June 17, 2025 • 37 mins
David Dwork covers the Florida Panthers for the Hockey News, he gives us some insight on how the Florida Panthers got here, why can't anyone duplicate what the Panthers are doing, and much more. Gregg and Christopher also play audio from Abe Lucas regarding the Seahawks offensive line. We also revisit the news around college sports.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joined us right after quick run through headlines brought to
you by Frostby records like Choose Chill. Just after we
thought the Mariners might be back on track after sweeping Cleveland,
they go down and down hard last night to Boston
at home, two nothing, striking out fifteen times, leaving the
entire roster on base, including bases loaded, nobody out, not scoring,
with three whiffs, two men on, nobody out, wiff foul out.
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That was in the eighth inning. Logan Gilbert's start, first return,
first starts since April twenty fifth, ten strikeouts, eight of
them swinging in just five innings eighty four pitches. But
he gave up a solo home run and first inning,
and that was all the Red Sox needed to win
their six straight games. The trash Cans also lost those
down against the A's and Sacramento, so the Mariners are
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still four and a half back in the American League West.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Games five of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Last night, the Oklahoma City Thunder beat Indiana one twenty
to one oh nine. Tyrese Haliburton is hurt. He didn't
make a shot for Indiana last night. They're in trouble.
They're coming home Game six in Indianapolis on Thursday night,
with the Thunder trying to win its first franchise NBA championship.
Game six of the Stanley Cup Finals is tonight in Sunrise, Florida.
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The Florida Panthers are home with a chance to close
out the Edmonton Oilers and win the Stanley Cup for
the second consecutive.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Season over the Edmonton.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Edmonton trying to force a Game seven by winning tonight
in Florida. They won Game four in Florida and then
lost at home when the Panthers beat him rather soundly
on Saturday. David Dwark has been covering this series for
the last couple of years now. He joined US last
year and the Beacon Plumbing Hotline during the Stanley Cup Finals.
He joins US again from South Florida in the same situation.
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Chance to win the Stanley Cup back to back for Florida. David,
it's great to talk to you again. Thanks for being on.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh happy to be back on.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You wrote that tonight is the Panthers opportunity to do
something that's kind of rare, right, What is that?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh? Just not just winning back to back Stanley Cuffs
to win both series on home ice. Ironically, the last
team to do that was the Oilers back in the
late eighties I believe it was. And even back then
it was only because there was like a power outage
in Boston right back to Edmonton. But the last time
it happened before that without any you know, external changes,
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was the Oilers back at their first two Stanley Cups
in eighty four eighty five. So we're talking almost forty
years since the team has won back to back Cups
on home ice. And as we've seen this series, if
the Panthers are going to do that, they're going to
have to earn it, because these have been so far
five really good hockey games.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They have been fantastic.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
If you haven't watched it Stanley Cup Finals until now,
you are wrong and you can right yourself by watching
tonight's game, which is it just after five o'clock Seattle time. So, David,
how did the Panthers get here? Can you give us
a big maybe the biggest reasons why the Panthers are
on the cusp but doing it again?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I mean, you can start with Paul Maurice and his coaching,
defensive coaching systems that he's been implemented, over the last
three years. Florida does a five man defensive game and
a tight four check that really nobody else in the
league does these days, and they do it kind of
ad nauseum, just in your face, over and over again.
They tire teams out. They've got a full roster, a
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deep roster of players that have bought in, They put
in the work, they respect one another when they come
to the rink, and it's really just a great situation
that they've built here. And I know I started off
by saying Paul Maurice, but really Bills Edo the DM.
He's put this team together over the last five years
since he got hired back in twenty twenty, and obviously
he's built himself a championship team. So there's that. There's
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the fact that they've been able to stay pretty healthy
over their playoff run. You know, they've had a couple
nicks and bruises here and there, but nobody's had to
miss any extended time. Their stars are all playing well,
and even Matki Couchuck, who we know is not one
hundred percent, he's playing in a very positively impacting the
game type of way. So Ford has been very fortunate
there and then obviously you always have to go back
to the goaltending. They've got a world class goaltender and
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started over Roski, who has been incredibly consistent for them
over the last several postseasons, and this year's been no different,
even in a Stilly Cup final where we've seen so
many goals scored over the course of the series that
you could argue that the goaltending itself has been pretty solid,
and Sergei Lebrowski certainly has fallen under his usual solid game.
So there's a lot of reasons why Florida's as good
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as they are, but I'd say those are probably the
top ones.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
This pinching on the boards and coming. This is David
Work again talking to us from South Florida. He's the
hockey news beat writer for the Florida Panthers, also in
WFLD down in South Florida on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline
here on ninety three point three KJFM. You mentioned the
pitching and the boards and the way they play defense,
and they're constantly pressing and constantly pressing, not letting you
get out of your own zone. Why do you I
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covered the Seahawks for a living in the NFL, it's
a copycat league. As soon as something works and somebody
wins the Super Bowl with it, everybody else in the
league copies it schematically. Why do you think the NHL
no one's been able to duplicate what Florida does?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The personnel, is it, how Maurice coaches it, and the
x's and those of it? Why do you think Florida
seems to be head and shoulders above everybody else playing
that way?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, it's not as simple as just like replicating a
playbook and just going out there running similar routes. The
physical demand and told that it puts on a body
to play this style. It's exhausting physically, it's exhausting mentally
because you have to be aware of where everybody else
is on the ice at all times in order to
properly be in the right position not get caught out.
It's very difficult. I don't know if other teams have
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tried to over the last few years and just not
been able to do it, or if they just simply
don't want to overhaul their entire systems and personnel in
order to play this style. Because even if the coach
decided next training camp like, Hey, I want to do this.
I want to be like what the Panthers are. You've
got to make sure you've got the players that are
willing to put in that kind of physical effort and
toll on their body to play it that way, the
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cardio that it takes to be in that kind of
shape to go out there. I mean, you know, hockey
shift in general, you're going to be giving it everything
you have over the course of like ninety seconds or so.
But in this particular system, it's just non stop. And yeah,
they say that this is the Panthers are playing playoff
type hockeys is how used to play during the postseason.
But to see them do it, you know, for eighty
two games during the regular season, then carry it over
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now three straight postseasons that go all the way to
the Stanley Cup Final, I'd be very interested and intrigued
to find another team that would be able to really
try to do what Florida's done, because the reason that
no one else is doing it and no one else
has done it over the last you know, thirty some years,
is just because of how difficult it is. And it's
a testament to what a perfect storm situation they've built
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here in Florida between you know, starting with Zito and
Maurice and the players that they've added to this roster
over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The Panthers owner in vincent Iola is a West Point graduate,
so they should be relentless and they should be having
a good cardio and everything else is David go Army
beat Navy.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is David Work.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He's from South Florida and he's the hockey news beat
writer for the Florida Panthers On ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
David, is this series turning into a legacy defining moment
for Barkov or Connor McDavid, depending on who comes out
on top.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Maybe more so for McDavid if he is able to
complete the comeback and win his first Stanley Cup. Has
been you know, eluding him as the world's best hockey
player over the last you know, decade or since he
came into the league. For Barkov, he he's more, I
don't want to say, behind the scenes kind of guy.
But for so many of the things that Barkov does
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well that are so crucial to the Panthers, he doesn't
really get the kind of recognition that you would get
if he was out there scoring, you know, a goal
or two every game, putting up those big offensive highlights. Really,
you could kind of point to Barkov and the way
that he's been able to almost mitigate McDavid and keep
him from becoming the superstar that I think many expected
to see during this final. So I would say in
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terms of a legacy, I mean Barkov, you know, becoming
the first Finish captain to rate to be handed the
Stanley Cup first last season was pretty big for him
in his career. I think this year it's more about
the Connor McDavid potentially finally getting his if uilers are
able to make a comeback, where you look at a
guy on the Panthers like Brad Marshawn, who you know,
obviously got a tough in his first year, the first
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full year in the NHL back in twenty eleven, but
we've been able to kind of take over the series,
do some of the things that we expected to see
Conor McDavid do in terms of scoring some highlight goals
and taking games over it. And it's been pretty silly
or serious, pretty interesting to see it play out that way.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Got you.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And then if I'm not mistaken, with three of the
five games going into overtime and only two home wins,
what is the what would you say is the biggest
factor in this series defining that home ice advantage.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's interesting how that hasn't really played a huge part.
I think with that you have to almost point to
Florida and just how they've been such a dominant routine
throughout this postseason, setting records for scoring. I think they've
tied a record for road wins. It's been really cool
to see how they've just not let that bother them.
