September 11, 2025 • 45 mins
On this episode of the Strawberry And Lizette Mexican / Ginger Podcast, we talked about why Tupac should not have been shot, faking out Lyft drivers, September 11th memories, and more! (18+)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On episode seventy five of the Mexican Ginger Podcast, we
talked about why Tupac shouldn't have been shot, faking out
my lift driver, some September eleventh memories, and why you
should ever open the door for strangers. On top of that,
we called Lysette's friend Gay Matt and wished him a
happy birthday. All coming up next, it's podcast time.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's the Strawberry and Lisette Mexican Ginger Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Not suitable for a younger audience.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, thanks for being here with the podcast and
for streaming or watching the YouTube channel. You can follow
us on Instagram at Strawberry and Lysette. G. You'm gonna
put you in a bad mood right off the bat. Yes,
all right, saw this TikTok and I'm like, oh god,
this dude is right. All right, listen to this.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I just realized we're two months out from Halloween and
the worst person you know is going to dress up
as an Ice agent and then their friend is going
to dress up as an illegal immigrant and it's going
to be the stupidest fucking thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I like, you know what, He's.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right, I guarantee you Yeah, we're going to see.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely you know who Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Because the thing
with Halloween is you kind of take what someone.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Might even dress up as that boy that just got shot.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh yeah, uh Kirk Yeah, Chris yeah, Chris kirkra you take,
you kind of take what you lean into whatever is
like trending, trending in pop culture, and with so many
ice raids and deportation raids and like ices in the
news so much right now that yeah, someone's gonna think
it's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Mm hmm, it's gonna be. They're probably gonna be some
college kids, mm hmm. You know, I don't put anything
past anyone ever since well not not ever since any
time in particular, but seeing what's been done in the past,
there's been like George Floyd costumes.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know, I walked that line where I kind of
feel like Halloween should have a no holds barred vibe
to it, like oh, you're you're your costume is triggering
to me or it's insulting. Like I think, like in
the spirit of Halloween, it should be a no holds
barred except I find certain things I'm like, oh, that
(02:09):
probably is a cross the line, like the George Floyd,
it's cross the line.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
It's one thing when it's funny, it's another thing when, like,
you know what the fuck you're doing, Like dressing up
as Britney Spears with knives funny, sure, dressing up as
fucking George Floyd and a white cop standing on his
neck like, yeah, is that supposed to be fucking funny?
Because it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, So what are you folding over there? OREGONI oh,
you brought it back funny?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You want to do it?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
What are those what are those things called the fortune tellers?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The fortune toes where you folded up in the paper.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I forgot how to make it, so I just had
to look at Google directions. Okay, so shout out to
the Boys and Girls Club of Greater Westfield, Nice wherever
that is, for the step by step on making a
little fortune teller. Okay, okay, pick a color. Don't forget
what you were gonna say.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, but you're gonna give me a list of colors.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Right, blue, red, purple, or rainbow.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Gotta go blue, b l you e uh huh?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Pick a number seven, eight, four or three.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Mmm, I'm gonna go three.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You have titties, that's a fortunate.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Give me.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'm gonna do your fortune. But you already know.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Them, right, yeah, but I don't know which one.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Is with Okay, give you give it, give give, give
you titties. You're so stupid. Oh I forgot Okay, give
me a give me color rainbow, purple, blue, a red,
can't be blue? Already pick blue red, r E D M.
Tick a number eight, three, four, seven, it can't be
three's already picked three.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Seven.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Now don't I do like one of the seven?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Now now you open it open what the flap for
the number seven?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
There is no number seven. They're different, but there's different numbers.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Now oh shit, okay, yeah you're right, open number seven.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And then now you go one of the seven. And
then now you say pick a number and then I
open the flap. So now you have the number one, two,
six or five one. So yeah, you gave me titties
way too early. Gay, Okay, what are their fortunes? Pretty
princess and smell like bussy? Right time? Well spent.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
These are all supposed to be for you.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So apparently.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's what I was making while uh, now you can't
throw this away at the station.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, you can't work. Okay, Yeah, I got something really cool.
There's this dude. I follow this dude I on TikTok.
He's this. He's a sports writer that did this like
several years of deep diving into Tupac. And I'm a
huge Tupac fan. And he's writing like the quintessential book
on Tupac's called Only God Can Judge Me. This is
(05:14):
not a plug. I'm just telling you, like where I
got this video from. So anyway, on September ninth, which
was four days ago. From here, September September ninth, sorry,
September seventh. September seventh, which is like four days ago.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
September seventh was the twenty ninth anniversary of the night
Tupac got shot. Okay, okay, so this video popped up
on my for you page. Wait, September seventh was the
night he got shot.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He was twenty ninth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, are you sure?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What year he got shot?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I want to say it was ninety ninety seven, ninety.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Him getting shot twenty nine years ago and nine to
eleven happening twenty four years ago. Sounds like it's off.
Was it that close?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Hold on what I used to know? All this?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
What year I was a baby when he got shot Chupac?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, he died in ninety six, So he got shot
in ninety six. Is the math mathing or.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Laughing five years apart?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Apparently?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Doesn't that sound like.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Sounds weird?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, that sounds weird, dude.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I remember. So before I get this list, So I
was working, was this it wild? This was a wild?
So I was working in San Francisco. Big Vaughn was
on the radio. It was like, what's been a Saturday morning,
Saturday or Sunday morning. It's walking down this long hallway
to get to the studio because I guess I was
on after Vaughn or something like that. It was in
the morning. Vaughn was on the phone with Sway and
(06:51):
they were on speakerphone, and I was like walking down
the hall. For whatever reason, Vaughn had the studio open,
like if anybody's ever been in radio station or studio,
like you leave all the doors closed like so like,
NOI he doesn't pop in. But it was like early
in the morning. Vaughan didn't care. Door was open, and
I was listening to him and Sway talk And this
was just after Tupac got shot. Don't forget Tupac got
shot relatively recently before that, also when he was in
(07:13):
the Quad City studios. He got shot, he bounced back,
he went to court the very next day, and so
I remember them hearing I remember hearing them talk like, yo,
he got shot again. He after he survives this one,
he's gonna be like, oh Jesus, you guys can't take
me out, like they were saying, like what Pak is
gonna do after he recovers from this Las Vegas shooting.
I remember that, and then I remember, Man, it must
(07:38):
have been a day or two later that Tupac died,
and I'm like, oh my god, he actually died, Like
this doesn't happen in hip hop, This doesn't happen in music,
like he died. And I remember, I think he died
in the afternoons. I remember JV from the Doghouse at
the time. JV was in the studio with I believe
it was Saint John the Afternoon Show, and he just
(07:58):
like because the Bay Area loves to I mean, we
love him, so it's like we lost a piece of ourselves.
And at that time, it was. It was you were
on the West Coast versus East Coast bandwagon, Like you
were a part of that if you were on the
West Coast, if you were in the Bay area, you
felt that sure. Looking back on it now, it was lame.
We shouldn't have been, like we shouldn't have dug too
(08:20):
deep into that whole West Coast East Coast rivalry. But
it was a thing, and we had our alliances. So anyway,
they said, I remember being on the road driving to work,
listening to JV and Saint John like break the news
and say, hey, it happened, and JV did this thing
like the bayry loves Tupac, Like this is senseless, Like
we want to bring everybody together, and like we're all
(08:40):
mourning together. Like everybody, just turn your lights on, drive
around all weekend, drive around all day with your headlights on,
you know, show your love female for Tupac and da
da dah, and like this is senseless violence. And I
remember being on the freeway. I was on two eighty
and I just see blink the link binkla bla. Think
all these cars around me started turning their headlights on
because they were listening to the same show I was.
(09:02):
They were still listen.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
They were listening to.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And I remember like driving to work and he was
in the afternoon. Everybody's got their headlights on, and I go,
that's powerful, and so I go to feel like Saint JV.
I watched everybody turn their headlights on when you were saying, like,
turn your headlights on all weekend, and so that was
like the vibe. We kept mentioning that, like, hey, all weekend,
turn your headlights on. But anyway, that's all that to say.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
If we did that here, nobody would care all that
to say, we would know we can see the car.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah right, we're looking them free right now.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We should have did it for our nine to eleven break.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
This author, the sports writer, is now author of the
book Only God can Judge Me. He goes, Tupac should
not have been at that fight, that Mike Tyson fight
that night. He shouldn't have been in Vegas. He shouldn't
have been shot. As a matter of fact, here are
three reasons why Tupac shouldn't have been there that night.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Number one, that Mike Tyson in Bruce Selden fight that
Tupac was in Vegas. Four September seventh. The original fight
was supposed to be July thirteenth, ninety six. The original
fight was supposed to be in July. I guess Mike
Tyson wasn't ready. His camp came up with some excuse
(10:16):
to delay the fight from July all the way back
till September.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
But the same people also would have been there at
that fight, right, So what it just happened? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean, if you believe the story that Tupac saw
Orlando Anderson in the lobby of the MGM, started a
fight with him, Orlando's like, I can't go back to
the hood and had have people think, like a rapper
beat me up. I need revenge, I'm shooting him. So
if you believe, if that's what really happened, then who knows.
Just because the fight would have been in July doesn't
(10:50):
mean that Pac and Orlando Anderson would have been in
the same hotel lobby, you know. I mean, like, who's
to say, Like if Lazette, if we're supposed to be
somewhere one day and it gets postponed four month, that
we're going to walk past the same people at the
same time. So Mike Tyson's fight being delayed was one reason.
Second reason that he shouldn't have been there that night.
