December 11, 2025 • 40 mins
Lincoln Kennedy is back on the show with Marc James, the guys are talking a lot of college football as there is a lot going on! MJ and Kidd hit the text line and read back messages from listeners, and Ian Furness drops in to share what he has planned on his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you die.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That does not mean that you lose to cancer. You
beat cancer by how you live, why you live, and
in the manner in which you live. So live, live,
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fight like hell, and when you get too tired to fight,
then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight
for you. That's also very very important. I can't do this,
don't give up things all by myself. I got thousands
of people on Twitter and on the streets who encourage me.
I got these amazingly wonderful people at ESPN, I got
(00:48):
corporate executives, my bosses, this is true. Who will text
messaging and now say, hey, I heard you at chemotherapy today.
You want me to stop buying the way home from
work and pick you up something to eat and bring
it to you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Seriously, who does that? Whose boss does that? My bosses
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But even with all that, the fight is still much
more difficult than I even realized. What you didn't see
in the piece is what's going on, probably the last
ten days.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I just got out of the hospital this past Friday.
Seven days stay man, I crashed. That's the lake.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Great Stuart Scott his epic sp speech from twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
May he rest in power, Rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
They had a documentary thirty for thirty Last Night on him,
and it was emotional. I got emotional for me just
seeing how he fought and he got cancer, he got
diagnosed with it, and he fought it for seven years
until ultimately it took his life. But boy did he
You know a lot of people with everyone always, you know,
we talk about cliches and things like live every day
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like it's your last. Well, Stuart Scott did that and
he was an inspiration. And you know what, I love
Stuart Scott. I worked with Stuart Scott. I was there,
you know, after he got hit by the jug in
the judge machine at at Jets practice and and and
then he was coming back on a Sunday night to
do the ESPN Sports Center with Dan Patrick and then
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he lost a contact in his eye. He was running
back towards the newsroom and I'm like, what's going on here?
And but may he rest in peace. Stuart Scott was
someone we can all look back at and at his
life and boy, what is it? Was an amazing life?
Joining us right now, guy, no strangers through the show.
(02:40):
It's been a few months since we had him on.
He did does great work, tremendous broadcaster saw him do
the air Force Colorado State game, and he was good
luck for me because I had I had in that game.
I had air Force minus two and a half. Former
Washington Huskies, All American and played over a decade in
the NFL. Three time pro bowler, the great Lincoln, Kenny Lincoln. Good,
(03:03):
good to talk to you, man. I loved your work
on the Colorado State Air Force game.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Thank you so much. I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I guess that was good luck for a team that
was kalorast was struggling to score and air Force ran
all over them.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
So I'm good.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I guess that was a good, little good luck for
things that seem to be obvious, you.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, let's got to do with you.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's good to be with you too, man.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
How uh so, we got a kind of totality to
watch your alma mater this year in the Huskies. And
there were some ups and you know, beating Illinois, downs,
losing to Wisconsin and then of course Ohio State, Michigan
and Oregon, which I mean, but overall, how would you
look at eight and four seasons? Second year for Jetfish
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on Montlake. How would you assess it?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
You know, I look at it like this.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I think that the season, obviously, when you have more
wins and losses, you have to paint that as a success.
But I think what gets secured in a lot of
ways when it comes to college sports is if you're
not competing for a championship, the season is almost remarked
as a failure.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Well, I don't believe in that. I never have and
never will and it doesn't necessarily for me go about.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
What bowl games you were.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I was fortunate enough to have success when I was
in college, but I also know how hard it is
to achieve that success. And when you talk about the
current comment of college sports with nil and everybody having
to make their rosters almost every year complete their rosters,
it's really a challenge that I never imagine what happened
with college football. That being said, back to your question,
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I'm impressed with the season the Husky's had. Yes, it
could have went better, but what has to happen for
any Pac twelve school former Pac twelve school that's merging
into the Big Ten have to understand it's a different
brand of football. To go back to the Midwest, places
like Wisconsin, in Indiana and Michigan and Ohio State in
the late fall and early winter is a different climate
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than playing on the West Coast and really only having
to see rain at the most worst case scenario for
you the teams out of the Pacific Northwest. So with
that being said, you've got to get a activated and
they've got to be able to recruit on that level
or else you're just you're looking, you're outside looking in
at the Ohio States, the Wisconsin even what Indiana did
through nil with Nebraska to used to do back in
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the day. I mean, all those notable universities, you got
to get in line to play their type of ball
when it comes down to it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So what would you think is the next step in
the adjustment for this program to play that type of
brand of football in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
You got to recruit the guys that are prominent in
those places.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I like it, those guys that are.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
That are going to the Nebraskas, that are going to
the Michigan's, Ohio States. You got to recruit that caliber
of guy, whether it's and focus to your offensive line,
whether it's focused on your wide receivers or your defensive backs.
To me, Washington already has it covered with defensive backs
being six foot plus of.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
The season two.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And they've got a long roster of those.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
But you know, you've got to be able to recruit
what's what plays well in those types of environments, and
especially when you have to go back, you have to
travel back to those places because you know, when you
think about it, I don't think this Washington team is
geared to go back. Even though Penn State's down. You
think about some of the traditional times that Penn State had,
if you think about going to state college this time
of year, or if they had to play a game
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right after Thanksgiving back there, it's not their you know,
their cup of teas. So Washington and in many respects,
I think Oregon's kind of made that transformation in it.
But you know, these other Pac twelve schools have got
to get in line with the division that you're playing it.
If it was the Pac twelve and the old day,
I say they're fine the way their roster is. Continue
to build that, but it does not compete when you
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talk about slowing down the game, going back in inclement
weather in the Midwest or places you know, the far past,
the Rockies where the weather becomes an issue and playing
through it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Lincoln Kennedy and joining us here on MJ and the
Midday sele Sports Leader ninety three to three KJRFM. You
came in here early in the season and you did
a game, I believe for Big ten Network, and you
got to see over the course of the season to
Man Williams, and you know, he looks, you know, like
a world beater. You know against you see Davis in
Colorado State, those holes closed much quicker against Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And Oregon, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Right are they?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Rac and Caleb downs?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now we're you know, and it's like it's like whoa so?
And I like what you said, Lincoln, because you're so
right that it is. And Dan Lanning and you know,
Dan Lanning has been here longer than Jetfish has been
here at UTUB I mean Jetfish came in. He came
in and this is not this is not a knock it.
I mean, this is the world of college football. But
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you came in and you have to recreate an entire
new roster everybody, you know, So Dan Lanning had a
two year head start on that, and plus the guy
there before Dan Lanning left that cupboard kind of full
Mario crystal Ball. He left some talent there too, so
so but to get to get to the gold standard
for Washington and the team that and and they hate
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Washington because I when game day was there, when they
when USC went to town and the fans there on
game day are chanting f the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That tell that's respect to me. The day put.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Washington up there. But how do you like that, Dan Lanning?
How long will it take to get to that level
of four and five star elite depth chart talent.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
We also got to remember that Dan Lanning and and
Oregon has the backing of Nike, which which has that
big those bag pockets when it comes to nil. Look,
that's what today's climbate is. If you want to have
the best team, it's going around, whether it's and it's
not just Oregon, I mean Ohio State. Last year is
reported that their NIL commitment to their players are twenty
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eight million dollars and they win a national championship. Well,
you magnify that, you time that by by three. Texas
the Longhorns came in projected to they were spending upwards
of seventy five million in IL. It's become a modern
day free agency. So when you look at these rosters,
you literally you have have to have deep pockets to
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put them.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Together in order to compete.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
To answer your question, because if you have that financial
backing like Oregon has, you can go out there and
get those players because a lot of them are going
to the highest bidders. It's just the way it is.
And look, I told coach. I told coach when I
saw them for the honorary captain for the Purdue game
versus Washington. We sat down and said, look, I envy
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what you, coach, the staffs are trying to do because
I think it's almost near impossible to get in line.
They have to complete your roster through the transfer portal
every single season. How do you possibly build a program
you know you're taking it. It's almost impossible. You're doing
nothing but taking free agents, and that's what you're trying
to build a team about around that. So when you
ask me about the season and how the Huskies did,
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absolutely I'm proud that.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
They're going to a bowl game.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Absolutely, I'm proud that they won more games than they lost.
But in the future, look coach Fish and his staff
are going to have their work cut out from because
you have to be extra ordinary in order to get
in the minds and the hearts of these kids today.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
No question. And you know, and I know listen recruiting.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Even back when you played, you know that a lot
of these recruits, I mean they're kind of like it's
like a beauty pageant and they switched their minds all
and now now that you can legally, you know, ed Orgeron,
former LSU and interim USC coach, they were saying that
he had a funny quote and he I can't do
that accident Lincoln, So I'm not going to try to.
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But he said, he said, hey, you haven't been coaching
for a few years now, like four or five years.
How you can get, you know, just to the nil era.