We've seen over the last few years, like they really
embrace stuff already on the road, getting out into you know,
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the road situations where you're just to keep the whole
time team dinners, poker games and all that stuff, Like
they really embrace that and enjoy it. And it's the
way this series has played out. I mean, as you said,
we've had three of the five games go to overtime,
the Oilers winning two of them. Their only wins in
the series have come in overtime. The two non close
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games in the series where Florida you know, played their
argub best hockey of the series and was able to
get to their game and really bought the Oilers down.
I mean, particularly in Game five. The shots on goal
were so low for Edmonton compared to the rest of
the series, particularly on home mice, but they've been so good,
so I think the big key for Florida will be
to try to continue to do what they've done in
two of the last three games of this series and
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control the physicality, control the shot totals, and limit Edmonton's
rush opportunities, which has been arguably the biggest thing in
this series, just because the Oilers bread and butter is
creating those high danger chances and Florida's done a really
good job of slowing them down coming out of their
their own zone and through the neutral zone and king
away their speed.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Mentioned Panthers on there ivingk Sam Bennett's but sixteen goals
in the plass and fourteen of them are on the road,
something like that. He's been fantastic in Edmonton in this series.
You mentioned Brad Marshan David, what has he made a
difference and since he arrived in Boston in the trade,
what has he given them? We see him chirping and
getting under people's skin and joshing guys before the face
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off and just being a pest.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But man, he's so much more than just that.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, it's been pretty incredible to get to know him
over the last couple of months and to watch him
and dear himself, not just to coach and his teammates,
but to really the hockey fans. Not just in South Florida,
but I think a lot of people are seeing a
different side of Brad marsha on And it's been interesting
because you mentioned so many of the things that you
know he brings to the table, the physicality, the chirping,
and obviously high end offensive abilities. But what's been really
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interesting is the positivity he's had, the impact he's had
on his teammates both on and off the ice. Hearing
Paul Maurice talk about some of the things he's learned
about Brad marsham him on the bench. The way that
he's constantly is palm Maurice put it, pumping the tires
of his teammates, pumping them full of positive energy, telling
them about good things they did on the ice, places
they do. The impact there is really something that I
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don't think a lot of us saw coming, but the
way that he's been able to lift up so many
of his teammates well, obviously still being incredibly impactful himself.
It's been pretty cool to see over the last couple
of months.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You mentioned Paul Maurice.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He fascinates me when I listened to him in press
conference as a beat writer. How he deals with the media,
how he sometimes chides and oh I'm not falling for
that one and not giving what bulletin board material for
the opponent, and those kind of things. Has can you
take us back to, first of all, the Panthers hiring him,
but how do he change the culture himself? You mentioned
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Zito and the general manager bringing in the players, but
what is Paul Maurice like on a daily basis?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
How has he shaped this team? How much of their
success is due to him?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
No? I think you know, you could argue a a
very large part of it. You know, Paul Maurice changing
the systems when he arrived. He jokes about it that
he got here. When he arrived, he to a President's
Trophy winning team that led the league in goals, and
then he went and screwed it up and they barely
speak into the playoffs the next year, so he's kind
of since day one, he's been tongue in cheek. But
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it was a perfect situation just because he you know,
the personality that he has, and he's the kind of
coach that is more than happy to let his players
kind of run themselves a little bit and give them
the responsibilities so that way they can feel that accountability.
When he arrived here in South Florida, you know, I
think two and a half years after Bill Zito had
been hired, and when Zeno got hired, the first moves
he made were to reshape the culture in the locker room.
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He brought in Radcote Dutis, He brought in Patrick Hornquest,
who's still a big part of the team in a
in a hockey opica in general, and you know, wearing
a suit and tie front office role. But it's it's
those kind of moves that had the players starting to
police themselves and holding each other accountable. And then he
bring in pal Maurice, who says, Okay, I'm going to
make you work incredibly hard, but if you buy in,
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the results will be there and nothing but truth in
that regard, because everybody's bought right into. Paul Maurice's systems.
They've had a high end offense before he got here.
He added accountable defense, five man defensive systems, tight gaps,
and it's worked incredibly well. So I think in terms
of a carrot or just looking down the list of
the moves that have been made over the last several years,
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from Zito to Maurice to Kit Chuck, to the smaller
moves like last year bringing in to Kevin Stenlin to
fortify the penalty kill, this year, bringing in guys to
the deadline like Marsha and Seth Jones. Just move after
move that have played off quite well for the Panthers,
all with a collective goal in mind of making the
roster better. A guy like Nico Mikola, whom many of
us have never heard of, has been a specialist, has
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been incredibly good as the defenseman in the system. So
it all kind of ties into what Maurice and Zito
and everybody just working in this incredible synergy here in
Soth Florida.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Navid work from South Florida beat writer for The Hockey
News with Florida Panthers talking on the day of what
the Panther's hope is their Cup clinching game tonight Game
six in South Florida. Paul Maurice was the head coach
at the Toronto Mapley, so he knows how to deal
with the media. That's the Dallas Cowboys of Canadian Sports
and New York Yankees rupped in the one, and he's
been a revelation in South Florida. So let me put
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you on the spot. Chris would normally do this, but
I don't do it about you.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I remember you, Chris. They do it tonight. Do you think,
David or.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Do you think this is going back to edmund for
the longest trip in the NHL for Game seven.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't want to say what I think is going
to happen because I don't want it to happen. Since
the beginning, I thought that this was going to be
a seven game series. The teams have bounced back off
each other pretty well, so it's hard for me to
think that this won't go seven. Florida's got the momentum.
They should win tonight. They're on home ice, but this
is the final. Edmonton has something to say about it,
and they've obviously got a lot of pent up issues
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after losing in seven last year. The way they did.
I don't want to fly back up to Edmonton. Guys.
There's no direct flights.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's not fun.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Last year, but I think that's that's really what hockey
fans and everybody deserves, would be a seven game series.
So I do think Florida would come out on top,
but I think it's going to take seven games to
do it.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
David Dwark enjoy your evening. It's gonna be wild either way.
The Cup is in the building tonight in Sunrise for
the Game six of the Stanley Cup Finals.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Thanks a lot for having it, for being back on.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh you're welcome, guys. I hope I'm wrong, but we'll
talk again too.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
David Dwerk from Southford.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
He's hoping no one in South Florida is listening out
here in Seattle, but we can always post that and
tell him to listen in to right podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You get hear in his voice.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Oh, I really hope this doesn't happen, but it's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
That's like nine hours of flights because as he said,
there are no direct rights. The only people flying direct
are the teams in the broadcasters. So how that works
is they had there was a quick turnaround between games
four and or five and six, they had only one
day off. Most times they've had two days off. But
the teams left that night to fly back to Edmonton
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from Florida between I'm getting this back to yes games
four and five. They left that night to get in
in Edmonton with the time change in their favor two
hours difference and getting in the middle of the night,
and then having all that next day off and then
plan again, and then they get right back on a
plane and go back to South Florida. But they at
least get to go direct on charters. Right, So it's
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about a six hour flight from Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Hey, let's get reporters on that flight. There are some
leagues that do that. They get reporters on league flights.
That's fine. I don't care what it's called.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Just you know, I want to be able to travel
in eight hours one way, not twelve because oh, you're
going to stop here and chill for a minute.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It is the longest trip between two cities in the
NHL in North American sports, from where the Florida Panthers
are in Sunrise, Florida to Edmonton. And it's happened now
two years in a row. And so yeah, people have
those of us in the print media world who don't
get direct flights and charters. That's the world we live in.
But hey, he knows he's getting paid to cover what
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he is. As he said, a fantastic series. If you
have not I watched the Stanley Cup Finals, please do
so tonight. Three of the five games have gone to overtime,
and when they've gone to overtime, the tying goal has
come in the final thirty seconds. It's just a tremendous theater,
the intensity. Tonight, in an elimination game, the Cup will
be in the building. And again, as I always say,
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watch it on CBC Sports Net if you're so lucky
to have cable here in the cbut out of Vancouver
is the CBC outlet in Vancouver. That experience watching it there,
compared to the tnt US broadcast is not even closed.
It's like watching two different sports. Promise me you will
do that if you have the opportunity to, because you
will thank me later. When I went to Ian Furness's
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house for Keefer's graduation party, I was proud to see
that not only was the game on in the living room,
it was on the CBC telecast, of course, and not
TNT the Canadian that Ian Furness is. So that's tonight
just after five o'clock Edmonton at Florida, Game six of
the Stanley Cup Finals, with the Cup in the building
and Florida with a chance to win the second consecutive Cup.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Aby Lucas is healthy, the start right tackle for the Seahawks,
has opinions on how the offense is changing this year.
