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May 28, 2025 38 mins
The Seattle Mariners handled business Tuesday night against the Washington Nationals, but this is what the Mariners are supposed to do to bad baseball teams. Nick Emmanwori is all good with the Kam Chancellor comparisons but is he putting too much pressure on himself and his teammates? We also hit to all fields, as Kendrick Perkins had some interesting comments on Minnesota Timberwolves star Anthony Edwards. 
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Chopper Tana comes home size.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Dylan morris Se fed the plane right away center field,
edge shallow. This is gonna be tricky, edge botched. It
was Garcia trying to make a highlight reel over their
shoulder tesch and he swam it away like a bug.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
One two, the Rose Arena giving some ground nearing the track,
he puts it away and that's the capper on what
was just in awesome way for the Mariners to open
up this.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Lengthy homestand Logan Evans his arrival tonight.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
All right. That was Aaron Goldsmith from Root Sports on
the call last night. And the Mariners do what they
gotta do, take care of a trash team like the
Washington Nationals. I should call him the Washington Trationals because
they are trash. They're absolute, total garbage. But that's what
you gotta do. You got to take care of the
bad teams. One hundred and sixty two game season, lost

(01:07):
three out of four to Houston and get back on
the swing of things and cal Raley going deep, not
once but twice, Julio also going yard.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
So the team look good.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
And the thing that I'm gonna take the most out
of last night not just cal Raley being one of
the best home run hitters in baseball and Julio starting
to come on. Hopefully he can be consistency, because that's
the one thing that has evaded him most of his
four year career, consistency. The thing I'm gonna take the

(01:41):
most from last night's win.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Is just.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Logan Evans and have the Mariners now found due to
an eight innings eight innings guy's a rookie dealing nasty, filthy, dirty,
loving it and he only through four strikeouts. Wasn't like
he was mowing down guys. It was just awesome to see.

(02:11):
And I you know, when you talk about this team
and talk about, well, maybe they should go to a
six man rotation. Okay, here's my rotation win healthy Logan Gilbert,
George Kirby, Louis Castillo. Actually, let me back that up

(02:32):
in order. Based on this season, I'm always gonna go
with the ace, Logan Gilbert. Then I'm gonna go with
Louis Castillo because he's been a number one, And then
I'm gonna go Brian Wu. Now I could go Brian
Wu as the second starter, subject to change. Then I'm
gonna go Kirby then I'm gonna go Emerson Hancock. And
then if you want to go with a six starter,

(02:53):
I'm gonna go Logan Evans and keep Bryce Miller on
the il as long as possible. Logan Evans, this kid's
got something. He's imposing. He's tall, he's you know, we
haven't seen him. You know, he's not one of those
guys that's just basically gonna gonna go in there and
you know, just mow down guys the way Max Scherzer
and Justin Verlander did in his early his career.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Maybe he will be that.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
But you go eight innings in this day and age,
and granted he kept his pitch count down and that's
why he went eight innings last night, So eighty eight
pitches through eight innings and he was just you know,
getting guys contact and getting them out and you know,
getting some help from his friends and in the field,

(03:39):
and it was it was nice to see. But I
am utterly impressed with Logan Evans. This guy can only
and will only get better. So that's scary to see.
So that the Marriagers have an embarrassment of riches when
it comes to pitching. So if the deadline comes around,
and they're looking for another bat or whatever you know

(04:02):
that you are. I mean, you've got enough. I've lost
faith in Bryce Miller for some reason. I think he's
going through a mental tough stage in his career that
he just can't quite put it together. I mean, Logan Evans,
he's gonna turn twenty four next week on Thursday, June fifth,

(04:26):
twenty four years old. So this like, it's like I said,
it's an embarrassment of riches. And then you also not
just the pitching side. You got Cole Young, Lazaro Montes,
and so many guys down there in the miners that
are in that farm system. That kudos to Girard. He's
done the right thing. He's his talent evaluation when it

(04:52):
comes to drafting has been rather impeccable. I give credit
where credit is due, but I also criticize when it's
due as well. But for me, Logan Evans, I'm keep
him up right now. I'm gonna prolong Bryce Miller's stint
on the il, and I'm gonna keep Logan Evans up

(05:15):
in the big show. That's just me I've seen. Yeah,
he got rattled early, right, which you expect. Guy.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Kind of you know, I remember one of his starts.
It was.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
It wasn't like he got sheld or anything, but it
was the game against Toronto where it was at home
a couple of weeks ago, and he gave up three
earned runs and five innings. But since then, six innings
against San Diego, no earn runs. That's the game it was.
Never mind it was last week against the White Sox.
He had a bad outing. That's what it was. Six innings,

(05:51):
four and runs. But other than that, you know, he's
been rather reliable, which is something that you need. And
so far, I don't know, what do you think would
you keep Logan Evans in this rotation over Bryce Miller
four nine five one on the Free Agent text line.

