December 11, 2025 • 35 mins
Football broadcaster, Charles Davis stops by to talk some football, from how much does he trust Sam Darnold in the post season, will the Seahawks see Philip Rivers Sunday, and much more. What's the route on the way to capture the number one seed, MJ breaks it all down, plus he shares his pick of the day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, he said that Washington has played in
more national titles in the last decade than Michigan.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Wrong, they both played in one. They both played in one,
and Michigan won that game. Washington has not played in
more than one national title in the last decade. They
made it to the playoffs, but they didn't make it
to the national championship game. History lessons. It's like I
got a school. I got a school, people. It's amazing
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to me. Then I get other people telling me Michigan
and Washington are very similar jobs. Really, Michigan has twelve
national titles. Washington has one that they split with my school.
The you are there similar now, I don't think so.
We all have different different definitions of blue bloods too.
I look at blue bloods. I looked at Michigan, Ohio, State, USC,
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Notre Dame. We have different definition of blue bloods. Apparently
we do. So I'll continue to school, but get your
fact straight when you text into the text line so
that I have to waste time because I have the
great Charles Davis on the line here with us. Charles,
I got a school, people. Man, It's unbelievable. I feel
like it's like there's always that inner part of me,
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that inner child in me, like takes me back to
the elementary school cafeteria and we'd be arguing, you know,
who's better. The cowboys are the forty nine ers, and
I just I can't get that out of me. It's
an issue I have to go to therapy for it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You don't need to go to therapy. It's just part
of part of the job, as you well know. And
for the most part, it kind of enjoyed sparring with people, Yeah,
because there's a chance to, as you said, school and educate.
Occasionally something boomerang's back at and you're like, WHOA hadn't
thought of it that way? That's pretty cool because the
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people do do do that for us. I think for
the most part, when we were fighting it out, cowboys
are forty nine ers a lot more subjective, right, Who
did you like, why'd you like them? So on and
so forth. Now, obviously during that time frame, forty nine
ers elevated and won Super Bowls, so that kind of
ended the argument in a lot of ways. But when
you're talking about who played in more national title games,
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who got to championships and all that, that's empirical. It's
right there in front of you the number so and yes,
And I think the person probably got confused because of
that too. Was it twenty sixteen with Big Browning and
crew when you got to the semis against Alabama was
a national title game? But they were one of the finals.
They were one of the four at the time, and
that was a heck of an accomplishment, a heck of
a season. But Michigan is a different job. I can
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say that. It doesn't have to be empirical, that's just historical.
It's a different job than than a Washington would be.
But that doesn't mean though, Wow, you know, there's nothing
to debate or talk about. Washington's a great job. Yep,
mission just comes with it. What comes with Michigan is
a lot more stuff. I mean, you're going back to
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field and hurry up Yost where you know Hunter would
drop a hundred on you if you could each and
every week. But that's the whole another story another time.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and that's one of the things. I mean you
saw a couple of years ago. I mean the run
that a magical run the Huskies had here Charles with
Kaitlin de Boor and Michael Pennis and a dune right
and then and then, but when the Yankees come calling
like Alabama did, and you got to take the place
of the goat, Nick Saban, it's tough to turn that down.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's hard to turn it down. There's just such a
you know, it's one of those things that you know,
frankly in your heart, boy, this is a this is
a heck of a mountain to climb, But coaches are competitors.
If I do climb it, though, and take my place
with Bear Bryant, with Frank Thomas, with Nick Saban, you know,
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with Gene Stallings, whoa, that's that's forever. Ye. Plus I'm
pretty sure the paycheck's pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But with that being said, though, Charles, let's face it.
Where they say the most the two most h well,
let's just say biggest fanatical and somewhat some people would
say psychotic fan bases are Alabama football and Kentucky basketball
fan You got to deal with that too.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, no question about it. And they have such a
you know, there's a there's a near connection. Because Bear
Bryant was coaching at Kentucky, that's right, and he got
them to a really good spot. I think they won
the SEC one year with him when he was there
and he leaves for Texas A and m okay, and
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everybody's like, well, what's going on. And the story that
came out of it was and it might be apocryphal,
but it fits, okay, so stay with me. Adolph Rupp
and his basketball team won an SEC title that year,
I think, and they gave Coach Rupp a new car.
Coach Bryant and his football team win an SEC title
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in football, and they gave him they gave him a
new watch. Difference just looked just a little bit different
right there, right now. I mean, I just remembered Commissioner
Roy Kramer, who gave us the BCS and the college
football playoffs, you know, put us on the path to that,
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and we just lost Commissioner as a mentor of mine.
And one time Mark I was doing sidelines for Jepson
Pilot before a Kentucky football game and he was down
the side lines. I was chatting with him. I said, Oh,
you're doing the ceremony today and he goes yeah, And
what was happening was the football field was being being
named that day. It is being named for C. M. Newton,
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the former great Alabama Vanderbilt basketball coach, now the athletic
director of Kentucky. He did a great job. And Commissioner
Kramer looked at me right before he walked out to
the midfield for the ceremony, and he said he always
called Mtali. He said, Tarlie. Only at Kentucky. But they
named the football field after a basketball coach.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's great, hey, Hey, Charles. I was lucky enough when
I was looking at schools. I was still undergrad but
I was looking at schools, and before I went to
my dream school, to you for my last masters. I
got my first masters at University of Georgia, and I
met Commissioner Kramer numerous times. He couldn't have been a
nicer gentleman. He was unbelieved was such a sweet man.
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And may he rest in peace. And I also was
fortunate enough to meet Mike'slive and Mike's Live Charles. I
was at SEC media Day one time and I said, man,
he came on the show and I was in Atlanta,
and he had the SEC pin on his lapel on
his suit. I said, boy, that is sharp. Do you
know what he did after the interview, He gave it
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to me, and then he gave it to me and
he said, and by the way, next, when you go
back to Atlanta, check out this Italian restaurant.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, I mean, come on, right, that's like Michael Carleone
giving you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, that's the Godfather, right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's totally on brand. That's totally on brand for
Commissioner Slive. And to go back and kind of tie
it all together about certain jobs you have to take,
right ye Commissioner Slive came from remember the old Metro
Conference yea, and then the Great Midwest. He was a
commissioner of both of those. When the SEC came calling,
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where are you going to go? You don't hesitate, so
you think of the line of succession SEC commissioners. And
I want to turn this into an SEC show, but
I think it ties into what you're talking about. Boyd
mcwater gave us Harvey Schiller, who was my mentor, who
gave us Roy Kramer, who was another mentor of mine,
who gave us Mike's Live, who gave us Greg Zanke.
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I mean, they when they hit that position, they bat
a thousand in that position. Each one of them did
certain things that people hadn't done before or advanced the conference.
And that's where they are. I mean, and we had
that with Jim Delaney in the Big ten, right Tony
Petiti trying to take over for Kevin Warren trying to
continue to advance the great line there and right on
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down the line. You know, I go back to Tom
Hansen for the PAC twelve, which was really I think
he was probably pack eight to pack ten back twelve,
and we've had we've had some some misses along the
way there and we lost the conference. It's coming back
in the new iteration, but it's not the it's not
the conference.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We know we are talking to the great and and I,
by the way, great doesn't sum him up. Charles Davis,
by the way, as great of a broadcaster as Charles's
And I know people will say this, but it doesn't.
Usually like you have no idea that peals into comparison
to the human being that he is. He's an amazing guy, Charles.
