April 29, 2025 • 39 mins
Nick Baumgardner is back on with Marc James! Nick shares his thoughts on the Seahawks draft class, Jalen Milroe, what does the future hold for the athletic QB, Riley Mills DT, can he make the Seahawks roster, and much more. We read back messages from listeners, and we wrap the show with Ian Furness as he shares what he has planned on his show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's fun, like we have every day here fun on
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in the books and our now good friend Nick Baumgardner
has been with us from the beginning to the end
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and after and he's with the Athletic you heard him
last week on this show. Nick. All in all, just
from a drama factor, so many different things with just
that factor alone, on a scale of one to ten,
where would you rank this draft?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, I mean, I don't know if it was the
most dramatic ever. I feel like we've had some where
there's a bunch of stuff going on, but in terms
of one player, I feel like that's a ten. This
stuff with Shador Sanders was kind of unlike anything I've
ever seen. And the weird part was if you kind
of juxtaposed that with this act that a lot of
the picks kind of went off the board, at least
in the first you know, fifty or sixty about the
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way we thought they would. You know, he kind of
really stuck out even more so. It was a lot
It was definitely a lot. I think we all kind
of knew it wouldn't be boring with Shader, but yeah,
that was a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So why did it happen? I mean, we saw what happened,
but why was this just an indictment of the way
that he acted? I mean I read something, you know,
it's it's really long last hour basically talking about and
it was worse than the stable thing and just saying
that an NFL executive I'm paraphrasing here Nick that in
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thirty three years he's never seen a pre Madonna. The
defensive players who met him that day wanted us to
draft him so they could knock him out in practice,
and for four straight rounds, thirty two teams said no,
thank you, and he gets drafted in the first in
the fifth round. Why did it take so long? And
is he just a backup quarterback? With this? It's just
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an affront and just sort of like a mirage.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I think that that's the main driver of the whole thing,
and it is very complicated. There's a lot of layers
to it. Like you said, you know, he did not
interview well with many teams. I'd heard that, you know,
we'd heard that for quite a while. You know, the
Raiders were one that were linked to them, were to
him for a long time. And you know we'd heard
here that that that just wasn't gonna happen. Uh, the
interview did not go well, and I think that the
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reason why that sort of stuff comes up. You know,
I'm not sure if every interview didn't go well or
if it was one of those things where, like you said,
like reputation precedes himself and you know the way that
I mean the family sort of carries itself in a
way like that they're acting in a show like it's
the reality show.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Like everything they're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Is its own, like steparate thing away from football. And
you know, I mean if you were a receiver or
a running back or something like that, you might be
able to get away with it. Defensive player maybe, but
if you're the quarterback, that's just not gonna work in
the NFL. And I you know, I wrote this probably
on Thursday or Friday. I guess it was Friday. You know,
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this whole thing from Sugar Sanders and more so the
adults who were advising him, is a blueprint on what
not to do if you're a prospective quarterback. Trying to
get into trying to get drafted. I mean, you cannot
carry yourself with delusion the way that was going on here.
I mean, at the end of the day, this was
a backup quarterback with with upside. You know that can
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turn into a functioning starter. But you know, we've said
this time and time again for months, Like if you
if you looked at last year's draft, he wouldn't have
gone in front of any of those guys in the
top six. And if you add in the fact that
he's got an attitude, you know, whether or not that's
him or whether or not he's projecting that because he
feels like his dad wants him to.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I mean, that's all interpersonal stuff that they that they have,
but that's that is what it is. And I think
that there's a lot of that part that goes on
with it. And then the other part too, is if
you're a coach that isn't super secure in his job,
do you want Deon Sanders calling you and bothering you?
Do you want this to be on first take every
single day? Do you want Donald Trump weighing it? I mean, like,
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do you want to deal with that as the backup quarterback.
And the answer for most teams is no.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
We don't, right, and that knows it. And you know,
and you know what nick I said. You know, about
six weeks ago we first started talking about the draft,
maybe two months ago, and I first got on the
air here, nick I said, they don't want the circus,
they don't want the clowns show. They don't They just
don't want it. And can I also let me ask
you this, and I said this too. I also think
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this was a Stone Colt Steve Austin double middle finger salute.
I don't think any thirty two NFL teams want Dion
Sanders to be a head coach anytime soon. Well, I
don't know about all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Maybe there might be some of that, But I think
that the other part too, that the layer in there.
If you're a coach on the hot seat and you're
saying to your owner, I'm not drafting a backup quarterback
so she could fire me and then hired Diana in
the year. Not doing that like that's not going to happen. No,
justified or not fair or not. That was a concern.
And you know, I think that at the end of
the day, the way I kind of looked at it,
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and I you know, last year when we saw Caleb
Williams and Marvin Harrison and some of those guys not
work out and tests, I remember thinking to myself and
I said it that I was like, this is not
gonna be good for other people who think that they're
on this level and they're not, and like that's essentially
what's happened here. And the other factor, too, I think,
is that if you're if you're approaching this from the
way that they approached it, there's not one NFL team
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among the thirty two that need more promotion, that need
more attention, that need to stand. Nobody needs that. That's
just not how the NFL works. Baseball, sure, hockey, maybe basketball,
maybe not this. And I think that that's ultimately why
he fell. And you know, it's a lot of things
at once, but it starts with he wasn't as good
as he purported to be. He hid from competition the
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entire year and acted like that in meetings, and it's
not gonna work if that's how if that's how you're
gonna do things.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Nick bomb Gardner from the Athletic here on MJ in
the midday and just Moreover, the Cleveland Browns took six
picks before they selected Shadure Sanders, and they took Dylan
Gabriel fifty fifty slots before they took Shader Sanders, which
to me is almost like, okay, we'll just take them.
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It's our last It was their last pick of the draft.
They didn't have another pick after the fifth round. We
don't expect them to be much, but we'll take them
and let it any and ironically enough to Nick, and
I said, this too is where I think he's the
second coming of Johnny Manziel. And who does he go
to the team who drafted Johnny Manziel, Right? I mean yeah,
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I mean it's it's hard to say, you know, because
it's like I do. From a talent standpoint, he's better
than Dylan Gabriel. Yes he is, you know, if there's
a situation also at factor here, and I think this
also factored in.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
He has never, since high school through college, had to
compete for a job.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He's had his dad as.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
His offensive cordator in high school. He goes to college,
his dad's his coach, which he transfers to Colorado. His
dad says, you're the starter before you got there like,
it's just not normal. It's not a situation. His dad
had as much to do with it as anything else.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
By the way, I just tell you this, thank you
for coming. I never thought about that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You're absolutely yeah, that's a That is one of the
biggest parts of this whole thing. You know when kids
say in the and not just quarterbacks, right, this happens
to everybody. Will Johnson fell in the draft, a kid
from Michigan, right because he didn't work out, he didn't test,
didn't do anything. You can't do that all spring and
offseason unless you are you know, Travis Hunter, unless you
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are that good. You have to compete because they want
to see every rep. Every situation they put you in
is supposed to be uncomfortable, and you're supposed to deal
with it. And if you refuse and want to do it,
you know, on your own terms and privately. Just this
is not the NBA. That's what I end up saying
more often than not, these teams are not going to
deal with it. This is the most competitive professional league
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in the world, and that's that's the bottom line of
the whole thing. And he didn't act like a player
who wanted to compete. I think that's another factor too.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Wow, and do you project? Do you think? My thing
is this? I asked a friends this last night who
which will last longer? Maybe should do a poll question
on this, Bill Belichick at North Carolina or Chauduur Solders
in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know what, I al will say that one think
that I think at yeah, at Belichick, that's a whole
another mess for another day. I will say though, that
if shows up serious and wants to compete and play football,
there's nothing stop at him from you know, rising up
in that quarterback room. That's not exactly a murderer's road there. No.
You know, now next year, when they draft a better rookie,
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which I think that they might, that could be another conversation.
But you know, I could definitely see a scenario where
he comes in, plays well, plays hard, shows himself in camp,
and then you know, get some time. But you know,
we'll see how it goes. They got five quarterbacks in there, though,
for Crane out lot, I don't know how you're supposed
to develop all that, and one of.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Them is not playing next year and he's guaranteed getting
a two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed contract. So
there's that, all right. How about the Seahawks. Let's let's
talk about the hometown team here and look at Gray's abel.
