would invite talk show hosts
and local media folks to join the White House briefing.
But there are a whole new group of folks, and
(02:46):
they're making the other folks less relevant. And that's the
real key to this. The CNNs and the New York
Times don't have the institutional power and the audience and
the subscribers that they used to. And that's where I
think there's a big difference between Trump one and Trump
two is that they sort of I wouldn't say, drowned
out the voices, but if you go look, I was
(03:09):
just literally looking on at the list of Apple Top
podcast before we joined. Look at look at it's dominated
Ben Shapiro, Meghan Kelly, Charlie Kirk, Candice Owens, Ben Shapiro,
the Morning Meeting that I'm part of every day from
nine at nine am. Like it, We're we're in the
top ten and we don't have a huge marketing budget
(03:30):
at all, Honey, we have none. And but the point
is that we can get our voices out now and
give people a place to go that's not just the
New York Times and the Washington Post and Politico. And
I think that, to me is really what's changed in
the last eight years is that these adversarial voices at
CNN and you know, NBC, Washington Post, they don't have
(03:55):
the dominance in the reach that they did have. They're
still who they are. And to your point, like I
watched some of the cupboards sometimes and I'm like, do
you guys like root for failure? Is that your thing?
Like I don't. It blows my mind how many things
President Trump has gotten done. He just passed the two
hundred day mark, and these guys like have had nothing
(04:15):
nice to say about the guy at all. It's like,
and I just find that kind of pathetic. It's like,
like most presidents hope for a signature accomplishment in their
first term. Think about what Trump's gone again, whether or not,
just objectively, whether or not, whether you like him or not,
tax cuts, the Big Beautiful Bill, tariffs and trade, the
borders secure. We're addressing multiple wars that you know had
(04:40):
are that the fire has been put out because of
President Trump's intervention. Like so, it's not one thing, Larry,
it's like countless things. The biggest obstacle, and I mean
this sincerely that the Trump administration is going to have
is how to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This well and also how to deal with the media
that's going to against them all the time. But I
but you're right, they are losing power as they were
trying to make him less powerful. They only did it
to themselves. And I don't think they yeah, exactly, And
shows like yours and and shows like you know, Joe Rogan,
(05:16):
who's suddenly become a conservative, and and some other people
like Megan Kelly, as you mentioned Ben Shapiro. They're gaining
so many listeners and viewers. It has been incredible the
shift in the media. But I don't think they can
help it. I don't think they're purposely they're purposely biased.
They are just filled with the same people. They live
(05:37):
in a bubble. They believe they're correct. It's the hiring practices,
not what you see on air. It's the people behind
the scenes that are the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Shown yes. So you know what the fun thing about
your analysis right now is one of the things. I mean,
I talk about what I think is different between Trump
one and Trump two, and you put your finger on
something just now. This is I'm going to use and
Kamala Harris phrase for you, Larry, it's the root pause.
And so when we looked at higher education, you saw
(06:08):
what Linda McMahon did at the Department of Education, which
was brilliant. It wasn't just about Charter or Columbia or Brown,
right that those are problems, but the bigger issue that
Linda identified was it was the accreditation. They were bowing
to these accreditation boards that said, well, you're a good school,
that these courses are fantastic, but you're not woken off.
(06:29):
You need more DEI and and so I think what
your your point is the reporters, Yeah, they're biased, and
it's not but when you go to the hiring practices,
to the root cause of why, that's the answer. And
I think that that's something that we're slowly getting to
understand that it's not just about uh, the reporters themselves
(06:54):
and being horrible if if you have I mean, I
literally watched a CNN program over the weekend that was on,
and it was just horrendous. And I thought to myself, like,
these guys have seen the movie, if you will, for
the last eight years of Trump, and yet they launched
a show on Saturdays. I get it's Saturday, so it's
(07:14):
not that big of a deal. It's literally anti Trump
and the clips. The only attention that CNN ever gets
these days is when Scott Jennings, the Republican funded said
something brilliant about Trump, and that's the only time anyone
pays attention.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're absolutely right, the one Republican is mocking them. Yeah,
you're absolutely right. We've had Scott on the show several times. Look,
we got to get you back real fast, Shawan. We
want to have this conversation even more because it's important.
Sean Spicer, Trump's first press secretary, host of The Sewn
Spicer Show podcast. You can find it on the iHeartRadio
app and YouTube. A lot of people, as he said,
(07:50):
are going there now because they want the facts, and
so you should join them. Thanks so much, Sean
Now, one of the best things about the Trump administration
so far, and this is in a long list of accomplishments,
is the way he exposed the media as being as
biased as we thought they were. This is the same
media that covered for the atrocities, the awfulness, the failures
of the Biden administration, covered for that, and now they
(00:23):
are attacking success, success, success, success, and nobody knows that
better than Shawn Spicer, Trump's first press secretary. He is
host of The Sewn Spicer Show podcast. You can find
it on the iHeartRadio app and YouTube. Sean, I would
love to hear what you have to say about the
media coverage so far, because it's been accomplishment after accomplishment
(00:46):
after accomplishment. But if you listen to the legacy media,
it's been failure after failure after failure. And luckily the
people can see right through this.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I agree with you, Larry. I mean, that's the thing
that's funny. And I had Katie McFarlane on my show
last night. She's the former Jeopandy national security advisor. I
asked her a similar question and she brought that up.
