Guerdy Abraia; Dr. Ava Shamban; Dan Gilman; Darryll Stinson; Danielle Fette

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by Co two Lift, we're featuringa doctor, Ava Shamban. She's an
American celebrity dermatologist who has made numerousappearances on TV and cosmetic publications. She's
an authority on the subject. She'scurrently a Board certified dermatologist based in la
and founder of Ava MD. Shejoins me to chat skincare, post procedure

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and will also get her take onthe newest and latest trend of carboxy therapy
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which is a movement of leaders restoringthe planet and helping humanity to heal
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Miami Gerdi Abrera, chatting breast cancerawareness, her breast cancer journey, and
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a Coconut. Today, we're joinedby real housewife of Miami, Gerdi Abrera,
founder of the well known event hostingcompany Gerdi Design. She's a breast
cancer survivor who passionately shares her journey. She rose to fame as an international
event planner and cast member in theBravo series The Real Housewives of Miami.
She joins me today to chat breastcancer awareness, her diagnoses, and what

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life after treatment is like. Welcomingnow to the show. Is the beautiful,
the stunning Gerdi Abrera. Welcome tothe show, my friend. Thank
you so much for having me.I am looking very natural oal today.
Indeed you are for those of youthat are listening and not watching just yet,
she is glowing. Now you were, Let's jump right in. You

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were diagnosed with stage one B invasiveestragen receptor and doctor carcinoma in sidchu dcis.
It's a non invasive version of it. Now, your treatment plan was
really expensive. I read about it. It included laptami, four rounds of
chemo, fifteen rounds of radiation,and just a ton more twenty rounds of

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radiation to be exact. Yeah,ended up being way more than we thought
because of the oncotype score. Dearlord, can you share with us the
journey from your diagnoses to where youare now in terms of your breast cancer
treatment and your recovery process. Absolutely, I mean he started out, as
you said, as a dcis noninvasive tumor. And then as they were
doing the MRIs when they found behindit hidden the actual invasive tumor, which

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is the Stage one B. Andso I had to receive radiation and chemo
because of the fact that the testcalled ancotype is where you are able to
determine the reoccurage rate of your cancerwithin the next ten years, and mine
came up above the medium score oftwenty five. So mine was twenty nine
above and that's what deemed mes fitfor receiving those two you know, invasive

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treatments. But I'm here today,I'm cancer free and i am very healthy.
Thank God, God bless God alwayshas a bigger plan. I say
to people all the time, thereare no coincidences. You are exactly where
you are supposed to be. Andof course you have gone where there was
no path and left this great,big trail. Interestingly enough, according to

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the American Cancer Society, breast canceris the most common cancer among women worldwide,
was about one in eight women inthe United States developing invasive breast cancer
over their lifetime. And I'm gladto say that now you are a survivor.
Now, as someone who has experiencedbreast cancer firsthand, what advice would
you give to individuals who are currentlygoing through a similar journey? To be

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honest, I mean, it's obviouslyearly detection. I was getting my mamograms
regularly, so I was never inpain. It was just literally whatever they
said was on the screen is whateverwas happening in my body. So just
stay in tuned with your body.Do not, you know, cancel your
appointments. Make sure that you knowthat these are the most important the promise
of your life. So just makesure that you do that. And a
big advice I like to get peopleis to really be selfish. Do you

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boo boo is what I'd like tosay. Do you first, and then
when you're okay, everybody else aroundyou will view. I love that that
piece of advice because we as women, as mothers, as wives, as
business owners, as entrepreneurs, weforget that take care of us. We
are emotionally beholden to everything and everyoneelse around us except ourselves. And so

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you're right, you doing you first, and you said something and you hit
it right on the stage at whichbreast cancer is diagnosed greatly influences treatment options
and prognosis, and your diagnosis ofstage one B invasive estrogen receptor and doctor
carsonoma. The dcis the non invasivereflects the importance of early detection and screening

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because had you waited, your outcomecould have been much different. Right literally,
And you know, I received messageson Instagram and this is only via
DMS of people who are willing toeven share that they would say watching your
journey made me go for the firsttime because I was so scared and I
am over forty. So I've beendeclining these mammograms and I did find out
that I had it and now they'reunder treatment. So I'm like at four,

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didn't buy county all these dms,And I'm like, oh my god,
I can't believe that I'm actually savinglives just through sharing my story.
You know, so yeah, soimportant. And you have such an impact
on so many women who love andfollow you, not for being a real
housewife, like that's exactly almost Itssignificant to who you have become in this
journey. And I think the reasonwhy people have such an affinity and a

