October 13, 2025 • 26 mins
Chicago tries to ice I.C.E. Officers, a democrat candidate fantasizes about killing the opposition, and potty mouth Kamala gives an example of why she lost the election. You might ask after you hear this week's "did they really just say that" cuts where has all the civility gone?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chicago tries to ice ice officers, a Democrat candidate fantasizes
about killing the opposition, and pottymouth Kamala gives an example
of why she lost the election. You might ask after
you hear this week's did they really just say that cuts?
Where has all the civility gone?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm Nancy Shack.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Where was all the civility gone? I'm Ben Parker?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is newspite.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Thirty Nice Place and Kazi were saying that they were
being surrounded by that large crowd and they were requesting
the police for not sending waving off all the cars
heading the thirty Nice Places and Catsie.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I am so deeply, deeply sorry for what I said,
and I wish that it hadn't happened, and I would
take it back if I could, because.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It was so much about they lost their life.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I've lost.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh that's the former vice president of the US trying
to I don't know what, prove that she knows swear words,
or that she's got some kind of street cred, saying
that the mother bleepers are crazy. We can we can
hear that one again. Cut twenty A. Give those emotions,
give that experience to those people that you were writing
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about and writing it gives.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That my point of helping people just put a laying
on it, even if it doesn't change the circumstance, because
there was so much.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
About this moment that it's trying to make people feel like.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
They've lost their minds.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay to cheers.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I like the cheering at the end of we are
so lucky that she did not win. She is just
jumping off the cliff in her book tour. And by
the way, did you know that she has made more
appearances on her book tour than she made running for president.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I mean maybe that has something to do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
She gets more money for a book appearances than running
for president, So you know, I mean, why not? I
guess strike while the iron's hot, I guess. You know,
here's the I don't know what the future holds for anybody,
but I think Kamala Harris is running low on her
fifteen minutes of fame and eventually it will trickle away.
I don't see her as one of those people who
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hangs around for the next forty or fifty years in
American politics. I'm may be wrong, and it will know
when it happens, but It just kind of seems like
she she climbed up the hill, she got to the
top of the hill as far as her hill was concerned,
and she's just kind of hanging out there as long
as she can before she just fades off into the sunset.
I mean, I don't think she.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Actually believes that that she's gonna fade off into the sung.
I do I think she will. I think you're right.
I don't think she thinks she will. No, I think
she thinks that she's that there's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
A second act coming, blinded by the light.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Blinded by something, could be stupidity, I don't know, or
just you know. I mean, she's in public, that was
I think up on nob hell. She's in San Francisco
speaking to a group of people, and oh my god,
she thinks it's okay for probably the most visible woman
politician this country has ever had, and she's up there
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calling people mother bleepers.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know, you know it a role model. If it
appeals to her base, then sure, go ahead whatever. Like
I said, she's hanging on to the last strings of
her of her orchestra and her the fifteen minutes of fame.
It may be ticking down very rapidly, so sure, say
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whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, speaking of jumping off of a cliff, have you
heard what the Virginia candidate for AG did, Jay Jones,
his name is is he texted to somebody, a friend
about his fantasies about murdering Republicans and their wives and children.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I did see that, and you.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Know, and there have been calls, mostly from the right,
some from the left for him to withdraw from the
race over the fact that he's calling for violence and
putting out there that he publicly fantasizes about murdering people.
But he thinks an apology solves the whole problem. Cut
twenty one.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Please, A lot of politics is about trust. I can
think of nothing more horrific than a mother having to
hold her dying child. How can Virginians trust a man
who said something so horrific so callously.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well, again, I am so deeply, deeply sorry for what
I said, and I wish that it hadn't happened, and
I would take it back if I could, he.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Says, a little pissed off. You know, I wish that
it hadn't happened. That's like something happened to you, like
you're getting hit by a truck. I wish that hadn't happened.
He did this, This is an action of his.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I almost feel more like the line should have been
I wish I hadn't been caught doing this. Is that
kind of something.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's actually the truth of the matter, as I wish
this hadn't happened, Well, you did it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What do you mean you wish?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
When you wish something didn't happen, it's that something happened
to you, not something that you did. And it just
it just seems disingenuous.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I mean, I saw the text in one of the stories,
and I don't know where they got the text from
and somebody gave it up or whatever. But so one
of the things that jumped out at me was and
I don't know, you probably do or might who he
was texting with. Oh okay, so but if you if
you see what he writes something and then uh, the
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response is Jay Jones, That's that's it, right, And then
and he texts something else about the killing the people,
and it's just Jay, and and you think, like the
guy's going what the believe? You know, Sometimes you'd be like, look, Nancy, Nancy,
come on, And that almost seemed like what it was like,
like even the person he was texting with was like, all,
j Jay, what are you doing? So that's how I
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kind of felt about that. That that that's what the
reaction was happening on the other end of the phone.
Of course too, it's hard to interpret what people are
thinking when they're texting. Sometimes you get a text, you know,
and you go, why are they saying it like that?