(06:12):
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he does. He'll make sure that does not get through
on the air.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
But you can. I just for me last night, the
thing I took.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I don't take as much win over the trationals because
they're they're just bad, you know, what I mean, like,
they're just a team that. I mean, this team at
one point had Bryce Harper, at one point, they'd Steven Strausberg,
at one point they Hadjan Soto, right, I mean, they

(06:56):
were just they were them. They were them. And like
the late great John Wooden one said, UCLA, a lot
of teams have won one in a row, And we
found that out this year with the Boston Celtics, a
lot of teams have won one in a row. You're
a one hit wonder, right, You're a one hit wonder.

(07:19):
But boy, has that franchise fallen big time, absolute like
big I mean, they were an absolute wagon at one
point and then they weren't, and then things kind of
Anthony Wren doone, Victor Robless, current Mariner, he was on
that team. Yeah, they were awesome, Trey Turner. They were

(07:43):
one of those teams men that you just saw and
you're like, Wow, this team's gonna be good forever. And
then they weren't. And then that was it. It was
like they got their one and they were done after that.
And the weird thing about that is that Bryce Harper
wasn't be on that team.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
He was gone already.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
He took the big money from Philadelphia prior to that season,
So that was the uh. I mean, yeah, they were nasty, man,
they were. Patrick Corbin was a pitcher on that team.
I mean they were. They had it going for a
little bit. So the key is you want to keep
it going long term. And then it was just and
they beat the They beat the Astros.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
In that World Series. What was it twenty nineteen, six
years ago?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Six years ago? Oh, my lord's time flying right now.
But I'm all about Logan Evans. I want him to
stay up here. I'm not a fan right now. I
just think that Bryce Miller, whether it's mentally, whether it's physically,
whether it's a combination of both, I just think he's
shot right now at this point. Not saying he can't

(08:49):
turn it around, but I'm gonna go with the kid
right now. I'm gonna go with the kid. That's been
absolutely fantastic all season long. And I'm looking at, you know,
quality starts this year, Bryce Miller eight starts zero, quality
starts zero, So you don't you know that's that's a

(09:13):
large enough sample size for me to say I'm good.
I'm gonna stick with the kid for a little bit.
But Logan Evans. Man, he was awesome last night. And
I remember as watching the game, he was like, through
you know, four innings, you only throw about thirty four
pitches or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
It was, like, whoa keeps this up?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Man, It's gonna go a little bit going eight innings
in today's day and age for a kid that's gonna
turn twenty four next week.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I mean, that's that's incredible, man. So they found something.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I'm gonna give Gerard to Poto credit and a lot
of things, some of the things that he's done this
year calling up guys Ben Williamson, Logan Evans and then
putting him in positions and letting them find their way,
and then not.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Cutting bait.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
And I don't mean cutting bait literally, but not like
all right, you're back to Tacoma. If you have one
bad outing or one bad game. No, let these guys
find themselves, because you do that, then you shoot these
guys confidence down. And Evans last night just just unbelievable.
He pitched six innings in his private prior outing. As

(10:28):
we know, that was a win actually against the White
Sox that came back down at the end of that game,
but he gave up four earned runs in that game,
and the and then the one game that he pitched
in Texas, he gave up six runs, but only one
of them were earned, so one of them was an

(10:48):
earned run. The other five were not. So the kid's
been great. Two point eight three ERA one two six whip.
He's got it. You can see it. He's got it.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
And he doesn't have.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Just blow by you stuff, you know, like that kind
of picture where he's just going out there one o
two one oh three on the gun. No, no, he's
not that. So if he's able to find his location
and his pitches now where he doesn't have that because
a lot of pictures we've seen it time and time
again where these guys, whether it was Barry Zito or

