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July 14, 2025 • 39 mins
Democrats gin up violence against federal agents and blame President Trump for the floods in Texas, while MAGA attacks the administration for covering up the Epstein files. There is a lot of finger pointing this week in our "did they really just say that cuts".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Democrats gin up violence against federal agents and blame President
Trump for the floods in Texas, while MAGA attacks the
administration for covering up the Epstein files. There's a lot
of finger pointing this week, and are did they really
just say that cuts?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Nancy Shack, I'm Ben Parker.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is Newspipe.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
These these nuts that want to take it beyond protests
into criminal activity. They're getting they're getting rhetoric from the
members of Congress, the senators who compare Ice or the Nazis.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
It's unspeakable. It's just there's no words that you can
have for someone who loses a child. And you know,
we've had our disasters in Texas, and we've had our
times of loss in Texas and major disasters.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
I haven't I just said, are you still talking about
Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years? You're
asking we have Texas, we have this, we have all
of the things, and are people still talking about this guy?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
This creep hereat I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Tell you that the curse, it's the curse of Jeffrey
Epstream Epstein, and it keeps on giving. You know, remember
during the elections that one of the points that people
like FBI Director Cash Pattel, A. G. Pambondi and President
Trump we're making is that they were going to really
find out for once and for all, what happened with

(01:30):
Jeffrey Epstein. Did he commit suicide in the jail? Is
there a client list? Where is it? You know, all
these questions, and everybody's been waiting, in particular MAGA has
been waiting with baited breath to find out the truth.
I think that what they wanted to know is which
Democrats were involved with Jeffrey Epstein. But it turns out, yes,

(01:51):
he committed suicide and there is no client list. And
after all this, the conservative is beside themselves. They will
not refuse. They absolutely positively refuse to believe that either
of those things is true, and now are accusing the
beloved Trump administration of hiding facts. And this came out.

(02:15):
This is Peter Doucey talking to White House Press Secretary
Caroline Lovett about exactly this cut thirty.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
So what happened to the Epstein client list that the
Attorney General said she had on her desk?

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Well, I think if you go back and look at
what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was
on your network on Fox News, Cohan.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Roberts said, doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
Will that really happen? And she said, it's sitting on
my desk right now to review.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yes, she was saying, the entirety of all of the paperwork,
all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to. And I'll
let her speak for that. But again, when it comes
to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are
more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
behind bars. They have an operation going on right now
called Summer Heats, which has our murder rate trending in

(03:05):
the lowest direction in United States history. Their emphasis on
violent crime, in locking up violent criminals has led to
the arrest of fourteen thousand violent criminals. That's a sixty
two percent increase from the same time period last year.
So this Attorney General and the FBI director are committed
to putting bad people behind bars where they belong.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So that's what I would call a distraction. She answered
the questions sort of and then switched over to the topic. Now,
just to be fair, I have the cut that Peter
Deucey was talking about the clip from Pam Bondy. It's
in February of this past year on Fox. I think
she was with John Roberts and this is the question

(03:47):
and the answer that she gave. Cut thirty two.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Well, that really happen.

Speaker 9 (03:55):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing
JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of
being reviewed because that was done at the directive of
the President from all of these agencies.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, I'll be honest with you, it sounds to me
like she's talking about files, not about a list. I
agree with Caroline Levitt's description of what she was saying.
It sounded to me like she was saying, I've got
that on my desk when she's got the Epstein fellow
but all these stuff on her desk. But a lot
of people are saying, uh uh uh uh, that's that
is a feint. She is our red herring. She's not

(04:32):
saying that, so the question out there is there a
client list? Is there not a client list?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, the only and the reason that I would agree
with what you said she answered the question, which was
about the client list with it. It's sitting on my
desk right now, which, if you take that at face value,
you say, well, she's talking about the client list. But
then when she went further, she said, and I've got
the JFK files, and I got so it sounds like
she had the files of all these different cases. But

