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podcaster and author, Dan Gilman.He's joined by Kirk Thatcher, Emmy
Award winning writer, producer, director, as well as creature maker and character
designer. He began at age nineteencreating and puppeteering creatures for blockbusters such as
Return of the Jedi, Star Trektwo and three, et Culture Geist,
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and Gremlins. He went on towrite, produce, and direct various Muppet
films, commercials, and even webseries. Most recently, he portrayed the
maniacal monster Hunter in the Marvel televisionspecial Werewolf by Night, and he's currently
directing six episodes on the Nickelodeon animatedcomedy action series Max and the Midnights to
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be released this fall. They're heretoday to chat about storytelling, creature design,
and establishing a creative legacy. We'regoing to be chatting careers, Hollywood
and plans for twenty twenty four.Welcoming down to the show are Dan Gilman
and Kurk Thatcher. Welcome to theshow, gentlemen. Thank you very much.
Kirk, You've had quite the careerspanning all the way back to when
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you were just ten years old makingfilms all involving creatures, spaceships or broad
comedy. Self taught, of course, in the craft of creature effects,
and at nineteen you went on towork at Industrial Light and Magic, working
with a creature, working with basicallycreating creatures for many well known and iconic
films. Cut to today, you'redoing it all. You're an expert creature
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maker, writer, producer, director, actor. I know that is eager
to ask you questions, so Dantake it away. Well, thank you
so much for being here, yourlegend and my personal hero, and it's
a dream dream come true to talkto you. But Kirk, looking back
at your childhood, were there specificmoments or influences that sparked your passion for
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creature design and filmmaking. Yeah,I would say the movie King Kong,
Ray Harry Hausenfels, particularly Jason andthe Argonauts, which all I saw on
television. I was a sixties kid, so watching TV was the babysitter,
so I got to see all thesegreat older sci fi fantasy films. I
think those two again, King Kongand Jason the Argonauts that Ray Harry Alsen
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did really kind of sparked my lovefor filmmaking and creatures, and I just
drew all the time. I wasreally creative. I started out kind of
a very nerdy kid. I reada lot of science encyclopedias. My folks
got a set up encyclopedias, andI just read it. Was fascinated by
the world. You know, you'rea kid and you're just learning about everything.
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And my mom was concerned that Iwould turn into a complete science nerd,
so she thought she could introduce mebecause I didn't read fiction. I
just read, you know, allfactual stuff, nonfiction. So she turned
me onto science fiction and then Iwas hooked into that. And then Star
Trek started airing when I was likefour. I didn't really get into it
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till a little later, as Iwas about eight or nine, But so
all those things just were around,and growing up in La you knew that
working in the film television business wasan actual possibility. It was a career
that was available to people. Andmy next door neighbors and my best friends.
Their dad was a composer and hehad his own post production studio,
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so I kind of grew up aroundit. No one in my family was
in it. But I knew itwas available, so that made it interesting
and exciting. It's interesting because creatureeffects, if you think of it,
are one of the most popular formsof practical effects right because they're made from
a variety of materials. And whenyou think of creature effects, they've been
around since the birth of cinemaon inclassic films like Frankenstein and Dracula, and
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we all know the movies wouldn't becomplete without these creatures, whether it's Godzilla
or Grover. Yes, nice nicebreadth there, Godzilla to growro like that.
Well, in your opinion, notto shift gears, But how does
effective creature design and contribute to theart of storytelling and film and television.
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How does the art of effective creaturedesign? Well, it all comes down
I mean I wordd early on.It comes down to human psychology. You
know, Frankenstein is a different kindof creature than Godzilla, but they both
sort of have pathos. You know, they're both misunderstood. And then you
get to the Muppets, who arekind of a band of outcasts. And
I think it comes down to whathumans relate or don't relate to. And
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I think the alien the Xenomore fromthe movie Aliens had no face, you
know, just teeth and a tap, and that plays on our fears of
like something without a face is terrifyingto us because you don't know where it's
looking. It makes you feel morelike a prey than a predator. And
in the movie Predator, you knowthis kind of scorpion face thing. I
think it's effective if you start withhuman nature and human psychology and what triggers
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are feelings of terror or passion orlaughter, evoken emotion. It's all about
emotion. And interestingly enough, whilefilmmaking technology has significantly advanced and continues to
improve, bringing creatures to life onscreen is still no easy feet because a
poorly designed creature can be distracting andtake the audience out of the immersive world
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the filmmakers have works so hard tocreate, and simply put, a creature's
design and execution can make or breaka film. I always say that absolutely.
I think what happened with computer graphics, which are amazing and a great
tool in the toolbox, is theyfound you could kind of do anything,
and so things creatures got a littlemore detailed, in extravagant and sort of
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lost their focus. I think Oneof the things that's so successful about the
Muppets is that they're very distilled,Like you know, they're very simple shapes
and colors and not only kids,but they read quickly, I think is
what you would say. And oneof the things I found as a creature
designer is you want that impression.You know, is it scary, is
it horrifying? You need to haveit read quickly. And again that comes
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down to eye shape and eye placement, and eye size and where the mouth
is, how the mouth moves.All that stuff comes into play. And
that's kind of the fun of itis you get to be your own doctor
Frankenstein and or you know, yourown kind of biologist and create something that
looks real, has a versas melitudethat you believe that, oh, I
believe that came out of the water. I believe that came from space.
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Can you also discuss a project whereyou felt you were breaking new ground or
in special effects or creature design?Sure, I mean I think the Well
Boy Well Gremlins where I was youknow, I didn't I was design pay
jobs and eyes and things. Ithink that was new to have that many
creatures Gremlins one and then Gremlin's two, where I did some puppeteering and a
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lot of voice work that was justsuch a range of what a gremlin could
be. Dinosaurs was the big onefor me, where we took the technology
that the Henson Company had done withthe Ninja Turtle movies and turned into a
you know, five day a weekshooting TV series. So the creature shop
had really kind of perfected the mechanicalface movement and you know, moving all
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that rubber around, and we canbecause of the movies, something breaks down.
You know, they're made like aTiffany piece, like it's a one
off for that movie. With theTV series, you know, no wase
that one for four years, sixtyfive episodes, those things had to be
It was more like a factory,you know, shooting and you couldn't have
a character go oh, it's youknow, his face tour. We're going
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to be start by tomorrow. No, it had to be repaired. And
you have to have a vision,right because as far as sure, as
far as technology and the craft ofcreature effects has come, it all still
comes down to a good idea andyou can't create a creature without a vision.
And one of the worst things thatcan happen to a filmmaker or artist
is dealing with creative blocks. Anda creative block is just that period of
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time in an artist or designer's lifewhere they experience difficulty generating fresh ideas because
there's so many ways to get tothe end result, right, So there's
a lot of blocks that could comebetween the beginning and the end, and
so there are so many ways Ialways say to overcome creative blocks, such
as stepping away from your work,reflecting on path projects, or even trying
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something new. Just getting more sleepcould be the answer. But inspiration could
strike at any moment. I knowthat Dan, you know, has a
next question that pertains specifically to this, but Dan, take it away.
Yeah, No, where do youcurrently find inspiration for your designs? Especially?
Has that changed over the years.I mean, again, nature is
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such a great resource there, andthere's so much stuff online. I mean
when I was a kid, youhad books, you go to the library.
