April 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Hugh Millen is in studio alongside Marc James to talk all things 2025 NFL Draft. Does Hugh trust John Schneider in this draft, should the Seahawks go after Colston Loveland, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You and Adrian Peterson might have the strongest vice grip
handshakes of anyone I've ever met. My Adrian Peterson's literally
putting your hand in the ice. Oh okay, oh, and
you are not far off. It was like, whoa, that
is a handshake. But I'm good, I'm good, I'm you know,
I need to get get that blood flowing. Can't wait
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the twenty sixth annual Maler Millin Draft today.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I guess twenty seven, but yours count after a while, Yeah, whatever,
exactly after you get past twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You're good.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So at Queen and Beer Hall today, I'm gonna be
out there at three o'clock. Yeah, tell everybody. We want
everybody to come out out and join us, right, Yeah,
we'd love to have people come and look. Obviously there's
a local component here. With the Seahawks, we're gonna be
you know, grinding on the NFC West.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right. You got uh get You've got San.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Francisco eleven, the Cardinals at sixteen, you got the Rams
at twenty six.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
So, and I know there's a lot of national mocks
what we're doing. We're bringing our you know, our listeners
are in and there's an opportunity to win some prizes,
and and uh, you know, we talk about the team needs,
we talk about the players. And you know what's interesting
is is I've I've found in watching because you know,
I watched the national guys, and I think there's a
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and it's a good thing. It's it's it's a good
statement about humanity. I think I think most analysts and
I'm talking about twenty, they tend to want to say
good things about guys are going in the first round
because there's a presumption that they're good players.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's why they're going to go in the first round.
So we constantly, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Where you hear a lot more flowers about guys because
they're thought to be good. But the numbers you just
put in the spreadsheet, it doesn't matter the position. I mean,
quarterbacks are obvious. We'll talk about that in an hour, sir,
But it doesn't matter. I've I've filtered all the positions tackles.
You tell me a position, all pull up, how how
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many first round draft picks there have been at that position?
And I'll show you a less than fifty percent hit rate.
So it comes back to anybody, and I'm just doing
it on a local level, but anybody doing local or
national got to you gotta try and find signs. They're like,
wait a minute, this is a little bit of a tailtale.
This is a little whoe pump the brakes. And I
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think for the most part, when you hear analysts talk
in drafts and what most people want to be good guys.
So you don't want to sit there and be on
the guy on record saying well, I don't think this
guy's very good.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But you know, I appreciate that though. I love when
guys do that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I remember Mel Kuiper back in nineteen ninety five with
not Bill Pollian Tobin, Yes Tobin from the Famous One,
Famous One, and he and he said that they made
a mistake by passing on Trent Dilford for Trent Alberts
out of Nebraska. And he goes, what does Mel Kuiper know,
He goes, and Kuiper just went off heels this is
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why the.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Colts are picking in the top ten every single year.
And I loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But that was thirty something years ago, thirty one years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, so but how many times has Kiper done that? Now?
If you lost?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Because I went back and I literally googled mel kiper
Zach Wilson and some of these other guys and there
because I wanted to hear, and because it got to
what you want to know? I'm like, honestly, for me,
it's like I want to be a good guy too.
I want to be in the good guy club, right,
I don't want to be in the a whole club.
But but then I've got a spreadsheet of these numbers
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and I'm like, wait a minute, does that make me
an a hole?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, I look at I go wait a minute.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Will Campbell is supposed to be the fourth pick in
the tackle and I've looked at, you know, tackles from
for twenty seven years.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm like, this guy doesn't look like a top ten
pick to me.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Wow, that's interesting, Like he's getting do I started three
years at LSU and the numbers are great, but he
he is really susceptible to a bull rush back in
the lap of the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Hugh. It doesn't make you an a hole. It makes
you real. And I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
A lot of the listeners and I, you know, just
judging on the instant feedback we get that I see
in real time is the text line and people. So
I call the Mariners lineup. I said, an hour ago,
you have four guys batting under two hundred that are
in the everyday batting lineup. I call it four men
out because that's what they are. If you're batting blow
two hundred and you're in a daily lineup, you are
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four men out. You have five chances more than likely
that you're gonna get a hit. It doesn't, and people
like thank you for the refreshing takes and calling it
and not being a ball washer and calling out Julio
for being this overrated guy that everyone wants to put
in the same breath as Mookie Betts and Juan Soto.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I want to ask you this before we get into
the just into everything in depth. I put a poll
up there. It's on the KGr Twitter handle. Do you
trust John Schneider to get this draft right?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
No? And why do I trust him? Based on the
other fifteen year sample size? I said, yes, I do
trust him on this one. And specifically, Hugh, all right,
you're not gonna hit sixty five percent on your draft picks.
You're not gonna that's never gonna happen. I mean it's
gonna rare. You know, they've got five picks in the
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first three rounds. Can he get those first five picks
as of now eighteen fifty, fifty two, eighty two, and
ninety two.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Can he hit on three out of those fos? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, First of all, I think John Schneider has an
interesting tenure as a Seahawk GM. He's been there fifteen years.
The first seven years, the Seahawks won nine playoff games.
The last eight years they've won one. The first three
drafts that he had twenty ten, eleven, and twelve eight
Pro Bowl players that the draft had seven rounds starting
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in nineteen ninety four since nineteen ninety four. I ran
a spreadsheet of every single team that have drafted in
You could write a easy formula where you say, okay,
how many Pro Bowls in the last three years. It
turns out there's only four teams that have done what
the Seahawks did in that regard. You had the Chargers
in the mid two thousands, that's right, LT and Sean Merriman.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Right. Sure, again, these are eight or more Pro Bowls
in a three year draft. By the way, Alan.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Later, but he's been around a minute yeah, so ye
had you had the forty nine ers in a.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Little bit late late two thousand.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Uh uh, you know, prior to twenty ten, and then
you have the Packers around twenty twelve and in twenty twelve.
So the Seahawks are one of four teams in that
three year period with John Schneider to have And these
weren't just like one off Pro Bowlers. These these are
Bobby Wagner's. These are you know, six eight Pro Bowls.
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So Wilson, you know, Richard Sherman five, you know, Cam
Chance or four like like major Earl Thomas, major dudes.
And uh and by the way that you should know this,
the LOB is the only defense in the history of
the NFL to have four straight years fewest points allowed.
Not the Purple Peep Leaders, not the Doomsday defense, not
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the Steel Curtains defense, the seventies Falcons remember that defense in.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
The seven Yeah no, no, they didn't know. Okay, I'm
just asking.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I didn't know, but because because that's an underrated, overlooked defense,
because they didn't want anything.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, and the Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Philadelphia with Buddy Ryan, the
Saints with Jim Moore. There's some there's there are some
great teams, great defenses rather that didn't win championships. But
I'll say it again, that lob only team ever. And
had they they won the Super Bowl against the Broncos
forty three to eight, had it been forty three to zero,
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because the eight points where garbage points. Had it been
forty three to zero against a record setting this is
not like, no, this is Baltimore playing Carry Collins in
the Super Bowl or two thousand, you know, the had
Derek Decker Welker, Uh, they were loaded.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That was that was a ESPN Sports center. That was
a Madden cheat code, offense cheat cod. That Broncos offense
was unbelievable, record setting across the world. And and and
Seattle just absolutely so nomide them. And so it had
it been forty three to nothing, I think that would
have increased the candidacy for some of the Hall of
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Fame uh candidates down the road with it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But getting back to Okay, so you're just so schnyder, Yeah,
do you trust?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
But here's here's where my first thought to me, the
Seahawks roster, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Really hot chick. And then you know the buck teeth
like chick.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You know, you know chicks from like like British chicks.
You know, like did you did you watch with White Lotus?
You know, yes, yeah, dating rip right, Yeah, Like that's
the Seahawks and and what are the buck teeth the
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Here's here's a stat for you. But you know there's
a visile line. We can fix that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, then let's get some a visi line starting tomorrow.