(11:24):
Tim Lincecum, and they've got this stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
And Tim linccum was a rail.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I mean, dude was like a buck fifty two with
you know, two forties in his pockets, soaking wet.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
But he had nasty stuff, and then when it went away.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
It was sort of like it was tough for him
to be able to be the picture that he was
when he had his nasty stuff, winning i think three
World Series with the Giants, so Logan.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Evan's been good.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
So I heard a song today on my way into work.
You know me, I'm gonna I'll always ask you guys questions.
And I wish I asked you guys a question before
I made my walk down at Denny Blaine Park the
other day. But that's neither here nor there. But I'm
gonna ask you questions. It's a lot of you guys
a little bit older out there, a little older than
Christopher Kidd. I'm fascinated by the early to mid nineties

(12:20):
Seattle grunge sound movement, which.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Was a revolution.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
And I know a lot of you get on me
because I do like Angel Reese, I think, and I'm
not gonna get into an Angel Reese discussion here. I
think she needs to get her game up to speed.
I think her game is sorely lacking, and the other
stuff is becoming more of a new Store than that. Anyway,
we're not going there. I like Angel Reese, suem Me.

(12:46):
I also like kateln Clark.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I can like both.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
It's okay, you know, it's not the end of the world.
But you know how I feel about Kirk Cobay and
I went to visit his house the other day and
the bench and I was out there, took a picture
out there and live with Kirk Cobain in his house.
That was his wife, Courtney Love. So on the way
in today, I heard a song by Courtney Love's band

(13:14):
Whole called Doll Parts, and it just got me thinking, like,
I know everybody here, or at least I think a
lot of people here really had and I want to
believe everybody here did love Kirk Cobain. Some of the
people on the text line said, no, Seattle, they didn't
really love him because he was kind of he was eccentric,

(13:37):
He was, you know, quirky. He was just a great
artists are like that. Yeah, and maybe he wasn't the
friendliest guy when he became he blew up and became
famous or whatever, but you can't take away from the
work the work that he put in. He started an
entire movement revolution. So I'm asking you out there, and

(13:59):
you can again. You can chime in on the text
line the free Agent text line at four nine four
five one, or on the voice text line at the
new and improved iHeartRadio app and ninety three three KGr
microphone icon button. How did you think what did you
think about Courtney Love back in the day. Now, I
know she gets blamed for a lot. I know a
lot of people blamed her for Kurt's death, not that

(14:22):
she was directly responsible with people just you know, but
what did you think of her? Because I thought she
was extremely talented and I loved her group whole.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I thought they were very underrated and I love their music.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
So I'm asking you, Seattle spent some of the guys
out there in their forties, maybe fifties or sixties that
you remember Courtney Love.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
How did Seattle?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I bet you Seattle probably hated her when Kurt Cobain,
you know, took his own life, I would imagine they did,
and they blamed her for it. But I mean, she
she was part of the Seattle Sound for a while.
She was, and I heard that today, I'm like, oh,
there's another reminder of the nineties Seattle Sound, you know.

(15:05):
So there we go. But I'll say is this. I
was a Courtney Love fan.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I was.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I still am to a certain extent. I know she's
you know what. I'm happy about that.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Now.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
By the way, I do know what Temple of the
Dog is. Say hello to Heaven, Thank you very much. Listen,
I followed that scene. That scene was the biggest music influence,
along with the early nineties rap Public Enemy, NWA, NAS
Outcast Tribe, Call Quest, Eric b and Ruckkim E forty,

(15:41):
I could go on and on a KRS one I fucked.
Those were the most impressionable parts of my adolescence growing up,
the early nineties rap era and the early nineties Seattle
alternative grun scene. I'm very familiar with Temple the Dog.
Matter of fact, I had that scene. I did say

(16:02):
Hello to Heaven. I had that. I loved Temple the Dog.
But I'm asking you specifically about Courtney Love.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Last night tough night.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
For the Knicks, and the Knicks got blown away last night.
I mean, I know it was one thirty one to
twenty one, but they just don't have an answer. And
get ready, if you guys hate the NBA, well then
you'll take some solace. And even though more than like
the Oklahoma City's going to clinch the Western Conference Finals tonight,

(16:34):
that the NBA's ratings will be in the toilet for
the finals because it's going to be Indiana, Okay see,
and true diehard basketball fans like myself will watch, but
probably most casual and maybe the non casual fan who

