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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half
Chelsea on this episode.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
In this episode of the We Don't Podcast, a lot
of times we go into this hoping to give people
some answers to things, we're actually doing this to try
to get.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Some answers to things exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And it deals with a situation that we've been dealing
with over the last couple of weeks that has really
costs for a lot of pain in our relationship.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
And we'll talk about it right now.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
All right, we're going to talk about pain. And it's
not pain that I think I've caused you. No, not
this time, which means that there's probably going to be
a next time. So although I did have caused you
a little bit of pain with this, because I think
when you're you're dealing with physical pain, you feel like
nobody around you is paying attention to your physical pain.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Well, and you're also dealing with a little bit of
pain right now too, And I don't like to complain
about my pain. And I think one night I just
hit the roof because I couldn't hear about your pain anymore.
I am also in a lot of pain right now.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think one of the problems that you and I
both have is that we're so opposite in how we deal.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
With things, so opposite.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Like I am the type of person I am a baby,
and I and a hypochondriac and a hypochondriac ass. So
when I have an issue, I immediately blow that issue
up and then I try to call everybody to figure
out exactly how I can fix it. Because I got
this from my dad.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was kind of like I wanted to make sure
that I was not going to like die off of
my nail being pricked.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Or something right right, And I'm the opposite.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
You wait and wait and wait almost to a point
where I feel like it then builds up and I'm
I'm not going to say it gets worse, but I
think that it makes you feel worse.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Right, or I just think, Okay, this will go away,
this will go away. There's no need to rush in
or do anything. I've with what's going on right now.
I've had this pain before, so it comes and goes
and I can deal with it. It just this time,
right now, it reached a level where I couldn't deal
with it anymore. So I had to get involved doctors

(02:54):
this time. And then you realize, okay, but this is
a pattern that I've been putting off, not ignoring it,
but the fact that the pain is coming back again
and again and again, and then it can lead to
some scary things that we're trying to rule out right now.
But yeah, I just you know, I think women in general,
we just kind of like push through it and you know,

(03:17):
just do what we have to do, whereas most men,
not my dad, though, my dad ignores everything. Like he
literally was drove himself to the hospital. Well he was
having a heart attack, so and my mom made my
mom called me, and I called him and made him
go to the hospital. So most men, or are you

(03:42):
But you get a splinter like this is my example
that I will always use. You had a splinter in
your finger, and our gynecologists came over to remove the splinter.
I came home and literally he was removing a fucking
splinter from your finger. I get it. You have to
to push buttons with your fingers for work, so we'll

(04:03):
just call it. That's why you needed it done. But
I was just like, are you looking getting me? Seriously,
like put a fucking band aid on it and wait
for the body to push it out yourself. Like so,
but that that is just we are opposite. We are
at opposite extremes. And I also feel like when you
have a problem, people bend over backwards to try to

(04:28):
fix it for you, like, which is amazing. I'm great
and I'm glad that that. I'm happy for you and
happy for us as a family. That that's what has
happened otherwise, you know, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Have developed I've developed great relationships, yes, with amazing people,
amazing doctors. Yes, yeah, And I got the type of
person that if I go to a doctor, by the
end of our visit, like I know, as families.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
And it is so good because you have we have
friends and family that when there is a problem, you
immediately are on the phone and you call every doctor
that you know who can help it, which is so great,
Like it is really really good.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
And I've tried to do that, not just for us,
but I tried to do it for many friends.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
And I just said that, yeah, like it's it's so good.
Whenever there is a literally people will call you and say, hey,
I have this going on, and you I'll call you
right back, and you hang up and you call doctors
and nurses and you know it is amazing, Like it
is great for you to have all of those lines open.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
All right, let's talk about you. Let's talk about your pain.
So you have been experiencing lats of pain. You've talked
on this podcast before and even to a point where
there have been listeners of this podcast that have reached
out to you about one of the biggest regrets that
you think that you've ever done in your life.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I think, I know, I know, yeah, which is getting
breast and plants put in.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I wish I never ever would have done that. I
would say before then, you know, when I got sick,
I got sick. I could get over it. You know,
I pushed through a lot of stuff. But ever since
I had my implants put in, which I think disrupted
my whole immune system because.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
You had amazing immune system when you and I, you know,
were early in our stages of our relationship, like you
never got sick if I got it, got healthy fast. Yeah,
And then literally the moment that you went and got
breast in plants put in all of a sudden, you
would be sick.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
It was like, well, it started off.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
It started off with first physical things like I developed
tennis elbow and golfer's elbow. Within six months of putting
my implants in, I gained weight. I couldn't get my
weight off. I had joint problems all over my body.
My immune system tanked. When I, like you just said,
when I got sick, I would get really really sick.
I'd get a cold and it would last forever like

