December 4, 2025 • 39 mins
Bruce Feldman, reporter for The Athletic drops by to talk all things college football, the hypocrisy in college football playoff rankings and much more. MJ and Kidd hit the text line and read back messages from listeners, and Ian Furness joins the show to share what he has planned for his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bruce Felman here on MJ in the Midday. Bruce, the
article that you wrote was just like I just loved it.
I mean, it just basically spoke for every college football fan.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It doesn't matter who you're a fan of. But let
me just give the title of it. And for those
of you out there that you need to get a
subscription to The Athletic. The College Football Playoff Rankings Reveal
has become a clown show by any metric. Why did
you decide to write such a compelling article?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know, it's been this thing. It's like a circus
that goes on every Tuesday night, right and ESPN, I
get it. They paid a fortune to get the CFP rights,
and so they want to make as much content as
they can. So they have this Tuesday night reveal show.
And what ends up happening is they'll show the top
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twenty five teams and reveal all you know in order,
and then we'll have the CFT chairman in this case
it's Hunter Yeerchek, who's the Arkansas ad And what ends
up happening, and it happens to some degree, has happened
you know in years past. This year has probably happened
way more and I think being in part because this
is their the committee spokesperson, who's probably least skilled to
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be in this position to explain it, and so he
ends up contradicting himself at every turn. And this happens,
and you know, you see different examples of it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Wait, we're gonna reward this team for coming back to win,
and we're going to punish this team for losing, for
for not looking as impressive. You know, it's like, Okay,
we're gonna give you credit for beating a Penn State
team that, yeah, they're they're had a five game losing streak,
but they used to be good, and we're going to
ding you for for struggling with Louisville, who they're not
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as good as they were. It's just mind numbing. And
so that's really how it came about. I mean, the
headliner thing to this is, obviously, you know, the Miami
Notre Dame situation. Miami beats Notre Dame in the first
game of the season. Miami and Notre Dame have the
exact same record, they played a lot of the same components,
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and yet here we are with Miami sitting behind Notre
Dame and it's like it just makes no sense. We're
in a sport that has very small sample size. They
end up projecting and doing a lot of stuff with
formulas and computers and analytics to try to simulate how
these teams would be evaluated. But that's really if they
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didn't play. This game actually happened, and there are people
who are like just trying to throw it out the window,
like it happened last year.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It was this season.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It happened on the field. And by the way, for
the people who go, well, if they played again, Notre
Dame would be favored. Notre Name was favored the first.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Time and they lost. That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's just a farce at this point, and the people
who run the sport of college football are doing the
sport of disservice.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's the thing too.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And again, no matter who you like, I mean, at
the end of the day, you know, college football is
the second most popular sport in America. And yes, the
NFL is king, always has been, always will be. We
know this, but college football is right there, and we
just want the integrity of the sport. I mean, Bruce, like,
this sport should be a meritocracy. It should not be
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you know, nepotism, subjectivity, you know, bias and all those
things that why is there a committee? Why don't we
have a system in place to dictate And you know
I and bringing up the NFL and that respect, Bruce Feldman,
is that you look at that when two teams are
tied within a division for the NFL playoffs, the number
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one determining factor is head to head. When three teams
are tied in a division and a determining factor for
the highest postseason position, the number one factor is head
to head. Now, here's the thing. And I'm sure you
caught this because nothing gets by you. But here's what
we're to me. The hypocrisy stands. So Hunter, y're a
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check is steadfast in well, Oklahoma one at Alabama. So
Oklahoma is ranked over Alabama. Okay, fine, they both have
the same fine, So we're gonna give Oklahoma credit for
head to head there, but we're not gonna do it
over here when it's head to head. Now, beside the
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fact that both teams have the same record and beat
the same common opponents, in Miami actually has a bigger,
bigger margin of victory point differential than Notre Dame. So
right then and there, there's there's right then and there.
It's hypocrisy. And that's the part that I don't get.
We're gonna do it over here, yes, head to head counts,
but not over there.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You said it, it's hypocrisy. I mean, it's they're talking
out of both sides of their mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Look, you could sit there and I'm sure you heard
this theory too. It's like Hunter Yurochek is the spokesperson
for the CFP, he's on the committee. He's also the
ad at Arkansas. Arkansas was a two to ten team.
They were one of the worst teams in UH Power
for football, but Notre Dame beat them fifty six to
thirteen about a month after Notre Dame lost to Miami.
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So he saw Notre Dame in person whip.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Up on his on his school, right, So.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Maybe that's in the back of his head. I don't
you know, You just don't know. You just only know
that he has said repeatedly, Oh well, we can't. We're
not in a position to evaluate, you know, Miami compared
to Notre Dame because we don't think they're in the
same like, we don't think they're that close. Well, if
you don't, are you not paying attention? Like it's just
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you know, in this specific example, he talked about Notre
Dame has better losses. Well, one of those losses was
to Miami. It's just you're like, it makes no sense.
And what's stupidest about it is they keep saying some
version of this but tweaking it for like the last months,
and now it's just getting you know, I think the
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reality of it is. I think, and I wrote this
in the column on the athletic today, was when the
initial rankings happened. It was right after Miami lost in
overtime at SMU, and I think the feeling was, hey,
last year Miami had cam Ward, they had a great
offense that were really talented, and then they sputtered down
the stretch and they lost to the lost to a
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pretty good Syracuse team, and they squandered a big lead
and that's why they didn't get it. And they're going
to do this again down the stretch because you can
feel it coming. Whereas Notre Dame. You know, they had
the bad loss at home last year to Northern Illinois,
but they rattled off like thirteen wins in a row.
And they played made it to the National Title Game
before losing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
To Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So I think they just had more faith in Notre
Dame and less faith in Miami, and that's how that
formed their opinion. Well, it turned out Miami's played really
well down the stretch. It's a really different team, especially defensively,
and so now it's it's kind of fed into this.
But again, yes, I think this is a Miami Notre
Dame piece of it. I don't think this is like
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that's all it is. I just think that the reason
why I've gotten so many texts from people inside the
sport and you know, in the last twenty four hours,
first off of a tweet on Tuesday night, have done
really off this column from people who you know, have
no connection to Miami or Notre Dame, but they're disgusted
by the leadership of college football and how the playoff
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Committee operates. I think people are just sick of it,
and they just think it's like they're failing the.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Sport and that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And Bruce, how much of an indictment and black eye
would this be. Let's just say that it comes down
to that and the committee you know, doesn't go the
way that they should based on a meritocracy, and they
go that way. I mean, everybody thinks that everybody will
agree upon that this current system is broken, But now
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people believe that the system is rigged. How can you
undo that once everybody? Now, it's like, because I've never
had so many great minds and people nationally that all
you need, Like it seems like unanimously, not completely, but
close to a unanimous verdict. Bruce Felman, Joel Klatt, Paul Feinbaum,
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Ross Dellinger, Booker McFarlane.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, I could go on and Clay Travis.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You all are saying the same thing, and when everybody
is saying the same thing, you gotta think that it's
probably true. And it's like you just wonder, are they
that tone deaf? Bruce inside that room.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes they are.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I really think they're that tone deaf, because if they weren't,
somebody would have said, hey, we can't keep trotting Hunter out.
This is embarrassing. Now, we can't keep trotting Hunter out,
putting on a national TV with ESPN to represent us
in this way like it it just makes the sport
look bad. There's no like, there's no way around it.
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I don't know how anybody can sit there objectively and
watch him how he fields questions and the thing that
he said, and they go, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We can't do this.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
This is a this is a you know, basically a
billion dollar operation, and this is the best we can do.
You know, it's ridiculous. And that's the part that is
just like you know, the emoji of the face palm,
like that's college football, and that's the And there's a
lot of people I'm talking about at conferences that it's
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not like, oh, this is acc people I know, these
are at other places who I've heard from who are
just like just blown away by the ineptitude of the CFP.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
No question.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now, with problems which we try to maybe come up
with some sort of plausible solution, Bruce, how do we
hYP as that? How would you? Because I mean, here's
the thing about it. You're too overqualified to be the
chairman of the Playoff Committee because you're intelligent, you're thought provoking,
and you're someone who actually has you know, sort of
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vision and your critical thinker. So that disqualifies you. But
let's just say that Bruce Feldman, and we could only
be so lucky that you were the chairman of the
College Footballlayoff Committee, what would you do to fix this?
