May 21, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of the things that they are considering right now,
and you know I feel about flag football and the
Olympics not a fan, but one of the things they're
considering right now is almost pretty much negating winning your division.
So you win your division, you go to the playoffs.
That will not change. But so this past season, the
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Lions were the one seed at fifteen and two, the
Eagles were the two seed at fourteen and three. Those
would not change. That would stay the same. Now here's
where the changes would occur. Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a
three seed at ten and seven. The Rams were the
four seed at ten and seven, and then it was
the Vikings who had a fourteen and three record, They
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were the five seed. The Commanders, who had a twelve
and five record, were the six seed, and the Packers
had eleven six record with a seven seed. Where would
change if the new proposal goes through lines and Eagles
would stay one and two, But then despite not winning
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their division. Under the new proposal, the Minnesota Vikings would
be the three seed in the NFC and the Washington
Commanders will be the four seed in the NFC, dropping
the Bucks to the sixth seed and the Rams to
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the seventh seed. So despite the fact that the Rams
won their division, they'd be the seventh seed because they
had a worse record than the Vikings and Commanders. I know,
I know this is very polarizing, but this is something
I am all in on. I know it would have
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robbed Seattle of one of its greatest moments in sports history,
the beast Quake run against the New Orleans Saints in
twenty ten. Hawks for seven to nine that season they
won their division, they should not have been hosting a
playoff game. They would not have been hosting a playoff
game in this new proposed system, they would not have
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So there's some things that I can understand you not
like it about. So if you win your division, you're
still going to playoffs, but you're just not guaranteed to
host a home playoff game. And I have to tell
you I am all for this. I love this eight
days a week and ten times on Sunday. Give it
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to me, Give everything to me on this. I want
this in the worst way and I hope it goes through.
But I can understand a lot of people not liking it.
For me, I don't want to reward mediocrity and futility,
and it's one. I mean the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the
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year after they won the Super Bowl, they had a
losing record. They won their division, and they hosted two playoff.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Games that year, two of them.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I believe they beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the first game,
and then they lost to the La Rams in the
divisional round, both at home, though both at home. So
I definitely that is not something like that I would
have loved at all.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I would not have liked that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It would to me, that would have been something that no,
not a fan, or I might have been off by.
I think the next year, in twenty twenty two, they
had the Bucks had a losing record. That's what it was.
That's what it was. It wasn't twenty twenty one. I
believe it was twenty twenty two that they Yeah, I'm
pretty sure in that time. But anyway, that to me
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is something I would be all in on and I
would love the NFL to do. I would love the
NFL to do that for me. Yeah, you know, I mean,
I get it. It's not forever. They were eight and
nine that year. So the twenty twenty two season, they
were eight and nine, and they they hosted the Dallas
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Cowboys and that was Tom Brady's final ever game.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They got killed at home. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I go back and forth on this because I agree
with what you're saying about not wanting to reward mediocrity.
It wouldn't change the teams that get in the NFL,
just who hosts the home playoff games. So that's something.
But I do also think it kind of it. One
of the biggest parts of the NFL that I really
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enjoy is the divisional rivalries, and it would not negate those,
but it would put less emphasis on winning your division.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh absolutely so. Oh, it completely does.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And you could still like so the Seahawks, the seven
to nine year that won their division in twenty ten,
they would have still gone to the playoffs. They just
wouldn't have hosted that game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But I do think there's something to winning your division,
and I don't necessarily mind a team that maybe maybe
you play in a tougher division. You're playing those those
guys twice more than anyone else, So record doesn't necessarily
mean everything. We've seen teams with better records lose all
the time, especially in the NFL, which is the league
of parody, and I don't. The biggest thing for me
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is I don't want to take away something from a
division rivalry because then those games would mean less. They
would basically just see another another game, and so I
don't want that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But I think the rivalry was still there.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But I see what you're saying is that, you know,
I just think it's unfair when you talk about unbalanced
where the Houston Texans, they get the trash Jaguars, the
absolute you know, horrible colts in the garbage Titans. That's
basically almost a guaranteed five or six wins a year.
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And you win your division, well, you know you won
your division, fine, but should you be hosting over maybe
a Denver Broncos or LA Chargers team that won twelve
or thirteen games and then a better record than you
and you played in a week division. So you're right though, Oh,
it definitely would take away I think the rivalries will
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never go away. They would never go away ever, but
it would certainly it would put it would basically deemphasize
winning the division. Yeah, you just need but you still
have to win and you still have to have one
of the best records in the NFC. So you know,
and here's the thing, not necessarily with DFHSI because if
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you win the division, you automatically get in the playoffs, right,
that doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's about hosting though, So I think I still want
to have, like I guess said, I go back and forth,
I still would like to have the teams that win
their division be the higher seeds.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
For me, Okay, no, I mean I it is this
is one that to me, this is more than the
Tush push or anything else. This is actually the most
polarizing because this affects every team well.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And a good example is we saw the Rams this
past year. They won their division, right, but no one
really took them seriously going into the playoffs. I think
people were like, oh, like you look at Detroit and
Minnesota and Green Bay. It's it's it's a shame that
two of those teams were wildcard teams, and then the
Rams who won their division, you know, a week NFC
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West year, they kind of get overlooked, and then the
Rams are actually the team that most people say was
the real super Bowl against the Philadelphia It was so
it there's a lot of times a record doesn't really
show everything.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, no, it does not. No record certainly doesn't. And
but and that's what I'm saying when it comes to
playing in the AFC South or the NFC South. I mean,
look at if you're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Falcons
have been trash. You got the Panthers who have been
bottom of the basement, and then you have the Saints
who they're not what they were when Drew Brees was
there and Derek Carr just retired. So they're going to
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be starting a new with a brand new quarterback, whether
it be Tyler Shuck, Spencer Rattler, Jake Hayner. So I
just don't want to reward teams with bad and bad divisions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
That's my whole thing that like you're rewarding that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's like a team, you know, playing in a group
of five college football conference and them getting in, which
it happened last year. Well now I know it didn't
because SMU wasn't a power for but yeah, but it did.
Boise State got in the playoff last year. Trying to
think who else got in? That was a uh, did
b why you made the College football Playoff last year?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Or did they not? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh then Okay, they were on that, they were right
on that periphery of doing it. Boise State made it
in Arizona State, but Arizona State, Yeah, they're powerful because
they're they're in the Big twelve. So I just I
think what it does is it takes away from giving
teams fast passes to a home playoff game when you
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play in such a weak division. And that's all I want,
you know, that's that's it for me. You play in
such a weak division.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
One thing I do like throughout the NFL and compared
to college football, is you don't have these committees betting
on or not betting, but choosing who is the one
that gets to make the playoff everything. I love how
there's just there's a system, like you know, you have
to do every single year. You don't play the same
teams necessarily because everyone has different schedules, but it's it's
set in stone. This is what you have to do
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to go to the playoffs. This is what you have
to do to host playoff games. It's there's no questions
about it. There's no like, oh, what about this team's
record against sub five hundred teams and all that stuff
that the committees always look at in choosing the college.