But I got it. I gotta say this when you
talk about you mentioned that tree, I want to go
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real quickly when you're talking about and look at the
Nick Saban and we apply it to this college football
current playoffs. Look at his staff. And then look at
this college football playoffs. Kirby's Mario Cristobal. Now you gotta
give Lane Kiffin credit because this is his Ole Miss team. Okay,
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that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And you ever heard of a guy by the name
of Kurt Signetti.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah? Absolutely, he worked under him too. Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And by the way, one guy who's right on the
outside looking in that was in the playoffs a lot
two years actually went to the semi final, was also
under Saban, by the name of Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah. Yeah, it's the heck of a tree, isn't it.
And most of those people have been touched not just
by let's say Nick Saban, but Kurt Signetti. You go
back to the second run at pitt for for my coach,
Johnny Majors. It wasn't a very successful run. I begged
the coach not to take that job because they weren't
ready for to make the moves necessary that they've made
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in recent years. But still Kurt Signetti worked for him there.
Kurtse Signetti will tell you, hey, Jim Haters told me this,
this is this, and boy did that play out right?
You know, Sarkisian and Kiffin, Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll calling plays,
doing things, and the whole deal. In fact, they tried
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to convince Coach Carroll wants to recruit one in Tebow,
and Coach Carroll told him, you got crazy. I mean
the kids in Florida were out in California and they
stayed on him and said, we got a shot. We
got a shot. So he agreed to get on the
plane to fly out there for a home visit. And
they flew from from LA to to Florida Gainesville, got
the rental car, drove up and when they got to
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the correct address, the mailbox was a gatorhead car and
Pete Carroll looked at both of them and said, you're
both fired. Before they even got into the room to
even talk.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Did they not know they do the homework.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The homework was every member of the Tebow family had
attended the University of Florida.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
By the way, did they not know that t Bow
was from Jacksonville, not Gainesville. It's a little further away.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Sorry, they went to the Okay, is.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Funny, Charles Dave, Hey, Charles, We've got a big game
coming up next Thursday night. But before we get there,
let's concentrate on Sunday and this Seattle Seahawks team, which
this defense best defense the NFL arguably along with a
team that came in here in October on the night
of the Mariners Game seven of the ALCS against Toronto
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the Houston Texans. But how is a forty four year
old quarterback Charles Davis, Philip Rivers, how are you gonna
put him on the field against an absolute vociferous defense
coach by Mike McDonald. It's like, to me, you're in
retirement and then you're gonna go jump off the Jaws
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Bridge with a bunch of great right sharks, not just one,
but a bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, you gotta mean more than a bigger boat, right right.
It seems so improbable, And that's why we're all gonna
tune in. Because sports can fool us. We've seen it
so many times. Ken Philip Rivers recreate the magic. I've
done my homework as you have. I'm sure a lot
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of people who are listening to our voices are like,
how in the heck? I mean? Steve de Berg is
probably the closest match I've come where Steve de Berg
was out of a game for like three years, went
back to Atlanta to be a backup. Had one start
during the season. It was abysmal, But that Atlanta team
was the team under Dan Reeves and went to the
Super Bowl and played Denver. But he was the backup. Okay,
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I think we all expect Philip Rivers to start on Sunday.
I think I'd be certain. I know I'll be surprised
if he doesn't start. Ups.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, you know what, Charles, I saw this, So I'm
gonna go ahead and tell you the most days between
quarterback starts of a DNP between since nineteen fifty okay and.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Eighty or something.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh no, no, no, okay, number three on the list. Number
three on the lists, Todd Bowman seven and fifty seven
starts for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Number two, John Reeves two
one and forty nine days between starts for Tampa Bay
and Numero Uno of all time, Frank Trapuca two thousand,
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eight hundred and twenty seven days between starts for the
Cleveland or Browns. Yeah, looks like the Browns or the
Broncos one of these. I can't tell the logo it's
so old.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But yeah, it's outstanding. Those are great numbers and very quickly,
well we'll bypass Dodd Bowman, not out of lack of
respect or anything like that. But the stories are better
with the other two. Okay, because the second one on
that lesson was that again Jean Reeves for the Tampa
Bay Don Thres, when you mentioned Tampa Bay, it wasn't
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the Buccaneers. He started for the Tampa Bay bandit in
the USFL. So that was that was a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And then and then you get up there to number one, which.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Was Frank Trapuka, Frank Chipuca.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Frank Schipuca has his number retired by the Denver Broncos,
a certain number eighteen that Peyton that his family gave
permission for Peyton Manning to wear eighteen with the Broncos.
And Frank Rapucca is the father of remember, oh threat,
that is correct.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Wow, God, I always learned something when you when I
talked to you. That is great.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's crazy, but it is, but it's crazy, it's really
you know. It's if we didn't have such respect for
Philip Rivers, I don't know that anyone would come out
and say anything. But because we respect Philip respect the
way he always played the game. We respect a guy
that played an ac at an eight FC championship game
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on a torn ACL. We respect the guy that went
fifteen years and didn't miss a start. He went two
hundred and forty consecutive starts before he retired. I was
I was on the broadcast team that did his last
game before this one, his playoff game up in Buffalo,
and he played well. They were down twenty four to ten.
He got him back to twenty four to twenty one,
had ball and the drives stalled him like the forty
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seven yard line and they know they go home. And
as the last time the Colts were in the playoffs,
they actually wanted him to come back the next year.
So we have that respect. It's just hard to really
say to yourself, Okay, forty four years old, truly off
the couch. And when we say off the couch, he's
not really at me. He's been coaching high school football,
but I don't think he's been working out the same
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way you would to prepare to start in the NFL.
And the play he knows the playbook. He's tight with Stich.
In the other comparison I would give you, and it's
a different comparison because it's not the same age. Remember
when Ryan Tannehill was in Miami and he blew his
knee out in training camp. Adam Gaze was the head coach,
and he made the immediate phone call for Jay Cutler,
who he'd had, who he had success with in Chicago.
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Jay had retired and was going to be the number
two color analyst at Fox Sports. He's going into the
booths for the first time. He gets the phone call
from Adam because Adam said, he knows I know, he
knows my playbook. We have a chance to win Biger
with him than I do with Matt Moore. He made
the call, and they made the offer, and j Cutler
reverse course and went in place for Miami Dolphins. Now
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totally different because he had just retired. Okay, he wasn't
all five years Okay, he wasn't forty four years old,
and it still didn't get them where they wanted to go,
which was playoffs. But these are the comparisons I have
racing through my head, like, how does this compare. It's
not Joe Flaccam coming back to the Browns for half
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a season and then going from place to place to
place because Joe Flackell hadn't been off for five years.
And by the way, Joe Flacco is still younger than
Philip Rivers, you know, and Philip Rivers has a grandchild. Yeah, okay,
so this is this is a this is a whole
different place than we've ever been. But we're all going
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to tune in. We're lucky our broadcast team would be
there to see it live. And I think the offensive
line has spent the entire is going to spend the
entire week telling each other to accept the challenge of
taking care of this guy. And that'll be interested see
how they play against one of the most fierce defenses
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Charles Davis breaking it down. I'm so glad you're coming
in here. I'll see you on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We will see we will see each other on Sunday.
Look forward.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Oh I can't wait it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And we're thrilled to be there. I mean, look, when
we got to sign this game, we were like wall
because it is a loaded week in the NFL. Everybody
just looks at the schedule. So we're the number four
broadcast team and we're going to get the Colts at Seahawks.