By the way, I had metal mouth three times. Okay,
you got it right, But the are like, oh she's hot,
Oh what keep your mouth closed? Right, and because that's
a deal breaker, right, like that as a deal breaker. So,
by the way, I don't have a problem with the
gap the buck is that's a different story. Yeah, yeah,
the gap, the gap. I don't have an issue in hand. No,
I'm okay with it. Then, Michael strahand it's all right.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Just the most Christopher bottom of about sing I'm looking
for as a straight handy.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
She flashes with a shoelace. Oh no no. But so
you have the Seahawks in fifteen years, so they have
this uh Fitzgerald Spielberger chart that has replaced the Jimmy
Johnson chart. Okay, okay, so this is what I'm about
to present to you is a fact based argument that
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the facts are not to be disputed. The only thing
that can be disputed is irrelevance or if there's some
other factors that superseded. Okay, fact, the Seattle Seahawks, over
the last fifteen years with Snyder as a GM have
spent more draft capital, as measured by the Fitzgerald Spielberger chart.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Than any team in the NFL. That is fact.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Okay, last fifteen years. You said, fifteen seasons, all fifteen years. Okay,
And now simultaneously, if you take Pro Football Focus, who's
Pro Football Focus? Excuse me? It's owned by Chris Collinsworth.
Every single team in the NFL subscribes to it. They
do a great job.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They do.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They get more right than wrong. Now I know, I
know examples where they get it wrong, but I think
they're you know, they're pretty good benchmark. They get more
right than wrong. We can agree on that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
They rank offensive line groups at the end of every year.
If you take all fifteen years since even the twenty
thirteen when they won the Super Bowl, the Seahawks rank
is twenty five point one. So if you were ranked,
you know, average ranking is second or third, Like that'd
be great. The Seahawks average ranking over fifteen years is twenty.
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Essentially the twenty fifth best offensive line over a fifteen
year period. That thirty two teams that is ranked dead last,
that average of twenty beingked even the worst.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Houston because Houston gave up fifty two sacks last year
with c. J.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, and well the second the second the worst over
the last four years is the Giants. The Seahawks are
second worst over the last four years. But over fifteen years,
the Seahawks have the worst and they've only been in
the top half one time. One time they were ranked fourteenth,
and so that is the fewest of any team in
the NFL, the fewest occasions in the top half. And
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by the way, the Eagles are number one over that
fifteen year period. So surprised. So what's the summary? You
could say based on those metrics that the Seahawks over
fifteen years have A tried the hardest on their offensive
line and B performed the worst.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And that's the John Schneider issue.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now I'm not saying that's the only way to evaluate,
but it's a way, and it's a credible way.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
To describe the job is to evaluate the talent and
bring it in here. And you know how many offensive
line coaches are they on now in the last five years. Yeah,
I mean it's worse than the Krack And it's on
their third hockey coach in the last four years. I mean,
it's it's you know, it's like you it's a revolving door.
It's like we gotta you know, and it's like, Okay,
I hope John Benton's the right guy. I hope Clint
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Kubiak is gonna Do you think the scheme Can the
scheme help out the olignements?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Okay, yeah, yeah, because because if you get to the apps,
if you become a proficient outside Z owned team, then
you can play under center more and and there's all
kinds of stats where we have Sam Darnold a under
the center more more proficient yards per attempt, I mean,
significantly higher than than uh Geno. So on those on
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those neutral downs you're gonna get if you fake the
outside run, the offensive line is moving laterally, the aiming
point for the running back is out either at the
tight end or the ghost of the tight end if
it's an open formation, and then the defensive line, they
have to go laterally and then when they decipher it's
play action, then they can get up the field. So
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you can on on neutral downs. What's a neutral down?
First and ten or second and six or less? Okay,
so you've got assuming you've gotten just you you're staying
even with the the the chains by being getting four
yards or more on first down. Okay, So those neutral downs, yes,
that that can that can help. And and uh, now
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you still on third down on obvious passing situations, you know,
third and two or longer, you're you're still gonna have
to pass block. But the you know, the the methodology,
whatever they've been doing hasn't hasn't worked. They've they've drafted
offensive tackles from college and they moved them inside.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That hasn't been great.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
They've drafted, you know, the highest they've drafted a true
guard is third round.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Going back to the question, do you trust John Scheinder
to get this draft right?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
No? Or what?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And why?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I I don't want to be the local that says no,
but I'm but it's okay, I'm I'm I'm concerned because
it hasn't gotten right for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And and by the way, that's those are facts. That's
like you said, the one thing that you just brought up.
I love those three words you use, Hugh millan fact
based argument.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I let FB a fact based argument.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It's like the goat Tom Brady seven super Bowls, the
goat Michael Jordan six titles, six and oh never trailed
in a finals, six finals, MVPs. It's like, if you're
even comparing to those guys, then I don't even want
to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now. There was an argument one point.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I used to work with a guy who you probably
played against, Randy Cross, and Randy Cross used to argue
with me about Joe Montana being there and Tom Brady,
and at that point, Joe Montana had more Super Bowls
than Tom Brady, but then tom Brady won four more
and that argument kind of went out the way.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Well, I think anybody who says anybody other than Tom
Brady thank you is the goat needs to that's it.
Put down the brown liquor, Yeah, call an uber. Yeah,
go home and go to bed, that's sleep it off. Yeah,
that's pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah at that point, So I'm veering that you're just
saying that you're not just from what I'm ascertaining here,
you don't have the utmost just based on what he's
done recently, because like you said, ten or twenty twelve
was just lights out recently, you know, I mean you're
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talking about Charles Cross, Abraham Lucas and why are we
still here every year?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hugh?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
All right? For?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Okay, So this is gonna be the twenty seventh for
the twenty eighth Mahler and Millin' draft. No, no, no, twenty
seven no, no, no, no, next year, next year. Sorry for
the twenty eighth days, We're all gonna be here. Yeah, yeah,
no doubt for the Mahler and Millen twenty eighth draft.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Next year. I have a question out there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Are we still gonna be talking about the Seahawks not
getting the on line right? Are we still a year
from now, Christopher kid? Are we gonna be a why
can't they get the O line right? Are we gonna
have that conversation in a year?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Let's be optimist. Now, I'll tell you a quick story.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So when I was at the Broncos, I'm the backup
quarterback to John Elway, and so I'm the scout team.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
By the way, and for those of you under the
age of thirty two years old, please YouTube, please Google.
He's now It's like they don't even mention him anymore
as one of the let me tell you something, one
of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, the greatest athletes
at quarterback of all time.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Well, mel kiper just I think I even uh saved
it on the DVR. He just said parenthetically about a
week ago. He goes, he's not my number one, uh
prospect of all time, that that's that will always be
John Elway. He said that parenthetically a week ago. You
know why because he's from Baltimore and they had the
number one pick ten. I don't think that's the only reason,
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but fair enough. But but so wow, okay, oh, definitely
more the way he was thought of. Okay, yeah, I
mean he could have played for the Yankees. He's gonna
played anywhere. Beautiful athlete, movement, velocity like like like nobody's
ever thrown a ball with the velocity of him ever, right,
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I mean, Josh Allen comes close, Brett Favre came close,
but a young John lay.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
George throwing not accurately, but but if but that guy
could just rev it up and he was just so
strong and he could just snap his hips and just
generate this crazy velocity. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But anyways, so so.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I'm the I'm the backup and i'm which means I'm
the scout team, the look squad, right, so I'm going
against the Broncos number one defense. The center was a
seventh round kid from BC that I just we had
a little BC thing because I had played for the Patriot.
We had this New England thing going on, right, and
you know, a short guy, you know, undersize. I didn't
think anything of this dude. You know, I just thought
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he was a nice guy. But his seventh round pick,
he'd probably be gone next year.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So now Mike Shanahan comes in that year, he was
he was the hot stuff, and he's going to bring
the outside zone. And they're kind of looking at Kubiak.