(04:59):
how she answered the question is what kind of leaves
it ambiguous as to was she talking about the files
or talking about the client list itself.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now, reasonable people can disagree. What would have absolutely different
on what and how she answered that question?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
What would America be without a nice conspiracy? Yeah, we've
I mean, and you talk about the conspiracies, I mean
she so she mentions, of course, the client that JFK. Yeah,
the whole they're all they're all right there. So look,
nobody's ever going to be happy with whatever comes out

(05:35):
about JFK's killing. No one's ever going to be totally
happy about what comes out with the Jeffrey Epstein situation.
Here's my here's my thoughts on it, have no proof,
have known nothing. I think one well, Jeffrey Epstein was
not a great guy. I think he did kill himself
because frankly, in the situation he was in, why not.

(05:56):
But I will say this client list there probably is
one I agree do the well does the government have it?
Does it have it as it's an entirety or did
they look at it and go, shoot, we can't real Is.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
This what happened to it? This is Congressman James Comer
on the Betty Johnson Show saying they don't have everything
because something happened to it. Cut thirty one.

Speaker 10 (06:20):
The Epstein files. Obviously, that's like finding a unicorn in Washington,
d C. You have come on and talked about that
on this program, just in the sake for the sake
of transparency, which is very big for you. And so
you know in closing any motion on that, any movement
on that, we hear that there's a timeline.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now.

Speaker 11 (06:40):
I hope, I hope James has the Epstein files, because
I don't think the Department Justice has them, or at
least the Attorney General does not have them, or she
would have turned him over the President ordered them release
the Attorney General ordered them released. We all know they
have not been released. And one of my biggest spears

(07:00):
that I had, and I expressed this with with Crash,
Patail and a lot of people, Stephen Miller and a
lot of people going into the to the new administration,
I'm like, you know, I hope they're not shred and
document truck. Now this was a few weeks before the transition.
I said, I hope they're not shred in document.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
So there's that option that it did exist, which I
agree with you. How can it not have existed but
doesn't exist anymore because before the Trump team came in,
certain documents disappeared. I think that's absolutely positively possitible.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's still it's I mean, it still could exist. Somebody
could have hidden it or done something else with it.
And here's the thing, depending on what side of the
conspiracy aisle you sit on, right it maybe it never existed,
Maybe it existed and got destroyed. Maybe it exists and
still exists, and somebody looked at it and said we
can't release this. Well, because look there's certainly if there's

(07:54):
a list, there's a lot of people on it. And
politics is really not part of it. I guarantee you
if there's a list, wherever that list is or was,
there's people from both sides of the aisle on it,
probably men and women, probably high ranking people, and nobody's
you know. So I think that if if, if you're

(08:14):
a conspiracy theorist about all this, and depending where you
stand on the spectrum of the conspiracy, you could say, well,
the Republicans took a look at the list and saw
so and so and so and so and said at
least in this Democrats might say the same thing. So I, look,
is it was there a list? Probably? Is there still

(08:34):
a list? Probably?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Could?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I disagree in that? Probably I don't think it exists anymore. Well,
I think they. I think they got to it before
the Trump administration came in.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
There's well but there's a lot of places you could
hide it. So I I why why hide it?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Not destroy it? Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, you know, if you want to hold leverage on
someone somewhere down the road, having it to use in
a it necessary wouldn't be a bad idea. So maybe
some maybe somebody made copies and then shredded the original.
So look, that's the good thing, A good thing, good thing,

(09:12):
bad thing, whatever. About conspiracy theories, is every road I
take you down forks Off in forty three directions.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, so, especially with a good conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know, again there is a truth somewhere. There's a truth.
We may never know it. Somewhere, there's a truth. I
think the list still exists somewhere. I think it's hidden
somewhere safe. Maybe it's hidden somewhere safe by someone very
powerful who's like, if I never need to use this,
so I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
But unfortunately for the Attorney General for Pam Bondi, it
wasn't just the fact that she gave an ambiguous statement
as to a list existing and then said there wasn't one.
There's also an issue about a video that was from
the jail where Jeffrey Epstein died, and they released the video,
the surveillance video, and there is a minute missing from that,