You and I we talked about him, all right. So
let's go to the second round. They trade up to
thirty five, Nick emm and Warre safety South Carolina first
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round talent, and then my guy from the U Elijah
Arroyo Titan, another first round type talent, and then we'll
get to Milroe. Let's start with em and Warry. Where
do you rank that pick for the Seahawks. Oh, that
was an a all the way. I mean, that was
one of the I mean em and Worry I thought
could have gone off the board in the teens. You know,
this is the best pound for pound pure athlete in
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the draft, regardless of position. You know, almost just freakish
everything he can do. I mean, he's still young and
still has some things to work on in terms of
you know, covered discipline and all that, because he's a
ball hawk who goes after the football, but he's kind
of a walking big play.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I mean, this was just a phenomenal draft pick by
a franchise that almost always finds a way to get
good safeties in there, and you know, he was one
of the He was the one guy that I really
looked at on day two and I was like, how
is he still here? That that did surprise me that
he fell and for them to go to get that
done was terrific. Also a royal, like you said, I
mean another guy who I think can do more than
just run the scene. I think he's going to be
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a competitive blocker. I think he can do other things
and move around for you too. So you know, the
Seahawks had a great draft and those top three guys
were terrific.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Jalen Milroe to see, I mean a guy who threw
five more touchdown passes than you or me last year,
Nicky but freak athlete Lamar Jackson, athleticism and strong as
an ox. Do you see him potentially being a future
starter or maybe just let's just say Seattle Swiss army
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knife like Taysom Hill.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I mean I think that the Swiss army knife
is probably your worst case scenario. And I think that
that was something that was underlooked or undervalue by people,
is that you can get something out of Jalen if
the quarterback thing doesn't click or whatever it is. But
the beauty of this pick, and I thought it was
a great fit, is you don't have to immediately just
you know them in there and rush him or anything
like that. I mean, you've got a starter who's under contract.
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He's an unquestioned starter. You can let Milroe learn. You
can use him in the Taysom Hill type roles right
now while he learns, and you know, there's not gonna
be a ton of pressure on him to get around.
And I think if you can find a way, you know,
to get him to turn a corner, you know, which
is easier something done in the NFL. But if you
can do that, he could be a terrific addition and
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a terrific starter at some point down the road. I mean,
a lot of people didn't think Jalen Jalen Hurts could
do this, and he played better in college obviously than
Milroe did, but a lot of people didn't still didn't
think that this was possible for Hurts, and he's phenomenal,
so it's not out of the realm of possibility that
Milrow ends up being a nice part. I thought that
was a really good pick, and it's a really good fit.
It's exactly the kind of place that I felt like
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he needed to go to.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
All Right, we're gonna come back to the ones. We're
gonna jump ahead to. Obviously the biggest Achilles heel of
the Seahawks for ten to fifteen years, the O line.
Six round Bryce Cable do guard Kansas and then seven
round Mason Richmond tackle Iowa grade. Those guys in could
they make the team? I mean it's you know, six
and seven round picks don't have a strong likelihood. Could
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they make this team?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I think Cable new could.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, if you were looking at a guy that
it depends on, you know, what they want him to
do college tackle, he could go inside and play guard.
I think he did play guard at the Shrine Bowl.
Look pretty good. He's got good length, He's a really
good athlete, really good mover. So I think he's a
guy that, you know, for the sixth round, which is
you're sort of just throwing a dart at that point,
you know, I think he's a guy especially in your
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situation in Seattle where it's like you're still trying to
find your way through everything there. He was a guy
that I think was a late sort of he wasn't
as a late bloomer. I guess we'd call it right,
like a guy that figured it out as he went along.
And I think usually with guys like that, sometimes you
know their best football is still in the front of him.
So I think that he has a chance for sure.
Even though they have brought in, you know, a lot
of guys over the last few years, and then you
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know Richmond, you know, you never know what the Iowa guys,
I think that that's another one that you know. So
I don't know if he's gonna have to also move
inside and play guard. I mean he was a tackle,
but like the same thing. I mean, good athlete, he
can thump, He's very technically sound. He played at Iowa,
So you know, those guys always end up having a chance.
So I think those are two solid, you know, dart
throws if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
At the end of the draft, Riley Mills, defensive end
Notre Dame in the fifth round. Do you see him?
I mean, this is a top five defense even before
this draft. You add em and Warri and now you
put Riley Mills, who was the second defensive player. Actually
they only had two defensive players. Take him the entire draft,
So it was em and Worry and Mills. Can Mills
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make the team at from a fifth round out of
Notre Dame? Does he have the size and the speed
and athleticism to make this team?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think he does. I think he has the size
and dependent he comes back off of the knee, and
there's some versatility in there with him too. But the
main thing with him is he plays really, really hard.
I mean, he's a really dedicated football player. Everybody there
at Notre Dame loved him. I think it was a
captain last year and a guy that when he went
down even in the in the playoff there you could
see the look on people's faces about how much it
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meant to him, you know, and how much of a
bummer that was for him too. But this is also
a very strong football player. I think he was on
Bruce Feldman's Freaks list at one point or another.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
In his career.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Benches near five hundred pounds or four to fifty anyway,
something like that. You know, really really, you know, a
beast kind of guy in the weight room more or less.
So I think that he's a guy that will give
himself a chance with his effort, his sort of dedication
and the ability to out work people. And I think
that that often, you know, Shines shows up well, you know,
for young people on a team that is still looking
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for anybody to kind of come in and fill any
kind of role, which I think is what you'll get
from him. Just anything you want me to do, I'll
do it. And I don't think there'll be any issues there.
So I think he had a chance for sure. That's
a nice pick. Also in the Seahawks, again, they had
a nice draft. Everybody more or less that they took
I think was a solid player.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's good. I'm going to ask you about the two receivers.
One in the fifth round, Tory Horton out of Colorado State,
and then in the seventh round Ricky White, the third
out of UNLV.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah. I really like Tory Horton. I thought that that
was a really good value. I think Tory Horton was
a borderline top one hundred guy in this class. You know.
I thought I had him on Day two somewhere four
four forty bigger guy. He's a legit X if he
need him to be an ex made a lot of
plays at Colorado State for several years and I think
is also a guy too that you know, had a
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chance to leave, had a chance to make more money elsewhere,
and didn't came back. He played through an injury and
all that stuff, which we'll you know, we'll see how
he comes back from that too, but also a punk returner,
play on special teams, and you know, a really good
yards after the Catchdowp. I really think he could be
a fine for them. And Ricky White. I liked that flyer.
You know, he's a guy who's small, you know, not
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as fast as you would like for a guy that size,
but also a guy that you know, found a way
to get open really consistently. Just a very very good
route runner. That a guy that if nothing else, I
feel like he probably ends up on the practice squad
and might be somebody who pushes them in camp, Like
he'll be a guy in the spring here when they
bring him in that that'll look great. I mean, and
when they've get shorts on and he's running, you know,
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you know, running against guys and just kind of one
on one so look terrific in those and bother people
enough to where I think he'll probably end up having
a chance to do something. But at least if something
else he stays with your organization, probably, I would imagine,
because I think he's a guy that is a little
bit of a gnat for some of those defensive backs.
He's really hard to cover him. Nice player.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
You know, in Clinton Kobiac's outside zone running scheme, they
want to run the ball. They draft Robbie Outs to
fall back out of Alabama. And you took about value
Nick getting Damien Martinez from Miami in the seventh round
did not have a strong combine slow forty, But I mean,
you talk about value this dude, and I've seen I
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saw him at Oregon State and certainly saw him as
Elijah Arroyos teammate. This past season, he had some Bo
Jackson super techmobile like runs where defenders were bouncing off him.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So those two guys, do you see them being able
to make the active fifty three man roster.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, I think. I think what we're seeing here is
a commitment to extra toughness, and you're seeing that from
a lot of teams across the league right now. But
you know, without I mean, my god, that guy was
a lot of fun. I mean the mustache and everything
else alone next to worth, the pick there. But he
talk about a guy who loves football, like that guy
lives the block. He doesn't care if he ever touches
the ball, like that's his whole, you know, an extra
offensive lineman with wheels out there. So I love picks
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like that. I love when teams take chances on guys
like that because I think it always ends up. You know,
I also play every special team, every you know, whatever
that you ask him to do to a maximum effort.
You know, him and c. J. Deprie, the other kid
at Alabama who I liked a lot, were two of
the hardest workers that you'll find that'll do just about
anything that you want. And then the thing with Martinez,
I think that a lot of teams the reason why
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he probably fell because I agree I thought he was
a you know, close to the top one fifty somewhere
in there probably. But the reason why I think he
fell is a lot of people see him as a
you know, just a one speed guy who's just in
between the tackles and that's maybe all he can do.
But I I think that number one, he's very good
at that. So, like I mean, if you're at seeing
a guy to come in here and take some of
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those the dirty work runs or the you know, the
heavy runs that you don't want to give to a
smaller back. He can absolutely do that. And I think
he's better in some of the other areas too. If
you want to stretch and do some zone stuff with
him too, I think he can handle it, because, like
you said, he's really really hard to tackle. And it's
not just it's not one thing. He's not a phenomenal,
overwhelming athlete or whatever, but he's also not a bad
athlete two hundred and twenty pounds and is willing to
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do whatever. And I think that's that's another guy. He'll block,
he'll do anything you ask him to do, play on
special teams, all that stuff too, and I think that
really good finisher, maybe a guy you can use in
the red zone, short yardage, that sort of thing. But
also I think a good first and second down player
too that can probably help them move the ball of times.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
All right, Last, but not least, Nick bomb Gardner, where
give us the grade your grade with the red pen
for the Seahawks and where do you rank them amongst
all the other teams in the NFL the other thirty one?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I think this is a solid you know as
maybe even in a in some people's case. I think
that they address all the things that we talked about,
you know, that they needed to take care of here.