Well they're not, They're just texting a word. But anyway,
it just seemed like the person on the other end
was like, she's, you know, the senator.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
From Virginia, Timkine, you know, former VP Candida himself is
still supporting Jay Jones for AG and he's saying, you know,
well he apologized, what more do you want. Here's here's
my issue. It's not that he texted it or said it,
which is bad. It's that he thought it that and
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that you can't apologize for it. That is who you are,
so to me, and that's not the least of his problems.
He also apparently put out there that they thought cops
should cops should be killed, and so I mean, and
this is a guy running to be the top law
enforcement officer in his state. The police union's come out said, yeah,
we don't want him, Please have him withdraw. Even Joe
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Scarborough on MSNBC is calling for Jones to withdraw from
the race. Cut twenty one a coming up. An attorney
general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his text it's
about a state lawmaker.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
We'll go through and probably be forced to withdraw from
the rest and probably is doing a lot there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, and that's you know, one of the most anti
Trump liberal talk show hosts she'll ever find in your life.
Although Mika didn't sound too thrilled that her husband said that,
But but yeah, I mean, this is this is bizarre.
And this, by the way, all happened within a month
of Charlie Kirk being assassinated and the Democrats having pointed
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out to them that they're violent rhetoric. Their rhetoric calling
for violence is having an actual physical response, and people
are taking them at their word and committing violent acts.
And then we have this and he won't withdraw, and
he's running. He's not just running for office, he's running
for top cop in his state. And he wants fantasizing
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about killing people, watching their wives and children, suffer killing them,
and he thinks police should be killed too, and that's
the guy run and he thinks it's okay, I'm sorry,
I'm off already. I'm sorry. I mean, that's kind of
what I got from his apology. It.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know, sometimes and I think we I don't want
to say everybody's done it, but most of us probably
at one time or another, some thought is run through
our head like a weird thing, like we're really pissed
off at someone in traffic or other stuff, and so
you think, oh, I shouldn't think that, but but you
keep one. You keep it in your head and you
don't just blurt it out or text it to the world.
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But also you don't really mean it. You're just like like, like,
if you get cut off in traffic, I'm sure some
people have been going to kill that guy. You don't
mean that. This text kind of seemed like he meant it. Yeah,
And there is it maybe a fine line, and I'm
sure that that we could have a debate about that.
But uh, just because you think something and it's not
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a great thing, it doesn't mean you really think. It's
just flashing in your head and what the hell you're
a human so far.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This was complex, study details.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
This was it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
R right. It wasn't just like wow, I'd like to
kill that guy, you know, it's it's more. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It was just bad.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It was almost like his manifesto.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think I think he's doing his party a disservice.
At least they could try to put somebody else in
instead of him to run if IF in Virginia. But
I think I think he's it's Kennis. He should be
dead in the water. I hope to god, don't think
have an issue.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Don't they have anybody who could run for a g
in Virginia who doesn't want to kill people but just
maybe wants to name them or something.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I think there might be one, just.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Somebody who just wants to break legs or or you know,
crack somebody upside the skull.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't know that they're Democrats and that's what we need.
That's what they not we but them in Virginia. They're
like a Democrat run and Democrats are really deep bleep
because you know, they keep coming up with people like
this running for office, making outrageous statements and think that
the voters don't notice that this is a bizarre statement
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and indicative of a deep rooted problem. And I don't
think the Democrat Party gets it. Understand that people are
tired of the bad behavior, of the hyperbolic statements, of
the calling for violence when you just don't like or
agree with somebody. And nowhere, I think is this more
apparent than in Chicago, where the Governor JB. Pritzker and
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the mayor Brandon Johnson are fighting the Trump administration who
wants to send and actually who has sent National Guard.
He's at National Guard from Texas to help with crime
and ice and rounding up illegals, and people are saying, well,
he's done it with crime in DC and that was successful,
but you're sending him out to help with the illegals. Yes,
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and there's a reason why. First of all, the Governor
Pritzker has hyped up the population to believe that what
President Trump is doing is an invasion, a thread against
democracy and right up there with fascism. So he has
gone into the same level of hyperbolic rhetoric that has
gotten the Democratic Party in trouble for the past year
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or so, and he's amped it up cut to be.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Since the beginning of this invasion families have been snatched
up off the streets or removed from their homes, zip
tied and detained for hours, including especially US citizens and
legal residents of our state. And in the words of
CBP Chief Patrol Agent Greg Bovino, they're being chosen by
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how they look. Peaceful protesters have been hit with tear
gas and shot with rubber bullets. Journalists simply reporting the
fact it's on the ground have been targeted and arrested.
US citizens, including children, have been traumatized and detained.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Now that sounds pretty bad, right, except that that isn't true.
He's just out there, you know, trying to try to
make people terrified. It's called you know, it's fear. It's
fear mongering.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And then he does something that's not true.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, and then he goes on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow
and says, this is why they're doing this. Cut nine
a next year.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I fear that what they're going to do is deploy
these folks eventually two polling places and say they're protecting
the vote. Donald Trump knows that without shenanigans and without
this these breaches of the constitution, that he's going to
lose the Congress, and if he loses, he's going to
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immediately in the aftermath of the election do what he
said he might do in twenty twenty, which is use
the military to confiscate the ballot boxes and count the votes,
claiming that there's fraud. Remember, he's called up all fifty
states election data to the Department of Justice because they
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want to review all fifty states for fraud. And they
won't tell you exactly what they're going to do. But
I fear that these are all connected.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So not only is he making people afraid that if
you are a minority, the National Guard is going to
make you disappear, but he's saying it's all because he's
going to impose a dictatorship and take over the ballot
boxes in the next presidential or next midterm election. It
is all horrific fear mongering, and he lies through his teeth.