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loyalty to you when they watch youand they watch your story is because they
grew with you. They cried withyou. Now, how has your perspective
on life changed after facing such asignificant health challenge like breast cancer? It
has affected everything around me. Youknow. The cliche is obviously you appreciate
every day one day at a time. But the main thing, honestly for

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me, and I'm going to sayit again, is really to be selfish
and to listen to your body,because you know, the first thing I
did when I wake up is likethe alarm goes off, you go drop
off your kids, you come home, you know, you make breakfast,
you do all these things around youand you get busy. But you have
to understand that if you wake upone day and something's that feeling right and
you say later, no, thatlater could be never in the future.
So for me, it's always nowabout like how am I feeling today,

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and really listening to myself and mymentra Being in tune internally will help you
feel in tune externally. So forme, it's really about that being selfish
thing and to look around and realizesometimes you got to pick your battles.
When you argue with someone and it'sabout some bs, you kind of like,
you know what, you could winthis one because I'm playing you know,

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chess at this point, I'm notpaying checkers, you know. So,
yeah, you try to set yourenergy for the stuff that really matters.
That's great advice. Now, there'svarious factors, of course, can
increase the risk of developing breast cancer, including age and family history and genetic
mutations such such as the Braca oneand Braca two gene mutations. Yeah,

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and certainly, and and of coursethere's certain non cancerous breast diseases, right,
exposure to estrogen, reproductive factors suchas early menstruation or late menopause,
and obesity and alcohol. So there'sa lot of outside factors. Now,
breast cancer awareness is crucial, yetoften misunderstood. So what are some misconceptions

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about breast cancer that you'd like toaddress? I mean, a lot of
times like you know, oh,it is the stress. Yes, everything
can be a contributor a contributor toit, but there's not really one main
thing. I think obviously mine wasdeemed SEO receptors. So what did I
have to do hysterectomy? What amI on timoxifen? What I you know,
hormone therapy shot every month, Sowe're trying to suppress my estrogen level.

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And I was not a genetic,you know, Kenneddate. I was
actually a mutation, So my canceris a mutation. I'm one of seven
children. Of seven, five ofus are girls. So I'm looking at
my sisters who actually most of themlive in Europe. Most of them were
natural with their hair care. Iwas already putting relapses since I was eleven.
I was, you know, soyou're looking at healthier, You're looking
at what you're drinking. The watermatters to me, all those different elements

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that skincare, hair care, everythingthat you're you're breathing, What are we
breathing, what kind of air?It all has a It's all a contributor.
But there really isn't one main oneplus one equals two type of things
that we have discovered yet. Sofor me, I'm just really really re
assessing my surroundings that what am Idoing for myself? Which brings me into

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my last question. Here's support systemplayed a huge role in your recovery.
How did you lean on them duringthose difficult moments. I had to physically
lean on them, honestly, becauseyou know, the chemo puts you out,
and so you know, the thingwith chemo is like this waltz right.
One week seven days you're physically inbed and cannot move because of the
bone spacimen pain. And then twoweeks you're like walking around like everything's fine,

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but you know that in the nextfollowing week you're back to ground zero.
So that that dance of like oneweek sick, two weeks off,
back to sick two weeks off isa mental roller coaster. And I physically
leaned on them and mentally and emotionallyon them. And obviously I'll higher power
too, because you have to sayto yourself, Okay, I'm the chosen
one, Okay, I'm the strongone, but can I get through this

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tunnel? I did? I makeit and see the light. So for
me, it was always about seeingthe light at the end of the tunnel
and not wavering to know that I'mgoing to make it down this tunnel.
That was That was it. Soyeah, you know you're an old soul,
right, I am one hundred percentAnd also I've been listening to Old
Goldie since I was sixteen. Backin high school, people thought I was
nuts, and I'm like this magicmoment nut job. Yeah, I'm an

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old soul. Well listen. Itwas such a pleasure chatting with you today.
I really really had a good timehere. Are so transparent. I
can't wait to see everything that's gonnaunfold for you this year, and really
wishing you and your family the bestof luck. Thank you so much.
You're amazing. That's about to youtoo. Thank you. That was our
Hidjation with Heart segment brought to youby One's Body Coconut. That was the

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Today the Amazing doctor joins me tochat combo therapy. Why no single solo
method is an effective approach to skincareand the newest trend of carbon dioxide therapy

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for the skin welcoming down to theshow. Is my expert at hand on
Mike on expert on the microphone,Doctor Ava Shamband, Welcome superstar, Thank
you so much. Like what anintro. I love that. Well,
you know, we got to speakyour language. Now I'm gonna shift the
narrative just a little bit. Writtennow to carbon dioxide therapy from the skin.
So I was reading an interesting studydirectly off of their website and COO