(06:53):
it just which wasn't like me. So for me and
I have, you know, reasons to believe of all anything
that you put in foreign inside of your body. The
first clue that it's just not number one, it's not
natural anyway. But your body forms a shell around your
implant because it's trying to protect your body from a

(07:14):
foreign substance. And inside of those bags are toxins that
you know, you can google and look up what is
inside of implants. There it's poison, it's poisoned. Some of
them rupture. Mine did not rupture, but some rupture and
leak into your body. And women just don't know about it.

(07:37):
To me, I just think they are poison toxic bags
that unfortunately, and I was a victim to it too.
You want to look better, you want to look better
in an outfit, or you want to feel better about yourself.
For me is I just wanted to feel better. I
wanted them ever since I had Jacob, and I waited
and waited and waited and waited and waited, and just
finally said, I'm getting them put in. Went to a

(07:59):
great surgeon, had them put in. They looked amazing. I
loved the way they looked for a while, and then
I just felt like they literally were killing me. And
it didn't. It took me a couple I had them
put in, and then two years I had them taken out.
And it took me a while to realize, Okay, this

(08:20):
really could be the cause of it, this is what's
going on. I joined a couple of Facebook groups. There's
just something called breast implant illness, which I fully believe
I had. And then you have to research to find
a good surgeon who will take them out. Fully, because
I talked to the surgeon that put them in, He's like,
I don't think you should take him out, but I'll
take him out for you. How I'm going to take

(08:42):
him out though it. You know, he was just gonna
take out the implant. But cut that protective layering that
you're the capsule it's called that forms around the implant.
We just leave those in there. Well, that's holding some
of the toxins in your body. It's like this just
big thing that is waiting. And you find a doctor
that we found a doctor, innovative doctor. Actually he is

(09:03):
probably one of the best in the country. But he
and he's from Missage and he's from he is here
in Michigan. There are a couple of doctors I looked into,
But why travel across the country when you have an
amazing doctor here. And the most important thing too, is
you want to have a doctor when you look at
them and say I have this, and I have this,
and I have this and I have that, and they
look at you and they say, I get it, I

(09:23):
get it, I understand, and this is how we're going
to take care of it.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So this is the thing that I think really open
your eyes to medicine at that moment, because there are
so many times where you go to the doctor and
the first thing that the doctor wants to do is
just find medicine to help make you better. You became
more aware that it was more than just throw medicine

(09:48):
at it. It was what is the root cause of this?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Right, So there's a wound, there's an open wound. I
don't want a butterfly band aid to like hold it
together and then you move again and then it pops
back open with something else. I want to know what
the cause is. And that is my whole thing right now,
Like I'm dealing with something that there is in I
know what's going on. There are I'm getting tested for

(10:13):
a lot of things. Some are pretty scary. I'm going
to get upset just because you feel like you're not
beating hurt. Like I know I don't have some of
these scary things. I have markers for them, and I
get it. We have to rule them out. And I

(10:34):
was expecting answers yesterday that A're like, no, you totally
do not have that. We just had to test it
to rule it out. Unfortunately, it came back that I
have to do further testing because I do have some
markers for it. But in my heart of hearts, I
know I don't have it. I just know I don't
have it, and I was expecting some other tests to

(10:58):
come back like this is what it is. Fortunately it
came back that it's not what it is, which had
been so much easier to accept than what this other
looming thing is. But I know in my gut, I know,
I know, I know, I know that it's not that
bad thing. It's I believe that I have toxins floating