He goes, Oh, it's simple, He goes, back, before the
nil we went in the back door with money.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Now we just go on the front door.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Got and then and I've heard I've heard recruiting stories. Look,
my son is going through.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It right now.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
He's a junior and looking to go next level and
he's going through the recruiting project right I'm trying to
do my best to keep him grounded. But the thing
is is that I literally been on recruiting calls where
I've had parents say, this university offered us this much money.
How much are you prepared offer us? Wow, that's what
it's coming out to now. I only heard stories like
that when I was growing up out of other conferences
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around the league. You know, guys getting big buckets of
money down the South in Texas Southeastern Conference back in
those days. And of course, you know, I said to
myself that I was on the when I was recruited
back in nineteen eighty eight. I took it upon myself
to say, you know what, this is something that might
be a possibility, but I have to be careful of
because I don't want to go to a program that's
going to get suspended or be put on, you know,
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put on the sub sanctions. And the thing is you
had to look for that and in order. Now, I'm
not dumb. I'm smart enough to know that there were
guys who were getting things. They were getting things under
the table. I'm not saying that didn't happen. We knew
that happened. And I wanted to tread lightly because I
was triading into a world that I was unfamiliar with
when it came to those types of extra benefits. And
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I didn't want to be in a place where you
were on sanctions, where you couldn't go to bowl.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Games or anything else.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
So places like you know, back in the day, Oklahoma
scared me. You know, when you talk, you talk to
see a quarterback on the sideline watching the CBS game.
Quarterback for a sideline for Oklahoma Sooners.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
He's wearing a full length for a code. You know
he didn't buy them on a scholarship check.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Now, so come on, let's not be stupid, you know
what I mean, But that you fast forward to where
it is right now, it is modern day free agency
to me. When you look at college sports, everyone is
looking for the greatest thing, the next greatest thing, and
they're not afraid to jump in the transfer portal to
chase it down.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, your SONSI is a highly toouted twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I listening.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is it like he's two hundred and seventy five pounds
right now?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Wow, he's six six sixty seven.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, he's six six wow, looking at me in the eyes.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Now, I'm six seven, So he just will.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, I think do build a big What can I say?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I build him big?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Hey, Hey, so what's it like now?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Because I got to imagine that, you know, playing there,
especially in Arizona. Not only is he is he a
legacy guy here, but I mean, you've got to be
hearing from Dan Lanning, You've got to be hearing from
Lincoln Riley. I hope if you're not, I'm going to
get in phone with Dan Radikovich today. Make sure Mario
Crystal Ball is reaching out to the Kennedy family.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Look.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Look, look, he's got another year senior year, and the
recruiting process has already started for him, and he's got
a couple of offers.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
But you know, that'll handle itself. I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I just trying to keep my.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Little man aground it. And I say, a little man.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Heared to me.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
He's still a little prepared to me, and I let
him be known every time.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I don't care how big you are, I'm still daddy.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
I can weep that ass anyways. But that's that's just me.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But on a serious note, you know, the thing I'm
most proud of it with Ty is that he's a
four point student and he's a straight edge student that
can write his own ticket anywhere he wants to go.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
And I'm I'm with him.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I'm allowing him to enjoy the process because every kid
would like the attention.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Come on, let's be realistic.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So I'm not ignoring that or escaping that. But everybody's
been talking to him.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
People have already come up to me and God got
in my ear and I'm telling him quickly, you're not
recruiting me.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
You were coming young. So whatever you.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Want to say, I know I've been through the process.
I told Ty this when when we were talking about
I've been through everything that you're going through and then some.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
But it's not up to me.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
This is a place where he's going to walk on
the campus, hopefully take a visit on a place, and
he's going to say, you know what, I can see
myself here, just like.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I did when I came to Seattle many many, many
moons ago.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
So how does he feel about you, Dubb?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He likes you, Dubb.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He's always liked Washington, He's always.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Liked Seattle to the times we went up there.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So I mean, I think that they're going to be
seriously any consideration. But as the same point, I've told him,
you've got to be patient because there are so many
things that are changing. There's nowhere a world that's just definite,
and you know, look at the possibility.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Let's say, Jeffson, I'm not saying this is happening.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
So don't want anybody call me up said, what have
you heard? But well, let's just suppose that Jeff Fish
takes a job somewhere else. Sure, then a new coach
comes in. Maybe he doesn't like Ty, maybe Ty's doesn't.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Fit his system.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
To recruit, I don't want people to recruit my son
because of what I achieved or who I am. I
want them to recruit recruit my son off of what
his merits and what he demands. I mean, what he do,
what he can control, and more importantly, I want him
to go to a program program that will most utilize
him in the best way, in the best possible manner.
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He still got a lot of growing to do with football.
I know that, and I see that, but I'm hoping
that a serious enough coach and a serious enough program
will take him serious enough to when he goes there
he feels comfortable in spite of all the possibilities and
changes with nil transferport all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know what I mean, no question speaking to Lincoln Kennedy,
the proud father of Ty Kennedy six six, two hundred
and seventy five pounds on a Mountain View High School
in Mace, Arizona, and I gotta tell you, you know,
I mean, I don't need to. You know, everybody in
Purple and Gold would like to see you know, Tie
playing his college ball Saturdays on Mottlake.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I mean you know that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, but like you said, but you, like you said,
he want you want your son to choose his own path.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Peyton Manning go back to that, you know thirty something
years ago when Heyte Manning's coming on New Orleans him
and his family, he got like death threats when he
chose Tennessee overall miss Yeah, because he didn't do what
he dad did, right, So you know that's right? Yeah,
But it worked out for him, I think, don't you
why without adults?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Look, here's the thing I had this.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I had this conversation with my eldest Zach, when he
was just talking by where to go, and he had
asked my insight, and I said, you know, what here is, Zach.
I can't tell you where to go. I mean I can't.
I won't tell you because this is your life. You
have to make that decision. I made what was best
for me, and it turned out to be rewarding going
to Washington and of course my career afterwards. But everyone's different.
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Zach chose his path through USC. He graduated three and
a half years, he's been going on to be a success. Well,
how can I possibly have a problem with that? You know,
whether my son choose a Stanford, Washington, Cow or any
of the other great schools. How could I ever have
a problem with someone paying for a higher education, because
that's all I want for my son. So yes, I
would love to see him in a Husky uniform. But
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at the same point, it's not it's not at the
point where I'm pushing that.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And like, hey, think about the hushy, considerative Hussys.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Because he's going to come to me and say, Dad,
I like this place and I like that place, which
I would respect and appreciate more rather than me trying
to tell him where to go.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Oh, it's truer words never spoken. That's and it's awesome
to have you to guide him. Now, I gotta ask
you this. I got to ask Dad a question.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Here.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
There's a guy out of Missouri who just won the
USA Today and Gatorade National High School Player of the Year.
He's the number one O lineman in America named Jackson
Cantwell out of Missouri. He he's going to the Universe
of Miami. He's getting two million dollars stepping for on campus.
Now I want to go back to the I want
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to pretend let's go ahead and put Lincoln Kennedy in
the NIL era. If Jackson can't, Will is getting two million.
Lincoln Kennedy he might be getting four million coming out
of high school I'm getting.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I'm getting my name and face likeness on an elect.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
An airline spot or something out of something out of
the specific Northwest.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I'm gonna have.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm going to have a I want to have a
boweing a wing out of bow and ring in my honor.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You know, I mean Bill, Bill Gates. I want to
Bill Gates is doing tours. I want you to come
over here to Microsoft. This is the Lincoln Kennedy wing
over here at Microsoft.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Ablutely.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I love it, and just make sure you put my
likeness in a video game that's truly depicts my my
abilities and my in my and what I look like.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
So I mean I would go for it.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I think I've had often jested with a lot of
the guys back in the day from from our time
in Washington, and we talked about being in an IL
and I.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Just said, man, I would have been a god.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And I you know, hey, you know what's funny.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But you know it's funny like when I talk about
players who might have missed the n I l I
think you know, Zion Williamson, Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Tim Tebow, Tim Tebow, Uh, Matt Lioner.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And then I then I for then I was like, oh, man,
Reggie Bush and go wait, Reggie got that an alogist
wasn't legal.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Reggie got his money.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
He got his money.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
He got him than IL before it happened.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
No doubt, no doubt that great.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Look, here here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
What's the surprise of the MJ And all my my
travels with enjoining college for football work. I see I
pull up on campuses, and I see freshmen get out
of Bentley Truck's, you know, and and and it's the
way of the world. It's it's it's how, it's how,
it's how it is. You know, sometimes you can make
the argument that guys are taking a pay cut if
they go into the professional ranks from college because because
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you have to start off a little bit smaller, these
guys don't want to leave college and with the new rules,
paid the way they are when juco credits on count
against your overall state. We've got guys that was stay
in college for seven eight years.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yep, yep, and I don't find them.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's crazy, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Got to ask you in terms of right now, in
terms of odds to be the next Michigan coach, Jed
Fish is fourth and he spent some time at Michigan.
Would it be a big mistake for him to leave
Washington because he hasn't had that signature win here yet.