(11:10):
Tanya Heart was an MTV VJ good friends with Tupac,
invited Tupac to one of her churches, one of her
church services, and PAC's like, yeah, I'll go when she
goes September seventh, you know, come with me to church this,
you know, September seventh day. All right, cool, cook, Well
I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. So
if Pac would have gone to church with Tanya Heart
from MTV like he said he would have, he wouldn't
(11:33):
have been in Vegas. He wouldn't have seen Orlando. Wow,
So that's number two, number three. The night before the fight,
September sixth, nineteen ninety six, Tupac got a call from Atlanta.
His cousin was using crack. Well documented, it's not a secret.
Tupac's cousin pawned Tupac's prize possession, this machine gun, this
(11:56):
Mac eleven. So the wife Tupuk's cousin called, hey, your
your cousin smoking crack again. He sold your machine gun
for money. He pawned off your Mac eleven. He used
the money for drugs. You gotta help him. Pak was furious.
It was like his prize possession. He's like, you tell
your husband, I'm flying out to Atlanta and I'm gonna
(12:17):
cut off his hand. He called Delta Airlines, booked a flight,
bought tickets to go the next morning to Atlanta. Didn't
get on that flight. So three. I'm sure there are
other reasons, but those are three major reasons that he
chose the fork in the road and he chose to
(12:39):
go to Vegas to go to the fight.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Now, let's talk about the fact that he double booked himself,
Like he didn't even talk about anybody in keeping his promises.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I know, right, Like a good point. Good point.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I'm supposed to go to church with you, but I
just told these people and going to Atlanta. Yeah, And
I just told these people and going to Atlanta, but
I'm supposed to go to church with you. Yeah, Like
and I'm in yeah, I'm in the oh.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But yeah. So I can't wait for this dude who
spoke to come out. But that that video popped up
on my for you page on the anniversary of Pox shooting,
and I'm like, wow, I got to bring that up
on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I can't wait to see Kanye West documentary when he's
off his mads. That's gonna be crazy. When does that
drop September sixteenth?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay, oh wow, that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Tell me if I'm a dick for this. So, yes,
in our building, our building is in the middle of
two parking lots. Right, you walk out the front door,
there's a parking lot. You walk out the back door,
there's a parking lot. So when I call a lift
or an uber, I say, here's the address. Sometimes the
GPS puts them in the back of the building, and
(13:47):
so I walk out the front. I see the GPS
in the back. I'm like, ugh, So I gotta walk
through the building. I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Doesn't take it long, by the way, like final it's down.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I gotta walk back into the building, all the way
down the other end of the hall, out the door,
now into the back parking lot. And I always do
that because I don't care or you know, if I
see they're still driving, I'll call them real quick. Hey,
your GPS is putting you in the back. Come up
to the front for whatever reason. Just the other day,
and so that's why who cares? So the other day,
(14:17):
dropped a pin. Hey uber, actually lift, hey lift, pick
me up? Lifts? So hey, Strawberty your lifts here? Cool,
go downstairs. I walk out the front, don't see the lift.
I look on the GPS. Ah, the guy's in the back.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You don't ever put like a note like come to
the front in the roundabout with the fountain or something.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, what I was gonna do. I was gonna say
that I had nobody here is. I put the address
of the sandwich shop that's right across the sea. Yeah,
so I have them picked me up from the quote
unquote sandwich shop. So anyway, I see the guys in
the back. I'm like, I've been here a long time today,
I'm kind of tired. So I called him and I go, hey, man,
you know GPS dropped in the back. Can you pick
(14:56):
me up in the front. It's like, can't you walk
over here? I'm like, bro, and I go, I would,
but I have a bad leg. Man, I got a
knee injury. Can't walk. I don't know where this came from.
I can't. You know, it's walking's tough. He goes, all right,
I'll be right there. I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
But now I'm like, did you limp to his car?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So the guy pulls up.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It was the only thing I can think of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It was the only reason I could be like, I'm
a well abled, athletic, healthy individual. Sure I could walk
through the building over to where you are, but I'm
paying for this service. Come pick me up. Yeah, So,
without saying, hey, I'm paying you, come pick me up,
I go the scaredy cat route, the wimp option. I go, yeah,
I got a bad leg, bro, he got to pick
(15:42):
me up. So he pulls up. I limp over to
his car. Subtle limp, but sure I wanted him to
know that I have a limp. And then I go,
maybe he didn't see that. So when I sit down,
I go I kind of played it off. So he
drives me home and I go, oh damn, I gotta
do it again. So I get out of the car
(16:02):
and then normally he would drive away, he stays there
on his phone. So now I got a limp from
his car to my front porch, which, as you know,
has some stairs. So I have to limp up the
stairs until I get my door unlocked. He's still there.
I have to limp into my house all because I
didn't want to walk through the building to where his
(16:25):
GPS was.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Now, you gotta stick to your life.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I got to stick to it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
No, no, I don't think you're a dick.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Good, thank you. I felt like such a dick doing
it because he was also an older guy. I don't
just I don't know. Watch didn't hurt nobody, I know,
but I could have been like, hey man, look i'm
paying you to pick me up. Come pick me up.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
But no, gess that's being a dick.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay, all right, good, I feel better about myself though
still bad about myself, but better now.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, just did a fake limp. I hear pimping with
the limping.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I don't think it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Good, I got two more things.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
What do you got?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You got anything?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
No, but I got a hold of They texted me back.
If you want to call.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Uh, yeah, we can put at the end because I'm
I'm gonna I'm on a roll right now. So yeah,
definitely is he does he have a time limit?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
No, he was sleeping.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Okay, I'm gonna play you one thing. Then sometimes we
don't get to see uh like real macin in action.
We don't get to see like real game from just
a just like a Romeo, just a real player out
there on the streets. Luckily, with the ring cam, we
can see it when it happens in ring life. In
real life. I'm gonna play a ring cam footage. You
(17:42):
tell me how smooth this guy is.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The wife answers the door, Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
No, So basically I just say if you like that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I didn't hear anything he said.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Stupid dog. He goes, hey, is your husband home right now?
She goes no. He's like, all right, well, basically just
want to know if you want fuck or not? You
know who? Let me let me paint the picture. You
know who Ralph Barbosa is?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Do I you do the comedian?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Let me look him up.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
This guy looks like he's Ralph Barbosa's cousin. Skinny, he's
got a starter mustache on, He's got like.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
A oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So picture Ralph Barbosa's cousin.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
This guy just went to some random house or was he?
And I heard bags? Was he like a delivery driver?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Just a random house? And then the ring camera catches
him like walking down the stairs, and like running away?
Is your at home? Just want to know if you
want fuck him?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Running away makes it seem like he was out for rape.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah right, Like and this is broad daylight, by the way,
this is the middle of the day.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, that's very rapey, very rapy. Like what if what
if she's like no, and then he just like forced
his way in.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, men are so scary.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's so scary out there, Like I've.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Had to leave. Maybe I shouldn't say this never man, Okay, ok.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
A lot of these comments. I'm watching this on the
Hollywood Unlocked Instagram account. A lot of these comments are like,
this woman is zero survival skills. First, you open the
door to a stranger. Second, you tell him that you're
home alone and your husband's not there. Like, lady, no
survival skills. Yeah, everyone's saying the same thing. Why would
you open the door to a stranger? Why would you
(19:40):
tell someone your husband's not home? Even me? Just and
it's not because I'm afraid of like getting raped or whatever.
It's just because my house has been robbed before. Yeah,
and I know that.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Like, so you tell people your husband's home always?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
No, So, like every time I leave the house, well,
maybe I shouldn't say this now.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I know, like I have I have things, I have
things that I do.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I was starting to be like, yeah
I do X, Y and Z to set, but I
don't want people know.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah. Also, because a guy I know, I don't know
if you never met him, A guy I know pretty well,
his wife got murdered that way, Jesus Christ. His wife
got murdered. It was in the news.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It was it's Sue, like you've told me this.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It was a news, huge news story because some guy
pretended he was like some utility worker p Genie or
something like that, and he was knocking on doors. He's like, yo,
there's a gas leak or something something. I got to
come in, and I mean murdered, murdered like bad, bad, bad, butchered.
It was so horrible. It was on the news for
like three or four days, and they kept using her
(20:54):
full name, like oh, that sucks, that sucks, that sucks.
And then the one time that I caught this because
I would hear it or I would, you know whatever,
the one time I looked up at the TV they
showed her picture. I'm like, oh, that's so I know
A shortened name, like like, if you get murdered tonight, Liz,
(21:15):
I would know you from like Lazete or something like that.
But they go, Elizabeth got murdered. I'm like, oh man,
it sucks for Elizabeth. But then if they show your picture,
I'm like, that's the Lazette like from her shortened name.
So they kept saying this woman's name like, oh okay,
that sucks, and then I see your picture. I'm like,
oh my god. But the guy showed up broad daylight
dressed like a pgen guy or like a city worker.
He's like, oh, there's a ghast. Look, I gotta let
(21:35):
you in. And she let him in and then that's it.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
So don't be like nah na na, because my alarms
would be going off. Yeah yeah, I got the alarms.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Meanwhile, I'll be sitting This happened last night. I'm sitting
on my couch six feet away from my sliding glass
window that goes to the porch. Curtains are open because
it's beautiful day. I'm watching TV, and uh, the Amazon
guy shows up. It drops a package off because my
fiance like, hey, did my package show up? Like oh
yeah much. She also ordered like dessert for us dessert
(22:08):
guy shows up, Like I'm in the window and they
show up. They don't ring the doorbell, they don't knock,
They just like leave it on the porch and leave.
