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This is the mood Kimmy and otisin the Morning Daily podcast, it's the
moo Kimmy. Notice after show apodcast, we got Ron Dall Smith from
Georgia followers in the building. He'sgot a new girl, Kimmy's got a
new puppy. Everybody's got the wayyou don't let me tell you. I
tried to gloss over it. Youmean we got new women in our lives.
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Now you know both of you hadnew women in your life because Kimmy's
got a new puppy. That's right, bear, Bear, she's a girl.
Yes, So are you gonna dateagain? Are you gonna put yourself
back out there? Because I remembernot for a while. Well, the
thing about it is, remember thelast time talking to you, this is
before you got with him, youwere saying that like, oh no,
I'm not gonna I don't want tobe with men. Men are terrible.
He met this guy, yeah,and then I thought, oh wow,
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I found one that's not terrible.And then I was very wrong. Dang,
he was too smooth, remember,like, well, thanks for telling
me that. In retrospects, likeValentine's Day thing, was it Valentine's Day
or was it no, like hewanted to do like a dinner date where
he had like this fancy menu allplaying it was a birthday that's right.
Okay, he's a chef, right, yeah it was. But that's it
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was just too much. It waslike, what is it called love bombing
when people come on with I don'tthink he was that that was I mean
that was like a month and ahalf ins. I don't think that I've
been love bombed. I don't.He was pretty laid back about it,
but yeah, in retrospect, there'ssome stuff that doesn't like it. It
was like too smooth. Man.Here's the thing, bro, I didn't
know what love bombing was till tilllike last year when the girl I was
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previously talking to was telling me Iwas love bombiting. I didn't know what
the hell that was. I didn'tknow what his thinking. To google it,
yeah, because I was like,what is love bombing? When somebody
just loved you that much and justgives you all of them? Why that
love is? Why does that lovebombing? Because I feel like I think
it's a misused term sometimes, butlook for someone like you, and I
feel like I'm the same way ina certain regard like I'm either all the
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way in or all the way notexactly, either your gray area forever or
I have to talk myself into it, because you know, when you're single
for a long time, especially ifyou're in like comedy or anything else,
you just get used to living thislike free life chilling or I just do
whatever I want to. I don'thave to not that it's bad, but
I don't have to even respond,no text, I don't do anything.
I just live my life exactly,and the freedom gets to be so like
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just it's fun and part of yourlife that at some point in time you
have to choose make the decision tobe like, okay, no, it's
you now. Yeah. So it'salmost like you're love bombing yourself. Okay,
came too, like talking yourself intothis relationship so you don't go screwing
it up by like, you know, the first weekend you're out not texting
her at all. I remember oncewhen I was uh first start dating my
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wife, I felt like I waslike, you had to domesticate a wild
animal. God like she did?No, God, Yeah, I should
very be careful of how I phrasethat, brod she was domesticating wild animal,
not me, because I just Ihad so many bad habits from being
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totally UNA until I was in myearly thirties that it just kind of felt
like there was times where I justdo something so like really dumb. Like
we were in a fight and Iwas at this hotel in Spokane, Washington
because I was doing some road dateson comedy and I was looking at my
phone and she was like, we'rekind of arguing, and I was like,
no, no, I want totalk to her. I just turned
my phone off and threw it overacross the room, and I was like,
no, I'm just not gonna talkto her. And then I go,
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that's probably a bad ide, andthen I'm just going to turn your
phone back, and I turned iton. Of course, there's like two
texts that she just said that wouldhave been really bad if I didn't reply,
and I was like, okay,old me here, you gotta domesticate
yourself. Like old me would havejust been like I'll find my phone whenever
exactly care and then I'll let yoube mad and then I'll have more of
a problem to deal with. See. And it's a difference for me because
I was in a ten year relationship. So it was I was already used
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to, you know, responding andtexting back. So jumping into another relationship
was just like, Okay, I'mjust gonna do this. What I didn't
do good over here, I'm justgoing to do it better over here.
Like not being single for ten yearsand still being single for ten years.
Don't ask questions, you know whatI mean? You was your imagination,
you want to Everyone has their ownrelationships set up, you know, well
it was. It was a onesided set up. This was This wasn't
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a discussion that we both had.You own it growing Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, but yeah,I I should tell myself about him.
I want to think of you thatlike, oh no, no, no,
I am definitely a different person thanI was back then. But I
also jumping out of that relationship andjumping back into the relationship with Brionna,
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it was easy to respond and textand overly text, and I guess that
is kind of a love bombing thing. Yes, they didn't really think about
it when I was younger. Iguess like when you get older and then
you have other things to focus on, Like I think if you're in high
school or even somewhat in college,you have so much extra free time.