(16:55):
would normally tune in to see who's playing in the
NBA Finals, they're not going to watch this Indiana, okay.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
S So Pat McAfee.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Was that the game last night, and he was there
to be the hype man for the Pacers, and let's
just say he let New York City and some pretty
famous nick fans have it.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
We got some big place like the big city in
the bi.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Pat McAfee, that's what he does. He's part of the
w W E circus. So he got the crowd hyped up.
What you don't see there.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
At all. What you don't don't see there is that.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
He goes to like kind of fist pound Rick Carlile,
the Pacers coach, and Rick Carlile ignores him as if
he was Leonardo DiCaprio walking by mister chow in La
after a meal, and Pat McAfee's the paparazzi completely no

(18:31):
souldom acted like he wanted nothing to do with that.
He's like, thanks a lot, probably say to myself, you
just made my job tougher, you bleephole.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh that was funny. Did you see that kid? When
you watched it.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
I did. He said, let's turn this city up.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh okay, but did you see.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
I did it? It was awkward?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Did you see Rick Carlile just like dude, get away
from me. Carlile is the man man that dude's he
can coach, he can coach. They're about to go to
the NBA Finals, and if the Knicks get it done
tomorrow night, they're just prolonging the inevitable be wrapped up
on Saturday in Indianapolis, it's over. It is a rap.

(19:17):
And I'll tell you man, the Pacers are dangerous.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
They are legit.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I'm not saying they're gonna beat OKAC, but oh boy,
if they come to play the way they have against
the Knicks, that's gonna be a tough, tough series. Also,
one thing last night, one financial interest that I do
have going that's going very well for me right now.

(19:43):
I bet a futures on the Edmonton Oilers prior to
the playoffs to win the Western Conference and to win
the Stanley Cup. They are one win away from winning
the Western Conference and they are five wins away from
winning the Stanley Up.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
So there's that.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Also, congratulations to Cassie Ventura who gave birth to her
third baby days after testifying in the Diddy trial. So
congratulations to Cassie on her third child. On that one,
we get a lot here in the first thing. We
did a lot here. But how about Timothy Shallow May
He got the loudest booze of anyone. I mean, y'all

(20:26):
like Hayton, the guy who played Bob Dylan, and you know, like,
I mean, yeah, Spike Lee, you know he's gonna get booed,
and Ben Stiller, okay, but then Timothy Shallow may Man.
Any got no love for Timothy shallow May. Wow, holy crab,
that was nasty. That Pat McAfee's on fire right now.
Who's who's living a better life than that guy? He

(20:49):
is doing it all right. This guy's been compared to
Cam Chancellor. But is he ready for it? And how
will this see use him? Well, they use him the
way that Dan Quinn and oh my, my main man,

(21:10):
Gus Bradley, the way that they use Cam Chancellor. That's big,
big time comp find out next MJ in the midday
Sports Radio ninety three to three KJRFM. You know, all right,
tell MJ that Kirk Obain did not create the Seattle Sound.
He was very talented. Nirvana Bleue opened some Doors, what

(21:31):
a blast. But the Seattle sound started back in the
sixties with the Sonics and others. Even during the eighties
and nineties, there were bands that preceded Nirvana, Green River,
Mother Love Bone, Dig a Little More. It's a deep hole.
You'll enjoy the ride. I like the whole reference.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I do.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
I will even go you further. Oh no, I know
the Seattle sound. I you know, you go with the commercial.
But there were the fastbacks, the Monoman Blood Circus, Mud Honey.
You mentioned Mother Love Bone, Screaming, the Melvins, Coffin Break,
New Age, Urban Squoreirls, Girl Trouble, Gashaffer, Pure Joy, the Accused.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean, it's a.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Ton of them, Skinyard Red Dress. So I've done my homework.
Don't worry about me. I've done. I've done my homework
on that a lot of you. Someone said there was
a band that was literally a local band here in
Seattle that was called Courtney killed Kurt.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
So I didn't know that. Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
From the two IHO six Kurt's death, it was totally unusual.
You have a heroin attic choosing a shotgun over his
addiction as a way to go out. I definitely think
she had a hand in it somewhere. Yeah, you're not
the only one. A lot of people did the word
on the streets that Kurt wrote the songs for Courtney.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that he probably did. He probably did.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
But she was talented, man, she you know, she was
pretty good as an artist. And yeah, maybe you know
her husband that rubbed off on her, and he probably did.
He might have wrote all the songs for who knows,
But there was a time and there was a place,
and she's very polarizing, there's no question about it. I'm
just glad that their daughter grew up to become normal