I tells you how loaded a week it is. Yep,
we're thrilled right in the time, from the time we
got the broadcast. Daniel Jones gets hurt, Raley Leonard gets hurt,
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Philip Rivers gets signed. Oh yeah, by the way, and
in the meantime, Seattle is not giving up a touchdown
the last eight quarters, they have more takeaways than they've
given up fifteen yard place in the last two weeks
eight to seven. They've given up nine points total in
the last I mean, just you know, you're just looking
at it. They are rounding into form. They have every
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just about everybody back on the field. Emn Wory is
probably the defensive player of the year in terms of
a big rookie, although the kid in Cleveland has been exceptional.
All right, the linebacker in Cleveland, he's been wonderful. But
even Worrior's playing on a much more high profile team,
and if he hadn't missed the first four games, we'd
really be having a fight on our hands. So he
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had to go on and on and on. But once again,
Philip Rivers, in the respect we have for him and
how he's played the game, that's the big reason why
we're all tuned in to see what is going to
truly happen.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And we can't wait. That's going to be amazing. And
here's the thing too. You look at the three losses
that the Seahawks have this year all to currently. Now
that could change after tonight, but currently three playoff teams,
the forty nine Ers, the Bucks and the Rams. And
the Rams game. To me, Charles, I've never been more
impressed by a team who their starting quarterback through four
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interceptions in that game against the ramsom speaking of Sam Darnold.
And at the end, at the end, if Brandon Aubrey
was the king, no disrespect to Jason Myers with Brandon
Aubrey can hit it from outside the stadium. But if
Brandon Aubrey was the kicker for the Seahawks in that game,
they win it on a walk off. So my thing
was this, I came away more impressed. I looked at it, Charles,
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to make a movie reference Rocky One, where at the
end you came away even though Apollo got the decision,
I came away more impressed that the Seahawks were Rocky
Balboa and that you knew. And the rematch which is
coming up next Thursday, night here in Seattle that they
didn't want any part of this Seahawks team. Again.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that because after that game,
I was doing a panel discussion and I mentioned Seattle.
I was like, look, after what I just saw this
past weekend, when a team can turn it over that
many times and have a field goal attempt to still
win the ball game, I like that team. That's a
team that knows how to hang. That's the team that
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knows how to get it done. And they maneuvered and
it was just sixty one yards. He's a little short
on that one, you know. I think sixty one is
his career long from twenty twenty. But you know, that's
a tough kid. I mean, I know people make I
know people are making field goals left and right now,
but if we've turned them into routine, they're not routine.
These are still long kicks. So all that being said,
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that rematch on Thursday night, the whole league is going
to be locked in on that ball.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Charles, that's the NFC West game. That's the NFC West
Divisional Championship game pretty much.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And and and number one seed.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah I know. And by the way, you.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I just saw about a division. Now you're talking about
playing for the number one for all and Seattle when
they've had the number one seed three times every time
they've advanced to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That is a great statistic. And Charles, here's the thing, though,
don't count out that team in the Bay Area, Man,
that team, no matter how much adversity they go through,
that Burgundiane Gold team down there in San Francisco, Santa Clara,
you cannot count them out. They continue to keep coming
and you just can't. They're like cockroaches. You can't kill them.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You can't kill them now. And remember last year they
went through all that adversity and couldn't stay with it, right,
it wasn't the same for them this year. Through the adversity.
Still there three teams from one division that are right
now in the playoffs. If we started today, Rams will
be the one seed, forty nine ers to six seeds,
Seattle the five seed, and still plenty of movement left.
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And I think we all believe that all three of
them are going to find their way in which they've
done before as recently as what he's done twenty two. Yep,
we had all three in so wouldn't surprise anyone. If
all three get in again, it's just a matter of
what the seeding's going to be. And Thursday night, you know,
if I give me the Seahawks take care business sun
deck as kind of expected, although a few weeks ago
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we would look at this game, going, my god, with
a titanic game, right, Indianapolis average thirty plus points for games,
Seattle average thirty bus points. Defense playing well for Seattle.
Can you stop Jonathan Taylor, Daniel Jones having a renaissance
here and boys quick in this league? So month said
to me the other day they went all fairs bueller
on me, life comes at your fat That does it?
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Does any changes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, you look at right now, Charles, in the league
that the Minnesota Vikings lead the league in the most turnovers,
and right behind the Vikings in the top six, yep,
are the Seattle Seahawks with twenty three. So to me,
what that says to me is that, Wow, this defense
must be even more exceptional because they have to deal
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with the fact that their quarterback is amongst the league
leaders in turnovers and you've turned the ball over twenty
three times. So if you just can mitigate or eliminate
those turnovers. Just imagine how great this team could really be.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Jam Donald in his career. It's the fifth time he
said sixteen or more giveaways. Okay, but he's still having
an exceptional season. You know, you feel good about him.
That defense is taking them all away twenty one times to
help mitigate the twenty three giveaways offense. At so they
are minus two, which normally you're like, oh, minus two,
we won't be better than that. It's actually pretty good
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considering what they're the battling all year is. It's actually exceptional.
So we'll see how it all plays out before the
end of the year. But see ie understands what their
mission is, take care of the football. Don't have those
nights where you have the ten plus penalties, right and
when they do that, they're pretty hard to beat.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Final thought four, I let you go scale one to ten,
ten being the most. How much do you trust Sam
Darnold to win must win playoff games in January? On
a scale one to ten, you can put a decimal
point after it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, right now, right now, you'd have to put it
at a five because he just hasn't done it yet.
I think the opportunity is there like you have to
keep going into the ring to have your opportunities. And
I'll just put it to you this way, Mark, I'm
not making any comparisons whatsoever, but one of the best
quarterbacks we've ever had in our lifetime in any time
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this ever grace to feel. Peyton Manning had a lot
of playoff issues before they filed, before he finally broke through.
Sometimes you have to go through it all right, And
I know it gets frustrating for people, and people say
you never can do it. I'd never say never. With
guys who have as much talent as Sam Darnold has,
He's got to just keep going in there, taking his
shots and going. But you remember those time frames when
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people were saying Peyton will never win the big one. Yeah,
turned out he did twice, so you know you can
get through. But even the great ones can have some
trouble come playoff time.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Very well said, have a safe trip up from the
Sunshine States. Don't expect bomby skies when you get here now,
but I did.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I did my weather dot Com. I've been checking weather.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I gotta be nice anytime you're in Seattle. It's just fun.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Absolutely it's such a great place. And I will tell
you this, there's gonna be a ferocious defense, and uh,
they're gonna be getting. It's gonna be getting. They're gonna
begin after a forty possibly a forty four year old
grandfather on Sunday. I can't believe I'm literally saying that,
but that's going to happen on Sunday. Charles Davis. Always
great to see you, can't We'll see you on Sunday
and can't wait to have you on the call.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Look forward to Marco's grip chatting with your happy holidays
everyone out there. Hanka begins on Sunday, and then we're
about two weeks away from Christmas.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Here we go, Here we go. All right, Charles B.
Well Man, We'll see you Sunday, Thank you very much.
All right, all right, Charles Davis here on MJ in
the midday. It's uh wow, what's it gonna take though
for the Seahawks to get the number one seed ahead
of the playoffs starting in January. We'll get to that
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next MJ in the Midday and Christopher Kidd and yes,
the Texters like, oh I got excited. Yeah, it's right.