You've got to you got to I think the best
interior offensive lineman in the class. That's Abel. You were
able to come back and get extra you know, help
with Cable Dow and then Richmond there. We'll see if
they can do anything for you. I thought, really good receiver,
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you know, upgrade there or at least addition, and Horton
Martinez is going to be a player for them. I
love Robbie Outs and Thenimon Warr and Arroyo could be stars.
I mean, they really could turn into something really really special.
So Seattle had a great opportunity in this draft with
all these picks, and I thought that they took advantage
of it. I think it wasn't you know. They didn't
panic at any spot, They took their time, they were patient.
They even found a developmental backup quarterback in here. I
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think that they had one of the ten best you
know drafts that we saw this weekend, especially for a team.
We don't often see this, the teams that have all
these picks because they did. They had a lot. You know,
sometimes you look back and you're like, they didn't do it.
You know, what are they doing? They took too many
chances or they reached or whatever it is. And I
didn't see too much of that here. I thought it
was value, you know, just about everywhere across the board
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for the most part, and you know, a really sound,
sound approach. And I think that if you're a Seahawks fan,
you can see where they're going with it, right Like
they're trying to get tougher at the line of scrimmage,
they're trying to get tougher in the backfield there, and
they're also you know, having an eye on the future
as well. So really good draft. And I think that
one where it makes it easy for people to see
what the plan is, which is always what you want.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
That's it. Yeah, I thought John Schneider pretty much nailed that.
I'm with you on this one AA minus no doubt
about it, which you do every time you come on
with us. Nick. Always appreciate the time, and we're going
to have you on again sooner than later, because you're
much more than just a draft analyst. And I can
tell one from somebody who watches fourteen and a half
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of hours of college football every Saturday. So does Nick Bombgardner.
I can tell believe me, the real ones recognize real ones,
and you do, and you're not just some guy. Oh
I'm a draft to Oh well, tell me about Mason
Taylor's game versus Mississippi State. Oh, I never really watched
them play, but yeah, exactly, so you know you actually
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watch college football sets you apart from I don't know
ninety five percent of the draft analysts out there. So
thanks Nick. Always love talking to you, man. We'll do
it again soon, bro. Appreciate it, absolutely absolute any time
you got it, Nick bomb Gardner, athletic awesome. Christopher Kidd
one of the best guests that you booked. This guy
brings it and he's and he brings it big time.
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I you know me, man, and I did question. I
personally would have taken Donovan Jackson at Ohio State. Doesn't
mean Gray's abel won't be a boom and a great player.
That's just a personal preference. We'll track and how these
guys careers go from this moment forward. But all in all,
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I really there's not you know, and Milroe was a
wild card that that could end up being unbelievable for
this team. So all in all, John Schneider, kudos kudos
to you and your scouting department. I thought you guys
pretty much nailed it, and believe you me, I have
no problem criticizing Mark with the se The C stands
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can also look into a band called Mother Love Bone.
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Oh oh no, no, keep going though, keep going well.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
They're singer Andrew Wood passed away. They were first signed
from Seattle to PolyGram Records. Also, Andy was a roommate
with Chris Cornell. Temple of the Dog was a tribute
album to mister Woods.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That is, I did not know that. It just you
never ever ever know. Oh my god, that's pretty cool man. No,
I did not know that. So always great to hear
that sort of thing about uh. When Nirvana came out.
This is from the two o six. It looks like
it says his name is the or The When Nirvana
(23:43):
came out, I was fourteen. It changed everything. It was
a magical time here, Mariner's sonics, amazing music. I still
listen to all the music. Yeah, I do too, believe me,
I do too.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
This one is from the whole from the two o six,
from Rocking Jordan's shoes and Nike hoodies to Doc Martin's
and Flannels overnight.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's the impact. Hat on the haven't even changed. Love it,
love it bro Hey, Hey, just so you know I'm
not just a commercial loving Seattle grunge band guy. How
about the Fastbacks, how about the monomen Blood Circus, Mud Honey, Uh,
(24:27):
Screaming Trees, the Melvins, Coffin, break Green River, new Age
urban squirrel You hearn about new age urban squirrels, Girl Trouble, Gashoffer,
Pure Joy, the Accuse, sixty four Spiders, the Blackout, Skinyard,
Red Dress, you Men, Bundle of Hiss, and Malfunction. So
(24:47):
it's not just about the brand names for me, it's
about everything, Seattle everything. And Jonathan Poneman and Bruce Pavitt
co founded sub pop. By the way, that's not a
text that should mean just just kind of riffing there
all right, lived down the street from where Cobaine practiced
in high school and random frequently at parties. He was
(25:10):
a jackass from the two five three, well he was
in He was a great jackass. He was the goat
jackass because he was awesome. He's the godfather of alternative
grunge music. Rest in Peace, Rest and power. Kirk o
Bain Mother love Bone later became Pearl Jam. Is there truth?
I don't know about that one. I need to hop
(25:33):
on the googles. Maybe all I know is this. That's
from the two of six. Pearl Jam loved a former
player before your time. You wouldn't know who he was.
He was a point guard for the Atlanta Hawks named
Mooki Blaylock. I remember that lefty Okay, he's currently in
prison in the state of Georgia. But we don't need
to Norris. Oh yeah, no, no, not Moki, but Mooki
(25:56):
bl Lookie Blaylock was the truth. Though they named their
first album ten because of Mookie Blaylock, their greatest album
of all time, Pearl Jam was named after Mooky freaking Blaylock.
How about that? All right? Uh, let's see Mark, Your
(26:17):
opinion on Mel is kind of biased. Bro. Mel was
ranking Shooterer's draft placement off of talent. He didn't get
drafted earlier strictly because of non football related issues. That
has nothing to do at Mel's evaluation, because you know,
Shadur is not a five round talent. Let's be real. No,
apparently they thought it had to do with That's why
(26:38):
he wasn't drafted until the if he truly had the
talent and listen to Nick bomb Gardner, he was coached
his entire life by his dad, was. There were certain things,
weaknesses that were concealed. If he was worthy of being
drafted in the first four rounds, he would have been.
I'm not saying the dion and all the flash and
(26:59):
all that didn't I have something to do with it.
If he was worthy of being drafted in the first
four rounds, he would have been.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
This next one is from the two five to three. Oh,
I guess never mind, it's a little longer. I'll get
back to that. This next one is from the four
two five. I moved here in the summer of ninety one.
The day I left to move here, a friend of
mine gave me a cassette tape and said, check this out.
(27:27):
It was Alis and Chain's first album. A few weeks
after I got the Seattle, I was convinced I had
died and gone to music heaven.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So I note.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
A few months after I moved here, a coworker of
mine find out I really like sports and said I
can check out the sports radio station called KJR with
the fabulous sports Babe. Been a Hellowyer listener ever since.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Wow, I'll give you a story. One day, Seattle, we
worked together. I worked with the Fabulous sports Babe not
in the same show, thank god. But I worked at
the same station as the fabulous Sports Babe from two
thousand and eight through twenty ten, and let me tell you,
she was a piece of work. I'd like to say
something else other than work, but I'm not going to
(28:08):
get this station or myself in trouble with the FCC,
if you know what I mean. From Brian in the
two six most people from Seattle that were here did
not like Kirk Cobain. The best band that ever was
Mother Love Bone. Okay, Brian, all right, that's news to me.
I don't know why people in Seattle would not love
(28:29):
Kurt Cobain, but because everybody around the world did.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But all right, fair enough, last one from me from
the two five three lived in Westport in the mid eighties.
Turler two thousands first seen Ted, Ed and Fred at
the Whaler Restaurant and Lounge around eight eighty nine. Had
an idea back then they were going to be.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
A big hit excellent. From Keith and the two five
to three. It was all flannels, clove, cigarettes and sketchy
drugs in the nineties. From the two six I saw
Sound Garden at two Day Festival on the Kitsap Peninsula.
Awesome end quote. You already read that one. Two oh
(29:12):
six also said you should look up Nirvana at the
ok Hotel on YouTube. It's the first time they played
never Mind in public. I was there. It was insane. Wow.
I would have loved to been there for that one.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Let's see you do more like the insufferable sports babe.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
From Michael on the two five to three in lifetime
in real time, just texted in just an update on
Mookie Blaylock. He is out of prison after serving three
years in eight more on probation. Well good for Muki.
I love Mookie Blaylock better yet, how about it? No
see no, no, no no no, stop the music. Stop
the music. You start to get a too baby. No
(30:01):
thank you text line, thank you. That guy was wrong.
Pearl Jam's original band name was Mookie Blaylock. Mookie Blaylock
was the name of their band, and Jeff texted in
their band name was Mookie Blaylock before it became Pearl Jam.
(30:21):
How about that, Mama, Mama Mooky another person? Yes from
the three six, Oh pretty sure. Pearl Jam called themselves
Mookie Blaylock before they were Pearl Jam. Thank you. Yeah,
I'm not the biggest Pearl Jam fan, but that was
the name. So they changed their name to Pearl Jam.
(30:42):
But they called their first album ten because of Mooky
freaking Blaylock. That's right, thank you text line, Thank you
very much. Melvin's rule, everyone else do not From the
two h six, I uh another from the two six.