Of course is having to be anadult, so it doesn't seem different.
And then I guess I really neverhad that transition from those kind of relationships
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to then being an adult, andI'm like, wait a second, this
is too much at one time.So he I don't know. I thought
it was we were striking a prettygood balance with it, but then yeah,
I don't know, apparently trying tohave an honest conversation, not even
being like I want to make thisofficial, just being like, uh,
we can't. What are we doingtime together? What are we doing?
Let me know, in the progressionof a relationship. We don't have to
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go from like I want to getengaged tomorrow. What from I'm like,
hey, maybe maybe we plan onspending three nights a week exactly exactly,
not to find not my boyfriend,just this and then never heard from him
again. No, it was kindof a weird ghost too, because if
you look at his personality sometimes youknow, dead on, Like I feel
like there's women that I ghosted andthey're like, of course, yeah,
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Like if I'm mad, then that'smy fault definitely, Because like I was
in and out of town and it'slike I wasn't even like this is like
a decade ago. Like I wasn'treally in Seattle. I was in LA.
I was back and forth all thetime, and I'd just be like,
yeah, I'm not really trying todo anything serious. And then if
I just ghosted, like once,I just forgot I was talking to somebody.
How do you forget it? Totallyforgot what I just I don't know,
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I just And it was funny becauseI it was a girl that I
dated in college and we kind oflike hit it off a little bit again,
and I was like, yeah,let's you know, when I'm back
in town. I'm in La,Let's let's go out and grab drinks and
dinner or something. And and thenlike five months later, I was like,
oh damn, I was supposed tohit Rebecca one hundred percent. Dude,
I do that. I've done.I've done that before. Though You've
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never just forgotten you're talking to someone. And then I will hit him.
And then I will hit him liketwo months later and be like, Yo,
how have you been. She's like, Ndal, get the hell off
my phone, Get off my phone, and I see this is what I
don't understand. And this is like, please explain how your brains work,
because as women, we're always thinkingyou have eighteen things at one time,
and I will notice, I'm like, wow, you generally text me at
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this time. You didn't text meat this time. Okay, well let's
let that be and stuff. Andthen two two months so much look at
that and be like like, no, it's psycho that after two months auto
like I pop into your mind andthen you're gonna text me out of the
blue like nothing's wrong. That iss, that's that's that's me all the way.
I'm like, I'm texting you likenothing ever happened. Hey, what
are you up to tonight? Ihave one girl one time, dude,
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I text her after like we didn'ttalk for months. Did she tell you
to f off? No? Onegirl did I text? I texted her.
We had slept with each other andI had texted her like maybe two
three months later. I was like, hey, what are you doing tonight?
Is she telling me? F off? And I just let that text
message on red and kept it moving. But then there's another mother to me
and I almost fell out of mychair laughing because I'm like, I love
this so much because one, you'reso aware self aware. They were like,
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yeah, it makes it, don'tI try? And she's so honest
that she didn't even like she didn'tjust ignore it. No, she's just
like boom. So I feel soundsgood that we're both on the same thing.
I know I've never hit you up. I might be upset, but
I had when I had this onechick one time that I texted her after
like two three months of not talkingto her, and we weren't like seriously
talking, but we were talking likeon and off pretty much for a while.
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And I texted her say, Hey, what are you up to tonight?
She said, not you and Iand I said, and I say,
what does that even mean? Shesaid, ron dew, we haven't
talked in three months? What doyou mean? What am I up to?
I funds like, it's like yesterdayand dude. So I started gaslighting
and I was like, well,you haven't talked to me in three months?
About that? I'll dude. Iflipped the rebirth rehearse card reverse cards.
I was like, you haven't talkedto me in three months? She
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was like, Brundale, the phoneworks birth ways. I was like,
did you hear what you just said? Did you hear what you just said?
The phone works both ways, Butguess what. We hung out that
night and then then did you rememberto text her the next d No,
we hung out, We did whatwe needed to do, and then when
I was leaving out of the house, she said, don't call me everything.
Yeah. I feel like she wasLook, this is like, this
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is like the finale, the end, and this is it. As I'm
walking out the door, she goes, hey, don't call me every again.
And I was like, oh,that's cool. I was like,
I had fun. She was like, I did too, but I don't
ever want to speak to you again. It's like you're so annoying that it's
attractive right now, but after this, you're bad for me. And that's
that's and that's what she was.That's what she was telling me. Like
while we were she was like,fucking hate you. I hate you.