(11:21):
in my body still from my implants. And unfortunately, regular
doctors don't dig deep because that's just not how their
tests work. Like they stop at well, your levels are
within normal range with this. Your levels are in normal
range with this, but you know it's a little bit

(11:42):
off right here. We can give you a pill to
take care of that. Well, I don't believe in that,
and I'm not starting a pill for that because that's
not the root cause. What is the root cause? And
I just I think it really sucks that most doctors
are trained, They're literally trained. If your number is here,
you medicate it with this. If your number is here,

(12:04):
you medicate it with that. Well, why why is my
number there? What is going on else inside of me
that is causing that number to be there? There are
things that, of course you need Western medicine, medicine for
I'm not here to say don't believe your doctors and
don't where I'm against that at all, because I'm not
at all. But I also think and and by the way,

(12:27):
they only have fifteen twenty minutes with you to discuss
what your symptoms are, and then they just you feel
almost not heard when you say this is what is
going on, like it's this, this, this, and then they
try to band aid it with something that isn't even
what you're saying is going on. It's just very frustrating.
It is so frustrating. And then the road I am

(12:51):
going down and on currently is one that I know
it's not. It's not that, like I know it's I
can feel it in my gut. It's not it. I
will I am going to go down the road with
them and see a specialist and I know it's not it.
But I know it's not it. But okay, I'm going

(13:12):
to play this game with you. But then I'm going
to take a detour. And I'm also doing that because
I think it's setting a good example for you, and
it's setting a good example for the boys. Because let's
just say it is it. Let's just say it is
that scary thing. I will, I will accept it, and
I will deal with it. But and it's not cancer.

(13:35):
I don't even want to think it's cancer. It's not cancer.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's not cancer. But it's not great, it's not good.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
But I will accept it, and I will, but I'm
also going to find ways to deal with it. I'm
not going to succumb to it. I'm going to figure
this out, but I'm also going to take a detour
from it. And in addition too, I'm going to go
to more functional medicine doctors who do get to the

(14:03):
root of things. And unfortunately it's not covered by insurance,
which is bullshit, because this is the problem, like this
should be covered. This it's it's it sucks because it's
because big pharma controls government.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yes, I want to hold your hand for a second
because I love you.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
And this woman never ever ever complains about her pain
like she's in pain.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
She complains about her pain, it's bad fucking pain.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
She doesn't she really lets a lot of stuff go.
So I know you're in a lot of pain, and
I'm sorry that you're going through this. I'm glad that
you're getting emotional over this because if honestly it's this
has been a week where I'm like, why is she?
You know, I know she's freaked out. You've shown very
signs signs to me this week of like depression, which

(14:55):
scares me.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well, when they throw out a scary diagnosis that is
very depress and then you think, okay, throw out those things,
but it's not it at all, Like it's not it.
And then you go for a test and they're like,
well you have signs of it, and so that is
very depressing and scary, but it's also not the definitive.

(15:17):
Like you, it's not definitive. So I will do deeper
testing and more, and I just fully believe that it's
going to come back that it's not it.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I love you, I'm here for you. You're going to fight this.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
You're going to fight whatever this is, and then you're
going to be a great voice to let people know
what to do.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
But one thing I'd love to ask our listeners is
you know, as you're listening to this, if you've gone
through exactly what Chelsea's talking about and the frustrations, and
maybe you found some answers that were great answers or
people that were great people to dm us and to
tell us and to tell her, you know.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
What, I'm looking for a really amazing I have a
number for an amazing functional.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
What is a functional medicine doctor?