And one of the really appalling moments was the Ice,
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not the National Guard, but the Ice was there to
round up illegals. Right well, because of this rhetoric that
you're hearing from Pritzker and from the mayor Brandon Johnson,
some people who are not right in the head or
or easily swayable are thinking that they need to fight
back against anybody's who's arresting anybody that includes police, that
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includes ICE, that includes National Guard, and because they're going
to make them disappear, and it's all fake and it's
all Trump taking over as a fascists. As opposed to
these are border patrol agents arresting illegals who most of
them have horrific criminal histories and are out harming people
and that's why they're getting them off the streets. So
what happened in Chicago is the ICE agents were surrounded
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by a group of ten cars and there was a
woman with an automatic weapon trying to shoot them. So
what did they do? They called the police, and what
did the Chicago Police superintendent do with the at the
behest of the governor, they refuse to respond. They refused
to help the ICE officers who were under fire. Now,
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Governor Prisker says, you know, oh no, that never happened.
That is a bold based lie that would never happen
and this is just propaganda by the Department of Homeland
Security cut number five.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
The spokesperson for DHS, Tricia McLaughlin, accused Chicago police of
leaving the scene and refusing to assist agents in securing
the area. What do you know about this incident? We're
federal agents boxed in and assaulted.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Well, we don't have a lot of facts. What happens
in these sorts of incidence is typically Ice puts out
a press release before anybody else can speak with the press,
and then it gets reported on social media and elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, so he said it's propaganda. Didn't happen, Well, as
luck would happen. The thing that the Chicago Police do
is everything is taped, and that includes nine one one calls,
That includes dispatcher communications to the police cars. And guess
what we have. We have the dispatcher, the tape of
the dispatcher telling the police not to go and help
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Ice cut one bee.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And again for the chief of Patrol, we have all
the units that for nine ninety nine, chief of Patrol said,
all units clear out from there. We're not sending anybody
over to that location, right, And nine ninety nine just
took him from a thirty ninth place in Kezzi. They
were saying that they were being surrounded by that large
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crowd and they were requesting the police were not sending
waving off all the cars having the thirty ninth place
in Ketzi again.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Given, Oh my god, does that sound like propaganda to you? So?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
JB.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Pritzker lies like a rug, and he just assumes that
either the people of Chicago and the rest of us,
because he's trying to convince everybody across the country, are
either too stupid to realize that he's lying, or too
lazy to check out if he's two lizing. Either way,
he has a very low opinion of us, and he
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thinks he can just go and lie.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
There's a nine.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
They were told stand down, so they left the ice
officers on their own to deal with a woman with
a freaking machine gun basically and people using cars to
box them in. That's what was happening.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Hey, I thought they had gun laws in Chicago that
made the city safe for how people get in automatic
weapons those I mean, that's that they've.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Been being responding on a petty level to ice and immigration,
but that put people's lives in danger. That was actually
putting people in harm's way what they did right there,
I mean, they've been doing the weird crap. I mean
they stopped this was on one level, funny, I suppose
not if you were in that particular group, but Secretary
Gnome and on an ice patrol, they stopped at a
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federal building, a city building that gets federal funds to
use the restrooms. Okay, guess what happened?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
No goal?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, cut or thirteen.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right, thank you. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
That's why Governor Pritzker says, is cooperation and keeping people safe.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, not using And then she was asked about that
later when she did a TV interview. Cut thirteen A.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So why wouldn't they let you in? What's been going
on here? What's been going on here?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Sectarry, We're coming to go out and do some operations
to pick up some guys with criminal convictions on them,
and the city police wouldn't even let us use a restaurant.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
And you were just blocked by us by a worker
here for the city.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
You're at the.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Beautiful building here, broad work, which would not allow us
to go in and to use the restroom at the
police station. So as much as these local leaders and
governors talk about cooperating and having the backs of our
law enforcement upsters, let's hope we answer whatever every single day. Now,
that was that was just petty crap. You know, not
letting them use the bathroom at the police station. But
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what they did in making the police stand down when
they were being attacked by people after they were riled
up by the governor and the mayor. That's not petty.
That's actually putting people in harm's way. It's also obstruction
of justice. So I am thinking that there might be
criminal charges coming down the road. I don't know if
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for the mayor. I don't know for the governor. I
don't know if there's somebody in between that could take
the fall for them, But I think something bad is
about to happen to somebody after that, because people could
have been killed and it would have been completely at
their doorstep.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And the same and by the way, so if they
did bring charges, which may very well be warranted, there's
still going to be the same half of the people
who are defending the charged. I mean, I don't know
how much this fixes more than I mean to make
us feel good. Right, Hey, this guy committed a crime,
they should charge them. Then they charge them, and all
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of a sudden, oh, you're charging them because you're a
fascist and you're find so I don't I mean, not
that they shouldn't charged. I'm trying to say this in
a way that doesn't sound like they shouldn't charge people
who deserve to be charged. But it's like, what are
you really solving. I mean, this whole, this whole thing
is an attitude problem. Not all of it. There's deeper
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than that, but it really is, you know, this whole
We don't like you, so we're gonna make crap up.