That's something that always bothered me about college football and
that I admired about the NFL. So I want to
keep it as cut and dry about so what standards are?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So what's the thing again? Just refreshment are, Like, why
do you hate that so much in college football?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
What's the reason why?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Because I don't want suits choosing who No, I'm with
you there seating there, I know about a committee. I know,
like I know, so like the year that the Huskies
went two years ago, Florida State gets left out because
Jordan Travis gets injured even though they had an undefeated record,
Like there would be no questions about, oh, should this
team have been in.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's not like that.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
It's like you win your division and then there's all
these tie breaks and I like the objectivity of the
playoff seating process at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, there is, that's true. I mean there's no if not. Yeah, no,
that's definitely right. And then you have that for the
March madness as well. But then then again, you have
sixty eight teams, so you're going to need some sort
of committee. But it would be nicer if it was
played out on the field. I mean, listen, they tried
to do this in college football twenty plus years ago
with the BCS, and there was controversy with that because
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certain teams could have run it up on other teams
and it would increase their ranking. And then basically, you know,
and that just you know, and then other teams who
might have been in a more competitive conference couldn't run
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And so you're right though about suits deciding. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm not going to argue that, but I think the
NFL needs to take a long, hard look at this.
They have to, and if they do it, I think
it would be it would better the game. At the
end of the day, you're trying to better the game
you want. You're trying to make everything. And that's one
of the things I admire a lot about the NFL
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is that every year, and unfortunately they didn't change the
whole the horrible kickoff thing, but every year they're trying
to tweak something thing here, tush push there, playoff seating here.
They're always trying to do something to tweak the game
and embtter the game. So that for me, I'd just
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like to see it. I want I want to see
the best teams get there, and if you have a
losing record and you're in a trash division, you shouldn't
be hosting a playoff game. I mean that's where I
come from. I just don't see it now. Granted, twenty
ten unbelievable. I'll never forget watching that live. I believe
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it was in Charlotte, North Carolina, in a hotel watching
that and just saying, this is Spo Jackson and Techmo
Bowl like they are literally bouncing off him.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They cannot tackle him. He is just he really is.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The Beast Quake and the fact that it actually had
some tremors at Husky Stadium, that's correct?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Is that field? You mean?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, okay, but Lumenfield? Was that game not at Husky Stadium?
It was okay, was that lumin But they said that
maybe there was the tremors that were felt at Husky Stadium.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's where they have the measure, right.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, that's right, Yeah, exactly, so the Beast Quake. Can
you imagine a run like that happening to where it
has such Oh my, that's incredible. That's unfreaking believable, And yeah,
would have been. But going forward, Hey, if if you're
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the Hawks and you have a great record and a
team in a poor division. Let's just say it would
be the NFC South that there's another situation where a
team goes eight and nine, they win the playoff, and
the Hawks go thirteen and four as a wildcard. Well,
guess what, You're now going to host that playoff game.
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You're not going on the road to Tampa or Atlanta,
which so there's a lot of things that you can
look at. I think it's just best. Any time you
can improve the game, go for it. Just go for it,
from my standpoint. But it's gonna take twenty four out
of thirty two teams to vote that thing through. I
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think it will fail at the first vote, but I
think it'll get close, and I think maybe next year
or the year after that it could possibly, it could
possibly just go through and change the complexion of the
NFL playoffs as we know it. I would like to
see it, but hey, I don't want to see flag football.
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That's my big thing. I don't That to me is
something that I'm just nowhere near. Do I want to
see at all. But in terms of the playoff seating,
sign me up eight days a week and ten times
on Sunday, and listen, I'm not trying to put some
fake fear out there about players getting hurt, but it
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can happen.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now I'm shocked.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean maybe because basketball is a different game, but
it's so athletic. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened yet
with players getting hurt in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm surprised, I really am. I'm surprised that has not happened.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But football even being flag football that in someone texted
in the text line he said, Hey, I played football
my whole life. I never got hurt until I was
playing flag football. So just because it's flag football doesn't
mean that you can't get hurt at all. So, and
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here's my thing, why is that a summer Olympic sport
as well?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I don't understand that, Like, why what is it?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Because America is trying to flex and show their muscle
on this, but why is it a a Why would
it be an Olympic sport? What made flag football something
that that the US Olympic Committee is going to say, oh, yeah,
we got to get that in there. It's never been
And if you brought this sub ten or fifteen years ago,
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nobody would ever wanted it there?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
All right? The what do you say?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Text of the day coming up next four nine to four,
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Speaker 4 (16:00):
Are them welcome back into m J in the mid day.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
My name is Anderson Hurst. Let's get some texts in here.
A lot of them coming in talking Mariners, talking Seahawks
and how they stack up against the rest of the division.
Some flight football stuff in there. But let's do a
little off topic to get us started. Rod from the
two o six. Do you like Tom Cruise and the
Mission Impossible movies? Not sure where that came from or
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how it was prompted.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's okay question, that's okay, sure, Yeah, yeah, I do, yeah,
he's do you Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think they're They're really good.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan, just of him, right,
but I like the Mission Possible movies.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Like I like a lot of his stuff that were
Eyes Wide Shut, Yeah, Top Gun, the original one and
the sequel Maverick was great too. Yeah, but just all
of his other stuff. I mean, you go back to
his early movies with The Outsiders and what was that
football movie?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
All the right moves all the right moves.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Was Sean Penn's brother and Leah Thompson, who was the
big you know she was in Back to the Future.
Jerry McGuire, Jerry Yes, Cherry. Oh gee, oh, Jerry McGuire
was phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That was awesome. That was that was funny.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Hey, MJ, you're an idiot putting fake fear into people's heads.
This is the dumbest thing you've ever said. No, I've
said dumber.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We all have.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Oh, believe me, I've said dumber. But thank you on that.
You're giving me too much credit. There is that in
reference to the football start.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Just I'm looking out for like, here's my thing. What's
more important? Let's just hypothetically look at this in the future.