And and Bruce, before you answer, I got to ask this,
why is the group of five being included in this?
Because isn't the point of getting the twelve best teams?
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And you know, and I know, all due respect to
James Madison, North Texas and Tulane, they're not the twelve
best teams in the country.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think it's it's in the spirit of the NCAA
Basketball Tournament.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, all right, you know where to have that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I think that's that's where it goes, because if
you're if you're going to have them as FBS teams,
you have to have a you know, it's a big
enough playoff where you can include them as a as
a twelve one game or however it's going to set up,
you know, five twelve game in this case. But I
think to me, the biggest thing I would do is
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if the teams have similar records and it's not like, oh,
this is like a team this is James Matten. You know,
it's one of the group of five teams. The teams
have similar, similar records and similar schedule setups. I'm not
saying like, you know, I think if Miami's strength of
schedule strength is twenty ninth and Notre Dame thirty ninth
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or whatever, it's like that's similar, you know. But if
it's like if they're both all in Power Conference, they
have a similar record, and there's the head to head
and it happened, I don't want to hear about what
the computers are going to say, because the computers are
going to project what they think would happen. I don't
want to hear about what computers think would happen. I
want to hear about and see what actually did happen,
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because that's our sport. That's what it is. This is
not something different. And if that, to me is the
first part of this. You know, I thought Florida State
got screwed couple of years ago because they went thirteen
to Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Their starting quarterback got hurt and was out for the
rest of the season late in the year. You can't
tell that team after what they did. Sorry, we don't
think you're going to be as good down the stretch. Yeah,
I got it. They got blown out after all their
you know, a bunch of their players opted out and everything,
because what did they have to play for?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You told them they.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Went thirteen to O and it's then't good enough. You know,
that's a that's a BS way of operating. And it
just you know, again, it's like points, spreads are great,
hower rankings are all good. It's like, but they don't
tell you what happened. They tell you what they think
is going to happen. You know, that's not what we
should be leaning into.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Bruce Fellman, New York Times best selling author from The
Athletic Big Noon College Football.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You know what else I do? You know?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The one phrase I cannot stand when Hunter says this
phrase data point? Like we're talking about picking the best
teams to play in the college football playoff?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Data point? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Is this molecular biology? Jesus? What is this like nuclear
physics or or data point? Well, what are we talking
about here? We're not code, We're not coding here, Like
this is the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So clearly it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I hope somehow, some way they can find a way
to fix this. Maybe everything you know kind of works
itself out and chockhold Serve and Texas Tech blows the
doors off BYU and sweeps them, and maybe Georgia beats
Alabama by three scores and Duke beats Virginia at that point.
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But here's the problem, Bruce. It's just that it shouldn't
have to come down to this, And like I said,
it just so happens that Miami's in the situation. I'd
be saying this if it was Washington in the spot
of Miami, if it was Texas, if it was Michigan,
if it was usc This just shouldn't because, like you said, hey, Bruce,
my thing is this that if you're not gonna count
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what happened on the field, why play the game.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why play the game? Exactly? That's it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Don't do it anymore, Cupcase, just do the Sisters of
the Poor and DeVry an itt Tech.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, I mean really at that point.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So with that being said, what chance do you think
that this committee?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Now, I guess it's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
To ask that question because it depends on what happens
on Saturday. But let's just say that chockhold serve, Texas
Tech takes care of BYU decisively. Maybe Alabama, excuse me,
Georgia beats Alabama. They're a two and a half point
favorite and say that they win by ten.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Do you think Bama's out?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because I saw a thing on ESPN today Bama has
a ninety three percent chance to make the playoffs even
with a loss on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, I don't think Bama's going to be out if
they lost by thirty five. Maybe I don't. But even still,
it's like they beat Georgia in Athens. Now you're gonna
have to beat them twice.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I would say that Alabama's not going to be out
based off of that. If you know, the probably the
best thing that could be happened, could happen to the
committee would be is if Texas Tech loses to b
YU and then they're both in, and I think I
don't think Texas Tech would fall below, you know, Notre
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Dame and then all of a sudden, Notre Dame and
Miami are out. Okay at that point, yeah, yeah, right now,
I think if you're I think you're a fan of
either of those schools, you're not gonna be happy. But
I think you you know, if you're Miami, you have
less of it. You don't have as much of an
argument because it's not it's b Yu, who's there's actually
Texas Tech who's getting in as the at large, not
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Notre Dame, a team you beat. In that case, then
I definitely think that that's that would be the way
to go. But if it doesn't happen, if if Texas
Tech ends up winning, and I think I just don't see.
At this point, the committee has said, for whatever reason
they are, they seem to be locked into the idea
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that I don't care that the game happened, we would
rather have Notre Dame in the playoff than Miami. I mean,
I'm not saying it's one hundred percent chance that they're
going to do that if they didn't flip them. Now,
why would they flip them when when really nobody relevant
to them is playing this weekend, you know, unless we
hear that like, oh, some Notre Dame player, you know,
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unfortunately got some kind of injury or something that happened
now that they can't play in the playoffs. Like, I
don't see how how the committee is going to rethink
what they supposedly litigated out in their committee meetings or
you know, over the last few weeks and change, you know,
Like I don't, I don't I don't know how that
logic quote unquote plays you know, would become a same
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I just it doesn't It doesn't make sense. But again,
nothing with this committee makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
No, you know what when you have March, Maddis, Bruce
Felman and yet you're talking about sixty eight teams. And yeah,
there was some controversy last year because North Carolina's athletic
director in March, Bubba Cunningham, was the chair of the
NCAA Tournament committee. And I love this one. This one
really really got me like, oh, well, he's out of
the room for those discussions. Oh really, Okay, and let's
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just say this is true. So if Jeff Bezos is
outside of the boardroom when they're having discussions at Amazon,
you don't think his presence is felt like, give me
a break, don't insult our intelligence. So with that being said,
this was to me, maybe this is what is needed
to fix it. But I mean, how much confidence can
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you have that it will be fixed? I mean, listen,
aside from Big Noon right there on Fox, which is
the number one Big ten game of the week, ESPN
and Disney and ABC own college football.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's just be real like they own it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, that's why they have the College Football Playoff
Rankings Reveal on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, and they own the sport.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So when you have a monopoly and you obviously have
an SEC network and an ACC network, and you know
everybody loves Notre Dame, there's to me you can never
be objective.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But hopefully they'll get it fixed.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You got to check out Bruce Felman his article the
College Football Playoff Rankings Reveal had become a clown show
by any metric from the athletic.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Check out his book.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That he came out with, the QB The Making of
Modern Quarterbacks. And Bruce, you know that other book that
is my favorite that you've ever wrote, right, that.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Was about Yeah, that was about twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, you know what I bring that up.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's almost like you don't listen. That book was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like I'm gonna get bare when I die and I
get lowered into the ground for the last time. I
might get lowered with that book. That's how great that
book was.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I appreciate you saying that. It's been a pleasure. Mark.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
All Right, Thanks, Bruce, we'll talk to you. We'll be well.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We'll see if the committee can get it right. On Sunday,
Bruce Felman from the Athletic here on MJ in the
midday and the name of that book was called Caine
Mutiny C A.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
N E. And yeah it was. He's funny, man. It's
true though.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I you know, that's the one thing about the NFL
where if the Hawks, you know, let's just say we're
in a position and you know, they got swept by
the Rams. They split with the Niners, but the Niners
had a better divisional record than the Hawks, which would
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you know, possibly and this is all hypothetical here knock
Seattle out of the postseason, then like you can accept it.
There's a criteria, there's there's presidents. The NFL has this right.
Roger Goodell and his cronies on Park Avenue aren't in
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a room deciding, oh you know what, Well, you know,
Seattle they won at Jacksonville, but San Francisco looked more
impressive when they beat the Jags and the Seahawks did,
so we're gonna put the forty nine ers in over Seattle.
You don't do that crap. It's just decided they have
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the typebreaker there. The criteria is there, and that's the
thing that sucks about this, it's just the whole thing.