I am now fifty six. In the early nineties, I
(31:03):
was the perfect age to be the front man of
a grunge band. I had the long hair and could
sing my ass off. But in hubris and in vast
knowledge of a twenty one year old, I decided to
go in a different direction and barked on an R
and B career. It was cool for a minute, but no,
you never heard of us. And now I host karaoke.
We're all good singers going to die. Oh boy, that
(31:28):
is awesome. People love Nirvana. There was just people that
knew him personally, that thought Kurt was kind of a baby.
But everyone loved the band. Thank you for that. Thank
you for because if you didn't, if Seattle didn't love him,
I can tell you the whole rest of the world
had nothing but love for that man and that band.
And you know what I will say it produced two
(31:50):
Hall of Fame bands because then Dave Grohl invented what
did he invent? That's right, another Hall of Fame BA
and called the Foo Fighters, So great day on the
text line, it's awesome. Uh, they were called Mookie Blaylock.
And yes, how about Jorge Polanco's play all season long?
(32:12):
Can I say three letters so far? And I know
we've got one hundred and forty eight four, one hundred
and forty games to go. MVP MVP. He's been the
MVP for the Mariners. All right, we'll do cross talk
with the Mayor of Maple Valley next. Don't go anywhere
MJ in the midday ninety three to three kJ RFM.
(32:44):
He is the mayor of Maple Valley. Thanks again to
Nick bomb Gardner for coming on today. Don't get Christopher
Kidd does hard. He does a hard work and a
tough job. He's always posting after every hour's up. So
check out wherever you get podcasts, MJ.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
And iHeartRadio app. That would be the heart radio app.
That's where you want to go. I'm pre set right now,
ninety three to three KJRFM and the number one it's
so easy.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I've even been able to be.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
And in fact, I did it the other day because
I was driving around after I left the Virginia Mason
Athletics Center and I wanted to hear Chuck Powell, Charles Powell.
I want to hear his as the rest of the
draft took place. And so I did it in the
crystal clear world of the iHeartRadio App. In fact, I
actually had somebody today ask me that is involved in
sports and a local team here. I'll just leave it
(33:31):
at that, said, Hey, I'm trying to find the stuff
from this weekend on the website. Your website's like weird,
it's like spam, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
This and that it is. And I said, here's let
me give you a hint.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
I sent him a little link to the iHeart Radio
app because that's the kind of guy I am. And
he's like, whoa, dude, that's awesome. Perfect, It's all right there.
Everything every hour from the draft of Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
And there were a lot of hours that we were out.
There are a lot of hours out there, So you
go find that stuff there. I look to be a
part of it next year, and you guys did a
great job.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
All you did all. I mean I was there and
I was watching it as it took place in real time.
And everybody you Andrews Jackson, Christopher Kidd, Jess, Jess, Jesus,
She's all over the place. Softy, Christy gets sound. Christ
You get the sound. Chris, you got that sound. You
get the clip you got to you got the clip.
You get the sound. Very high maintenance, very high, Maten, Dick, Q, Chuck,
(34:22):
you know everybody. You guys killed it. I mean he
really did. I was just there to lend a helping hand.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
And we've come along, I'll say this, We've come a
long way when I first got here in two thousand
and six. So the two thousand and seven draft was
the first one I was a part of it. Jimarcus
Russell is what it was. Yeah, I remember that a.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
First round pick.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
He took Josh Wilson the second round and uh and
actually it got Brandon me being that that year I
think too. But anyway, that was back in the old
the old facility, the basement of the of the Northwest College,
and I did U and that was that was when
the draft was all day Saturday, like all day right,
and the first round took like three and a half
four out on those long and that was like for anyway,
I went out there. That's where I met Rang for
the first time.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Rob Rang.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
But we went out there and that was our coverage
that day. It was just me sitting there talking to
myself and how the hours, Oh my god, eight nine ten.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It was brutal. Yeah, it was like it was almost
I felt like I was getting initiated. Oh, I felt
like you getting hate. Yeah, I think that's what I
think was. I think gud I ran into Rang and
we ended.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Up doing stuff and that's when we started our relationship.
But you know, when they moved into the new building,
when they moved into the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, and
I think the first draft year that we were there
was twenty tenatu they moved into on nine, but they
didn't are eight oh nine and the first time we
were in the basement, long story upstairs, that whole setup
really for the last since day one of John Schneider
(35:39):
and Pete Carroll, but for sixteen years, we go all in, man,
we go all in, and it's you saw it. I mean,
we start at one in the afternoon before the draft starts.
We finished about nine forty or so, nine thirty nine
forty each of the night's Thursday Friday, started back up
again on Saturday morning at nine and I don't matter
(36:00):
how long you're on, as long as the stuff's quality. Well,
we've got we've got. You got Humillan, you got Rob,
Rob Rangos, every guy's picked. The only guy stumped him
in the last fifteen years is Michael Darrell last year.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
From D two. Oh my god, did they count well?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I mean that was a thing, like rang was distraught,
and it's like, dude, it's okay, it's one guy, Like
it's one guy. But you know, Hugh Rob having a home,
walking around and doing his thing being Mike, and and
then obviously we throw Corbin on and Greg Bell. Yeah,
we just I I hope the listeners if you didn't
listen to it, man, go back and listen some of
the hours because it's a ton of fun. I know,
you guys wrapped it up right, Chris on Saturday, you
(36:34):
and Anderson. So yeah, we we we go all in
and uh, you know what, that's the draft has become
a thing. Hey listen, So here we go. It's my
big thing. I got sent to cover draft, So I'm
mister flow draft. I love it, looking forward to being
a part of the coverage hopefully next year. Uh but uh,
but I thought you guys nailed.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
They tell me what it was like here in the
early nineties with the alternative cause sound Garden is getting
inducted into What was it like? Ian, I probably didn't
appreciate it, like because none of us knew. We didn't know.
It was just it's just the music that we had here.
You didn't realize the whole world is looking upon Seattle.
You started too, But it wasn't that. I mean, remember,
(37:12):
the world was a lot bigger than there wasn't the world.
We weren't social media, We didn't have any of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
There's no I mean, computers were just starting right, So
it was the world was different. I will say that
back then, if you went down to Pioneer Square on
a Friday or Saturday night, places like Doc Maynards and uh,
there was like about a six bar conglomerate down there
that if you bought a cover charge at one you
go to all of them and they had a ton
of music going on. Like we used to have a
to like Pinter Square used to have a ton of
(37:39):
live music going on when it was a lot nicer, safer,
and there's a lot more establishments open. And so I've
talked about this with friends before. We have no idea
who we saw play like. It could have been any
of these guys at the start, right and and but
we just you know, I grew up. You know, I
still think Heart's the best thing that's ever come out
of Seattle music wise, besides you know, and if I
(38:00):
don't know, if you count.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Pearl Jam, yeah you do. I mean they're counting from here.
One of I know, one of them from Chicago, Eddy Vedder, Yeah,
right at Chicago. Yeah, they were formed here.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah, you know, Michael went to uh went to Roosevelt
High School, the same place as our man Humillan.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
One thing that we drudged up. And I know that
like their first album, Pearl Jams is named after Mookie
Blaylock ten. Did you know they're blameaning Their band was
originally called Mookie Blaylock. Oh really, yeah, they probably couldn't
use that or what now. They just changed the Pearl Jam,
did they Yeah? Yeah? And by the way, probably was
because he served some time in prison. Yeah, so you
just got out recently? Oh okay, So.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, I mean, I mean you think you go back
to Jimmy Hendrix when you know the goat the Wilson
sisters with Ann and Nancy, I mean, and there's they
actually performed at the outdoor game, the hockey game last
year and were they're still great? Yeah, I mean, and
and just still belts it out. She's probably close to
seventy and she just belted it out. And Nancy's playing
(39:00):
the guitar and the freezing cold weather and you can
see her trying to keep and it was just awesome.
It was really cool to see them play. What do
we got coming up tonight? We had a busy show,
well Molly Wop at one twenty. Boys should be in
a good mood. Six straight series wins, I say, should
be never know, never know what those two we'll find out,
but we'll talk marriners with them at one twenty. And
then Saturday morning, at like nine oh five in the morning,
(39:21):
I realized that everybody might have been listening. I get
that Nick Sheridan, who's the offensive coordinator quarterbacks coach for Alabama,
we had him on Saturday morning. We'll put replay that
coming up at two.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
O'clock to Jalen Milro talking about Jaylen Milroe and actually
we'll ask him about the safety from South Carolina as well.