But at the same time, Lincoln, if you were Jetfish's agent,
this is Michigan. Now you're talking about a blue blood,
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would you understand him being interested in that job if
they called.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Let me tell you something, man, MJ when Alabama that
have freed up their head coach, and of course you
know that was a big opening. I had no doubt
in my mind that Kaylen deer Bor was gonna be
the top of the list. He had only lost two
games at the time. Was Washington and Alabama's a big program,
you know, so.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
You got it.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
You want to satisfy that big sort of flash. As
far as the coaching hire, that makes sense for jet
Fish going forward. I can't look. I love Washington. I
think Washington is equal to a program like Michigan and
Ohio State or one of those.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Alabama, I think it's equal.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It doesn't have the presence, I understand, doesn't.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Have the sports the presidents that a lot of those
teams did recently.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I get that, But to me.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Washington was always a premier at school when it came
to football. They were just needed some help to get
crossover the plane. And that's what Don James sold me
and my recruiting trip. We're awfully close to beating those
scs and those teams that you see always in the
Rose Bowl, and that was their go back then. It
wasn't winning a national championship. With that being said, I
didn't want to go to sc and ride on other
people's cotails and success. I wanted to create a path
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of my own. We're better to do that with a
place that's close to take in the next step. I
say that to say this, Michigan is a big program.
I would never fault any coach selfishly speaking, of course,
I would love Jeff Fish to stay and build a
program in the Washington because I think he's been good
for us. But I wouldn't fault any coach for stepping up.
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There are jobs that you just can't turn away from.
And like when it comes to basketball, you don't turn
down Duke or Kentucky or Kansas if you're a basketball coach,
when it comes to football places you don't turn down.
And I think that's I think Michigan is up there
one of them. So I couldn't fall to me either way.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Final thought, Lincoln Kennedy, I can't tell you how much
I love talking to you. I wish I could talk
to you every week, But I know you're busy, got time,
you got your dad, you got a lot of things
going on. But I gotta I gotta ask you this
you mentioned. I'm glad you mentioned him because Hugh Millan,
who you know very well. You guys are part of
Washington Husky Royalty. He often so tells me that Don
James was more of a father to him. He said
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this on the air, than his own dad. Any how
great of a person, can you tell me? And you
can give me a sentence, an essay as long as
what did Don James mean to Lincoln Kennedy?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Don James taught me what it meant to have integrity,
to be a man of your word.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
My situation, my history is.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Is that when I was being recruited, I was I
wanted to be recruited as a defensive lineman because when
I started playing footba at a young age, my idol
was at T tall Jones number seventy two for the Cowboys.
Why worse than me to in the league, And so
I wanted to be that defensive lineman. And yes I
played both ways in high school, but defensive guys got
all the glory, They got the names.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
In the paper for making a sack and all of
that stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I wanted to be that guy.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I went to Washington and I asked all the schools
that I narrowed my final choices down to. I said,
recruit me as a defensive lineman, and you have a deal.
And of course there were a lot of people who
obviously want to recruit me as an offensive lineman and
stuff like that, but Washington was one that agreed to
recruit me as a defensive line. Long story short. In
my red shirt freshman year, I don't think. I think
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we went six and five. We missed out on the Bowl,
which broke the snap of bolt games that Washington had.
Prior to that. Don James said he was making changes.
He was going to go over to Keith Gilverson for offense.
Lambrady was going to change the defense. He came to
me and he said, look, we recruit he as a
defensive lineman.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
You could stay on the defensive line, but you're probably
not going to play that much.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
And that's just a choice that you have to make
if you go over to the offensive side. Our offensive
coach really likes he thinks that she can be useful
over there. Make the switch offense. I had a conversation
with some people that are close in my circle. Made
the switch to offense. The rest is history. The integrity
part comes is that Don James would not move me,
and he gave me the option of saying where I
wanted to go, and that really enthralled and really and
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connected me to him personally, because I thought that was huge.
He didn't have to do that. Everyone I told me,
he said, they can move you where they want. They
got you, they owned you, they can do where they want.
But he came to me and he gave me the option,
the choice, and I will never forget that. It's one
of the things, one of the reasons why I have
so much respect for his legacy.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Very well, said Lincoln Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We really appreciate you taking the time, and we'll be
rooting for Tie obviously. We know that he got he
got an offer recently, right, I got offered from Dubs,
So we'll be we'll be keeping our eyes on him.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And uh, I mean do that last thing.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Do you have other high schools trying to recruit him now,
like a Bishop Gorman and all that.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Oh, they all they all wanted to recruit him here. Yeah,
all the big powerhouse pisterers that are doing that.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Really funny with my son, and he had to get
a kick. I told him when when what was it was?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
There was one school that came to him and I said, look,
if you want to go to the school, I'll certainly
support it, but you know, you have to live with
a foster family.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
And he's like, wait a minute, I'm not giving up
my room. I'm not giving up my space. I want
to live with a foster family. I want to live with.
I said, well, I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Not going to take you to a school thirty forty
five minutes away from my house every day, So you
wanna have to move with somebody live down there. I mean,
that's what the big programs are doing with it, with
these kids and these sports.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
And he's like, no, I'll be cool here. So he
said his own high school. He likes it there.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Anyways.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All right, well, we'll be rooting for him and look
forward to talking soon. In Husky's Boise State buck Up
LA Bowl on Saturday, five o'clock would be the only
football game going on the entire world.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So we'll be.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Watching, definitely, I'll be watching, looking forward to us. He
bring up a win.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
All right, thank you so much, Lincoln. We really appreciate it.
I have a good one in right, all right, it's
a great Lincoln Kennedy. Man, he's the best. All right,
we will come back. What do you say? Text of
the day, so much things there to Parson and what
he said about Don James I obviously never got a
chance to meet the late great Don James. But everything
I've heard from Hugh Millen and Lincoln Kennedy and anybody
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who's described them, whether you hear from Mario Bailey on
the Husky Hawks and Greg Lewis, those guys, wow, just
he was one of the greats.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
There's no doubt about it. What do you say?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Text to Day brought to you by Boris Head coming
up next. All right, thanks again too, Lincoln Kennedy, Charles
Davis out, we got a winner. I want to thank
KJR Radio. I just picked up my sixty five in
screen TV. Thank you again. You're the best. Jerry and Allen,
so see you do. There are winners.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You do win. We're not just doing this. It's yeah,
and congratulations to you.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Seahawks are gonna blow out the Rams next Thursday.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Lock Wow, all right kid, all right, let's see here
a great interview. MJ. Charles David is my favorite analyst.
Dude is all class, so insightful and seems like such
a gentleman. Oh, he is such a gentleman. There's no doubt.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
This is one time, one game that Philip Rivers should
and I quote pull.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Out that was gold. That's just kind of a wait
for the d I'm like, oh, that was a good one.
That was that is good wow wow, Oh my lord.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That is too too funny, too too funny. Hey listen,
I mean, I'm just like, I'm gonna go buy NC
double a dot com now and I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
To get into it with Husky Fans dot com.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
And for those of you that want to tell me
that Washington's won to know, they haven't. No, they haven't.
And by the way, you know who will back me
up on this. Hugh Millen will back me up on this.
Nineteen sixty Minnesota and Ole miss split the national title
on the AP NFF whatever the hell that is, oh,
(28:24):
National Football Foundation UPI and Football Writers Association of America.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So I know you claim it. I've talked to you
about this.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You got one national title, So don't sit here and
tell me I'm factually incorrect. I'm going by NC double
a dot com slash history slash football slash FBS.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I don't see Washington's name. That's it.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
You got one. You split it with Miami, and that's it. Okay, Like,
don't don't get into it. You got to understand when
it comes to college football. I have two SEC degrees
and an ACC degree. I know about college football like
it's my number that in the NFL are like I
live my life for college football in the NFL. So again,
(29:08):
you're gonna need a bigger boat if you're gonna win
an argument against me, A lot bigger boat. I mean,
you better make sure that mother is like Carnival cruise
line boat.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Philip Rivers got a chance? What about Cam Newton?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Because a lot of people can misc and screw and
only thing you can do is ask, but what's your
career and all the things that you're doing in media?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Do you come off like you're available? What state the Kings?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Then?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Bro, Philip Rivers, why are you asking me to do
something that everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Else didn't do? There's your answer? Is that a yes
or no? I don't I'm trying to you know, Is
that a yes or no? I mean, like, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Did Philip Rivers indicate that he was ready to come
back to the field, And no, he did not.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
He just was coaching, that's true. And they called him
and they called him, but he's familiar.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Listen, he's familiar and he played and you know, by
the way, if there's one person that could come back
in the NFL after being off for a while, be
Cam Newton.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well that was his point. Well that's what I was
working out. He's done.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Yeah, he's he's he's actually doing something.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
My man was coaching.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
And that's so when someone sent them a text message
of Cam never announces a time mass, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Right exactly now, I got it. Uh do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Let's see UW does U DUB has one and it's
shared And as a UDUB fan, I think it's a
joke that we claim one that's from somebody in the
three six so area code.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Last one for me.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
I hope Philip Rivers doesn't run down the field wine
and cry like you did in the past plays.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But other than that, I'm okay with it. Do you
remember what he's talking about.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
I think it was, Oh yeah, he was running the
field barking at somebody that threw like a forty hour
pass because he's a trash talk right here.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh yeah, yeah he was. He was, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
What do you say, what's the difference between a hotel
and a motel? I love Best Western and Red Line
in but because of the parking lot. Someone said that
it makes it a motel hotel over motel. Now the
Red Lion, And I've done my research on this because
when I first got to Seattle and I was here
for the ninety five Final Four, we stayed at the
Red Lion. But back then the Red Lion is what
(31:24):
now at seed Tech Airport is now the Double Tree.