Gary Kubiak was my quarterback coach, and and there's like, hey,
we kind of like this this scout team center, this
seventh rounder from last year, this rookie seventh rounder, And
you know, I didn't really register a thought. I like
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the guy, I'm not going to denigrate him. But next scene,
his name was Tom nalan Oh.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He was.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
He was a two time first team All Pro I
think five time Pro bowler and the center of an
offensive line that year after year was producing twelve hundred
and fourteen you know, not just Torrell Davis, but you know,
you know, it didn't matter who Orlandos, Gary, didn't matter who,
you know who they put back there. So so could
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that Rick. The offensive line coach was Alex Gibbs at
the time, the father, godfather of the outside zone. On
that staff, the assistant offensive line coach was Rick Dennison.
Rick Dennison is the current Seattle Seahawk running game coordinator.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Just got hired.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So Rick Dennison has this background with what am I
trying to say? There may be somebody he's a lot
like Tom Moore. Oh Tom Moore the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well well no, no, no, no, for the coat.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, the guy who's been around forever, he's got these
that that old kind of yeah. Yeah yeah tomk yeah
was one the best. Oh wow yeah, but so so Millan.
Why are you bringing this up? Yeah, Okay, here's the relevance.
Rick Dennison is the current running game coordinator for the Seahawks.
He was He was brought up under Alex Gibbs. What's
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Alex Gibbs philosophy. Hey, on my interior, guys, I don't
need him tall, I don't even necessarily need him heavy,
but I need him smart and I need him with
pretty quick feet. Christian Haynes was had a little bit
of a deficiency in his power, but smart played the
outside zone scheme at Yukon has better agility, uh, you
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know rankings than he does power rankings. There may be
somebody on that roster, and I'm specifically thinking of Christian Haynes,
the third round draft pick last year. That may be
one of those where the new staff comes in and says,
you know, we kind of like.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
This guy that that was a holdover. I've already experienced that,
and we got a coach that that may.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hugh Millen is in studio. We are up against it.
We're gonna come back with you and I'm gonna take that.
Maybe you're in the category of what's wait and see,
which we're all wait and see on if Schneider can
get this draft right. But we'll we'll talk and we'll
get into the draft. And the Seahawks are at eighteen
two picks in the second round at fifteen and fifty
two and then two in the third round as well.
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Hugh Millan in studio here on MJ in the midday,
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Speaker 3 (21:32):
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Speaker 1 (21:34):
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Christopher Kidd, Hugh Millan myself, purple sheet.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Had to get purple sheet, I said.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
He's like, no, I said, no tomatoes, so I had
to I had to email Patrick said, oh, by the way,
purple sheet, no tomatoes. So you know, gotta make sure
on that one the onions you want on these? Yeah,
I want to give though, no I did. I made
sure I got it right. And he's like, well, I
couldn't tell you. I'm like, listen, man, I don't want
you something happening and you're having convulsions and I'm not
giving you mouth to mouth. So now that's not happening.
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But Bor said's coming in the house these sandwiches. I
tell you what Patrick brought these in last time.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Hugh.
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we might think of somebody other than Pat Mahomes and
we're doing that. But anyway, whatever you like, you know,
it's you know, hey, I'm my guy's cam word, so
I have a bro crush on cam Word. So all right,
let's just say let's start here real quick. Seahawks are
on the clock of the eighteen. I want to give
you one player, Colston Lovelin. I talked to his father
this week and he goes to me out his father's
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a really nice guy.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Chad talk to him in out a Twin Falls, Idaho.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Want to get him on the show this week, So
I'm going to share this with the audience because this
is my job. And he didn't say it was off
the record. The Seahawks have talked to Colston Loveland. They've
talked to him multiple times. According to Chad Loveland, Colston
Lovel's dad, there's sort of inside information. He didn't want
to come on like he would, did not return my
text or whatever. We had a very nice conversation. So
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if you're not gonna come on, you're gonna go to
me like a bad tender match, then I'm gonna go
and ahead and say the Seahawks are interested in Colts.
They have talked to him multiple times. Give us your
breakdown in Colston Lovelin.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Well, you look at him, and I think those with
some computer experience I'll know what I'm talking about. You know,
when you have a vector image on it and you
click it and then there's a you know, there's a
a little dotter line around and there's four corners. If
you take a corner, not the side or the top,
but the corner and then you stretch it, it will
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it will grow proportionally like a thumbnail.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Sort of. Yeah, But well, I.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Don't want to get too techy but but bitmap is issue,
images won't won't grow as proportionally if a vector issue
is there's mathematical so like like if you have a
vector issue of a corvette on it right, a little car,
you say, oh, well, I want a bigger corvette. You
just take the corner and you just grow it, and
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now all of a sudden it grows in proportion. Colston
Lovelin is a wide receiver that you click and then
you take the corner and you grow it to six
foot six and two forty five. Is he a little
like brock Bowers he's taller than rock Round. No, nobody
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don't in terms of like he doesn't have the run
after the catch. He doesn't have the run after the catch.
But he's he's he's significantly bigger than.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Brock Bauers all right, higher ceiling Colston Loveland or Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Oh Man, Well, I would take Warren because he's he's
kind of.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like got gronk written all over. That's it. That's it
right there.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I know now if you if you grade them on
different facets of the game, there's it's undeniable that Colston
Loveland is more receiver, like in terms of his route
running ability, his burst.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Okay, I think Lincoln wide receiver like Lincoln Riley and us.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He might disagree with you because he caught seventeen.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I mean, God, but no, no, but but hang on,
But those two truths can be the same. He can be,
he can more be more receiver, like he's just a
large receiver Leveland whereas ty Warren, if you think of Gronk, Gronk,
he just plays bully ball. So Ty Warren is a guy.
Instead of six foot five and six eights, Tyler Warren
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is six foot five and I believe three eight, so
he's just a hair shorter. But he's much that he's
torn sixty pounds and his strength at the point of
attack is insane. He had on his on his reception.
If you watch every single time he's throwing the ball,
he has more one handed catches than he has drops.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And that's a fact that's not just being hype bart.
He has more shut the front door.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
This dude serious like insane hands and by the way,
more cat drops. He he was when when I first
saw him. Now I watched the USC game live like
everybody like seventeen cats, Like you gotta be kidding let
me line up a center.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Let me cause I know you get going. So I
want to just you, you made the comparison. And and
by the way, apt One at that, Tyler Warren at Gronk,
we can all And and by the way, we don't
need to be as smart and in depth as hu
Milling to see that.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Who does Colston Lovelin remind you of a current or
past tight end more with? I think, yes, oh, really good.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
That's a very good comp Yes, very good comp You
just you, you know, I want to say Travis Kelcey
at at some point. But I went back this just
a couple of weeks ago and looked at Cincinnati tape
of of him, Travis Kelcey coming out. I wanted to
see what his body looked like in college, because the
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concern I have for Lovelin is that he's just he
doesn't have enough in his ass, he doesn't have enough
in his leg, like like what's this gonna do at
the line of scrimmage when he's trying to block the
edge on the outside zone, Like like like the end
is there, you got to try and hook the end.
And if you can't hook the end, at least you
gotta get some movement. And if you can't get movement,
at least you don't get pushed back. Like there's the concern, right,
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is the physic He just doesn't have the frame, whereas
ty Warren has the frame. Now, interestingly, if you take
if you take the best blocks on on the real
for Ty Warren, they're better than the best blocks for
for Loveland. If you take the worst blocks, the worst
blocks are by Warren, then leveland leveland Loveland's his official
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Cleveland just kind of said he's a really good athlete.
He doesn't have a great base and strength, but but
he'll he'll kind of battle and you're more likely to
get a stalemate. Ty Warren's going for the knockout and
he gets them sometimes, but he whiffs on others. Like
there's times you go, whoa that that's just a straight
like instant l on that play. And so so I
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think that Ty Warren's blocking on tape is more up
and down.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
He carried such a burden because Penn State's receivers on
a relative scale for a good team with a good quarterback,
they were a very very subpar who you can consider
that Drew Aller, and so he had to carry the
burden of the pass off I mean Ty Warren. He
lined up in the backfield sixty nine times, and I'm
not talking about quarterback. He lined up at quarterback forty times.