Now you just google anything, andyou know, there's science channels and
channels just all about nature. Imean there's new insects and new lizards and
reptiles and amphibians being discovered. Sothat's probably my initial source. And then
the other time is in the showerwhere you just got that warm water and
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you're just you kind of drift off. And a lot of it is hybridizing,
like oh, what if I hada creature that was amphibious, but
instead of being like fraud with youknow, wet kind of slimy skin,
when it was furry, more likea nutrient or a a you know,
an otter. It's riffing, iswhat you call it in a writer's room.
As a designer, it's the samething you just input. Internet is
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such a great resource for just findingimagery. I couldn't agree more. Now,
you worked on some serious, severalserious films. You seem to have
found your niche though in comedy,specifically the Muppets. So you work with
the Muppets, and you've worked withthem that dates back notably decades, so
with Muppet Treasure Island, even winningyou an Emmy for Muppets Tonight. Now,
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for those of you who don't know, the Muppets themselves date back to
nineteen fifty five, and since thenthere has been a wide variety of films,
TV shows, commercials, and webseries created featuring the characters. So
long story, short, everyone knowsthe Muppets, and you seem to have
found yourself closely aligned with them,in fact, with one of your most
recent project projects being Muppets Haunted Mansion. Right, yeah, that leads into
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my next question. Actually, thankyou. What was it like working on
the Muppet Haunted Mansion, particularly inblending humor with kind of a spooky atmosphere.
I'd want to do a Halloween thingwith the Muppets since nineteen ninety,
since I started writing on dinosaurs andwriting with the Muppets, and so it
came from. Essentially, the Muppetshave been handed to different divisions at Disney
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since they bought them in two thousandand four, and about five or six
years ago, Imagineering took over forpeople at Imagineering, and so when they
took over, I said, hey, you know, Muppets started as monsters
on Sesame Street, and Halloween's thishuge holiday. How can we do something
with Muppet monsters or Muppets and Halloween. And so they came back a couple
of years later and said, I'dbeen working with them on something called Muppets
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Now, which is a website ora Disney Plus series, And they said,
what about the Haunted Mansion. Couldyou do something with that? And
I was like, could I dosomething with them uppinto the Haunt. I
was a huge again growing up inLa Disneyland was the backyard and a huge
fan of the Haunted Mansion. SoI just jumped at the chance. And
it was funny because I was sucha mansion fan. When you know,
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we sat down and went, Okay, what's the story? I said,
well, the story is the ride. There is a story there, and
you know, we kind of cameup with the excuse for why Pepe and
Gonzo would would be there, Butwe just had so much fun with ghosts
and creatures and so many things thatthe Muppets sort of embu are a part
of their lexicon, you know,monsters and funny creatures, and that's kind
of what the Haunted Mansion is.You know, it's not really a scare
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ride. It's more like a funride. So I thought it was a
great marriage of the two and hada blast writing and directing it along with
Coro. It with Bill Burretta andKelly Younger and then Jim Lewis on story
helped the story and then and thendirecting it. So that was kind of
for me, the distillation and thegreat high point after years and years of
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working doing creatures and Muppets and comedykind of all came together in that.
Looking at your extensive portfolio from Gremlinsto Muppets, Muppet, Muppet Hunted,
Mansion, what do you hope yourcreative legacy will be. I don't know
that. Yeah, people enjoy it. It's funny. I don't think of
a legacy when you're when you're doingthe work, at least I know other
people do. I never consider whatlegacy. I'm just sort of fascinated and
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really focused on what am I makingnow and how do I make it better
and how do I make it fun? I guess, you know, standing
back and looking at it, Iguess I would love my legacy to be
you know, he brought some joyand laughs to the world and had fun
doing it. You know. Ithink one of the things I always say
is, at least when we're doingMuppet stuff, for pretty much anything I
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work on, for not having agood time, we're doing it wrong.
Well said, well said. Thankyou so much for coming on. You
are incredible to chat with and yourinsights are priceless. Dan, thank you
so much for bringing on such anincredible guest. Thank you. That was
our Discover your Potential segment, andboy did we discover a lot of potential
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in this segment. That was broughtto you by Bodyligne. That was our
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In our newest monthly segment, TheRankin Difference, brought to you by
David RANKINMD dot com. We're gonnabe featuring the many female voices, bodies
and stories affected by breast implant illness, from your favorite celebrities, influencers and
VIPs to your beloved stay at homemamas. We're gonna bring you stories of
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truth, triumph and survival. Joinedby our expert and recurring contributor, doctor
David Rankin. He is the topbreast ex plant expert in the US and
the chief of plastic Surgery at SaintMary's Medical Center in West Palm Beach,
Florida. Doctor Rankin has been inpractice for over twenty years and he's well
known in the breast implant illness community. It's ever expanding, and it's because
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more and more women are affected bytheir breast implants. Now, doctor Rankin
stopped implanting and solely focuses on explantprocedures. Breast implant illness what they call
BII is a condition that isn't wellunderstood, but that can be extremely debilitating,
and I could personally vouch for that. BII refers to a wide range
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of inexplicable symptoms that can't really bedefined by the medical community. They develop
in women who have reconstruction or cosmeticenlargement with breast implants. BII isn't an
official medical diagnosis because it's just stillnot well understood now. Experts believe BII
symptoms are caused by an autoimmune orinflammatory reaction to the actual implants, and
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the symptoms vary from person to personand can include fatigue, joint pain,
memory and concentration problems, and justso much more. Today we're chatting breast
implant illness, my explant journey withthe Good Doctor, and the warning signs
and symptoms your breasts are secretly revealing. Welcoming now to the show is doctor
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David Radkin. Welcome, superstar.Hi, thank you, Zan, thank
you so much for having me back. Okay, so we're gonna jump right
into this. BII can affect peoplewith any type of breast implant, including
silicone, gel filled, saline filled, smooth surface, textured surfaces, round
or tear drop shaped. It candevelop whether implants have ruptured or even stayed
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intact. Are there any specific typesof breast implants that are associated with a
higher risk of breast implot illness?In my practice, I see more women
with silicone gel implants affected than saline. However, with that being said,
I have a lot of patients withsaline implants that I remove implants and they
do well as well. Texture itseems to be a little more exclammatory than
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these smooth implants. We're still tryingto get a handle on statistics as far
as how many percentages of women areaffected based on the type of implants that
they have. Yeah, that's ahard feat. Most of the medical community
is not associating these symptoms to anythingaggressive. But you you have been at
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the forefront and at the battle helpingwomen reclaim their lives at the forefront of
breast implant all list Now, whatis the most common discovery in extracting the
implants and what is the condition ofthe implant structurally? Well, all implants
currently on the market are made ofthe silicon outer shell. The salines have
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saline fluid inside the silicon. AA silicone Jewl. During my experience in
explanting, I've taken out implants thatare ruptured, the implants that are contracted,
which means the scar tissue around themsqueezes on the implant. Lot of
implants that I take out are fullyintact and look normal, So I see
a little bit of everything in mypractice. Now, there are a number
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of problems associated with mold toxicity.Right, we're going to talk about migraine,
headaches, elevated blood pressure, chronicrecurrent infections, muscle aches and pains,
severe fatigue, chronic coughings, kneezing, wheezing, shortness of breath.
I mean, it's not a prettylist, even asthma symptoms and anxiety and
depression and thyroid hormone depression, Imean, gash too, intestinal bloating.