It was the semi finals. It wasn't. Now It's like
I know, like you you know, dude, are you gonna
talk facts on me? Especially when it comes to college football,
Like you know, like you said, you better get a
bigger boat, you better wake up really early, you know,
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I mean it's you know, you know, I mean, say
my first rodeo there, cowboy, all right. Mike Dugar wrote
a really good article in The Athletic about the Hawks
in terms of them getting the one seed, Seattle's odds
of making the playoffs right now, I like this ninety
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eight percent. According to the Athletics Playoff simulator, the final
four games are against This is all quoted by Mike Dugar.
The final four games are against teams with winning records,
toughest schedule remaining in the NFL. Hawks os the eight
and five Colts on Sunday. Of course, they just lost
Daniel Jones. We know, Pepa, forty four year old Philip Rivers,
that's what they call them for Grandpa, that's what he's
called by his grandkid. Then, of course, to me, what
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more than likely could be the NFC West Divisional Championship
game a week from tonight at Loomenfield. Then you have
road games at winning record Carolina in nine and four
San Francisco, So the Seahawks, Rams and forty nine Ers
all have playoff odds at least ninety four percent, But
the Rams have a better divisional title chances to win.
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The Rams right now have a fifty seven percent chance
to win the division, Seattle at thirty one percent San
Francisco at eleven. Rams host the Lions Sunday, and then
of course come here to Seattle. Here's what, And then
they face the Falcons on the road, which, of course
what the Hawks just did, and they closed the regular
season at home against Arizona. Couldn't get any easier than that.
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Forty nine Ers, they are idle in week fourteen. That
should never happen again. No team should be idle after
week thirteen. Their final four games are against Tennessee at home,
on the road against the Colts, home against the Bears,
and then a rematch with the Hawks. But this one's
gonna be at the site of Super Bowl sixty Levi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I'm looking at this right now, and then he mentions
one more thing. The NFC West winner has a decent
shot at snagging home field advantage. Throughout the playoffs. The
Rams right now currently have the best odds at forty
eight percent, followed by the Seahawks at twenty nine percent
to get the one seed, then the Packers at ten percent,
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and the forty nine Ers at eight percent. No other
NFC team has odds above four percent. So here's the thing.
I mean, for the Hawks, you've got molecular biology, organic chemistry,
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nuclear physics, and you don't have There's no ballroom dancing,
there's no courses that Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush took
their final years at USC left on the Hawks schedule,
maybe except for Sunday, But even then, this is a
team coming in so they got a winning record and
they could be a playoff team. I mean, they've kind
of fallen and now without the guy that led them
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to the winning record, led them to being a potential
playoff team. It doesn't look like but the Hawks have
a team with a winning record for the rest of
the season. All I know is this, if the Lions
can pull off the upset on Sunday and shock Holts
surf here in Seattle, and then next Thursday night everything
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goes our way against the Rams. I believe at that
point the Hawks. I mean, you're in the driver's seat
at that point, you're in the driver's seat. But there's
still that looming game at the end of the year
at Levi Stadium. Remember last year Geno Smith on the
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walk off? Remember that at Levi Stadium. So I like
what Mike says in this article. And but how about this.
The Seahawks, the Rams, and the forty nine ers all
have playoff odds of at least ninety four percent to
make the postseason. Three teams in one division. That's insane.
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That's unbelievable. Now, NFC North is pretty good too, except
for the Vikes. The Vikes suck, but so they got
the Bears, the Packers and the Lions, so they're also
that's a pretty damn good division as well. But the
best thing is that as long as Mike McDonald aiden
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Dirtey and Clint Kubiak and this team and this defense
takes care of business on the field, you don't have
to worry about scoreboard watching. You don't have to worry
about out, Oh you need this team to help out
that day. You don't need Texas Tech to be BYU right,
like a certain team that I know needed on Saturday,
don't need any help. Just take care of your business
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in front of you, and everything will take care of itself.
And then the Hawks on wild card weekend could be
sitting at home with a buye waiting for the lowest
seed to advance to come here in Seattle in divisional
playoff weekend, And that, to me is great. But I
will tell you if Kid, and I'm hoping he's wrong.
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But if Kid is right and the Rams win next
Thursday night here in Seattle, Kid's already calling it, and
that could happen. Listen, They're undefeated. They're undefeated with Matthew
Stafford and Sean mcva against the Hawks. It's non opinion.
It's a fact, just like it's a fact that Michigan
has twelve national championships and Washington has won, which they
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split with the U. It's a fact. Doesn't care about
your feelings, that's a fact. The Seattle Seahawks have not
beaten the Rams with Matthew Stafford playing in the game.
If they can overcome this next Thursday night, it's wonderful.
But if they don't, then you go wild card and
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you drop to maybe the five, and then all of
a sudden things start to change a little bit, things
start to change. So take care of business on Sunday,
and then next Thursday night is epic. I heard Stubb.
I don't even know what they're going for. I heard
they're going for like three to five thousand dollars next
Thursday night to get in the stadium, not for like,
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you know, nosebleeds, but I heard it's just insane. Next
Thursday night is everything. But we got to take care
of business on Sunday because that's you lose on Sunday.
Guess what division gone? One seed gone? And then all
of a sudden, you're you know, you're a five or six?
Could you win in Tampa?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Could you winning Carolina. There's a chance if the Hawks
don't take care of business against the Colts and the Rams,
then they could be going on the road to face
Carolina twice in three weeks. That could happen. Carolina wins
that division, you go to Carolina. So there's a lot
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of things. It's a fluid situation. A lot of things
that I play last night, say what you want, say
what you will about the four Letter Network. Last night
was something special going to pay tribute to the Late
Great Stuart Scott. Next MJ in the midday, Lincoln Kennedy
at noon.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
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Speaker 1 (33:59):
All right, before we get to the Great Stewart, the
lates Great Stewart Scott. Ah, this is a tough one, man,
I mean, you know, this is a tough card. This
week it's mostly pro. I'm not touching Army Navy. I'm
not touching Washington versus Boise State. I don't. I couldn't
get a exact feel in either one of those games.
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So I'm gonna stay I'm gonna steer clear of that.
So this week when I'm gonna go with, I think
it's gonna be a very very high scoring affair in
Detroit with the Rams and the Lions. And I'm gonna
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take in that game. I'm gonna give you Jamier Gibbs,
Jamiir Gibbs in that game over receiving yards. Jamiir Gibbs
over receiving yards in the game of the Lions and
the Rams. I think Jared Goff, you know, the Rams
gotta good defense. You're gonna need Gibbs. He's one of
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the best ers, if not the best receiving back. He
might be the best weapon in the National Football League.
So gimme Jamiir Gibbs over receiving yards. Bet it now,
wait for it, wait for it, Thank me later, all right.
We will get to Stuart Scott coming up. Eventually. We
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didn't have time, so we had to get to my pick.
I gotta get to this because they had the thirty
for thirty documentary on Stuart Scott last night, which was
so awesome and so emotional boo yah what it was called.
And to see all the people pay homage and tribute
to the lake great Stuart Scott was amazing. Lincoln Kennedy
a great former Washington Husky, All American and NFL pro bowler.