We're going to stop this. But then when you try
to stop us from doing what we're doing, we're going
to make you look like the bad guy because you
try to stop us by charging us or whatever. I mean,
look at look at the camy thing. Yeah you know,
I mean, you can't charge somebody for doing something wrong
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because then they'll start pointing the finger at you that
you're wrong for charging them and you're actually just being
vindictive and why would you do that, and blah blah blah.
It's this whole We are in this really vicious circle
of lunacy.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, lunacy is a good word for it. I like
that word for it. Discourtesy, lunacy just maybe egocentricity, people
just thinking about themselves and not the effect they have.
I don't know what it is, but it is dangerous.
It's one thing when it's just when it's just annoying
or hurtful to somebody on an emotional or mental level.
But we're talking putting people in harms way now physically,
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and that's you know, that's so far over the line
it's not even funny. So we end every week with
a truth or troll. This week is no exception. Okay, well,
you know it's going to be President Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So I was doing like the Karnak thing troll. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So in this case, he's in the Oval Office with
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and who says, thanks so
much for hosting me, and it goes through some of
Donald Trump's achievements and he says, we're going to have
some rellat, big discussions on the most important issue. And
what do you hear? What President Trump thinks the most
important issue is cut number four.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
You kindly hosted me and some of my colleagues a
few months ago, and I said at the time, you
are a transformative president. And since then, the transformation in
the economy, unprecedented commitments of NATO partners to defense, spending,
peace from India Pakistan through to Azerbaijan, Armenia, disabling Iran
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is a force of terror and now and I'm running
out of time, but this is many respects, the most.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Important traded of Canada.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Not like that wasn't where I was going.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So I don't think he's given up on it. He
mentioned earlier this year that Canada make a mighty fine
fifty first date, and I don't think he's given up.
I think, I mean, he does it in a very
jocular way, but do you think he's actually thinking there's
got to be a way to annex Canada?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So you think it's yeah, I do, And first of all, well,
first of all, I just think it is. Second of all,
I always laugh when they say making Canada the fifty
first state. In theory, even if you were going to
annex Canada, they would have to become the fifty first,
fifty second, fifty third, fifty fourth, six. Yeah, so they're
not just going to be the fifty first state anyway,
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which right off the bat makes that a troll. But
I don't know, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, here's the thing. I would have said no
off the top, but when I sit and think about
it for a while, he keeps bringing it up. Is
he continually trolling Canada or in the back of his
mind somewhere is and I understand, you know it's unwilledy
to do it as a single state, But is he
trying to figure a way to cut Canada loose from
Great Britain and bring it under some kind of umbrella
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with the US. I wouldn't be surprised if while he's
making these jokes, somewhere in the back of his envelope
push in mind is how do we cut them loose
from Great Britain?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So instead of the King Charles being the head of
State of Canada, President Trump would be the head of
State of Canada or whoever the president is of the US.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Somehow and bring them in some way, I don't know how.
Like you said, they'd have to be the next ten
states to enter the Union. You know you'd have to
have You'd have Ottawa, you have k Back, you'd have Toronto.
You know where the states are now, the provinces are now,
they would be states.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Listen, listen, you want a good idea if you if
you really want to add on another state or a
series of states using Canada, don't take the whole joint
like the first fifty miles into Canada. You take that
because everything north of there there's a lot of you know,
those little villages and places where you can't do anything
because it's one hundred and fifty below zero in the window.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What they got up there, ski natural resources, Well they
do with that, you know, So I think I think
you'd want those areas.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So leave the first fifty miles and take the rest,
take all of you. I'm just saying that way you
can say we'll not taking the whole country.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I mean, Great Britain is losing things left and right,
so why not Canada?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Seriously, why not just as Canada?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know there, they're all the continent with us. Let's
be part of the We'll figure out a way to
make them happy. I mean, you don't do it against
their will. Obviously there's not going to be troops invading Canada.
It's going to be this is economically for your benefit.
Let's replace the queen with you know, or a king
in this case, with a with membership in Congress.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
What do you say, Well, he wants Greenland too, so
that's you know, that pushes him a little further across
the Atlantic, and then you could take just take great Britain.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Then the globalists were all about Europe being, you know,
encroaching upon others, So why don't we do it the
other way around. We'll do one planet, but it starts
with us. How about that? I mean, so, I'm somewhere
in the back of his head, I think Trump is
thinking there's gotta be a way to cut Canada loose
from graape Britain.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
We already have one of the princes over here, so
we're already They're already part of sailing plant, you know. Yeah,
well that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think you know, how about this, We'll take Canada.