Twenty thirty two Olympics. Jalen Milroe. He's the star franchise
quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. What's more important to you
Hawks fans? Him leading the Hawks to what will hopefully
be their third Super Bowl title or fourth, or him
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winning a gold medal for this country and risking injury,
thus jeopardizing him and doing something to the extent of
getting a chance to lead the Seahawks to their fourth
Vince Lombardi Trophy. I'm I'm proposing that they're gonna win
two between now and twenty thirty two.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I hope, wow wow w o history. But now right right,
going to win two of Mario? Yeah, So what do
you want? You want your home team to win the
Super Bowl? That's more important? Listen.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I think if you've asked thirty two NFL fan bases,
what's more important to you your team winning a Super
Bowl and being a Super Bowl tender every single year,
or one of your star athletes win a gold medal
in flag football in the Summer Olympics. I think it
would be ninety percent of the people saying they want
their their star athletes to win in their Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I think that's the point of the NFL trying to
move this direction, though, is because in other sports, you'd
ask a Canadian who would they Would they rather the
Canada win the gold gold medal or would they rather
their favorite team when the Standing Cup they want hockey?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's a different story. The same thing about soccer. How
about the Four Nations?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, exactly. I saw how much passion was in that
more than the regular season. So I think NFL is
trying to get on that, like, Okay, let's let's put
some patriotism in the game and make it even better.
So I understand what they're thinking. I just don't know
where it's going to come from because the vast majority
of football players are from America, so like, you're not
going to get any competition from anywhere else. But maybe
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that's how you started, is you you started in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know if that's what happens before the chicken
or the egg and so like, well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, hey from the five one zero, that's we don't
get that area code every day. Watch the Justin Bieber
documentary Squandered his Fortune to a call. Yeah, I saw
something the other day on Hulu about him. TMZ did
a forty five to an hour kind of little thing
on the emergency state of Justin Bieber. Where he's at
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right now, and it is he is not in a
good place. I hope he gets healthy physically and mentally.
He is not in a good place right now.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Fourty five.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No way do I want any of my Seahawks playing
the flag football versus the other countries and players with
nothing to lose. NFL contracts aren't guaranteed. Let college kids
are undrafted kids play. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that.
I understand you're okay with that. I understand your thinking there.
But I just think if you want to truly grow
the game, you gotta have nuts. They do that in
the hockey too, Like right now there's the World Championships
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going on, but none of the best players are playing,
right They're on the NHL playoffs still, So like that's
why they say best on best, that that's the term
that use when the best players are actually playing for
the country. Is like they did in the Four Nations.
And if you really want to grow it in that
sort of realm, then you're gonna have to have the
best players play Four Nations.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Was unbelievable completely, he completely overshadowed and destroyed NBA All start.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Kit, Chuck, you got injured in the Four Nations. I
know you missed the entire second half of the season. Yeah,
but it's right, he said he didn't care. That was
something he cared about more. I want to I would
like to see NFL get to that point eventually. I
don't know if it will, but it's it's something that
I think is missing from the game from.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The three six. Oh, MJ, shut your mouth. You sound
really stupid right now.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Worried about the wocification of the NFL, but you're afraid
a player will get hurt playing flag football, not tackle flag.
The chance to play for your country in front the
world is worth it. Imagine if America doesn't win because
it's a team of nobody's not a risk I want
to take. I want to see the American football dream
team go out and dominate the world. Sorry, MJ, your
opinion sucks. Oh thanks for listening anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean, you know, they're not all great. They're not
all good. I get it. I get it, they're not
all good.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We have some dubs, we have some l's. Yes, disagree
on the receding conversation. Each division is their own sub league.
The winner and their fans deserve a home game. If
they are so subpar, then they lose and the better
team moves on. Then if you want home field, win
your division.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So yeah, so he's he doesn't want any part of
the nothing Nope, yeah, kind of with him on that.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Beyond I.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Hey from the three six to oh. I want KJR
to know I do enjoy Mark James in the Midday.
I think all opinions and styles are needed at KJR.
I like KJR because y'all push the envelope on topics.
He's the Don Rickles of radio hosts. I laugh out
loud on many of his takes. Well, that says something
because I'm not funny. So if you're laughing, it's unintentional.
But I'll take it anyway. I'm not funny guy, I
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am not.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I know this and you know so. But if I
can get an unintentional laugh out of the audience, then
so be it. God bless you. Uh, let's see what else?
What else?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Forty five Just because things have always been one way
doesn't mean it's the right way. Change is okay, it
makes complete sense. I don't know if that's in reference
to the fight football or the seeding conversation, because that
would be two different answers. Yeah, that could be, yeah,
but I wouldn't. Maybe a little specification there, forty five
let us know what you really think. Forty five teams
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should not be rewarded for being in a poor division.
Not only do they benefit from having a worse record.
Your schedule is likely easier. Teams are penalized for being
in a great division. Not only do they have a
better record, they have a more difficult schedule. The current
format makes little sense.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So he's with the change.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, forty five Mark, you're wrong, opposite, Keep playoff format
as it is. It's broken. If it's broken. If it's broken,
do I think he's meant to say? If it's not broken,
don't think its forever?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah? Wow? How about from the two five three?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I think that the NFL players should have the opportunity
to represent their country. Some people I think have a
call to service. I served in the military. Military. Maybe
this is their way to serve their country. Maybe you
just don't have an aptitude for service.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
They could get.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't stepping off a curb, things happened. Always said
they could get hurt stepping off a curb. Things happen. True,
But do you want your best players representing your favorite
NFL franchise?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And what is winning? Would you? Here's my thing?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
What's more important? And you're right about it. By the way,
thank you for your service. This is a military appreciation month.
We want to hear from you, so please while you
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who have served our country.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So thank you, sir for that. I get it. But
what would you feel more pride.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
The men's basketball team winning the gold medal, which they
did last year with ant Man and Lebron and Steph Curry?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Or flag football a sport that is.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Pretty much it's streamlined to fit the NFL bit like
nobody else in the country can come close to us
because nobody else, I mean there are flag football team
football teams around the country, but when you put them
up against the best athletes in the world at what
they do every Sunday afternoon and Mondays and Thursdays, then
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it's really like, is that going to give you a
lot of pride? As it would if winning the gold medal?