Oh I'm been worry he SCC, SCC real quick, because
I can get to talk to you about this, just
real quick. I want to hear your thoughts on it
when I'm driving home shoulder. Oh, we'll get to that. Okay,
not enough time to get to that. All right, Eat
for an ass coming up next Friday, our ninety three
(39:51):
to three KJRFMC them all
That's fun, like we have every day here fun on
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in the books and our now good friend Nick Baumgardner
has been with us from the beginning to the end
(00:22):
and after and he's with the Athletic you heard him
last week on this show. Nick. All in all, just
from a drama factor, so many different things with just
that factor alone, on a scale of one to ten,
where would you rank this draft?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, I mean, I don't know if it was the
most dramatic ever. I feel like we've had some where
there's a bunch of stuff going on, but in terms
of one player, I feel like that's a ten. This
stuff with Shador Sanders was kind of unlike anything I've
ever seen. And the weird part was if you kind
of juxtaposed that with this act that a lot of
the picks kind of went off the board, at least
in the first you know, fifty or sixty about the
(01:04):
way we thought they would. You know, he kind of
really stuck out even more so. It was a lot
It was definitely a lot. I think we all kind
of knew it wouldn't be boring with Shader, but yeah,
that was a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So why did it happen? I mean, we saw what happened,
but why was this just an indictment of the way
that he acted? I mean I read something, you know,
it's it's really long last hour basically talking about and
it was worse than the stable thing and just saying
that an NFL executive I'm paraphrasing here Nick that in
(01:38):
thirty three years he's never seen a pre Madonna. The
defensive players who met him that day wanted us to
draft him so they could knock him out in practice,
and for four straight rounds, thirty two teams said no,
thank you, and he gets drafted in the first in
the fifth round. Why did it take so long? And
is he just a backup quarterback? With this? It's just
(02:00):
an affront and just sort of like a mirage.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I think that that's the main driver of the whole thing,
and it is very complicated. There's a lot of layers
to it. Like you said, you know, he did not
interview well with many teams. I'd heard that, you know,
we'd heard that for quite a while. You know, the
Raiders were one that were linked to them, were to
him for a long time. And you know we'd heard
here that that that just wasn't gonna happen. Uh, the
interview did not go well, and I think that the
(02:27):
reason why that sort of stuff comes up. You know,
I'm not sure if every interview didn't go well or
if it was one of those things where, like you said,
like reputation precedes himself and you know the way that
I mean the family sort of carries itself in a
way like that they're acting in a show like it's
the reality show.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Like everything they're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Is its own, like steparate thing away from football. And
you know, I mean if you were a receiver or
a running back or something like that, you might be
able to get away with it. Defensive player maybe, but
if you're the quarterback, that's just not gonna work in
the NFL. And I you know, I wrote this probably
on Thursday or Friday. I guess it was Friday. You know,
(03:05):
this whole thing from Sugar Sanders and more so the
adults who were advising him, is a blueprint on what
not to do if you're a prospective quarterback. Trying to
get into trying to get drafted. I mean, you cannot
carry yourself with delusion the way that was going on here.
I mean, at the end of the day, this was
a backup quarterback with with upside. You know that can
(03:27):
turn into a functioning starter. But you know, we've said
this time and time again for months, Like if you
if you looked at last year's draft, he wouldn't have
gone in front of any of those guys in the
top six. And if you add in the fact that
he's got an attitude, you know, whether or not that's
him or whether or not he's projecting that because he
feels like his dad wants him to.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I mean, that's all interpersonal stuff that they that they have,
but that's that is what it is. And I think
that there's a lot of that part that goes on
with it. And then the other part too, is if
you're a coach that isn't super secure in his job,
do you want Deon Sanders calling you and bothering you?
Do you want this to be on first take every
single day? Do you want Donald Trump weighing it? I mean, like,
(04:07):
do you want to deal with that as the backup quarterback.
And the answer for most teams is no.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
We don't, right, and that knows it. And you know,
and you know what nick I said. You know, about
six weeks ago we first started talking about the draft,
maybe two months ago, and I first got on the
air here, nick I said, they don't want the circus,
they don't want the clowns show. They don't They just
don't want it. And can I also let me ask
you this, and I said this too. I also think
(04:31):
this was a Stone Colt Steve Austin double middle finger salute.
I don't think any thirty two NFL teams want Dion
Sanders to be a head coach anytime soon. Well, I
don't know about all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Maybe there might be some of that, But I think
that the other part too, that the layer in there.
If you're a coach on the hot seat and you're
saying to your owner, I'm not drafting a backup quarterback
so she could fire me and then hired Diana in
the year. Not doing that like that's not going to happen. No,
justified or not fair or not. That was a concern.
And you know, I think that at the end of
the day, the way I kind of looked at it,
(05:04):
and I you know, last year when we saw Caleb
Williams and Marvin Harrison and some of those guys not
work out and tests, I remember thinking to myself and
I said it that I was like, this is not
gonna be good for other people who think that they're
on this level and they're not, and like that's essentially
what's happened here. And the other factor, too, I think,
is that if you're if you're approaching this from the
way that they approached it, there's not one NFL team
(05:27):
among the thirty two that need more promotion, that need
more attention, that need to stand. Nobody needs that. That's
just not how the NFL works. Baseball, sure, hockey, maybe basketball,
maybe not this. And I think that that's ultimately why
he fell. And you know, it's a lot of things
at once, but it starts with he wasn't as good
as he purported to be. He hid from competition the
(05:48):
entire year and acted like that in meetings, and it's
not gonna work if that's how if that's how you're
gonna do things.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Nick bomb Gardner from the Athletic here on MJ in
the midday and just Moreover, the Cleveland Browns took six
picks before they selected Shadure Sanders, and they took Dylan
Gabriel fifty fifty slots before they took Shader Sanders, which
to me is almost like, okay, we'll just take them.
(06:15):
It's our last It was their last pick of the draft.
They didn't have another pick after the fifth round. We
don't expect them to be much, but we'll take them
and let it any and ironically enough to Nick, and
I said, this too is where I think he's the
second coming of Johnny Manziel. And who does he go
to the team who drafted Johnny Manziel, Right? I mean yeah,
(06:36):
I mean it's it's hard to say, you know, because
it's like I do. From a talent standpoint, he's better
than Dylan Gabriel. Yes he is, you know, if there's
a situation also at factor here, and I think this
also factored in.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
He has never, since high school through college, had to
compete for a job.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He's had his dad as.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
His offensive cordator in high school. He goes to college,
his dad's his coach, which he transfers to Colorado. His
dad says, you're the starter before you got there like,
it's just not normal. It's not a situation. His dad
had as much to do with it as anything else.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
By the way, I just tell you this, thank you
for coming. I never thought about that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You're absolutely yeah, that's a That is one of the
biggest parts of this whole thing. You know when kids
say in the and not just quarterbacks, right, this happens
to everybody. Will Johnson fell in the draft, a kid
from Michigan, right because he didn't work out, he didn't test,
didn't do anything. You can't do that all spring and
offseason unless you are you know, Travis Hunter, unless you
(07:36):
are that good. You have to compete because they want
to see every rep. Every situation they put you in
is supposed to be uncomfortable, and you're supposed to deal
with it. And if you refuse and want to do it,
you know, on your own terms and privately. Just this
is not the NBA. That's what I end up saying
more often than not, these teams are not going to
deal with it. This is the most competitive professional league
(07:57):
in the world, and that's that's the bottom line of
the whole thing. And he didn't act like a player
who wanted to compete. I think that's another factor too.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Wow, and do you project? Do you think? My thing
is this? I asked a friends this last night who
which will last longer? Maybe should do a poll question
on this, Bill Belichick at North Carolina or Chauduur Solders
in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know what, I al will say that one think
that I think at yeah, at Belichick, that's a whole
another mess for another day. I will say though, that
if shows up serious and wants to compete and play football,
there's nothing stop at him from you know, rising up
in that quarterback room. That's not exactly a murderer's road there. No.
You know, now next year, when they draft a better rookie,
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which I think that they might, that could be another conversation.
But you know, I could definitely see a scenario where
he comes in, plays well, plays hard, shows himself in camp,
and then you know, get some time. But you know,
we'll see how it goes. They got five quarterbacks in there, though,
for Crane out lot, I don't know how you're supposed
to develop all that, and one of.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Them is not playing next year and he's guaranteed getting
a two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed contract. So
there's that, all right. How about the Seahawks. Let's let's
talk about the hometown team here and look at Gray's abel.
You and I we talked about him, all right. So
let's go to the second round. They trade up to
thirty five, Nick emm and Warre safety South Carolina first
(09:17):
round talent, and then my guy from the U Elijah
Arroyo Titan, another first round type talent, and then we'll
get to Milroe. Let's start with em and Warry. Where
do you rank that pick for the Seahawks. Oh, that
was an a all the way. I mean, that was
one of the I mean em and Worry I thought
could have gone off the board in the teens. You know,
this is the best pound for pound pure athlete in
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the draft, regardless of position. You know, almost just freakish
everything he can do. I mean, he's still young and
still has some things to work on in terms of
you know, covered discipline and all that, because he's a
ball hawk who goes after the football, but he's kind
of a walking big play.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I mean, this was just a phenomenal draft pick by
a franchise that almost always finds a way to get
good safeties in there, and you know, he was one
of the He was the one guy that I really
looked at on day two and I was like, how
is he still here? That that did surprise me that
he fell and for them to go to get that
done was terrific. Also a royal, like you said, I
mean another guy who I think can do more than
just run the scene. I think he's going to be
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a competitive blocker. I think he can do other things
and move around for you too. So you know, the
Seahawks had a great draft and those top three guys
were terrific.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Jalen Milroe to see, I mean a guy who threw
five more touchdown passes than you or me last year,
Nicky but freak athlete Lamar Jackson, athleticism and strong as
an ox. Do you see him potentially being a future
starter or maybe just let's just say Seattle Swiss army
(10:42):
knife like Taysom Hill.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, I mean I think that the Swiss army knife
is probably your worst case scenario. And I think that
that was something that was underlooked or undervalue by people,
is that you can get something out of Jalen if
the quarterback thing doesn't click or whatever it is. But
the beauty of this pick, and I thought it was
a great fit, is you don't have to immediately just
you know them in there and rush him or anything
like that. I mean, you've got a starter who's under contract.