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He was recruited as a quarterback, right in line four
four hundred and fourteen times, slot to ninety three, wide
ninety three like he was the offense. So so the
idea that sometimes he doesn't he's not great on tape
with the run blocking, I think you could you could
reasonably make an excuse for that.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
All right, we were up against it. We're going to
come back with that. And do you think either one
will be on the board at eighteen, Yes or not?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I think Love him be more likely too, Okay, But
if I had to bet, I would bet no.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think they'll both be off. Edit two.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I think that the key points are New Orleans, Chicago
and the Colts. The Colts are at fourteen. They got
tight end written up because they got no one you need.
You have Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, and they couldn't,
to quote the late great Tom Lusorda, hit water if
they fell out of an f and boat.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But here's the thing, you know, so they need a
tight end well here.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
But I think a when you talk about Ty Warren,
I think a lot of teams need them because of course,
because I think the best tackle in this draft would
have been, you know, the sixth best tackle a year ago.
Same for wide receivers, you have to go back to
eighteen and nineteen. The receiver Like, there's a lot of
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positions this year where it's just this is a bad year.
I agree, I agree. So yeah, so if you can
get Warren instead of taking you know, one of the
higher ranked alignment, I know we got to go.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But Hugh Millan will continue to be here. We will
go through, We will go through player by player. I
don't want you to divulge anything because I want to
save it for the uh maler Millin twenty seventh draft
coming up today at Queen Anne Beer Hall. But I'm
going to get into some players next, so much more
right here, do not go anywhere on MJ in the
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midday on ninety three to three KJR FM. The Maler
Millin twenty seventh draft mock draft coming up later today
three o'clock at queen An Beer Hall in Queen Anne.
Looking forward to coming out there and seeing that and
seeing you and Softy I it's gonna be Please come.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
On out and join us. Yeah, am I on? Yeah,
there you go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Also, now, just the way it timed up, it's probably
not ideal, but really looking forward to being with Greg
Cosell today on Ian's show.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh nice and oh that's gonna be sweeing.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I like to to bark about Greg Cosell because of
any non player or non coach that I've ever been around,
Greg coselle knows more football than any non player non
coach I've ever been around.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He knows the stuff. The most important question not for me.
And we'll try to do this in less than sixty
seconds from Jason, and you can only say one thing
in less than sixty seconds. Ask you how many peanut
butter and jelly sandwich is gonna eat?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
In the draft?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm gonna I think the over unders four and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Four, okay, four and a half. I'll go over. I'll
go over. Okay, yeah, I'll go over on that all right,
Here come the receivers in this draft. Tedoroa, McMillan, Luther Burden,
Matthew Golden, Jaden Higgins, Seahawks in receivers. I think that this,
to me, is at eighteen is a luxury pick at eighteen.
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And I don't think there's anybody. There's nobody there to justify.
There's no Malik Neighbors in this draft?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Correct? There's no Marvin Harrison Junior in this draft? No? Okay,
well you say, you can say Travis Hunter, but he's
not gonna be available, Travis Hunter, I'm all four.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So if you're looking at not just the Seahawks overall,
what is your take on this receiver draft?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Last? Well, I've heard your.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Take and and I respect I respect you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I respect your take. Thank you. So let's have it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Let's have a dialogue on this, and let's see if
if I can't budge you, just nudge you. I'm not
going to change your mind, okay, but maybe I can.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I can soften on a class or on the Seahawks
taking a receiver at eighteen, both I would just okay,
So let's I'm gonna do what the text line told
me to do when you talks Mark Stfu, That's what
I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know, Okay, No, but no, but I want you.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
To because because I I I really consider your point,
and I and a good part of me agrees. First
of all, I think that offensive line is more important position, Okay,
but I do think wide receiver is a bigger need
right now as the rosters presently constitute than I think
you think it is. Then tight end, we're not talking
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about tight end. We'll just let's just talk about receiver.
We'll get to tight end because I do think you're
you're right to bring that up, because I do think
that there is synergy with where are you as for example,
if you get cold, I'll just I'll just get to
it right now. If you get Colson Loveland, you have
a target, an elite target that that on some level,
if you're Sam Darnold and you and you're in the
back of the pocket, say where's my dudes getting open?
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If you have Loveland, obviously that interplays with the quality
of your receivers.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Agreed. So yes, But if we.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Look at our Jackson Smith's in Jigma as a dude,
all right, he like and by the way, Ameca a
Buca local kid is a clone of him. Okay, So
Jackson Smith and Jigba we love of the thirty five
wide receivers who were targeted more than one hundred times. Jackson,
Smith and Jigua had more of the higher percentage in
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this slot than any of them. Okay, so then Cooper
Cup he had the sixth most in the slot. So
now I'm saying, okay, we're really good in the slot.
Who's outside going against corners in the National Who's who's
got the juice to beat corners? Well, we brought in
Marques Valdez Scanley. That's a cool and he's got three names.
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He must must be cool, right, So Kansas City they
jettisoned him. He had fourteen million dollars hit. Okay, I
can live with that.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
So now he.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Signs for buff for two and a quarter million, with
his value went from fourteen to two million. Now he's
plays for the Bills, And I watched the first game
was against Cardinals. They designed to play. They get double posts,
they got the quarters coverage on that side. It looks
like a walk in touchdown, and he just can't get
to the ball, just overthrown. And he goes three weeks,
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doesn't catch a ball from the hand of Josh Allen,
the MVP. They cut him. He's on the street for
a week. He gets signed by the Saints who had
too a lobby and Rashid Shahed two big receiver issues.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So he's on the street.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
He signs minimum minimum one point one million, the minimum salary.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I think, like it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You have to look at what the market is saying
for a guy. Okay, and so now he had a
pretty good he pretty good. Now he says a five
million dollar deal.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We'll see out.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
So's he's supposedly the speed guy. When I watched the tape,
I see a guy who looks who like his hip
flexers are all tightened up, like his stridelingk for a
guy is height, he's got short stride link and he's not.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
He's not the speed guy.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And the market has been has been telling us all
we have to do is say right, fourteen million, two million, no,
no catches, three weeks cut sign for a million. Like
if you're sitting there saying, Marcus Valdez scanaling's our outside, dude,
and you're counting on that, you're like, okay, just these
facts point, dude, we are way below average on the outside.
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And so I think there's a much bigger need because
we need to have somebody who can line up. I'll
give you a football term as the number one receiver,
not the best. Number one doesn't mean the best on
both sides of the formation defenses, they they say the
number one receiver is the guy closest to the sideline.
Doesn't matter he's a good receiver or allows you receive.
He's the number one receiver. And in most defenses the
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corner is going to be out there covering the number
one receiver. We need a guy who can line up
at the number one receiver and beat corners. And so
I do think we have a bigger need than you
think we have. But if they got Loveland, then now, okay,
maybe things changed, but you've got a quality of targets.
You still have to have the question of who's your
number one receiver? But at any rate, did I move you?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
You? Well, you will every time every time you say something, Hugh,
I'm taking copious notes with mentally and physically with my
pen here.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And yes, it's a dire need.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I just don't if Malik Neighbors in this draft, take
him at eighteen, trade up to take Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You wouldn't get Malik and Neighbors at eighteen. That's true. Well,
you trade up to eight to get trade up to five.
But Pet McMillan, you think he's too slow. I don't
like him.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I've heard some things about him, and I've heard things
I'm not going to share with on the air.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I don't like him. I just I think so.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
There's there's some character character concerns I just like, other
than his stats and like you know his game tape
in his film. Tell me a big game that he
had in college.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'll win three hundred and six yards in Week one.
It was a gain, a big game that actually I'm okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell me. Give me a big game against a quality opponent.