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I could go on and on.From what I read now, that is
what mold toxicity in capsules. Now, I recently explanted with you, and
prior to my surgery, you requesteda pre op authorization from my PCP.
Now, in gathering my medical appearance, I discovered that my morning blood pressure
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readings were extremely high, and strangelyenough, had been personally been experiencing night
sweats for than months prior to thenine months prior to X flanting and after
eighty nine primary tests and sixty sevensecondary tests and MRIs with and without contrast,
followed by an abdominal ultrasound. Everysingle time I was sent home with
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no explanation. In fact, theysaid, you're fine, you have no
nothing you know to worry about,Get lighter bed sheets for the night,
sweats, and understand that your workis high pressure now at two. During
my research, mold can present ascolorless or white, gray, brown,
black, yellow, green, orfluorescent hue. Right, mold is mold.
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It comes in all different colors,but as mold grows, it often
exudes a musty odor that results fromvolatile organic compound vapors that are released.
Now, when you took out myimplants, what did you discover? Well,
you know, in your case andin most of my patients, the
implants do look normal. In yoursituation, you did have a leak.
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You must have had a leak becauseyour sailing and your implant was about half
as much as I normally see.So at some point either the belve had
some problem and opened up and expressfluid. Sometimes I will see actual slope
in point leak, which I didn'tsee in your case, but somehow some
of the fluid escaped from your implant. Now, it's interesting because most implants
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are guaranteed for a certain number ofyears, and women are told that,
you know, you don't have anythingto worry about. But as these cases
arise, and as you see morewomen come in with complaints, what is
the typical lifespan, whether it's sailineor silicone that you see women coming with
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complaints in for those implants. It'sdifferent for patient. There's no real number.
Some patients have problems either with theimplant or medical issues pretty right away.
Other women they have them plants forfifteen twenty years and then presented with
some problems. I think one ofthe most important things that we do with
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this education is telling women this isa possibility to thtink about when they're having
symptoms of unknown mediology and you knowthis could possibly be the cause. I
think that's really really important to explainto your viewers. Now, I've conducted
with you personally over two dozen interviewson breast to plant illness patients, and
they've all stated that symptoms can appearanytime after implant surgery. Some said they
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started to develop breast implant illness symptomsimmediately, while some developed them many years
later. But interestingly, a lotof the symptoms of BII are associated,
and this was not my case withautoimmune and connective tissue disorders such as lupus
and rheumatord arthritis and scleroderma. Now, what are the current diagnostic criteria for
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BII and how is it actually diagnosedin general? Well, unfortunately, there's
no test, there's no blood work, there's no radiological study or anything like
that that we can do to sayyou have breastam plant illness. It's really
a diagnosis of exclusion. You know, when when somebody's having medical issues,
they should go to their primary physition, they should do their due diligence and
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take the normal test and basically ruleout other causes. When these causes are
ruled out and the patient is stillhaving problems, having an x plan is
it is a leap of faith.It's not something we can endpoint. We
don't know the direct paths of physiologyof the absolute causes. So many of
my patients that X plan are doingit because they've ruled out all other causes.
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Of their problems that are still havingsignificant problems with their health. And
although research is underway to figure out, you know, the exact cause of
breast and plantinalis, it's not currentlyan official diagnosis. Insact BII is a
cluster of symptoms that don't fit into any other classic disease diagnosis, and
eventually I'm hoping it will be recognizedas a medical condition, but that process
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is going to take time now.In the meantime, insurance companies they don't
cover the explant costs. So whatsteps does the medical community need to take
to push insurance carriers to cover theexplant surgeries? Well, insurance companies,
it's very difficult to get a newdiagnosis or get them to cover things.
I think just advocacy from clastic surgeonsand from patients too. Some of my
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patients have submitted their operative reports andsome of the surgical codes on their own
behalf most operatively and some of themmay have gotten reimbursement. So we encourage
them to try and do that incertain situations, but more often than not
they're unsuccessful. I think just continuallypushing out the industry to let them know
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that there's so many women out thereneed this coverage. Thank you for bringing
that voice. Now. After explanting, I did not choose to reimplant,
but rather opted for a natural lift. I've been documenting my healing process all
while using CO two lift pro onmy wounds and all my scars, mainly
to prevent the scarring from being evidentand really to promote healing. What is
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your reaction to my healing process.Granted, ninety five percent of your incisions
are so clean and vanilla and flawless. I've had a pretty seamless sixty first
days. What do you say tothis? Everybody heals a little bit differently,
but basically, incisions on the brassa like incisions anywhere else on the
body. We have our own protocolas far as healing times, dissolvable suture,
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suture glue tapes, scar creams,and things like that. We're always
looking at other devices and treatments,like you mentioned the CO two. That's
something I'm very interested in following yourjourney what's on and possibly using on some
of my patients. So it's aprocess and you just have to be patient,
and we walk all our patients throughand try and get the best possible
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result we have. Well, you'reat the forefront, and you do what
you do for a reason, andyou are amazing at what you do.
And I can't thank you enough,not only for changing in my life and
helping me combat some of the hardersymptoms that nobody was able to even give
me an explanation for, and soI thank you for that, but more
importantly, I thank you for thebreast implant illness community out there who suffering
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women who really want to reclaim theirlives, and you are at the forefront
of that battle. So thank youvery much. Absolutely. The debate regarding
the possibility of breast implants causing systemicsymptoms has actually been present since the nineteen
sixties. It's a theory which stemmedfrom an author's concept of human a juvet
disease. It refers to human exposureto a foreign object that causes autoimmune or
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rheumatic diseases. So the theory wasgradually introduced to the public during the nineteen
eighties, later gaining the attention ofthe Food and Drug Administration, which in
part led to the removal of siliconeimplants from the market in nineteen ninety two,
and interestingly enough, the US Foodand Drug Administration, the major plastic
surgery societies, and other health authoritieshave been devoting more attention to breast implant
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illness than they had in the past. Now. I think that's thanks to
the past October of twenty twenty one, where the FDA began requiring breast implot
manufacturers to include information about the riskof symptoms that affect the whole body in
a boxed warning on breast implant packagingand in a patient decision checklist that is
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included in patient information booklets. Andthe FDA refers to symptoms that affect the
whole body rather than just a singleorgan or bodied part as systemic symptoms.
And the FDA said it is restrictingthe sale and distribution of breast implants only
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surgery. But it's unclear how thisis actually being enforced. So you need
to make sure that the providers andthe surgeons that you are consulting with are
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industry and how you can even geta home medical grade skincare treatment without breaking
the bank. Welcoming now to theshow is our expert of the week,
doctor Brian Biseman. Welcome to theshow, superstar. Great to see you
all right, let's dive right in. So congrats on all of your many
accolades and accomplishments. The universe hasa very well thought out way of connecting
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people for a full circle. Sonice to finally meet you in person,
like twenty years in the making,right exactly. So let's jump right into
your incredible field. So can youtell us about the latest trends in facial
and eyelid surgeries that you've observed inthe field of cosmetic and reconstructive surgery over
the years. If my focus reallyis on aesthetics, I'm going to talk
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mostly about aesthetic rather than reconstructive,although every reconstructive procedure really is aesthetic.
Let's focus on the aesthetics. Sothere has been a real shift over the
last years, which is continuing andI think growing in really preserving ones.