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He's an unquestioned starter. You can let Milroe learn. You
can use him in the Taysom Hill type roles right
now while he learns, and you know, there's not gonna
be a ton of pressure on him to get around.
And I think if you can find a way, you know,
to get him to turn a corner, you know, which
is easier something done in the NFL. But if you
can do that, he could be a terrific addition and
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a terrific starter at some point down the road. I mean,
a lot of people didn't think Jalen Jalen Hurts could
do this, and he played better in college obviously than
Milroe did, but a lot of people didn't still didn't
think that this was possible for Hurts, and he's phenomenal,
so it's not out of the realm of possibility that
Milrow ends up being a nice part. I thought that
was a really good pick, and it's a really good fit.
It's exactly the kind of place that I felt like
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he needed to go to.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
All Right, we're gonna come back to the ones. We're
gonna jump ahead to. Obviously the biggest Achilles heel of
the Seahawks for ten to fifteen years, the O line.
Six round Bryce Cable do guard Kansas and then seven
round Mason Richmond tackle Iowa grade. Those guys in could
they make the team? I mean it's you know, six
and seven round picks don't have a strong likelihood. Could
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they make this team?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I think Cable new could.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, if you were looking at a guy that
it depends on, you know, what they want him to
do college tackle, he could go inside and play guard.
I think he did play guard at the Shrine Bowl.
Look pretty good. He's got good length, He's a really
good athlete, really good mover. So I think he's a
guy that, you know, for the sixth round, which is
you're sort of just throwing a dart at that point,
you know, I think he's a guy especially in your
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situation in Seattle where it's like you're still trying to
find your way through everything there. He was a guy
that I think was a late sort of he wasn't
as a late bloomer. I guess we'd call it right,
like a guy that figured it out as he went along.
And I think usually with guys like that, sometimes you
know their best football is still in the front of him.
So I think that he has a chance for sure.
Even though they have brought in, you know, a lot
of guys over the last few years, and then you
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know Richmond, you know, you never know what the Iowa guys,
I think that that's another one that you know. So
I don't know if he's gonna have to also move
inside and play guard. I mean he was a tackle,
but like the same thing. I mean, good athlete, he
can thump, He's very technically sound. He played at Iowa,
So you know, those guys always end up having a chance.
So I think those are two solid, you know, dart
throws if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
At the end of the draft, Riley Mills, defensive end
Notre Dame in the fifth round. Do you see him?
I mean, this is a top five defense even before
this draft. You add em and Warri and now you
put Riley Mills, who was the second defensive player. Actually
they only had two defensive players. Take him the entire draft,
So it was em and Worry and Mills. Can Mills
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make the team at from a fifth round out of
Notre Dame? Does he have the size and the speed
and athleticism to make this team?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think he does. I think he has the size
and dependent he comes back off of the knee, and
there's some versatility in there with him too. But the
main thing with him is he plays really, really hard.
I mean, he's a really dedicated football player. Everybody there
at Notre Dame loved him. I think it was a
captain last year and a guy that when he went
down even in the in the playoff there you could
see the look on people's faces about how much it
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meant to him, you know, and how much of a
bummer that was for him too. But this is also
a very strong football player. I think he was on
Bruce Feldman's Freaks list at one point or another.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
In his career.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Benches near five hundred pounds or four to fifty anyway,
something like that. You know, really really, you know, a
beast kind of guy in the weight room more or less.
So I think that he's a guy that will give
himself a chance with his effort, his sort of dedication
and the ability to out work people. And I think
that that often, you know, Shines shows up well, you know,
for young people on a team that is still looking
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for anybody to kind of come in and fill any
kind of role, which I think is what you'll get
from him. Just anything you want me to do, I'll
do it. And I don't think there'll be any issues there.
So I think he had a chance for sure. That's
a nice pick. Also in the Seahawks, again, they had
a nice draft. Everybody more or less that they took
I think was a solid player.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's good. I'm going to ask you about the two receivers.
One in the fifth round, Tory Horton out of Colorado State,
and then in the seventh round Ricky White, the third
out of UNLV.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah. I really like Tory Horton. I thought that that
was a really good value. I think Tory Horton was
a borderline top one hundred guy in this class. You know.
I thought I had him on Day two somewhere four
four forty bigger guy. He's a legit X if he
need him to be an ex made a lot of
plays at Colorado State for several years and I think
is also a guy too that you know, had a
(15:20):
chance to leave, had a chance to make more money elsewhere,
and didn't came back. He played through an injury and
all that stuff, which we'll you know, we'll see how
he comes back from that too, but also a punk returner,
play on special teams, and you know, a really good
yards after the Catchdowp. I really think he could be
a fine for them. And Ricky White. I liked that flyer.
You know, he's a guy who's small, you know, not
(15:41):
as fast as you would like for a guy that size,
but also a guy that you know, found a way
to get open really consistently. Just a very very good
route runner. That a guy that if nothing else, I
feel like he probably ends up on the practice squad
and might be somebody who pushes them in camp, Like
he'll be a guy in the spring here when they
bring him in that that'll look great. I mean, and
when they've get shorts on and he's running, you know,
(16:03):
you know, running against guys and just kind of one
on one so look terrific in those and bother people
enough to where I think he'll probably end up having
a chance to do something. But at least if something
else he stays with your organization, probably, I would imagine,
because I think he's a guy that is a little
bit of a gnat for some of those defensive backs.
He's really hard to cover him. Nice player.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
You know, in Clinton Kobiac's outside zone running scheme, they
want to run the ball. They draft Robbie Outs to
fall back out of Alabama. And you took about value
Nick getting Damien Martinez from Miami in the seventh round
did not have a strong combine slow forty, But I mean,
you talk about value this dude, and I've seen I
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saw him at Oregon State and certainly saw him as
Elijah Arroyos teammate. This past season, he had some Bo
Jackson super techmobile like runs where defenders were bouncing off him.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So those two guys, do you see them being able
to make the active fifty three man roster.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, I think. I think what we're seeing here is
a commitment to extra toughness, and you're seeing that from
a lot of teams across the league right now. But
you know, without I mean, my god, that guy was
a lot of fun. I mean the mustache and everything
else alone next to worth, the pick there. But he
talk about a guy who loves football, like that guy
lives the block. He doesn't care if he ever touches
the ball, like that's his whole, you know, an extra
offensive lineman with wheels out there. So I love picks
(17:21):
like that. I love when teams take chances on guys
like that because I think it always ends up. You know,
I also play every special team, every you know, whatever
that you ask him to do to a maximum effort.
You know, him and c. J. Deprie, the other kid
at Alabama who I liked a lot, were two of
the hardest workers that you'll find that'll do just about
anything that you want. And then the thing with Martinez,
I think that a lot of teams the reason why
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he probably fell because I agree I thought he was
a you know, close to the top one fifty somewhere
in there probably. But the reason why I think he
fell is a lot of people see him as a
you know, just a one speed guy who's just in
between the tackles and that's maybe all he can do.
But I I think that number one, he's very good
at that. So, like I mean, if you're at seeing
a guy to come in here and take some of
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those the dirty work runs or the you know, the
heavy runs that you don't want to give to a
smaller back. He can absolutely do that. And I think
he's better in some of the other areas too. If
you want to stretch and do some zone stuff with
him too, I think he can handle it, because, like
you said, he's really really hard to tackle. And it's
not just it's not one thing. He's not a phenomenal,
overwhelming athlete or whatever, but he's also not a bad
athlete two hundred and twenty pounds and is willing to
(18:24):
do whatever. And I think that's that's another guy. He'll block,
he'll do anything you ask him to do, play on
special teams, all that stuff too, and I think that
really good finisher, maybe a guy you can use in
the red zone, short yardage, that sort of thing. But
also I think a good first and second down player
too that can probably help them move the ball of times.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
All right, Last, but not least, Nick bomb Gardner, where
give us the grade your grade with the red pen
for the Seahawks and where do you rank them amongst
all the other teams in the NFL the other thirty one?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I think this is a solid you know as
maybe even in a in some people's case. I think
that they address all the things that we talked about,
you know, that they needed to take care of here.
You've got to you got to I think the best
interior offensive lineman in the class. That's Abel. You were
able to come back and get extra you know, help
with Cable Dow and then Richmond there. We'll see if
they can do anything for you. I thought, really good receiver,
(19:15):
you know, upgrade there or at least addition, and Horton
Martinez is going to be a player for them. I
love Robbie Outs and Thenimon Warr and Arroyo could be stars.
I mean, they really could turn into something really really special.