He had some interesting comments we'll share with you next
on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's a new one, Chris didn't. How about for me
last year, just for you months ago. It sounds like
something from the Beach Boys.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Hi in my head, I said, this is gonna say
Beach Boys, and what do you know?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Nailed it and honor of Brian Wilson and just passed
away in his eighties. A couple of days ago, Greg
Bell the News Tribune filmed in from Mark James Reunited
with Christopher Kid here from ten am to ten am
to one pm all week. Ian fornesss will be up
next to twelve to forty five. He'll join us for
cross talk. We'll read back your text at twelve thirty.
One of the texts was, Hey, I got Comcast cable.
How can I watch the CBC sports Net broadcast tonight
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of Game six of the Stanley Cup Finals. Well, it's
channel ninety nine on most cable systems for Comcast in Infinity.
Please do that, you will. It's so I mentioned yesterday,
the sound quality, the analysis, just how invested they are
and Edmonton especially trying to win Canada back the Cup
for the first time in thirty two years. It means
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more and it's really it comes through in the broadcast
Channel ninety nine. If you have Xfinity Comcast cable, you
can watch that just after five pen night Game six,
the Oilers and Panthers with the Cup in the building
in Sunrise, Florida, with the Panthers a chance to win
for the second straight time. Last week, the Seahawks finished
their mini camp. Their veterans are now done until training
camp begins on July to twenty third. Abe Lucas he's
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a really interesting cat. He's from Washington State and from
Archbasipmitty High School in Mill Creek. He was born in Everett,
Mill Creek and raised there, and he's he's really understated
he has a very dry sense of humor. And someone
asked him what his first impressions were of his new quarterback,
Sam Darnold and Lucas total dead pand Smiles said, well,
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my first impression was in twenty seventeen when he was
at USC and we beat him in Pullman. He remember that, Chris,
what does Friday night game? That's there you go? That
was the Friday night game when Mike Leach's Koog's beat
number five USC in Martin Stadium and ESPN had on
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Sports Center had Mike Leach John immediately after game because
ESPN had broadcast the game, so they had leechs live
on the air as soon as the game ended. You
know how this Sports Center starts right after the game
it ends, and then they go back right back to
Pullman and from the field. They had Mike Leach on
they are live and Neil Everett, the then Sports Center anchor,
Portland Guy, Oregon Northwest native. He asked Leach what the
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scene was like there, what it's like? He said, Well,
Mike Leech said, well, it's like Woodstock, except everybody has
their clothes on.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I always remember him saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Hey, Lucas says, this is as healthy as he's been
since he was at Washington State six years ago. Knee
surgery in January twenty twenty four repaired to pateller tendon.
He told me right after the last season ended in
this past January, the doctors told him it would be
a twelve month full twelve month recovery, which met January
twenty twenty five. Well, he came back to play in
November of twenty twenty four and played the latter six
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games or so on that knee that was still recuperating.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
When I asked him to compare now last week how.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He feels compared to how he felt playing on that
knee last season, he said, quote night and day, and
that speaks well for the Seahawks offensive line and at
right tackle. Here's what Lucas had to say about his
impressions of the new offense, his new offensive line coaches,
his new offensive coordinator, Klint Kubiak, in the outside zone system.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
How could do you think this offensive line could be
this year?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
How are good we want to be? We have the
right coaching, the right tools. The identity has definitely changed
from last year to this year. So it's on us
as far as we want to take it. How was
the identity jam when you get a new staff in, Like,
I mean, everybody wants to run the ball, you know,
but when it kind of you come in and it's
kind of a non negotiable, like we're running the ball,
you know what I mean. We put a fullback in
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the backfield, like we're changing it up, We're doing things differently,
and it's like an old school mentality with a new
school principal sort of thing. So looking forward to getting
after that, do you think.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
That might be the biggest difference for you guys with
the run game, because the last couple of years is
maybe just general commitment to it rather than well, it's
something you just have.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Some balance on that. We're trying to be elite at
very few things, but those few things are what the
offense is going to be based around, and that's the
run game. You know, We're going to be elite at
the run game. Like that's the philosophy with it. It's
not some hodgepodge of just a bunch of different stuff
we're just throwing in, you know what I mean, We're
going to be elite at the basics to make sure
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that they work, so we can do it against anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Hed Lucas is starting right tackle for the Seahawks during
Seahawks Mini camp. We're trying to be elite at very
few things, so it's not a hodgepodge of just a
bunch of different stuff we're throwing it. If I could
crystallize what the difference is between the Seahawks offensive approach
under Klint Kubiak now as to under Ryan Grubb last season,
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it's that they are refining and narrowing their focus. Mike
McDonald thought they were trying to do too much. They
were trying to be all kinds of things on offense. Shotgun,
inside zone, quick pass, deep strikes, play action. Ryan Greb
was trying to give the full University of Washington experience
with the Seahawks. The problem, of course, is he had
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the best offensive line in college football at Washington. He
had one of the worst offensive lines in pro football
at the Seahawks. So it didn't work. So the simplification
of the system is we're running the ball. And you
mentioned him saying kind of a new school feel on
an old school principle. The old school is they are
going full back in two backs. They're going to go
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twelve and twenty two personnel. They're going to go I formations,
student body, right, toss sweeps. I saw it in OTA's
I saw in mini camps, and I mentioned yesterday I
thought I was watching the nineteen seventy eighty USC Trojans
with John Robinson throwing pitches to Charles White. It was
I formation on the first four plays, as if to
tell the defense and the offense both here we are.
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This is the new US. They are going to be
asking the offensive linemen to be better at fewer things,
meaning outside zone, not pull and trap, and sometimes man
blocking and sometimes inside zone and sometimes outside zone that
Scott Huff had him doing last year because he and
Grub were trying to do a little bit of everything
on the offense. Mike McDonald told Clint Kubiak, run the ball.
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That's why he hired him from the Saints.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
This.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
McDonald doesn't care if the entire NFL knows what the
Seahawks want to do, does not care. Last year, the
Sea the Saints that Kubiak's offense ran were in I
formation nearly twenty five percent of the time. Everybody else
in the league not even close to sing digits the Seahawks,
and I can remember a handful of times the entire
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season they had two backs in the backfield, and a
lot of times it was Derek Young or Brady Russell
or A. J. Barner tight ends and wide.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Receivers back there true fullbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They drafted a two hundred and seventy five pounds one
Robbi oots from he was a tight end at Alabama.
They've converted a tight end Brady Russell to full back.
Those two are competing for the fullback job, and they're
going to play one out of every four snaps probably,
And Lady Lucas mentioned that as well. So this is
going to be way different, and it's going to be
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they think simpler, thus better for the offensive line to
master fewer things. They also, as we mentioned yesterday, I
think they have offensive linemen better suited for this that
can move louterly. It's why they drafted Greys Abel and
I mentioned that he was the fastest off the ball
in ot in mini camps. You just watch from a
global take a step back and watch them behind the
end zone thirty forty yards away, and you watch all
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five lineen getting off the ball in scrimmages and he's
by far as Helmet was the first. Want to go
latterly across the line of scrimmage, beating everybody else off
the snap. They want to do outside zone, outside zone,
and then outside zone again. What they will ask with
Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald will ask Sam Donald. Chris
is so different than Gino Smith. They wanted Gino Smith
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to win games by himself with his arm. They didn't
have a run game, he didn't have much pass protection.
They want Sam Donald to do the opposite. They want
Sam Donald to win the game after we've established the run.
I could see them running the ball down two scores
and just still running and still running, and fans booing,
and they go three and out after three runs. I
honestly feel that that Mike McDonald would feel that there
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are some drives worth running the ball three times. That's
how hell bent he is on changing the mentality and
approach of this team. I don't know, Chris, how you feel.
I think the offense will be better simply because it
better fits the personnel they have, including the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But now you were asking Genus Smith to do too much.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, we saw that in the games going back and
watching the tape. And now to your point, it all
starts with the offensive line. I think they have definitely
addressed it. I believe that the left tackle solidified, right tackle,
right guard is where Zillah was going to play correct,
so I think left guard, So I think you have
that locked in. Now was just figuring out the other
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two spots. What's going to work to allow the running
game to be successful because last year we saw that
ken he was, he didn't trust it. There were so
many times where he's doing too much dancing and not
just hitting the hole and the hole is there, So
now he has to readjust and realize, Okay, it's his
own scheme.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
If I see the hole, I have to take it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I can't try to bounce it outside because now you're
going to be running into the backs of your offensive line.