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I was like, all right,this is cool, whatever, whatever me.
All you want is let me,you know, get done with this.
Dad, I won't talk to you. Sometimes honesty is so like refreshingly
weird that they walk away from itgoing like, man, you're mean,
you're man funny like, that's kindof mean, but man, and you
and you and you again, dude. I accepted. I walked up,
I walked out of our house andI felt so liberated. I was like,
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well, I won't be talking toher again. I won't be talking
to her, won't be talking toher again. I hooked up with this
girl named Natalie Sheets, and ohthat's funny. Yeah, Natalie Sheets.
And I met her. The reasonI remember it's funny. She's an actress.
I think she's married. Now,I'm not sure she's a she's from
Germany, but she's an actress.I met in Venice Beach, California.
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I think I was like probably twentyfive, and uh, and I met
her and I was so I remember, I was so proud of myself because
I met her like a normal person, like out, Wasn't that a show,
wasn't that anything? She was bartendingat this at this gala, this
art gala, and my brother wassupposed to be there doing something like filming
it or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, I'll come by. It's
in Venice Beach. Venice is cool, and you know, I got nothing
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to do. And I was justtalking to her every time. I went
and got a drink and then finallyshe was like, she's like, hey,
yeah, you want my number.And I was like, oh my
god, yeah, like we're youknow, exchange numbers whatever. And we
went out one time and uh shesaid she came home with me. And
it was the funniest part was Itext her like a day later and I
was like, hey, Natalie,like it was super fun, like hanging
out. I would love to seeyou again, like whenever you're free.
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And she's like, hey, actuallyI'm not free for like the next couple
of days or next little bit.And I'm like, okay, that's cool.
Like she's like I'm really busy forthe next week or so, and
I'm like, oh, that soundsgood, Like that's all good. And
then then like before I'm able toeven reply to that text, so she
writes, hey, sorry, like, you know, I don't know if
that's gonna work out because I'm prettybusy for the next couple of weeks.
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And then like two seconds, ladyhits me back, actually I'm busy for
like the next few months, allright, So does that hit you the
same as what happened with you atthe DMV where and you're like, can
be evaluating, like what did Ido you wrong night, and like really
yeah, kind of keep playing everythingsame, like same, kind of like
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moment of oh man and well themoment with hert with Natalie was like,
oh man, I thought that wentgood. Yeah, dude, Yes,
that's the worst. Did well andthat is the worst. That is the
worst, bro, when you feelgood about what you did. I did
everything right. I opened her door. Yeah, I paid forgiven. I
hold her hand, I walked onthe right side of the street, did
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everything, stuck around, I madebreakfast. She was wearing like one of
my suit jackets that I had notwalking around the apartment and stuff, and
I was like and then then whenshe's like, no, I'm busy for
the next few months, I waslike, Wow, that's crazy, that's
crazy. Did I not do exactly? I think the worst feeling ever,
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though, is this, This hasto be the worst feeling ever is when
like you actually stopped talking to thosepeople, and those people like cut you
off or whatever, and then yousee them get married and you see them
have kids and you're looking on yourphone You're like, man, I was
supposed to be me. That wassupposed to be I had so many girls
back in the day where I'm looking, I'm just looking at their husbands.
I'm like, man, I'm like, man, you haven't actually lived in
a great life. I was supposedto be that person. It sucks.
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Okay, what about the opposite though, because Brian, you know that if
I really want to find something outonline, I will find it. So
it doesn't matter if this said personblocked all of us, including Brian or
not, I will find that.Yeah, I found stuff out, but
I also recently was just like justfor some time, get to see how
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things were going since he just ghostedme. He deleted his main Instagram,
and all of his plans for hismusic career seemed to be kind of falling
apart. The band's falling apart.They don't have their song out and stuff,
and I'm like, it's bad ofme to be happy about this.
So do you think it was Doyou think it was him going through all
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that? Is that the reason?Why? No? Because this happened after
Oh it's like a karma thing ormaybe so. Look, I mean I
don't know how I believe it.I didn't. I did the same thing
with my ex too. Like,look, Jamie did. I learned knowing
her for about before I actually blockedher. I looked on her page for
about I don't know, maybe likethree four months after we broke up,
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and now I finally blocked her.And then after I blocked her, I
would like, whenever I see oneof my friends that follows her, they
follow each other, I'll be like, hey, man, let me he
your page because I don't want tosee because my pictures are still up on
her page to this day, Likeit's funny, and I'm just gonna.