I don't know why I was bringing that up. Uh,
you don't open the door for people? Yeah, I done
open the door at all.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I have a little a little.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Blurb.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Why are you blood gating me right now? Oh? People? People?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, the people was that it was the people.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
This was the sets up. Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
So I look and like, I don't know, I'm not
letting nobody in if I'm not expecting you, or if
you're some sort of utility worker and we don't have.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
An appointment, like no, you talk through the door.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I know it might be hard to if like a
PGEN worker just showed up at the door, or like
a Comcast or whoever it is, and they just show
up and say we need to come in. Like on
the outside looking in it, you would think it's common sense,
like well, if you're not expecting them, like right, those
are not the people and that's not the company. They're
(23:12):
just gonna pop up and demand to come in your house. Yeah,
especially if it's like the middle of the day. I
don't know. I feel like it's it's so easy for
people to just be like, oh, yeah, okay, do your thing,
like don't open the door for you nothing. I had
some guys with clipboards knock on my door at like
eleven thirty at night. Once. No, when I lived in
my other place and I was on the phone. Yeah,
(23:35):
I was on the phone, and I was so fucking
scared because I was like, ah, I know this trick.
Fuck no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Not opening this door. I felt, I know I fell
for a scam. This is when I was living in Phoenix.
It was at night. It wasn't eleven thirty like your
clipboard raper, but it was some I lived in a
It was an apartment Commax.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It was an apartment complex. Some dude knocked on the
door and he gave me this like blah blah blah, like, yeah,
he's selling magazines something something something. It was an adult,
it wasn't like a kid. Yeah I'm selling magazines, you know,
blah blah blah, Like all right, cool, I forget. I
let him in the house. We're on like the like
the kitchen island. There's an island in the kitchen. We're
(24:18):
out there. I'm like filling out, like yeah, I'll take
this magazine from you, and I'll subscribe to this. Like
he's like, give me some like great deal on these
like magazines. So I subscribed for like two or three
or something like that. I can't remember if I gave
him cash. I can't remember if I wrote a check,
or I can't remember if I gave him a credit card.
I can't remember how I paid, if I even paid.
And then he goes, hey, well, me and my buddy,
(24:38):
like we're both selling magazines in this apartment complex. I'm
gonna let him know that, like I already got you subscribed,
so not to bother you. So I'm gonna put this
like sticker on your door or something like that. And
I'm like yeah, yeah, okay, okay, cool, cool whatever. And
like my spidy sense was tingling like this whole time,
like something's not right, like worst like best case scenario,
(25:01):
I get magazines. Bad scenario, he takes a couple bucks
and he's scamming me. Worst case scenario we get murdered
or robbed.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, they just smark my door.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I just brought my door and so like I let
that sticker on for like an hour or so. I'm like,
that's weird. I just took it off. But I don't
think I ever got any magazines. My identity never got stolen.
If they did steal money from my account, it wasn't
enough to like for me to notice.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But like I can't. But after he left him, like,
how did I just let some do to my house
saying that he's selling magazines And like he's in my
kitchen now we're filling out paperwork. So I yeah, most
got got to I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Okay, that's scary today's people.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, don't trust people. Today is nine eleven. I have
and you know, maybe maybe people listening weren't alive during
the September eleventh attacks, and that's fine, but it was
a weird time. There were a lot of songs that
were dropped from the radio playlists. Oh yes, do you
want to know some of them? There was a lot
of songs that quote lyrically questionable songs. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I wasn't old enough or in radio at the time. Uh, huh,
I wasn't. I wasn't involved in dropping songs until the
what was that one school with.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
All the kids Columbine No Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Okay, that was when I was involved in dropping songs
from the radio and everything after that. Okay, but nine
to eleven I was not.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
So I just have a list I googled and then
I chat gpt'd this list. I won't say the company
that it came from, big radio company. Some of the
songs with quote potential direct lyrical connections, like if the
nine to eleven just happened, juicy, it's in there somewhere.
Nine eleven just happened in the next couple of days.
Like you hear these lyrics, You're like, that's a bad
(26:47):
takee Yeah. Yeah, So Drowning Pool, the song bodies the chorus,
let the Bodies hit the floor. That one was dropped
the gap band.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So all of these songs were out as singles at
that time in two thousand and one.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, these could have easily been played at any time. Okay,
they're not like I'm not saying any of the brand
new songs. But you know, some stations play like classic
rock and like it's a throwback.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Right right right, But these were all like all currently
on air.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah yeah, And so the memo went out like do
not play any of these songs. Yeah, so Drowning Pool Bodies,
the Gap band, you dropped a bomb on me?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Paul McCartney the song Live and Let Die. I don't
know that one. I guess it's got lyrics about changing
the world whatever. Peter Paul Mary leaving on a jet plane.
Don't know that one, but leaving on a jet plane? Okay, Yeah,
it dropped Phil Collins in the air tonight.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Isn't that like a Laddin song?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, in the air you're thinking of a whole new world.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
No, okay, you no talking heads burning down the house?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Obviously the Bengals walked like an Egyptian. It's a reference
to them at the least. I guess they were being
very sensitive there. Dave Matthews band Crash Into Me dropped
um doma Clean's American Pie. It's probably because the song's
famous line the day the music died, referring to a
(28:16):
plane crash that killed Buddy Holly. You saw Labomba. You
know what we're talking about, right, yikes. John Legend imagined
John Lennon, imagine Frank Sinatra, New York, New York. M
I would have left that one on like well, I
guess at the time, it was pretty sensitive. Leonard Skinner,
Tuesday's Gone. The attacks happened on a Tuesday, so ok,
(28:37):
Scrolling Scrolling Rock, the Kasba Allison, Chains Down, the Hold
the Bones, and Free Tom Petty free Fallin'. So there
was over one hundred and sixty songs that over eleven
thousand radio stations dropped some of them.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Do you ever think about what does deeper agents are
going to be ordered.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
To do all the time all the time, Like, do you.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Think they're gonna some of them got sent here and
they're gonna be like, go there, start a life, get
a job, have a family. On the fifty year anniversary, Yeah,
this goes into action.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, I do a lot. Because isn't that why they
say that what was four twenty? Was it four twenty
Columbine or Sandy Hook? Fortuny? Was Columbine?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I think?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So four to twenty happened because it was the end.
Is that Hitler's birthday or the anniversary of his death.
There was some tie to it, and because of that,
the Columbine shooting happened, and because of that, another some
weird attack happened on four to twenty. So it's like
anniversaries of or yes, some terrorists cells, yeah, some terrorist
(29:53):
attacks against the States happened on the anniversary of a
day that one of our drones blew up a building
over there, or we had an attack over there. They go, oh, yeah, well,
guess what. This is the five year anniversary of when
you killed our people. We're killing your people today. So
I do think of that, like what's gonna happen on
September eleventh, twenty thirty, for example, for twenty twenty thirty. Yeah,
(30:16):
you know what, I also think about it wild. So
on the radio today we took a moment to reflect.
There's a couple of things. I remember waking up that
morning and because I got a phone call and oh
my god, we're under attack. And I'm like, what, like,
if they're attacking us, turn on the TV.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Who is it? Your mom?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, somebody else? Oh, And so I turned on the
TV and I'm like whoa. And I was watching even
I skipped a couple of classes, and I remember just
glued to the TV. When the sen I saw the
second plane hit, I'm like whoa. And then I saw
I was watching when both towers claud I saw the
first one fall I'm like, yo, the second one's gonna fall. Yeah,
saw the second one, and then I remember eventually going
(30:57):
to class that day. The next day, my teacher gave
some speech about like he's gonna he never wears a tie,
He's gonna wear a tie every day until they come
to justice or whatever. But I remember talked about this
on the air. I remember how many American flags were everywhere,
Like you had them in your car. On your car,
you were hanging them off your If you owned a
gas station, you were hanging them in the window. If
(31:18):
you owned the Starbucks, you were hanging them there. You were.
The flags were everywhere. People were printing up flags and
posting them and wearing them, and flags were everywhere. I
remember how quiet the skies looked because I lived in
the Bay Area, so I was between three airports, sant
Oakland's SFO planes were always in the sky. I remember
just looking up in the sky. I'm like, yo, there's
(31:40):
nothing up there. Nobody's up there right now, because the
ground stop was for a couple of days, right and
then I don't remember. The other thing was driving across
the Golden Gate Bridge and seeing the amount of National
Guards with their humbies and their vehicles, like, Yo, the
Golden Gate is next, everybody, we're gonna stop this getting.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I remember them saying the Golden Gate was next.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
There was a thing where they weren't letting trucks of
a certain size go across the gold go across any
bridge because they thought like, oh, you're gonna blow this
shit up, hmm, which is a problem because there's a
port in Oakland, so I think they had to go
like down around the bank. There was something where they
were stopping trucks over a certain size from crossing the
bridge for a couple of days. Yeah, and then I
(32:26):
remember the first time I was at the airport after
the attacks. Obviously they opened them back up September October.
When did I go? Why was I there? I remember?
But there were soldiers with the biggest guns I've ever seen.