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two is used alone or in conjunctionwith other procedures. But COO to lift
increased skin hydration by more than onehundred and seventeen percent compared to baseline and
with these improvements really it said lastingup to three weeks. So the physiological
effects also include increases in tissue oxygenation, flow rate and vasodilation you know,

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neo and geogenesis of the skin.So my question to you right now is
carboxy therapy seems to be a poptrending skincare in the search engine of Google
and often compared to a hyperbaric oxygenchamber. Can you elaborate on what carboxy
therapy is and why it has gainedsuch popularity. Absolutely, carboxy therapy is

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one of our newest dividated aways.It's actually just a mask, but it's
one of our newest tricks and proceduresthat really delivers results. So carboxy therapy
can be used on its own.It's a mask. It almost kind of
looks like silly putty. You mixup, you mix up to product two
little packets together to activate it.And the way it works is you apply

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it to the face the neck ofdeclotage. We use it all the time
immediately following treatment because it accelerates healingand improves results. But it can also
just be used at home before youwalk the red carpet anyway. So the
way it works is it delivers COtwo to the skin, which makes the
skin a little bit more acidic.The oxygen pops off of the emoglobin,

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so you get an internal increased levelof oxygen. What that does is it
opens the vessels. You get deliveryof healing factors, and we see improvements
in migration and glow of the skin, and just overall improvement in the appearance
of the skin. So, asI said, because you're getting very similar
to a hyperbaric oxygen treatment, itwill accelerate healing, give you more hydration

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and is incredibly useful for just improvingthe appearance of the skin, whatever area
of the skin you apply it to. The positive effects of invasive carboxy therapy
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active carbon dioxide. And this whenyou think of it from us, even
a science experiment, this ensures thenormalization with pH and tissues. The method
of delivery has changed since nineteen thirtyand that's what makes this particular product,
COEO to Lift so unique and sustainable. Now, how does COEO to lift
fit into the roadmap of a procedureand why does healthy skin respond better?

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Healthy skin responds better just because allof the functions of the cells are working
optimally. And the way that weuse the carboxy mask is we apply it,
as I said, we apply itto immediately following a laser treatment because
it's going to accelerate healing, reduceany swelling, any inflammation. And the
other times we use carboxy mask isfollowing a treatment several days for the next

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week or so, because once againit's going to reduce any side effects.
And then sometimes we just use thecar boxing math before people go to a
big event or to you know,to a big conference or something. I
had one. I did one theother night because I'm going to at dermatology
conference this weekend. And that's whyyou are fabulously glowing now COEO two lift

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Pro. I had that done ina doctor's office as a medical monotherapy.
I found it to have been extremelyeffective. It was great. I had
really dry skin, and it reallythe healing of wounds, the speedy recovery,
that's what got me the most.I used it on my explant scars
after breast my explant surgery three monthsago, and it's been extremely effective even

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as an aesthetic monotherapy. Now,the founder of Zeo two list has praised
your ability to think outside the box. Can you give an example of how
this mindset has influenced your approach todermatology and skincare innovations. Well? Absolutely,
I would say that one of theone of my specialties has been that
there's no problem too big or youknow, there's nothing that's you can't tackle

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in one way or another, whetherit's scars from an accident from my treated,
scars from airplane crashes, from birdbites from car crashes, or whether
it's just trying to figure out what'sthe best way to contour the face to
address a symmetry differences in the face. And so the way that I found
the best way to do it isto layer all these treatments to figure out

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which which laser is appropriate for whichissue and in the same by the same
token, also which filler is goingto be the right one to use in
which area of the face, andalso which wrinkle relaxer, because there are
a host of each of those.But there's one thing that I always use
now, which is the carboxy mask, the CO two lift mass, because

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it's remarkable how it changes the skinand so quickly after forty five minutes of
using the mask, I couldn't agreemore. Now, are there any specific
conditions or concerns that you find carbondioxide therapy for the skin to be particularly
effective? For carbon dioxide therapy forthe skin is particularly effective if you've had

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to burn. So let's say youeven have accidentally you got a sunburn it's
outstanding for that, or the laseryou were treated with was a little too
hot and you've got some persistent redness, then the carboxy mask is excellent at
that. We know from studies thatuse the carboxing mask on diabetic ulcers,
which of course are very difficult totreat because the small, the small vessels

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in diabetes can be very damaged andso that's why those wounds on a diabetic
leg do not eat. So wesee that applying this mask to people with
diabetic ulcers accelerates, I mean,it allows those wounds to heal as well
as people post surgery like you mentionedyours, but that you know a lot
of surgery for skin cancer or othertypes of cancer, a flat is used