I hope it works out, but I'm either gonna be
really happy at Muckleshoot on Sunday. I'll be really happy
anyway for the Hawks Falcons game. By the way, don't
forget to join me there at Muckleshoot Casino inside Galaxy
on Sunday for the Seattle away game watch party. Corona
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and Model Girls will be there. We'll give away kJ
R T shirts, which are a very hot commodity. There's
not many of those left. I'm hoping we can get
some black KGr T shirts in twenty twenty six because
those would be really cool because we've got that cool.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We got the coolest logo.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Listen, anytime you can get black and red as your
color scheme, which is what we've got, we just got
to basically, you know, get a scheme there. We got
KJR in red letters and then a black T shirt.
It would be fire, total fire. So we'll hopefully get
those coming up. But we will have KJR T shirts
to give away on Sunday. Come on out and join
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me and they a root on the Hawks, which again
it's a road game, so you never know what can happen.
But right now, I mean Atlanta, I mean for them
to win, they're actually hurting their franchise and lowering their
position in the NFL Draft in April. So I expect
the Hawks to take care of this. And by the way,
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who's the best road coach in the NFL. Mike McDonald
twelve and two in his Seahawks era. Yeah, you talk
about Taylor Swift the Era's tour, while I'm talking about
Mike McDonald the road eras tour twelve and two. That's
a lot more successful than Taylor Swift. Just gonna say.
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And by the way, i'd actually prefer to hear Mike
McDonald sing than Taylor Swift too, just saying, what do
you say text today? Four nine, four or five one?
Did I just say that?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah? I just said that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And if you're a dude out there and I don't
care who you are, and you like Taylor Swift music,
well there's no accounting for tastes, right, they say, you know,
you know, like the love of music is like a
personal preference, as if kind of like if you like,
I don't know, liver in somebody.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No no, no, no, no, no. Love of music.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, I will give you that, but Taylor Swift really
really the only thing that's scarier to me than Disney
adults are swifties in their thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties
that follow her around like old groupies. That's scary. But nonetheless,
Seahawks take care of business. Come out to Muckleshoot on
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Galaxy on Sunday for the Seattle away game Rumble Watch party.
It should not be a game, but if it is,
I believe the Seahawks will prevail. Come home back to
back weeks, actually no back to back games within a
span of five days, as the Colts come in here
next a week from this Sunday, and then the Rams
come in two weeks from tonight. That's it, kid, right,
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that's the season. To me, that that is the NFC
West Championship game. Am I right or wrong? But the Niners,
the Niners are to think about the Niners. They're just
they're like cockroaches. You can't kill them. You just can't
kill them.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's just like I told you earlier, it's always going
to be a difficult game. I'm not saying the Seahawks
can't win it, but the Niners just show up and
it doesn't matter who's on the field because you as
you mentioned, they're without their starting little linebacker and Fred.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Warner, no Big, no Bosa.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They have problems all over the place, but they find
themselves weekend and week out handling business. And the seahouts
are doing so as well, because guess what sounds like
Julian Love is finally coming back. So that's a good
that's a great sign for the starts. But Tyo Katta,
he's on a fabulous job back there. So both teams
have had their their issues and we're gonna find out
when it's all said and done, how how it fares.
Because it's gonna be a huge game, whether it's the
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Rams which come up in two weeks and then the
end of season against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Wow, and then they got to go to Carolina after that,
and that game's not a gimme anymore because they're good.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They're decent.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Dave Kanalis he learned from the best. He was here
for twelve thirteen years here in Seattle. He's doing some
great things here, all right. Coming up next to what
do you say? Texts of the Day? Four nine four
five one, all right, what do you say? Text to
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the day four and nine, four or five to one.
Seahawks offense needs series change for the game plan two
conservative and predictable JSN got shut down. We did not
have an answer, no more. Darryl Bevel plays, been there,
done that exclamation point and yes, thanks for everybody to
let me know. That's why I love you guys. When
you know what when you when we get something wrong.
(25:20):
Kid thought the game.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Was in Miami. It's in New York. It's a New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Fine, but you guys are listening and let us know
we get something wrong because we'll admit it on the air.
This is a weird thing by the Seahawks beating the
Falcons on Sunday. It actually helps the Rams because Atlanta
traded their first round pick to the Rams. So by
Atlanta losing, it moves up and helps the Rams. I
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know it sucks, but I'd rather do that than lose
a game, especially when you're in a dead heat right
now for that division title coming up two weeks from tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
So MJ.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Earlier on in the show, you were talking about the
Lions and the important game that's going on tonight between
the Lions and who's playing again Dallas Dallas Cowboys. So
right now I'm trying to find information on it. But MJ,
you know that Aman roys question.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
He's not gonna play. Probably he's not. Oh you don't
think so? Okay, No, I don't think he's playing. But
they got Jamison Williams. They got Jamier Gibbs. And I
actually said that when I made my pick last hour,
I said, they've got enough. I don't expect him to play.
He's questionable, but and I know report is out.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
They don't win the game the night if Jared Goff
doesn't throw for close to three hundred yards and Jamier
Gibbs better run for over one hundred and Jamier Gibbs
better catch for maybe close to eighty. They need a
big game from those guys, including Jamison and Williams. And
Jamison Williams can ball the f out. He is sick,
that dude. I mean, anybody who transfers from Ohio State
(26:49):
to Alabama, you know, has game. You don't usually get
to transfer in Alabama. You're usually transferring out of Alabama.
And he left Ohio State, and you know why he
left Ohio State. Do you know why why because he
had Chris Olave, Jarrett Wilson and you ever heard of
this guy Jackson Smith and Jig.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But he couldn't get on the field. He couldn't get
on the damn field. So he left it, went to Alabama.
Was a star at Alabama. That's when you know you
got game go ahead, you got an next another one? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
So regarding the guys out in New York, it's gonna
be damn code in New York for a bunch of
dudes from South Florida as well.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Uh yeah, that's true. But I mean, listen, they're pros
on college I think. But yeah, they're pros. They you know,
they are from the Let me see here. Notre Dame
could be on number twelve and the committee would still say, yeah,
but those twelve losses looked really good. Yeah, oh he
meant one in twelve. He didn't do the dash, could
(27:56):
be one in twelve if you're right they are, oh
in twell, yeah, those twelve losses look really good. The
committee's just enamored with Notre Dame's audience and TV rings,
So I know, tell me you know that that goes
without saying.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
If Alabama loses and already has three losses no matter
what the circumstance, they don't belong. How about not lose
to crappy Florida State. You wouldn't have three losses then, right, Well,
they don't have three losses right now.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
They could have three losses after Saturday, but they don't
have three losses right now. They've got two. But it's
they're Alabama, man. And you know what, I didn't think
they I didn't think that they would get in last year,
and they did get in last year.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
What else we got?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If a team rested starters in a win and another
team doesn't, does the margin of victory mean the same? Well,
not from the critics side, but but and certainly the
computers would Acknow, the computers would look at it as
the same.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But yeah, the computer wouldn't recognize that the other one
team rest of their starters.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
They would not know that. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's where you need some some you know, objective, But
there's nothing objective.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Last one from me.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
If you are the Houston Rockets, shouldn't you be trying
to get Jan's atten to comboat trading? Maybe I don't know.
I'm in Thompson. To be honest, anybody saying goon thoughts MJ.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, shn goon. I'm on to Amen Thompson. How much
else are you gonna give up?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Though? I mean, like you know, but.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, if you got a chance to get a
two time MVP and NBA Finals MVP, you know, you
know they're they're looking at right now. I think the
Knicks should be looking to load up Karl Anthony Towns.
The problem with the Knicks they have no draft capital.
They give it five first round picks from Michale Bridges.
They got no draft capital. So Milwaukee's gonna be like
(29:56):
w t F. You got to give us more than
Karl Anthony Towns. You got Okay, he's on it for
the future. But by the way, by the way, okay,
here's Carl Anthony Towns and Mikhale Bridges. Take them both,
like you know, I mean, yeah, it's uh, it's one
of those things.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Man, let's hear. Uh MJ.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It's been a rough morning. Just want to let you
know I appreciate the laughs. You're funny. You sound like
Dick Vital Uh need I uh need to open one
for the ladies and call it banana hammocks espresso. Uh,
there's a coffee shop in Everett that sells quote full
service menu. MJ's new catchphrase should be just go to
(30:37):
a bikina a bikini barista now and thank MJ later.