We'll give you back markle and and Prince Harry. You
can have those guys back, and we'll take Canada for you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
How's that?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I mean, sure, that's a great deal. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm good with them.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I think they'd rather we let them keep Canada and
and we keep the Prince.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So what do you what do you think? Everybody truth
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Speaker 3 (26:03):
I'm Nancy Shack, I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
This is Newspite
Chicago tries to ice ice officers, a Democrat candidate fantasizes
about killing the opposition, and pottymouth Kamala gives an example
of why she lost the election. You might ask after
you hear this week's did they really just say that cuts?
Where has all the civility gone?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm Nancy Shack.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Where was all the civility gone? I'm Ben Parker?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is newspite.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Thirty Nice Place and Kazi were saying that they were
being surrounded by that large crowd and they were requesting
the police for not sending waving off all the cars
heading the thirty Nice Places and Catsie.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I am so deeply, deeply sorry for what I said,
and I wish that it hadn't happened, and I would
take it back if I could, because.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It was so much about they lost their life.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I've lost.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh that's the former vice president of the US trying
to I don't know what, prove that she knows swear words,
or that she's got some kind of street cred, saying
that the mother bleepers are crazy. We can we can
hear that one again. Cut twenty A. Give those emotions,
give that experience to those people that you were writing
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about and writing it gives.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That my point of helping people just put a laying
on it, even if it doesn't change the circumstance, because
there was so much.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
About this moment that it's trying to make people feel like.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
They've lost their minds.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay to cheers.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I like the cheering at the end of we are
so lucky that she did not win. She is just
jumping off the cliff in her book tour. And by
the way, did you know that she has made more
appearances on her book tour than she made running for president.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I mean maybe that has something to do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
She gets more money for a book appearances than running
for president, So you know, I mean, why not? I
guess strike while the iron's hot, I guess. You know,
here's the I don't know what the future holds for anybody,
but I think Kamala Harris is running low on her
fifteen minutes of fame and eventually it will trickle away.
I don't see her as one of those people who
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hangs around for the next forty or fifty years in
American politics. I'm may be wrong, and it will know
when it happens, but It just kind of seems like
she she climbed up the hill, she got to the
top of the hill as far as her hill was concerned,
and she's just kind of hanging out there as long
as she can before she just fades off into the sunset.
I mean, I don't think she.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Actually believes that that she's gonna fade off into the sung.
I do I think she will. I think you're right.
I don't think she thinks she will. No, I think
she thinks that she's that there's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
A second act coming, blinded by the light.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Blinded by something, could be stupidity, I don't know, or
just you know. I mean, she's in public, that was
I think up on nob hell. She's in San Francisco
speaking to a group of people, and oh my god,
she thinks it's okay for probably the most visible woman
politician this country has ever had, and she's up there
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calling people mother bleepers.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know, you know it a role model. If it
appeals to her base, then sure, go ahead whatever. Like
I said, she's hanging on to the last strings of
her of her orchestra and her the fifteen minutes of fame.
It may be ticking down very rapidly, so sure, say
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whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, speaking of jumping off of a cliff, have you
heard what the Virginia candidate for AG did, Jay Jones,
his name is is he texted to somebody, a friend
about his fantasies about murdering Republicans and their wives and children.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I did see that, and you.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Know, and there have been calls, mostly from the right,
some from the left for him to withdraw from the
race over the fact that he's calling for violence and
putting out there that he publicly fantasizes about murdering people.
But he thinks an apology solves the whole problem. Cut
twenty one.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Please, A lot of politics is about trust. I can
think of nothing more horrific than a mother having to
hold her dying child. How can Virginians trust a man
who said something so horrific so callously.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well, again, I am so deeply, deeply sorry for what
I said, and I wish that it hadn't happened, and
I would take it back if I could, he.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Says, a little pissed off. You know, I wish that
it hadn't happened. That's like something happened to you, like
you're getting hit by a truck. I wish that hadn't happened.
He did this, This is an action of his.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I almost feel more like the line should have been
I wish I hadn't been caught doing this. Is that
kind of something.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's actually the truth of the matter, as I wish
this hadn't happened, Well, you did it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What do you mean you wish?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
When you wish something didn't happen, it's that something happened
to you, not something that you did. And it just
it just seems disingenuous.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I mean, I saw the text in one of the stories,
and I don't know where they got the text from
and somebody gave it up or whatever. But so one
of the things that jumped out at me was and
I don't know, you probably do or might who he
was texting with. Oh okay, so but if you if
you see what he writes something and then uh, the
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response is Jay Jones, That's that's it, right, And then
and he texts something else about the killing the people,
and it's just Jay, and and you think, like the
guy's going what the believe? You know, Sometimes you'd be like, look, Nancy, Nancy,
come on, And that almost seemed like what it was like,
like even the person he was texting with was like, all,
j Jay, what are you doing? So that's how I
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kind of felt about that. That that that's what the
reaction was happening on the other end of the phone.
Of course too, it's hard to interpret what people are
thinking when they're texting. Sometimes you get a text, you know,
and you go, why are they saying it like that?
Well they're not, They're just texting a word. But anyway,
it just seemed like the person on the other end
was like, she's, you know, the senator.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
From Virginia, Timkine, you know, former VP Candida himself is
still supporting Jay Jones for AG and he's saying, you know,
well he apologized, what more do you want. Here's here's
my issue. It's not that he texted it or said it,
which is bad. It's that he thought it that and
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that you can't apologize for it. That is who you are,
so to me, and that's not the least of his problems.