If you will natural look for many, many years, decades, even it
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was very clear when someone had hadsurgery that was supposed to help make you
look better or more youthful, whenin reality it made you look different.
So now the emphasis is on howdo we preserve and how do we restore
rather than making people just look likethey had surgery. I love that keeping
true to the roots of the humanethos and who that person is from the
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beginning, not trying to transform theirface like many many plastic surgeons do.
Now many people are interested, asam I, in non invasive rejuvenation techniques.
Now, what are some popular technologybased solutions that you find effective in
achieving these desired results that everybody islooking for? Great questions? Are we
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going to focus on just eyelids?Let's talk about the face and neck because
that's where people often see changes.So there's a few things that we need
to think about. Zen. Weneed to think about skin quality in terms
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If we're going to smooth wrinkles,that's going to have anywhere from a
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I want this, they need surgery. If someone says I just want to
look like a little bit better versionof myself, where I like the way
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I look, but I want tolook the same in ten years, then
we talk to them about devices thatwill help enhance things a bit and preserve
them moving forward. And it's extremelyimportant to enhance and preserve rather than to
remodel and reconstruct, because then youget into a whole other you know,
Pandora's box. Now, coming backto a trend that was one of the
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biggest Google trends of twenty twenty threecoming into twenty twenty four, its carboxy
therapy. It has many proprietary usesand with this non invasive procedure involving the
therapeutic use of carbon dioxide foreskin regeneration, we are really seeing some incredible results.
And when infused into the skin,CO two immediately diffuses at the cutaneous
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and muscular you know, microcirculatory level, So there's a science behind it,
and of course this results in highertissue oxygenation and neoangiogenesis. And of course
when you look at the science,and most millennials look at the science.
I see this particular CO two liftproduct the blood. I've used it on
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myself and the blood vessels widened.This increases the transport of oxygen body tissues
for cellular regeneration and anti inflammatory effects. And in fact, it's been a
treatment that has been around since thenineteen thirties, but now there's a new
method of delivery that's improved since thenwith this gel delivery system called CO two
lift. We had doctor Hoyos compareit to a hyperbaric after open flap surgery,
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and he is the author of liposculpturesso carbboxing therapy. Doctor Biseman seems
to be making these waves in theskin care industry. How does it work
in a medical explanation and what benefitsdoes it offer for individuals looking to enhance
their skin. So Zen, you'requite the scientist. I'm impressed. The
basic idea is that most of usknow that if our oxygen levels are lower
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CO two levels are high, thatour bodies are going to ask for more
oxygen. We're going to send moreoxygen to that area. So the whole
idea behind this CO two lift conceptis to not actually deprive our tissues of
oxygen is to keep our tissue oxygennormal, but to fool our bodies into
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thinking that, hey, wait aminute, there's too much CO two here.
We got to send more. Soyou actually are supercharging the area with
oxygen. You get increased blood flowas you suggested, and this actually is
incredibly hydrating and really has a lotmore benefits than we might have thought a
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top product could have. And thisis an important distinction. In the past,
carboxy therapy is something which has beenactually infused into the skin through a
needle or through some other more invasivemeans. We're talking now about something which
is applied topically to the skin.It's a gel like a mask. You
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apply it, you leave it inplace for about forty five to sixty minutes,
and when you take it away,it's like a big reveal. It's
really remarkable. This is how Iactually first discovered I didn't discover it when
I first saw it. It tookabout ten seconds to realize that this was
something truly remarkable in what it doeswith totally non invasive, no risk,
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no recovery time. And I don'teven have an interest in the product.
It's just crazy, how remarkably wellit works. It's true, and you
are a scientist before anything else,clearly we can see that. But as
the first account to offer COEO tolit Pro in the Nashville market, what
was it? What was it thatdrew you to the product as an early
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adopter? So I'll tell you thestory. There's a story here. So
the first time that ever met thisproduct, I'd never heard of it.
We were doing we do an annualmedical conference in Nashville, and the co
chair last year we had about fourteenhundred people. We're going into our nineteenth
year this year. So this wasin maybe twenty sixteen. I think We're
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in the process of doing some lobdemonstrations and they said, hey, someone
wants to demonstrate this new thing.Do you care sure? And they bring
it this patient in and I'll bekind and say she did not look great.
She was wrinkled, and she waslooked really rough, and they said,
we're just going to put this thingon her face. We're going to
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leave her. And this woman literallylay down on the floor for forty five
minutes. Well, I did someinjections, and then in the remaining couple
of minutes they said here. We'rejust going to pull this mask off and
wants you to take a look.They took the CO two Lift mask off,
and this woman looked unbelievable. Thereis no way that that is the
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same person where you put that maskon forty five minutes ago. And that's
all it took for me to beconvinced. At that point. I then
became the first account to sell itin Nashville. It wasn't carried here yet.
The meeting is in Nashville, andthey traveled in to show it the
that this meeting is lift, butI'd never seen it before. Well,
you were onto something because CO twoLyft since then has proven to be such
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a valuable addition to most laser protocols, especially for patients with acnake skin and
targeted skincare solutions like carboxy therapy weknow now can enhance overall results in the
product has such a proprietary and uniqueability to promote skin rejuvenation. Now,
moving on to the intriguing aspect ofgetting skincare treatments at home, can you
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elaborate on how carboxy therapy can beapplied at home and what results people should
expect As I mentioned it's a gel. You have to mix it up,
you apply it. When you applyit. Here's probably the hardest thing about
it. It's painless, doesn't haveany discompany. It's easy, easy,
easy. But here's the hard part. You really have to stay still for
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a good forty five to sixty minutesif you're going to get the benefit from
a treatment, and if you wantthe benefit on your eyelids, that means
you really can't be on your phone. You just got to go to your
happy place, close your eyes,relax and let the product work. Well,
you said it, you should bethe poster child for COO to look
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pro because to your point, it'sthe strongest version of carboxy gel and aside
from it being available to aesthetic andmedical providers like yourself, to your point,
it's an at home treatment that deliversthe CO two cutaneously over forty five
minutes to an hour, and sittingstill is on point. I've done this
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myself. You can't keep moving becauseit's not going to actually penetrate and deliver
what it needs to be delivering ifyou are, you know, sweating and
working working it up. But thisit's a transdermal, non invasive facial mask
essentially, and practitioners like yourself,doctors, surgeons, experts like yourself.
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They recommend it for post procedure careafter invasive procedures such as needling or laser
or whatnot. But I had breastxplant surgery not long ago, about a
month ago, and I had itdone in Jupiter Floor with doctor David Rankin,
and I started using CO two liftpro on my wounds, on my
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open wounds, and boy have Iseen a huge, huge difference. There's
no itchiness, there's no dryness,clean incisions. It's coming along nicely.
So yes, to your point,this is this is a great product.
Now let's moving up, move onto considering your role as a key opinion
leader in medical and surgical aesthetics,which you which you do so gracefully,
as well as a clinical assistant professorat Vanderbilt University and Medical Center. How
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do you incorporate research and teaching tostay at the forefront of such a rapidly
evolving field. This field changes somuch, as you just said, Zen,
probably since we've started this interview,something new has come up, or
some new idea has come across myemail or whatever, and so you have
to be used to sorting through alot of information and like see you two
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lift, sometimes you're really shocked bysomething and something will grab your attention and
you'll know immediately this is something reallyinteresting if it weren't for the research or
I'm always doing projects and I'm doinga lot of consulting, and I'm hearing
companies get you. They wanted youto invest, they want you to hear
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their story. So forth, yousee so much and hear so much that
you really do get a good sensefor what's legit and what's not. I've
been practicing over thirty years now,and I've seen a handful of things that
are really game changers, a lotof things that are interesting and you know
they've got a place, but theydon't really change the way we practice.