Tell me what what what game is? He's the Nikhil
Harriet this year's draft.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
So oh, by the way, right before you get we
are up against I kind of Chris is gonna.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No. I know, I gotta try to keep it somewhat. Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
We'll continue this in the question Cam Wred to Shadre Sanders,
what does Hugh Millan think about that. I will ask
it and I will go leave the room. I'll go
to Tacoma and I'll be back and it'll still talk
with me. Awesome, Hugh and MJ. In the midday right here,
on Sports Radio ninety three to three kJ r f
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the twenty sixth annual Maler Millin Draft today.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I guess twenty seven, but yours count after a while, Yeah, whatever,
exactly after you get past twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You're good.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
So at Queen and Beer Hall today, I'm gonna be
out there at three o'clock. Yeah, tell everybody. We want
everybody to come out out and join us, right, Yeah,
we'd love to have people come and look. Obviously there's
a local component here. With the Seahawks, we're gonna be
you know, grinding on the NFC West.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right. You got uh get You've got San.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Francisco eleven, the Cardinals at sixteen, you got the Rams
at twenty six.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
So, and I know there's a lot of national mocks
what we're doing. We're bringing our you know, our listeners
are in and there's an opportunity to win some prizes,
and and uh, you know, we talk about the team needs,
we talk about the players. And you know what's interesting
is is I've I've found in watching because you know,
I watched the national guys, and I think there's a
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and it's a good thing. It's it's it's a good
statement about humanity. I think I think most analysts and
I'm talking about twenty, they tend to want to say
good things about guys are going in the first round
because there's a presumption that they're good players.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's why they're going to go in the first round.
So we constantly, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Where you hear a lot more flowers about guys because
they're thought to be good. But the numbers you just
put in the spreadsheet, it doesn't matter the position. I mean,
quarterbacks are obvious. We'll talk about that in an hour, sir,
But it doesn't matter. I've I've filtered all the positions tackles.
You tell me a position, all pull up, how how
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many first round draft picks there have been at that position?
And I'll show you a less than fifty percent hit rate.
So it comes back to anybody, and I'm just doing
it on a local level, but anybody doing local or
national got to you gotta try and find signs. They're like,
wait a minute, this is a little bit of a tailtale.
This is a little whoe pump the brakes. And I
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think for the most part, when you hear analysts talk
in drafts and what most people want to be good guys.
So you don't want to sit there and be on
the guy on record saying well, I don't think this
guy's very good.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But you know, I appreciate that though. I love when
guys do that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I remember Mel Kuiper back in nineteen ninety five with
not Bill Pollian Tobin, Yes Tobin from the Famous One,
Famous One, and he and he said that they made
a mistake by passing on Trent Dilford for Trent Alberts
out of Nebraska. And he goes, what does Mel Kuiper know,
He goes, and Kuiper just went off heels this is
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why the.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Colts are picking in the top ten every single year.
And I loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But that was thirty something years ago, thirty one years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, so but how many times has Kiper done that? Now?
If you lost?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Because I went back and I literally googled mel kiper
Zach Wilson and some of these other guys and there
because I wanted to hear, and because it got to
what you want to know? I'm like, honestly, for me,
it's like I want to be a good guy too.
I want to be in the good guy club, right,
I don't want to be in the a whole club.
But but then I've got a spreadsheet of these numbers
(03:32):
and I'm like, wait a minute, does that make me
an a hole?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, I look at I go wait a minute.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Will Campbell is supposed to be the fourth pick in
the tackle and I've looked at, you know, tackles from
for twenty seven years.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm like, this guy doesn't look like a top ten
pick to me.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Wow, that's interesting, Like he's getting do I started three
years at LSU and the numbers are great, but he
he is really susceptible to a bull rush back in
the lap of the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Hugh. It doesn't make you an a hole. It makes
you real. And I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
A lot of the listeners and I, you know, just
judging on the instant feedback we get that I see
in real time is the text line and people. So
I call the Mariners lineup. I said, an hour ago,
you have four guys batting under two hundred that are
in the everyday batting lineup. I call it four men
out because that's what they are. If you're batting blow
two hundred and you're in a daily lineup, you are
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four men out. You have five chances more than likely
that you're gonna get a hit. It doesn't, and people
like thank you for the refreshing takes and calling it
and not being a ball washer and calling out Julio
for being this overrated guy that everyone wants to put
in the same breath as Mookie Betts and Juan Soto.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I want to ask you this before we get into
the just into everything in depth. I put a poll
up there. It's on the KGr Twitter handle. Do you
trust John Schneider to get this draft right?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
No? And why do I trust him? Based on the
other fifteen year sample size? I said, yes, I do
trust him on this one. And specifically, Hugh, all right,
you're not gonna hit sixty five percent on your draft picks.
You're not gonna that's never gonna happen. I mean it's
gonna rare. You know, they've got five picks in the
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first three rounds. Can he get those first five picks
as of now eighteen fifty, fifty two, eighty two, and
ninety two.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Can he hit on three out of those fos? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, First of all, I think John Schneider has an
interesting tenure as a Seahawk GM. He's been there fifteen years.
The first seven years, the Seahawks won nine playoff games.
The last eight years they've won one. The first three
drafts that he had twenty ten, eleven, and twelve eight
Pro Bowl players that the draft had seven rounds starting
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in nineteen ninety four since nineteen ninety four. I ran
a spreadsheet of every single team that have drafted in
You could write a easy formula where you say, okay,
how many Pro Bowls in the last three years. It
turns out there's only four teams that have done what
the Seahawks did in that regard. You had the Chargers
in the mid two thousands, that's right, LT and Sean Merriman.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Right. Sure, again, these are eight or more Pro Bowls
in a three year draft. By the way, Alan.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Later, but he's been around a minute yeah, so ye
had you had the forty nine ers in a.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Little bit late late two thousand.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Uh uh, you know, prior to twenty ten, and then
you have the Packers around twenty twelve and in twenty twelve.
So the Seahawks are one of four teams in that
three year period with John Schneider to have And these
weren't just like one off Pro Bowlers. These these are
Bobby Wagner's. These are you know, six eight Pro Bowls.
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So Wilson, you know, Richard Sherman five, you know, Cam
Chance or four like like major Earl Thomas, major dudes.
And uh and by the way that you should know this,
the LOB is the only defense in the history of
the NFL to have four straight years fewest points allowed.
Not the Purple Peep Leaders, not the Doomsday defense, not
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the Steel Curtains defense, the seventies Falcons remember that defense in.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
The seven Yeah no, no, they didn't know. Okay, I'm
just asking.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I didn't know, but because because that's an underrated, overlooked defense,
because they didn't want anything.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, and the Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Philadelphia with Buddy Ryan, the
Saints with Jim Moore. There's some there's there are some
great teams, great defenses rather that didn't win championships. But
I'll say it again, that lob only team ever. And
had they they won the Super Bowl against the Broncos
forty three to eight, had it been forty three to zero,
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because the eight points where garbage points. Had it been
forty three to zero against a record setting this is
not like, no, this is Baltimore playing Carry Collins in
the Super Bowl or two thousand, you know, the had
Derek Decker Welker, Uh, they were loaded.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That was that was a ESPN Sports center. That was
a Madden cheat code, offense cheat cod. That Broncos offense
was unbelievable, record setting across the world. And and and
Seattle just absolutely so nomide them. And so it had
it been forty three to nothing, I think that would
have increased the candidacy for some of the Hall of
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Fame uh candidates down the road with it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But getting back to Okay, so you're just so schnyder, Yeah,
do you trust?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
But here's here's where my first thought to me, the
Seahawks roster, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Really hot chick. And then you know the buck teeth
like chick.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You know, you know chicks from like like British chicks.
You know, like did you did you watch with White Lotus?
You know, yes, yeah, dating rip right, Yeah, Like that's
the Seahawks and and what are the buck teeth the
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Here's here's a stat for you. But you know there's
a visile line. We can fix that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, then let's get some a visi line starting tomorrow.