He also apparently put out there that they thought cops
should cops should be killed, and so I mean, and
this is a guy running to be the top law
enforcement officer in his state. The police union's come out said, yeah,
we don't want him, Please have him withdraw. Even Joe
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Scarborough on MSNBC is calling for Jones to withdraw from
the race. Cut twenty one a coming up. An attorney
general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his text it's
about a state lawmaker.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
We'll go through and probably be forced to withdraw from
the rest and probably is doing a lot there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, and that's you know, one of the most anti
Trump liberal talk show hosts she'll ever find in your life.
Although Mika didn't sound too thrilled that her husband said that,
But but yeah, I mean, this is this is bizarre.
And this, by the way, all happened within a month
of Charlie Kirk being assassinated and the Democrats having pointed
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out to them that they're violent rhetoric. Their rhetoric calling
for violence is having an actual physical response, and people
are taking them at their word and committing violent acts.
And then we have this and he won't withdraw, and
he's running. He's not just running for office, he's running
for top cop in his state. And he wants fantasizing
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about killing people, watching their wives and children, suffer killing them,
and he thinks police should be killed too, and that's
the guy run and he thinks it's okay, I'm sorry,
I'm off already. I'm sorry. I mean, that's kind of
what I got from his apology. It.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know, sometimes and I think we I don't want
to say everybody's done it, but most of us probably
at one time or another, some thought is run through
our head like a weird thing, like we're really pissed
off at someone in traffic or other stuff, and so
you think, oh, I shouldn't think that, but but you
keep one. You keep it in your head and you
don't just blurt it out or text it to the world.
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But also you don't really mean it. You're just like like, like,
if you get cut off in traffic, I'm sure some
people have been going to kill that guy. You don't
mean that. This text kind of seemed like he meant it. Yeah,
And there is it maybe a fine line, and I'm
sure that that we could have a debate about that.
But uh, just because you think something and it's not
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a great thing, it doesn't mean you really think. It's
just flashing in your head and what the hell you're
a human so far.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This was complex, study details.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
This was it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
R right. It wasn't just like wow, I'd like to
kill that guy, you know, it's it's more. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It was just bad.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It was almost like his manifesto.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think I think he's doing his party a disservice.
At least they could try to put somebody else in
instead of him to run if IF in Virginia. But
I think I think he's it's Kennis. He should be
dead in the water. I hope to god, don't think
have an issue.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Don't they have anybody who could run for a g
in Virginia who doesn't want to kill people but just
maybe wants to name them or something.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I think there might be one, just.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Somebody who just wants to break legs or or you know,
crack somebody upside the skull.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't know that they're Democrats and that's what we need.
That's what they not we but them in Virginia. They're
like a Democrat run and Democrats are really deep bleep
because you know, they keep coming up with people like
this running for office, making outrageous statements and think that
the voters don't notice that this is a bizarre statement
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and indicative of a deep rooted problem. And I don't
think the Democrat Party gets it. Understand that people are
tired of the bad behavior, of the hyperbolic statements, of
the calling for violence when you just don't like or
agree with somebody. And nowhere, I think is this more
apparent than in Chicago, where the Governor JB. Pritzker and
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the mayor Brandon Johnson are fighting the Trump administration who
wants to send and actually who has sent National Guard.
He's at National Guard from Texas to help with crime
and ice and rounding up illegals, and people are saying, well,
he's done it with crime in DC and that was successful,
but you're sending him out to help with the illegals. Yes,
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and there's a reason why. First of all, the Governor
Pritzker has hyped up the population to believe that what
President Trump is doing is an invasion, a thread against
democracy and right up there with fascism. So he has
gone into the same level of hyperbolic rhetoric that has
gotten the Democratic Party in trouble for the past year
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or so, and he's amped it up cut to be.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Since the beginning of this invasion families have been snatched
up off the streets or removed from their homes, zip
tied and detained for hours, including especially US citizens and
legal residents of our state. And in the words of
CBP Chief Patrol Agent Greg Bovino, they're being chosen by
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how they look. Peaceful protesters have been hit with tear
gas and shot with rubber bullets. Journalists simply reporting the
fact it's on the ground have been targeted and arrested.
US citizens, including children, have been traumatized and detained.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Now that sounds pretty bad, right, except that that isn't true.
He's just out there, you know, trying to try to
make people terrified. It's called you know, it's fear. It's
fear mongering.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And then he does something that's not true.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, and then he goes on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow
and says, this is why they're doing this. Cut nine
a next year.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I fear that what they're going to do is deploy
these folks eventually two polling places and say they're protecting
the vote. Donald Trump knows that without shenanigans and without
this these breaches of the constitution, that he's going to
lose the Congress, and if he loses, he's going to
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immediately in the aftermath of the election do what he
said he might do in twenty twenty, which is use
the military to confiscate the ballot boxes and count the votes,
claiming that there's fraud. Remember, he's called up all fifty
states election data to the Department of Justice because they
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want to review all fifty states for fraud. And they
won't tell you exactly what they're going to do. But
I fear that these are all connected.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So not only is he making people afraid that if
you are a minority, the National Guard is going to
make you disappear, but he's saying it's all because he's
going to impose a dictatorship and take over the ballot
boxes in the next presidential or next midterm election. It
is all horrific fear mongering, and he lies through his teeth.