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We'll talk to him coming up next MJ in the
midday
First of all, he said that Washington has played in
more national titles in the last decade than Michigan.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Wrong, they both played in one. They both played in one,
and Michigan won that game. Washington has not played in
more than one national title in the last decade. They
made it to the playoffs, but they didn't make it
to the national championship game. History lessons. It's like I
got a school. I got a school, people. It's amazing
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to me. Then I get other people telling me Michigan
and Washington are very similar jobs. Really, Michigan has twelve
national titles. Washington has one that they split with my school.
The you are there similar now, I don't think so.
We all have different different definitions of blue bloods too.
I look at blue bloods. I looked at Michigan, Ohio, State, USC,
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Notre Dame. We have different definition of blue bloods. Apparently
we do. So I'll continue to school, but get your
fact straight when you text into the text line so
that I have to waste time because I have the
great Charles Davis on the line here with us. Charles,
I got a school, people. Man, It's unbelievable. I feel
like it's like there's always that inner part of me,
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that inner child in me, like takes me back to
the elementary school cafeteria and we'd be arguing, you know,
who's better. The cowboys are the forty nine ers, and
I just I can't get that out of me. It's
an issue I have to go to therapy for it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You don't need to go to therapy. It's just part
of part of the job, as you well know. And
for the most part, it kind of enjoyed sparring with people, Yeah,
because there's a chance to, as you said, school and educate.
Occasionally something boomerang's back at and you're like, WHOA hadn't
thought of it that way? That's pretty cool because the
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people do do do that for us. I think for
the most part, when we were fighting it out, cowboys
are forty nine ers a lot more subjective, right, Who
did you like, why'd you like them? So on and
so forth. Now, obviously during that time frame, forty nine
ers elevated and won Super Bowls, so that kind of
ended the argument in a lot of ways. But when
you're talking about who played in more national title games,
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who got to championships and all that, that's empirical. It's
right there in front of you the number so and yes,
And I think the person probably got confused because of
that too. Was it twenty sixteen with Big Browning and
crew when you got to the semis against Alabama was
a national title game? But they were one of the finals.
They were one of the four at the time, and
that was a heck of an accomplishment, a heck of
a season. But Michigan is a different job. I can
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say that. It doesn't have to be empirical, that's just historical.
It's a different job than than a Washington would be.
But that doesn't mean though, Wow, you know, there's nothing
to debate or talk about. Washington's a great job. Yep,
mission just comes with it. What comes with Michigan is
a lot more stuff. I mean, you're going back to
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field and hurry up Yost where you know Hunter would
drop a hundred on you if you could each and
every week. But that's the whole another story another time.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and that's one of the things. I mean you
saw a couple of years ago. I mean the run
that a magical run the Huskies had here Charles with
Kaitlin de Boor and Michael Pennis and a dune right
and then and then, but when the Yankees come calling
like Alabama did, and you got to take the place
of the goat, Nick Saban, it's tough to turn that down.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's hard to turn it down. There's just such a
you know, it's one of those things that you know,
frankly in your heart, boy, this is a this is
a heck of a mountain to climb, But coaches are competitors.
If I do climb it, though, and take my place
with Bear Bryant, with Frank Thomas, with Nick Saban, you know,
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with Gene Stallings, whoa, that's that's forever. Ye. Plus I'm
pretty sure the paycheck's pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But with that being said, though, Charles, let's face it.
Where they say the most the two most h well,
let's just say biggest fanatical and somewhat some people would
say psychotic fan bases are Alabama football and Kentucky basketball
fan You got to deal with that too.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, no question about it. And they have such a
you know, there's a there's a near connection. Because Bear
Bryant was coaching at Kentucky, that's right, and he got
them to a really good spot. I think they won
the SEC one year with him when he was there
and he leaves for Texas A and m okay, and
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everybody's like, well, what's going on. And the story that
came out of it was and it might be apocryphal,
but it fits, okay, so stay with me. Adolph Rupp
and his basketball team won an SEC title that year,
I think, and they gave Coach Rupp a new car.
Coach Bryant and his football team win an SEC title
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in football, and they gave him they gave him a
new watch. Difference just looked just a little bit different
right there, right now. I mean, I just remembered Commissioner
Roy Kramer, who gave us the BCS and the college
football playoffs, you know, put us on the path to that,
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and we just lost Commissioner as a mentor of mine.
And one time Mark I was doing sidelines for Jepson
Pilot before a Kentucky football game and he was down
the side lines. I was chatting with him. I said, Oh,
you're doing the ceremony today and he goes yeah, And
what was happening was the football field was being being
named that day. It is being named for C. M. Newton,
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the former great Alabama Vanderbilt basketball coach, now the athletic
director of Kentucky. He did a great job. And Commissioner
Kramer looked at me right before he walked out to
the midfield for the ceremony, and he said he always
called Mtali. He said, Tarlie. Only at Kentucky. But they
named the football field after a basketball coach.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's great, hey, Hey, Charles. I was lucky enough when
I was looking at schools. I was still undergrad but
I was looking at schools, and before I went to
my dream school, to you for my last masters. I
got my first masters at University of Georgia, and I
met Commissioner Kramer numerous times. He couldn't have been a
nicer gentleman. He was unbelieved was such a sweet man.
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And may he rest in peace. And I also was
fortunate enough to meet Mike'slive and Mike's Live Charles. I
was at SEC media Day one time and I said, man,
he came on the show and I was in Atlanta,
and he had the SEC pin on his lapel on
his suit. I said, boy, that is sharp. Do you
know what he did after the interview, He gave it
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to me, and then he gave it to me and
he said, and by the way, next, when you go
back to Atlanta, check out this Italian restaurant.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, I mean, come on, right, that's like Michael Carleone
giving you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, that's the Godfather, right.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's totally on brand. That's totally on brand for
Commissioner Slive. And to go back and kind of tie
it all together about certain jobs you have to take,
right ye Commissioner Slive came from remember the old Metro
Conference yea, and then the Great Midwest. He was a
commissioner of both of those. When the SEC came calling,
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where are you going to go? You don't hesitate, so
you think of the line of succession SEC commissioners. And
I want to turn this into an SEC show, but
I think it ties into what you're talking about. Boyd
mcwater gave us Harvey Schiller, who was my mentor, who
gave us Roy Kramer, who was another mentor of mine,
who gave us Mike's Live, who gave us Greg Zanke.
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I mean, they when they hit that position, they bat
a thousand in that position. Each one of them did
certain things that people hadn't done before or advanced the conference.
And that's where they are. I mean, and we had
that with Jim Delaney in the Big ten, right Tony
Petiti trying to take over for Kevin Warren trying to
continue to advance the great line there and right on
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down the line. You know, I go back to Tom
Hansen for the PAC twelve, which was really I think
he was probably pack eight to pack ten back twelve,
and we've had we've had some some misses along the
way there and we lost the conference. It's coming back
in the new iteration, but it's not the it's not
the conference.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
We know we are talking to the great and and I,
by the way, great doesn't sum him up. Charles Davis,
by the way, as great of a broadcaster as Charles's
And I know people will say this, but it doesn't.
Usually like you have no idea that peals into comparison
to the human being that he is. He's an amazing guy, Charles.