By the way, I had metal mouth three times. Okay,
you got it right, But the are like, oh she's hot,
Oh what keep your mouth closed? Right, and because that's
a deal breaker, right, like that as a deal breaker. So,
by the way, I don't have a problem with the
gap the buck is that's a different story. Yeah, yeah,
the gap, the gap. I don't have an issue in hand. No,
I'm okay with it. Then, Michael strahand it's all right.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Just the most Christopher bottom of about sing I'm looking
for as a straight handy.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
She flashes with a shoelace. Oh no no. But so
you have the Seahawks in fifteen years, so they have
this uh Fitzgerald Spielberger chart that has replaced the Jimmy
Johnson chart. Okay, okay, so this is what I'm about
to present to you is a fact based argument that
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the facts are not to be disputed. The only thing
that can be disputed is irrelevance or if there's some
other factors that superseded. Okay, fact, the Seattle Seahawks, over
the last fifteen years with Snyder as a GM have
spent more draft capital, as measured by the Fitzgerald Spielberger chart.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Than any team in the NFL. That is fact.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Okay, last fifteen years. You said, fifteen seasons, all fifteen years. Okay,
And now simultaneously, if you take Pro Football Focus, who's
Pro Football Focus? Excuse me? It's owned by Chris Collinsworth.
Every single team in the NFL subscribes to it. They
do a great job.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They do.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They get more right than wrong. Now I know, I
know examples where they get it wrong, but I think
they're you know, they're pretty good benchmark. They get more
right than wrong. We can agree on that.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
They rank offensive line groups at the end of every year.
If you take all fifteen years since even the twenty
thirteen when they won the Super Bowl, the Seahawks rank
is twenty five point one. So if you were ranked,
you know, average ranking is second or third, Like that'd
be great. The Seahawks average ranking over fifteen years is twenty.
(11:16):
Essentially the twenty fifth best offensive line over a fifteen
year period. That thirty two teams that is ranked dead last,
that average of twenty beingked even the worst.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Houston because Houston gave up fifty two sacks last year
with c. J.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, and well the second the second the worst over
the last four years is the Giants. The Seahawks are
second worst over the last four years. But over fifteen years,
the Seahawks have the worst and they've only been in
the top half one time. One time they were ranked fourteenth,
and so that is the fewest of any team in
the NFL, the fewest occasions in the top half. And
(11:56):
by the way, the Eagles are number one over that
fifteen year period. So surprised. So what's the summary? You
could say based on those metrics that the Seahawks over
fifteen years have A tried the hardest on their offensive
line and B performed the worst.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And that's the John Schneider issue.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now I'm not saying that's the only way to evaluate,
but it's a way, and it's a credible way.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
To describe the job is to evaluate the talent and
bring it in here. And you know how many offensive
line coaches are they on now in the last five years. Yeah,
I mean it's worse than the Krack And it's on
their third hockey coach in the last four years. I mean,
it's it's you know, it's like you it's a revolving door.
It's like we gotta you know, and it's like, Okay,
I hope John Benton's the right guy. I hope Clint
(12:44):
Kubiak is gonna Do you think the scheme Can the
scheme help out the olignements?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Okay, yeah, yeah, because because if you get to the apps,
if you become a proficient outside Z owned team, then
you can play under center more and and there's all
kinds of stats where we have Sam Darnold a under
the center more more proficient yards per attempt, I mean,
significantly higher than than uh Geno. So on those on
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those neutral downs you're gonna get if you fake the
outside run, the offensive line is moving laterally, the aiming
point for the running back is out either at the
tight end or the ghost of the tight end if
it's an open formation, and then the defensive line, they
have to go laterally and then when they decipher it's
play action, then they can get up the field. So
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you can on on neutral downs. What's a neutral down?
First and ten or second and six or less? Okay,
so you've got assuming you've gotten just you you're staying
even with the the the chains by being getting four
yards or more on first down. Okay, So those neutral downs, yes,
that that can that can help. And and uh, now
(13:58):
you still on third down on obvious passing situations, you know,
third and two or longer, you're you're still gonna have
to pass block. But the you know, the the methodology,
whatever they've been doing hasn't hasn't worked. They've they've drafted
offensive tackles from college and they moved them inside.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That hasn't been great.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
They've drafted, you know, the highest they've drafted a true
guard is third round.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Going back to the question, do you trust John Scheinder
to get this draft right?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
No? Or what?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And why?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I I don't want to be the local that says no,
but I'm but it's okay, I'm I'm I'm concerned because
it hasn't gotten right for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And and by the way, that's those are facts. That's
like you said, the one thing that you just brought up.
I love those three words you use, Hugh millan fact
based argument.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I let FB a fact based argument.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It's like the goat Tom Brady seven super Bowls, the
goat Michael Jordan six titles, six and oh never trailed
in a finals, six finals, MVPs. It's like, if you're
even comparing to those guys, then I don't even want
to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now. There was an argument one point.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I used to work with a guy who you probably
played against, Randy Cross, and Randy Cross used to argue
with me about Joe Montana being there and Tom Brady,
and at that point, Joe Montana had more Super Bowls
than Tom Brady, but then tom Brady won four more
and that argument kind of went out the way.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Well, I think anybody who says anybody other than Tom
Brady thank you is the goat needs to that's it.
Put down the brown liquor, Yeah, call an uber. Yeah,
go home and go to bed, that's sleep it off. Yeah,
that's pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah at that point, So I'm veering that you're just
saying that you're not just from what I'm ascertaining here,
you don't have the utmost just based on what he's
done recently, because like you said, ten or twenty twelve
was just lights out recently, you know, I mean you're
(16:01):
talking about Charles Cross, Abraham Lucas and why are we
still here every year?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hugh?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
All right? For?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Okay, So this is gonna be the twenty seventh for
the twenty eighth Mahler and Millin' draft. No, no, no, twenty
seven no, no, no, no, next year, next year. Sorry for
the twenty eighth days, We're all gonna be here. Yeah, yeah,
no doubt for the Mahler and Millen twenty eighth draft.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Next year. I have a question out there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Are we still gonna be talking about the Seahawks not
getting the on line right? Are we still a year
from now, Christopher kid? Are we gonna be a why
can't they get the O line right? Are we gonna
have that conversation in a year?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Let's be optimist. Now, I'll tell you a quick story.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So when I was at the Broncos, I'm the backup
quarterback to John Elway, and so I'm the scout team.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
By the way, and for those of you under the
age of thirty two years old, please YouTube, please Google.
He's now It's like they don't even mention him anymore
as one of the let me tell you something, one
of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, the greatest athletes
at quarterback of all time.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Well, mel kiper just I think I even uh saved
it on the DVR. He just said parenthetically about a
week ago. He goes, he's not my number one, uh
prospect of all time, that that's that will always be
John Elway. He said that parenthetically a week ago. You
know why because he's from Baltimore and they had the
number one pick ten. I don't think that's the only reason,
(17:23):
but fair enough. But but so wow, okay, oh, definitely
more the way he was thought of. Okay, yeah, I
mean he could have played for the Yankees. He's gonna
played anywhere. Beautiful athlete, movement, velocity like like like nobody's
ever thrown a ball with the velocity of him ever, right,
(17:45):
I mean, Josh Allen comes close, Brett Favre came close,
but a young John lay.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
George throwing not accurately, but but if but that guy
could just rev it up and he was just so
strong and he could just snap his hips and just
generate this crazy velocity. Right.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But anyways, so so.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I'm the I'm the backup and i'm which means I'm
the scout team, the look squad, right, so I'm going
against the Broncos number one defense. The center was a
seventh round kid from BC that I just we had
a little BC thing because I had played for the Patriot.
We had this New England thing going on, right, and
you know, a short guy, you know, undersize. I didn't
think anything of this dude. You know, I just thought
(18:25):
he was a nice guy. But his seventh round pick,
he'd probably be gone next year.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So now Mike Shanahan comes in that year, he was
he was the hot stuff, and he's going to bring
the outside zone. And they're kind of looking at Kubiak.
Gary Kubiak was my quarterback coach, and and there's like, hey,
we kind of like this this scout team center, this
seventh rounder from last year, this rookie seventh rounder, And
you know, I didn't really register a thought. I like
(18:50):
the guy, I'm not going to denigrate him. But next scene,
his name was Tom nalan Oh.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He was.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
He was a two time first team All Pro I
think five time Pro bowler and the center of an
offensive line that year after year was producing twelve hundred
and fourteen you know, not just Torrell Davis, but you know,
you know, it didn't matter who Orlandos, Gary, didn't matter who,
you know who they put back there. So so could
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that Rick. The offensive line coach was Alex Gibbs at
the time, the father, godfather of the outside zone. On
that staff, the assistant offensive line coach was Rick Dennison.