And one of the really appalling moments was the Ice,
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not the National Guard, but the Ice was there to
round up illegals. Right well, because of this rhetoric that
you're hearing from Pritzker and from the mayor Brandon Johnson,
some people who are not right in the head or
or easily swayable are thinking that they need to fight
back against anybody's who's arresting anybody that includes police, that
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includes ICE, that includes National Guard, and because they're going
to make them disappear, and it's all fake and it's
all Trump taking over as a fascists. As opposed to
these are border patrol agents arresting illegals who most of
them have horrific criminal histories and are out harming people
and that's why they're getting them off the streets. So
what happened in Chicago is the ICE agents were surrounded
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by a group of ten cars and there was a
woman with an automatic weapon trying to shoot them. So
what did they do? They called the police, and what
did the Chicago Police superintendent do with the at the
behest of the governor, they refuse to respond. They refused
to help the ICE officers who were under fire. Now,
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Governor Prisker says, you know, oh no, that never happened.
That is a bold based lie that would never happen
and this is just propaganda by the Department of Homeland
Security cut number five.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
The spokesperson for DHS, Tricia McLaughlin, accused Chicago police of
leaving the scene and refusing to assist agents in securing
the area. What do you know about this incident? We're
federal agents boxed in and assaulted.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Well, we don't have a lot of facts. What happens
in these sorts of incidence is typically Ice puts out
a press release before anybody else can speak with the press,
and then it gets reported on social media and elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, so he said it's propaganda. Didn't happen, Well, as
luck would happen. The thing that the Chicago Police do
is everything is taped, and that includes nine one one calls,
That includes dispatcher communications to the police cars. And guess
what we have. We have the dispatcher, the tape of
the dispatcher telling the police not to go and help
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Ice cut one bee.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And again for the chief of Patrol, we have all
the units that for nine ninety nine, chief of Patrol said,
all units clear out from there. We're not sending anybody
over to that location, right, And nine ninety nine just
took him from a thirty ninth place in Kezzi. They
were saying that they were being surrounded by that large
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crowd and they were requesting the police were not sending
waving off all the cars having the thirty ninth place
in Ketzi again.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Given, Oh my god, does that sound like propaganda to you? So?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
JB.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Pritzker lies like a rug, and he just assumes that
either the people of Chicago and the rest of us,
because he's trying to convince everybody across the country, are
either too stupid to realize that he's lying, or too
lazy to check out if he's two lizing. Either way,
he has a very low opinion of us, and he
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thinks he can just go and lie.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
There's a nine.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
They were told stand down, so they left the ice
officers on their own to deal with a woman with
a freaking machine gun basically and people using cars to
box them in. That's what was happening.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Hey, I thought they had gun laws in Chicago that
made the city safe for how people get in automatic
weapons those I mean, that's that they've.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Been being responding on a petty level to ice and immigration,
but that put people's lives in danger. That was actually
putting people in harm's way what they did right there,
I mean, they've been doing the weird crap. I mean
they stopped this was on one level, funny, I suppose
not if you were in that particular group, but Secretary
Gnome and on an ice patrol, they stopped at a
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federal building, a city building that gets federal funds to
use the restrooms. Okay, guess what happened?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
No goal?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, cut or thirteen.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right, thank you. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
That's why Governor Pritzker says, is cooperation and keeping people safe.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, not using And then she was asked about that
later when she did a TV interview. Cut thirteen A.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So why wouldn't they let you in? What's been going
on here? What's been going on here?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Sectarry, We're coming to go out and do some operations
to pick up some guys with criminal convictions on them,
and the city police wouldn't even let us use a restaurant.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
And you were just blocked by us by a worker
here for the city.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
You're at the.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Beautiful building here, broad work, which would not allow us
to go in and to use the restroom at the
police station. So as much as these local leaders and
governors talk about cooperating and having the backs of our
law enforcement upsters, let's hope we answer whatever every single day. Now,
that was that was just petty crap. You know, not
letting them use the bathroom at the police station. But
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what they did in making the police stand down when
they were being attacked by people after they were riled
up by the governor and the mayor. That's not petty.
That's actually putting people in harm's way. It's also obstruction
of justice. So I am thinking that there might be
criminal charges coming down the road. I don't know if
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for the mayor. I don't know for the governor. I
don't know if there's somebody in between that could take
the fall for them, But I think something bad is
about to happen to somebody after that, because people could
have been killed and it would have been completely at
their doorstep.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And the same and by the way, so if they
did bring charges, which may very well be warranted, there's
still going to be the same half of the people
who are defending the charged. I mean, I don't know
how much this fixes more than I mean to make
us feel good. Right, Hey, this guy committed a crime,
they should charge them. Then they charge them, and all
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of a sudden, oh, you're charging them because you're a
fascist and you're find so I don't I mean, not
that they shouldn't charged. I'm trying to say this in
a way that doesn't sound like they shouldn't charge people
who deserve to be charged. But it's like, what are
you really solving. I mean, this whole, this whole thing
is an attitude problem. Not all of it. There's deeper
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than that, but it really is, you know, this whole
We don't like you, so we're gonna make crap up.