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where you bring one part of theskin over to another side, and so
this particular flat may have a compromisedlike the blood supply may not be enough,
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healing time. Especially useful in breastcancer surgery when oftentimes the nipple is moved
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so this can absolutely reverse prevent thatfrom happening. I started using it on
my nipples immediately after surgery. Nowit's science right. It increases the presence
of wound repair factors and growth factors, which then help cells turnover faster,
and reduces the appearance of aging inscars and stretchmarks and so much more.
I love it for all of thereasons you just stayed in stimulating collagen and

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elasting production, which then promotes elasticityand helps retain hydration, improving local metabolism
and elimination of waste products, whichthen helps the body heal localized damage such
as scars or acting or even hyperplementation. I couldn't endorse this product more.
And you are part of many expertsand surgeons and top dermatologists in your field

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that are really swearing by this.Now. How do you envision the future
of non invasive dermutological treatments evolving overthe next few years. I think the
future is very bright for non invasivetreatments because, if you think about it,
surgery to correct aging is really kindof crude and filled with risk.
You can risk damaging a nerve ifyou're cutting into the fase you it may

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not the results may not be exactlywhat you want. And also people think
the plastic surgery is forever, butit's not. It only lasts about five
or six years max. And sothen a lot of the signs of aging
start to appear again. So theidea of using the all of these technologies
improving over time, the tissue tightening, the muscle stimulation, the way the

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fillers are integrated into the skin,and different types of lasers to address brown
spots, fine lines and reculls,red spots, and also skin conditions like
roseatia and ezema and acne acne scars. That's a big, wonderful use a
wonderful area to treat very effectively.So everything is on the right track to

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improve and becoming more effective. Well, thank you so much for coming on,
doctor Ava. You are amazing.Thank you so much. That was
our going Deep segment brought to youby Co two list, and that was
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Potential segment, brought to you bythe Wellness Way. We're joined by regular
contributor, podcaster and author Dan Gilman, and today he's joined by Darryl Stinson,
author, tedex speaker, coach,and philanthropist. He's also the co
founder of Seeding Greatness, a movementof leaders restoring the planet and helping humanity

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to heal through their stories and transformationalservices. After a tough run as a
D one athlete, Darryl overcame multifule suicide attempts and now empowers many to
discover their purpose and live and leadfrom their highest self. They joined me
today chat about the journey from athletesto motivational speaker, overcoming challenges and building

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a life you love. Welcoming nowto the show is Dan Gilman and Darryl
Since and welcome my friends. Welcome, Hey, so nice to have you
on. So Daryl, before wedive into your recent accomplishments, which there
are many, let's first look backon where you've been, because it's been
quite the journey. So after earninga full ride scholarship to play D one

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football at Central Michigan University, tomy understanding, you sustain the severe back
injury and began numbing the pain bothphysical and emotional, which we know many
have done with opioids, And priorto entering your senior year, due to
heavy opioid use, you were removedfrom the active roster, which sent you
into a dark depression and ultimately tryto take your life multiple times. Now,

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come quite a long way since thistime in your life can you share
with us the turning point that shiftedyou from disparait you're pursuing a path of
healing and empowerment. Yeah, Ibelieve it was Michael Beckwe that says pain
pushes into the vision pools, andthe turning point for me is when the
pain got so bad that it pushedme out of the depression, the heaviness,

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the discouragement that I was under.So we talked about the obioid abuse,
we talked about you know, thedepression, the suicidal attempts, well
ultimately those landing me in a psychiatricunit. And it was there I found
faith, I found purpose, Ifound hope, and then I also learned
that through self care, through mindfulnessexercise, through journaling, through counseling,

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through taking a walk, through breathingmeditative exercises, that I could access the
same feelings of connectedness, of aliveness that I felt from the external stimuli
of sports, even though I wasn'tplaying. And so it showed me that
I could build my life from theinside out and not just the outside end.
It's incredible how you were able tonot only turn your life around,

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but completely shift your path and overallpurpose from athlete to speaker, author and
now entrepreneur. I know Dan hassome questions. Dan take it away.
Yeah, as a former Division oneathlete, what lessons from your sports career
have you applied to overcoming personal challenges? Well, the thing that pain is
temporary and it's part of the process. I think sometimes you know, people

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who haven't participated in you know,high level sport, or you know,
don't invest in their physical physique ata level that pushes them beyond their comfort
zone. That you know, itjust makes sense that you know, no
pain, no gain type of thing. And so you know, sports taught
me that so vividly that yo,pain is to be expected, Failure is
to be expected. It's a partof growth, it's not anti growth.