That's what the Red Lion used to be. So don't
look at the Red Lion now. I stayed when the
Red Lion was the current Double Tree, the current Double Tree. Okay,
so just saying, just saying, we're still doing Fantasy today, guys.
Tomorrow we will have Ian Ritchie by the Way short
(31:46):
show tomorrow because they're doing an hour from Radio Row,
so we'll be on from ten to noon tomorrow. Ian
Richie or Sean Cruisin will be on with me tomorrow
at eleven. Let's see, Wow, you don't have to try
in big time on the air. When I get no
chance to respond, I admit I made a mistake, but
to be fair, I'm trying to look bleep up with
(32:08):
one hand while I build a custom shower with the
other one.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And you have a full PC in front of you.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
No, no, no, no, no, dude, dude, listen, I didn't need to
look it up to know that Washington wasn't in two
national championships in the last decade. You said that. I
knew it wasn't true. I know they went to two
playoffs in the last decade. You said they went to
two national titles in the last decade. Didn't need to
look that one up. By the way, if you ever
want to not that I drink. But if you ever
(32:34):
want to pull me over and you want to give
me a duy test, okay, just ask me college football stuff,
national championships, Heisman Trophy, winners, whatever, to any like.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I will get them all. I will get them all.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And by the way, just so you know, Nelson, you
can't claim nineteen sixty. You can't claim it because I'm
looking at NCAA dot Com and it says Minnesota in
Mississippi doesn't really look like Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
There just saying, and if you don't.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Believe, if you're gonna claim that one, I'm gonna go
with a guy who actually played at the program, who
was a starting quarterback and was a captain, who doesn't
even claim that one. And he's on this station almost
every day and he doesn't even claim that one. So
again you got one. Be thankful that back then they
didn't have a playoff system, because I got news for you,
(33:27):
Gino Toretta the Heisman Trophy wear the following year, Lamar Thomas,
Stephen McGuire, James Littleman, Stuart Oh, did you ever hear
of Warren sapp the Rock? I mean we could go
on the Bermuda triangle of Michael Barrow, Jesse Armstead and
Darren Smith. Come on, I mean we'll never know. We
(33:49):
can debate it all day long, but we'll never know.
I'll take the ape. You guys got the UPI and
we can just like Michigan split it with Nebraska in
ninety seven. That's what do you say? Text of the
day to you by Bor said? Bors said, committed to
crap since nineteen o five. All right, thanks again to
Charles Davis and Lincoln Kennedy for joining us today. Tomorrow
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ten the Noon's Show, and then Jets and Greg Bell
will be on live from Radio Row in I believe
Philadelphia for Army Navy on Radio Row. So we'll talk
to them tomorrow. Got you know when the mayor speaks
it's such words of wisdom, Ian Furness, and he told
me this, and it's like I have now. You know, Ian,
I mentioned at the beginning of the show, and you.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Told me this.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
It's almost long. It's funny. Everything you said comes true.
You're like a freaking prophet, you really are. And yeah,
tell the wife that. And I said, Ian, I said, well,
you know what. First of all, I said, Hey, here's
the thing. If Michigan comes calling for Jetfish, I don't
blame him.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I don't blame him. It's just a bigger and a
better job.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And I go twelve national champions to one, and then
they start claiming the nineteen sixty and I'm like, and
then I go to ncdouble a dot com, like, let
me just say something to all of you, because not
all Husky fans, but let me just say something. You
didn't win the national title in nineteen sixty. It was
split between Minnesota and Ole miss You didn't win it.
(35:19):
You like, do your fact, Like, go to ncdouble a
dot com. You got credit for one. It was in
ninety one that you split with Miami. And that is it. Okay,
that is it. In another thing, let me say this too,
he and I talked about it. You're not a blue blood.
Blue blood programs are USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame.
(35:41):
And there's a couple, let me tell you this, Miami,
Florida and Florida State, and they have eleven national titles combined.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
None of them are blue bloods, none of them. They're
not a blue bloods.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Blue Bloods goes back decades and decades and winning national titles,
and those are blue blood ce to me when I
think of blue blood us C is what comes to mind.
Heisman Trophy winners, national titles. They're as blue blood as
it gets. And now I'm gonna say that's all I'm
gonna say. And and that's it. But to claim you
want to go ahead and claim nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
N C double A's not claiming it.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
So I'm gonna go I think they're a little bit
more factually correct than you are me.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
You guess you must have Lincoln Kennedy on today.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
No, No, I did, But we didn't talk about that.
Oh okay, we didn't talk. No, I'm just these are
just people on the time. Oh we go to you, No, you.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Didn't like I just I did a thing with Mike
Parker's voice the Oregon State Beavers. I did something on
his show a little while ago, and you know the
thing that with you know, he was talking about, you know,
do you bring somebody in and he was talking about
our job, and I'll relate it to Washington, you know,
bring somebody in and what if they leave? And I'm like, whatever, man,
people leave. It's just the state of the state of
college football. There's very few jobs that you don't leave
(36:57):
unless they ask you to leave. There's very, very, very
very few jobs like that. And when they say you
don't leave one of those things, you don't leave unless
it's going to the NFL. Jim Harbaugh left Michigan to
go to the National Football League, which is I think
we would all agree any NFL job right now as
a head coach is better than any college job as
(37:17):
a head coach if for no other reason, you coach football.
You make personnel evaluations, you do game planning, you do
all things football. You don't have to shake hands with
boosters and kiss someone's backside so you can get some
nil money. You don't have to worry about an eighteen
year old kid coming in your office saying, hey, I
think I should get paid more as the third string
(37:39):
quarterback or I'll transfer. You don't have to deal with
any of that stuff as an NFL coach. I bring
that up because I know our buddy Cam Cleveland said
that Mike McDonald should be somebody that should be looking
at the Michigan job.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And I just I about fell out of the cherry yesterday.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I said, no you no me, step down, step away way.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Lax fell out, like now, maybe you just hold my
maybe eight the Seahawks. You want Mike McDonald go. Right
If I was a Rams fan, I'd say, man, Mike
McDonald should go to the the Michigan right now. Mike
McDonald is gonna make more money in the NFL and
have less headache yep than going back to a school
where he was at briefly as an assistant. Like just
no your head, no shake, no thing, No NFL job,
(38:22):
there's no NFL job like you could, you could. What's
the worst NFL job right now?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I would say maybe Cleveland or the Raiders is not
really great right now.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I'll say the Saints is bad.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Kellen Moore, Yeah, but you know what, you're better off
there dealing with all the stuff I just talked to him.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
And then you get to college and you get to
deal with other stuff where you go.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
So yeah, so for for for me, you just got
to look at you have to look at just this.
I mean, Mike McDonald succeeded Pete Carroll, who won a
Super Bowl. Mike McDonald shouldn't be succeeding Sharon Moore. I
love your laugh and I'm glad.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I'd just it's just going in and saying, boy, let's see,
I've got Sam Darnold under contract. We drafted Jalen Miller
like Drew Locke. But you know what, I'd rather go
into ann Arbor, Michigan and grovel the Bryce Underwood.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Just stay another year.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
And by the way, Ian, I want to say one
thing and thank you. I would be remiss obviously the
numero uno blue blood Alabama, that's just blue blood as
it gets.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
I think I think Ohio State goes in that category.
I'll just I'll bring up a name Archie Griffin for example.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh two time Heisman Trophy winner, Yeah, only one. So yeah,
that's the right. What do you got coming up today?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Now?
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Well, we're gonna talk a little bit about the Searon
Moore thing, bigger picture stuff. It's just wow, kind of
nauseates me a little bit on a lot of different levels.
But we'll get to that coming up. The enabling of
people these days is crazy. Our guy Corbin Smith joins
Just one twenty talks Seahawks and their game this weekend
against came to say this with straight faced up rivers.
(39:52):
And then, of course it's the first week for most
people in fantasy football playoffs. The unofficial start of the
weekend at two o'clock, random fundsen over your teen next
four nine, four five one starting at one o'clock phone
calls it too, and then also and then added bonus
today at two thirty The dumbest thing you'll hear today.
We bring this in every now and then, we have it,
(40:13):
and it's been a couple maybe about a month since
we had it, but Anders and I found something today.
It's the dumbest thing you'll hear today. We all need
that on with everything going on in the world. So yeah,
we'll get to that too.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'm gonna nominate something I saw on the text line
them saying Washington's a blue blood.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's the dumbest thing I heard today.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Well it's not that it's something else, but it has
to do with the West Coast School and to coach,
so we'll get to that all right.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Fair enough. Hey, I have a different definition of blue blood.