And men's basketball or hockey? Oh hockey. When I think
of Olympics hockey, you know the miracle on ice will
always come first and foremost. Do you believe in miracles
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and winning in hockey, especially doing it against Canada where
they invent did the sport and perfected the sport. That
to me in flag football, which is really it's only
kind of if it does even get past as a
sport in the Olympics, it's only doing it at the
behest of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, And I think the idea is to play the
long run here because it's you want to get to
the point where there are other powers of football, and
that's I think the trying to grow the interest in
the NFL specifically in other countries, and now you're trying
to get players from other countries to represent a football
team in the Olympics, which is probably one of the
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most global events of all time. So that's the idea,
so that you get to the point that maybe basketball
or hockey is at especially soccer is a great the
greatest example where there are teams all around the world
that can put out great players. And it's that's where
if you ask any hardcore soccer fan, you'd rather the
US win the World Cup for the first time ever
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than any of their favorite teams if you're a US fan,
or the same.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Goes for any other country. Yeah, yeah, they want that
World Cup. Man, I don't blame them.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
And I think yea, and I think that's where football
wants to get to, where there is that much passion
for the other parts of the game and not just
during the four months of the NFL season.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
From the two OZH six. This thing happens once every
four years. It's not going to be every year there's
a potential injury. It gives the guys a shot at
a gold medal symbol as they're amazing. They have given
their body to a sport and want their highest decoration
you can get as an athlete to say you're actually
the best in the world. I don't think anybody's going
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to dispute that they aren't the best in the world
because we're the only where we invented the American eyes
version of football four two five.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Longer term vision.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Think of the corporate money, visibility and brand awareness the
owners get long after an individual player recovers from an injury.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, that makes sense why the owners want it at least. Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Patrick. You're one of a very few right now, but
I appreciate you. MJ's become my new favorite radio host
in town. Keep up the takes.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I agree with a lot of them. Well you, my friend,
right now, are in a very and a minority, buddy.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Thank you from the four two five MJ solid love
his takes, love his passion. Hey, one thing about me,
love me, hate me or whatever. I'm gonna be as
honest with the audience. And because I was from a
long time ago, the audience, I was told from when
I started this business. You can lie to your mom,
you can lie to your dad, you can lie to
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your brother, you can lie to your sister, you can
lie to your girlfriend. You can lie to your boyfriend,
your sister, your aunt, uncle, niece.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And nephews. Never lie to the audience. Never. So yeah,
but I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That was all good, and I'll all right, we'll go
with this one, the gold Medal's most important medals for
the country.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Over everything from the two to zero six. Fair enough,
all right, and so listen, I want to be the best,
but we already are the best. Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Just to me, to win a gold medal at a
sport that we invented, that we perfected, doesn't It's like
it's like a porn star saying that they can have
better sex than regular people. Well, of course you're getting
paid to do it, you should.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Is that a good analogy?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe, I think, But literally, let's let the text line
to side. We'll let them decide on that one, all right. Uh,
Mayer up next. I think he's recording something. We'll see
if he'll be able to make it in. But uh,
maybe we have to. You ought to tune in to
find out. Okay, he's here though, Yeah, but he's recording
an interview. Okay, cool, Yeah, all right, we will be
back for the final segment of MJ and the mid
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Day Sports Radio ninety three to three KJRFM. All right,
(30:15):
no guest today, so there's no one to think Christopher
Kidd will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I believe after his break. Is that correct? Yes, you
guys won't have to suffer through me anymore. You did
a good job, really good job. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We So things got a little testy down at the
NFL owners meeting in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh yeah, tempers are flaring apparently that this is over
the I hate saying that name, Tush Push.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
The discussion occurred to what is called a general session.
According to Seth Wickersham, Great Guy, which is attended by
owners as well as team and league executives. Philadelphia Eagles
owner Jeffrey Lourie made an impassioned speech in defense of
the play. So the Eagles and NFL declined comment, but
sources close to Lurie said that he had seen reports
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from earlier in the day that The Tushbush was gonna
be banned, so he figured the odds of the play
survival were long. He pulled out all the stops. One
source close to Lurie said he knew he needed to
throw a Hail Mary. Towards the end of the speech
that lasted close to an hour, Lurie made an off
the cuff analogy. He told the room that regardless of
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whether the play was banned, it is a It was
a win win for the Eagles, adding that, and I'm
quoting here, it's like a wet dream for a teenage boy.
This I'm this is Seth wicker Shams. I am trust
me what I tell you. I can screenshot it. I'm
quoting that. To create a play that was so successful
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that the only way for it to be stopped was
it for to be banned. Lurie spoke for several more minutes.
That's an interesting analogy, adding that whoever voted to ban
the play would be taking liability for putting quarterbacks at risk.
He criticized Roger Goodell and Executive vice President of Football
Operations Troy Vincent for advocating the band, adding that he
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had spoken to NFL Chief Medical Officer Alan Sills at
length about the play. After Lourie finished speaking, Vincent chastied
the Eagles owner for the quote wet dream comment, specifically
for saying it in front of women in the meeting.
Eagles assistant general manager, I'm not making this stuff up.
I am reading for batam from Seth Wickersham Eagles assistant
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general manager John Ferrari and former Eagles star center Jason Kelsey,
currently ESPN analyst, addressed the room next. Kelsey said he
would return to the NFL if he could run sixty
toush pushes a game. Jerry Jones asked a few questions,
while Buffalo Bill's owner Terry Goula, a critic of the tushpush,
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said his team was good at the play and still
supported banning it. An hour pass when San Francisco forty
nine Ers owner Jed York asked LORII. How much more
ish do you need to say? There are a few
scattered laughs, but the room was quite intense. Goodell then
adjourned to the quote privileged session, which is attended by
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owners in top league executives. The ban failed by a
vote of twenty two to ten, falling to vote shy
of the twenty four needed to ban the play. Oh
damn now, it says, accorded to ESPN, teams that voted
in favor of the tush push the Browns, Dolphins, obviously
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the Eagles. So besides the Eagles, I'm gonna give you
the teams that voted in favor of it to keep
it going. Brown's, Dolphins, Jags, Jets, Lions, Patriots, Ravens, Saints, Titans.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Guess what do any of.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Them play Philly in twenty twenty five? Nope, no they
do not. So the teams that don't have to face
it in twenty twenty five voted for it. It's on
the verge of going away. Hugh Millen, We're almost there, man,
We're almost there. We're gonna get this this Australian rules
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football rugby play out of the game. We're almost there.
Gotta wait till next year twenty two instead of twenty four.
Just two votes. Shy, wow, Jeffrey Loriie, Hey, when you're
a billionaire owner, you can make analogies like that, and
you know it's even though that it's unbecoming and it's
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something that is not professional.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
What are you gonna do? You sign the front of
the checks. You're the owner. What are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I mean, the Eagles really really do not want
this play to go away. So there it is.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It stands for another year. The Seahawks apparently voted for it.
I would surmise because I didn't see them being on
one of the teams who voted against it. So, hey,
you know what could benefit the Seahawks this season Jalen
Milroe in certain situations. So I can see why they
would vote for it to stay in the game. But wow,
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things get a little really tense and contentious at those
owners meetings.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's not just Chateau Brion and.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Shrimp cocktail right with lemon drop Martiniz you know, I mean,
it's oh yeah, they're down a business man. They are
down to business, all right. I'll be back tomorrow. Christopher
Kidd will be in the house we'll hear all about
his deferred honeymoon vacation and how great it was with
him and his wife, and we will talk to you.
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Stay tuned next for the Mayor of Maple Valley in
for next on Sports Radio ninety three to three kJ
Rtham
One of the things that they are considering right now,
and you know I feel about flag football and the
Olympics not a fan, but one of the things they're
considering right now is almost pretty much negating winning your division.
So you win your division, you go to the playoffs.