Ha ha ha A guy who had issues? Are you
talking about bikini barista's? He must be in the car
with his wife whipping sound love that you sound as
giddy as we did for our first time. Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I can't read that one.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Uh. Remember, truth is an absolute defense to libel if
anyone is upset about your rosy O'donnald quote Stephen Abbott esquire.
He gave me his bar number two, so that's pretty good.
We used to go to a coffee stand in Silver
Lake with my mom as kids. Went there once at
seventeen and the girls were wearing only stickers. I said,
(31:21):
we can't take mom here anymore. They were later shut
down for having an extended tip men you performed in
their storage room. Oh man, that is too funny. Did
you really mention coffee at a something Hut in the
(31:42):
same conversation as Levenworth as Washington Attractions? Yes, I did
go to Levenworth's MLK day weekend fireworks in town Sunday night, MJ.
You want more of that? Head up north and hit
Highway ninety nine. There's one damn every near mile. Uh
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right. Well, we appreciate all the texts today. They
were fun.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
And you guys always hey when you managed? What is
Jim Valvano A? What did the late great Jim Valvano say?
If you laugh, if you think and you cry every day,
that's a hell of a day.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Don't usually I usually try to do two out of three.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Don't usually get the cry in unless I think about
my father or grandfather recently dying. But you gotta at
least think and laugh. Gotta do that two out of three,
I think. Isn't that bad?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
We will talk to the mayor of Maple Valley. Thank
you very much to Bruce Feldman and Dalton Wasserman for
joining us today. Mayor crosstalk next, all right, the gready
Inferness is in the house getting ready for the Kraken
(32:55):
game tonight versus the Edmonton olders up at Rogers Place
and Edmonton and and they got their little kind of
random mini All Star break at the end of November
beginning of December, so they're actually going to play to night.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I hope they better be well rested.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Well, they had three days on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday off
at home, travel Wednesday. So in today's NHL, that's like
a long long break.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Huge but you got but you're working like a madman
the next the rest of the month.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, it's pretty busy.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So of all the places I want to go to Levenworth,
Ted Bundy's house, Jimmy Hendrick's memorial, so many different places
I want to check out.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Unbeknounced to me last night, I stumbled upon a bikini
barista place in SeaTac called Cherry Bomb Espresso.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
That that wasn't a hint cherry Bomb No okay, no, no, no,
it really wasn't.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I just thought that was the name of it. Did
leave MJ four nine four five, Well what I When.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I got to the window, I was like, oh, well,
this isn't this isn't Starbucks this but but it was
a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You haven't been to one of those people, No, you
of all people to one right, I didn't know do
they exist in floor or places like?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
No, no, we have.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Hooters there at least no, you know what I'm saying,
like like peaks, which is here, we have twin peaks here,
but those things like let me tell you something right now,
a franchise does bikini baristas stand here Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Here's the problem. Here's the problem with them.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
First now, I I I have no problem with with them,
Like I'm not going to be that guy and like
try to be like, oh, I look down upon that.
You know what you're making your money, You probably get
great tips if deserved, and so forth. The last time
I went to one, probably, I want to say, it
might have been pre pandemic, like and I only say
that because I know when it was. I was coming
(34:46):
back from a Seahawk game on a Monday, back from
a road trip. It was one of the flights we
had that was. We probably left our hotel at two
am Pacific, five am Eastern time, somewhere right flu across country.
Cause I do the show, so we land, it's like
ten o'clock in the morning. I land, and I'm like,
I've got to get a coffee man, like I and
I'm a big coffee guy, Like I can't. I cannot,
I cannot function without a couple of cups of like
(35:08):
I I just wanted.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
A white hot chocolate. I don't drink coffee.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, I love coffee and I need it, and it's
you no and I and I you know, I need
it in the morning. In fact, I had my physical
a couple of days ago and it's like, okay, before
I go there, I can't really have a coffee, blood
pressure all that right now. So like I'm just, ah,
I need coffee. So I'm driving along and I'm like,
I'll tell you, from here from the airport to where
we work, there isn't a Starbucks or a legitimate like
(35:33):
a different type of coffee stand that's decent. Right there
just isn't one. It's weird if you come down ninety
nine five o nine and yeah, yeah, well I do
every day. There's nothing like think about there's no coffee.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
There's no one.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
There's one. It's on East Marginal Way. You probably drive
it every day a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah. The ladybug.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Yeah, the ladybug. Okay, and that's that's a bigin you
be reached a place. So I'm driving along, like I
just need coffee. Go through there, and she says, you know,
and I'll like pull up. I'm like, I don't even
care at this point, I just what do you need?
My wife's my wife can see the debit slip, going
to say whatever else says on it. And my wife
thinks Hooters is a strip joint. So that's that tells
you where we're at, right. I'm like, this is what
(36:08):
we're gonna do anyway, So I go, I'll have a
sixteen ounce double shot, fat free latte.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
It's all I want.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yes, yes, hot, thank you, And so I get it.
It was nine eighty nine. It was like almost ten
dollars for a sixty ounce latte, which is about two
to three dollars more than a normal latte would be.
So I guess you're paying for the scenery. No word
of a lie. It was the worst worst coffee drink
(36:34):
I've ever had. I don't know if there's caffeine in it.
I don't know if there was coffee in it. There
was foamed milk. I know that that's about it. It
was so bad. And I see people every day when
I drive home or drive in. Oh yeah, I lined
up at that place the same place because it's right
before that Georgetown more. Yes, yes, So I'm thinking to myself,
like the person working in there to have people lined
(36:54):
up every day, she must be worth it.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Eleven.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
She must be because the coffee is the worst coffee
you could ever fathom. Wow, awful, Like, I mean, it's awful,
mark and it's overpriced. And I'll tell you right now
what I saw that day wasn't worth it. Well, you
went on a coffee wise and when I saw that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But you know what you saw, you had a good experience. Wow,
Cherry Bomb Espresso. That that wasn't that place? So Cherry
Bomb Espresso was like the Maybach Bentley kind of Bugatti. Yeah,
this this was allright?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And I just I didn't I'm like, holy coffee, Like, wow,
you know, I just wanted a hot white chocolate.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I was in the mood for a hot white chocolate.
And then I get yeah, I got more than a bargain.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
For Well, you know, you can go go get yourself
another hot water. That might be what they nicknamed you.
Here it comes our guy white chot kid likes that one.
Oh boy, that might be your new handle.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
You think I think you should go for it? Him,
mister blue Choo white chocolate, white chocolate. I like, well,
I think I think that's already.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Uh, Jason Williams, No, hot white chocolate, Okay, hot white chock.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
He's just got white chocolate.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, you put the hot in front of it and
and kid knows, it got assembled to the history of
the NBA. A lot of people don't know who you
know white chocolate was. It's been a while, so, yeah,
it's been it's been a minute. Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Uh. So what today? What do you got coming up?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
A corpus Fi's going to join us right off the
top of the show talk all things Seahawks's weekly visit
because we're kind of bumping him up because we've got
Brandon Huffman twenty four at seven Sports.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
He'll join us at one twenty to talk recruiting, U
Portal all the stuff that goes on because yesterday it
was the first day of signing period for the for
colleges across the country. You dub had a great day.
We'll talk about the rest of the big ten in
the country as well.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Do you want to hear something crazy?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Do you know right now that Penn State's recruiting class
is below McNee State.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I heard that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
They they they're they're they are so l yeah, they're
in trouble there.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
They don't like Sataki State. Who's who's out there. We're
going to get and you know who I thought they
were get.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
They're guaranteed to get Brian Hartline and he goes to USF. Yeah,
so he's going down to USF. And by the way,
every football coaches job in Florida got tougher because that
dude can recruit.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Yeah, and that's a decent program. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know Penn States in trouble. So we'll talk to
him about that all things recruiting, which our annual VIZ
actually used to be just one annual visit in February.
Now we do one on December, we do one in February.
We'll do a portal one in January. So he's joining
us today. Then last week of fantasy football regular season,
so four nine, four or five one. Get those textans
starting at one o'clock
Bruce Felman here on MJ in the Midday. Bruce, the
article that you wrote was just like I just loved it.