So Seattle had a great opportunity in this draft with
all these picks, and I thought that they took advantage
of it. I think it wasn't you know. They didn't
panic at any spot, They took their time, they were patient.
They even found a developmental backup quarterback in here. I
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think that they had one of the ten best you
know drafts that we saw this weekend, especially for a team.
We don't often see this, the teams that have all
these picks because they did. They had a lot. You know,
sometimes you look back and you're like, they didn't do it.
You know, what are they doing? They took too many
chances or they reached or whatever it is. And I
didn't see too much of that here. I thought it
was value, you know, just about everywhere across the board
(19:57):
for the most part, and you know, a really sound,
sound approach. And I think that if you're a Seahawks fan,
you can see where they're going with it, right Like
they're trying to get tougher at the line of scrimmage,
they're trying to get tougher in the backfield there, and
they're also you know, having an eye on the future
as well. So really good draft. And I think that
one where it makes it easy for people to see
what the plan is, which is always what you want.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
That's it. Yeah, I thought John Schneider pretty much nailed that.
I'm with you on this one AA minus no doubt
about it, which you do every time you come on
with us. Nick. Always appreciate the time, and we're going
to have you on again sooner than later, because you're
much more than just a draft analyst. And I can
tell one from somebody who watches fourteen and a half
(20:36):
of hours of college football every Saturday. So does Nick Bombgardner.
I can tell believe me, the real ones recognize real ones,
and you do, and you're not just some guy. Oh
I'm a draft to Oh well, tell me about Mason
Taylor's game versus Mississippi State. Oh, I never really watched
them play, but yeah, exactly, so you know you actually
(20:58):
watch college football sets you apart from I don't know
ninety five percent of the draft analysts out there. So
thanks Nick. Always love talking to you, man. We'll do
it again soon, bro. Appreciate it, absolutely absolute any time
you got it, Nick bomb Gardner, athletic awesome. Christopher Kidd
one of the best guests that you booked. This guy
brings it and he's and he brings it big time.
(21:19):
I you know me, man, and I did question. I
personally would have taken Donovan Jackson at Ohio State. Doesn't
mean Gray's abel won't be a boom and a great player.
That's just a personal preference. We'll track and how these
guys careers go from this moment forward. But all in all,
(21:40):
I really there's not you know, and Milroe was a
wild card that that could end up being unbelievable for
this team. So all in all, John Schneider, kudos kudos
to you and your scouting department. I thought you guys
pretty much nailed it, and believe you me, I have
no problem criticizing Mark with the se The C stands
for criticize. So we'll come back next with the what
(22:03):
do you say text of the Day four nine four
five one? Please tell me take me back to the
early to mid nineties on what the Seattle grun sound
was like. Here, give me your anecdotal stories. I want
them all. I hear for them all injected into my veins.
Next on MJ and the Midday ninety three to three
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KJRTHM make us your.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Number one pre set in your car, And on the
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Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
All right, what do you say? What do you say?
Text of the Day four nine, four or five one?
All right, Well, if there is ever any doubt about MJ,
the fact that he's a Sound Garden fan have cleared
those up. Welcome to Seattle from the two o six.
Thank you very much much, MJ two o six. You
can also look into a band called Mother Love Bone.
(23:05):
Oh oh no, no, keep going though, keep going well.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
They're singer Andrew Wood passed away. They were first signed
from Seattle to PolyGram Records. Also, Andy was a roommate
with Chris Cornell. Temple of the Dog was a tribute
album to mister Woods.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That is, I did not know that. It just you
never ever ever know. Oh my god, that's pretty cool man. No,
I did not know that. So always great to hear
that sort of thing about uh. When Nirvana came out.
This is from the two o six. It looks like
it says his name is the or The When Nirvana
(23:43):
came out, I was fourteen. It changed everything. It was
a magical time here, Mariner's sonics, amazing music. I still
listen to all the music. Yeah, I do too, believe me,
I do too.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
This one is from the whole from the two o six,
from Rocking Jordan's shoes and Nike hoodies to Doc Martin's
and Flannels overnight.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's the impact. Hat on the haven't even changed. Love it,
love it bro Hey, Hey, just so you know I'm
not just a commercial loving Seattle grunge band guy. How
about the Fastbacks, how about the monomen Blood Circus, Mud Honey, Uh,
(24:27):
Screaming Trees, the Melvins, Coffin, break Green River, new Age
urban squirrel You hearn about new age urban squirrels, Girl Trouble, Gashoffer,
Pure Joy, the Accuse, sixty four Spiders, the Blackout, Skinyard,
Red Dress, you Men, Bundle of Hiss, and Malfunction. So
(24:47):
it's not just about the brand names for me, it's
about everything, Seattle everything. And Jonathan Poneman and Bruce Pavitt
co founded sub pop. By the way, that's not a
text that should mean just just kind of riffing there
all right, lived down the street from where Cobaine practiced
in high school and random frequently at parties. He was
(25:10):
a jackass from the two five three, well he was
in He was a great jackass. He was the goat
jackass because he was awesome. He's the godfather of alternative
grunge music. Rest in Peace, Rest and power. Kirk o
Bain Mother love Bone later became Pearl Jam. Is there truth?
I don't know about that one. I need to hop
(25:33):
on the googles. Maybe all I know is this. That's
from the two of six. Pearl Jam loved a former
player before your time. You wouldn't know who he was.
He was a point guard for the Atlanta Hawks named
Mooki Blaylock. I remember that lefty Okay, he's currently in
prison in the state of Georgia. But we don't need
to Norris. Oh yeah, no, no, not Moki, but Mooki
(25:56):
bl Lookie Blaylock was the truth. Though they named their
first album ten because of Mookie Blaylock, their greatest album
of all time, Pearl Jam was named after Mooky freaking Blaylock.
How about that? All right? Uh, let's see Mark, Your
(26:17):
opinion on Mel is kind of biased. Bro. Mel was
ranking Shooterer's draft placement off of talent. He didn't get
drafted earlier strictly because of non football related issues. That
has nothing to do at Mel's evaluation, because you know,
Shadur is not a five round talent. Let's be real. No,
apparently they thought it had to do with That's why
(26:38):
he wasn't drafted until the if he truly had the
talent and listen to Nick bomb Gardner, he was coached
his entire life by his dad, was. There were certain things,
weaknesses that were concealed. If he was worthy of being
drafted in the first four rounds, he would have been.
I'm not saying the dion and all the flash and
(26:59):
all that didn't I have something to do with it.
If he was worthy of being drafted in the first
four rounds, he would have been.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
This next one is from the two five to three. Oh,
I guess never mind, it's a little longer. I'll get
back to that. This next one is from the four
two five. I moved here in the summer of ninety one.
The day I left to move here, a friend of
mine gave me a cassette tape and said, check this out.
(27:27):
It was Alis and Chain's first album. A few weeks
after I got the Seattle, I was convinced I had
died and gone to music heaven.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So I note.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
A few months after I moved here, a coworker of
mine find out I really like sports and said I
can check out the sports radio station called KJR with
the fabulous sports Babe. Been a Hellowyer listener ever since.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Wow, I'll give you a story. One day, Seattle, we
worked together. I worked with the Fabulous sports Babe not
in the same show, thank god. But I worked at
the same station as the fabulous Sports Babe from two
thousand and eight through twenty ten, and let me tell you,
she was a piece of work. I'd like to say
something else other than work, but I'm not going to
(28:08):
get this station or myself in trouble with the FCC,
if you know what I mean. From Brian in the
two six most people from Seattle that were here did
not like Kirk Cobain. The best band that ever was
Mother Love Bone. Okay, Brian, all right, that's news to me.
I don't know why people in Seattle would not love
(28:29):
Kurt Cobain, but because everybody around the world did.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But all right, fair enough, last one from me from
the two five three lived in Westport in the mid eighties.
Turler two thousands first seen Ted, Ed and Fred at
the Whaler Restaurant and Lounge around eight eighty nine. Had
an idea back then they were going to be.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
A big hit excellent. From Keith and the two five
to three. It was all flannels, clove, cigarettes and sketchy
drugs in the nineties. From the two six I saw
Sound Garden at two Day Festival on the Kitsap Peninsula.
Awesome end quote. You already read that one. Two oh
(29:12):
six also said you should look up Nirvana at the
ok Hotel on YouTube. It's the first time they played
never Mind in public. I was there. It was insane. Wow.
I would have loved to been there for that one.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Let's see you do more like the insufferable sports babe.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
From Michael on the two five to three in lifetime
in real time, just texted in just an update on
Mookie Blaylock. He is out of prison after serving three
years in eight more on probation. Well good for Muki.
I love Mookie Blaylock better yet, how about it? No
see no, no, no no no, stop the music. Stop
the music. You start to get a too baby. No
(30:01):
thank you text line, thank you. That guy was wrong.
Pearl Jam's original band name was Mookie Blaylock. Mookie Blaylock
was the name of their band, and Jeff texted in
their band name was Mookie Blaylock before it became Pearl Jam.
(30:21):
How about that, Mama, Mama Mooky another person? Yes from
the three six, Oh pretty sure. Pearl Jam called themselves
Mookie Blaylock before they were Pearl Jam. Thank you. Yeah,
I'm not the biggest Pearl Jam fan, but that was
the name. So they changed their name to Pearl Jam.