That will not change. But so this past season, the
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Lions were the one seed at fifteen and two, the
Eagles were the two seed at fourteen and three. Those
would not change. That would stay the same. Now here's
where the changes would occur. Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a
three seed at ten and seven. The Rams were the
four seed at ten and seven, and then it was
the Vikings who had a fourteen and three record, They
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were the five seed. The Commanders, who had a twelve
and five record, were the six seed, and the Packers
had eleven six record with a seven seed. Where would
change if the new proposal goes through lines and Eagles
would stay one and two, But then despite not winning
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their division. Under the new proposal, the Minnesota Vikings would
be the three seed in the NFC and the Washington
Commanders will be the four seed in the NFC, dropping
the Bucks to the sixth seed and the Rams to
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the seventh seed. So despite the fact that the Rams
won their division, they'd be the seventh seed because they
had a worse record than the Vikings and Commanders. I know,
I know this is very polarizing, but this is something
I am all in on. I know it would have
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robbed Seattle of one of its greatest moments in sports history,
the beast Quake run against the New Orleans Saints in
twenty ten. Hawks for seven to nine that season they
won their division, they should not have been hosting a
playoff game. They would not have been hosting a playoff
game in this new proposed system, they would not have
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So there's some things that I can understand you not
like it about. So if you win your division, you're
still going to playoffs, but you're just not guaranteed to
host a home playoff game. And I have to tell
you I am all for this. I love this eight
days a week and ten times on Sunday. Give it
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to me, Give everything to me on this. I want
this in the worst way and I hope it goes through.
But I can understand a lot of people not liking it.
For me, I don't want to reward mediocrity and futility,
and it's one. I mean the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the
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year after they won the Super Bowl, they had a
losing record. They won their division, and they hosted two playoff.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Games that year, two of them.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I believe they beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the first game,
and then they lost to the La Rams in the
divisional round, both at home, though both at home. So
I definitely that is not something like that I would
have loved at all.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I would not have liked that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It would to me, that would have been something that no,
not a fan, or I might have been off by.
I think the next year, in twenty twenty two, they
had the Bucks had a losing record. That's what it was.
That's what it was. It wasn't twenty twenty one. I
believe it was twenty twenty two that they Yeah, I'm
pretty sure in that time. But anyway, that to me
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is something I would be all in on and I
would love the NFL to do. I would love the
NFL to do that for me. Yeah, you know, I mean,
I get it. It's not forever. They were eight and
nine that year. So the twenty twenty two season, they
were eight and nine, and they they hosted the Dallas
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Cowboys and that was Tom Brady's final ever game.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They got killed at home. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I go back and forth on this because I agree
with what you're saying about not wanting to reward mediocrity.
It wouldn't change the teams that get in the NFL,
just who hosts the home playoff games. So that's something.
But I do also think it kind of it. One
of the biggest parts of the NFL that I really
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enjoy is the divisional rivalries, and it would not negate those,
but it would put less emphasis on winning your division.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh absolutely so. Oh, it completely does.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And you could still like so the Seahawks, the seven
to nine year that won their division in twenty ten,
they would have still gone to the playoffs. They just
wouldn't have hosted that game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But I do think there's something to winning your division,
and I don't necessarily mind a team that maybe maybe
you play in a tougher division. You're playing those those
guys twice more than anyone else, So record doesn't necessarily
mean everything. We've seen teams with better records lose all
the time, especially in the NFL, which is the league
of parody, and I don't. The biggest thing for me
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is I don't want to take away something from a
division rivalry because then those games would mean less. They
would basically just see another another game, and so I
don't want that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But I think the rivalry was still there.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But I see what you're saying is that, you know,
I just think it's unfair when you talk about unbalanced
where the Houston Texans, they get the trash Jaguars, the
absolute you know, horrible colts in the garbage Titans. That's
basically almost a guaranteed five or six wins a year.
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And you win your division, well, you know you won
your division, fine, but should you be hosting over maybe
a Denver Broncos or LA Chargers team that won twelve
or thirteen games and then a better record than you
and you played in a week division. So you're right though, Oh,
it definitely would take away I think the rivalries will
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never go away. They would never go away ever, but
it would certainly it would put it would basically deemphasize
winning the division. Yeah, you just need but you still
have to win and you still have to have one
of the best records in the NFC. So you know,
and here's the thing, not necessarily with DFHSI because if
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you win the division, you automatically get in the playoffs, right,
that doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's about hosting though, So I think I still want
to have, like I guess said, I go back and forth,
I still would like to have the teams that win
their division be the higher seeds.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
For me, Okay, no, I mean I it is this
is one that to me, this is more than the
Tush push or anything else. This is actually the most
polarizing because this affects every team well.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And a good example is we saw the Rams this
past year. They won their division, right, but no one
really took them seriously going into the playoffs. I think
people were like, oh, like you look at Detroit and
Minnesota and Green Bay. It's it's it's a shame that
two of those teams were wildcard teams, and then the
Rams who won their division, you know, a week NFC
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West year, they kind of get overlooked, and then the
Rams are actually the team that most people say was
the real super Bowl against the Philadelphia It was so
it there's a lot of times a record doesn't really
show everything.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, no, it does not. No record certainly doesn't. And
but and that's what I'm saying when it comes to
playing in the AFC South or the NFC South. I mean,
look at if you're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Falcons
have been trash. You got the Panthers who have been
bottom of the basement, and then you have the Saints
who they're not what they were when Drew Brees was
there and Derek Carr just retired. So they're going to
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be starting a new with a brand new quarterback, whether
it be Tyler Shuck, Spencer Rattler, Jake Hayner. So I
just don't want to reward teams with bad and bad divisions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
That's my whole thing that like you're rewarding that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's like a team, you know, playing in a group
of five college football conference and them getting in, which
it happened last year. Well now I know it didn't
because SMU wasn't a power for but yeah, but it did.
Boise State got in the playoff last year. Trying to
think who else got in? That was a uh, did
b why you made the College football Playoff last year?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Or did they not? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh then Okay, they were on that, they were right
on that periphery of doing it. Boise State made it
in Arizona State, but Arizona State, Yeah, they're powerful because
they're they're in the Big twelve. So I just I
think what it does is it takes away from giving
teams fast passes to a home playoff game when you
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play in such a weak division. And that's all I want,
you know, that's that's it for me. You play in
such a weak division.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
One thing I do like throughout the NFL and compared
to college football, is you don't have these committees betting
on or not betting, but choosing who is the one
that gets to make the playoff everything. I love how
there's just there's a system, like you know, you have
to do every single year. You don't play the same
teams necessarily because everyone has different schedules, but it's it's
set in stone. This is what you have to do
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to go to the playoffs. This is what you have
to do to host playoff games. It's there's no questions
about it. There's no like, oh, what about this team's
record against sub five hundred teams and all that stuff
that the committees always look at in choosing the college.