Like you you've been with military, You've been around military
(32:46):
guns and whatever, like, yeah, this was this was a monster,
like I don't know, humongous guns. And the guys are
in fatigues and they're at the airports and they're standing
in certain areas and I remember, like it wasn't my phone,
it wasn't been a video camera. I went to be like, wow,
look at how big this gun is. Everybody guy's like, hey,
put that camera down, don't record me. I'm like, you know,
(33:07):
that was stupid. You're right, you're right, you're right. But
it was so unusual to see like a soldier with
massive guns, like not just a soldier, massive soldiers all around,
like at all these places in the airport. H like,
I gotta get this on camera, and he's like, put
that camera down, what are you doing. I'm like, you're
right now, stupid.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Guys recording the next attack.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I also want to bring up I didn't want to
bring us up on the air, but I also want
to bring up the fact that right after the attacks
there was such a hatred towards Middle Eastern people. Remember,
and the Bay Area has a lot of different ethnicities
from the Middle East, And it was so heartbreaking the
(33:47):
amount of what's the word racism, Yes, racism, but it's
a it's a word like a like the like racially
motivated attacks of like this guy's wearing a turban fuck
them up, and like getting beat up in Fremont and
Union City and you get caught sloping in this city.
People are just just like and this was in twenty
this is two thousand and one. You think we would
(34:09):
have advanced past like the Japanese Internment or like other
like fly off the hook like it's them, it's them,
they're all part of it. Like you think we would
have learned from that. Nope. The amount of racially motivated attacks.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It was happening to Asians recently too, right, I don't
remember why.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I don't remember why either, but there was I remember.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
For a minute time recently.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Because there's a whole stop Asian hate.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, but I don't remember why.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I don't know, but it sucked and it was sad.
It's like, brother, this is two thousand and one. Like,
come on, Like the guy in front of you at
Costco was not involved in the terrorist attacks. He may
look like, you know, he may look like the people
you're seeing on TV. It's not him. It's probably not
even his people, his culture, his ethnicity, his religion. But
(35:03):
it was sad watching people get beat up because they
looked a certain way.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Oh, COVID, Is that why?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
The Chinese? That's right? Yes, that was so lame. And
you go beat up an old Chinese lady because COVID
is happening. Yeah, like she masterminded it. Yeah, dude. Sometimes
we suck as a people, Like let's not to start
with the ice agent Halloween costume and end with beating
people up. But we suck as a people a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That's such a that I can't believe we both were
like I don't remember why, Like fucking COVID, Yeah was huge. Yeah,
and because there were there was like a rumor that
it came from bat soup uh.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Huh at a wet market. Yeah, fucking covid. Sometimes we
just got to do better. Let's call Let's call birthday boy.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Okay, I want to call my friend really quick because
today is his birthday and it's also nine to eleven,
and so I just want to ask him what it's like. Hello, Yo,
Happy birthday, Happy birthday.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Oh thank you, you're too kind.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
So welcome to the Mexican Ginger Podcast. Everybody. This is
my friend Matt down in San Diego. He Matt, super
gay Matt. This is everybody.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
So we mentioned this earlier on the podcast, but we
are recording this on September eleventh, that is the anniversary
of the nine to eleven terrorist attacks.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
So what's it like? Having a birthday on nine to eleven.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Are you older than twenty four? Like you were alive
during the attacks?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Right, I was five when it happened. Everybody just sends
me nine to eleven memes year.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's funny. That's what I would do with my friend
group all up.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
So when back then, closer to when nine to eleven happened.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Did you where he was on the day of.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Wait, did you still celebrate your birthday and have birthday
parties or how did that work?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:22):
That year was weird, I remember, and we I think
like my party got moved that year because of what happened.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Like the year that it happened, you didn't have a
birthday party.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
I think it was like a like a week after
something because my grandparents were in Hawaii and they got
trapped there because nobody could fly. My aunt was trapped
in Canada because she couldn't fly either, and so everything
got pushed back a week. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Your aunt just must have really not wanted to see
you know that.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I think my parents thought I was young enough that
I wouldn't know, but I but I.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Did so, so up until two thousand and one, you
had great birthdays, great birthday parties. In two thousand and one,
it got bumped a week and then what was it
like with nine to eleven birthdays? Afterwards?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
They were fairly normal after that, but I do remember that,
like every year at school, we would always have like
a nine to eleven like moment of silence. Yeah, and
so people would always be like having a moment of
silence for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Un serious, unserious.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, that would have sucked to be a kid, and
that I would have felt like, no one's excited to
celebrate my birthday because it's such a sad day. Yeah,
Like that would have been so depressing.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Because yeah, like in a way, like it sucks because
everybody associates your birthday with nine to eleven for sure,
But on the other hand, nobody forgets your birthday.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah there's that.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, glass half full. I like it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Six to one, half a dozen of the other whatever
we're saying.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I don't know this is saying. It's also Ludacris's birthday,
It's Taraji p Henson's birthday. All the cool people, nobody
else I know, ming Lee, why's that name is sound familiar?
A bunch of TikTokers and YouTubers. I think those are
the only two, like big names. Harry Connick Junior.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Oh hey, it's my uh friend Nick's birthday.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It doesn't count the birthdays on nine to eleven. That's
weird and so okay. So the year after, like again,
it kind of puts a dark cloud over your birthday.
Obviously puts a dark cloud over a lot of things
from this day. But at what point was it like,
all right, cool, I'm celebrating again, I'm going all out, Like,
(39:53):
at what point did it stop kind of overshadowing your birthday?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I think the next year it stopped. I remember my
sixth birthday pretty clearly, and that was normal.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
You bounced back pretty fast then, Yeah, it was pretty fast.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
But like, if you guys want to know what my
parents got me the year that it happened, which obviously
they shopped before the date.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I was never an action to your kid. I was like,
I was very much like a I want to play with,
like a dollhouse kid. Yeah, they bought me g I
Joe's and a g I Joe Jeep that year, the
year which is it's a weird fit for me anyway.
But then the coincidence of like I don't know it
(40:34):
was G I Joe in the army or whatever. Yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Wow, did you ever play with it?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I think I pushed the jeep around. I didn't really
play with G I Joe. Yeah, it was if it
was like girl, G I Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Maybe you know what's funny is And so that was
your sixth birthday, you said.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
That was my that was the year of that was
my fifth birthday.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Fifth birthday, and so you were already like, dude, I'm
into dolls, not G I Joe's. Yeah, okay, you know
what's funny. So I never we never talked about this.
So I had this one had have I had this
one cousin, and this cousin was big into like my
little ponies, and he liked Madonna. When we used to
like like hip hop songs, like, he was all like,
no joke, like it was he was super young, and
(41:21):
we used to always joke because you're fucking eight years
old and you're dumb and you're whatever ignorant. We're like, oh,
he's gay, Like our cousin's gay, da da da, you know,
just just from going off those like telltale signs like
he doesn't like sports.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Like I don't be that. I don't think that like
indicates anything, but for some reason, it's like always a
good sign.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Right, And so because there was like four yeah, there
were four boy cousins and he's the only one that
liked Madonna and my little Pony had and like and
like all that stuff, and like we're like football soccer
swords like jump on each other and he's like no,
and like he was a little mama's boy, and we're like, oh,
he's gay. He's gay, like and then come to find
(42:03):
out later, yes he is. But it was almost like
like you said, like a telltale sign, like oh, we
he knew or we knew like way back when he
was four or five, six years old, just because of
how he would. I don't know, I don't know if
that's when it really happens or turns on, but it
when it turns on.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Like he just wake up one day and it's turned on, you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
No, but that's so real because I remember being like
three or four and telling like my mom would ask
me like, oh, your favorite like person to listen to,
and I was like Britney fear.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, you know when you know, and for a lot
of people, they know right out the gate, they just
don't have a way of verbalizing or communicating it well.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
And then you have to suppress it from about ages
eight to eighteen. But that's fine.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That's sick. It's not fine. It's not fine. That sucks.
I feel I feel so bad for my cousin who
hid it for an extremely long amount of time, and
then we have we remember friends who hit it. I'm like,
you shouldn't have it.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
It's like you hide it, but at the same time,
everybody knows, but you just haven't like verbalized it out loud.
But it's like it happens almost every time. When I
watched the coming out videos, I could tell.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
My mom, Yeah, it was like, you know, she's like
pretty homophob books, but she's like, I knew that you
were gay when you were four, And I'm like, well,
then why didn't you say something?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Why didn't you tell me? You should have told me?
That's funny, all right, Well, we wanted to see, uh,
how you were celebrating your birthday today and make sure
you didn't forget.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I never forget.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
We never forget, never forget.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Never forget see.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
The theme that Megan Tiner posted.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
No, I don't follow her. Yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Say it again?
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I said every gay gets her in their feed because
of Chris Olsen.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Oh that's funny. I don't even know who Chris Olsen.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Is me either.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
He's a TikToker and he's best friends with her.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Okay, also a gay agay, also one of us.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Yeah, I just wanted to clan. She posted like a
nine to eleven, happy nine to eleven to everybody day.
The people were freaking out. Y I always I saw
it in passing.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Happy nine to eleven is not the way to say it.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah, that's a weird way to word it, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Happy anniversary nine to eleven?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Weird? Yeah I would I would never.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
All right, well, happy birthday. Thanks for being part of
the podcast, and thanks for always helping out when that
reaches out to you.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Oh of course, and thank you thank you for having
me on you.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Guys, longtime listener, first time caller.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
All right, go back to sleep Man. Thanks again.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Okay, talk to dude, ma bed Man.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Now that was funny.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
He's so gay.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
All right, let's wrap this podcast up. Thank you for
streaming and watching our YouTube and following us on Instagram
at Strawberry and Lazette.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'm what's your name? At Lizette Love l i Z.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Holy crap, l i Z E T T.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
E l O V e E.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Did you forget that's what your name? Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Let's make a thing out what just happened.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
That was weird.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I am at Strawberry Radio. We will talk to you
next time. Be good to one another, please, all right.