(30:42):
But they called their first album ten because of Mooky
freaking Blaylock. That's right, thank you text line, Thank you
very much. Melvin's rule, everyone else do not From the
two h six, I uh another from the two six.
I am now fifty six. In the early nineties, I
(31:03):
was the perfect age to be the front man of
a grunge band. I had the long hair and could
sing my ass off. But in hubris and in vast
knowledge of a twenty one year old, I decided to
go in a different direction and barked on an R
and B career. It was cool for a minute, but no,
you never heard of us. And now I host karaoke.
We're all good singers going to die. Oh boy, that
(31:28):
is awesome. People love Nirvana. There was just people that
knew him personally, that thought Kurt was kind of a baby.
But everyone loved the band. Thank you for that. Thank
you for because if you didn't, if Seattle didn't love him,
I can tell you the whole rest of the world
had nothing but love for that man and that band.
And you know what I will say it produced two
(31:50):
Hall of Fame bands because then Dave Grohl invented what
did he invent? That's right, another Hall of Fame BA
and called the Foo Fighters, So great day on the
text line, it's awesome. Uh, they were called Mookie Blaylock.
And yes, how about Jorge Polanco's play all season long?
(32:12):
Can I say three letters so far? And I know
we've got one hundred and forty eight four, one hundred
and forty games to go. MVP MVP. He's been the
MVP for the Mariners. All right, we'll do cross talk
with the Mayor of Maple Valley next. Don't go anywhere
MJ in the midday ninety three to three kJ RFM.
(32:44):
He is the mayor of Maple Valley. Thanks again to
Nick bomb Gardner for coming on today. Don't get Christopher
Kidd does hard. He does a hard work and a
tough job. He's always posting after every hour's up. So
check out wherever you get podcasts, MJ.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
And iHeartRadio app. That would be the heart radio app.
That's where you want to go. I'm pre set right now,
ninety three to three KJRFM and the number one it's
so easy.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I've even been able to be.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
And in fact, I did it the other day because
I was driving around after I left the Virginia Mason
Athletics Center and I wanted to hear Chuck Powell, Charles Powell.
I want to hear his as the rest of the
draft took place. And so I did it in the
crystal clear world of the iHeartRadio App. In fact, I
actually had somebody today ask me that is involved in
sports and a local team here. I'll just leave it
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at that, said, Hey, I'm trying to find the stuff
from this weekend on the website. Your website's like weird,
it's like spam, it's.
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This and that it is. And I said, here's let
me give you a hint.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
I sent him a little link to the iHeart Radio
app because that's the kind of guy I am. And
he's like, whoa, dude, that's awesome. Perfect, It's all right there.
Everything every hour from the draft of Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
And there were a lot of hours that we were out.
There are a lot of hours out there, So you
go find that stuff there. I look to be a
part of it next year, and you guys did a
great job.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
All you did all. I mean I was there and
I was watching it as it took place in real time.
And everybody you Andrews Jackson, Christopher Kidd, Jess, Jess, Jesus,
She's all over the place. Softy, Christy gets sound. Christ
You get the sound. Chris, you got that sound. You
get the clip you got to you got the clip.
You get the sound. Very high maintenance, very high, Maten, Dick, Q, Chuck,
(34:22):
you know everybody. You guys killed it. I mean he
really did. I was just there to lend a helping hand.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
And we've come along, I'll say this, We've come a
long way when I first got here in two thousand
and six. So the two thousand and seven draft was
the first one I was a part of it. Jimarcus
Russell is what it was. Yeah, I remember that a.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
First round pick.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
He took Josh Wilson the second round and uh and
actually it got Brandon me being that that year I
think too. But anyway, that was back in the old
the old facility, the basement of the of the Northwest College,
and I did U and that was that was when
the draft was all day Saturday, like all day right,
and the first round took like three and a half
four out on those long and that was like for anyway,
I went out there. That's where I met Rang for
the first time.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Rob Rang.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
But we went out there and that was our coverage
that day. It was just me sitting there talking to
myself and how the hours, Oh my god, eight nine ten.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It was brutal. Yeah, it was like it was almost
I felt like I was getting initiated. Oh, I felt
like you getting hate. Yeah, I think that's what I
think was. I think gud I ran into Rang and
we ended.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Up doing stuff and that's when we started our relationship.
But you know, when they moved into the new building,
when they moved into the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, and
I think the first draft year that we were there
was twenty tenatu they moved into on nine, but they
didn't are eight oh nine and the first time we
were in the basement, long story upstairs, that whole setup
really for the last since day one of John Schneider
(35:39):
and Pete Carroll, but for sixteen years, we go all in, man,
we go all in, and it's you saw it. I mean,
we start at one in the afternoon before the draft starts.
We finished about nine forty or so, nine thirty nine
forty each of the night's Thursday Friday, started back up
again on Saturday morning at nine and I don't matter
(36:00):
how long you're on, as long as the stuff's quality. Well,
we've got we've got. You got Humillan, you got Rob,
Rob Rangos, every guy's picked. The only guy stumped him
in the last fifteen years is Michael Darrell last year.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
From D two. Oh my god, did they count well?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I mean that was a thing, like rang was distraught,
and it's like, dude, it's okay, it's one guy, Like
it's one guy. But you know, Hugh Rob having a home,
walking around and doing his thing being Mike, and and
then obviously we throw Corbin on and Greg Bell. Yeah,
we just I I hope the listeners if you didn't
listen to it, man, go back and listen some of
the hours because it's a ton of fun. I know,
you guys wrapped it up right, Chris on Saturday, you
(36:34):
and Anderson. So yeah, we we we go all in
and uh, you know what, that's the draft has become
a thing. Hey listen, So here we go. It's my
big thing. I got sent to cover draft, So I'm
mister flow draft. I love it, looking forward to being
a part of the coverage hopefully next year. Uh but uh,
but I thought you guys nailed.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
They tell me what it was like here in the
early nineties with the alternative cause sound Garden is getting
inducted into What was it like? Ian, I probably didn't
appreciate it, like because none of us knew. We didn't know.
It was just it's just the music that we had here.
You didn't realize the whole world is looking upon Seattle.
You started too, But it wasn't that. I mean, remember,
(37:12):
the world was a lot bigger than there wasn't the world.
We weren't social media, We didn't have any of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
There's no I mean, computers were just starting right, So
it was the world was different. I will say that
back then, if you went down to Pioneer Square on
a Friday or Saturday night, places like Doc Maynards and uh,
there was like about a six bar conglomerate down there
that if you bought a cover charge at one you
go to all of them and they had a ton
of music going on. Like we used to have a
to like Pinter Square used to have a ton of
(37:39):
live music going on when it was a lot nicer, safer,
and there's a lot more establishments open. And so I've
talked about this with friends before. We have no idea
who we saw play like. It could have been any
of these guys at the start, right and and but
we just you know, I grew up. You know, I
still think Heart's the best thing that's ever come out
of Seattle music wise, besides you know, and if I
(38:00):
don't know, if you count.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Pearl Jam, yeah you do. I mean they're counting from here.
One of I know, one of them from Chicago, Eddy Vedder, Yeah,
right at Chicago. Yeah, they were formed here.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah, you know, Michael went to uh went to Roosevelt
High School, the same place as our man Humillan.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
One thing that we drudged up. And I know that
like their first album, Pearl Jams is named after Mookie
Blaylock ten. Did you know they're blameaning Their band was
originally called Mookie Blaylock. Oh really, yeah, they probably couldn't
use that or what now. They just changed the Pearl Jam,
did they Yeah? Yeah? And by the way, probably was
because he served some time in prison. Yeah, so you
just got out recently? Oh okay, So.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, I mean, I mean you think you go back
to Jimmy Hendrix when you know the goat the Wilson
sisters with Ann and Nancy, I mean, and there's they
actually performed at the outdoor game, the hockey game last
year and were they're still great? Yeah, I mean, and
and just still belts it out. She's probably close to
seventy and she just belted it out. And Nancy's playing
(39:00):
the guitar and the freezing cold weather and you can
see her trying to keep and it was just awesome.
It was really cool to see them play. What do
we got coming up tonight? We had a busy show,
well Molly Wop at one twenty. Boys should be in
a good mood. Six straight series wins, I say, should
be never know, never know what those two we'll find out,
but we'll talk marriners with them at one twenty. And
then Saturday morning, at like nine oh five in the morning,
(39:21):
I realized that everybody might have been listening. I get
that Nick Sheridan, who's the offensive coordinator quarterbacks coach for Alabama,
we had him on Saturday morning. We'll put replay that
coming up at two.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
O'clock to Jalen Milro talking about Jaylen Milroe and actually
we'll ask him about the safety from South Carolina as well.
Oh I'm been worry he SCC, SCC real quick, because
I can get to talk to you about this, just
real quick. I want to hear your thoughts on it
when I'm driving home shoulder. Oh, we'll get to that. Okay,
not enough time to get to that. All right, Eat
for an ass coming up next Friday, our ninety three
(39:51):
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