That's something that always bothered me about college football and
that I admired about the NFL. So I want to
keep it as cut and dry about so what standards are?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So what's the thing again? Just refreshment are, Like, why
do you hate that so much in college football?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
What's the reason why?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Because I don't want suits choosing who No, I'm with
you there seating there, I know about a committee. I know,
like I know, so like the year that the Huskies
went two years ago, Florida State gets left out because
Jordan Travis gets injured even though they had an undefeated record,
Like there would be no questions about, oh, should this
team have been in.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's not like that.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
It's like you win your division and then there's all
these tie breaks and I like the objectivity of the
playoff seating process at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, there is, that's true. I mean there's no if not. Yeah, no,
that's definitely right. And then you have that for the
March madness as well. But then then again, you have
sixty eight teams, so you're going to need some sort
of committee. But it would be nicer if it was
played out on the field. I mean, listen, they tried
to do this in college football twenty plus years ago
with the BCS, and there was controversy with that because
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certain teams could have run it up on other teams
and it would increase their ranking. And then basically, you know,
and that just you know, and then other teams who
might have been in a more competitive conference couldn't run
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And so you're right though about suits deciding. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm not going to argue that, but I think the
NFL needs to take a long, hard look at this.
They have to, and if they do it, I think
it would be it would better the game. At the
end of the day, you're trying to better the game
you want. You're trying to make everything. And that's one
of the things I admire a lot about the NFL
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is that every year, and unfortunately they didn't change the
whole the horrible kickoff thing, but every year they're trying
to tweak something thing here, tush push there, playoff seating here.
They're always trying to do something to tweak the game
and embtter the game. So that for me, I'd just
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like to see it. I want I want to see
the best teams get there, and if you have a
losing record and you're in a trash division, you shouldn't
be hosting a playoff game. I mean that's where I
come from. I just don't see it now. Granted, twenty
ten unbelievable. I'll never forget watching that live. I believe
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it was in Charlotte, North Carolina, in a hotel watching
that and just saying, this is Spo Jackson and Techmo
Bowl like they are literally bouncing off him.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They cannot tackle him. He is just he really is.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The Beast Quake and the fact that it actually had
some tremors at Husky Stadium, that's correct?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Is that field? You mean?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, okay, but Lumenfield? Was that game not at Husky Stadium?
It was okay, was that lumin But they said that
maybe there was the tremors that were felt at Husky Stadium.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's where they have the measure, right.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, that's right, Yeah, exactly, so the Beast Quake. Can
you imagine a run like that happening to where it
has such Oh my, that's incredible. That's unfreaking believable, And yeah,
would have been. But going forward, Hey, if if you're
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the Hawks and you have a great record and a
team in a poor division. Let's just say it would
be the NFC South that there's another situation where a
team goes eight and nine, they win the playoff, and
the Hawks go thirteen and four as a wildcard. Well,
guess what, You're now going to host that playoff game.
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You're not going on the road to Tampa or Atlanta,
which so there's a lot of things that you can
look at. I think it's just best. Any time you
can improve the game, go for it. Just go for it,
from my standpoint. But it's gonna take twenty four out
of thirty two teams to vote that thing through. I
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think it will fail at the first vote, but I
think it'll get close, and I think maybe next year
or the year after that it could possibly, it could
possibly just go through and change the complexion of the
NFL playoffs as we know it. I would like to
see it, but hey, I don't want to see flag football.
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That's my big thing. I don't That to me is
something that I'm just nowhere near. Do I want to
see at all. But in terms of the playoff seating,
sign me up eight days a week and ten times
on Sunday, and listen, I'm not trying to put some
fake fear out there about players getting hurt, but it
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can happen.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now I'm shocked.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean maybe because basketball is a different game, but
it's so athletic. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened yet
with players getting hurt in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm surprised, I really am. I'm surprised that has not happened.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But football even being flag football that in someone texted
in the text line he said, Hey, I played football
my whole life. I never got hurt until I was
playing flag football. So just because it's flag football doesn't
mean that you can't get hurt at all. So, and
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here's my thing, why is that a summer Olympic sport
as well?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I don't understand that, Like, why what is it?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Because America is trying to flex and show their muscle
on this, but why is it a a Why would
it be an Olympic sport? What made flag football something
that that the US Olympic Committee is going to say, oh, yeah,
we got to get that in there. It's never been
And if you brought this sub ten or fifteen years ago,
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nobody would ever wanted it there?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
All right? The what do you say?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Text of the day coming up next four nine to four,
five to one is next on MJ the Midday Sports
Radio ninety three to three kJ.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Are them welcome back into m J in the mid day.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
My name is Anderson Hurst. Let's get some texts in here.
A lot of them coming in talking Mariners, talking Seahawks
and how they stack up against the rest of the division.
Some flight football stuff in there. But let's do a
little off topic to get us started. Rod from the
two o six. Do you like Tom Cruise and the
Mission Impossible movies? Not sure where that came from or
(16:45):
how it was prompted.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's okay question, that's okay, sure, Yeah, yeah, I do, yeah,
he's do you Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think they're They're really good.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan, just of him, right,
but I like the Mission Possible movies.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Like I like a lot of his stuff that were
Eyes Wide Shut, Yeah, Top Gun, the original one and
the sequel Maverick was great too. Yeah, but just all
of his other stuff. I mean, you go back to
his early movies with The Outsiders and what was that
football movie?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
All the right moves all the right moves.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Was Sean Penn's brother and Leah Thompson, who was the
big you know she was in Back to the Future.
Jerry McGuire, Jerry Yes, Cherry. Oh gee, oh, Jerry McGuire
was phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That was awesome. That was that was funny.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Hey, MJ, you're an idiot putting fake fear into people's heads.
This is the dumbest thing you've ever said. No, I've
said dumber.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We all have.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Oh, believe me, I've said dumber. But thank you on that.
You're giving me too much credit. There is that in
reference to the football start.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Just I'm looking out for like, here's my thing. What's
more important? Let's just hypothetically look at this in the future.
Twenty thirty two Olympics. Jalen Milroe. He's the star franchise
quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks. What's more important to you
Hawks fans? Him leading the Hawks to what will hopefully
be their third Super Bowl title or fourth, or him
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winning a gold medal for this country and risking injury,
thus jeopardizing him and doing something to the extent of
getting a chance to lead the Seahawks to their fourth
Vince Lombardi Trophy. I'm I'm proposing that they're gonna win
two between now and twenty thirty two.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I hope, wow wow w o history. But now right right,
going to win two of Mario? Yeah, So what do
you want? You want your home team to win the
Super Bowl? That's more important? Listen.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I think if you've asked thirty two NFL fan bases,
what's more important to you your team winning a Super
Bowl and being a Super Bowl tender every single year,
or one of your star athletes win a gold medal
in flag football in the Summer Olympics. I think it
would be ninety percent of the people saying they want
their their star athletes to win in their Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I think that's the point of the NFL trying to
move this direction, though, is because in other sports, you'd
ask a Canadian who would they Would they rather the
Canada win the gold gold medal or would they rather
their favorite team when the Standing Cup they want hockey?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's a different story. The same thing about soccer. How
about the Four Nations?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, exactly. I saw how much passion was in that
more than the regular season. So I think NFL is
trying to get on that, like, Okay, let's let's put
some patriotism in the game and make it even better.