(10:00):
and so the conspiracy theorists, of course, well that's the
minute where somebody went in and off to Jeffrey Epstein.
So at the same point she's telling everybod there's no list,
she also has to respond to why is there a
minute missing in the Epstein video? And this was her
response during the Cabinet meeting this week cut ten a.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned
out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Childborn is what they were never going to be released,
never going to see the light of day to him
being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We
can get back to you on that. And the minute
missing from the video.

Speaker 12 (10:41):
We released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive,
but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
And what was on that there was a minute that
was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau
of Prison was every year, every night they redo that
video as old from like nineteen ninety nine, So every
night the video is reset and every night should have
the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video
to release that as well, showing that a minute is

(11:15):
missing every night. And that's it on Epstein.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So it's not just that video, it's all their videos
missing the same minute. And so if that's true, if
they can show that, then that's believable. But the conspiracy
theorists aren't buying it. They don't want there to be
a rational explanation. They want the conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Stay with me here, because again, the conspiracies, no matter
what road you take, can be forked off into various directions.
All right, I'm going to give you this now, I'm
conspiracy theoristing here. But so there's a minute missing, same
time every night. That's what she said. So if you're thinking, hmm,
somebody must have known the same minute would be missing

(11:57):
every night. Therefore, if I'm going to go in and
do something nasty to Epstein, I have one minute in
this window every night to do it. So the conspiracy
theorists might say, yeah, there's a minute missing every night,
and the people who did this knew that, and use
that minute to kill Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
There you go, I mean, easy enough. And this is
that that reasoning right there is which is brilliant reasoning.
I might add, which is brilliant reasoning and shows that
you would make any killer conspiracy guy, is that MAGA
will not let go of this. They will not let
go of this. And even during the cabinet meeting this week,

(12:37):
with all this stuff going on, they still bring up Epstein.
And President Trump has had freaking enough cut nine.

Speaker 13 (12:45):
Jeffrey Epstein left some lingering mysteries of One of the
biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American
or foreign intelligence agency. The former Labor Secretary, who is
Miami US attorney Alex Costa, allegedly said that he did
work for intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or
not he did and also could you see why there

(13:06):
was a minute missing from the jail house team on
the data side?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Sure, just interested? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years? You're asking we
have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things,
and are people still talking about this guy? This creep
that is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And do you feel like answering?

Speaker 9 (13:30):
I don't mind answering.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
I mean I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So is he trying to help his ag is she
trying to help him? Or does he really just not?
Let's just move on because everything is that we don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's good conspiracy there is. I'm going to walk the
fence here because why not agree with him? Right, There's
a lot of stuff going on in the world, I
mean between Texas and obviously the good things as he
mentioned that are going on, the bad things, the wars
in the world. There's a lot of stuff going on
that is way more important than Jeffrey Epstein. But yeah,

(14:14):
but I was waiting, right, don't don't just let stuff
go because there's other stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
So he didn't handle that correctly. Well, I think he
was a little bit dismissive there, and and what he
did with that response is really really piss off his magabase,
really pissed them off. So now he has the right
mad at him, and we're not even talking about the
left who are trying to destroy him and at a

(14:44):
moment are blaming him for the flash floods and texts.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Do you want all? Right? First of all, I got it.
I gotta interject here because we've had this discussion before
ad nauseum about the left and how terrible they've handled
the election and the fallout and everything else in the
country's them and blah blah blah, it. Listen, free advice,
take it or not. I don't care with the with
the right and the Maga bass kind of not thrilled

(15:10):
with the Trump administration right now. If you're on the left,
if you're a dim and you want to Donald Trump
to fall off a cliff, just sit there with your
feet up and watch TV. Because because here's the thing.
If you open your yappers, you basically are playing into
the hand of the people who who don't like you