Stay tuned for the mayor
When you die.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That does not mean that you lose to cancer. You
beat cancer by how you live, why you live, and
in the manner in which you live. So live, live,
(00:24):
fight like hell, and when you get too tired to fight,
then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight
for you. That's also very very important. I can't do this,
don't give up things all by myself. I got thousands
of people on Twitter and on the streets who encourage me.
I got these amazingly wonderful people at ESPN, I got
(00:48):
corporate executives, my bosses, this is true. Who will text
messaging and now say, hey, I heard you at chemotherapy today.
You want me to stop buying the way home from
work and pick you up something to eat and bring
it to you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Seriously, who does that? Whose boss does that? My bosses
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But even with all that, the fight is still much
more difficult than I even realized. What you didn't see
in the piece is what's going on, probably the last
ten days.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I just got out of the hospital this past Friday.
Seven days stay man, I crashed. That's the lake.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Great Stuart Scott his epic sp speech from twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
May he rest in power, Rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
They had a documentary thirty for thirty Last Night on him,
and it was emotional. I got emotional for me just
seeing how he fought and he got cancer, he got
diagnosed with it, and he fought it for seven years
until ultimately it took his life. But boy did he
You know a lot of people with everyone always, you know,
we talk about cliches and things like live every day
(01:57):
like it's your last. Well, Stuart Scott did that and
he was an inspiration. And you know what, I love
Stuart Scott. I worked with Stuart Scott. I was there,
you know, after he got hit by the jug in
the judge machine at at Jets practice and and and
then he was coming back on a Sunday night to
do the ESPN Sports Center with Dan Patrick and then
(02:19):
he lost a contact in his eye. He was running
back towards the newsroom and I'm like, what's going on here?
And but may he rest in peace. Stuart Scott was
someone we can all look back at and at his
life and boy, what is it? Was an amazing life?
Joining us right now, guy, no strangers through the show.
(02:40):
It's been a few months since we had him on.
He did does great work, tremendous broadcaster saw him do
the air Force Colorado State game, and he was good
luck for me because I had I had in that game.
I had air Force minus two and a half. Former
Washington Huskies, All American and played over a decade in
the NFL. Three time pro bowler, the great Lincoln, Kenny Lincoln. Good,
(03:03):
good to talk to you, man. I loved your work
on the Colorado State Air Force game.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Thank you so much. I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I guess that was good luck for a team that
was kalorast was struggling to score and air Force ran
all over them.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
So I'm good.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I guess that was a good, little good luck for
things that seem to be obvious, you.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, let's got to do with you.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's good to be with you too, man.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
How uh so, we got a kind of totality to
watch your alma mater this year in the Huskies. And
there were some ups and you know, beating Illinois, downs,
losing to Wisconsin and then of course Ohio State, Michigan
and Oregon, which I mean, but overall, how would you
look at eight and four seasons? Second year for Jetfish
(03:46):
on Montlake. How would you assess it?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
You know, I look at it like this.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I think that the season, obviously, when you have more
wins and losses, you have to paint that as a success.
But I think what gets secured in a lot of
ways when it comes to college sports is if you're
not competing for a championship, the season is almost remarked
as a failure.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Well, I don't believe in that. I never have and
never will and it doesn't necessarily for me go about.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
What bowl games you were.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I was fortunate enough to have success when I was
in college, but I also know how hard it is
to achieve that success. And when you talk about the
current comment of college sports with nil and everybody having
to make their rosters almost every year complete their rosters,
it's really a challenge that I never imagine what happened
with college football. That being said, back to your question,
(04:31):
I'm impressed with the season the Husky's had. Yes, it
could have went better, but what has to happen for
any Pac twelve school former Pac twelve school that's merging
into the Big Ten have to understand it's a different
brand of football. To go back to the Midwest, places
like Wisconsin, in Indiana and Michigan and Ohio State in
the late fall and early winter is a different climate
(04:52):
than playing on the West Coast and really only having
to see rain at the most worst case scenario for
you the teams out of the Pacific Northwest. So with
that being said, you've got to get a activated and
they've got to be able to recruit on that level
or else you're just you're looking, you're outside looking in
at the Ohio States, the Wisconsin even what Indiana did
through nil with Nebraska to used to do back in
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the day. I mean, all those notable universities, you got
to get in line to play their type of ball
when it comes down to it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So what would you think is the next step in
the adjustment for this program to play that type of
brand of football in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
You got to recruit the guys that are prominent in
those places.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I like it, those guys that are.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
That are going to the Nebraskas, that are going to
the Michigan's, Ohio States. You got to recruit that caliber
of guy, whether it's and focus to your offensive line,
whether it's focused on your wide receivers or your defensive backs.
To me, Washington already has it covered with defensive backs
being six foot plus of.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
The season two.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And they've got a long roster of those.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
But you know, you've got to be able to recruit
what's what plays well in those types of environments, and
especially when you have to go back, you have to
travel back to those places because you know, when you
think about it, I don't think this Washington team is
geared to go back. Even though Penn State's down. You
think about some of the traditional times that Penn State had,
if you think about going to state college this time
of year, or if they had to play a game
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right after Thanksgiving back there, it's not their you know,
their cup of teas. So Washington and in many respects,
I think Oregon's kind of made that transformation in it.
But you know, these other Pac twelve schools have got
to get in line with the division that you're playing it.
If it was the Pac twelve and the old day,
I say they're fine the way their roster is. Continue
to build that, but it does not compete when you
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talk about slowing down the game, going back in inclement
weather in the Midwest or places you know, the far past,
the Rockies where the weather becomes an issue and playing
through it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Lincoln Kennedy and joining us here on MJ and the
Midday sele Sports Leader ninety three to three KJRFM. You
came in here early in the season and you did
a game, I believe for Big ten Network, and you
got to see over the course of the season to
Man Williams, and you know, he looks, you know, like
a world beater. You know against you see Davis in
Colorado State, those holes closed much quicker against Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And Oregon, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Right are they?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Rac and Caleb downs?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now we're you know, and it's like it's like whoa so?
And I like what you said, Lincoln, because you're so
right that it is. And Dan Lanning and you know,
Dan Lanning has been here longer than Jetfish has been
here at UTUB I mean Jetfish came in. He came
in and this is not this is not a knock it.
I mean, this is the world of college football. But
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you came in and you have to recreate an entire
new roster everybody, you know, So Dan Lanning had a
two year head start on that, and plus the guy
there before Dan Lanning left that cupboard kind of full
Mario crystal Ball. He left some talent there too, so
so but to get to get to the gold standard
for Washington and the team that and and they hate
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Washington because I when game day was there, when they
when USC went to town and the fans there on
game day are chanting f the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That tell that's respect to me. The day put.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Washington up there. But how do you like that, Dan Lanning?
How long will it take to get to that level
of four and five star elite depth chart talent.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
We also got to remember that Dan Lanning and and
Oregon has the backing of Nike, which which has that
big those bag pockets when it comes to nil. Look,
that's what today's climbate is. If you want to have
the best team, it's going around, whether it's and it's
not just Oregon, I mean Ohio State. Last year is
reported that their NIL commitment to their players are twenty
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eight million dollars and they win a national championship. Well,
you magnify that, you time that by by three. Texas
the Longhorns came in projected to they were spending upwards
of seventy five million in IL. It's become a modern
day free agency. So when you look at these rosters,
you literally you have have to have deep pockets to
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put them.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Together in order to compete.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
To answer your question, because if you have that financial
backing like Oregon has, you can go out there and
get those players because a lot of them are going
to the highest bidders. It's just the way it is.
And look, I told coach. I told coach when I
saw them for the honorary captain for the Purdue game
versus Washington. We sat down and said, look, I envy
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what you, coach, the staffs are trying to do because
I think it's almost near impossible to get in line.
They have to complete your roster through the transfer portal
every single season. How do you possibly build a program
you know you're taking it. It's almost impossible. You're doing
nothing but taking free agents, and that's what you're trying
to build a team about around that. So when you
ask me about the season and how the Huskies did,
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absolutely I'm proud that.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
They're going to a bowl game.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Absolutely, I'm proud that they won more games than they lost.
But in the future, look coach Fish and his staff
are going to have their work cut out from because
you have to be extra ordinary in order to get
in the minds and the hearts of these kids today.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
No question. And you know, and I know listen recruiting.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Even back when you played, you know that a lot
of these recruits, I mean they're kind of like it's
like a beauty pageant and they switched their minds all
and now now that you can legally, you know, ed Orgeron,
former LSU and interim USC coach, they were saying that
he had a funny quote and he I can't do
that accident Lincoln, So I'm not going to try to.
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But he said, he said, hey, you haven't been coaching
for a few years now, like four or five years.
How you can get, you know, just to the nil era.
He goes, Oh, it's simple, He goes, back, before the
nil we went in the back door with money.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Now we just go on the front door.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Got and then and I've heard I've heard recruiting stories. Look,
my son is going through.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It right now.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
He's a junior and looking to go next level and
he's going through the recruiting project right I'm trying to
do my best to keep him grounded. But the thing
is is that I literally been on recruiting calls where
I've had parents say, this university offered us this much money.