So he's really gonna have to trust this offensive line.
The philosophy. I have to trust it because last year
you could see he just didn't have a feel for it.
Too many times he's doing too much dance instead of
just oh, put my foot in the ground, being the
physical running back he is and going north and south.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
He's trying to get east and west.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're that's a good point, Chris, because there is a
timing to this. The linemen are being asked to block
a zone, not necessarily a man. So they get to say,
outside the five hole, this seven hole, outside the tackle,
and they have a finite time that they are supposed
to hold that hole before the back has already gone through.
And if there are no men there to block, then
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you go to the second level, but in the same area.
So it's on the back to run through that area
that these linemen are blocking, because they're not going to
run two guys. They're not running two defenders to block.
They're running to the area and if defenders having to
show up in that area, they block them. If the
running back doesn't run to the area where the guys
are blocking the zone, then the whole play fails because
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there will be unblocked defenders away from the point of
attack the way from the whole the zone that they're blocking.
That's what zone blocking is. It does take a discipline
by the running back. It's what made to Creel Davis
so great in the Mike Shanahan Denver offenses that they
won Super Bowls with the timing of Terrell Davis getting
through those holes in the lineman moving laterally running off
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the ball, as Clint Kobiac calls it. And it's going
to take some time for that meshing to occur, even
for Kenneth Walker, who is not used to doing this
and certainly in the last few years in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So that's the point of it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
The offense is way behind the defense so far as
it should be, because the defense is the strength of
the team. But the simplification being elite at less fewer things,
as Abe Lucas put it, is how I would define
the Seahawks in their offensive line for twenty twenty five, Well,
see hot works. Starting July twenty third, they'll begin training camp.
They won't put on pads until about four or five
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days after that. The NFL requires that they have a
four day acclimation period in training camp before they can
put the pads on and then start hitting for real
on the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Up next the House settlement.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You may have heard of that it's redefined college sports
athletic departments directly paying players. Well, it's already getting legal challenges.
It's on very predictable grounds. You could see it coming,
people thought it was coming, and it's here. The first
cases have been filed, and we'll talk about the House
settlement and what college sports may do and a lot
of student athletes are already challenging the legality of it.
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That's next on ninety three point three KJRFF. Welcome back
Craig Bell the News tributing with Christopher Kidd reuniting this
week on ninety three point three KJRFM. You heard report
the storm or down in Los Angeles by the Sparks. Tomorrow,
we're gonna have Alsta Charleston Smith of Box thirteen, Seattle
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will join us talk about the storm and what she
saw at the Seahawks. Next to me, she's the Washington
State broadcaster of the Year. It's gonna be honored for that.
In Winston Salem, North Carolina, Greensboro, North Carolina. I think
it's now moved to here in a couple of weeks.
And on the text line four nine four five one
pointing out to me the high definition channel for CBC
cbut out of Vancouver is six nineteen. So if you
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have Comcast Cable, it's going to be Cable. Go to
six nineteen to night at five o'clock you can watch
the Stanley Cup final mine goes if I hit ninety nine,
it goes straight to the HD channel. The person who
asked me on the text line was from Oregon. They
told me, apparently channel ninety nine and Oregon is the Playboy.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Channel and Blastom the passport. You yeah, exactly. They know
that was still a thing was sold the streaming and what.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Lawyers for a group of eight female athletes who objected
to the House settlement of anti trust cases against the
NCAA and the power of five conferences of filed notice
that they're going to be appealing the federal District Judge
in San Francisco's decision this month to grant approval of
that House agreement. The NIL payments from schools directly to
players at to begin in July.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
First.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
The appeal to the House settlements is about the second
part of the settlement. There's two parts of this. One
is the current athletes in the NIL that's going to
be currently paid right out of the athletic department directly
for the first time instead of just collectives. Departments themselves
can pay up to twenty point five million dollars to
their entire student athlete base. That's one part. The other
part is a backpay of damages of two point eight
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billion dollars for student athletes who could not get an
IO before the NCAA allowed it to be pay for
its players. So of the two point eight billion dollars
and of the back pay and of the twenty point
five million per school, eighty to ninety percent of that
is to go to football and men's basketball male student athletes.
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Five percent is supposed to go to women's basketball. This
is stipulated in the House Agreement that leaves five percent
for all the other sports griz, track, rowing, swimming, golf, baseball, softball,
you name it, every soccer, every other sport gets five
percent of that twenty point million per per year.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The cap is twenty point five this year.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It will go up incrementally each year as revenues are
in television contracts rise. So there's supposed to be a
third party clearing house to ensure that their only legit
NIOL deals are going through. But student athletes can still
receive payments from third party NIL deals from the collectives,
from mot Lake futures and Couge futures and huge collectives.
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But now they're going to be supposedly be reviewed by
an independent committee to ensure the deals reflect quote market value.
And there's already debates on what that is and what's
market value in Pullman versus market value in Seattle, for instance.
That's already an inherent and recruiting advantage for Washington over
Washington State, just take one example. But there isn't a mechanism,
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and then how can there be and it never has
been a mechanism to stop boosters from going back to
the older. It's just paying players, right, I mean, Hell
is calling it nil. Just pay them. The guard rails
are off already, and there's nothing in this House settlement
is going to keep Alabama and Tennessee and Michigan and
Ohio State from just paying players with their boosters that
want to keep paying the players. So the point is,
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so the lawsuits that the female athletes, the student athletes
are attacking on Title nine grounds unconstituted, saying that the
House was unconstitutional in allowing only five percent of women's
basketball and five percent for all the other sports of
this money that college athletic departments are now allowed to
pay athletes. Again, Title nine was not a sports thing.
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Title nine was to make equal representation for female students
at publicly funded universities, and to investigate any claims of
sexual harassment or sexual assault by the school to officially
a schooled investigation. Title nine stipulates that as well. Part
of Title nine is also to say there has to
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be equal representation and money spent on women's student athletes
as men proportioned to the student body. Well, Title nine
is not proportioned to the student body of women, or
the nil of the House Settlement is not proportioned at
all to women's student ffle leets on a campus. There
are more than ten percent of female student athletes on
any college campus, especially if it gets federal funding, or
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also it wouldn't get federal funding, it'd be illegal and unconstitutional.
So the haves and have nots are about to get
even more pronounced, and it's going to throw up on
the field if it hasn't already. Not every Division I
school can afford to pay the twenty point five million
per year that the House Settlement says he can have.
As a cap ub athletic tricter Pat Chung, who's going
to have a press conference tomorrow on Montlake, he's already
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said the Husky is going to pay the max at
twenty point five million, that means about fifteen point four
million to the UB football program at the seventy five
percent threshold. That'll keep pace with the higho State, Michigan,
Penn State, USC in the Big ten. But Washington State,
for instance, and McCloy said this spring, Washington State's only
going to allot five to four point five million to
its football program. Fifteen million to four and a half million.
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That's the difference between the money that Washington's going to
spend the football team and Washington State's going to spend.
Of course, the revenue shares or the revenue sources are
so different. So what's the trickle down of all this
schools and donors being asked to pay money. We're going
to increase ticket prices, We're going to put a tax
on concessions. We're going to just flat out ask for
straight donations. And this is going to dry up. Eventually.
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Donors are going to say, wait a minute, I only
got a quarterback for one season and he left. I
spent a million dollars on a quarterback. Who do you
even stay for more than one three, four months? And
eventually the donors will get tapped out and they'll say
I'm sending my money elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's not a finite pool.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yet the same issues of nil collectives are going to
happen with these the House settlement and paying money through
the student athletes through the athletic department's coffers. If you're
going to ask the donors to back up some of that,
there's going to be donor fatigue and people that are
eventually said, no, I'm not doing this anymore, and then
student athletes are excuse me, the athletic departments are going
to have to pay for it themselves, truly, and then
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you see things like Washington yes Washington State yesterday announcing
that half its track program will be cut, no more
field events for instance. Anyway, this is going to be
in the courts for a while, and if it gets
into courts on appeal, it will hold up some of
these payments that are supposed to start on July first.
All of that is happening in college sports four nine,
four or five one. If you're a Husky or Cougar donor,
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are you still willing to donate when they ask for
more money to help you pay for student athletes from
the House settlement? How do you feel about that. I'd
be interested to hear from those of you who are
Husky and Cougar, either alumni or donors or boosters, and
whether the House settlement changes how you view your payments
to your athletic departments that you know and love. We'll
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read back those texts at twelve thirty up. Next, Luke
Arkins Mariners can Sickly Air newsletter author wrote an interesting
piece yesterday, and Julia Rodriguez, my good Navy buddy, Go Army,
beat Navy.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
He joins us.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Next A ninety three point three KJRFM
Joined us right after quick run through headlines brought to
you by Frostby records like Choose Chill. Just after we
thought the Mariners might be back on track after sweeping Cleveland,
they go down and down hard last night to Boston
at home, two nothing, striking out fifteen times, leaving the
entire roster on base, including bases loaded, nobody out, not scoring,
with three whiffs, two men on, nobody out, wiff foul out.