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And then a lot of things thatare just overblown, being kind really not
something that has their place, eventhough there may be a business around it
for a minute, it doesn't looklike a long term thing. And that
just takes experience and some of themlearning the hard way to get a sense
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for, hey, what should wepursue and what do we want to take
a pass on. Now, whenwe talk about advice for individuals considering cosmetic
procedures for the first time. It'sthe first time they don't know what they're
getting themselves involved in. Are thereany key considerations or even misconceptions that you'd
want to address. That's a greatquestion, in such an important one,
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no matter what age you are,if you're just thinking about doing this,
first do your homework. The traditionalway that physicians get recognized for their expertise
is by the contributions they make tothe field, by doing research by pure
recognition. We've seen a lot wheresocial media has become a way to credential
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people, and they're engaging on socialmedia and they seem to be really nice
and they can tell a good story, but that doesn't actually replace solid credentials.
So do your homework first of allin terms of who you're going to
see, And it's important before youlet anyone do anything that you actually feel
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that that person is on the samepage you are, that you trust them,
and then let them be your guide. I don't try to tell my
attorney how to write a contract ormy accountant how to do my taxes.
You need to find some and whoyou feel you can relate to, who
listens to you, who understands you, who you trust, because there can
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be a lot of different ways todo things. What you need is someone
who will hear your concerns, listento what you'd like to accomplish, explain
to you how they think you canget there, and then see if what
they deliver is what they led youto expect. That seems to be really
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the best way and the last thing. You have to be able to commit
yourself to being treated by one personover a period of time. If you're
going from place A to B toC to D, you'll get a mishmash
of everyone's ideas and usually it doesnot work well at the end of the
day. It really truly comes downto choosing the right practitioner, making sure
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that you're in the in the handsof somebody that's not just capable, that
that is an expert at the forefrontof research in their fields, such as
yourself. Bringing me full circle too, we are out of time. Thank
you so much for coming on andchatting and being so open and transparent,
and I love having a conversation withyou. It was awesome, Zed,
I really enjoyed it. It's it'sgreat to speak with you and I appreciate
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you having me on. Thank you. It was our Going Deep segment brought
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be released this fall. They're heretoday to chat about storytelling, creature design,
and establishing a creative legacy. We'regoing to be chatting careers, Hollywood
and plans for twenty twenty four.Welcoming down to the show are Dan Gilman
and Kurk Thatcher. Welcome to theshow, gentlemen. Thank you very much.
Kirk, You've had quite the careerspanning all the way back to when
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you were just ten years old makingfilms all involving creatures, spaceships or broad
comedy. Self taught, of course, in the craft of creature effects,
and at nineteen you went on towork at Industrial Light and Magic, working
with a creature, working with basicallycreating creatures for many well known and iconic
films. Cut to today, you'redoing it all. You're an expert creature
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maker, writer, producer, director, actor. I know that is eager
to ask you questions, so Dantake it away. Well, thank you
so much for being here, yourlegend and my personal hero, and it's
a dream dream come true to talkto you. But Kirk, looking back
at your childhood, were there specificmoments or influences that sparked your passion for
(06:16):
creature design and filmmaking. Yeah,I would say the movie King Kong,
Ray Harry Hausenfels, particularly Jason andthe Argonauts, which all I saw on
television. I was a sixties kid, so watching TV was the babysitter,
so I got to see all thesegreat older sci fi fantasy films. I
think those two again, King Kongand Jason the Argonauts that Ray Harry Alsen
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did really kind of sparked my lovefor filmmaking and creatures, and I just
drew all the time. I wasreally creative. I started out kind of
a very nerdy kid. I reada lot of science encyclopedias. My folks
got a set up encyclopedias, andI just read it. Was fascinated by
the world. You know, you'rea kid and you're just learning about everything.
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And my mom was concerned that Iwould turn into a complete science nerd,
so she thought she could introduce mebecause I didn't read fiction. I
just read, you know, allfactual stuff, nonfiction. So she turned
me onto science fiction and then Iwas hooked into that. And then Star
Trek started airing when I was likefour. I didn't really get into it
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till a little later, as Iwas about eight or nine, But so
all those things just were around,and growing up in La you knew that
working in the film television business wasan actual possibility. It was a career
that was available to people. Andmy next door neighbors and my best friends.
Their dad was a composer and hehad his own post production studio,
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so I kind of grew up aroundit. No one in my family was
in it. But I knew itwas available, so that made it interesting
and exciting. It's interesting because creatureeffects, if you think of it,
are one of the most popular formsof practical effects right because they're made from
a variety of materials. And whenyou think of creature effects, they've been
around since the birth of cinemaon inclassic films like Frankenstein and Dracula, and
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we all know the movies wouldn't becomplete without these creatures, whether it's Godzilla
or Grover. Yes, nice nicebreadth there, Godzilla to growro like that.
Well, in your opinion, notto shift gears, But how does
effective creature design and contribute to theart of storytelling and film and television.
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How does the art of effective creaturedesign? Well, it all comes down
I mean I wordd early on.It comes down to human psychology. You
know, Frankenstein is a different kindof creature than Godzilla, but they both
sort of have pathos. You know, they're both misunderstood. And then you
get to the Muppets, who arekind of a band of outcasts. And
I think it comes down to whathumans relate or don't relate to. And
(08:54):
I think the alien the Xenomore fromthe movie Aliens had no face, you
know, just teeth and a tap, and that plays on our fears of
like something without a face is terrifyingto us because you don't know where it's
looking. It makes you feel morelike a prey than a predator. And
in the movie Predator, you knowthis kind of scorpion face thing. I
think it's effective if you start withhuman nature and human psychology and what triggers
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are feelings of terror or passion orlaughter, evoken emotion. It's all about
emotion. And interestingly enough, whilefilmmaking technology has significantly advanced and continues to
improve, bringing creatures to life onscreen is still no easy feet because a
poorly designed creature can be distracting andtake the audience out of the immersive world
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the filmmakers have works so hard tocreate, and simply put, a creature's
design and execution can make or breaka film. I always say that absolutely.
I think what happened with computer graphics, which are amazing and a great
tool in the toolbox, is theyfound you could kind of do anything,
and so things creatures got a littlemore detailed, in extravagant and sort of
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lost their focus. I think Oneof the things that's so successful about the
Muppets is that they're very distilled,Like you know, they're very simple shapes
and colors and not only kids,but they read quickly, I think is
what you would say. And oneof the things I found as a creature
designer is you want that impression.You know, is it scary, is
it horrifying? You need to haveit read quickly. And again that comes
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down to eye shape and eye placement, and eye size and where the mouth
is, how the mouth moves.All that stuff comes into play. And
that's kind of the fun of itis you get to be your own doctor
Frankenstein and or you know, yourown kind of biologist and create something that
looks real, has a versas melitudethat you believe that, oh, I
believe that came out of the water. I believe that came from space.