But I got it. I gotta say this when you
talk about you mentioned that tree, I want to go
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real quickly when you're talking about and look at the
Nick Saban and we apply it to this college football
current playoffs. Look at his staff. And then look at
this college football playoffs. Kirby's Mario Cristobal. Now you gotta
give Lane Kiffin credit because this is his Ole Miss team. Okay,
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that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And you ever heard of a guy by the name
of Kurt Signetti.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah? Absolutely, he worked under him too. Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And by the way, one guy who's right on the
outside looking in that was in the playoffs a lot
two years actually went to the semi final, was also
under Saban, by the name of Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah. Yeah, it's the heck of a tree, isn't it.
And most of those people have been touched not just
by let's say Nick Saban, but Kurt Signetti. You go
back to the second run at pitt for for my coach,
Johnny Majors. It wasn't a very successful run. I begged
the coach not to take that job because they weren't
ready for to make the moves necessary that they've made
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in recent years. But still Kurt Signetti worked for him there.
Kurtse Signetti will tell you, hey, Jim Haters told me this,
this is this, and boy did that play out right?
You know, Sarkisian and Kiffin, Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll calling plays,
doing things, and the whole deal. In fact, they tried
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to convince Coach Carroll wants to recruit one in Tebow,
and Coach Carroll told him, you got crazy. I mean
the kids in Florida were out in California and they
stayed on him and said, we got a shot. We
got a shot. So he agreed to get on the
plane to fly out there for a home visit. And
they flew from from LA to to Florida Gainesville, got
the rental car, drove up and when they got to
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the correct address, the mailbox was a gatorhead car and
Pete Carroll looked at both of them and said, you're
both fired. Before they even got into the room to
even talk.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Did they not know they do the homework.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The homework was every member of the Tebow family had
attended the University of Florida.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
By the way, did they not know that t Bow
was from Jacksonville, not Gainesville. It's a little further away.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Sorry, they went to the Okay, is.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Funny, Charles Dave, Hey, Charles, We've got a big game
coming up next Thursday night. But before we get there,
let's concentrate on Sunday and this Seattle Seahawks team, which
this defense best defense the NFL arguably along with a
team that came in here in October on the night
of the Mariners Game seven of the ALCS against Toronto
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the Houston Texans. But how is a forty four year
old quarterback Charles Davis, Philip Rivers, how are you gonna
put him on the field against an absolute vociferous defense
coach by Mike McDonald. It's like, to me, you're in
retirement and then you're gonna go jump off the Jaws
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Bridge with a bunch of great right sharks, not just one,
but a bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, you gotta mean more than a bigger boat, right right.
It seems so improbable, And that's why we're all gonna
tune in. Because sports can fool us. We've seen it
so many times. Ken Philip Rivers recreate the magic. I've
done my homework as you have. I'm sure a lot
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of people who are listening to our voices are like,
how in the heck? I mean? Steve de Berg is
probably the closest match I've come where Steve de Berg
was out of a game for like three years, went
back to Atlanta to be a backup. Had one start
during the season. It was abysmal, But that Atlanta team
was the team under Dan Reeves and went to the
Super Bowl and played Denver. But he was the backup. Okay,
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I think we all expect Philip Rivers to start on Sunday.
I think I'd be certain. I know I'll be surprised
if he doesn't start. Ups.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, you know what, Charles, I saw this, So I'm
gonna go ahead and tell you the most days between
quarterback starts of a DNP between since nineteen fifty okay and.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Eighty or something.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh no, no, no, okay, number three on the list. Number
three on the lists, Todd Bowman seven and fifty seven
starts for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Number two, John Reeves two
one and forty nine days between starts for Tampa Bay
and Numero Uno of all time, Frank Trapuca two thousand,
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eight hundred and twenty seven days between starts for the
Cleveland or Browns. Yeah, looks like the Browns or the
Broncos one of these. I can't tell the logo it's
so old.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But yeah, it's outstanding. Those are great numbers and very quickly,
well we'll bypass Dodd Bowman, not out of lack of
respect or anything like that. But the stories are better
with the other two. Okay, because the second one on
that lesson was that again Jean Reeves for the Tampa
Bay Don Thres, when you mentioned Tampa Bay, it wasn't
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the Buccaneers. He started for the Tampa Bay bandit in
the USFL. So that was that was a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And then and then you get up there to number one, which.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Was Frank Trapuka, Frank Chipuca.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Frank Schipuca has his number retired by the Denver Broncos,
a certain number eighteen that Peyton that his family gave
permission for Peyton Manning to wear eighteen with the Broncos.
And Frank Rapucca is the father of remember, oh threat,
that is correct.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Wow, God, I always learned something when you when I
talked to you. That is great.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's crazy, but it is, but it's crazy, it's really
you know. It's if we didn't have such respect for
Philip Rivers, I don't know that anyone would come out
and say anything. But because we respect Philip respect the
way he always played the game. We respect a guy
that played an ac at an eight FC championship game
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on a torn ACL. We respect the guy that went
fifteen years and didn't miss a start. He went two
hundred and forty consecutive starts before he retired. I was
I was on the broadcast team that did his last
game before this one, his playoff game up in Buffalo,
and he played well. They were down twenty four to ten.
He got him back to twenty four to twenty one,
had ball and the drives stalled him like the forty
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seven yard line and they know they go home. And
as the last time the Colts were in the playoffs,
they actually wanted him to come back the next year.
So we have that respect. It's just hard to really
say to yourself, Okay, forty four years old, truly off
the couch. And when we say off the couch, he's
not really at me. He's been coaching high school football,
but I don't think he's been working out the same
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way you would to prepare to start in the NFL.
And the play he knows the playbook. He's tight with Stich.
In the other comparison I would give you, and it's
a different comparison because it's not the same age. Remember
when Ryan Tannehill was in Miami and he blew his
knee out in training camp. Adam Gaze was the head coach,
and he made the immediate phone call for Jay Cutler,
who he'd had, who he had success with in Chicago.
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Jay had retired and was going to be the number
two color analyst at Fox Sports. He's going into the
booths for the first time. He gets the phone call
from Adam because Adam said, he knows I know, he
knows my playbook. We have a chance to win Biger
with him than I do with Matt Moore. He made
the call, and they made the offer, and j Cutler
reverse course and went in place for Miami Dolphins. Now
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totally different because he had just retired. Okay, he wasn't
all five years Okay, he wasn't forty four years old,
and it still didn't get them where they wanted to go,
which was playoffs. But these are the comparisons I have
racing through my head, like, how does this compare. It's
not Joe Flaccam coming back to the Browns for half
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a season and then going from place to place to
place because Joe Flackell hadn't been off for five years.
And by the way, Joe Flacco is still younger than
Philip Rivers, you know, and Philip Rivers has a grandchild. Yeah, okay,
so this is this is a this is a whole
different place than we've ever been. But we're all going
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to tune in. We're lucky our broadcast team would be
there to see it live. And I think the offensive
line has spent the entire is going to spend the
entire week telling each other to accept the challenge of
taking care of this guy. And that'll be interested see
how they play against one of the most fierce defenses
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Charles Davis breaking it down. I'm so glad you're coming
in here. I'll see you on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We will see we will see each other on Sunday.
Look forward.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Oh I can't wait it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And we're thrilled to be there. I mean, look, when
we got to sign this game, we were like wall
because it is a loaded week in the NFL. Everybody
just looks at the schedule. So we're the number four
broadcast team and we're going to get the Colts at Seahawks.