I mean, it just basically spoke for every college football fan.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It doesn't matter who you're a fan of. But let
me just give the title of it. And for those
of you out there that you need to get a
subscription to The Athletic. The College Football Playoff Rankings Reveal
has become a clown show by any metric. Why did
you decide to write such a compelling article?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know, it's been this thing. It's like a circus
that goes on every Tuesday night, right and ESPN, I
get it. They paid a fortune to get the CFP rights,
and so they want to make as much content as
they can. So they have this Tuesday night reveal show.
And what ends up happening is they'll show the top
(00:56):
twenty five teams and reveal all you know in order,
and then we'll have the CFT chairman in this case
it's Hunter Yeerchek, who's the Arkansas ad And what ends
up happening, and it happens to some degree, has happened
you know in years past. This year has probably happened
way more and I think being in part because this
is their the committee spokesperson, who's probably least skilled to
(01:21):
be in this position to explain it, and so he
ends up contradicting himself at every turn. And this happens,
and you know, you see different examples of it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Wait, we're gonna reward this team for coming back to win,
and we're going to punish this team for losing, for
for not looking as impressive. You know, it's like, Okay,
we're gonna give you credit for beating a Penn State
team that, yeah, they're they're had a five game losing streak,
but they used to be good, and we're going to
ding you for for struggling with Louisville, who they're not
(01:54):
as good as they were. It's just mind numbing. And
so that's really how it came about. I mean, the
headliner thing to this is, obviously, you know, the Miami
Notre Dame situation. Miami beats Notre Dame in the first
game of the season. Miami and Notre Dame have the
exact same record, they played a lot of the same components,
(02:16):
and yet here we are with Miami sitting behind Notre
Dame and it's like it just makes no sense. We're
in a sport that has very small sample size. They
end up projecting and doing a lot of stuff with
formulas and computers and analytics to try to simulate how
these teams would be evaluated. But that's really if they
(02:37):
didn't play. This game actually happened, and there are people
who are like just trying to throw it out the window,
like it happened last year.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It was this season.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It happened on the field. And by the way, for
the people who go, well, if they played again, Notre
Dame would be favored. Notre Name was favored the first.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Time and they lost. That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's just a farce at this point, and the people
who run the sport of college football are doing the
sport of disservice.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's the thing too.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And again, no matter who you like, I mean, at
the end of the day, you know, college football is
the second most popular sport in America. And yes, the
NFL is king, always has been, always will be. We
know this, but college football is right there, and we
just want the integrity of the sport. I mean, Bruce, like,
this sport should be a meritocracy. It should not be
(03:22):
you know, nepotism, subjectivity, you know, bias and all those
things that why is there a committee? Why don't we
have a system in place to dictate And you know
I and bringing up the NFL and that respect, Bruce Feldman,
is that you look at that when two teams are
tied within a division for the NFL playoffs, the number
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one determining factor is head to head. When three teams
are tied in a division and a determining factor for
the highest postseason position, the number one factor is head
to head. Now, here's the thing. And I'm sure you
caught this because nothing gets by you. But here's what
we're to me. The hypocrisy stands. So Hunter, y're a
(04:06):
check is steadfast in well, Oklahoma one at Alabama. So
Oklahoma is ranked over Alabama. Okay, fine, they both have
the same fine, So we're gonna give Oklahoma credit for
head to head there, but we're not gonna do it
over here when it's head to head. Now, beside the
(04:29):
fact that both teams have the same record and beat
the same common opponents, in Miami actually has a bigger,
bigger margin of victory point differential than Notre Dame. So
right then and there, there's there's right then and there.
It's hypocrisy. And that's the part that I don't get.
We're gonna do it over here, yes, head to head counts,
but not over there.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You said it, it's hypocrisy. I mean, it's they're talking
out of both sides of their mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Look, you could sit there and I'm sure you heard
this theory too. It's like Hunter Yurochek is the spokesperson
for the CFP, he's on the committee. He's also the
ad at Arkansas. Arkansas was a two to ten team.
They were one of the worst teams in UH Power
for football, but Notre Dame beat them fifty six to
thirteen about a month after Notre Dame lost to Miami.
(05:19):
So he saw Notre Dame in person whip.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Up on his on his school, right, So.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Maybe that's in the back of his head. I don't
you know, You just don't know. You just only know
that he has said repeatedly, Oh well, we can't. We're
not in a position to evaluate, you know, Miami compared
to Notre Dame because we don't think they're in the
same like, we don't think they're that close. Well, if
you don't, are you not paying attention? Like it's just
(05:47):
you know, in this specific example, he talked about Notre
Dame has better losses. Well, one of those losses was
to Miami. It's just you're like, it makes no sense.
And what's stupidest about it is they keep saying some
version of this but tweaking it for like the last months,
and now it's just getting you know, I think the
(06:10):
reality of it is. I think, and I wrote this
in the column on the athletic today, was when the
initial rankings happened. It was right after Miami lost in
overtime at SMU, and I think the feeling was, hey,
last year Miami had cam Ward, they had a great
offense that were really talented, and then they sputtered down
the stretch and they lost to the lost to a
(06:32):
pretty good Syracuse team, and they squandered a big lead
and that's why they didn't get it. And they're going
to do this again down the stretch because you can
feel it coming. Whereas Notre Dame. You know, they had
the bad loss at home last year to Northern Illinois,
but they rattled off like thirteen wins in a row.
And they played made it to the National Title Game
before losing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
To Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So I think they just had more faith in Notre
Dame and less faith in Miami, and that's how that
formed their opinion. Well, it turned out Miami's played really
well down the stretch. It's a really different team, especially defensively,
and so now it's it's kind of fed into this.
But again, yes, I think this is a Miami Notre
Dame piece of it. I don't think this is like
(07:14):
that's all it is. I just think that the reason
why I've gotten so many texts from people inside the
sport and you know, in the last twenty four hours,
first off of a tweet on Tuesday night, have done
really off this column from people who you know, have
no connection to Miami or Notre Dame, but they're disgusted
by the leadership of college football and how the playoff
(07:38):
Committee operates. I think people are just sick of it,
and they just think it's like they're failing the.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Sport and that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And Bruce, how much of an indictment and black eye
would this be. Let's just say that it comes down
to that and the committee you know, doesn't go the
way that they should based on a meritocracy, and they
go that way. I mean, everybody thinks that everybody will
agree upon that this current system is broken, But now
(08:06):
people believe that the system is rigged. How can you
undo that once everybody? Now, it's like, because I've never
had so many great minds and people nationally that all
you need, Like it seems like unanimously, not completely, but
close to a unanimous verdict. Bruce Felman, Joel Klatt, Paul Feinbaum,
(08:28):
Ross Dellinger, Booker McFarlane.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, I could go on and Clay Travis.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You all are saying the same thing, and when everybody
is saying the same thing, you gotta think that it's
probably true. And it's like you just wonder, are they
that tone deaf? Bruce inside that room.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes they are.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I really think they're that tone deaf, because if they weren't,
somebody would have said, hey, we can't keep trotting Hunter out.
This is embarrassing. Now, we can't keep trotting Hunter out,
putting on a national TV with ESPN to represent us
in this way like it it just makes the sport
look bad. There's no like, there's no way around it.
(09:10):
I don't know how anybody can sit there objectively and
watch him how he fields questions and the thing that
he said, and they go, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We can't do this.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
This is a this is a you know, basically a
billion dollar operation, and this is the best we can do.
You know, it's ridiculous. And that's the part that is
just like you know, the emoji of the face palm,
like that's college football, and that's the And there's a
lot of people I'm talking about at conferences that it's
(09:39):
not like, oh, this is acc people I know, these
are at other places who I've heard from who are
just like just blown away by the ineptitude of the CFP.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
No question.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now, with problems which we try to maybe come up
with some sort of plausible solution, Bruce, how do we
hYP as that? How would you? Because I mean, here's
the thing about it. You're too overqualified to be the
chairman of the Playoff Committee because you're intelligent, you're thought provoking,
and you're someone who actually has you know, sort of
(10:11):
vision and your critical thinker. So that disqualifies you. But
let's just say that Bruce Feldman, and we could only
be so lucky that you were the chairman of the
College Footballlayoff Committee, what would you do to fix this?