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Can you also discuss a project whereyou felt you were breaking new ground or
in special effects or creature design?Sure, I mean I think the Well
Boy Well Gremlins where I was youknow, I didn't I was design pay
jobs and eyes and things. Ithink that was new to have that many
creatures Gremlins one and then Gremlin's two, where I did some puppeteering and a
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lot of voice work that was justsuch a range of what a gremlin could
be. Dinosaurs was the big onefor me, where we took the technology
that the Henson Company had done withthe Ninja Turtle movies and turned into a
you know, five day a weekshooting TV series. So the creature shop
had really kind of perfected the mechanicalface movement and you know, moving all
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that rubber around, and we canbecause of the movies, something breaks down.
You know, they're made like aTiffany piece, like it's a one
off for that movie. With theTV series, you know, no wase
that one for four years, sixtyfive episodes, those things had to be
It was more like a factory,you know, shooting and you couldn't have
a character go oh, it's youknow, his face tour. We're going
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to be start by tomorrow. No, it had to be repaired. And
you have to have a vision,right because as far as sure, as
far as technology and the craft ofcreature effects has come, it all still
comes down to a good idea andyou can't create a creature without a vision.
And one of the worst things thatcan happen to a filmmaker or artist
is dealing with creative blocks. Anda creative block is just that period of
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time in an artist or designer's lifewhere they experience difficulty generating fresh ideas because
there's so many ways to get tothe end result, right, So there's
a lot of blocks that could comebetween the beginning and the end, and
so there are so many ways Ialways say to overcome creative blocks, such
as stepping away from your work,reflecting on path projects, or even trying
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something new. Just getting more sleepcould be the answer. But inspiration could
strike at any moment. I knowthat Dan, you know, has a
next question that pertains specifically to this, but Dan, take it away.
Yeah, No, where do youcurrently find inspiration for your designs? Especially?
Has that changed over the years.I mean, again, nature is
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such a great resource there, andthere's so much stuff online. I mean
when I was a kid, youhad books, you go to the library.
Now you just google anything, andyou know, there's science channels and
channels just all about nature. Imean there's new insects and new lizards and
reptiles and amphibians being discovered. Sothat's probably my initial source. And then
the other time is in the showerwhere you just got that warm water and
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you're just you kind of drift off. And a lot of it is hybridizing,
like oh, what if I hada creature that was amphibious, but
instead of being like fraud with youknow, wet kind of slimy skin,
when it was furry, more likea nutrient or a a you know,
an otter. It's riffing, iswhat you call it in a writer's room.
As a designer, it's the samething you just input. Internet is
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such a great resource for just findingimagery. I couldn't agree more. Now,
you worked on some serious, severalserious films. You seem to have
found your niche though in comedy,specifically the Muppets. So you work with
the Muppets, and you've worked withthem that dates back notably decades, so
with Muppet Treasure Island, even winningyou an Emmy for Muppets Tonight. Now,
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for those of you who don't know, the Muppets themselves date back to
nineteen fifty five, and since thenthere has been a wide variety of films,
TV shows, commercials, and webseries created featuring the characters. So
long story, short, everyone knowsthe Muppets, and you seem to have
found yourself closely aligned with them,in fact, with one of your most
recent project projects being Muppets Haunted Mansion. Right, yeah, that leads into
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my next question. Actually, thankyou. What was it like working on
the Muppet Haunted Mansion, particularly inblending humor with kind of a spooky atmosphere.
I'd want to do a Halloween thingwith the Muppets since nineteen ninety,
since I started writing on dinosaurs andwriting with the Muppets, and so it
came from. Essentially, the Muppetshave been handed to different divisions at Disney
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since they bought them in two thousandand four, and about five or six
years ago, Imagineering took over forpeople at Imagineering, and so when they
took over, I said, hey, you know, Muppets started as monsters
on Sesame Street, and Halloween's thishuge holiday. How can we do something
with Muppet monsters or Muppets and Halloween. And so they came back a couple
of years later and said, I'dbeen working with them on something called Muppets
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Now, which is a website ora Disney Plus series, And they said,
what about the Haunted Mansion. Couldyou do something with that? And
I was like, could I dosomething with them uppinto the Haunt. I
was a huge again growing up inLa Disneyland was the backyard and a huge
fan of the Haunted Mansion. SoI just jumped at the chance. And
it was funny because I was sucha mansion fan. When you know,
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we sat down and went, Okay, what's the story? I said,
well, the story is the ride. There is a story there, and
you know, we kind of cameup with the excuse for why Pepe and
Gonzo would would be there, Butwe just had so much fun with ghosts
and creatures and so many things thatthe Muppets sort of embu are a part
of their lexicon, you know,monsters and funny creatures, and that's kind
of what the Haunted Mansion is.You know, it's not really a scare
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ride. It's more like a funride. So I thought it was a
great marriage of the two and hada blast writing and directing it along with
Coro. It with Bill Burretta andKelly Younger and then Jim Lewis on story
helped the story and then and thendirecting it. So that was kind of
for me, the distillation and thegreat high point after years and years of
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working doing creatures and Muppets and comedykind of all came together in that.
Looking at your extensive portfolio from Gremlinsto Muppets, Muppet, Muppet Hunted,
Mansion, what do you hope yourcreative legacy will be. I don't know
that. Yeah, people enjoy it. It's funny. I don't think of
a legacy when you're when you're doingthe work, at least I know other
people do. I never consider whatlegacy. I'm just sort of fascinated and
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really focused on what am I makingnow and how do I make it better
and how do I make it fun? I guess, you know, standing
back and looking at it, Iguess I would love my legacy to be
you know, he brought some joyand laughs to the world and had fun
doing it. You know. Ithink one of the things I always say
is, at least when we're doingMuppet stuff, for pretty much anything I
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work on, for not having agood time, we're doing it wrong.