Speaker 5 (16:01):
So they go beyond just your regular labyric, right, So
they're going to look for the root cause.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
To see if there's some kind of an you know, simply.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
And it's so like I firmly believe that I have
toxinsloading in my body, not only from my implants, but
I think that that then led to listen, we all
have toxins in our body from the food we eat,
from the chemicals that are in the air, like we all.
But you can overload your system, which I think putting
the implants in my body completely overloaded my system, and

(16:34):
then these other things come in and so it's like
a cup that is full or almost full, and putting
the implants in, I put a rock in that cup,
and so everything started overflowing and everything in my system
just had to freak out.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
You put two rocks.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Two, and so I just I you know, I've tried
a lot, I did a lot of research, and then
I think not I think I know I got COVID
right after I took my implants out in January.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Of twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
And then in March, before we all knew what COVID
really was, I got COVID and I had it pretty bad.
But I think that I think that that was just
the start of my downfall, and so I've just been
overloaded over in. My immune system is just tanked. And

(17:33):
I meet and I've tried everything, like literally, I've I'm
the girl who will try everything if you tell me
this doctor is great. And there are a lot of
things I have not done so far. I have not
seen a functional medical doctor yet. And that's and I'm
really lucky because right beside me, I have an amazing

(17:56):
best friend who has a brilliant mind about this and
so I get to bounce things off of her all
of the time. She is a PA, so she has
a medical background, so she just has all of this
stuff that and now she's dipping into the wellness arena

(18:18):
she has for the past couple of years. So it's
just like amazing. I know, surrounding me, I have such
an amazing support group and wealth of information, but I
just I have.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You can figure it out, net will listen.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well That's the thing too, is the listening part. Like
I would implore every doctor even if you think your
patient is crazy, because I'm sure my doctor right now
thinks I'm insane because everything he throws at me. And

(18:58):
I can be a very hard patient because I not
the patient that is like take this, take this. If
you tell me to take it, I'm going to research it.
I'm going to figure out why. You're going to have
to tell me why. And if I don't want that
in my body, I'm not doing it. So I have
no problems seeing that's.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Hard because I mean, listen, why do these medical ads
on TV have more disclaimer.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Than they have?

Speaker 5 (19:19):
And you take this and then it leads to this
so you can take another dog, to take another dog,
I am not. I will take supplements, you know, but
I just so I'm a different you breed with that.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I want to sure.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I want to go back to something so you don't
get teared up much. I mean, people who listen to
this podcast know if you get teared up, and you
got teared up a couple of times, that there's something
there is are your tears fears? Are your tears thinking
to the boys and you have not talked about this
to many people. You've talked to a couple of your

(19:53):
friends and your mom and dad.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Fear of yeah, I mean, if it is what they
are going down towards, yeah, I am afraid of that
for sure, but it's not I'm not gonna let it
take over my whole brain and I'm just I'm not
letting it go there. So the fear of that, I honestly, honestly,

(20:18):
honestly feel that we are going to go to this
specialist that they want me to go to, and he's
going to look at everything and he's gonna say, you
know what, it's Yes, it's mimicking it, but it's it's
not it, and we're gonna watch you because it could
be all these other things. I've seen things that mimic it,

(20:38):
but it's not it. Like I just I think that
that I'm believing that that is going to be with
a specialist and I'm going to go to a functional
doctor and they're gonna say, Okay, the root causes you
of all of these toxins. Let's start eliminating these toxins
and your body can heal. Because again, it's like, I
just think I have that over the cup that has

(21:02):
been overfilled, and I plopped two rocks in it, like
you said, and it just the cup is overflowing and
I can't for some reason, I just can't catch up
to make everything better. And you know, maybe it's just
stripping away, taking this out of my life and this
out of my meaning, you know, or putting like a

(21:27):
detox or for the least, lack of better terms, like
something just to get rid of all of the toxins
in my body. And if it's a long journey, it's
a long journey, but like doing one thing at a time,
and I firmly, firmly believe that that's what it is.
I just have to rule things out, you know. But

(21:47):
it so to get back to the emotional. Yes, I'm
I'm scared. I feel like I'm not being heard by
my doctor with some things. And I get it.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I feel like, what are you scared about?

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Well, I'm scared off it is what I don't want
it to be.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
What scares you about that?