I'm not gonna. I don't wantto sit here talk crap about my ex
because I don't that's so lame.But I will say this her boyfriend or
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fiance now whatever I'm talking about,there's pictures of them all like he's got
it as a profile picture. Jamiehas no picture of this started to so
I'm just like in my I'm like, wait a minute, man. I'm
like cause when we were together,there was pictures all up on her Instagram
with me like, oh my god, I love you so much, Happy
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birthday to my stubborn boyfriend, allthis sappy stuff, and there's pictures of
her on my Instagram. But I'mjust looking like what is really going on?
Like, what is really going on? I mean, it's one of
two things. My initial feeling islike that is a red flag and that
is not good. That guy shouldbe concerned. Or you ruined it for
her so bad. That might bethe exactly. That might be the same
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thing too, Or she probably doesn'twant people to know that she's dating this
right ugly. Yeah dude, maybeI'm just saying she probably knows people are
looking to see if she downgraded itup because they look at my page and
they go, Yo, this kidis killing it this this guy is doing
really well for him, So okay, this guy's good. Great, And
then you go to and it's justlike what happened? It makes it it's
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funny. I laugh. But thenI realized Jessica has like no pictures of
me on her social media. Sherarely posts anyway, like at all.
One time she did get mad atme. She's like, I didn't think
she ever would, but she gotmad at me because I didn't put up
a Mother's Day post on social media? What is wrong with you? Well,
I had it, Okay, Ican understand I was in draft.
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I can understand I was trying tolook. You can't. You can't justify
this raft here what happened. Itwas in drafts because I had a picture
of Jessica, had a picture ofmy mom, and then I had a
picture of one of my grandma's andI was looking for the other grandma who's
way harder to find. She's moreelusive on social media because she passed away
in like like two thousand and four, so it's hard to find photos of
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her. So and when I gotin trouble for it, I pulled up
and like, I forgot I hada draft going. And then I pulled
up Facebook and it said like Ihad a post draft and I was like,
oh damn. And I was like, I don't think I can go
back and retroactively win this one.Jessica, Look, I did have one.
I definitely thought. I believe you. I did have it in drafts,
and I forgot I had it indrafts. I don't understand men.
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I don't understand how you forget thatyou were talking to somebody. I don't
forget how you like you forget Ohman, I never did post that dad
like that all the time. No, No, look, you said that
women are always thinking about eighteen differentthings. Men are always forgetting eighteen different
thing at the same time. Iam forgetting eighteen things every second, and
another thing is gone, Ye thatI forgot, I'm rember it, and
then I remember it, and thenI remember something that I forgot, and
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then the thing that I was thinkingabout, I forget about that exactly.
Then I was like amber thing.Except for example, I walked into the
building lobby at my apartment last nightand I was like, damn, I
am supposed to do something down here, and I took Leo to go outside.
I'm like, there's someone I'm supposedto do. And then I'm like,
what was the thing I said Ido? And then I'm like I
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go check the mail nothing and wedon't have any packages, and I'm like,
dang it. And I'm like,well, why did I come down
here anyway? Exactly get I can'tremember what I was supposed to do down
here either. So then in theelevator, I remember, oh, we
found another apartment fob like on thefloor of the building, and so I
was gonna see if it worked inthe elevator, you know, because for
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guests know whatever. I was like, Damn, we found a fob,
that's awesome. And then I andthen I get up and Jess goes,
hey, did you go get thething from the rent office. I'm like,
damn, that's why I went downthere to begin with so many things
going and all that, and thenI forgot that, and then I remember
the thing that I forgot, butforgot the thing that I was exactly.
It's a back it's a back andforth thing, man, and it's never
gonna change. Men will always bethat way, and it will always be
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that way. I forgot my mom'sbirthday this year. Listen, and I'm
gonna tell you the story about thatI forgot her birthday. I walked downstairs.
I was like, oh, Mom, your birthdays them all right?
She goes, No, my birthdayis today, but the parties tomorrow.
I was like, wait, yourbirthday's today. She was like, yeah,
on Dale my birthdays to day.And I can just see that my
mom's face, just like, God, you're stupid, idiot. I made
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this and you can't even remember mybirthday. Oh bro, I didn't forget
it. I forgot like I'll alwaysremember my mom's birthday. Then Jess will
be like, did you send heranything? And I'm like, you call
her, Yeah, I remember that. I remember the day. I remember
the day, bro, I rememberthe day. So is it a red
flag that you don't poast her?Do you poast her when you had when
your ex ex boyfriend, the onein Chicago? Did you post them all?