Well said, well said. Thankyou so much for coming on. You
are incredible to chat with and yourinsights are priceless. Dan, thank you
so much for bringing on such anincredible guest. Thank you. That was
our Discover your Potential segment, andboy did we discover a lot of potential
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In our newest monthly segment, TheRankin Difference, brought to you by
David RANKINMD dot com. We're gonnabe featuring the many female voices, bodies
and stories affected by breast implant illness, from your favorite celebrities, influencers and
VIPs to your beloved stay at homemamas. We're gonna bring you stories of
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truth, triumph and survival. Joinedby our expert and recurring contributor, doctor
David Rankin. He is the topbreast ex plant expert in the US and
the chief of plastic Surgery at SaintMary's Medical Center in West Palm Beach,
Florida. Doctor Rankin has been inpractice for over twenty years and he's well
known in the breast implant illness community. It's ever expanding, and it's because
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more and more women are affected bytheir breast implants. Now, doctor Rankin
stopped implanting and solely focuses on explantprocedures. Breast implant illness what they call
BII is a condition that isn't wellunderstood, but that can be extremely debilitating,
and I could personally vouch for that. BII refers to a wide range
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of inexplicable symptoms that can't really bedefined by the medical community. They develop
in women who have reconstruction or cosmeticenlargement with breast implants. BII isn't an
official medical diagnosis because it's just stillnot well understood now. Experts believe BII
symptoms are caused by an autoimmune orinflammatory reaction to the actual implants, and
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the symptoms vary from person to personand can include fatigue, joint pain,
memory and concentration problems, and justso much more. Today we're chatting breast
implant illness, my explant journey withthe Good Doctor, and the warning signs
and symptoms your breasts are secretly revealing. Welcoming now to the show is doctor
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David Radkin. Welcome, superstar.Hi, thank you, Zan, thank
you so much for having me back. Okay, so we're gonna jump right
into this. BII can affect peoplewith any type of breast implant, including
silicone, gel filled, saline filled, smooth surface, textured surfaces, round
or tear drop shaped. It candevelop whether implants have ruptured or even stayed
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intact. Are there any specific typesof breast implants that are associated with a
higher risk of breast implot illness?In my practice, I see more women
with silicone gel implants affected than saline. However, with that being said,
I have a lot of patients withsaline implants that I remove implants and they
do well as well. Texture itseems to be a little more exclammatory than
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these smooth implants. We're still tryingto get a handle on statistics as far
as how many percentages of women areaffected based on the type of implants that
they have. Yeah, that's ahard feat. Most of the medical community
is not associating these symptoms to anythingaggressive. But you you have been at
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the forefront and at the battle helpingwomen reclaim their lives at the forefront of
breast implant all list Now, whatis the most common discovery in extracting the
implants and what is the condition ofthe implant structurally? Well, all implants
currently on the market are made ofthe silicon outer shell. The salines have
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saline fluid inside the silicon. AA silicone Jewl. During my experience in
explanting, I've taken out implants thatare ruptured, the implants that are contracted,
which means the scar tissue around themsqueezes on the implant. Lot of
implants that I take out are fullyintact and look normal, So I see
a little bit of everything in mypractice. Now, there are a number
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of problems associated with mold toxicity.Right, we're going to talk about migraine,
headaches, elevated blood pressure, chronicrecurrent infections, muscle aches and pains,
severe fatigue, chronic coughings, kneezing, wheezing, shortness of breath.
I mean, it's not a prettylist, even asthma symptoms and anxiety and
depression and thyroid hormone depression, Imean, gash too, intestinal bloating.
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I could go on and on.From what I read now, that is
what mold toxicity in capsules. Now, I recently explanted with you, and
prior to my surgery, you requesteda pre op authorization from my PCP.
Now, in gathering my medical appearance, I discovered that my morning blood pressure
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readings were extremely high, and strangelyenough, had been personally been experiencing night
sweats for than months prior to thenine months prior to X flanting and after
eighty nine primary tests and sixty sevensecondary tests and MRIs with and without contrast,
followed by an abdominal ultrasound. Everysingle time I was sent home with
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no explanation. In fact, theysaid, you're fine, you have no
nothing you know to worry about,Get lighter bed sheets for the night,
sweats, and understand that your workis high pressure now at two. During
my research, mold can present ascolorless or white, gray, brown,
black, yellow, green, orfluorescent hue. Right, mold is mold.
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It comes in all different colors,but as mold grows, it often
exudes a musty odor that results fromvolatile organic compound vapors that are released.
Now, when you took out myimplants, what did you discover? Well,
you know, in your case andin most of my patients, the
implants do look normal. In yoursituation, you did have a leak.
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You must have had a leak becauseyour sailing and your implant was about half
as much as I normally see.So at some point either the belve had
some problem and opened up and expressfluid. Sometimes I will see actual slope
in point leak, which I didn'tsee in your case, but somehow some
of the fluid escaped from your implant. Now, it's interesting because most implants
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are guaranteed for a certain number ofyears, and women are told that,
you know, you don't have anythingto worry about. But as these cases
arise, and as you see morewomen come in with complaints, what is
the typical lifespan, whether it's sailineor silicone that you see women coming with
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complaints in for those implants. It'sdifferent for patient. There's no real number.
Some patients have problems either with theimplant or medical issues pretty right away.
Other women they have them plants forfifteen twenty years and then presented with
some problems. I think one ofthe most important things that we do with
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this education is telling women this isa possibility to thtink about when they're having
symptoms of unknown mediology and you knowthis could possibly be the cause. I
think that's really really important to explainto your viewers. Now, I've conducted
with you personally over two dozen interviewson breast to plant illness patients, and
they've all stated that symptoms can appearanytime after implant surgery. Some said they
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started to develop breast implant illness symptomsimmediately, while some developed them many years
later. But interestingly, a lotof the symptoms of BII are associated,
and this was not my case withautoimmune and connective tissue disorders such as lupus
and rheumatord arthritis and scleroderma. Now, what are the current diagnostic criteria for
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BII and how is it actually diagnosedin general? Well, unfortunately, there's
no test, there's no blood work, there's no radiological study or anything like
that that we can do to sayyou have breastam plant illness. It's really
a diagnosis of exclusion. You know, when when somebody's having medical issues,
they should go to their primary physition, they should do their due diligence and
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take the normal test and basically ruleout other causes. When these causes are
ruled out and the patient is stillhaving problems, having an x plan is
it is a leap of faith.It's not something we can endpoint. We
don't know the direct paths of physiologyof the absolute causes. So many of
my patients that X plan are doingit because they've ruled out all other causes.
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Of their problems that are still havingsignificant problems with their health. And
although research is underway to figure out, you know, the exact cause of
breast and plantinalis, it's not currentlyan official diagnosis. Insact BII is a
cluster of symptoms that don't fit into any other classic disease diagnosis, and
eventually I'm hoping it will be recognizedas a medical condition, but that process
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is going to take time now.In the meantime, insurance companies they don't
cover the explant costs. So whatsteps does the medical community need to take
to push insurance carriers to cover theexplant surgeries? Well, insurance companies,
it's very difficult to get a newdiagnosis or get them to cover things.
I think just advocacy from clastic surgeonsand from patients too. Some of my
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patients have submitted their operative reports andsome of the surgical codes on their own
behalf most operatively and some of themmay have gotten reimbursement. So we encourage
them to try and do that incertain situations, but more often than not
they're unsuccessful. I think just continuallypushing out the industry to let them know
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that there's so many women out thereneed this coverage. Thank you for bringing
that voice. Now. After explanting, I did not choose to reimplant,
but rather opted for a natural lift. I've been documenting my healing process all
while using CO two lift pro onmy wounds and all my scars, mainly
to prevent the scarring from being evidentand really to promote healing. What is
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your reaction to my healing process.Granted, ninety five percent of your incisions
are so clean and vanilla and flawless. I've had a pretty seamless sixty first
days. What do you say tothis? Everybody heals a little bit differently,
but basically, incisions on the brassa like incisions anywhere else on the
body. We have our own protocolas far as healing times, dissolvable suture,
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suture glue tapes, scar creams,and things like that. We're always
looking at other devices and treatments,like you mentioned the CO two. That's
something I'm very interested in following yourjourney what's on and possibly using on some
of my patients. So it's aprocess and you just have to be patient,
and we walk all our patients throughand try and get the best possible
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result we have. Well, you'reat the forefront, and you do what
you do for a reason, andyou are amazing at what you do.