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That was in the eighth inning. Logan Gilbert's start, first return,
first starts since April twenty fifth, ten strikeouts, eight of
them swinging in just five innings eighty four pitches. But
he gave up a solo home run and first inning,
and that was all the Red Sox needed to win
their six straight games. The trash Cans also lost those
down against the A's and Sacramento, so the Mariners are
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still four and a half back in the American League West.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Games five of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Last night, the Oklahoma City Thunder beat Indiana one twenty
to one oh nine. Tyrese Haliburton is hurt. He didn't
make a shot for Indiana last night. They're in trouble.
They're coming home Game six in Indianapolis on Thursday night,
with the Thunder trying to win its first franchise NBA championship.
Game six of the Stanley Cup Finals is tonight in Sunrise, Florida.
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The Florida Panthers are home with a chance to close
out the Edmonton Oilers and win the Stanley Cup for
the second consecutive.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Season over the Edmonton.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Edmonton trying to force a Game seven by winning tonight
in Florida. They won Game four in Florida and then
lost at home when the Panthers beat him rather soundly
on Saturday. David Dwark has been covering this series for
the last couple of years now. He joined US last
year and the Beacon Plumbing Hotline during the Stanley Cup Finals.
He joins US again from South Florida in the same situation.
(01:38):
Chance to win the Stanley Cup back to back for Florida. David,
it's great to talk to you again. Thanks for being on.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh happy to be back on.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You wrote that tonight is the Panthers opportunity to do
something that's kind of rare, right, What is that?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh? Just not just winning back to back Stanley Cuffs
to win both series on home ice. Ironically, the last
team to do that was the Oilers back in the
late eighties I believe it was. And even back then
it was only because there was like a power outage
in Boston right back to Edmonton. But the last time
it happened before that without any you know, external changes,
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was the Oilers back at their first two Stanley Cups
in eighty four eighty five. So we're talking almost forty
years since the team has won back to back Cups
on home ice. And as we've seen this series, if
the Panthers are going to do that, they're going to
have to earn it, because these have been so far
five really good hockey games.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They have been fantastic.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
If you haven't watched it Stanley Cup Finals until now,
you are wrong and you can right yourself by watching
tonight's game, which is it just after five o'clock Seattle time. So, David,
how did the Panthers get here? Can you give us
a big maybe the biggest reasons why the Panthers are
on the cusp but doing it again?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I mean, you can start with Paul Maurice and his coaching,
defensive coaching systems that he's been implemented, over the last
three years. Florida does a five man defensive game and
a tight four check that really nobody else in the
league does these days, and they do it kind of
ad nauseum, just in your face, over and over again.
They tire teams out. They've got a full roster, a
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deep roster of players that have bought in, They put
in the work, they respect one another when they come
to the rink, and it's really just a great situation
that they've built here. And I know I started off
by saying Paul Maurice, but really Bills Edo the DM.
He's put this team together over the last five years
since he got hired back in twenty twenty, and obviously
he's built himself a championship team. So there's that. There's
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the fact that they've been able to stay pretty healthy
over their playoff run. You know, they've had a couple
nicks and bruises here and there, but nobody's had to
miss any extended time. Their stars are all playing well,
and even Matki Couchuck, who we know is not one
hundred percent, he's playing in a very positively impacting the
game type of way. So Ford has been very fortunate
there and then obviously you always have to go back
to the goaltending. They've got a world class goaltender and
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started over Roski, who has been incredibly consistent for them
over the last several postseasons, and this year's been no different,
even in a Stilly Cup final where we've seen so
many goals scored over the course of the series that
you could argue that the goaltending itself has been pretty solid,
and Sergei Lebrowski certainly has fallen under his usual solid game.
So there's a lot of reasons why Florida's as good
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as they are, but I'd say those are probably the
top ones.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
This pinching on the boards and coming. This is David
Work again talking to us from South Florida. He's the
hockey news beat writer for the Florida Panthers, also in
WFLD down in South Florida on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline
here on ninety three point three KJFM. You mentioned the
pitching and the boards and the way they play defense,
and they're constantly pressing and constantly pressing, not letting you
get out of your own zone. Why do you I
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covered the Seahawks for a living in the NFL, it's
a copycat league. As soon as something works and somebody
wins the Super Bowl with it, everybody else in the
league copies it schematically. Why do you think the NHL
no one's been able to duplicate what Florida does?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
The personnel, is it, how Maurice coaches it, and the
x's and those of it? Why do you think Florida
seems to be head and shoulders above everybody else playing
that way?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, it's not as simple as just like replicating a
playbook and just going out there running similar routes. The
physical demand and told that it puts on a body
to play this style. It's exhausting physically, it's exhausting mentally
because you have to be aware of where everybody else
is on the ice at all times in order to
properly be in the right position not get caught out.
It's very difficult. I don't know if other teams have
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tried to over the last few years and just not
been able to do it, or if they just simply
don't want to overhaul their entire systems and personnel in
order to play this style. Because even if the coach
decided next training camp like, Hey, I want to do this.
I want to be like what the Panthers are. You've
got to make sure you've got the players that are
willing to put in that kind of physical effort and
toll on their body to play it that way, the
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cardio that it takes to be in that kind of
shape to go out there. I mean, you know, hockey
shift in general, you're going to be giving it everything
you have over the course of like ninety seconds or so.
But in this particular system, it's just non stop. And yeah,
they say that this is the Panthers are playing playoff
type hockeys is how used to play during the postseason.
But to see them do it, you know, for eighty
two games during the regular season, then carry it over
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now three straight postseasons that go all the way to
the Stanley Cup Final, I'd be very interested and intrigued
to find another team that would be able to really
try to do what Florida's done, because the reason that
no one else is doing it and no one else
has done it over the last you know, thirty some years,
is just because of how difficult it is. And it's
a testament to what a perfect storm situation they've built
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here in Florida between you know, starting with Zito and
Maurice and the players that they've added to this roster
over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The Panthers owner in vincent Iola is a West Point graduate,
so they should be relentless and they should be having
a good cardio and everything else is David go Army
beat Navy.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is David Work.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He's from South Florida and he's the hockey news beat
writer for the Florida Panthers On ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
David, is this series turning into a legacy defining moment
for Barkov or Connor McDavid, depending on who comes out
on top.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Maybe more so for McDavid if he is able to
complete the comeback and win his first Stanley Cup. Has
been you know, eluding him as the world's best hockey
player over the last you know, decade or since he
came into the league. For Barkov, he he's more, I
don't want to say, behind the scenes kind of guy.
But for so many of the things that Barkov does
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well that are so crucial to the Panthers, he doesn't
really get the kind of recognition that you would get
if he was out there scoring, you know, a goal
or two every game, putting up those big offensive highlights. Really,
you could kind of point to Barkov and the way
that he's been able to almost mitigate McDavid and keep
him from becoming the superstar that I think many expected
to see during this final. So I would say in
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terms of a legacy, I mean Barkov, you know, becoming
the first Finish captain to rate to be handed the
Stanley Cup first last season was pretty big for him
in his career. I think this year it's more about
the Connor McDavid potentially finally getting his if uilers are
able to make a comeback, where you look at a
guy on the Panthers like Brad Marshawn, who you know,
obviously got a tough in his first year, the first
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full year in the NHL back in twenty eleven, but
we've been able to kind of take over the series,
do some of the things that we expected to see
Conor McDavid do in terms of scoring some highlight goals
and taking games over it. And it's been pretty silly
or serious, pretty interesting to see it play out that way.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Got you.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And then if I'm not mistaken, with three of the
five games going into overtime and only two home wins,
what is the what would you say is the biggest
factor in this series defining that home ice advantage.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's interesting how that hasn't really played a huge part.
I think with that you have to almost point to
Florida and just how they've been such a dominant routine
throughout this postseason, setting records for scoring. I think they've
tied a record for road wins. It's been really cool
to see how they've just not let that bother them.