I tells you how loaded a week it is. Yep,
we're thrilled right in the time, from the time we
got the broadcast. Daniel Jones gets hurt, Raley Leonard gets hurt,
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Philip Rivers gets signed. Oh yeah, by the way, and
in the meantime, Seattle is not giving up a touchdown
the last eight quarters, they have more takeaways than they've
given up fifteen yard place in the last two weeks
eight to seven. They've given up nine points total in
the last I mean, just you know, you're just looking
at it. They are rounding into form. They have every
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just about everybody back on the field. Emn Wory is
probably the defensive player of the year in terms of
a big rookie, although the kid in Cleveland has been exceptional.
All right, the linebacker in Cleveland, he's been wonderful. But
even Worrior's playing on a much more high profile team,
and if he hadn't missed the first four games, we'd
really be having a fight on our hands. So he
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had to go on and on and on. But once again,
Philip Rivers, in the respect we have for him and
how he's played the game, that's the big reason why
we're all tuned in to see what is going to
truly happen.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And we can't wait. That's going to be amazing. And
here's the thing too. You look at the three losses
that the Seahawks have this year all to currently. Now
that could change after tonight, but currently three playoff teams,
the forty nine Ers, the Bucks and the Rams. And
the Rams game. To me, Charles, I've never been more
impressed by a team who their starting quarterback through four
(19:01):
interceptions in that game against the ramsom speaking of Sam Darnold.
And at the end, at the end, if Brandon Aubrey
was the king, no disrespect to Jason Myers with Brandon
Aubrey can hit it from outside the stadium. But if
Brandon Aubrey was the kicker for the Seahawks in that game,
they win it on a walk off. So my thing
was this, I came away more impressed. I looked at it, Charles,
(19:24):
to make a movie reference Rocky One, where at the
end you came away even though Apollo got the decision,
I came away more impressed that the Seahawks were Rocky
Balboa and that you knew. And the rematch which is
coming up next Thursday, night here in Seattle that they
didn't want any part of this Seahawks team. Again.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that because after that game,
I was doing a panel discussion and I mentioned Seattle.
I was like, look, after what I just saw this
past weekend, when a team can turn it over that
many times and have a field goal attempt to still
win the ball game, I like that team. That's a
team that knows how to hang. That's the team that
(20:08):
knows how to get it done. And they maneuvered and
it was just sixty one yards. He's a little short
on that one, you know. I think sixty one is
his career long from twenty twenty. But you know, that's
a tough kid. I mean, I know people make I
know people are making field goals left and right now,
but if we've turned them into routine, they're not routine.
These are still long kicks. So all that being said,
(20:30):
that rematch on Thursday night, the whole league is going
to be locked in on that ball.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Charles, that's the NFC West game. That's the NFC West
Divisional Championship game pretty much.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And and and number one seed.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah I know. And by the way, you.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I just saw about a division. Now you're talking about
playing for the number one for all and Seattle when
they've had the number one seed three times every time
they've advanced to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That is a great statistic. And Charles, here's the thing, though,
don't count out that team in the Bay Area, Man,
that team, no matter how much adversity they go through,
that Burgundiane Gold team down there in San Francisco, Santa Clara,
you cannot count them out. They continue to keep coming
and you just can't. They're like cockroaches. You can't kill them.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You can't kill them now. And remember last year they
went through all that adversity and couldn't stay with it, right,
it wasn't the same for them this year. Through the adversity.
Still there three teams from one division that are right
now in the playoffs. If we started today, Rams will
be the one seed, forty nine ers to six seeds,
Seattle the five seed, and still plenty of movement left.
(21:39):
And I think we all believe that all three of
them are going to find their way in which they've
done before as recently as what he's done twenty two. Yep,
we had all three in so wouldn't surprise anyone. If
all three get in again, it's just a matter of
what the seeding's going to be. And Thursday night, you know,
if I give me the Seahawks take care business sun
deck as kind of expected, although a few weeks ago
(22:02):
we would look at this game, going, my god, with
a titanic game, right, Indianapolis average thirty plus points for games,
Seattle average thirty bus points. Defense playing well for Seattle.
Can you stop Jonathan Taylor, Daniel Jones having a renaissance
here and boys quick in this league? So month said
to me the other day they went all fairs bueller
on me, life comes at your fat That does it?
(22:23):
Does any changes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, you look at right now, Charles, in the league
that the Minnesota Vikings lead the league in the most turnovers,
and right behind the Vikings in the top six, yep,
are the Seattle Seahawks with twenty three. So to me,
what that says to me is that, Wow, this defense
must be even more exceptional because they have to deal
(22:45):
with the fact that their quarterback is amongst the league
leaders in turnovers and you've turned the ball over twenty
three times. So if you just can mitigate or eliminate
those turnovers. Just imagine how great this team could really be.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Jam Donald in his career. It's the fifth time he
said sixteen or more giveaways. Okay, but he's still having
an exceptional season. You know, you feel good about him.
That defense is taking them all away twenty one times to
help mitigate the twenty three giveaways offense. At so they
are minus two, which normally you're like, oh, minus two,
we won't be better than that. It's actually pretty good
(23:27):
considering what they're the battling all year is. It's actually exceptional.
So we'll see how it all plays out before the
end of the year. But see ie understands what their
mission is, take care of the football. Don't have those
nights where you have the ten plus penalties, right and
when they do that, they're pretty hard to beat.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Final thought four, I let you go scale one to ten,
ten being the most. How much do you trust Sam
Darnold to win must win playoff games in January? On
a scale one to ten, you can put a decimal
point after it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, right now, right now, you'd have to put it
at a five because he just hasn't done it yet.
I think the opportunity is there like you have to
keep going into the ring to have your opportunities. And
I'll just put it to you this way, Mark, I'm
not making any comparisons whatsoever, but one of the best
quarterbacks we've ever had in our lifetime in any time
(24:18):
this ever grace to feel. Peyton Manning had a lot
of playoff issues before they filed, before he finally broke through.
Sometimes you have to go through it all right, And
I know it gets frustrating for people, and people say
you never can do it. I'd never say never. With
guys who have as much talent as Sam Darnold has,
He's got to just keep going in there, taking his
shots and going. But you remember those time frames when
(24:39):
people were saying Peyton will never win the big one. Yeah,
turned out he did twice, so you know you can
get through. But even the great ones can have some
trouble come playoff time.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Very well said, have a safe trip up from the
Sunshine States. Don't expect bomby skies when you get here now,
but I did.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I did my weather dot Com. I've been checking weather.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I gotta be nice anytime you're in Seattle. It's just fun.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Absolutely it's such a great place. And I will tell
you this, there's gonna be a ferocious defense, and uh,
they're gonna be getting. It's gonna be getting. They're gonna
begin after a forty possibly a forty four year old
grandfather on Sunday. I can't believe I'm literally saying that,
but that's going to happen on Sunday. Charles Davis. Always
great to see you, can't We'll see you on Sunday
and can't wait to have you on the call.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Look forward to Marco's grip chatting with your happy holidays
everyone out there. Hanka begins on Sunday, and then we're
about two weeks away from Christmas.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Here we go, Here we go. All right, Charles B.
Well Man, We'll see you Sunday, Thank you very much.
All right, all right, Charles Davis here on MJ in
the midday. It's uh wow, what's it gonna take though
for the Seahawks to get the number one seed ahead
of the playoffs starting in January. We'll get to that
(26:00):
next MJ in the Midday and Christopher Kidd and yes,
the Texters like, oh I got excited. Yeah, it's right.