How much are you prepared offer us? Wow, that's what
it's coming out to now. I only heard stories like
that when I was growing up out of other conferences
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around the league. You know, guys getting big buckets of
money down the South in Texas Southeastern Conference back in
those days. And of course, you know, I said to
myself that I was on the when I was recruited
back in nineteen eighty eight. I took it upon myself
to say, you know what, this is something that might
be a possibility, but I have to be careful of
because I don't want to go to a program that's
going to get suspended or be put on, you know,
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put on the sub sanctions. And the thing is you
had to look for that and in order. Now, I'm
not dumb. I'm smart enough to know that there were
guys who were getting things. They were getting things under
the table. I'm not saying that didn't happen. We knew
that happened. And I wanted to tread lightly because I
was triading into a world that I was unfamiliar with
when it came to those types of extra benefits. And
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I didn't want to be in a place where you
were on sanctions, where you couldn't go to bowl.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Games or anything else.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
So places like you know, back in the day, Oklahoma
scared me. You know, when you talk, you talk to
see a quarterback on the sideline watching the CBS game.
Quarterback for a sideline for Oklahoma Sooners.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
He's wearing a full length for a code. You know
he didn't buy them on a scholarship check.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Now, so come on, let's not be stupid, you know
what I mean, But that you fast forward to where
it is right now, it is modern day free agency
to me. When you look at college sports, everyone is
looking for the greatest thing, the next greatest thing, and
they're not afraid to jump in the transfer portal to
chase it down.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, your SONSI is a highly toouted twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I listening.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is it like he's two hundred and seventy five pounds
right now?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Wow, he's six six sixty seven.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, he's six six wow, looking at me in the eyes.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Now, I'm six seven, So he just will.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, I think do build a big What can I say?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I build him big?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Hey, Hey, so what's it like now?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Because I got to imagine that, you know, playing there,
especially in Arizona. Not only is he is he a
legacy guy here, but I mean, you've got to be
hearing from Dan Lanning, You've got to be hearing from
Lincoln Riley. I hope if you're not, I'm going to
get in phone with Dan Radikovich today. Make sure Mario
Crystal Ball is reaching out to the Kennedy family.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Look.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Look, look, he's got another year senior year, and the
recruiting process has already started for him, and he's got
a couple of offers.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
But you know, that'll handle itself. I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I just trying to keep my.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Little man aground it. And I say, a little man.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Heared to me.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
He's still a little prepared to me, and I let
him be known every time.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I don't care how big you are, I'm still daddy.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
I can weep that ass anyways. But that's that's just me.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But on a serious note, you know, the thing I'm
most proud of it with Ty is that he's a
four point student and he's a straight edge student that
can write his own ticket anywhere he wants to go.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
And I'm I'm with him.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I'm allowing him to enjoy the process because every kid
would like the attention.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Come on, let's be realistic.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So I'm not ignoring that or escaping that. But everybody's
been talking to him.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
People have already come up to me and God got
in my ear and I'm telling him quickly, you're not
recruiting me.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
You were coming young. So whatever you.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Want to say, I know I've been through the process.
I told Ty this when when we were talking about
I've been through everything that you're going through and then some.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
But it's not up to me.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
This is a place where he's going to walk on
the campus, hopefully take a visit on a place, and
he's going to say, you know what, I can see
myself here, just like.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I did when I came to Seattle many many, many
moons ago.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
So how does he feel about you, Dubb?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He likes you, Dubb.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He's always liked Washington, He's always.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Liked Seattle to the times we went up there.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So I mean, I think that they're going to be
seriously any consideration. But as the same point, I've told him,
you've got to be patient because there are so many
things that are changing. There's nowhere a world that's just definite,
and you know, look at the possibility.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Let's say, Jeffson, I'm not saying this is happening.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
So don't want anybody call me up said, what have
you heard? But well, let's just suppose that Jeff Fish
takes a job somewhere else. Sure, then a new coach
comes in. Maybe he doesn't like Ty, maybe Ty's doesn't.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Fit his system.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
To recruit, I don't want people to recruit my son
because of what I achieved or who I am. I
want them to recruit recruit my son off of what
his merits and what he demands. I mean, what he do,
what he can control, and more importantly, I want him
to go to a program program that will most utilize
him in the best way, in the best possible manner.
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He still got a lot of growing to do with football.
I know that, and I see that, but I'm hoping
that a serious enough coach and a serious enough program
will take him serious enough to when he goes there
he feels comfortable in spite of all the possibilities and
changes with nil transferport all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know what I mean, no question speaking to Lincoln Kennedy,
the proud father of Ty Kennedy six six, two hundred
and seventy five pounds on a Mountain View High School
in Mace, Arizona, and I gotta tell you, you know,
I mean, I don't need to. You know, everybody in
Purple and Gold would like to see you know, Tie
playing his college ball Saturdays on Mottlake.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I mean you know that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, but like you said, but you, like you said,
he want you want your son to choose his own path.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Peyton Manning go back to that, you know thirty something
years ago when Heyte Manning's coming on New Orleans him
and his family, he got like death threats when he
chose Tennessee overall miss Yeah, because he didn't do what
he dad did, right, So you know that's right? Yeah,
But it worked out for him, I think, don't you
why without adults?
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Look, here's the thing I had this.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I had this conversation with my eldest Zach, when he
was just talking by where to go, and he had
asked my insight, and I said, you know, what here is, Zach.
I can't tell you where to go. I mean I can't.
I won't tell you because this is your life. You
have to make that decision. I made what was best
for me, and it turned out to be rewarding going
to Washington and of course my career afterwards. But everyone's different.
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Zach chose his path through USC. He graduated three and
a half years, he's been going on to be a success. Well,
how can I possibly have a problem with that? You know,
whether my son choose a Stanford, Washington, Cow or any
of the other great schools. How could I ever have
a problem with someone paying for a higher education, because
that's all I want for my son. So yes, I
would love to see him in a Husky uniform. But
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at the same point, it's not it's not at the
point where I'm pushing that.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And like, hey, think about the hushy, considerative Hussys.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Because he's going to come to me and say, Dad,
I like this place and I like that place, which
I would respect and appreciate more rather than me trying
to tell him where to go.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Oh, it's truer words never spoken. That's and it's awesome
to have you to guide him. Now, I gotta ask
you this. I got to ask Dad a question.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Here.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
There's a guy out of Missouri who just won the
USA Today and Gatorade National High School Player of the Year.
He's the number one O lineman in America named Jackson
Cantwell out of Missouri. He he's going to the Universe
of Miami. He's getting two million dollars stepping for on campus.
Now I want to go back to the I want
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to pretend let's go ahead and put Lincoln Kennedy in
the NIL era. If Jackson can't, Will is getting two million.
Lincoln Kennedy he might be getting four million coming out
of high school I'm getting.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I'm getting my name and face likeness on an elect.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
An airline spot or something out of something out of
the specific Northwest.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I'm gonna have.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm going to have a I want to have a
boweing a wing out of bow and ring in my honor.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You know, I mean Bill, Bill Gates. I want to
Bill Gates is doing tours. I want you to come
over here to Microsoft. This is the Lincoln Kennedy wing
over here at Microsoft.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Ablutely.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
I love it, and just make sure you put my
likeness in a video game that's truly depicts my my
abilities and my in my and what I look like.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
So I mean I would go for it.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I think I've had often jested with a lot of
the guys back in the day from from our time
in Washington, and we talked about being in an IL
and I.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Just said, man, I would have been a god.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And I you know, hey, you know what's funny.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But you know it's funny like when I talk about
players who might have missed the n I l I
think you know, Zion Williamson, Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Tim Tebow, Tim Tebow, Uh, Matt Lioner.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And then I then I for then I was like, oh, man,
Reggie Bush and go wait, Reggie got that an alogist
wasn't legal.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Reggie got his money.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
He got his money.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
He got him than IL before it happened.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
No doubt, no doubt that great.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Look, here here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
What's the surprise of the MJ And all my my
travels with enjoining college for football work. I see I
pull up on campuses, and I see freshmen get out
of Bentley Truck's, you know, and and and it's the
way of the world. It's it's it's how, it's how,
it's how it is. You know, sometimes you can make
the argument that guys are taking a pay cut if
they go into the professional ranks from college because because
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you have to start off a little bit smaller, these
guys don't want to leave college and with the new rules,
paid the way they are when juco credits on count
against your overall state. We've got guys that was stay
in college for seven eight years.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yep, yep, and I don't find them.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's crazy, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Got to ask you in terms of right now, in
terms of odds to be the next Michigan coach, Jed
Fish is fourth and he spent some time at Michigan.
Would it be a big mistake for him to leave
Washington because he hasn't had that signature win here yet.