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And so when I work out,I'm literally pushing my muscles to failure because
that's the point where they grow.If I don't push them to failure,
they kind of just stay toned.But if I push them to a failure,
they get bigger, they get stronger. Another one that I'll mention is
the ability to be coachable. Somany people have you know, defenses up

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and they take it personal when theyget constructive criticism or you know, they
have a hard time really hearing thattype of feedback. But me, I
don't just welcome it, I craveit. I actually seek it out.
I ask for it because after everypractice, after every game, we had
to watch film down to the millisecondto be able to dissect even the minor,

(30:37):
you know, smallest movement. Andso I bring that same mentality into
what I do now in my careeras a speaker and as a coach.
Is like I watch my speeches,I listen to my coaching calls. I
dissect the minute details in order tosee how I can improve. I crave
that feedback, even if it's embarrassing, even if I don't like how I
sound, even if I lost mytrain of thought. I'm willing to look

(30:59):
at it no matter how I seeit is because that is the path to
growth. Boy, you've come fullcircle. Congratulations. Now let's talk a
little bit about athletic identity. Soathletic identity is the degree to which an
individual identifies with the athlete role andlooks to others for acknowledgment of that role.
And many seasoned athletes fall victim tothe extreme and to the extreme end

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of this because there because they viewtheir athleticism as their empire, identity and
sole focus in life. So thisidentity can quickly turn detrimental when an athlete's
career inevitably comes to an end,as you know, especially if it's not
by choice, like in your casewith your career and ending back injury.
Now, bouncing back from this andlearning to transition out of your sport is

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no easy feat, my friend.In fact, I know you have a
whole book dedicated to this concept calledWho Am I After Sports? An Athlete's
Guide to discover new purpose and livefulfilled. So I'd love to know more
about how your mindset had to changeas you moved from being an athlete to
becoming an entrepreneur and motivational speaker.Well, the biggest mindset shift is that

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I had to stop believing that myathletic days were the best days of my
life. I mean literally, theterminology that a lot of athletes use is
the glory days, And for me, that psychology meant that the athletics,
my athletic career was the you know, epitome, the peak of my success,
and so life was just downhill fromthere, and that I had to

(32:31):
immediately overcome that because that was justa discouraging, disempowering way to live and
that just doesn't apply to me andmy athletics. That applies to anyone in
the season of transition. You know, if you were an executive that had
a really great established career for twentyyears and you go into a new season
and you retire, well, nowyou've got to be a beginner at something

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else. And you know it comeswith that identity crisis, you know,
same thing with the relationship, samething with any type of job or career.
When there's a transition, it bringsup ball that. It's interesting because
there's certainly some great lesson to takeaway from career journey. And you know,
I really I thank you for beingso transparent and open to sharing your
story because I know there are lotsof people out there who can relate and

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look to you for inspiration and pavinga new path in life. But again,
easier said than done right now.Interestingly, according to linka Goals Fear
Factor Index in Partnership with YouGov one, three Americans were found to be scared
of failure. In almost half ofthe surveyed adults responded that their fear of

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failure was the biggest barrier to notachieving their goals. In the process of
discovering one's purpose and building a thrivingcareer or business as you and power and
teach many to do, facing failureat some point is clearly inevitable. Right,
So, now I know Dad hasa question pertaining to this, and
I'm interested to hear your answer.Dan, Yeah, this is a really

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interesting question that I love to approach. But how do you approach failure?
And what advice would you give tosomeone who's afraid of failing in their endeavors?
Failure false evidence appearing real. Failure, do the opposite of what it's
telling you to do. That's mymindset around failure. It's a false evidence

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appearing real. It is telling meto do something that I probably need to
do the opposite of it's trying totalk me out of something that I need
to talk myself into. So whenI encounter failure, I see it that
way, and I change my relationshipto it so that I head in the
opposite direction that it's telling me.If it's telling me I shouldn't, I
should. If it's telling me don'tI do. And obviously, if we're

(34:38):
talking about, you know, runningfrom a beer or a lion. That's
different. Like if fears telling meto run, I'm gonna run. But
when it comes to living your dreams, when it comes to doing what's in
your heart to do, and iffear is coming through your mind telling you
don't do it, you're not goodenough, you're not smart enough, you're
not old enough, you're not educatedenough, like you have to say,
listen, that is you fear tryingto talk me out of something that I

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can talk myself into. So I'lltell myself that's how I should do it.
That's how I do it. Theother thing is I intentionally put myself
in an environment that bring up allthe things that fear bring up. So
I walked on fire. For instance, I'm certified firewalk instructor Tony Robbins style,
and the sheer act of walking onfire, feeling that those flames being