We've seen over the last few years, like they really
embrace stuff already on the road, getting out into you know,
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the road situations where you're just to keep the whole
time team dinners, poker games and all that stuff, Like
they really embrace that and enjoy it. And it's the
way this series has played out. I mean, as you said,
we've had three of the five games go to overtime,
the Oilers winning two of them. Their only wins in
the series have come in overtime. The two non close
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games in the series where Florida you know, played their
argub best hockey of the series and was able to
get to their game and really bought the Oilers down.
I mean, particularly in Game five. The shots on goal
were so low for Edmonton compared to the rest of
the series, particularly on home mice, but they've been so good,
so I think the big key for Florida will be
to try to continue to do what they've done in
two of the last three games of this series and
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control the physicality, control the shot totals, and limit Edmonton's
rush opportunities, which has been arguably the biggest thing in
this series, just because the Oilers bread and butter is
creating those high danger chances and Florida's done a really
good job of slowing them down coming out of their
their own zone and through the neutral zone and king
away their speed.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Mentioned Panthers on there ivingk Sam Bennett's but sixteen goals
in the plass and fourteen of them are on the road,
something like that. He's been fantastic in Edmonton in this series.
You mentioned Brad Marshan David, what has he made a
difference and since he arrived in Boston in the trade,
what has he given them? We see him chirping and
getting under people's skin and joshing guys before the face
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off and just being a pest.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But man, he's so much more than just that.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, it's been pretty incredible to get to know him
over the last couple of months and to watch him
and dear himself, not just to coach and his teammates,
but to really the hockey fans. Not just in South Florida,
but I think a lot of people are seeing a
different side of Brad marsha on And it's been interesting
because you mentioned so many of the things that you
know he brings to the table, the physicality, the chirping,
and obviously high end offensive abilities. But what's been really
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interesting is the positivity he's had, the impact he's had
on his teammates both on and off the ice. Hearing
Paul Maurice talk about some of the things he's learned
about Brad marsham him on the bench. The way that
he's constantly is palm Maurice put it, pumping the tires
of his teammates, pumping them full of positive energy, telling
them about good things they did on the ice, places
they do. The impact there is really something that I
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don't think a lot of us saw coming, but the
way that he's been able to lift up so many
of his teammates well, obviously still being incredibly impactful himself.
It's been pretty cool to see over the last couple
of months.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You mentioned Paul Maurice.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He fascinates me when I listened to him in press
conference as a beat writer. How he deals with the media,
how he sometimes chides and oh I'm not falling for
that one and not giving what bulletin board material for
the opponent, and those kind of things. Has can you
take us back to, first of all, the Panthers hiring him,
but how do he change the culture himself? You mentioned
(11:47):
Zito and the general manager bringing in the players, but
what is Paul Maurice like on a daily basis?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
How has he shaped this team? How much of their
success is due to him?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
No? I think you know, you could argue a a
very large part of it. You know, Paul Maurice changing
the systems when he arrived. He jokes about it that
he got here. When he arrived, he to a President's
Trophy winning team that led the league in goals, and
then he went and screwed it up and they barely
speak into the playoffs the next year, so he's kind
of since day one, he's been tongue in cheek. But
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it was a perfect situation just because he you know,
the personality that he has, and he's the kind of
coach that is more than happy to let his players
kind of run themselves a little bit and give them
the responsibilities so that way they can feel that accountability.
When he arrived here in South Florida, you know, I
think two and a half years after Bill Zito had
been hired, and when Zeno got hired, the first moves
he made were to reshape the culture in the locker room.
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He brought in Radcote Dutis, He brought in Patrick Hornquest,
who's still a big part of the team in a
in a hockey opica in general, and you know, wearing
a suit and tie front office role. But it's it's
those kind of moves that had the players starting to
police themselves and holding each other accountable. And then he
bring in pal Maurice, who says, Okay, I'm going to
make you work incredibly hard, but if you buy in,
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the results will be there and nothing but truth in
that regard, because everybody's bought right into. Paul Maurice's systems.
They've had a high end offense before he got here.
He added accountable defense, five man defensive systems, tight gaps,
and it's worked incredibly well. So I think in terms
of a carrot or just looking down the list of
the moves that have been made over the last several years,
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from Zito to Maurice to Kit Chuck, to the smaller
moves like last year bringing in to Kevin Stenlin to
fortify the penalty kill, this year, bringing in guys to
the deadline like Marsha and Seth Jones. Just move after
move that have played off quite well for the Panthers,
all with a collective goal in mind of making the
roster better. A guy like Nico Mikola, whom many of
us have never heard of, has been a specialist, has
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been incredibly good as the defenseman in the system. So
it all kind of ties into what Maurice and Zito
and everybody just working in this incredible synergy here in
Soth Florida.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Navid work from South Florida beat writer for The Hockey
News with Florida Panthers talking on the day of what
the Panther's hope is their Cup clinching game tonight Game
six in South Florida. Paul Maurice was the head coach
at the Toronto Mapley, so he knows how to deal
with the media. That's the Dallas Cowboys of Canadian Sports
and New York Yankees rupped in the one, and he's
been a revelation in South Florida. So let me put
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you on the spot. Chris would normally do this, but
I don't do it about you.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I remember you, Chris. They do it tonight. Do you think,
David or.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Do you think this is going back to edmund for
the longest trip in the NHL for Game seven.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't want to say what I think is going
to happen because I don't want it to happen. Since
the beginning, I thought that this was going to be
a seven game series. The teams have bounced back off
each other pretty well, so it's hard for me to
think that this won't go seven. Florida's got the momentum.
They should win tonight. They're on home ice, but this
is the final. Edmonton has something to say about it,
and they've obviously got a lot of pent up issues
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after losing in seven last year. The way they did.
I don't want to fly back up to Edmonton. Guys.
There's no direct flights.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's not fun.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Last year, but I think that's that's really what hockey
fans and everybody deserves, would be a seven game series.
So I do think Florida would come out on top,
but I think it's going to take seven games to
do it.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
David Dwark enjoy your evening. It's gonna be wild either way.
The Cup is in the building tonight in Sunrise for
the Game six of the Stanley Cup Finals.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Thanks a lot for having it, for being back on.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh you're welcome, guys. I hope I'm wrong, but we'll
talk again too.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
David Dwerk from Southford.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
He's hoping no one in South Florida is listening out
here in Seattle, but we can always post that and
tell him to listen in to right podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You get hear in his voice.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Oh, I really hope this doesn't happen, but it's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
That's like nine hours of flights because as he said,
there are no direct rights. The only people flying direct
are the teams in the broadcasters. So how that works
is they had there was a quick turnaround between games
four and or five and six, they had only one
day off. Most times they've had two days off. But
the teams left that night to fly back to Edmonton
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from Florida between I'm getting this back to yes games
four and five. They left that night to get in
in Edmonton with the time change in their favor two
hours difference and getting in the middle of the night,
and then having all that next day off and then
plan again, and then they get right back on a
plane and go back to South Florida. But they at
least get to go direct on charters. Right, So it's
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about a six hour flight from Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Hey, let's get reporters on that flight. There are some
leagues that do that. They get reporters on league flights.
That's fine. I don't care what it's called.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Just you know, I want to be able to travel
in eight hours one way, not twelve because oh, you're
going to stop here and chill for a minute.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It is the longest trip between two cities in the
NHL in North American sports, from where the Florida Panthers
are in Sunrise, Florida to Edmonton. And it's happened now
two years in a row. And so yeah, people have
those of us in the print media world who don't
get direct flights and charters. That's the world we live in.
But hey, he knows he's getting paid to cover what
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he is. As he said, a fantastic series. If you
have not I watched the Stanley Cup Finals, please do
so tonight. Three of the five games have gone to overtime,
and when they've gone to overtime, the tying goal has
come in the final thirty seconds. It's just a tremendous theater,
the intensity. Tonight, in an elimination game, the Cup will
be in the building. And again, as I always say,
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watch it on CBC Sports Net if you're so lucky
to have cable here in the cbut out of Vancouver
is the CBC outlet in Vancouver. That experience watching it there,
compared to the tnt US broadcast is not even closed.
It's like watching two different sports. Promise me you will
do that if you have the opportunity to, because you
will thank me later. When I went to Ian Furness's
(17:37):
house for Keefer's graduation party, I was proud to see
that not only was the game on in the living room,
it was on the CBC telecast, of course, and not
TNT the Canadian that Ian Furness is. So that's tonight
just after five o'clock Edmonton at Florida, Game six of
the Stanley Cup Finals, with the Cup in the building
and Florida with a chance to win the second consecutive Cup.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Aby Lucas is healthy, the start right tackle for the Seahawks,
has opinions on how the offense is changing this year.