And and Bruce, before you answer, I got to ask this,
why is the group of five being included in this?
Because isn't the point of getting the twelve best teams?
(10:33):
And you know, and I know, all due respect to
James Madison, North Texas and Tulane, they're not the twelve
best teams in the country.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think it's it's in the spirit of the NCAA
Basketball Tournament.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, all right, you know where to have that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I think that's that's where it goes, because if
you're if you're going to have them as FBS teams,
you have to have a you know, it's a big
enough playoff where you can include them as a as
a twelve one game or however it's going to set up,
you know, five twelve game in this case. But I
think to me, the biggest thing I would do is
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if the teams have similar records and it's not like, oh,
this is like a team this is James Matten. You know,
it's one of the group of five teams. The teams
have similar, similar records and similar schedule setups. I'm not
saying like, you know, I think if Miami's strength of
schedule strength is twenty ninth and Notre Dame thirty ninth
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or whatever, it's like that's similar, you know. But if
it's like if they're both all in Power Conference, they
have a similar record, and there's the head to head
and it happened, I don't want to hear about what
the computers are going to say, because the computers are
going to project what they think would happen. I don't
want to hear about what computers think would happen. I
want to hear about and see what actually did happen,
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because that's our sport. That's what it is. This is
not something different. And if that, to me is the
first part of this. You know, I thought Florida State
got screwed couple of years ago because they went thirteen
to Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Their starting quarterback got hurt and was out for the
rest of the season late in the year. You can't
tell that team after what they did. Sorry, we don't
think you're going to be as good down the stretch. Yeah,
I got it. They got blown out after all their
you know, a bunch of their players opted out and everything,
because what did they have to play for?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You told them they.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Went thirteen to O and it's then't good enough. You know,
that's a that's a BS way of operating. And it
just you know, again, it's like points, spreads are great,
hower rankings are all good. It's like, but they don't
tell you what happened. They tell you what they think
is going to happen. You know, that's not what we
should be leaning into.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Bruce Fellman, New York Times best selling author from The
Athletic Big Noon College Football.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You know what else I do? You know?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The one phrase I cannot stand when Hunter says this
phrase data point? Like we're talking about picking the best
teams to play in the college football playoff?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Data point? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Is this molecular biology? Jesus? What is this like nuclear
physics or or data point? Well, what are we talking
about here? We're not code, We're not coding here, Like
this is the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So clearly it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I hope somehow, some way they can find a way
to fix this. Maybe everything you know kind of works
itself out and chockhold Serve and Texas Tech blows the
doors off BYU and sweeps them, and maybe Georgia beats
Alabama by three scores and Duke beats Virginia at that point.
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But here's the problem, Bruce. It's just that it shouldn't
have to come down to this, And like I said,
it just so happens that Miami's in the situation. I'd
be saying this if it was Washington in the spot
of Miami, if it was Texas, if it was Michigan,
if it was usc This just shouldn't because, like you said, hey, Bruce,
my thing is this that if you're not gonna count
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what happened on the field, why play the game.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Why play the game? Exactly? That's it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Don't do it anymore, Cupcase, just do the Sisters of
the Poor and DeVry an itt Tech.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, I mean really at that point.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So with that being said, what chance do you think
that this committee?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Now, I guess it's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
To ask that question because it depends on what happens
on Saturday. But let's just say that chockhold serve, Texas
Tech takes care of BYU decisively. Maybe Alabama, excuse me,
Georgia beats Alabama. They're a two and a half point
favorite and say that they win by ten.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Do you think Bama's out?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because I saw a thing on ESPN today Bama has
a ninety three percent chance to make the playoffs even
with a loss on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, I don't think Bama's going to be out if
they lost by thirty five. Maybe I don't. But even still,
it's like they beat Georgia in Athens. Now you're gonna
have to beat them twice.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I would say that Alabama's not going to be out
based off of that. If you know, the probably the
best thing that could be happened, could happen to the
committee would be is if Texas Tech loses to b
YU and then they're both in, and I think I
don't think Texas Tech would fall below, you know, Notre
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Dame and then all of a sudden, Notre Dame and
Miami are out. Okay at that point, yeah, yeah, right now,
I think if you're I think you're a fan of
either of those schools, you're not gonna be happy. But
I think you you know, if you're Miami, you have
less of it. You don't have as much of an
argument because it's not it's b Yu, who's there's actually
Texas Tech who's getting in as the at large, not
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Notre Dame, a team you beat. In that case, then
I definitely think that that's that would be the way
to go. But if it doesn't happen, if if Texas
Tech ends up winning, and I think I just don't see.
At this point, the committee has said, for whatever reason
they are, they seem to be locked into the idea
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that I don't care that the game happened, we would
rather have Notre Dame in the playoff than Miami. I mean,
I'm not saying it's one hundred percent chance that they're
going to do that if they didn't flip them. Now,
why would they flip them when when really nobody relevant
to them is playing this weekend, you know, unless we
hear that like, oh, some Notre Dame player, you know,
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unfortunately got some kind of injury or something that happened
now that they can't play in the playoffs. Like, I
don't see how how the committee is going to rethink
what they supposedly litigated out in their committee meetings or
you know, over the last few weeks and change, you know,
Like I don't, I don't I don't know how that
logic quote unquote plays you know, would become a same
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I just it doesn't It doesn't make sense. But again,
nothing with this committee makes sense.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
No, you know what when you have March, Maddis, Bruce
Felman and yet you're talking about sixty eight teams. And yeah,
there was some controversy last year because North Carolina's athletic
director in March, Bubba Cunningham, was the chair of the
NCAA Tournament committee. And I love this one. This one
really really got me like, oh, well, he's out of
the room for those discussions. Oh really, Okay, and let's
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just say this is true. So if Jeff Bezos is
outside of the boardroom when they're having discussions at Amazon,
you don't think his presence is felt like, give me
a break, don't insult our intelligence. So with that being said,
this was to me, maybe this is what is needed
to fix it. But I mean, how much confidence can
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you have that it will be fixed? I mean, listen,
aside from Big Noon right there on Fox, which is
the number one Big ten game of the week, ESPN
and Disney and ABC own college football.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's just be real like they own it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, that's why they have the College Football Playoff
Rankings Reveal on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, and they own the sport.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So when you have a monopoly and you obviously have
an SEC network and an ACC network, and you know
everybody loves Notre Dame, there's to me you can never
be objective.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But hopefully they'll get it fixed.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You got to check out Bruce Felman his article the
College Football Playoff Rankings Reveal had become a clown show
by any metric from the athletic.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Check out his book.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That he came out with, the QB The Making of
Modern Quarterbacks. And Bruce, you know that other book that
is my favorite that you've ever wrote, right, that.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Was about Yeah, that was about twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, you know what I bring that up.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's almost like you don't listen. That book was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like I'm gonna get bare when I die and I
get lowered into the ground for the last time. I
might get lowered with that book. That's how great that
book was.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I appreciate you saying that. It's been a pleasure. Mark.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
All Right, Thanks, Bruce, we'll talk to you. We'll be well.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We'll see if the committee can get it right. On Sunday,
Bruce Felman from the Athletic here on MJ in the
midday and the name of that book was called Caine
Mutiny C A.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
N E. And yeah it was. He's funny, man. It's
true though.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I you know, that's the one thing about the NFL
where if the Hawks, you know, let's just say we're
in a position and you know, they got swept by
the Rams. They split with the Niners, but the Niners
had a better divisional record than the Hawks, which would
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you know, possibly and this is all hypothetical here knock
Seattle out of the postseason, then like you can accept it.
There's a criteria, there's there's presidents. The NFL has this right.
Roger Goodell and his cronies on Park Avenue aren't in
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a room deciding, oh you know what, Well, you know,
Seattle they won at Jacksonville, but San Francisco looked more
impressive when they beat the Jags and the Seahawks did,
so we're gonna put the forty nine ers in over Seattle.
You don't do that crap. It's just decided they have
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the typebreaker there. The criteria is there, and that's the
thing that sucks about this, it's just the whole thing.