(35:21):
lit man, it invokes all ofthose fears. Instead of shrinking powering oh
no, we can't do this,we raise our vibration, we raise our
energy. We put our energy levelat that above a ten because fire burns
out a ten, and by doingso, we're able to walk on hot
cold, and so now my relationshipwith fear changes. When fear gets hot,

(35:44):
I get hotter. When fear getsloud, I get louder, and
that enables me to move through itway more powerfully. That's incredible. I
love the way you That's a greatanalogy. Now let's chat about Second Chance
Athletes, which is an organization youfound it that specializes in helping former and
forgotten athletes succeed in life without thedemands of a sport and help them discover

(36:06):
their identity and purpose or training andcoaching and speaking and connecting them with the
right people and organizations, which iswhat you are incredible at doing. So
can you tell us more about thismovement and what advice you would give to
young athletes who are uncertain about theirfuture beyond sports. Well, yes,
the book got created because at thattime I was felt like I was the

(36:27):
only one in the world struggling withthis thing called athlete transition. When I
started to get vocal about my story, I started to get a huge response
from athletes at college, pro,Olympic, all types of levels, and
they were like, me too,we're struggling. We didn't even know that
it was because of the transition.We thought it was because of this or
that, or the money or whatever, but it's actually the identity challenges that
I'm having in the ship that's creatingso much of the statistics that we see

(36:52):
about bankruptcy, divorce, you know, drug abuse and those type of things.
And so because I saw such aneed for that conversation to be more
prevalent in the mainstream, I startedthat nonprofit organization and started to you know,
in a live interview series and startedto really make this conversation like the
normal. Now, you know,the pandemic happened, you know, tons

(37:15):
of publicity around athletes prioritizing their mentalhealth, some on bios, Michael Phelps,
you know, you name it,and so it's becoming more of a
normal thing that, like transition,is very hard to deal with. One
of my best tips for people isto reach out for help and be vulnerable
about what you're going through. Alot of athletes and really society in general,

(37:36):
were taught that, you know,emotions are our weakness, like the
don't show the enemy, your opponenta flaw or weakness, don't show a
kink in your armor. And sowhen it comes to being vulnerable about the
things that they're really struggling with.They lacked language, They lack, you
know, the wherewithal to be ableto articulate and express that. And so

(37:57):
the best thing you can do isbe a little bit more vulnerable about the
emotions that are coming up for you, knowing that being non emotional may have
helped you win but in sports,but it's not going to help you to
win in life. And so emotionsare a gateway to connection and overall healthy
life. And whatever you don't express, you suppress. And so I highly

(38:19):
encouraged to get in the healthy processof expression through journaling, through counseling,
and having conscious, vulnerable, courageousconversation with people that you know, like
and trust that will start to helpathletes to really get the support that they
need, because people can't help youconquer what you're unwilling to confront. Nicely
said, well, thank you forjoining us, my friend, we are

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out of time. It was sucha pleasure, Dan, Thank you so
much for bringing on such an incredibleguest. Thank you. That was the
Discover Your Potential segment sponsored by theWellness Way. That was the incredible Daryl
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(39:02):
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the Voice of New York Welcome back, beautiful Tri State Area. You're listening
to a moment of Zen right hereon seven ten WR, the Voice of
New York iHeartRadio. I'm your host, Zenzam's coming up in our Trailblazers segment
brought to you by Metropolitan Life stToday, we're chatting with Danielle Fetti,
founder of Tech. Fat Tech isan innovative biotech company in the regenitive medicine

(40:08):
space. It's a one of akind medical device company working to overcome the
limitations in medical technology, as wellas of course, unprecedented breakthroughs in regenitive
medicine. Fettech's groundbreaking multi tissue platformgives the body the power to heal in
a natural, safe way. Theproduct not only helps skin to heal quickly

(40:30):
post treatment, but also promotes healthier, brighter, and firmer skin. I
can't wait to hear all about thisproduct line. She's going to join me
to chat about skin rejuvenation, breakthroughtechnology for burn victims, and how regenitive
medicine is at the heart of itall now. Regenitive medicine is focused on
developing and applying new treatments to healtissues and organs and restore function lost due

(40:52):
to aging, disease, damage,or defects. The human body has a
natural ability to heal itself in somany ways. Don't take my word for
it. Take our expert on themicrophones word for it. Welcoming out to
the show. Is my expert athand, Danielle Feti, Welcome to the
show, superstar, Thanks for havingme. I'm so excited to chat with

(41:13):
you. So from nurse by tradeworking in woundcaren trauma, you and Hubby
Clay, a tissue engineer who inventsmedical devices, had visions on how to
advance the regenitive medicine space, andto my understanding, you just wanted to
help patients in need, so youfounded fet Tec. Can you tell us
more about the journey that led youto founding this company and how did your