(23:09):
because I can't even imagine what that must have been like,
having your dad being Kurt Cobain and and him dying
at such a young age when she was like, I
don't know, less than one, and then your mom being
Courtney Love, and she turned out to be great. So
I'm happy for Francis being Cobain. I'm just fascinated by
that whole era. And I don't mean whole as in
Courtney Love's band. I just mean that entire era of Seattle.

(23:33):
I always want to learn more about it. So any
anecdotal stories you have injected all my veins, I'm here
for all of it. I want to hear all of it. Anything.
Any maybe you ran into to Dave Grohl when he
was the drummer of Nirvana one time back in the
day or something like that.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I love to hear all that.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Well, how about this, Nick emm and Worry, the Seahawks
second first second round pick, thirty fifth overall out of
South Carolina is getting some major, major comparisons. People like
Kyle Hamilton naturally played for Mike McDonald in his scheme
in Baltimore when Mike McDonald was the DC. There Derwin

(24:18):
James Chargers, and of course Cam Chancellor. Em and Worry
came out and said, quote, I love those expectations, but
of course I'm gonna make my own imprint on the league.
And then this is the part that every Hawks fan
has to love more than anything. We're looking to recreate

(24:41):
the legion of Boom, especially if I can fit in
with the Cam Chancellor type of role.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
You love someone who has an appreciation of history. And
it wasn't that long ago recent history, but also the
fact that he says we're going to recreate We're looking now,
we're going to We're looking. There's a fine line. We're
looking to recreate the legion of boom, especially if I

(25:15):
can fit in with the Cam Chancellor type of role.
But yet I also like how he says I got
to make my own imprint on the league. So someone
basically saying that, let's you know, nick Emmon Warri ends
up becoming that guy, and then people start comparing future
safeties who are going to be drafted for years to come, saying, oh, he.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Could be the next Emin Warry. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Uh. On draft night, he used the word dogs to
describe his teammates Julian Love, Kobe Bryant, Reek Woollen, and
Devin Witherspoon. So all in all, that's going to be
the strongest unit on this team.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think everybody. Everybody can see that.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
And I mean, that's just And he spoke they spoke
with Toring Gray, who was Chancellor's defensive backs coach at
Virginia Tech, and he said recently on this station ninety
three to three kJ R f M, you're getting a

(26:18):
generational type guy as far as a body type.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's a different breed. Love to hear that, love to
hear it. It's you know, obviously.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Em and Worry had two rookie mini camp practices earlier
this month. So whether he's going to be that, you know,
true safety or kind of I would use him as
a hybrid They're they're looking at is he going to
be the true box safety, you're a big nickel defender.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'd use him a little bit of both.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
And I think he's the type of guy that can
go sideline the sideline and and you know, chase down
the run if he needs to.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
So that to me is going to be good.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
And what does he bring in terms of pre snap
adjustments and when he can notice things on defense and
be able to say, you know, call out of a
play call that is you know, given by Mike McDonald,
say oh no, they're going to do this. It's a run.
It's a run, you know something like that. You know,
like he's got a high football IQ. And if i'm if,

(27:24):
I think the strongest unit in all of Seattle sports
would be the Mariner's starting rotation when healthy. But I
think the Seahawks secondary when healthy's not that far behind.
Kid I mean they have a chance to be great.

(27:46):
We need willing to kind of, you know, have a
little bit of a bounce back year. Didn't have a
good year last year.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Just be good.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
We don't need you to be leading, right, I see
what you're saying, because then you I set yourself in
assign if you're not the Legion of Boom.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
We saw what happened in twenty seventeen when they drafted.
They tried the two point er Legion of Boom, and
that just did not work. Yeah, Mike Tyson at safety,
it was a lot and they that's what they wanted,
Legion of Boom. Two point oh, that's the standard they'd
set for themselves, and they did not live up to
that by even a mile. It was just it didn't