We're going to stop this. But then when you try
to stop us from doing what we're doing, we're going
to make you look like the bad guy because you
try to stop us by charging us or whatever. I mean,
look at look at the camy thing. Yeah you know,
I mean, you can't charge somebody for doing something wrong
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because then they'll start pointing the finger at you that
you're wrong for charging them and you're actually just being
vindictive and why would you do that, and blah blah blah.
It's this whole We are in this really vicious circle
of lunacy.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, lunacy is a good word for it. I like
that word for it. Discourtesy, lunacy just maybe egocentricity, people
just thinking about themselves and not the effect they have.
I don't know what it is, but it is dangerous.
It's one thing when it's just when it's just annoying
or hurtful to somebody on an emotional or mental level.
But we're talking putting people in harms way now physically,
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and that's you know, that's so far over the line
it's not even funny. So we end every week with
a truth or troll. This week is no exception. Okay, well,
you know it's going to be President Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So I was doing like the Karnak thing troll. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So in this case, he's in the Oval Office with
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and who says, thanks so
much for hosting me, and it goes through some of
Donald Trump's achievements and he says, we're going to have
some rellat, big discussions on the most important issue. And
what do you hear? What President Trump thinks the most
important issue is cut number four.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
You kindly hosted me and some of my colleagues a
few months ago, and I said at the time, you
are a transformative president. And since then, the transformation in
the economy, unprecedented commitments of NATO partners to defense, spending,
peace from India Pakistan through to Azerbaijan, Armenia, disabling Iran
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is a force of terror and now and I'm running
out of time, but this is many respects, the most.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Important traded of Canada.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Not like that wasn't where I was going.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So I don't think he's given up on it. He
mentioned earlier this year that Canada make a mighty fine
fifty first date, and I don't think he's given up.
I think, I mean, he does it in a very
jocular way, but do you think he's actually thinking there's
got to be a way to annex Canada?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So you think it's yeah, I do, And first of all, well,
first of all, I just think it is. Second of all,
I always laugh when they say making Canada the fifty
first state. In theory, even if you were going to
annex Canada, they would have to become the fifty first,
fifty second, fifty third, fifty fourth, six. Yeah, so they're
not just going to be the fifty first state anyway,
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which right off the bat makes that a troll. But
I don't know, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, here's the thing. I would have said no
off the top, but when I sit and think about
it for a while, he keeps bringing it up. Is
he continually trolling Canada or in the back of his
mind somewhere is and I understand, you know it's unwilledy
to do it as a single state, But is he
trying to figure a way to cut Canada loose from
Great Britain and bring it under some kind of umbrella
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with the US. I wouldn't be surprised if while he's
making these jokes, somewhere in the back of his envelope
push in mind is how do we cut them loose
from Great Britain?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So instead of the King Charles being the head of
State of Canada, President Trump would be the head of
State of Canada or whoever the president is of the US.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Somehow and bring them in some way, I don't know how.
Like you said, they'd have to be the next ten
states to enter the Union. You know you'd have to
have You'd have Ottawa, you have k Back, you'd have Toronto.
You know where the states are now, the provinces are now,
they would be states.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Listen, listen, you want a good idea if you if
you really want to add on another state or a
series of states using Canada, don't take the whole joint
like the first fifty miles into Canada. You take that
because everything north of there there's a lot of you know,
those little villages and places where you can't do anything
because it's one hundred and fifty below zero in the window.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What they got up there, ski natural resources, Well they
do with that, you know, So I think I think
you'd want those areas.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So leave the first fifty miles and take the rest,
take all of you. I'm just saying that way you
can say we'll not taking the whole country.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I mean, Great Britain is losing things left and right,
so why not Canada?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Seriously, why not just as Canada?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know there, they're all the continent with us. Let's
be part of the We'll figure out a way to
make them happy. I mean, you don't do it against
their will. Obviously there's not going to be troops invading Canada.
It's going to be this is economically for your benefit.
Let's replace the queen with you know, or a king
in this case, with a with membership in Congress.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
What do you say, Well, he wants Greenland too, so
that's you know, that pushes him a little further across
the Atlantic, and then you could take just take great Britain.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Then the globalists were all about Europe being, you know,
encroaching upon others, So why don't we do it the
other way around. We'll do one planet, but it starts
with us. How about that? I mean, so, I'm somewhere
in the back of his head, I think Trump is
thinking there's gotta be a way to cut Canada loose
from graape Britain.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
We already have one of the princes over here, so
we're already They're already part of sailing plant, you know. Yeah,
well that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think you know, how about this, We'll take Canada.
We'll give you back markle and and Prince Harry. You
can have those guys back, and we'll take Canada for you.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
How's that?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I mean, sure, that's a great deal. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm good with them.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I think they'd rather we let them keep Canada and
and we keep the Prince.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So what do you what do you think? Everybody truth
or troll? You can let Ben and I know on
on x at newsby three or on Facebook at news Byte.
We upload a new episode every single Monday, so check
back next week and see what new offerings we have. Meanwhile,
have a great week.
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