Of course? I mean not tomy much, but you uh,
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yes. But I've gone through thisbad string of people where they're not super
social media people, which is alwayssort of a red flag to me.
But now I don't know. Sincepandemic, I don't love social media anymore,
so it's like less important to me, but it always gives me pause.
If you have no digital footprint,I feel like you're hiding something a
lot so lot. So that's kindof why we're looking back now. I
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was like, Okay, it's notthis huge deal. But he posted me
some but he's not really on it, so I can't really answer. Yeah,
I don't think. I don't thinkI would. Do you execute those
people once you break up with them? Well? Yeah? Are you?
Yeah? Do you stop talking?Do you like like literally Facebook execute like
oh? Or like or execute fromyour Instagram like you No? No,
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I think depending on what happened withthe breakup, but in general, no,
Like my last boyfriend that I hadthat didn't end badly, he there's
still pictures of him up there,I would say the one prior to that,
because there was a question of himcheating or not. Like my friend
was like, hey, I foundyour boyfriend on bumble and sent me a
screenshot and then try he tried togaslight me when I brought it up.
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So I think I think I diddelete pretty much all of him. It
depends, but most of the time. No, there's lots of lots of
my exes. I still talk toyou. I mean, I wish I
had that luxury of talking to myexes. I can. I don't think
I could talk to any of it, but maybe like like emotionally, No,
emotionally, I definitely I'm in away better. They don't want to
talk to him. That's that's theissue. A lot of them I'm still
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cool with. Like if I callit in your mind, no, no,
no, if I called him,it'll pick up. But there's not
like the skepticism. Yeah, there'salways like run shadow when they're waiting for
like what do you really? Always? Oh you doing? How's your mom?
Literally? Always I get that likewhat do you want? Run deal?
But it's not like it's not likeyou're annoying. It's just like I
know you called me. I knowyou're calling me to have something or like
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you want to just love bombing.Yeah there's something here. And usually I
do get on there and I'd belike, girl, I miss you so
much, like say you do itand they get out on the phone and
it's like, shut up, stoptalking to it. I gotta go.
Click. So speaking of like goingand lurking on the people or just like
you dated or whatever. Because Facebook'sweird, you'll, I mean, now
at this point, like I've we'veall been on it for like ten,
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twelve whatever years, So you havefriends that you're never gonna ever see again.
For sure, we're going to findout people are dead on Facebook.
You're like, oh my god,you're gonna fight. Yeah, it's crazy.
You're gonna see like people have movedon with their lives, like they
live in total different parts of theworld. And so I had this interesting
one happened the other day. Iwas working on the show and all,
and I rarely am on Facebook.Facebook. Usually I just post on like
whatever pages I need you for comedyor for the radio station, for the
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show or whatever. And all ofa sudden, this girl Carolyn came up
and I was like, oh,man, I clicked on her page and
like, damn, she's still marriedto that guy. Crazy right. And
the reason that I thought that theyhave five kids. They live in Houston,
Texas. And the reason is isso this girl hit me up.
This happened like, man, Iwas like in my early twenties, like
in on the road doing comedy.Wasn't even in radio yet. I was
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doing like guest appearance on radio andlike man on the Street stuff. But
and I was always on the roaddoing college shows and stuff. And she
hits me up and she's telling meabout she's going through this divorce and her
her ex husband or soon to beex' this big piece of trash and she
has five kids. And she's likestunning, right, she's really really pretty.
And so one time I'm in Seattleand she hits me out of the
blue and she's like, hey,I'm staying at the Weston Hotel this weekend.
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I saw you're gonna be in towndoing shows like let's get lunch.
And I was like, oh,sounds good, Like I had never like
really met this person in personally.She was a friend of a friend.
Oh got you, I got you, I got She was like a friend
of a friend who somehow saw meon their pages. She hit me up
like so it was kind of athing where I knew she's a real person.
She was with one of my friendsfrom high school, like one of
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my best girlfriends, and uh soshe hits me up. But it's soup.
So what happens is she hits meup and I get to the hotel
and she's like, no, justcome upstairs, and I'm like I'm not
ready, and I'm like all right. So I get upstairs and she's got
like she ordered like a cheese platterand stuff, and basically she's just like,
hey, look like I'm going througha really rough spell right now.
I have five kids, and Ilike, she's basically just like I just
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want some action, and did youwalk in Like this is a guy's dream
in my dead kind of. Iwas like nervous because I don't know her
that well. Yeah, and she'sgoing through a divorce at the top.
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