It was the semi finals. It wasn't. Now It's like
I know, like you you know, dude, are you gonna
talk facts on me? Especially when it comes to college football,
Like you know, like you said, you better get a
bigger boat, you better wake up really early, you know,
(26:20):
I mean it's you know, you know, I mean, say
my first rodeo there, cowboy, all right. Mike Dugar wrote
a really good article in The Athletic about the Hawks
in terms of them getting the one seed, Seattle's odds
of making the playoffs right now, I like this ninety
(26:40):
eight percent. According to the Athletics Playoff simulator, the final
four games are against This is all quoted by Mike Dugar.
The final four games are against teams with winning records,
toughest schedule remaining in the NFL. Hawks os the eight
and five Colts on Sunday. Of course, they just lost
Daniel Jones. We know, Pepa, forty four year old Philip Rivers,
that's what they call them for Grandpa, that's what he's
called by his grandkid. Then, of course, to me, what
(27:04):
more than likely could be the NFC West Divisional Championship
game a week from tonight at Loomenfield. Then you have
road games at winning record Carolina in nine and four
San Francisco, So the Seahawks, Rams and forty nine Ers
all have playoff odds at least ninety four percent, But
the Rams have a better divisional title chances to win.
(27:29):
The Rams right now have a fifty seven percent chance
to win the division, Seattle at thirty one percent San
Francisco at eleven. Rams host the Lions Sunday, and then
of course come here to Seattle. Here's what, And then
they face the Falcons on the road, which, of course
what the Hawks just did, and they closed the regular
season at home against Arizona. Couldn't get any easier than that.
(27:54):
Forty nine Ers, they are idle in week fourteen. That
should never happen again. No team should be idle after
week thirteen. Their final four games are against Tennessee at home,
on the road against the Colts, home against the Bears,
and then a rematch with the Hawks. But this one's
gonna be at the site of Super Bowl sixty Levi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I'm looking at this right now, and then he mentions
one more thing. The NFC West winner has a decent
shot at snagging home field advantage. Throughout the playoffs. The
Rams right now currently have the best odds at forty
eight percent, followed by the Seahawks at twenty nine percent
to get the one seed, then the Packers at ten percent,
(28:38):
and the forty nine Ers at eight percent. No other
NFC team has odds above four percent. So here's the thing.
I mean, for the Hawks, you've got molecular biology, organic chemistry,
(28:58):
nuclear physics, and you don't have There's no ballroom dancing,
there's no courses that Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush took
their final years at USC left on the Hawks schedule,
maybe except for Sunday, But even then, this is a
team coming in so they got a winning record and
they could be a playoff team. I mean, they've kind
of fallen and now without the guy that led them
(29:21):
to the winning record, led them to being a potential
playoff team. It doesn't look like but the Hawks have
a team with a winning record for the rest of
the season. All I know is this, if the Lions
can pull off the upset on Sunday and shock Holts
surf here in Seattle, and then next Thursday night everything
(29:42):
goes our way against the Rams. I believe at that
point the Hawks. I mean, you're in the driver's seat
at that point, you're in the driver's seat. But there's
still that looming game at the end of the year
at Levi Stadium. Remember last year Geno Smith on the
(30:03):
walk off? Remember that at Levi Stadium. So I like
what Mike says in this article. And but how about this.
The Seahawks, the Rams, and the forty nine ers all
have playoff odds of at least ninety four percent to
make the postseason. Three teams in one division. That's insane.
(30:28):
That's unbelievable. Now, NFC North is pretty good too, except
for the Vikes. The Vikes suck, but so they got
the Bears, the Packers and the Lions, so they're also
that's a pretty damn good division as well. But the
best thing is that as long as Mike McDonald aiden
(30:49):
Dirtey and Clint Kubiak and this team and this defense
takes care of business on the field, you don't have
to worry about scoreboard watching. You don't have to worry
about out, Oh you need this team to help out
that day. You don't need Texas Tech to be BYU right,
like a certain team that I know needed on Saturday,
don't need any help. Just take care of your business
(31:11):
in front of you, and everything will take care of itself.
And then the Hawks on wild card weekend could be
sitting at home with a buye waiting for the lowest
seed to advance to come here in Seattle in divisional
playoff weekend, And that, to me is great. But I
will tell you if Kid, and I'm hoping he's wrong.
(31:34):
But if Kid is right and the Rams win next
Thursday night here in Seattle, Kid's already calling it, and
that could happen. Listen, They're undefeated. They're undefeated with Matthew
Stafford and Sean mcva against the Hawks. It's non opinion.
It's a fact, just like it's a fact that Michigan
has twelve national championships and Washington has won, which they
(31:57):
split with the U. It's a fact. Doesn't care about
your feelings, that's a fact. The Seattle Seahawks have not
beaten the Rams with Matthew Stafford playing in the game.
If they can overcome this next Thursday night, it's wonderful.
But if they don't, then you go wild card and
(32:19):
you drop to maybe the five, and then all of
a sudden things start to change a little bit, things
start to change. So take care of business on Sunday,
and then next Thursday night is epic. I heard Stubb.
I don't even know what they're going for. I heard
they're going for like three to five thousand dollars next
Thursday night to get in the stadium, not for like,
(32:39):
you know, nosebleeds, but I heard it's just insane. Next
Thursday night is everything. But we got to take care
of business on Sunday because that's you lose on Sunday.
Guess what division gone? One seed gone? And then all
of a sudden, you're you know, you're a five or six?
Could you win in Tampa?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Could you winning Carolina. There's a chance if the Hawks
don't take care of business against the Colts and the Rams,
then they could be going on the road to face
Carolina twice in three weeks. That could happen. Carolina wins
that division, you go to Carolina. So there's a lot
(33:21):
of things. It's a fluid situation. A lot of things
that I play last night, say what you want, say
what you will about the four Letter Network. Last night
was something special going to pay tribute to the Late
Great Stuart Scott. Next MJ in the midday, Lincoln Kennedy
at noon.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
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Speaker 1 (33:59):
All right, before we get to the Great Stewart, the
lates Great Stewart Scott. Ah, this is a tough one, man,
I mean, you know, this is a tough card. This
week it's mostly pro. I'm not touching Army Navy. I'm
not touching Washington versus Boise State. I don't. I couldn't
get a exact feel in either one of those games.
(34:20):
So I'm gonna stay I'm gonna steer clear of that.
So this week when I'm gonna go with, I think
it's gonna be a very very high scoring affair in
Detroit with the Rams and the Lions. And I'm gonna
(34:40):
take in that game. I'm gonna give you Jamier Gibbs,
Jamiir Gibbs in that game over receiving yards. Jamiir Gibbs
over receiving yards in the game of the Lions and
the Rams. I think Jared Goff, you know, the Rams
gotta good defense. You're gonna need Gibbs. He's one of
(35:02):
the best ers, if not the best receiving back. He
might be the best weapon in the National Football League.
So gimme Jamiir Gibbs over receiving yards. Bet it now,
wait for it, wait for it, Thank me later, all right.
We will get to Stuart Scott coming up. Eventually. We
(35:23):
didn't have time, so we had to get to my pick.
I gotta get to this because they had the thirty
for thirty documentary on Stuart Scott last night, which was
so awesome and so emotional boo yah what it was called.
And to see all the people pay homage and tribute
to the lake great Stuart Scott was amazing. Lincoln Kennedy
a great former Washington Husky, All American and NFL pro bowler.
(35:48):
We'll talk to him coming up next MJ in the
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