And it's funny because when I get asked about the
difference between Trump one and Trump two. I talk about
the people and the policies and kind of the process
(01:20):
from things that are happening. But you're right. And the
difference though and the press is this, when you look
out from where I stood at the podium in the
first term versus where Caroline looks now, there are a
lot more And I don't want to say friendly faces
because that's not the point, but I would say non
adversarial is probably the best. And that's the difference is
(01:43):
that the last eight years we have really seen the
growth shows like mine, you know, voices like you who
have expanded their reach, and that's important. When I left
the White House, just to give you an example, I
did my first podcast with a woman named Katie Pavlich
and we had so Ignois studio, we had a book
time and it was I mean, it was arduous just
(02:04):
in terms of like because it was just that's how
it was courtedd I now have a home studio in
my house here in Virginia, and I can do all
sorts of it and it's not I mean, like, the
point is it's very very reasonable, whereas before it took
a lot more. And that's given rise to a lot
of independent medias and people who are now able to
(02:26):
go to the White House. Jack Pasiebic sat in the
new media seat yesterday. He's the editor of Human Events,
He's all over social media. He's gonna be on my
show tonight. But the point is they I didn't I mean,
I had skype questions. I would invite talk show hosts
and local media folks to join the White House briefing.
But there are a whole new group of folks, and
(02:46):
they're making the other folks less relevant. And that's the
real key to this. The CNNs and the New York
Times don't have the institutional power and the audience and
the subscribers that they used to. And that's where I
think there's a big difference between Trump one and Trump
two is that they sort of I wouldn't say, drowned
out the voices, but if you go look, I was
(03:09):
just literally looking on at the list of Apple Top
podcast before we joined. Look at look at it's dominated
Ben Shapiro, Meghan Kelly, Charlie Kirk, Candice Owens, Ben Shapiro,
the Morning Meeting that I'm part of every day from
nine at nine am. Like it, We're we're in the
top ten and we don't have a huge marketing budget
(03:30):
at all, Honey, we have none. And but the point
is that we can get our voices out now and
give people a place to go that's not just the
New York Times and the Washington Post and Politico. And
I think that, to me is really what's changed in
the last eight years is that these adversarial voices at
CNN and you know, NBC, Washington Post, they don't have
(03:55):
the dominance in the reach that they did have. They're
still who they are. And to your point, like I
watched some of the cupboards sometimes and I'm like, do
you guys like root for failure? Is that your thing?
Like I don't. It blows my mind how many things
President Trump has gotten done. He just passed the two
hundred day mark, and these guys like have had nothing
(04:15):
nice to say about the guy at all. It's like,
and I just find that kind of pathetic. It's like,
like most presidents hope for a signature accomplishment in their
first term. Think about what Trump's gone again, whether or not,
just objectively, whether or not, whether you like him or not,
tax cuts, the Big Beautiful Bill, tariffs and trade, the
borders secure. We're addressing multiple wars that you know had
(04:40):
are that the fire has been put out because of
President Trump's intervention. Like so, it's not one thing, Larry,
it's like countless things. The biggest obstacle, and I mean
this sincerely that the Trump administration is going to have
is how to continue.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This well and also how to deal with the media
that's going to against them all the time. But I
but you're right, they are losing power as they were
trying to make him less powerful. They only did it
to themselves. And I don't think they yeah, exactly, And
shows like yours and and shows like you know, Joe Rogan,
(05:16):
who's suddenly become a conservative, and and some other people
like Megan Kelly, as you mentioned Ben Shapiro. They're gaining
so many listeners and viewers. It has been incredible the
shift in the media. But I don't think they can
help it. I don't think they're purposely they're purposely biased.
They are just filled with the same people. They live
(05:37):
in a bubble. They believe they're correct. It's the hiring practices,
not what you see on air. It's the people behind
the scenes that are the problem.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Shown yes. So you know what the fun thing about
your analysis right now is one of the things. I mean,
I talk about what I think is different between Trump
one and Trump two, and you put your finger on
something just now. This is I'm going to use and
Kamala Harris phrase for you, Larry, it's the root pause.
And so when we looked at higher education, you saw
(06:08):
what Linda McMahon did at the Department of Education, which
was brilliant. It wasn't just about Charter or Columbia or Brown,
right that those are problems, but the bigger issue that
Linda identified was it was the accreditation. They were bowing
to these accreditation boards that said, well, you're a good school,
that these courses are fantastic, but you're not woken off.
(06:29):
You need more DEI and and so I think what
your your point is the reporters, Yeah, they're biased, and
it's not but when you go to the hiring practices,
to the root cause of why, that's the answer. And
I think that that's something that we're slowly getting to
understand that it's not just about uh, the reporters themselves
(06:54):
and being horrible if if you have I mean, I
literally watched a CNN program over the weekend that was on,
and it was just horrendous. And I thought to myself, like,
these guys have seen the movie, if you will, for
the last eight years of Trump, and yet they launched
a show on Saturdays. I get it's Saturday, so it's
(07:14):
not that big of a deal. It's literally anti Trump
and the clips. The only attention that CNN ever gets
these days is when Scott Jennings, the Republican funded said
something brilliant about Trump, and that's the only time anyone
pays attention.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're absolutely right, the one Republican is mocking them. Yeah,
you're absolutely right. We've had Scott on the show several times. Look,
we got to get you back real fast, Shawan. We
want to have this conversation even more because it's important.
Sean Spicer, Trump's first press secretary, host of The Sewn
Spicer Show podcast. You can find it on the iHeartRadio
app and YouTube. A lot of people, as he said,
(07:50):
are going there now because they want the facts, and
so you should join them. Thanks so much, Sean
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