So I understand what they're thinking. I just don't know
where it's going to come from because the vast majority
of football players are from America, so like, you're not
going to get any competition from anywhere else. But maybe
(19:54):
that's how you started, is you you started in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know if that's what happens before the chicken
or the egg and so like, well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, hey from the five one zero, that's we don't
get that area code every day. Watch the Justin Bieber
documentary Squandered his Fortune to a call. Yeah, I saw
something the other day on Hulu about him. TMZ did
a forty five to an hour kind of little thing
on the emergency state of Justin Bieber. Where he's at
(20:24):
right now, and it is he is not in a
good place. I hope he gets healthy physically and mentally.
He is not in a good place right now.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Fourty five.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No way do I want any of my Seahawks playing
the flag football versus the other countries and players with
nothing to lose. NFL contracts aren't guaranteed. Let college kids
are undrafted kids play. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that.
I understand you're okay with that. I understand your thinking there.
But I just think if you want to truly grow
the game, you gotta have nuts. They do that in
the hockey too, Like right now there's the World Championships
(20:53):
going on, but none of the best players are playing,
right They're on the NHL playoffs still, So like that's
why they say best on best, that that's the term
that use when the best players are actually playing for
the country. Is like they did in the Four Nations.
And if you really want to grow it in that
sort of realm, then you're gonna have to have the
best players play Four Nations.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Was unbelievable completely, he completely overshadowed and destroyed NBA All start.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Kit, Chuck, you got injured in the Four Nations. I
know you missed the entire second half of the season. Yeah,
but it's right, he said he didn't care. That was
something he cared about more. I want to I would
like to see NFL get to that point eventually. I
don't know if it will, but it's it's something that
I think is missing from the game from.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The three six. Oh, MJ, shut your mouth. You sound
really stupid right now.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Worried about the wocification of the NFL, but you're afraid
a player will get hurt playing flag football, not tackle flag.
The chance to play for your country in front the
world is worth it. Imagine if America doesn't win because
it's a team of nobody's not a risk I want
to take. I want to see the American football dream
team go out and dominate the world. Sorry, MJ, your
opinion sucks. Oh thanks for listening anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean, you know, they're not all great. They're not
all good. I get it. I get it, they're not
all good.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We have some dubs, we have some l's. Yes, disagree
on the receding conversation. Each division is their own sub league.
The winner and their fans deserve a home game. If
they are so subpar, then they lose and the better
team moves on. Then if you want home field, win
your division.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So yeah, so he's he doesn't want any part of
the nothing Nope, yeah, kind of with him on that.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Beyond I.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Hey from the three six to oh. I want KJR
to know I do enjoy Mark James in the Midday.
I think all opinions and styles are needed at KJR.
I like KJR because y'all push the envelope on topics.
He's the Don Rickles of radio hosts. I laugh out
loud on many of his takes. Well, that says something
because I'm not funny. So if you're laughing, it's unintentional.
But I'll take it anyway. I'm not funny guy, I
(22:48):
am not.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I know this and you know so. But if I
can get an unintentional laugh out of the audience, then
so be it. God bless you. Uh, let's see what else?
What else?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Forty five Just because things have always been one way
doesn't mean it's the right way. Change is okay, it
makes complete sense. I don't know if that's in reference
to the fight football or the seeding conversation, because that
would be two different answers. Yeah, that could be, yeah,
but I wouldn't. Maybe a little specification there, forty five
let us know what you really think. Forty five teams
(23:27):
should not be rewarded for being in a poor division.
Not only do they benefit from having a worse record.
Your schedule is likely easier. Teams are penalized for being
in a great division. Not only do they have a
better record, they have a more difficult schedule. The current
format makes little sense.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So he's with the change.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, forty five Mark, you're wrong, opposite, Keep playoff format
as it is. It's broken. If it's broken. If it's broken,
do I think he's meant to say? If it's not broken,
don't think its forever?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah? Wow? How about from the two five three?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I think that the NFL players should have the opportunity
to represent their country. Some people I think have a
call to service. I served in the military. Military. Maybe
this is their way to serve their country. Maybe you
just don't have an aptitude for service.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
They could get.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't stepping off a curb, things happened. Always said
they could get hurt stepping off a curb. Things happen. True,
But do you want your best players representing your favorite
NFL franchise?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And what is winning? Would you? Here's my thing?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
What's more important? And you're right about it. By the way,
thank you for your service. This is a military appreciation month.
We want to hear from you, so please while you
you mentioned that, sir, go to the new and improved
iHeartRadio app nainety three to three KJR, hit that little
microphone icon on the app and tell us about you.
All day Friday will be recognizing those in our community
(24:55):
who have served our country.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
So thank you, sir for that. I get it. But
what would you feel more pride.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
The men's basketball team winning the gold medal, which they
did last year with ant Man and Lebron and Steph Curry?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Or flag football a sport that is.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Pretty much it's streamlined to fit the NFL bit like
nobody else in the country can come close to us
because nobody else, I mean there are flag football team
football teams around the country, but when you put them
up against the best athletes in the world at what
they do every Sunday afternoon and Mondays and Thursdays, then
(25:34):
it's really like, is that going to give you a
lot of pride? As it would if winning the gold medal?