(41:34):
backgrounds in nursing and tissue engineering convergeto form this incredibly innovative company. Well,
from the time I can remember asa young girl, I always wanted
to help people heal. But Ihad to take a really a traditional route
to get here because I struggle inschool. I'm dyslexic, so reading and
writing was challenging. However, Iplayed lacrosse, which helped me get into

(41:55):
college, and in college I tookup nursing. When I was doing my
rounds in the hospital, I realizedlike this wasn't for me. I didn't
feel fulfilled. I didn't know why, but I saw I felt myself doing
something bigger to impact more people.So I jumped over to the medical device
and pharmaceutical world, but I jobpopped early on company after company. Trying

(42:16):
to find my way and fel fulfilled, I came upon regenerative medicine and that
was it. Fell in love.One night I met my husband, who
wasn't my husband then, who attendedto dinner, and so we were trying
to mutually help a patient with arare bacteria flesh eating disease, and through
our mutual passion of wanting to helpthis patient, we discovered that together we

(42:39):
could move mountains in the hospital.We were able to take a product that
he helped develop for this company andshare it with patients and areas within health
care that the company at the timejust was too narrow minded to see that
we could help. And we wouldbrainstorm like how to advance the re regeneritive

(42:59):
medice in space, how to makeit better. Well, one day we
got fired from this company, andat the time I was devastated, but
it was the biggest blessing ever becauselooking back, when you have a company
that answers to a board. Theirmoney driven and everything's about the bottom line,
the money. And we know thatwe're all going to be patients one
day, and I would want totreat someone in the hospital the way I

(43:20):
would want myself to be treated ora loved one. So I told him,
you know, you're an engineer.You have helped develop every big regenerative
medicine product used in the hospitals todate. We have experience in the all
ends of medical device. Between thetwo of us, Let's create something better
and let's do it ourselves. Let'snot take outside funding. Let's spend our

(43:40):
own money so we don't answer itanyone and by that route, if we
get f day approval, we'll beable to bring out a better product to
the patients that need it, wayfaster than any other company could. Fast
forward to today, fed Tech isdescribed as a pioneering company in the regenerative
medicine space. Could you elaborate onhow you're mo T tissue platform works and

(44:01):
its potential impact on patient care.Yeah. So, when I started using
regenerative medicine and was introduced to thesetype of products used in the hospital,
it was around two thousand and seven, and from two thousand and seven to
twenty eighteen when we were FDA cleared, all devices would derive from one tissue
source. And when you only useone tissue, you're limited to the biomoleclecules

(44:25):
and that one tissue source. Sowe thought, how can we give the
body more of the good stuff itcould potentially use to heal, because the
truth isn't healing. We don't knowexactly what the body needs or when it
needs it. We can throw arounddifferent conversations about various collegen types, hyaluronic
acid, growth factors, exosomes,but at the end of the day,
it's an abundance of all of thesethings, leaving it up to your own

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body to decide what it needs andwhen it needs it. So we took
more than one tissue, developed themulti tissue platform, and we now have
a product that can give your bodylike the most robust amount of ingredients if
you will to remote on repair.I mean it's interesting because if you look
at the preclinical treatments of burn woundmodels, inclusion of stem cells resulted in

(45:08):
better wound healing by inducing improved granulation, tissue formation, collagen deposition healing,
speed, wound appearance, amount ofscarring, presence of adnexcel structures, and
even regulation of inflammatory markers. Inthis case, stem cells are at the
heart of the treatment. Regarding yourtechnology, how does your multi tissue platform

(45:29):
work to promote skin regeneration and healingand what sets it apart from existing products
and technologies on the market. Theeasiest way to describe it is, Let's
say your house burned down to theground, right, and I gave you
a hammer, some nails and woodand a builder. That builder could build
something. They could build some structure. Would it be a remodel of your
home? No? But if Igave them an abundance of tools, and

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I gave them plumbing, an electrical, and structure and instructions on how to
use all of that and what Iwanted, your house could get remodeled.
So I equate that to our productversus some of the other products out there.
There's a lot of great products thathave great biomolecules that will aid in
regeneration. But the more of thegood stuff you give your body, the

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more your body's able to pick andchoose what it needs to remodel. And
I've seen miracles and I've worked withthese type of products for a really long
time, and it wasn't until ourproduct was cleared in the hospital and I
would say, listen, I knowit's scary to try a new product,
but let's find a patient that's inyour hospital right now that you're praying at
night, you have something comes acrossyour desk to help this patient because you