He had some interesting comments we'll share with you next
on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's a new one, Chris didn't. How about for me
last year, just for you months ago. It sounds like
something from the Beach Boys.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Hi in my head, I said, this is gonna say
Beach Boys, and what do you know?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Nailed it and honor of Brian Wilson and just passed
away in his eighties. A couple of days ago, Greg
Bell the News Tribune filmed in from Mark James Reunited
with Christopher Kid here from ten am to ten am
to one pm all week. Ian fornesss will be up
next to twelve to forty five. He'll join us for
cross talk. We'll read back your text at twelve thirty.
One of the texts was, Hey, I got Comcast cable.
How can I watch the CBC sports Net broadcast tonight
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of Game six of the Stanley Cup Finals. Well, it's
channel ninety nine on most cable systems for Comcast in Infinity.
Please do that, you will. It's so I mentioned yesterday,
the sound quality, the analysis, just how invested they are
and Edmonton especially trying to win Canada back the Cup
for the first time in thirty two years. It means
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more and it's really it comes through in the broadcast
Channel ninety nine. If you have Xfinity Comcast cable, you
can watch that just after five pen night Game six,
the Oilers and Panthers with the Cup in the building
in Sunrise, Florida, with the Panthers a chance to win
for the second straight time. Last week, the Seahawks finished
their mini camp. Their veterans are now done until training
camp begins on July to twenty third. Abe Lucas he's
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a really interesting cat. He's from Washington State and from
Archbasipmitty High School in Mill Creek. He was born in Everett,
Mill Creek and raised there, and he's he's really understated
he has a very dry sense of humor. And someone
asked him what his first impressions were of his new quarterback,
Sam Darnold and Lucas total dead pand Smiles said, well,
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my first impression was in twenty seventeen when he was
at USC and we beat him in Pullman. He remember that, Chris,
what does Friday night game? That's there you go? That
was the Friday night game when Mike Leach's Koog's beat
number five USC in Martin Stadium and ESPN had on
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Sports Center had Mike Leach John immediately after game because
ESPN had broadcast the game, so they had leechs live
on the air as soon as the game ended. You
know how this Sports Center starts right after the game
it ends, and then they go back right back to
Pullman and from the field. They had Mike Leach on
they are live and Neil Everett, the then Sports Center anchor,
Portland Guy, Oregon Northwest native. He asked Leach what the
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scene was like there, what it's like? He said, Well,
Mike Leech said, well, it's like Woodstock, except everybody has
their clothes on.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I always remember him saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Hey, Lucas says, this is as healthy as he's been
since he was at Washington State six years ago. Knee
surgery in January twenty twenty four repaired to pateller tendon.
He told me right after the last season ended in
this past January, the doctors told him it would be
a twelve month full twelve month recovery, which met January
twenty twenty five. Well, he came back to play in
November of twenty twenty four and played the latter six
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games or so on that knee that was still recuperating.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
When I asked him to compare now last week how.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He feels compared to how he felt playing on that
knee last season, he said, quote night and day, and
that speaks well for the Seahawks offensive line and at
right tackle. Here's what Lucas had to say about his
impressions of the new offense, his new offensive line coaches,
his new offensive coordinator, Klint Kubiak, in the outside zone system.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
How could do you think this offensive line could be
this year?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
How are good we want to be? We have the
right coaching, the right tools. The identity has definitely changed
from last year to this year. So it's on us
as far as we want to take it. How was
the identity jam when you get a new staff in, Like,
I mean, everybody wants to run the ball, you know,
but when it kind of you come in and it's
kind of a non negotiable, like we're running the ball,
you know what I mean. We put a fullback in
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the backfield, like we're changing it up, We're doing things differently,
and it's like an old school mentality with a new
school principal sort of thing. So looking forward to getting
after that, do you think.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
That might be the biggest difference for you guys with
the run game, because the last couple of years is
maybe just general commitment to it rather than well, it's
something you just have.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Some balance on that. We're trying to be elite at
very few things, but those few things are what the
offense is going to be based around, and that's the
run game. You know, We're going to be elite at
the run game. Like that's the philosophy with it. It's
not some hodgepodge of just a bunch of different stuff
we're just throwing in, you know what I mean, We're
going to be elite at the basics to make sure
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that they work, so we can do it against anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Hed Lucas is starting right tackle for the Seahawks during
Seahawks Mini camp. We're trying to be elite at very
few things, so it's not a hodgepodge of just a
bunch of different stuff we're throwing it. If I could
crystallize what the difference is between the Seahawks offensive approach
under Klint Kubiak now as to under Ryan Grubb last season,
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it's that they are refining and narrowing their focus. Mike
McDonald thought they were trying to do too much. They
were trying to be all kinds of things on offense. Shotgun,
inside zone, quick pass, deep strikes, play action. Ryan Greb
was trying to give the full University of Washington experience
with the Seahawks. The problem, of course, is he had
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the best offensive line in college football at Washington. He
had one of the worst offensive lines in pro football
at the Seahawks. So it didn't work. So the simplification
of the system is we're running the ball. And you
mentioned him saying kind of a new school feel on
an old school principle. The old school is they are
going full back in two backs. They're going to go
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twelve and twenty two personnel. They're going to go I formations,
student body, right, toss sweeps. I saw it in OTA's
I saw in mini camps, and I mentioned yesterday I
thought I was watching the nineteen seventy eighty USC Trojans
with John Robinson throwing pitches to Charles White. It was
I formation on the first four plays, as if to
tell the defense and the offense both here we are.
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This is the new US. They are going to be
asking the offensive linemen to be better at fewer things,
meaning outside zone, not pull and trap, and sometimes man
blocking and sometimes inside zone and sometimes outside zone that
Scott Huff had him doing last year because he and
Grub were trying to do a little bit of everything
on the offense. Mike McDonald told Clint Kubiak, run the ball.
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That's why he hired him from the Saints.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
This.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
McDonald doesn't care if the entire NFL knows what the
Seahawks want to do, does not care. Last year, the
Sea the Saints that Kubiak's offense ran were in I
formation nearly twenty five percent of the time. Everybody else
in the league not even close to sing digits the Seahawks,
and I can remember a handful of times the entire
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season they had two backs in the backfield, and a
lot of times it was Derek Young or Brady Russell
or A. J. Barner tight ends and wide.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Receivers back there true fullbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
They drafted a two hundred and seventy five pounds one
Robbi oots from he was a tight end at Alabama.
They've converted a tight end Brady Russell to full back.
Those two are competing for the fullback job, and they're
going to play one out of every four snaps probably,
And Lady Lucas mentioned that as well. So this is
going to be way different, and it's going to be
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they think simpler, thus better for the offensive line to
master fewer things. They also, as we mentioned yesterday, I
think they have offensive linemen better suited for this that
can move louterly. It's why they drafted Greys Abel and
I mentioned that he was the fastest off the ball
in ot in mini camps. You just watch from a
global take a step back and watch them behind the
end zone thirty forty yards away, and you watch all
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five lineen getting off the ball in scrimmages and he's
by far as Helmet was the first. Want to go
latterly across the line of scrimmage, beating everybody else off
the snap. They want to do outside zone, outside zone,
and then outside zone again. What they will ask with
Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald will ask Sam Donald. Chris
is so different than Gino Smith. They wanted Gino Smith
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to win games by himself with his arm. They didn't
have a run game, he didn't have much pass protection.
They want Sam Donald to do the opposite. They want
Sam Donald to win the game after we've established the run.
I could see them running the ball down two scores
and just still running and still running, and fans booing,
and they go three and out after three runs. I
honestly feel that that Mike McDonald would feel that there
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are some drives worth running the ball three times. That's
how hell bent he is on changing the mentality and
approach of this team. I don't know, Chris, how you feel.
I think the offense will be better simply because it
better fits the personnel they have, including the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But now you were asking Genus Smith to do too much.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, we saw that in the games going back and
watching the tape. And now to your point, it all
starts with the offensive line. I think they have definitely
addressed it. I believe that the left tackle solidified, right tackle,
right guard is where Zillah was going to play correct,
so I think left guard, So I think you have
that locked in. Now was just figuring out the other
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two spots. What's going to work to allow the running
game to be successful because last year we saw that
ken he was, he didn't trust it. There were so
many times where he's doing too much dancing and not
just hitting the hole and the hole is there, So
now he has to readjust and realize, Okay, it's his
own scheme.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
If I see the hole, I have to take it.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I can't try to bounce it outside because now you're
going to be running into the backs of your offensive line.
So he's really gonna have to trust this offensive line.
The philosophy. I have to trust it because last year
you could see he just didn't have a feel for it.