Peace
On episode seventy five of the Mexican Ginger Podcast, we
talked about why Tupac shouldn't have been shot, faking out
my lift driver, some September eleventh memories, and why you
should ever open the door for strangers. On top of that,
we called Lysette's friend Gay Matt and wished him a
happy birthday. All coming up next, it's podcast time.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's the Strawberry and Lisette Mexican Ginger Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Not suitable for a younger audience.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, thanks for being here with the podcast and
for streaming or watching the YouTube channel. You can follow
us on Instagram at Strawberry and Lysette. G. You'm gonna
put you in a bad mood right off the bat. Yes,
all right, saw this TikTok and I'm like, oh god,
this dude is right. All right, listen to this.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I just realized we're two months out from Halloween and
the worst person you know is going to dress up
as an Ice agent and then their friend is going
to dress up as an illegal immigrant and it's going
to be the stupidest fucking thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I like, you know what, He's.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right, I guarantee you Yeah, we're going to see.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely you know who Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Because the thing
with Halloween is you kind of take what someone.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Might even dress up as that boy that just got shot.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh yeah, uh Kirk Yeah, Chris yeah, Chris kirkra you take,
you kind of take what you lean into whatever is
like trending, trending in pop culture, and with so many
ice raids and deportation raids and like ices in the
news so much right now that yeah, someone's gonna think
it's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Mm hmm, it's gonna be. They're probably gonna be some
college kids, mm hmm. You know, I don't put anything
past anyone ever since well not not ever since any
time in particular, but seeing what's been done in the past,
there's been like George Floyd costumes.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know, I walked that line where I kind of
feel like Halloween should have a no holds barred vibe
to it, like oh, you're you're your costume is triggering
to me or it's insulting. Like I think, like in
the spirit of Halloween, it should be a no holds
barred except I find certain things I'm like, oh, that
(02:09):
probably is a cross the line, like the George Floyd,
it's cross the line.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
It's one thing when it's funny, it's another thing when, like,
you know what the fuck you're doing, Like dressing up
as Britney Spears with knives funny, sure, dressing up as
fucking George Floyd and a white cop standing on his
neck like, yeah, is that supposed to be fucking funny?
Because it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, So what are you folding over there? OREGONI oh,
you brought it back funny?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You want to do it?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
What are those what are those things called the fortune tellers?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The fortune toes where you folded up in the paper.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I forgot how to make it, so I just had
to look at Google directions. Okay, so shout out to
the Boys and Girls Club of Greater Westfield, Nice wherever
that is, for the step by step on making a
little fortune teller. Okay, okay, pick a color. Don't forget
what you were gonna say.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, but you're gonna give me a list of colors.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Right, blue, red, purple, or rainbow.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Gotta go blue, b l you e uh huh?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Pick a number seven, eight, four or three.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Mmm, I'm gonna go three.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You have titties, that's a fortunate.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Give me.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'm gonna do your fortune. But you already know.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Them, right, yeah, but I don't know which one.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Is with Okay, give you give it, give give, give
you titties. You're so stupid. Oh I forgot Okay, give
me a give me color rainbow, purple, blue, a red,
can't be blue? Already pick blue red, r E D M.
Tick a number eight, three, four, seven, it can't be
three's already picked three.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Seven.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Now don't I do like one of the seven?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Now now you open it open what the flap for
the number seven?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
There is no number seven. They're different, but there's different numbers.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Now oh shit, okay, yeah you're right, open number seven.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And then now you go one of the seven. And
then now you say pick a number and then I
open the flap. So now you have the number one, two,
six or five one. So yeah, you gave me titties
way too early. Gay, Okay, what are their fortunes? Pretty
princess and smell like bussy? Right time? Well spent.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
These are all supposed to be for you.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So apparently.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
That's what I was making while uh, now you can't
throw this away at the station.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, you can't work. Okay, Yeah, I got something really cool.
There's this dude. I follow this dude I on TikTok.
He's this. He's a sports writer that did this like
several years of deep diving into Tupac. And I'm a
huge Tupac fan. And he's writing like the quintessential book
on Tupac's called Only God Can Judge Me. This is
(05:14):
not a plug. I'm just telling you, like where I
got this video from. So anyway, on September ninth, which
was four days ago. From here, September September ninth, sorry,
September seventh. September seventh, which is like four days ago.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
September seventh was the twenty ninth anniversary of the night
Tupac got shot. Okay, okay, so this video popped up
on my for you page. Wait, September seventh was the
night he got shot.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He was twenty ninth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, are you sure?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What year he got shot?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I want to say it was ninety ninety seven, ninety.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Him getting shot twenty nine years ago and nine to
eleven happening twenty four years ago. Sounds like it's off.
Was it that close?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Hold on what I used to know? All this?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
What year I was a baby when he got shot Chupac?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, he died in ninety six, So he got shot
in ninety six. Is the math mathing or.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Laughing five years apart?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Apparently?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Doesn't that sound like.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Sounds weird?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, that sounds weird, dude.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I remember. So before I get this list, So I
was working, was this it wild? This was a wild?
So I was working in San Francisco. Big Vaughn was
on the radio. It was like, what's been a Saturday morning,
Saturday or Sunday morning. It's walking down this long hallway
to get to the studio because I guess I was
on after Vaughn or something like that. It was in
the morning. Vaughn was on the phone with Sway and
(06:51):
they were on speakerphone, and I was like walking down
the hall. For whatever reason, Vaughn had the studio open,
like if anybody's ever been in radio station or studio,
like you leave all the doors closed like so like,
NOI he doesn't pop in. But it was like early
in the morning. Vaughan didn't care. Door was open, and
I was listening to him and Sway talk And this
was just after Tupac got shot. Don't forget Tupac got
shot relatively recently before that, also when he was in
(07:13):
the Quad City studios. He got shot, he bounced back,
he went to court the very next day, and so
I remember them hearing I remember hearing them talk like, yo,
he got shot again. He after he survives this one,
he's gonna be like, oh Jesus, you guys can't take
me out, like they were saying, like what Pak is
gonna do after he recovers from this Las Vegas shooting.
I remember that, and then I remember, Man, it must
(07:38):
have been a day or two later that Tupac died,
and I'm like, oh my god, he actually died, Like
this doesn't happen in hip hop, This doesn't happen in music,
like he died. And I remember, I think he died
in the afternoons. I remember JV from the Doghouse at
the time. JV was in the studio with I believe
it was Saint John the Afternoon Show, and he just
(07:58):
like because the Bay Area loves to I mean, we
love him, so it's like we lost a piece of ourselves.
And at that time, it was. It was you were
on the West Coast versus East Coast bandwagon, Like you
were a part of that if you were on the
West Coast, if you were in the Bay area, you
felt that sure. Looking back on it now, it was lame.
We shouldn't have been, like we shouldn't have dug too
(08:20):
deep into that whole West Coast East Coast rivalry. But
it was a thing, and we had our alliances. So anyway,
they said, I remember being on the road driving to work,
listening to JV and Saint John like break the news
and say, hey, it happened, and JV did this thing
like the bayry loves Tupac, Like this is senseless, Like
we want to bring everybody together, and like we're all
(08:40):
mourning together. Like everybody, just turn your lights on, drive
around all weekend, drive around all day with your headlights on,
you know, show your love female for Tupac and da
da dah, and like this is senseless violence. And I
remember being on the freeway. I was on two eighty
and I just see blink the link binkla bla. Think
all these cars around me started turning their headlights on
because they were listening to the same show I was.
(09:02):
They were still listen.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
They were listening to.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And I remember like driving to work and he was
in the afternoon. Everybody's got their headlights on, and I go,
that's powerful, and so I go to feel like Saint JV.
I watched everybody turn their headlights on when you were saying, like,
turn your headlights on all weekend, and so that was
like the vibe. We kept mentioning that, like, hey, all weekend,
turn your headlights on. But anyway, that's all that to say.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
If we did that here, nobody would care all that
to say, we would know we can see the car.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah right, we're looking them free right now.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
We should have did it for our nine to eleven break.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
This author, the sports writer, is now author of the
book Only God can Judge Me. He goes, Tupac should
not have been at that fight, that Mike Tyson fight
that night. He shouldn't have been in Vegas. He shouldn't
have been shot. As a matter of fact, here are
three reasons why Tupac shouldn't have been there that night.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Number one, that Mike Tyson in Bruce Selden fight that
Tupac was in Vegas. Four September seventh. The original fight
was supposed to be July thirteenth, ninety six. The original
fight was supposed to be in July. I guess Mike
Tyson wasn't ready. His camp came up with some excuse
(10:16):
to delay the fight from July all the way back
till September.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
But the same people also would have been there at
that fight, right, So what it just happened? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean, if you believe the story that Tupac saw
Orlando Anderson in the lobby of the MGM, started a
fight with him, Orlando's like, I can't go back to
the hood and had have people think, like a rapper
beat me up. I need revenge, I'm shooting him. So
if you believe, if that's what really happened, then who knows.
Just because the fight would have been in July doesn't
(10:50):
mean that Pac and Orlando Anderson would have been in
the same hotel lobby, you know. I mean, like, who's
to say, Like if Lazette, if we're supposed to be
somewhere one day and it gets postponed four month, that
we're going to walk past the same people at the
same time. So Mike Tyson's fight being delayed was one reason.
Second reason that he shouldn't have been there that night.