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don't know what else to do,and they have an open abdomen with a
huge infection. And everyone in theregenerative medicine space knows that if you have
an infection present, you cannot oryou should not heal until you treat the
infection. Where we will able tosimultaneously heal the infection, sorry, heal
the wound and treat the infection atthe same time, and patient after patient,
I would just see miracles. AndI didn't think as a wound cur

(46:58):
nurse that we could hear patients withpoor blood flow to an area I thought
we would have to amputate their leg. We would hire a product and it
would work and we would save alimb. And so I'm very proud of
the product we have, and itis definitely advanced because we're sealing, we're
seeing healing that I never thought wewould see very quickly. Well, you

(47:19):
set up to do exactly that whenyou were a child, and look how
full circle you've come. And whenyou look at non invasive products, they're
on the rise, according to AmericanSociety of Plastic Surgeons, and demand for
minimally invasive cosmetic procedures continues to risetoday, indicating a need for innovative products.
Now, obtaining FDA clearance on agel for the aesthetic space that acts

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as a magnet to bring stemselves tothe injured quote unquote area signaling for the
body to harness its own regeneritive capabilitiessounds rather complicated. Could you speak to
the challenges you've faced in obtaining FDAclearance for your products, particularly in such
a cutting edge field like regenerative medicine. Yeah, it's tough. So we
are clear as a medical device.And our first or first and only right

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now, fdaprovo was for a woundpowder. And we have like a book,
probably a foot long, of allthe clinical studies we had to do.
And remember we funded this ourselves,and there was one study in particular
where we kept failing. We weren'table to complete it. Because it was
a viral study, so we hadto prove that if the tissue had virus
on it would wed infect a humanthat we were implant or using our product.

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We don't implant but use it topicallyon a patient, and we were
failing this test and through that discoveryat the time, I was devastated.
I was crying. We didn't havethousands more to shove and redoing this test,
we discovered that we inactivate envelope viruses. At the time, I didn't
know what an envelope virus was,so we googled it and I saw herpes

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and I'm like, oh, well, that's great. In the future,
I do get fever blisters usually oncea year on my lips, I will
be using this. But we justkind of checked it away. This was
a year before COVID broke out.So now COVID breaks out and my husband
googles envelope viruses and says, youknow what an envelope virus is. I'm
like, yes, you told me, it's a herpee. He's like,

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no, coronavirus and some of theworld's most deadliest diseases like obola, zeke,
HIV, hepatitis, and the listgoes on and on, and I'm
like, what. So our missionfrom the powder was to over COVID During
COVID we made our powder into agel because from gel form, we thought
that we could administer it in differentways to help people that had COVID like

(49:37):
inhalation potentially IV. So wombpowder wasfirst. We developed a gel and somewhere
along the way, I love allthings beauty and I sat back and I'm
like, I am seeing the mostbeautiful, stunning result remodeling tissue in burn
patients. In trauma, we wouldhave volumetric tissue loss where a chunk of

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the patient's body was on the sideof the road. And normally only the
old school products we would use,which wouldn't you would still have a concave
area. It still would grow acrossto heel, but you still had it
like a chunk of skin taken out. Where we would use our product and
it would fill in from the baseup and then epithilize over and fascinating.
Yeah. So I was like,gosh, if I love all things beauty,

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I would love to use this onmy face, like post laser for
example. Imagine that mm hmm.So here we are so here we are,
and I'm gonna because I want tobe mindful of the time. So
you've come full circle. Now you'retrying to now replicate what you've done internally
to you know, beautify women,which I can't wait to try this.
But we all know that if dayapproval processes can be so lengthy and rigorous,

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with only a fraction of submitted medicaldevices ultimately receiving clearance. So understanding
these challenges the way you and yourhusband do is so crucial, especially not
only for investors and stakeholders, buteven just to get through the roadmap that
you're supposed to to get your yourproduct to market. Now, looking ahead,
what future developments or expansions do youenvision for fet tech, especially in

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the context of the esthetic and cosmeticspace. Well, we're already used in
hospitals throughout the country and burn traumtrauma won't care. But where we're focusing
right now is working with the governmentto try to bring antiviral to fruition to
help patients, and we are inthe process of getting FDA approval for the
gel, which, like I said, I cannot wait to use that post

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laser and I think this sky's thelimit for the technology and where we can
use this. You are amazing.We are out of time. Thank you
so much for coming on in chattingand really being so transparent and such a
super mama, because I know thatyou juggle so much, but it was
a pleasure chatting with you today.Thank you. That was the incredible Danielle

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Feti. You have to check herout directly on the website. Head to
fet tech dot com, fe TT e h dot com and you can
check her out on the ground atdaniel dot Fetti. You're listening to a
moment of Zen right here on seventen wor the Voice of New York.
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