But at the same time, Lincoln, if you were Jetfish's agent,
this is Michigan. Now you're talking about a blue blood,
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would you understand him being interested in that job if
they called.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Let me tell you something, man, MJ when Alabama that
have freed up their head coach, and of course you
know that was a big opening. I had no doubt
in my mind that Kaylen deer Bor was gonna be
the top of the list. He had only lost two
games at the time. Was Washington and Alabama's a big program,
you know, so.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
You got it.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
You want to satisfy that big sort of flash. As
far as the coaching hire, that makes sense for jet
Fish going forward. I can't look. I love Washington. I
think Washington is equal to a program like Michigan and
Ohio State or one of those.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Alabama, I think it's equal.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It doesn't have the presence, I understand, doesn't.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Have the sports the presidents that a lot of those
teams did recently.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I get that, But to me.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Washington was always a premier at school when it came
to football. They were just needed some help to get
crossover the plane. And that's what Don James sold me
and my recruiting trip. We're awfully close to beating those
scs and those teams that you see always in the
Rose Bowl, and that was their go back then. It
wasn't winning a national championship. With that being said, I
didn't want to go to sc and ride on other
people's cotails and success. I wanted to create a path
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of my own. We're better to do that with a
place that's close to take in the next step. I
say that to say this, Michigan is a big program.
I would never fault any coach selfishly speaking, of course,
I would love Jeff Fish to stay and build a
program in the Washington because I think he's been good
for us. But I wouldn't fault any coach for stepping up.
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There are jobs that you just can't turn away from.
And like when it comes to basketball, you don't turn
down Duke or Kentucky or Kansas if you're a basketball coach,
when it comes to football places you don't turn down.
And I think that's I think Michigan is up there
one of them. So I couldn't fall to me either way.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Final thought, Lincoln Kennedy, I can't tell you how much
I love talking to you. I wish I could talk
to you every week, But I know you're busy, got time,
you got your dad, you got a lot of things
going on. But I gotta I gotta ask you this
you mentioned. I'm glad you mentioned him because Hugh Millan,
who you know very well. You guys are part of
Washington Husky Royalty. He often so tells me that Don
James was more of a father to him. He said
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this on the air, than his own dad. Any how
great of a person, can you tell me? And you
can give me a sentence, an essay as long as
what did Don James mean to Lincoln Kennedy?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Don James taught me what it meant to have integrity,
to be a man of your word.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
My situation, my history is.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Is that when I was being recruited, I was I
wanted to be recruited as a defensive lineman because when
I started playing footba at a young age, my idol
was at T tall Jones number seventy two for the Cowboys.
Why worse than me to in the league, And so
I wanted to be that defensive lineman. And yes I
played both ways in high school, but defensive guys got
all the glory, They got the names.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
In the paper for making a sack and all of
that stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I wanted to be that guy.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I went to Washington and I asked all the schools
that I narrowed my final choices down to. I said,
recruit me as a defensive lineman, and you have a deal.
And of course there were a lot of people who
obviously want to recruit me as an offensive lineman and
stuff like that, but Washington was one that agreed to
recruit me as a defensive line. Long story short. In
my red shirt freshman year, I don't think. I think
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we went six and five. We missed out on the Bowl,
which broke the snap of bolt games that Washington had.
Prior to that. Don James said he was making changes.
He was going to go over to Keith Gilverson for offense.
Lambrady was going to change the defense. He came to
me and he said, look, we recruit he as a
defensive lineman.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
You could stay on the defensive line, but you're probably
not going to play that much.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
And that's just a choice that you have to make
if you go over to the offensive side. Our offensive
coach really likes he thinks that she can be useful
over there. Make the switch offense. I had a conversation
with some people that are close in my circle. Made
the switch to offense. The rest is history. The integrity
part comes is that Don James would not move me,
and he gave me the option of saying where I
wanted to go, and that really enthralled and really and
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connected me to him personally, because I thought that was huge.
He didn't have to do that. Everyone I told me,
he said, they can move you where they want. They
got you, they owned you, they can do where they want.
But he came to me and he gave me the option,
the choice, and I will never forget that. It's one
of the things, one of the reasons why I have
so much respect for his legacy.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Very well, said Lincoln Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We really appreciate you taking the time, and we'll be
rooting for Tie obviously. We know that he got he
got an offer recently, right, I got offered from Dubs,
So we'll be we'll be keeping our eyes on him.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And uh, I mean do that last thing.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Do you have other high schools trying to recruit him now,
like a Bishop Gorman and all that.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Oh, they all they all wanted to recruit him here. Yeah,
all the big powerhouse pisterers that are doing that.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Really funny with my son, and he had to get
a kick. I told him when when what was it was?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
There was one school that came to him and I said, look,
if you want to go to the school, I'll certainly
support it, but you know, you have to live with
a foster family.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
And he's like, wait a minute, I'm not giving up
my room. I'm not giving up my space. I want
to live with a foster family. I want to live with.
I said, well, I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Not going to take you to a school thirty forty
five minutes away from my house every day, So you
wanna have to move with somebody live down there. I mean,
that's what the big programs are doing with it, with
these kids and these sports.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
And he's like, no, I'll be cool here. So he
said his own high school. He likes it there.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Anyways.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All right, well, we'll be rooting for him and look
forward to talking soon. In Husky's Boise State buck Up
LA Bowl on Saturday, five o'clock would be the only
football game going on the entire world.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So we'll be.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Watching, definitely, I'll be watching, looking forward to us. He
bring up a win.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
All right, thank you so much, Lincoln. We really appreciate it.
I have a good one in right, all right, it's
a great Lincoln Kennedy. Man, he's the best. All right,
we will come back. What do you say? Text of
the day, so much things there to Parson and what
he said about Don James I obviously never got a
chance to meet the late great Don James. But everything
I've heard from Hugh Millen and Lincoln Kennedy and anybody
(26:06):
who's described them, whether you hear from Mario Bailey on
the Husky Hawks and Greg Lewis, those guys, wow, just
he was one of the greats.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
There's no doubt about it. What do you say?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Text to Day brought to you by Boris Head coming
up next. All right, thanks again too, Lincoln Kennedy, Charles
Davis out, we got a winner. I want to thank
KJR Radio. I just picked up my sixty five in
screen TV. Thank you again. You're the best. Jerry and Allen,
so see you do. There are winners.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You do win. We're not just doing this. It's yeah,
and congratulations to you.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Seahawks are gonna blow out the Rams next Thursday.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Lock Wow, all right kid, all right, let's see here
a great interview. MJ. Charles David is my favorite analyst.
Dude is all class, so insightful and seems like such
a gentleman. Oh, he is such a gentleman. There's no doubt.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
This is one time, one game that Philip Rivers should
and I quote pull.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Out that was gold. That's just kind of a wait
for the d I'm like, oh, that was a good one.
That was that is good wow wow, Oh my lord.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That is too too funny, too too funny. Hey listen,
I mean, I'm just like, I'm gonna go buy NC
double a dot com now and I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
To get into it with Husky Fans dot com.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
And for those of you that want to tell me
that Washington's won to know, they haven't. No, they haven't.
And by the way, you know who will back me
up on this. Hugh Millen will back me up on this.
Nineteen sixty Minnesota and Ole miss split the national title
on the AP NFF whatever the hell that is, oh,
(28:24):
National Football Foundation UPI and Football Writers Association of America.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So I know you claim it. I've talked to you
about this.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You got one national title, So don't sit here and
tell me I'm factually incorrect. I'm going by NC double
a dot com slash history slash football slash FBS.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I don't see Washington's name. That's it.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
You got one. You split it with Miami, and that's it. Okay, Like,
don't don't get into it. You got to understand when
it comes to college football. I have two SEC degrees
and an ACC degree. I know about college football like
it's my number that in the NFL are like I
live my life for college football in the NFL. So again,
(29:08):
you're gonna need a bigger boat if you're gonna win
an argument against me, A lot bigger boat. I mean,
you better make sure that mother is like Carnival cruise
line boat.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Philip Rivers got a chance? What about Cam Newton?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Because a lot of people can misc and screw and
only thing you can do is ask, but what's your
career and all the things that you're doing in media?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Do you come off like you're available? What state the Kings?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Then?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Bro, Philip Rivers, why are you asking me to do
something that everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Else didn't do? There's your answer? Is that a yes
or no? I don't I'm trying to you know, Is
that a yes or no? I mean, like, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Did Philip Rivers indicate that he was ready to come
back to the field, And no, he did not.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
He just was coaching, that's true. And they called him
and they called him, but he's familiar.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Listen, he's familiar and he played and you know, by
the way, if there's one person that could come back
in the NFL after being off for a while, be
Cam Newton.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well that was his point. Well that's what I was
working out. He's done.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Yeah, he's he's he's actually doing something.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
My man was coaching.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
And that's so when someone sent them a text message
of Cam never announces a time mass, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Right exactly now, I got it. Uh do.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Let's see UW does U DUB has one and it's
shared And as a UDUB fan, I think it's a
joke that we claim one that's from somebody in the
three six so area code.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Last one for me.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
I hope Philip Rivers doesn't run down the field wine
and cry like you did in the past plays.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But other than that, I'm okay with it. Do you
remember what he's talking about.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
I think it was, Oh yeah, he was running the
field barking at somebody that threw like a forty hour
pass because he's a trash talk right here.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh yeah, yeah he was. He was, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
What do you say, what's the difference between a hotel
and a motel? I love Best Western and Red Line
in but because of the parking lot. Someone said that
it makes it a motel hotel over motel. Now the
Red Lion, And I've done my research on this because
when I first got to Seattle and I was here
for the ninety five Final Four, we stayed at the
Red Lion. But back then the Red Lion is what
(31:24):
now at seed Tech Airport is now the Double Tree.