And men's basketball or hockey? Oh hockey. When I think
of Olympics hockey, you know the miracle on ice will
always come first and foremost. Do you believe in miracles
(25:55):
and winning in hockey, especially doing it against Canada where
they invent did the sport and perfected the sport. That
to me in flag football, which is really it's only
kind of if it does even get past as a
sport in the Olympics, it's only doing it at the
behest of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, And I think the idea is to play the
long run here because it's you want to get to
the point where there are other powers of football, and
that's I think the trying to grow the interest in
the NFL specifically in other countries, and now you're trying
to get players from other countries to represent a football
team in the Olympics, which is probably one of the
(26:37):
most global events of all time. So that's the idea,
so that you get to the point that maybe basketball
or hockey is at especially soccer is a great the
greatest example where there are teams all around the world
that can put out great players. And it's that's where
if you ask any hardcore soccer fan, you'd rather the
US win the World Cup for the first time ever
(26:58):
than any of their favorite teams if you're a US fan,
or the same.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Goes for any other country. Yeah, yeah, they want that
World Cup. Man, I don't blame them.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
And I think yea, and I think that's where football
wants to get to, where there is that much passion
for the other parts of the game and not just
during the four months of the NFL season.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
From the two OZH six. This thing happens once every
four years. It's not going to be every year there's
a potential injury. It gives the guys a shot at
a gold medal symbol as they're amazing. They have given
their body to a sport and want their highest decoration
you can get as an athlete to say you're actually
the best in the world. I don't think anybody's going
(27:35):
to dispute that they aren't the best in the world
because we're the only where we invented the American eyes
version of football four two five.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Longer term vision.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Think of the corporate money, visibility and brand awareness the
owners get long after an individual player recovers from an injury.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, that makes sense why the owners want it at least. Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Patrick. You're one of a very few right now, but
I appreciate you. MJ's become my new favorite radio host
in town. Keep up the takes.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I agree with a lot of them. Well you, my friend,
right now, are in a very and a minority, buddy.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Thank you from the four two five MJ solid love
his takes, love his passion. Hey, one thing about me,
love me, hate me or whatever. I'm gonna be as
honest with the audience. And because I was from a
long time ago, the audience, I was told from when
I started this business. You can lie to your mom,
you can lie to your dad, you can lie to
(28:40):
your brother, you can lie to your sister, you can
lie to your girlfriend. You can lie to your boyfriend,
your sister, your aunt, uncle, niece.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And nephews. Never lie to the audience. Never. So yeah,
but I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That was all good, and I'll all right, we'll go
with this one, the gold Medal's most important medals for
the country.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Over everything from the two to zero six. Fair enough,
all right, and so listen, I want to be the best,
but we already are the best. Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Just to me, to win a gold medal at a
sport that we invented, that we perfected, doesn't It's like
it's like a porn star saying that they can have
better sex than regular people. Well, of course you're getting
paid to do it, you should.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Is that a good analogy?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe, I think, But literally, let's let the text line
to side. We'll let them decide on that one, all right. Uh,
Mayer up next. I think he's recording something. We'll see
if he'll be able to make it in. But uh,
maybe we have to. You ought to tune in to
find out. Okay, he's here though, Yeah, but he's recording
an interview. Okay, cool, Yeah, all right, we will be
back for the final segment of MJ and the mid
(29:54):
Day Sports Radio ninety three to three KJRFM. All right,
(30:15):
no guest today, so there's no one to think Christopher
Kidd will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I believe after his break. Is that correct? Yes, you
guys won't have to suffer through me anymore. You did
a good job, really good job. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We So things got a little testy down at the
NFL owners meeting in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh yeah, tempers are flaring apparently that this is over
the I hate saying that name, Tush Push.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
The discussion occurred to what is called a general session.
According to Seth Wickersham, Great Guy, which is attended by
owners as well as team and league executives. Philadelphia Eagles
owner Jeffrey Lourie made an impassioned speech in defense of
the play. So the Eagles and NFL declined comment, but
sources close to Lurie said that he had seen reports
(31:12):
from earlier in the day that The Tushbush was gonna
be banned, so he figured the odds of the play
survival were long. He pulled out all the stops. One
source close to Lurie said he knew he needed to
throw a Hail Mary. Towards the end of the speech
that lasted close to an hour, Lurie made an off
the cuff analogy. He told the room that regardless of
(31:35):
whether the play was banned, it is a It was
a win win for the Eagles, adding that, and I'm
quoting here, it's like a wet dream for a teenage boy.
This I'm this is Seth wicker Shams. I am trust
me what I tell you. I can screenshot it. I'm
quoting that. To create a play that was so successful
(31:56):
that the only way for it to be stopped was
it for to be banned. Lurie spoke for several more minutes.
That's an interesting analogy, adding that whoever voted to ban
the play would be taking liability for putting quarterbacks at risk.
He criticized Roger Goodell and Executive vice President of Football
Operations Troy Vincent for advocating the band, adding that he
(32:18):
had spoken to NFL Chief Medical Officer Alan Sills at
length about the play. After Lourie finished speaking, Vincent chastied
the Eagles owner for the quote wet dream comment, specifically
for saying it in front of women in the meeting.
Eagles assistant general manager, I'm not making this stuff up.
I am reading for batam from Seth Wickersham Eagles assistant
(32:41):
general manager John Ferrari and former Eagles star center Jason Kelsey,
currently ESPN analyst, addressed the room next. Kelsey said he
would return to the NFL if he could run sixty
toush pushes a game. Jerry Jones asked a few questions,
while Buffalo Bill's owner Terry Goula, a critic of the tushpush,
(33:02):
said his team was good at the play and still
supported banning it. An hour pass when San Francisco forty
nine Ers owner Jed York asked LORII. How much more
ish do you need to say? There are a few
scattered laughs, but the room was quite intense. Goodell then
adjourned to the quote privileged session, which is attended by
(33:24):
owners in top league executives. The ban failed by a
vote of twenty two to ten, falling to vote shy
of the twenty four needed to ban the play. Oh
damn now, it says, accorded to ESPN, teams that voted
in favor of the tush push the Browns, Dolphins, obviously
(33:48):
the Eagles. So besides the Eagles, I'm gonna give you
the teams that voted in favor of it to keep
it going. Brown's, Dolphins, Jags, Jets, Lions, Patriots, Ravens, Saints, Titans.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Guess what do any of.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Them play Philly in twenty twenty five? Nope, no they
do not. So the teams that don't have to face
it in twenty twenty five voted for it. It's on
the verge of going away. Hugh Millen, We're almost there, man,
We're almost there. We're gonna get this this Australian rules
(34:21):
football rugby play out of the game. We're almost there.
Gotta wait till next year twenty two instead of twenty four.
Just two votes. Shy, wow, Jeffrey Loriie, Hey, when you're
a billionaire owner, you can make analogies like that, and
you know it's even though that it's unbecoming and it's
(34:44):
something that is not professional.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
What are you gonna do? You sign the front of
the checks. You're the owner. What are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I mean, the Eagles really really do not want
this play to go away. So there it is.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It stands for another year. The Seahawks apparently voted for it.
I would surmise because I didn't see them being on
one of the teams who voted against it. So, hey,
you know what could benefit the Seahawks this season Jalen
Milroe in certain situations. So I can see why they
would vote for it to stay in the game. But wow,
(35:21):
things get a little really tense and contentious at those
owners meetings.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's not just Chateau Brion and.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Shrimp cocktail right with lemon drop Martiniz you know, I mean,
it's oh yeah, they're down a business man. They are
down to business, all right. I'll be back tomorrow. Christopher
Kidd will be in the house we'll hear all about
his deferred honeymoon vacation and how great it was with
him and his wife, and we will talk to you.
(35:52):
Stay tuned next for the Mayor of Maple Valley in
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