I hope it works out, but I'm either gonna be
really happy at Muckleshoot on Sunday. I'll be really happy
anyway for the Hawks Falcons game. By the way, don't
forget to join me there at Muckleshoot Casino inside Galaxy
on Sunday for the Seattle away game watch party. Corona
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and Model Girls will be there. We'll give away kJ
R T shirts, which are a very hot commodity. There's
not many of those left. I'm hoping we can get
some black KGr T shirts in twenty twenty six because
those would be really cool because we've got that cool.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We got the coolest logo.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Listen, anytime you can get black and red as your
color scheme, which is what we've got, we just got
to basically, you know, get a scheme there. We got
KJR in red letters and then a black T shirt.
It would be fire, total fire. So we'll hopefully get
those coming up. But we will have KJR T shirts
to give away on Sunday. Come on out and join
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me and they a root on the Hawks, which again
it's a road game, so you never know what can happen.
But right now, I mean Atlanta, I mean for them
to win, they're actually hurting their franchise and lowering their
position in the NFL Draft in April. So I expect
the Hawks to take care of this. And by the way,
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who's the best road coach in the NFL. Mike McDonald
twelve and two in his Seahawks era. Yeah, you talk
about Taylor Swift the Era's tour, while I'm talking about
Mike McDonald the road eras tour twelve and two. That's
a lot more successful than Taylor Swift. Just gonna say.
(22:11):
And by the way, i'd actually prefer to hear Mike
McDonald sing than Taylor Swift too, just saying, what do
you say text today? Four nine, four or five one?
Did I just say that?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah? I just said that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And if you're a dude out there and I don't
care who you are, and you like Taylor Swift music,
well there's no accounting for tastes, right, they say, you know,
you know, like the love of music is like a
personal preference, as if kind of like if you like,
I don't know, liver in somebody.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No no, no, no, no, no. Love of music.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, I will give you that, but Taylor Swift really
really the only thing that's scarier to me than Disney
adults are swifties in their thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties
that follow her around like old groupies. That's scary. But nonetheless,
Seahawks take care of business. Come out to Muckleshoot on
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Galaxy on Sunday for the Seattle away game Rumble Watch party.
It should not be a game, but if it is,
I believe the Seahawks will prevail. Come home back to
back weeks, actually no back to back games within a
span of five days, as the Colts come in here
next a week from this Sunday, and then the Rams
come in two weeks from tonight. That's it, kid, right,
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that's the season. To me, that that is the NFC
West Championship game. Am I right or wrong? But the Niners,
the Niners are to think about the Niners. They're just
they're like cockroaches. You can't kill them. You just can't
kill them.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's just like I told you earlier, it's always going
to be a difficult game. I'm not saying the Seahawks
can't win it, but the Niners just show up and
it doesn't matter who's on the field because you as
you mentioned, they're without their starting little linebacker and Fred.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Warner, no Big, no Bosa.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They have problems all over the place, but they find
themselves weekend and week out handling business. And the seahouts
are doing so as well, because guess what sounds like
Julian Love is finally coming back. So that's a good
that's a great sign for the starts. But Tyo Katta,
he's on a fabulous job back there. So both teams
have had their their issues and we're gonna find out
when it's all said and done, how how it fares.
Because it's gonna be a huge game, whether it's the
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Rams which come up in two weeks and then the
end of season against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Wow, and then they got to go to Carolina after that,
and that game's not a gimme anymore because they're good.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They're decent.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Dave Kanalis he learned from the best. He was here
for twelve thirteen years here in Seattle. He's doing some
great things here, all right. Coming up next to what
do you say? Texts of the Day? Four nine four
five one, all right, what do you say? Text to
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the day four and nine, four or five to one.
Seahawks offense needs series change for the game plan two
conservative and predictable JSN got shut down. We did not
have an answer, no more. Darryl Bevel plays, been there,
done that exclamation point and yes, thanks for everybody to
let me know. That's why I love you guys. When
you know what when you when we get something wrong.
(25:20):
Kid thought the game.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Was in Miami. It's in New York. It's a New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Fine, but you guys are listening and let us know
we get something wrong because we'll admit it on the air.
This is a weird thing by the Seahawks beating the
Falcons on Sunday. It actually helps the Rams because Atlanta
traded their first round pick to the Rams. So by
Atlanta losing, it moves up and helps the Rams. I
(25:46):
know it sucks, but I'd rather do that than lose
a game, especially when you're in a dead heat right
now for that division title coming up two weeks from tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
So MJ.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Earlier on in the show, you were talking about the
Lions and the important game that's going on tonight between
the Lions and who's playing again Dallas Dallas Cowboys. So
right now I'm trying to find information on it. But MJ,
you know that Aman roys question.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
He's not gonna play. Probably he's not. Oh you don't
think so? Okay, No, I don't think he's playing. But
they got Jamison Williams. They got Jamier Gibbs. And I
actually said that when I made my pick last hour,
I said, they've got enough. I don't expect him to play.
He's questionable, but and I know report is out.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
They don't win the game the night if Jared Goff
doesn't throw for close to three hundred yards and Jamier
Gibbs better run for over one hundred and Jamier Gibbs
better catch for maybe close to eighty. They need a
big game from those guys, including Jamison and Williams. And
Jamison Williams can ball the f out. He is sick,
that dude. I mean, anybody who transfers from Ohio State
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to Alabama, you know, has game. You don't usually get
to transfer in Alabama. You're usually transferring out of Alabama.
And he left Ohio State, and you know why he
left Ohio State. Do you know why why because he
had Chris Olave, Jarrett Wilson and you ever heard of
this guy Jackson Smith and Jig.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But he couldn't get on the field. He couldn't get
on the damn field. So he left it, went to Alabama.
Was a star at Alabama. That's when you know you
got game go ahead, you got an next another one? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
So regarding the guys out in New York, it's gonna
be damn code in New York for a bunch of
dudes from South Florida as well.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Uh yeah, that's true. But I mean, listen, they're pros
on college I think. But yeah, they're pros. They you know,
they are from the Let me see here. Notre Dame
could be on number twelve and the committee would still say, yeah,
but those twelve losses looked really good. Yeah, oh he
meant one in twelve. He didn't do the dash, could
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be one in twelve if you're right they are, oh
in twell, yeah, those twelve losses look really good. The
committee's just enamored with Notre Dame's audience and TV rings,
So I know, tell me you know that that goes
without saying.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
If Alabama loses and already has three losses no matter
what the circumstance, they don't belong. How about not lose
to crappy Florida State. You wouldn't have three losses then, right, Well,
they don't have three losses right now.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
They could have three losses after Saturday, but they don't
have three losses right now. They've got two. But it's
they're Alabama, man. And you know what, I didn't think
they I didn't think that they would get in last year,
and they did get in last year.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
What else we got?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If a team rested starters in a win and another
team doesn't, does the margin of victory mean the same? Well,
not from the critics side, but but and certainly the
computers would Acknow, the computers would look at it as
the same.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But yeah, the computer wouldn't recognize that the other one
team rest of their starters.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
They would not know that. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's where you need some some you know, objective, But
there's nothing objective.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Last one from me.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
If you are the Houston Rockets, shouldn't you be trying
to get Jan's atten to comboat trading? Maybe I don't know.
I'm in Thompson. To be honest, anybody saying goon thoughts MJ.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, shn goon. I'm on to Amen Thompson. How much
else are you gonna give up?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Though? I mean, like you know, but.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, if you got a chance to get a
two time MVP and NBA Finals MVP, you know, you
know they're they're looking at right now. I think the
Knicks should be looking to load up Karl Anthony Towns.
The problem with the Knicks they have no draft capital.
They give it five first round picks from Michale Bridges.
They got no draft capital. So Milwaukee's gonna be like
(29:56):
w t F. You got to give us more than
Karl Anthony Towns. You got Okay, he's on it for
the future. But by the way, by the way, okay,
here's Carl Anthony Towns and Mikhale Bridges. Take them both,
like you know, I mean, yeah, it's uh, it's one
of those things.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Man, let's hear. Uh MJ.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It's been a rough morning. Just want to let you
know I appreciate the laughs. You're funny. You sound like
Dick Vital Uh need I uh need to open one
for the ladies and call it banana hammocks espresso. Uh,
there's a coffee shop in Everett that sells quote full
service menu. MJ's new catchphrase should be just go to
(30:37):
a bikina a bikini barista now and thank MJ later.