(11:10):
Tanya Heart was an MTV VJ good friends with Tupac,
invited Tupac to one of her churches, one of her
church services, and PAC's like, yeah, I'll go when she
goes September seventh, you know, come with me to church this,
you know, September seventh day. All right, cool, cook, Well
I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. So
if Pac would have gone to church with Tanya Heart
from MTV like he said he would have, he wouldn't
(11:33):
have been in Vegas. He wouldn't have seen Orlando. Wow,
So that's number two, number three. The night before the fight,
September sixth, nineteen ninety six, Tupac got a call from Atlanta.
His cousin was using crack. Well documented, it's not a secret.
Tupac's cousin pawned Tupac's prize possession, this machine gun, this
(11:56):
Mac eleven. So the wife Tupuk's cousin called, hey, your
your cousin smoking crack again. He sold your machine gun
for money. He pawned off your Mac eleven. He used
the money for drugs. You gotta help him. Pak was furious.
It was like his prize possession. He's like, you tell
your husband, I'm flying out to Atlanta and I'm gonna
(12:17):
cut off his hand. He called Delta Airlines, booked a flight,
bought tickets to go the next morning to Atlanta. Didn't
get on that flight. So three. I'm sure there are
other reasons, but those are three major reasons that he
chose the fork in the road and he chose to
(12:39):
go to Vegas to go to the fight.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Now, let's talk about the fact that he double booked himself,
Like he didn't even talk about anybody in keeping his promises.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I know, right, Like a good point. Good point.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I'm supposed to go to church with you, but I
just told these people and going to Atlanta. Yeah, And
I just told these people and going to Atlanta, but
I'm supposed to go to church with you. Yeah, Like
and I'm in yeah, I'm in the oh.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But yeah. So I can't wait for this dude who
spoke to come out. But that that video popped up
on my for you page on the anniversary of Pox shooting,
and I'm like, wow, I got to bring that up
on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I can't wait to see Kanye West documentary when he's
off his mads. That's gonna be crazy. When does that
drop September sixteenth?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay, oh wow, that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Tell me if I'm a dick for this. So, yes,
in our building, our building is in the middle of
two parking lots. Right, you walk out the front door,
there's a parking lot. You walk out the back door,
there's a parking lot. So when I call a lift
or an uber, I say, here's the address. Sometimes the
GPS puts them in the back of the building, and
(13:47):
so I walk out the front. I see the GPS
in the back. I'm like, ugh, So I gotta walk
through the building. I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Doesn't take it long, by the way, like final it's down.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I gotta walk back into the building, all the way
down the other end of the hall, out the door,
now into the back parking lot. And I always do
that because I don't care or you know, if I
see they're still driving, I'll call them real quick. Hey,
your GPS is putting you in the back. Come up
to the front for whatever reason. Just the other day,
and so that's why who cares? So the other day,
(14:17):
dropped a pin. Hey uber, actually lift, hey lift, pick
me up? Lifts? So hey, Strawberty your lifts here? Cool,
go downstairs. I walk out the front, don't see the lift.
I look on the GPS. Ah, the guy's in the back.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You don't ever put like a note like come to
the front in the roundabout with the fountain or something.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, what I was gonna do. I was gonna say
that I had nobody here is. I put the address
of the sandwich shop that's right across the sea. Yeah,
so I have them picked me up from the quote
unquote sandwich shop. So anyway, I see the guys in
the back. I'm like, I've been here a long time today,
I'm kind of tired. So I called him and I go, hey, man,
you know GPS dropped in the back. Can you pick
(14:56):
me up in the front. It's like, can't you walk
over here? I'm like, bro, and I go, I would,
but I have a bad leg. Man, I got a
knee injury. Can't walk. I don't know where this came from.
I can't. You know, it's walking's tough. He goes, all right,
I'll be right there. I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
But now I'm like, did you limp to his car?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So the guy pulls up.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It was the only thing I can think of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It was the only reason I could be like, I'm
a well abled, athletic, healthy individual. Sure I could walk
through the building over to where you are, but I'm
paying for this service. Come pick me up. Yeah, So,
without saying, hey, I'm paying you, come pick me up,
I go the scaredy cat route, the wimp option. I go, yeah,
I got a bad leg, bro, he got to pick
(15:42):
me up. So he pulls up. I limp over to
his car. Subtle limp, but sure I wanted him to
know that I have a limp. And then I go,
maybe he didn't see that. So when I sit down,
I go I kind of played it off. So he
drives me home and I go, oh damn, I gotta
do it again. So I get out of the car
(16:02):
and then normally he would drive away, he stays there
on his phone. So now I got a limp from
his car to my front porch, which, as you know,
has some stairs. So I have to limp up the
stairs until I get my door unlocked. He's still there.
I have to limp into my house all because I
didn't want to walk through the building to where his
(16:25):
GPS was.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Now, you gotta stick to your life.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I got to stick to it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
No, no, I don't think you're a dick.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Good, thank you. I felt like such a dick doing
it because he was also an older guy. I don't
just I don't know. Watch didn't hurt nobody, I know,
but I could have been like, hey man, look i'm
paying you to pick me up. Come pick me up.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
But no, gess that's being a dick.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay, all right, good, I feel better about myself though
still bad about myself, but better now.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, just did a fake limp. I hear pimping with
the limping.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I don't think it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Good, I got two more things.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
What do you got?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You got anything?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
No, but I got a hold of They texted me back.
If you want to call.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Uh, yeah, we can put at the end because I'm
I'm gonna I'm on a roll right now. So yeah,
definitely is he does he have a time limit?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
No, he was sleeping.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Okay, I'm gonna play you one thing. Then sometimes we
don't get to see uh like real macin in action.
We don't get to see like real game from just
a just like a Romeo, just a real player out
there on the streets. Luckily, with the ring cam, we
can see it when it happens in ring life. In
real life. I'm gonna play a ring cam footage. You
(17:42):
tell me how smooth this guy is.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The wife answers the door, Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
No, So basically I just say if you like that.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I didn't hear anything he said.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Stupid dog. He goes, hey, is your husband home right now?
She goes no. He's like, all right, well, basically just
want to know if you want fuck or not? You
know who? Let me let me paint the picture. You
know who Ralph Barbosa is?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Do I you do the comedian?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Let me look him up.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
This guy looks like he's Ralph Barbosa's cousin. Skinny, he's
got a starter mustache on, He's got like.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
A oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So picture Ralph Barbosa's cousin.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
This guy just went to some random house or was he?
And I heard bags? Was he like a delivery driver?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Just a random house? And then the ring camera catches
him like walking down the stairs, and like running away?
Is your at home? Just want to know if you
want fuck him?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Running away makes it seem like he was out for rape.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah right, Like and this is broad daylight, by the way,
this is the middle of the day.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, that's very rapey, very rapy. Like what if what
if she's like no, and then he just like forced
his way in.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, men are so scary.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's so scary out there, Like I've.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Had to leave. Maybe I shouldn't say this never man, Okay, ok.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
A lot of these comments. I'm watching this on the
Hollywood Unlocked Instagram account. A lot of these comments are like,
this woman is zero survival skills. First, you open the
door to a stranger. Second, you tell him that you're
home alone and your husband's not there. Like, lady, no
survival skills. Yeah, everyone's saying the same thing. Why would
you open the door to a stranger? Why would you
(19:40):
tell someone your husband's not home? Even me? Just and
it's not because I'm afraid of like getting raped or whatever.
It's just because my house has been robbed before. Yeah,
and I know that.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Like, so you tell people your husband's home always?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
No, So, like every time I leave the house, well,
maybe I shouldn't say this now.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I know, like I have I have things, I have
things that I do.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I was starting to be like, yeah
I do X, Y and Z to set, but I
don't want people know.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah. Also, because a guy I know, I don't know
if you never met him, A guy I know pretty well,
his wife got murdered that way, Jesus Christ. His wife
got murdered. It was in the news.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It was it's Sue, like you've told me this.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It was a news, huge news story because some guy
pretended he was like some utility worker p Genie or
something like that, and he was knocking on doors. He's like, yo,
there's a gas leak or something something. I got to
come in, and I mean murdered, murdered like bad, bad, bad, butchered.
It was so horrible. It was on the news for
like three or four days, and they kept using her
(20:54):
full name, like oh, that sucks, that sucks, that sucks.
And then the one time that I caught this because
I would hear it or I would, you know whatever,
the one time I looked up at the TV they
showed her picture. I'm like, oh, that's so I know
A shortened name, like like, if you get murdered tonight, Liz,
(21:15):
I would know you from like Lazete or something like that.
But they go, Elizabeth got murdered. I'm like, oh man,
it sucks for Elizabeth. But then if they show your picture,
I'm like, that's the Lazette like from her shortened name.
So they kept saying this woman's name like, oh okay,
that sucks, and then I see your picture. I'm like,
oh my god. But the guy showed up broad daylight
dressed like a pgen guy or like a city worker.
He's like, oh, there's a ghast. Look, I gotta let
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you in. And she let him in and then that's it.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
So don't be like nah na na, because my alarms
would be going off. Yeah yeah, I got the alarms.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Meanwhile, I'll be sitting This happened last night. I'm sitting
on my couch six feet away from my sliding glass
window that goes to the porch. Curtains are open because
it's beautiful day. I'm watching TV, and uh, the Amazon
guy shows up. It drops a package off because my
fiance like, hey, did my package show up? Like oh
yeah much. She also ordered like dessert for us dessert
(22:08):
guy shows up, Like I'm in the window and they
show up. They don't ring the doorbell, they don't knock,
They just like leave it on the porch and leave.