And I can't thank you enough,not only for changing in my life and
helping me combat some of the hardersymptoms that nobody was able to even give
me an explanation for, and soI thank you for that, but more
importantly, I thank you for thebreast implant illness community out there who suffering
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women who really want to reclaim theirlives, and you are at the forefront
of that battle. So thank youvery much. Absolutely. The debate regarding
the possibility of breast implants causing systemicsymptoms has actually been present since the nineteen
sixties. It's a theory which stemmedfrom an author's concept of human a juvet
disease. It refers to human exposureto a foreign object that causes autoimmune or
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rheumatic diseases. So the theory wasgradually introduced to the public during the nineteen
eighties, later gaining the attention ofthe Food and Drug Administration, which in
part led to the removal of siliconeimplants from the market in nineteen ninety two,
and interestingly enough, the US Foodand Drug Administration, the major plastic
surgery societies, and other health authoritieshave been devoting more attention to breast implant
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illness than they had in the past. Now. I think that's thanks to
the past October of twenty twenty one, where the FDA began requiring breast implot
manufacturers to include information about the riskof symptoms that affect the whole body in
a boxed warning on breast implant packagingand in a patient decision checklist that is
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included in patient information booklets. Andthe FDA refers to symptoms that affect the
whole body rather than just a singleorgan or bodied part as systemic symptoms.
And the FDA said it is restrictingthe sale and distribution of breast implants only
to health providers that review the checklistas part of the informed consent process before
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surgery. But it's unclear how thisis actually being enforced. So you need
to make sure that the providers andthe surgeons that you are consulting with are
actually giving you the full transparent disclosure. That was the rankin difference brought to
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all right, let's dive right in. So congrats on all of your many
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Let's focus on the aesthetics. Sothere has been a real shift over the
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Now many people are interested, asam I, in non invasive rejuvenation techniques.
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year this year. So this wasin maybe twenty sixteen. I think We're
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in the process of doing some lobdemonstrations and they said, hey, someone
wants to demonstrate this new thing.Do you care sure? And they bring
it this patient in and I'll bekind and say she did not look great.
She was wrinkled, and she waslooked really rough, and they said,
we're just going to put this thingon her face. We're going to
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leave her. And this woman literallylay down on the floor for forty five
minutes. Well, I did someinjections, and then in the remaining couple
of minutes they said here. We'rejust going to pull this mask off and
wants you to take a look.They took the CO two Lift mask off,
and this woman looked unbelievable. Thereis no way that that is the
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same person where you put that maskon forty five minutes ago. And that's
all it took for me to beconvinced. At that point. I then
became the first account to sell itin Nashville. It wasn't carried here yet.
The meeting is in Nashville, andthey traveled in to show it the
that this meeting is lift, butI'd never seen it before. Well,
you were onto something because CO twoLyft since then has proven to be such
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a valuable addition to most laser protocols, especially for patients with acnake skin and
targeted skincare solutions like carboxy therapy weknow now can enhance overall results in the
product has such a proprietary and uniqueability to promote skin rejuvenation. Now,
moving on to the intriguing aspect ofgetting skincare treatments at home, can you
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elaborate on how carboxy therapy can beapplied at home and what results people should
expect As I mentioned it's a gel. You have to mix it up,
you apply it. When you applyit. Here's probably the hardest thing about
it. It's painless, doesn't haveany discompany. It's easy, easy,
easy. But here's the hard part. You really have to stay still for
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a good forty five to sixty minutesif you're going to get the benefit from
a treatment, and if you wantthe benefit on your eyelids, that means
you really can't be on your phone. You just got to go to your
happy place, close your eyes,relax and let the product work. Well,
you said it, you should bethe poster child for COO to look
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pro because to your point, it'sthe strongest version of carboxy gel and aside
from it being available to aesthetic andmedical providers like yourself, to your point,
it's an at home treatment that deliversthe CO two cutaneously over forty five
minutes to an hour, and sittingstill is on point. I've done this
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myself. You can't keep moving becauseit's not going to actually penetrate and deliver
what it needs to be delivering ifyou are, you know, sweating and
working working it up. But thisit's a transdermal, non invasive facial mask
essentially, and practitioners like yourself,doctors, surgeons, experts like yourself.
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They recommend it for post procedure careafter invasive procedures such as needling or laser
or whatnot. But I had breastxplant surgery not long ago, about a
month ago, and I had itdone in Jupiter Floor with doctor David Rankin,
and I started using CO two liftpro on my wounds, on my
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open wounds, and boy have Iseen a huge, huge difference. There's
no itchiness, there's no dryness,clean incisions. It's coming along nicely.
So yes, to your point,this is this is a great product.
Now let's moving up, move onto considering your role as a key opinion
leader in medical and surgical aesthetics,which you which you do so gracefully,
as well as a clinical assistant professorat Vanderbilt University and Medical Center. How
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do you incorporate research and teaching tostay at the forefront of such a rapidly
evolving field. This field changes somuch, as you just said, Zen,
probably since we've started this interview,something new has come up, or
some new idea has come across myemail or whatever, and so you have
to be used to sorting through alot of information and like see you two
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lift, sometimes you're really shocked bysomething and something will grab your attention and
you'll know immediately this is something reallyinteresting if it weren't for the research or
I'm always doing projects and I'm doinga lot of consulting, and I'm hearing
companies get you. They wanted youto invest, they want you to hear
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their story. So forth, yousee so much and hear so much that
you really do get a good sensefor what's legit and what's not. I've
been practicing over thirty years now,and I've seen a handful of things that
are really game changers, a lotof things that are interesting and you know
they've got a place, but theydon't really change the way we practice.
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And then a lot of things thatare just overblown, being kind really not
something that has their place, eventhough there may be a business around it
for a minute, it doesn't looklike a long term thing. And that
just takes experience and some of themlearning the hard way to get a sense
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for, hey, what should wepursue and what do we want to take
a pass on. Now, whenwe talk about advice for individuals considering cosmetic
procedures for the first time. It'sthe first time they don't know what they're
getting themselves involved in. Are thereany key considerations or even misconceptions that you'd
want to address. That's a greatquestion, in such an important one,
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no matter what age you are,if you're just thinking about doing this,
first do your homework. The traditionalway that physicians get recognized for their expertise
is by the contributions they make tothe field, by doing research by pure
recognition. We've seen a lot wheresocial media has become a way to credential
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people, and they're engaging on socialmedia and they seem to be really nice
and they can tell a good story, but that doesn't actually replace solid credentials.
So do your homework first of allin terms of who you're going to
see, And it's important before youlet anyone do anything that you actually feel
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that that person is on the samepage you are, that you trust them,
and then let them be your guide. I don't try to tell my
attorney how to write a contract ormy accountant how to do my taxes.
You need to find some and whoyou feel you can relate to, who
listens to you, who understands you, who you trust, because there can
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be a lot of different ways todo things. What you need is someone
who will hear your concerns, listento what you'd like to accomplish, explain
to you how they think you canget there, and then see if what
they deliver is what they led youto expect. That seems to be really
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the best way and the last thing. You have to be able to commit
yourself to being treated by one personover a period of time. If you're
going from place A to B toC to D, you'll get a mishmash
of everyone's ideas and usually it doesnot work well at the end of the
day. It really truly comes downto choosing the right practitioner, making sure
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that you're in the in the handsof somebody that's not just capable, that
that is an expert at the forefrontof research in their fields, such as
yourself. Bringing me full circle too, we are out of time. Thank
you so much for coming on andchatting and being so open and transparent,
and I love having a conversation withyou. It was awesome, Zed,
I really enjoyed it. It's it'sgreat to speak with you and I appreciate
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you having me on. Thank you. It was our Going Deep segment brought
to you by Co two Lift,and that was doctor Brian Biseman, founder
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