Ha ha ha A guy who had issues? Are you
talking about bikini barista's? He must be in the car
with his wife whipping sound love that you sound as
giddy as we did for our first time. Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I can't read that one.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Uh. Remember, truth is an absolute defense to libel if
anyone is upset about your rosy O'donnald quote Stephen Abbott esquire.
He gave me his bar number two, so that's pretty good.
We used to go to a coffee stand in Silver
Lake with my mom as kids. Went there once at
seventeen and the girls were wearing only stickers. I said,
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we can't take mom here anymore. They were later shut
down for having an extended tip men you performed in
their storage room. Oh man, that is too funny. Did
you really mention coffee at a something Hut in the
(31:42):
same conversation as Levenworth as Washington Attractions? Yes, I did
go to Levenworth's MLK day weekend fireworks in town Sunday night, MJ.
You want more of that? Head up north and hit
Highway ninety nine. There's one damn every near mile. Uh
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right. Well, we appreciate all the texts today. They
were fun.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
And you guys always hey when you managed? What is
Jim Valvano A? What did the late great Jim Valvano say?
If you laugh, if you think and you cry every day,
that's a hell of a day.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Don't usually I usually try to do two out of three.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Don't usually get the cry in unless I think about
my father or grandfather recently dying. But you gotta at
least think and laugh. Gotta do that two out of three,
I think. Isn't that bad?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
We will talk to the mayor of Maple Valley. Thank
you very much to Bruce Feldman and Dalton Wasserman for
joining us today. Mayor crosstalk next, all right, the gready
Inferness is in the house getting ready for the Kraken
(32:55):
game tonight versus the Edmonton olders up at Rogers Place
and Edmonton and and they got their little kind of
random mini All Star break at the end of November
beginning of December, so they're actually going to play to night.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I hope they better be well rested.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Well, they had three days on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday off
at home, travel Wednesday. So in today's NHL, that's like
a long long break.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Huge but you got but you're working like a madman
the next the rest of the month.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, it's pretty busy.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So of all the places I want to go to Levenworth,
Ted Bundy's house, Jimmy Hendrick's memorial, so many different places
I want to check out.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Unbeknounced to me last night, I stumbled upon a bikini
barista place in SeaTac called Cherry Bomb Espresso.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
That that wasn't a hint cherry Bomb No okay, no, no, no,
it really wasn't.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I just thought that was the name of it. Did
leave MJ four nine four five, Well what I When.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I got to the window, I was like, oh, well,
this isn't this isn't Starbucks this but but it was
a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You haven't been to one of those people, No, you
of all people to one right, I didn't know do
they exist in floor or places like?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
No, no, we have.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Hooters there at least no, you know what I'm saying,
like like peaks, which is here, we have twin peaks here,
but those things like let me tell you something right now,
a franchise does bikini baristas stand here Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Here's the problem. Here's the problem with them.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
First now, I I I have no problem with with them,
Like I'm not going to be that guy and like
try to be like, oh, I look down upon that.
You know what you're making your money, You probably get
great tips if deserved, and so forth. The last time
I went to one, probably, I want to say, it
might have been pre pandemic, like and I only say
that because I know when it was. I was coming
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back from a Seahawk game on a Monday, back from
a road trip. It was one of the flights we
had that was. We probably left our hotel at two
am Pacific, five am Eastern time, somewhere right flu across country.
Cause I do the show, so we land, it's like
ten o'clock in the morning. I land, and I'm like,
I've got to get a coffee man, like I and
I'm a big coffee guy, Like I can't. I cannot,
I cannot function without a couple of cups of like
(35:08):
I I just wanted.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
A white hot chocolate. I don't drink coffee.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, I love coffee and I need it, and it's
you no and I and I you know, I need
it in the morning. In fact, I had my physical
a couple of days ago and it's like, okay, before
I go there, I can't really have a coffee, blood
pressure all that right now. So like I'm just, ah,
I need coffee. So I'm driving along and I'm like,
I'll tell you, from here from the airport to where
we work, there isn't a Starbucks or a legitimate like
(35:33):
a different type of coffee stand that's decent. Right there
just isn't one. It's weird if you come down ninety
nine five o nine and yeah, yeah, well I do
every day. There's nothing like think about there's no coffee.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
There's no one.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
There's one. It's on East Marginal Way. You probably drive
it every day a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah. The ladybug.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Yeah, the ladybug. Okay, and that's that's a bigin you
be reached a place. So I'm driving along, like I
just need coffee. Go through there, and she says, you know,
and I'll like pull up. I'm like, I don't even
care at this point, I just what do you need?
My wife's my wife can see the debit slip, going
to say whatever else says on it. And my wife
thinks Hooters is a strip joint. So that's that tells
you where we're at, right. I'm like, this is what
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we're gonna do anyway, So I go, I'll have a
sixteen ounce double shot, fat free latte.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
It's all I want.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yes, yes, hot, thank you, And so I get it.
It was nine eighty nine. It was like almost ten
dollars for a sixty ounce latte, which is about two
to three dollars more than a normal latte would be.
So I guess you're paying for the scenery. No word
of a lie. It was the worst worst coffee drink
(36:34):
I've ever had. I don't know if there's caffeine in it.
I don't know if there was coffee in it. There
was foamed milk. I know that that's about it. It
was so bad. And I see people every day when
I drive home or drive in. Oh yeah, I lined
up at that place the same place because it's right
before that Georgetown more. Yes, yes, So I'm thinking to myself,
like the person working in there to have people lined
(36:54):
up every day, she must be worth it.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Eleven.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
She must be because the coffee is the worst coffee
you could ever fathom. Wow, awful, Like, I mean, it's awful,
mark and it's overpriced. And I'll tell you right now
what I saw that day wasn't worth it. Well, you
went on a coffee wise and when I saw that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
But you know what you saw, you had a good experience. Wow,
Cherry Bomb Espresso. That that wasn't that place? So Cherry
Bomb Espresso was like the Maybach Bentley kind of Bugatti. Yeah,
this this was allright?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And I just I didn't I'm like, holy coffee, Like, wow,
you know, I just wanted a hot white chocolate.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I was in the mood for a hot white chocolate.
And then I get yeah, I got more than a bargain.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
For Well, you know, you can go go get yourself
another hot water. That might be what they nicknamed you.
Here it comes our guy white chot kid likes that one.
Oh boy, that might be your new handle.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
You think I think you should go for it? Him,
mister blue Choo white chocolate, white chocolate. I like, well,
I think I think that's already.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Uh, Jason Williams, No, hot white chocolate, Okay, hot white chock.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
He's just got white chocolate.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, you put the hot in front of it and
and kid knows, it got assembled to the history of
the NBA. A lot of people don't know who you
know white chocolate was. It's been a while, so, yeah,
it's been it's been a minute. Yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Uh. So what today? What do you got coming up?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
A corpus Fi's going to join us right off the
top of the show talk all things Seahawks's weekly visit
because we're kind of bumping him up because we've got
Brandon Huffman twenty four at seven Sports.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
He'll join us at one twenty to talk recruiting, U
Portal all the stuff that goes on because yesterday it
was the first day of signing period for the for
colleges across the country. You dub had a great day.
We'll talk about the rest of the big ten in
the country as well.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Do you want to hear something crazy?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Do you know right now that Penn State's recruiting class
is below McNee State.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I heard that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
They they they're they're they are so l yeah, they're
in trouble there.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
They don't like Sataki State. Who's who's out there. We're
going to get and you know who I thought they
were get.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
They're guaranteed to get Brian Hartline and he goes to USF. Yeah,
so he's going down to USF. And by the way,
every football coaches job in Florida got tougher because that
dude can recruit.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Yeah, and that's a decent program. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know Penn States in trouble. So we'll talk to
him about that all things recruiting, which our annual VIZ
actually used to be just one annual visit in February.
Now we do one on December, we do one in February.
We'll do a portal one in January. So he's joining
us today. Then last week of fantasy football regular season,
so four nine, four or five one. Get those textans
starting at one o'clock
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