I don't know why I was bringing that up. Uh,
you don't open the door for people? Yeah, I done
open the door at all.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I have a little a little.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Blurb.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Why are you blood gating me right now? Oh? People? People?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, the people was that it was the people.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
This was the sets up. Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
So I look and like, I don't know, I'm not
letting nobody in if I'm not expecting you, or if
you're some sort of utility worker and we don't have.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
An appointment, like no, you talk through the door.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I know it might be hard to if like a
PGEN worker just showed up at the door, or like
a Comcast or whoever it is, and they just show
up and say we need to come in. Like on
the outside looking in it, you would think it's common sense,
like well, if you're not expecting them, like right, those
are not the people and that's not the company. They're
(23:12):
just gonna pop up and demand to come in your house. Yeah,
especially if it's like the middle of the day. I
don't know. I feel like it's it's so easy for
people to just be like, oh, yeah, okay, do your thing,
like don't open the door for you nothing. I had
some guys with clipboards knock on my door at like
eleven thirty at night. Once. No, when I lived in
my other place and I was on the phone. Yeah,
(23:35):
I was on the phone, and I was so fucking
scared because I was like, ah, I know this trick.
Fuck no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Not opening this door. I felt, I know I fell
for a scam. This is when I was living in Phoenix.
It was at night. It wasn't eleven thirty like your
clipboard raper, but it was some I lived in a
It was an apartment Commax.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It was an apartment complex. Some dude knocked on the
door and he gave me this like blah blah blah, like, yeah,
he's selling magazines something something something. It was an adult,
it wasn't like a kid. Yeah I'm selling magazines, you know,
blah blah blah, Like all right, cool, I forget. I
let him in the house. We're on like the like
the kitchen island. There's an island in the kitchen. We're
(24:18):
out there. I'm like filling out, like yeah, I'll take
this magazine from you, and I'll subscribe to this. Like
he's like, give me some like great deal on these
like magazines. So I subscribed for like two or three
or something like that. I can't remember if I gave
him cash. I can't remember if I wrote a check,
or I can't remember if I gave him a credit card.
I can't remember how I paid, if I even paid.
And then he goes, hey, well, me and my buddy,
(24:38):
like we're both selling magazines in this apartment complex. I'm
gonna let him know that, like I already got you subscribed,
so not to bother you. So I'm gonna put this
like sticker on your door or something like that. And
I'm like yeah, yeah, okay, okay, cool, cool whatever. And
like my spidy sense was tingling like this whole time,
like something's not right, like worst like best case scenario,
(25:01):
I get magazines. Bad scenario, he takes a couple bucks
and he's scamming me. Worst case scenario we get murdered
or robbed.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, they just smark my door.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I just brought my door and so like I let
that sticker on for like an hour or so. I'm like,
that's weird. I just took it off. But I don't
think I ever got any magazines. My identity never got stolen.
If they did steal money from my account, it wasn't
enough to like for me to notice.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But like I can't. But after he left him, like,
how did I just let some do to my house
saying that he's selling magazines And like he's in my
kitchen now we're filling out paperwork. So I yeah, most
got got to I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Okay, that's scary today's people.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, don't trust people. Today is nine eleven. I have
and you know, maybe maybe people listening weren't alive during
the September eleventh attacks, and that's fine, but it was
a weird time. There were a lot of songs that
were dropped from the radio playlists. Oh yes, do you
want to know some of them? There was a lot
of songs that quote lyrically questionable songs. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I wasn't old enough or in radio at the time. Uh, huh,
I wasn't. I wasn't involved in dropping songs until the
what was that one school with.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
All the kids Columbine No Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Okay, that was when I was involved in dropping songs
from the radio and everything after that. Okay, but nine
to eleven I was not.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
So I just have a list I googled and then
I chat gpt'd this list. I won't say the company
that it came from, big radio company. Some of the
songs with quote potential direct lyrical connections, like if the
nine to eleven just happened, juicy, it's in there somewhere.
Nine eleven just happened in the next couple of days.
Like you hear these lyrics, You're like, that's a bad
(26:47):
takee Yeah. Yeah, So Drowning Pool, the song bodies the chorus,
let the Bodies hit the floor. That one was dropped
the gap band.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So all of these songs were out as singles at
that time in two thousand and one.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, these could have easily been played at any time. Okay,
they're not like I'm not saying any of the brand
new songs. But you know, some stations play like classic
rock and like it's a throwback.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Right right right, But these were all like all currently
on air.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah yeah, And so the memo went out like do
not play any of these songs. Yeah, so Drowning Pool Bodies,
the Gap band, you dropped a bomb on me?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Paul McCartney the song Live and Let Die. I don't
know that one. I guess it's got lyrics about changing
the world whatever. Peter Paul Mary leaving on a jet plane.
Don't know that one, but leaving on a jet plane? Okay, Yeah,
it dropped Phil Collins in the air tonight.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Isn't that like a Laddin song?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, in the air you're thinking of a whole new world.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
No, okay, you no talking heads burning down the house?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Obviously the Bengals walked like an Egyptian. It's a reference
to them at the least. I guess they were being
very sensitive there. Dave Matthews band Crash Into Me dropped
um doma Clean's American Pie. It's probably because the song's
famous line the day the music died, referring to a
(28:16):
plane crash that killed Buddy Holly. You saw Labomba. You
know what we're talking about, right, yikes. John Legend imagined
John Lennon, imagine Frank Sinatra, New York, New York. M
I would have left that one on like well, I
guess at the time, it was pretty sensitive. Leonard Skinner,
Tuesday's Gone. The attacks happened on a Tuesday, so ok,
(28:37):
Scrolling Scrolling Rock, the Kasba Allison, Chains Down, the Hold
the Bones, and Free Tom Petty free Fallin'. So there
was over one hundred and sixty songs that over eleven
thousand radio stations dropped some of them.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Do you ever think about what does deeper agents are
going to be ordered.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
To do all the time all the time, Like, do you.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Think they're gonna some of them got sent here and
they're gonna be like, go there, start a life, get
a job, have a family. On the fifty year anniversary, Yeah,
this goes into action.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, I do a lot. Because isn't that why they
say that what was four twenty? Was it four twenty
Columbine or Sandy Hook? Fortuny? Was Columbine?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I think?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So four to twenty happened because it was the end.
Is that Hitler's birthday or the anniversary of his death.
There was some tie to it, and because of that,
the Columbine shooting happened, and because of that, another some
weird attack happened on four to twenty. So it's like
anniversaries of or yes, some terrorists cells, yeah, some terrorist
(29:53):
attacks against the States happened on the anniversary of a
day that one of our drones blew up a building
over there, or we had an attack over there. They go, oh, yeah, well,
guess what. This is the five year anniversary of when
you killed our people. We're killing your people today. So
I do think of that, like what's gonna happen on
September eleventh, twenty thirty, for example, for twenty twenty thirty. Yeah,
(30:16):
you know what, I also think about it wild. So
on the radio today we took a moment to reflect.
There's a couple of things. I remember waking up that
morning and because I got a phone call and oh
my god, we're under attack. And I'm like, what, like,
if they're attacking us, turn on the TV.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Who is it? Your mom?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, somebody else? Oh, And so I turned on the
TV and I'm like whoa. And I was watching even
I skipped a couple of classes, and I remember just
glued to the TV. When the sen I saw the
second plane hit, I'm like whoa. And then I saw
I was watching when both towers claud I saw the
first one fall I'm like, yo, the second one's gonna fall. Yeah,
saw the second one, and then I remember eventually going
(30:57):
to class that day. The next day, my teacher gave
some speech about like he's gonna he never wears a tie,
He's gonna wear a tie every day until they come
to justice or whatever. But I remember talked about this
on the air. I remember how many American flags were everywhere,
Like you had them in your car. On your car,
you were hanging them off your If you owned a
gas station, you were hanging them in the window. If
(31:18):
you owned the Starbucks, you were hanging them there. You were.
The flags were everywhere. People were printing up flags and
posting them and wearing them, and flags were everywhere. I
remember how quiet the skies looked because I lived in
the Bay Area, so I was between three airports, sant
Oakland's SFO planes were always in the sky. I remember
just looking up in the sky. I'm like, yo, there's
(31:40):
nothing up there. Nobody's up there right now, because the
ground stop was for a couple of days, right and
then I don't remember. The other thing was driving across
the Golden Gate Bridge and seeing the amount of National
Guards with their humbies and their vehicles, like, Yo, the
Golden Gate is next, everybody, we're gonna stop this getting.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I remember them saying the Golden Gate was next.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
There was a thing where they weren't letting trucks of
a certain size go across the gold go across any
bridge because they thought like, oh, you're gonna blow this
shit up, hmm, which is a problem because there's a
port in Oakland, so I think they had to go
like down around the bank. There was something where they
were stopping trucks over a certain size from crossing the
bridge for a couple of days. Yeah, and then I
(32:26):
remember the first time I was at the airport after
the attacks. Obviously they opened them back up September October.
When did I go? Why was I there? I remember?
But there were soldiers with the biggest guns I've ever seen.