Rick Dennison is the current Seattle Seahawk running game coordinator.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Just got hired.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So Rick Dennison has this background with what am I
trying to say? There may be somebody he's a lot
like Tom Moore. Oh Tom Moore the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well well no, no, no, no, for the coat.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, the guy who's been around forever, he's got these
that that old kind of yeah. Yeah yeah tomk yeah
was one the best. Oh wow yeah, but so so Millan.
Why are you bringing this up? Yeah, Okay, here's the relevance.
Rick Dennison is the current running game coordinator for the Seahawks.
He was He was brought up under Alex Gibbs. What's
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Alex Gibbs philosophy. Hey, on my interior, guys, I don't
need him tall, I don't even necessarily need him heavy,
but I need him smart and I need him with
pretty quick feet. Christian Haynes was had a little bit
of a deficiency in his power, but smart played the
outside zone scheme at Yukon has better agility, uh, you
(20:39):
know rankings than he does power rankings. There may be
somebody on that roster, and I'm specifically thinking of Christian Haynes,
the third round draft pick last year. That may be
one of those where the new staff comes in and says,
you know, we kind of like.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
This guy that that was a holdover. I've already experienced that,
and we got a coach that that may.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hugh Millen is in studio. We are up against it.
We're gonna come back with you and I'm gonna take that.
Maybe you're in the category of what's wait and see,
which we're all wait and see on if Schneider can
get this draft right. But we'll we'll talk and we'll
get into the draft. And the Seahawks are at eighteen
two picks in the second round at fifteen and fifty
two and then two in the third round as well.
(21:20):
Hugh Millan in studio here on MJ in the midday,
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Speaker 1 (21:34):
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on that one the onions you want on these? Yeah,
I want to give though, no I did. I made
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couldn't tell you. I'm like, listen, man, I don't want
you something happening and you're having convulsions and I'm not
giving you mouth to mouth. So now that's not happening.
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But Bor said's coming in the house these sandwiches. I
tell you what Patrick brought these in last time.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
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they are the let's just say, Patrick Mahomes, oh boy of.
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Oh yeah, they've been around for a while. Okay, long time,
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mahomes a no, Bor said. Bor said, well, hopefully, you know,
(22:49):
we might think of somebody other than Pat Mahomes and
we're doing that. But anyway, whatever you like, you know,
it's you know, hey, I'm my guy's cam word, so
I have a bro crush on cam Word. So all right,
let's just say let's start here real quick. Seahawks are
on the clock of the eighteen. I want to give
you one player, Colston Lovelin. I talked to his father
this week and he goes to me out his father's
(23:09):
a really nice guy.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Chad talk to him in out a Twin Falls, Idaho.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Want to get him on the show this week, So
I'm going to share this with the audience because this
is my job. And he didn't say it was off
the record. The Seahawks have talked to Colston Loveland. They've
talked to him multiple times. According to Chad Loveland, Colston
Lovel's dad, there's sort of inside information. He didn't want
to come on like he would, did not return my
text or whatever. We had a very nice conversation. So
(23:34):
if you're not gonna come on, you're gonna go to
me like a bad tender match, then I'm gonna go
and ahead and say the Seahawks are interested in Colts.
They have talked to him multiple times. Give us your
breakdown in Colston Lovelin.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Well, you look at him, and I think those with
some computer experience I'll know what I'm talking about. You know,
when you have a vector image on it and you
click it and then there's a you know, there's a
a little dotter line around and there's four corners. If
you take a corner, not the side or the top,
but the corner and then you stretch it, it will
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it will grow proportionally like a thumbnail.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Sort of. Yeah, But well, I.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Don't want to get too techy but but bitmap is issue,
images won't won't grow as proportionally if a vector issue
is there's mathematical so like like if you have a
vector issue of a corvette on it right, a little car,
you say, oh, well, I want a bigger corvette. You
just take the corner and you just grow it, and
(24:34):
now all of a sudden it grows in proportion. Colston
Lovelin is a wide receiver that you click and then
you take the corner and you grow it to six
foot six and two forty five. Is he a little
like brock Bowers he's taller than rock Round. No, nobody
(24:55):
don't in terms of like he doesn't have the run
after the catch. He doesn't have the run after the catch.
But he's he's he's significantly bigger than.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Brock Bauers all right, higher ceiling Colston Loveland or Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Oh Man, Well, I would take Warren because he's he's
kind of.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like got gronk written all over. That's it. That's it
right there.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I know now if you if you grade them on
different facets of the game, there's it's undeniable that Colston
Loveland is more receiver, like in terms of his route
running ability, his burst.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Okay, I think Lincoln wide receiver like Lincoln Riley and us.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
He might disagree with you because he caught seventeen.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I mean, God, but no, no, but but hang on,
But those two truths can be the same. He can be,
he can more be more receiver, like he's just a
large receiver Leveland whereas ty Warren, if you think of Gronk, Gronk,
he just plays bully ball. So Ty Warren is a guy.
Instead of six foot five and six eights, Tyler Warren
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is six foot five and I believe three eight, so
he's just a hair shorter. But he's much that he's
torn sixty pounds and his strength at the point of
attack is insane. He had on his on his reception.
If you watch every single time he's throwing the ball,
he has more one handed catches than he has drops.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And that's a fact that's not just being hype bart.
He has more shut the front door.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
This dude serious like insane hands and by the way,
more cat drops. He he was when when I first
saw him. Now I watched the USC game live like
everybody like seventeen cats, Like you gotta be kidding let
me line up a center.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Let me cause I know you get going. So I
want to just you, you made the comparison. And and
by the way, apt One at that, Tyler Warren at Gronk,
we can all And and by the way, we don't
need to be as smart and in depth as hu
Milling to see that.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Who does Colston Lovelin remind you of a current or
past tight end more with? I think, yes, oh, really good.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
That's a very good comp Yes, very good comp You
just you, you know, I want to say Travis Kelcey
at at some point. But I went back this just
a couple of weeks ago and looked at Cincinnati tape
of of him, Travis Kelcey coming out. I wanted to
see what his body looked like in college, because the
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concern I have for Lovelin is that he's just he
doesn't have enough in his ass, he doesn't have enough
in his leg, like like what's this gonna do at
the line of scrimmage when he's trying to block the
edge on the outside zone, Like like like the end
is there, you got to try and hook the end.
And if you can't hook the end, at least you
gotta get some movement. And if you can't get movement,
at least you don't get pushed back. Like there's the concern, right,
(27:47):
is the physic He just doesn't have the frame, whereas
ty Warren has the frame. Now, interestingly, if you take
if you take the best blocks on on the real
for Ty Warren, they're better than the best blocks for
for Loveland. If you take the worst blocks, the worst
blocks are by Warren, then leveland leveland Loveland's his official
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Cleveland just kind of said he's a really good athlete.
He doesn't have a great base and strength, but but
he'll he'll kind of battle and you're more likely to
get a stalemate. Ty Warren's going for the knockout and
he gets them sometimes, but he whiffs on others. Like
there's times you go, whoa that that's just a straight
like instant l on that play. And so so I
(28:37):
think that Ty Warren's blocking on tape is more up
and down.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
He carried such a burden because Penn State's receivers on
a relative scale for a good team with a good quarterback,
they were a very very subpar who you can consider
that Drew Aller, and so he had to carry the
burden of the pass off I mean Ty Warren. He
lined up in the backfield sixty nine times, and I'm
not talking about quarterback. He lined up at quarterback forty times.