Too many times he's doing too much dance instead of
just oh, put my foot in the ground, being the
physical running back he is and going north and south.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
He's trying to get east and west.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're that's a good point, Chris, because there is a
timing to this. The linemen are being asked to block
a zone, not necessarily a man. So they get to say,
outside the five hole, this seven hole, outside the tackle,
and they have a finite time that they are supposed
to hold that hole before the back has already gone through.
And if there are no men there to block, then
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you go to the second level, but in the same area.
So it's on the back to run through that area
that these linemen are blocking, because they're not going to
run two guys. They're not running two defenders to block.
They're running to the area and if defenders having to
show up in that area, they block them. If the
running back doesn't run to the area where the guys
are blocking the zone, then the whole play fails because
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there will be unblocked defenders away from the point of
attack the way from the whole the zone that they're blocking.
That's what zone blocking is. It does take a discipline
by the running back. It's what made to Creel Davis
so great in the Mike Shanahan Denver offenses that they
won Super Bowls with the timing of Terrell Davis getting
through those holes in the lineman moving laterally running off
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the ball, as Clint Kobiac calls it. And it's going
to take some time for that meshing to occur, even
for Kenneth Walker, who is not used to doing this
and certainly in the last few years in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So that's the point of it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
The offense is way behind the defense so far as
it should be, because the defense is the strength of
the team. But the simplification being elite at less fewer things,
as Abe Lucas put it, is how I would define
the Seahawks in their offensive line for twenty twenty five, Well,
see hot works. Starting July twenty third, they'll begin training camp.
They won't put on pads until about four or five
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days after that. The NFL requires that they have a
four day acclimation period in training camp before they can
put the pads on and then start hitting for real
on the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Up next the House settlement.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You may have heard of that it's redefined college sports
athletic departments directly paying players. Well, it's already getting legal challenges.
It's on very predictable grounds. You could see it coming,
people thought it was coming, and it's here. The first
cases have been filed, and we'll talk about the House
settlement and what college sports may do and a lot
of student athletes are already challenging the legality of it.
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That's next on ninety three point three KJRFF. Welcome back
Craig Bell the News tributing with Christopher Kidd reuniting this
week on ninety three point three KJRFM. You heard report
the storm or down in Los Angeles by the Sparks. Tomorrow,
we're gonna have Alsta Charleston Smith of Box thirteen, Seattle
(30:37):
will join us talk about the storm and what she
saw at the Seahawks. Next to me, she's the Washington
State broadcaster of the Year. It's gonna be honored for that.
In Winston Salem, North Carolina, Greensboro, North Carolina. I think
it's now moved to here in a couple of weeks.
And on the text line four nine four five one
pointing out to me the high definition channel for CBC
cbut out of Vancouver is six nineteen. So if you
(30:59):
have Comcast Cable, it's going to be Cable. Go to
six nineteen to night at five o'clock you can watch
the Stanley Cup final mine goes if I hit ninety nine,
it goes straight to the HD channel. The person who
asked me on the text line was from Oregon. They
told me, apparently channel ninety nine and Oregon is the Playboy.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Channel and Blastom the passport. You yeah, exactly. They know
that was still a thing was sold the streaming and what.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Lawyers for a group of eight female athletes who objected
to the House settlement of anti trust cases against the
NCAA and the power of five conferences of filed notice
that they're going to be appealing the federal District Judge
in San Francisco's decision this month to grant approval of
that House agreement. The NIL payments from schools directly to
players at to begin in July.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
First.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
The appeal to the House settlements is about the second
part of the settlement. There's two parts of this. One
is the current athletes in the NIL that's going to
be currently paid right out of the athletic department directly
for the first time instead of just collectives. Departments themselves
can pay up to twenty point five million dollars to
their entire student athlete base. That's one part. The other
part is a backpay of damages of two point eight
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billion dollars for student athletes who could not get an
IO before the NCAA allowed it to be pay for
its players. So of the two point eight billion dollars
and of the back pay and of the twenty point
five million per school, eighty to ninety percent of that
is to go to football and men's basketball male student athletes.
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Five percent is supposed to go to women's basketball. This
is stipulated in the House Agreement that leaves five percent
for all the other sports griz, track, rowing, swimming, golf, baseball, softball,
you name it, every soccer, every other sport gets five
percent of that twenty point million per per year.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The cap is twenty point five this year.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It will go up incrementally each year as revenues are
in television contracts rise. So there's supposed to be a
third party clearing house to ensure that their only legit
NIOL deals are going through. But student athletes can still
receive payments from third party NIL deals from the collectives,
from mot Lake futures and Couge futures and huge collectives.
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But now they're going to be supposedly be reviewed by
an independent committee to ensure the deals reflect quote market value.
And there's already debates on what that is and what's
market value in Pullman versus market value in Seattle, for instance.
That's already an inherent and recruiting advantage for Washington over
Washington State, just take one example. But there isn't a mechanism,
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and then how can there be and it never has
been a mechanism to stop boosters from going back to
the older. It's just paying players, right, I mean, Hell
is calling it nil. Just pay them. The guard rails
are off already, and there's nothing in this House settlement
is going to keep Alabama and Tennessee and Michigan and
Ohio State from just paying players with their boosters that
want to keep paying the players. So the point is,
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so the lawsuits that the female athletes, the student athletes
are attacking on Title nine grounds unconstituted, saying that the
House was unconstitutional in allowing only five percent of women's
basketball and five percent for all the other sports of
this money that college athletic departments are now allowed to
pay athletes. Again, Title nine was not a sports thing.
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Title nine was to make equal representation for female students
at publicly funded universities, and to investigate any claims of
sexual harassment or sexual assault by the school to officially
a schooled investigation. Title nine stipulates that as well. Part
of Title nine is also to say there has to
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be equal representation and money spent on women's student athletes
as men proportioned to the student body. Well, Title nine
is not proportioned to the student body of women, or
the nil of the House Settlement is not proportioned at
all to women's student ffle leets on a campus. There
are more than ten percent of female student athletes on
any college campus, especially if it gets federal funding, or
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also it wouldn't get federal funding, it'd be illegal and unconstitutional.
So the haves and have nots are about to get
even more pronounced, and it's going to throw up on
the field if it hasn't already. Not every Division I
school can afford to pay the twenty point five million
per year that the House Settlement says he can have.
As a cap ub athletic tricter Pat Chung, who's going
to have a press conference tomorrow on Montlake, he's already
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said the Husky is going to pay the max at
twenty point five million, that means about fifteen point four
million to the UB football program at the seventy five
percent threshold. That'll keep pace with the higho State, Michigan,
Penn State, USC in the Big ten. But Washington State,
for instance, and McCloy said this spring, Washington State's only
going to allot five to four point five million to
its football program. Fifteen million to four and a half million.
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That's the difference between the money that Washington's going to
spend the football team and Washington State's going to spend.
Of course, the revenue shares or the revenue sources are
so different. So what's the trickle down of all this
schools and donors being asked to pay money. We're going
to increase ticket prices, We're going to put a tax
on concessions. We're going to just flat out ask for
straight donations. And this is going to dry up. Eventually.
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Donors are going to say, wait a minute, I only
got a quarterback for one season and he left. I
spent a million dollars on a quarterback. Who do you
even stay for more than one three, four months? And
eventually the donors will get tapped out and they'll say
I'm sending my money elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's not a finite pool.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yet the same issues of nil collectives are going to
happen with these the House settlement and paying money through
the student athletes through the athletic department's coffers. If you're
going to ask the donors to back up some of that,
there's going to be donor fatigue and people that are
eventually said, no, I'm not doing this anymore, and then
student athletes are excuse me, the athletic departments are going
to have to pay for it themselves, truly, and then
(36:51):
you see things like Washington yes Washington State yesterday announcing
that half its track program will be cut, no more
field events for instance. Anyway, this is going to be
in the courts for a while, and if it gets
into courts on appeal, it will hold up some of
these payments that are supposed to start on July first.
All of that is happening in college sports four nine,
four or five one. If you're a Husky or Cougar donor,
(37:13):
are you still willing to donate when they ask for
more money to help you pay for student athletes from
the House settlement? How do you feel about that. I'd
be interested to hear from those of you who are
Husky and Cougar, either alumni or donors or boosters, and
whether the House settlement changes how you view your payments
to your athletic departments that you know and love. We'll
(37:35):
read back those texts at twelve thirty up. Next, Luke
Arkins Mariners can Sickly Air newsletter author wrote an interesting
piece yesterday, and Julia Rodriguez, my good Navy buddy, Go Army,
beat Navy.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
He joins us.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
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