(28:25):
last long. Those guys were out of the league pretty quickly.
Shaquille Griffin was the only one that actually made somewhat
of a difference, and then ultimately they didn't bring him back.
We signed him obviously, but let's not put too much
around the Legion of Boom because that was something that was.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That was one cell left time.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, I don't know if that was one of the
best defenses of all time.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
That's what we're talking about here we are. So let's
not think, oh yeah, I can just redo it now.
They can be a very good defense.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
That's fair.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
But I don't want to put that expectation of Legion
of Boom because if they're gonna get to that standard,
which I don't think they will.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, exactly. That was just a perfect storm right there.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Yeah, and that's okay, that's fine, that's great, right, that's
something that fans can always look back to, like, look
how dominant this defense was in the Super Bowl. The
best defense versus the best offense, and the best defense
took them to school.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Oh it's bad. Should have been shutout? Should you know?
But here's but that's fine. They got their cosmetic like
back door touchdown which didn't mean anything, but it should
have been a shutout.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Now, I hear you that.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
I'm not wrong.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
It have been a shutout, But I think it was
sweet just seeing how the moral lie they looked.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Oh it was awesome.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
I know, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
That was a Madden cheat code offense, Denver, it was
a cheat code offense. Eric Decker Welker de Mary's Thomas
the Late Great. He was on that team they were
cheat code and the lead and that whole defense, and
everyone's gonna go Lesion Boom, but the entire defense. I'm
Michael Bennett April. Those dudes were real quick.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
So yeah, here's the Seahawks draft Class two point zero
Legion of Boom.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Oh. I know you're gonna say lan o'hillano'hill, Yes, yes,
I remember.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
I did not work Tedrick Thompson safety Mike Mike Tyson
not a Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, just did not know.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
Yeah, you're right, so I don't want to put that.
He puts it up. That's fine, right, and I understand
where he's going with it. But that was what they did.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
That's very tough to do and that's the reason why
it hasn't been done again.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
And that's why you don't hear even around the league.
You're not hearing when when the Patriots took Drake May
last year with the third pick after Jaden Daniels was
taken by the Commanders, No one's gonna be stupid enough
to compare him to Tom Brady because there's not going
to be another Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
There was only one. He's one of one. The Legion
of Boom were one of one. That's it period maybe
you know, arguably or inarguably the greatest secondary in NFL history.
And my issue and I noticed this prior to coming
to Seattle, when you mentioned the best defenses in NFL history.

(31:07):
For some reason, the twenty thirteen Seahawks doesn't get mentioned
like it should with the eighty five Bears, the two
thousand Baltimore Ravens, the two thousand and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and I think it will in time.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
The thing about the Bucks is this, they had sap
Lynch Brooks, a Rendez, Barber, four Hall of famers, and
then pretty soon they're saying, Simmey and Rice might get
in that I'll be five. So how many Hall of
famers do you think come from the legion of Boom
two Sherman Earl Thomas are just that defense period?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But two?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Two? Maybe three? And now that's two. Probably two.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
You say, go to the Hall of fame, go to
the Hall of fame. Bobby, Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're right, no, no defense, you're right. Oh Bobby Wagner first ballot,
no doubt. So probably three of them, three of them,
all right? So that's yeah, you you know, you get
that's where you start to get the recognition of like
one of the greatest defense. But I always noticed that
that they never mentioned twenty thirteen Seattle.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
They mentioned oh to Tampa, they mentioned two thousand Baltimore,
they mentioned eighty five Bears. They'll even go back to
the grit splitz of the Falcons in the in the
seventies that didn't win anything. But or of course the
Steel Curtain, Steel Curtain, I mean, come on, come on,
arguably that was the first greatest defense of all time.
I mean that defense. I don't know how many Hall

(32:38):
of famers there, mean, Joe Green, now Blunt Jack, Lambert
Jack Ham. So but for some reason, you gotta give
the twenty thirteen Seahawks there just due all right? Coming
up next, Oh boy, somebody's somebody's got some shade on
one of the best players in the league and saying

(32:59):
he needs to get his ish straight. We'll tell you
and what he said next on hitting the all fields
MJ in the midday. Oh and by the way, coming
up at the top of the hour, Matt Barrows from
the Athletic will join us. We're gonna talk about the
Seahawks NFC West Divisional rival the San Francisco forty nine Ers,
and Steve Phillips, former Major League Baseball general manager, will