Like you you've been with military, You've been around military
(32:46):
guns and whatever, like, yeah, this was this was a monster,
like I don't know, humongous guns. And the guys are
in fatigues and they're at the airports and they're standing
in certain areas and I remember, like it wasn't my phone,
it wasn't been a video camera. I went to be like, wow,
look at how big this gun is. Everybody guy's like, hey,
put that camera down, don't record me. I'm like, you know,
(33:07):
that was stupid. You're right, you're right, you're right. But
it was so unusual to see like a soldier with
massive guns, like not just a soldier, massive soldiers all around,
like at all these places in the airport. H like,
I gotta get this on camera, and he's like, put
that camera down, what are you doing. I'm like, you're
right now, stupid.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Guys recording the next attack.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I also want to bring up I didn't want to
bring us up on the air, but I also want
to bring up the fact that right after the attacks
there was such a hatred towards Middle Eastern people. Remember,
and the Bay Area has a lot of different ethnicities
from the Middle East, And it was so heartbreaking the
(33:47):
amount of what's the word racism, Yes, racism, but it's
a it's a word like a like the like racially
motivated attacks of like this guy's wearing a turban fuck
them up, and like getting beat up in Fremont and
Union City and you get caught sloping in this city.
People are just just like and this was in twenty
this is two thousand and one. You think we would
(34:09):
have advanced past like the Japanese Internment or like other
like fly off the hook like it's them, it's them,
they're all part of it. Like you think we would
have learned from that. Nope. The amount of racially motivated attacks.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It was happening to Asians recently too, right, I don't
remember why.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I don't remember why either, but there was I remember.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
For a minute time recently.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Because there's a whole stop Asian hate.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, but I don't remember why.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I don't know, but it sucked and it was sad.
It's like, brother, this is two thousand and one. Like,
come on, Like the guy in front of you at
Costco was not involved in the terrorist attacks. He may
look like, you know, he may look like the people
you're seeing on TV. It's not him. It's probably not
even his people, his culture, his ethnicity, his religion. But
(35:03):
it was sad watching people get beat up because they
looked a certain way.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Oh, COVID, Is that why?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
The Chinese? That's right? Yes, that was so lame. And
you go beat up an old Chinese lady because COVID
is happening. Yeah, like she masterminded it. Yeah, dude. Sometimes
we suck as a people, Like let's not to start
with the ice agent Halloween costume and end with beating
people up. But we suck as a people a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That's such a that I can't believe we both were
like I don't remember why, Like fucking COVID, Yeah was huge. Yeah,
and because there were there was like a rumor that
it came from bat soup uh.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Huh at a wet market. Yeah, fucking covid. Sometimes we
just got to do better. Let's call Let's call birthday boy.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Okay, I want to call my friend really quick because
today is his birthday and it's also nine to eleven,
and so I just want to ask him what it's like. Hello, Yo,
Happy birthday, Happy birthday.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Oh thank you, you're too kind.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
So welcome to the Mexican Ginger Podcast. Everybody. This is
my friend Matt down in San Diego. He Matt, super
gay Matt. This is everybody.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
So we mentioned this earlier on the podcast, but we
are recording this on September eleventh, that is the anniversary
of the nine to eleven terrorist attacks.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
So what's it like? Having a birthday on nine to eleven.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Are you older than twenty four? Like you were alive
during the attacks?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Right, I was five when it happened. Everybody just sends
me nine to eleven memes year.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's funny. That's what I would do with my friend
group all up.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
So when back then, closer to when nine to eleven happened.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Did you where he was on the day of.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Wait, did you still celebrate your birthday and have birthday
parties or how did that work?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:22):
That year was weird, I remember, and we I think
like my party got moved that year because of what happened.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Like the year that it happened, you didn't have a
birthday party.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
I think it was like a like a week after
something because my grandparents were in Hawaii and they got
trapped there because nobody could fly. My aunt was trapped
in Canada because she couldn't fly either, and so everything
got pushed back a week. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Your aunt just must have really not wanted to see
you know that.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I think my parents thought I was young enough that
I wouldn't know, but I but I.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Did so, so up until two thousand and one, you
had great birthdays, great birthday parties. In two thousand and one,
it got bumped a week and then what was it
like with nine to eleven birthdays? Afterwards?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
They were fairly normal after that, but I do remember that,
like every year at school, we would always have like
a nine to eleven like moment of silence. Yeah, and
so people would always be like having a moment of
silence for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Un serious, unserious.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, that would have sucked to be a kid, and
that I would have felt like, no one's excited to
celebrate my birthday because it's such a sad day. Yeah,
Like that would have been so depressing.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Because yeah, like in a way, like it sucks because
everybody associates your birthday with nine to eleven for sure,
But on the other hand, nobody forgets your birthday.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah there's that.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, glass half full. I like it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Six to one, half a dozen of the other whatever
we're saying.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I don't know this is saying. It's also Ludacris's birthday,
It's Taraji p Henson's birthday. All the cool people, nobody
else I know, ming Lee, why's that name is sound familiar?
A bunch of TikTokers and YouTubers. I think those are
the only two, like big names. Harry Connick Junior.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Oh hey, it's my uh friend Nick's birthday.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It doesn't count the birthdays on nine to eleven. That's
weird and so okay. So the year after, like again,
it kind of puts a dark cloud over your birthday.
Obviously puts a dark cloud over a lot of things
from this day. But at what point was it like,
all right, cool, I'm celebrating again, I'm going all out, Like,
(39:53):
at what point did it stop kind of overshadowing your birthday?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I think the next year it stopped. I remember my
sixth birthday pretty clearly, and that was normal.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
You bounced back pretty fast then, Yeah, it was pretty fast.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
But like, if you guys want to know what my
parents got me the year that it happened, which obviously
they shopped before the date.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I was never an action to your kid. I was like,
I was very much like a I want to play with,
like a dollhouse kid. Yeah, they bought me g I
Joe's and a g I Joe Jeep that year, the
year which is it's a weird fit for me anyway.
But then the coincidence of like I don't know it
(40:34):
was G I Joe in the army or whatever. Yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Wow, did you ever play with it?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I think I pushed the jeep around. I didn't really
play with G I Joe. Yeah, it was if it
was like girl, G I Joe.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Maybe you know what's funny is And so that was
your sixth birthday, you said.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
That was my that was the year of that was
my fifth birthday.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Fifth birthday, and so you were already like, dude, I'm
into dolls, not G I Joe's. Yeah, okay, you know
what's funny. So I never we never talked about this.
So I had this one had have I had this
one cousin, and this cousin was big into like my
little ponies, and he liked Madonna. When we used to
like like hip hop songs, like, he was all like,
no joke, like it was he was super young, and
(41:21):
we used to always joke because you're fucking eight years
old and you're dumb and you're whatever ignorant. We're like, oh,
he's gay, Like our cousin's gay, da da da, you know,
just just from going off those like telltale signs like
he doesn't like sports.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Like I don't be that. I don't think that like
indicates anything, but for some reason, it's like always a
good sign.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Right, And so because there was like four yeah, there
were four boy cousins and he's the only one that
liked Madonna and my little Pony had and like and
like all that stuff, and like we're like football soccer
swords like jump on each other and he's like no,
and like he was a little mama's boy, and we're like, oh,
he's gay. He's gay, like and then come to find
(42:03):
out later, yes he is. But it was almost like
like you said, like a telltale sign, like oh, we
he knew or we knew like way back when he
was four or five, six years old, just because of
how he would. I don't know, I don't know if
that's when it really happens or turns on, but it
when it turns on.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Like he just wake up one day and it's turned on, you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (42:26):
No, but that's so real because I remember being like
three or four and telling like my mom would ask
me like, oh, your favorite like person to listen to,
and I was like Britney fear.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, you know when you know, and for a lot
of people, they know right out the gate, they just
don't have a way of verbalizing or communicating it well.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
And then you have to suppress it from about ages
eight to eighteen. But that's fine.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That's sick. It's not fine. It's not fine. That sucks.
I feel I feel so bad for my cousin who
hid it for an extremely long amount of time, and
then we have we remember friends who hit it. I'm like,
you shouldn't have it.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
It's like you hide it, but at the same time,
everybody knows, but you just haven't like verbalized it out loud.
But it's like it happens almost every time. When I
watched the coming out videos, I could tell.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
My mom, Yeah, it was like, you know, she's like
pretty homophob books, but she's like, I knew that you
were gay when you were four, And I'm like, well,
then why didn't you say something?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Why didn't you tell me? You should have told me?
That's funny, all right, Well, we wanted to see, uh,
how you were celebrating your birthday today and make sure
you didn't forget.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
I never forget.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
We never forget, never forget.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Never forget see.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
The theme that Megan Tiner posted.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
No, I don't follow her. Yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Say it again?
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I said every gay gets her in their feed because
of Chris Olsen.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Oh that's funny. I don't even know who Chris Olsen.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Is me either.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
He's a TikToker and he's best friends with her.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Okay, also a gay agay, also one of us.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Yeah, I just wanted to clan. She posted like a
nine to eleven, happy nine to eleven to everybody day.
The people were freaking out. Y I always I saw
it in passing.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Happy nine to eleven is not the way to say it.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah, that's a weird way to word it, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Happy anniversary nine to eleven?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (44:32):
Weird? Yeah I would I would never.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
All right, well, happy birthday. Thanks for being part of
the podcast, and thanks for always helping out when that
reaches out to you.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Oh of course, and thank you thank you for having
me on you.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Guys, longtime listener, first time caller.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
All right, go back to sleep Man. Thanks again.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Okay, talk to dude, ma bed Man.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Now that was funny.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
He's so gay.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
All right, let's wrap this podcast up. Thank you for
streaming and watching our YouTube and following us on Instagram
at Strawberry and Lazette.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'm what's your name? At Lizette Love l i Z.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Holy crap, l i Z E T T.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
E l O V e E.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Did you forget that's what your name? Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Let's make a thing out what just happened.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
That was weird.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I am at Strawberry Radio. We will talk to you
next time. Be good to one another, please, all right.
Peace
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