That's what the Red Lion used to be. So don't
look at the Red Lion now. I stayed when the
Red Lion was the current Double Tree, the current Double Tree. Okay,
so just saying, just saying, we're still doing Fantasy today, guys.
Tomorrow we will have Ian Ritchie by the Way short
(31:46):
show tomorrow because they're doing an hour from Radio Row,
so we'll be on from ten to noon tomorrow. Ian
Richie or Sean Cruisin will be on with me tomorrow
at eleven. Let's see, Wow, you don't have to try
in big time on the air. When I get no
chance to respond, I admit I made a mistake, but
to be fair, I'm trying to look bleep up with
(32:08):
one hand while I build a custom shower with the
other one.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And you have a full PC in front of you.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
No, no, no, no, no, dude, dude, listen, I didn't need to
look it up to know that Washington wasn't in two
national championships in the last decade. You said that. I
knew it wasn't true. I know they went to two
playoffs in the last decade. You said they went to
two national titles in the last decade. Didn't need to
look that one up. By the way, if you ever
want to not that I drink. But if you ever
(32:34):
want to pull me over and you want to give
me a duy test, okay, just ask me college football stuff,
national championships, Heisman Trophy, winners, whatever, to any like.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I will get them all. I will get them all.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And by the way, just so you know, Nelson, you
can't claim nineteen sixty. You can't claim it because I'm
looking at NCAA dot Com and it says Minnesota in
Mississippi doesn't really look like Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
There just saying, and if you don't.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Believe, if you're gonna claim that one, I'm gonna go
with a guy who actually played at the program, who
was a starting quarterback and was a captain, who doesn't
even claim that one. And he's on this station almost
every day and he doesn't even claim that one. So
again you got one. Be thankful that back then they
didn't have a playoff system, because I got news for you,
(33:27):
Gino Toretta the Heisman Trophy wear the following year, Lamar Thomas,
Stephen McGuire, James Littleman, Stuart Oh, did you ever hear
of Warren sapp the Rock? I mean we could go
on the Bermuda triangle of Michael Barrow, Jesse Armstead and
Darren Smith. Come on, I mean we'll never know. We
(33:49):
can debate it all day long, but we'll never know.
I'll take the ape. You guys got the UPI and
we can just like Michigan split it with Nebraska in
ninety seven. That's what do you say? Text of the
day to you by Bor said? Bors said, committed to
crap since nineteen o five. All right, thanks again to
Charles Davis and Lincoln Kennedy for joining us today. Tomorrow
(34:13):
ten the Noon's Show, and then Jets and Greg Bell
will be on live from Radio Row in I believe
Philadelphia for Army Navy on Radio Row. So we'll talk
to them tomorrow. Got you know when the mayor speaks
it's such words of wisdom, Ian Furness, and he told
me this, and it's like I have now. You know, Ian,
I mentioned at the beginning of the show, and you.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Told me this.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
It's almost long. It's funny. Everything you said comes true.
You're like a freaking prophet, you really are. And yeah,
tell the wife that. And I said, Ian, I said, well,
you know what. First of all, I said, Hey, here's
the thing. If Michigan comes calling for Jetfish, I don't
blame him.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I don't blame him. It's just a bigger and a
better job.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And I go twelve national champions to one, and then
they start claiming the nineteen sixty and I'm like, and
then I go to ncdouble a dot com, like, let
me just say something to all of you, because not
all Husky fans, but let me just say something. You
didn't win the national title in nineteen sixty. It was
split between Minnesota and Ole miss You didn't win it.
(35:19):
You like, do your fact, Like, go to ncdouble a
dot com. You got credit for one. It was in
ninety one that you split with Miami. And that is it. Okay,
that is it. In another thing, let me say this too,
he and I talked about it. You're not a blue blood.
Blue blood programs are USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame.
(35:41):
And there's a couple, let me tell you this, Miami,
Florida and Florida State, and they have eleven national titles combined.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
None of them are blue bloods, none of them. They're
not a blue bloods.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Blue Bloods goes back decades and decades and winning national titles,
and those are blue blood ce to me when I
think of blue blood us C is what comes to mind.
Heisman Trophy winners, national titles. They're as blue blood as
it gets. And now I'm gonna say that's all I'm
gonna say. And and that's it. But to claim you
want to go ahead and claim nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
N C double A's not claiming it.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
So I'm gonna go I think they're a little bit
more factually correct than you are me.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
You guess you must have Lincoln Kennedy on today.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
No, No, I did, But we didn't talk about that.
Oh okay, we didn't talk. No, I'm just these are
just people on the time. Oh we go to you, No, you.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Didn't like I just I did a thing with Mike
Parker's voice the Oregon State Beavers. I did something on
his show a little while ago, and you know the
thing that with you know, he was talking about, you know,
do you bring somebody in and he was talking about
our job, and I'll relate it to Washington, you know,
bring somebody in and what if they leave? And I'm like, whatever, man,
people leave. It's just the state of the state of
college football. There's very few jobs that you don't leave
(36:57):
unless they ask you to leave. There's very, very, very
very few jobs like that. And when they say you
don't leave one of those things, you don't leave unless
it's going to the NFL. Jim Harbaugh left Michigan to
go to the National Football League, which is I think
we would all agree any NFL job right now as
a head coach is better than any college job as
(37:17):
a head coach if for no other reason, you coach football.
You make personnel evaluations, you do game planning, you do
all things football. You don't have to shake hands with
boosters and kiss someone's backside so you can get some
nil money. You don't have to worry about an eighteen
year old kid coming in your office saying, hey, I
think I should get paid more as the third string
(37:39):
quarterback or I'll transfer. You don't have to deal with
any of that stuff as an NFL coach. I bring
that up because I know our buddy Cam Cleveland said
that Mike McDonald should be somebody that should be looking
at the Michigan job.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And I just I about fell out of the cherry yesterday.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I said, no you no me, step down, step away way.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Lax fell out, like now, maybe you just hold my
maybe eight the Seahawks. You want Mike McDonald go. Right
If I was a Rams fan, I'd say, man, Mike
McDonald should go to the the Michigan right now. Mike
McDonald is gonna make more money in the NFL and
have less headache yep than going back to a school
where he was at briefly as an assistant. Like just
no your head, no shake, no thing, No NFL job,
(38:22):
there's no NFL job like you could, you could. What's
the worst NFL job right now?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I would say maybe Cleveland or the Raiders is not
really great right now.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I'll say the Saints is bad.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Kellen Moore, Yeah, but you know what, you're better off
there dealing with all the stuff I just talked to him.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
And then you get to college and you get to
deal with other stuff where you go.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
So yeah, so for for for me, you just got
to look at you have to look at just this.
I mean, Mike McDonald succeeded Pete Carroll, who won a
Super Bowl. Mike McDonald shouldn't be succeeding Sharon Moore. I
love your laugh and I'm glad.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I'd just it's just going in and saying, boy, let's see,
I've got Sam Darnold under contract. We drafted Jalen Miller
like Drew Locke. But you know what, I'd rather go
into ann Arbor, Michigan and grovel the Bryce Underwood.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Just stay another year.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
And by the way, Ian, I want to say one
thing and thank you. I would be remiss obviously the
numero uno blue blood Alabama, that's just blue blood as
it gets.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
I think I think Ohio State goes in that category.
I'll just I'll bring up a name Archie Griffin for example.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh two time Heisman Trophy winner, Yeah, only one. So yeah,
that's the right. What do you got coming up today?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Now?
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Well, we're gonna talk a little bit about the Searon
Moore thing, bigger picture stuff. It's just wow, kind of
nauseates me a little bit on a lot of different levels.
But we'll get to that coming up. The enabling of
people these days is crazy. Our guy Corbin Smith joins
Just one twenty talks Seahawks and their game this weekend
against came to say this with straight faced up rivers.
(39:52):
And then, of course it's the first week for most
people in fantasy football playoffs. The unofficial start of the
weekend at two o'clock, random fundsen over your teen next
four nine, four five one starting at one o'clock phone
calls it too, and then also and then added bonus
today at two thirty The dumbest thing you'll hear today.
We bring this in every now and then, we have it,
(40:13):
and it's been a couple maybe about a month since
we had it, but Anders and I found something today.
It's the dumbest thing you'll hear today. We all need
that on with everything going on in the world. So yeah,
we'll get to that too.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'm gonna nominate something I saw on the text line
them saying Washington's a blue blood.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's the dumbest thing I heard today.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Well it's not that it's something else, but it has
to do with the West Coast School and to coach,
so we'll get to that all right.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Fair enough. Hey, I have a different definition of blue blood.
Stay tuned for the mayor
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