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He was recruited as a quarterback, right in line four
four hundred and fourteen times, slot to ninety three, wide
ninety three like he was the offense. So so the
idea that sometimes he doesn't he's not great on tape
with the run blocking, I think you could you could
reasonably make an excuse for that.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
All right, we were up against it. We're going to
come back with that. And do you think either one
will be on the board at eighteen, Yes or not?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I think Love him be more likely too, Okay, But
if I had to bet, I would bet no.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think they'll both be off. Edit two.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I think that the key points are New Orleans, Chicago
and the Colts. The Colts are at fourteen. They got
tight end written up because they got no one you need.
You have Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, and they couldn't,
to quote the late great Tom Lusorda, hit water if
they fell out of an f and boat.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But here's the thing, you know, so they need a
tight end well here.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
But I think a when you talk about Ty Warren,
I think a lot of teams need them because of course,
because I think the best tackle in this draft would
have been, you know, the sixth best tackle a year ago.
Same for wide receivers, you have to go back to
eighteen and nineteen. The receiver Like, there's a lot of
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positions this year where it's just this is a bad year.
I agree, I agree. So yeah, so if you can
get Warren instead of taking you know, one of the
higher ranked alignment, I know we got to go.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But Hugh Millan will continue to be here. We will
go through, We will go through player by player. I
don't want you to divulge anything because I want to
save it for the uh maler Millin twenty seventh draft
coming up today at Queen Anne Beer Hall. But I'm
going to get into some players next, so much more
right here, do not go anywhere on MJ in the
(30:52):
midday on ninety three to three KJR FM. The Maler
Millin twenty seventh draft mock draft coming up later today
three o'clock at queen An Beer Hall in Queen Anne.
Looking forward to coming out there and seeing that and
seeing you and Softy I it's gonna be Please come.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
On out and join us. Yeah, am I on? Yeah,
there you go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Also, now, just the way it timed up, it's probably
not ideal, but really looking forward to being with Greg
Cosell today on Ian's show.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh nice and oh that's gonna be sweeing.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I like to to bark about Greg Cosell because of
any non player or non coach that I've ever been around,
Greg coselle knows more football than any non player non
coach I've ever been around.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He knows the stuff. The most important question not for me.
And we'll try to do this in less than sixty
seconds from Jason, and you can only say one thing
in less than sixty seconds. Ask you how many peanut
butter and jelly sandwich is gonna eat?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
In the draft?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm gonna I think the over unders four and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Four, okay, four and a half. I'll go over. I'll
go over. Okay, yeah, I'll go over on that all right,
Here come the receivers in this draft. Tedoroa, McMillan, Luther Burden,
Matthew Golden, Jaden Higgins, Seahawks in receivers. I think that this,
to me, is at eighteen is a luxury pick at eighteen.
(32:23):
And I don't think there's anybody. There's nobody there to justify.
There's no Malik Neighbors in this draft?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Correct? There's no Marvin Harrison Junior in this draft? No? Okay,
well you say, you can say Travis Hunter, but he's
not gonna be available, Travis Hunter, I'm all four.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So if you're looking at not just the Seahawks overall,
what is your take on this receiver draft?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Last? Well, I've heard your.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Take and and I respect I respect you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I respect your take. Thank you. So let's have it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Let's have a dialogue on this, and let's see if
if I can't budge you, just nudge you. I'm not
going to change your mind, okay, but maybe I can.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I can soften on a class or on the Seahawks
taking a receiver at eighteen, both I would just okay,
So let's I'm gonna do what the text line told
me to do when you talks Mark Stfu, That's what
I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know, Okay, No, but no, but I want you.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
To because because I I I really consider your point,
and I and a good part of me agrees. First
of all, I think that offensive line is more important position, Okay,
but I do think wide receiver is a bigger need
right now as the rosters presently constitute than I think
you think it is. Then tight end, we're not talking
(33:35):
about tight end. We'll just let's just talk about receiver.
We'll get to tight end because I do think you're
you're right to bring that up, because I do think
that there is synergy with where are you as for example,
if you get cold, I'll just I'll just get to
it right now. If you get Colson Loveland, you have
a target, an elite target that that on some level,
if you're Sam Darnold and you and you're in the
back of the pocket, say where's my dudes getting open?
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If you have Loveland, obviously that interplays with the quality
of your receivers.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Agreed. So yes, But if we.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Look at our Jackson Smith's in Jigma as a dude,
all right, he like and by the way, Ameca a
Buca local kid is a clone of him. Okay, So
Jackson Smith and Jigba we love of the thirty five
wide receivers who were targeted more than one hundred times. Jackson,
Smith and Jigua had more of the higher percentage in
(34:26):
this slot than any of them. Okay, so then Cooper
Cup he had the sixth most in the slot. So
now I'm saying, okay, we're really good in the slot.
Who's outside going against corners in the National Who's who's
got the juice to beat corners? Well, we brought in
Marques Valdez Scanley. That's a cool and he's got three names.
(34:49):
He must must be cool, right, So Kansas City they
jettisoned him. He had fourteen million dollars hit. Okay, I
can live with that.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
So now he.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Signs for buff for two and a quarter million, with
his value went from fourteen to two million. Now he's
plays for the Bills, And I watched the first game
was against Cardinals. They designed to play. They get double posts,
they got the quarters coverage on that side. It looks
like a walk in touchdown, and he just can't get
to the ball, just overthrown. And he goes three weeks,
(35:20):
doesn't catch a ball from the hand of Josh Allen,
the MVP. They cut him. He's on the street for
a week. He gets signed by the Saints who had
too a lobby and Rashid Shahed two big receiver issues.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So he's on the street.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
He signs minimum minimum one point one million, the minimum salary.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I think, like it.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You have to look at what the market is saying
for a guy. Okay, and so now he had a
pretty good he pretty good. Now he says a five
million dollar deal.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We'll see out.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
So's he's supposedly the speed guy. When I watched the tape,
I see a guy who looks who like his hip
flexers are all tightened up, like his stridelingk for a
guy is height, he's got short stride link and he's not.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
He's not the speed guy.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And the market has been has been telling us all
we have to do is say right, fourteen million, two million, no,
no catches, three weeks cut sign for a million. Like
if you're sitting there saying, Marcus Valdez scanaling's our outside, dude,
and you're counting on that, you're like, okay, just these
facts point, dude, we are way below average on the outside.
(36:31):
And so I think there's a much bigger need because
we need to have somebody who can line up. I'll
give you a football term as the number one receiver,
not the best. Number one doesn't mean the best on
both sides of the formation defenses, they they say the
number one receiver is the guy closest to the sideline.
Doesn't matter he's a good receiver or allows you receive.
He's the number one receiver. And in most defenses the
(36:52):
corner is going to be out there covering the number
one receiver. We need a guy who can line up
at the number one receiver and beat corners. And so
I do think we have a bigger need than you
think we have. But if they got Loveland, then now, okay,
maybe things changed, but you've got a quality of targets.
You still have to have the question of who's your
number one receiver? But at any rate, did I move you?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
You? Well, you will every time every time you say something, Hugh,
I'm taking copious notes with mentally and physically with my
pen here.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And yes, it's a dire need.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I just don't if Malik Neighbors in this draft, take
him at eighteen, trade up to take Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You wouldn't get Malik and Neighbors at eighteen. That's true. Well,
you trade up to eight to get trade up to five.
But Pet McMillan, you think he's too slow. I don't
like him.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I've heard some things about him, and I've heard things
I'm not going to share with on the air.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I don't like him. I just I think so.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
There's there's some character character concerns I just like, other
than his stats and like you know his game tape
in his film. Tell me a big game that he
had in college.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'll win three hundred and six yards in Week one.
It was a gain, a big game that actually I'm okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell me. Give me a big game against a quality opponent.
Tell me what what what game is? He's the Nikhil
Harriet this year's draft.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
So oh, by the way, right before you get we
are up against I kind of Chris is gonna.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No. I know, I gotta try to keep it somewhat. Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
We'll continue this in the question Cam Wred to Shadre Sanders,
what does Hugh Millan think about that. I will ask
it and I will go leave the room. I'll go
to Tacoma and I'll be back and it'll still talk
with me. Awesome, Hugh and MJ. In the midday right here,
on Sports Radio ninety three to three kJ r f
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