(33:20):
join us at the top of the noon hour Don't
Go Anywhere on MJ in the midday Sports Radio ninety
three to three kJ R FM. All Right, and Man,

(33:41):
Anthony Edwards has been, let's just say, less than stellar.
And I'm being nice here in some of the playoff games,
especially in this series against Oklahoma City. I expected more
out of him. And I don't know, I understand you
not wanting to be the face of the NBA. You
don't want that responsibility because you're walking on eggshells and

(34:02):
you can't even jaywalk to somebody basically saying, oh my god,
what's wrong with this guy? But in these playoffs, man,
he's been garbage in some games, absolute trash. And the
other night was one of those games. His teammates were great,
Dante DiVincenzo and Nikhil Alexander Walker combined for sixteen of

(34:24):
twenty six from three point range. Ant Man was one
of seven sixteen points. Game one, he was five of
thirteen for eighteen points. Just didn't have it, just did
not have it. And now he's on the road tonight
as the Thunder try to close out the Wolves and

(34:45):
Big Perk Kendrick Perkins on first take did not pull
any punches on ant Man.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
This is the bigger picture, right, You gotta take the
boxes when you're the face of the league. Yes, we
know you got to have your signature. Shoot, you're gonna
be in commercials, You're gonna put you're gonna have the highlights.
You gotta have the game. But you know what else
you gotta have. You gotta be a role model, right,
and things outside the lines matter.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now, if you go down.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
The list of all the faces of the league in
the history of the game, you look at Larry Bird,
Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq Lebron Steph. What
did they all have in coming while they was playing
in the league. They all were family men. They all

(35:35):
were married with kids. And if you think that don't
play a role. As far as the role model, this
is facts. This is not something that I'm thinking, hold on,
But this is not something that I'm making up.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
What happened, what happened to them after they retired, that's
their business. But while they are playing on what's playing?
They were family men, married with kids.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Yeah, I'm with Steven, and I know he about this.
I don't know what he's going to say. But Magic
Johnson had to retire because he was the horniest man
in the league.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
I'm with you. I don't Here's the thing. I don't
think ant Man not being married has anything to do
with his bad games.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
No, not even that, but it basically the league Conversation's like, Bro,
Michael Jordan was a gambling addict and the league that's
what was a reason. Yeah, I don't know, to spend
it for a whole season, right right, exactly.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Exactly like Kendrick that's yeah, you know you want to
die on Bro.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
No, No, I don't think so. I'm with you. I
don't like ant Man could go out, dude.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
This dude can go out and be I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio,
the NBA had twenty three years old.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
He's gonna be twenty four in August.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
He could go out be Leo, you know, and you
could go and date as many you know, dimes and
eleven's that you want to date.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
That has nothing to do.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'm well, I don't understand And here's here's my issue
with ant man and I love the guy. Game one
eighteen points, five of thirteen. WTF. Game two thirty two points,
Game three, thirty points.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Game four.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
One of seven from three point range, five of thirteen
again for sixteen points. Oh, by the way, in Game
one he had zero points in the fourth quarter. That's
my issue. I'm gonna keep it on the court, Perk.
He's too great. He's too great to be having zero
points in the fourth freaking quarter. He's Anthony freaking Edwards.

(37:30):
This dude is him. He's got the ability to drop
thirty forty any night.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Do you know who was the best statistical three point
shooter in the NBA in the regular season?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Anthony Edwards?

Speaker 6 (37:42):
He was that guy.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
So him, you know, shooting eighteen.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
And sixteen points in games one and four.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's inexcusable.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Doesn't have anything to do with personally. Come on, Perk,
don't don't get listen. You want to get on a soapbox, Fine,
don't be the get off old, get off my lawn guy.
Don't be that guy. Let the man live. The man
wants to do whatever he wants to do. I don't
care if he films homemade pornos behind closed doors in
his personal time. Just score more than sixteen points in

(38:13):
game four. That's all I care about. Because you're too great.
You are too great. We're not talking about you, know,
Ben Shephard. We're talking about ant Man, ant Man. Okay,
all right? Coming up next, know your enemy. The San
Francisco forty nine ers have made a lot of changes
this year. Not as many as the Seahawks, but a lot.
We will talk about them and where they rank in

(38:33):
the West. Next with Matt Barrows from The Athletic on
MJ in the midday Sports Radio ninety three to three
KJR FM.
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