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Well, there's no cure, there's no you know, like it's
just that scares me.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
That scares me.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
But you know, in my life would be a little different.
But it's okay. But again, I don't think that I'm
not going down that road. I'm just not going to
accept it and believe it.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
You guess some amazing friends. I heard your friend Leah,
who you know, battled stage four cancer and one of
the worst forms of cancer ever. You know, I heard
her on the phone with you, and she's like, here's
somebody that we look at you and I look at
like a superhero. Yeah, and she you can tell she's
there to fight with you. Jessica, who you talked about earlier,

(22:51):
is there to fight with.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You, your mom and dad and me, and you know.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very lucky. I And I know, like
there's a there is a reason why everyone is flying
in tonight. You know, they're coming in for my birthday anyway,
but there's a reason why my support group is here
right now. I'm gonna have some other tests done, and

(23:17):
so there's a reason. I know it. I know there's
a reason why they're here right now. It's not just,
of course, thank god, it's for my birthday, but it's
also I think that, you know, I need them here
to support me right now. So but if I am
gonna I am going to be fine whatever the diagnosis

(23:39):
is I'm gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
What do you need from from me?

Speaker 5 (23:46):
I just need you to ask me how I'm feeling
about things, not and not all the time, Like you
and I had this discussion the other day, like I
don't want you to ask me because you are very sweet.
What can I do for you? What can I do
for you? Well, you can stop asking me that question
because it's driving me crazy. But I just need you,

(24:08):
like when they said to me, this is what we
think it is. I have to process a lot of
it and I do a lot of that internally, like
and that's just how I am and that's how So
I need you just to say to me every once
in a while, not all the time, but just how
are you feeling with that? And just listen and not

(24:30):
try to solve it because you can't solve it. I
can't solve it right now, like I'm going to find
the people that can solve it. So I just need
you to sit with me on that, because again, you
and I are so different and how we deal with things.
So I just need you to hear me that. That's
all I need you to say is how are you
feeling with this? And I'll tell you, and if I

(24:54):
don't want to talk about it at that moment, it's
nothing against you. My brain is overloaded with a lot
of stuff right now that I'm just trying to pick
through and process and try to figure out a plan
and a route and how I can get through this
and I will get through it and everything is going
to be fine. I firmly believe that it's just you

(25:14):
got to get through the scary parts.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
When you say that, I appreciate that you, though sometimes
will push off and go. You'll ask me about me
because I think you're deflecting you. You don't want to
talk about you, right, You've always been that way, So
I need you also to know that it ain't about me.
And unless deflecting to me makes you feel better, you know,

(25:38):
and just be vocal with that.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Well, your ankle is hurting me right now, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's my fucking ankle. Seriously, it's not as big as this.
I'm proud of you for the fact that you haven't
lost your mind, because you know, I'm a hyperchondriactor. I
would have already yeah, been calling every one of my
friends and telling them about this. Yeah, although we are

(26:03):
talking about this very vaguely on this podcast, which probably
you should call your son and who listens to this podcast,
Jacob and let him know ahead of time before you.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I just thought about that right now. I thank god
the other two don't listen.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
The other two.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
It will be like five years from now and they'll
be like, yeah, Mom talked about it in the podcast,
don't you remembering?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I am very very proud of you, as I always am,
because I think you're so damn smart. I think you're
way smarter than you give yourself credit for. But everybody
knows how smart you are. But I think that this
is something that we're going to figure out. Maybe a
listener or to might listen to this and say, here's

(26:52):
what happened to me, and there might be some commonality
to that and they have found somebody good. So would
love for your help. But then I think that one
of the things that I think you've done a great
job of over the years is that you've done a
great job of advocating.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Well, if anything, when I figure this out, I'm going
to be the loudest mouth on what I think, you
know people should not and should be doing. And it's
really again, it's really sad to me that function medicine
is not covered by insurance. I mean, somehow that's got
to change too, And I think there's a reason for it,

(27:29):
because they solve the problem by doing all this other things,
getting rid of things in your body by detox or whatever,
and then you're fine. So there's not a lot of
money in it right for insurance companies.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But all right, well, I love you very much and
I'm proud of you for at least being open enough
to talk about this on the podcast, because I think
this is something that's scary, and uh, it is very
you would think you wouldn't want to do it. But
all right, now I'll go and talk more about my ankle.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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