(15:32):
and would like you to say something stupid. Because unfortunately,
at this point in time or fortunately, depending on where
you land, every time somebody from the left opens their mouth,
they stick their foot halfway down their throat. So just
shut up and sit there and let the thing implode
if it's going to and and wait and when it does,

(15:54):
laugh when it doesn't. Okay, now you've got to do something.
I don't know why the why left insists on trying
to keep talking. Shut up, you're winning the game. Just
shut up at least right now. Look, I'm not trying
to I'm not trying to help the left really, but
it just it makes me, well.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, here's the problem I think with that. I appreciate
what you're saying, and I think if they were smart,
they would take your advice. But they're not rational when
it comes to Donald Trump. There's a there's a mental
illness that that takes over people no matter what he does.
He could, you know, he could school. He could have
reached down in the raging Texas flood with his hand

(16:36):
and pulled up three babies and save them, and they
would criticize how he was holding them. They don't care
what he does. He's he is culpable for anything bad.
And you stub they they cannot see straight. They hate
him so much. Well, that was really demonstrated this past
week after these horrific flash floods in Texas where you know,

(16:59):
over one hundred people have died. A little girl's Christian
camp was washed away in a mirror of something that
happened in nineteen eighty seven where a lot of kids
from a Christian camp were also killed.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Same camp, the same camp.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
All these things happened. And the horrible thing is that
what do the Democrats do big amount and try to
make it sound as if Donald Trump's cuts budget cuts
are the reason why these people died. I kid you not.
This is George Stephanopolis on ABC saying the National Weather

(17:31):
Service offices were significantly understaffed in Texas. Pet Before I
play it, I want you to understand one thing. It
is a bold faced.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Line the office themselves said they had over the.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
National Weather said exactly, not only were they not understaffed,
they had more people than they needed because they knew
there could be trouble, so they had everybody and their
brother there. There was no but that does not stop
George Stefanopolis cut twenty two area.

Speaker 14 (17:58):
We're also learning that there were significance daffing shortfalls the
National Weather Services offices in the region.

Speaker 15 (18:06):
You know, George. As of right now, the local county
officials really didn't want to address that just yet. What
they are telling us is they expected between four and
six inches of rain. That is what weather experts told them,
the National Weather Service as well. They also knew that
in remote locations they might get anywhere from eight to
ten inches. But this amount of rain in such a
short amount of time, it was very difficult to navigate.

(18:29):
And when the Department of Homeland Security secretary was here
just yesterday, she acknowledged this was an issue. She was
going to take these concerns to the White House as
well and try and see if there was anything they
could do to revamp the system. She says, the President
is committed to it.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Rayah, thanks very much.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, they're nowhere address it because it wasn't asked of
them because it didn't exist. He freaking both faced lighted.
And then you have really idiots like Rosie O'Donnell, who's
moved to Ireland because in a protest. I can't tell
you how much I want to say good riddance to
bad rubbish to her over Trump, and I hope that
she stays there for the rest of her natural life.

(19:07):
Again blaming Trump for the floods Cut twenty five, What.

Speaker 16 (19:11):
A horror story in Texas, the flash floods in Texas,
the Guadalupe River, fifty one missing, fifty one dead, more
missing children at a camp. And you know, when the
president guts all of the early warning systems and the
weathering forecast abilities of the government, these are the results
that we're going to start to see on a daily

(19:32):
basis because he's put this country in so much danger
by his horrible, horrible decisions and this ridiculously immoral bill
that he just signed into law as Republicans cheered. As
Republicans cheered, people will die as a result, and they've
started already. Shame on him, Shame on every GOP Sinka
fan who's listening and following the disastrous decisions of this

(19:55):
mentally incapacitated Bodus hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Shame on her, every last winger who's believing this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Shame on her for using dead children to make a
political point based on a lie. It's not even to
use them to begin with as bad, but to use
them based on a lie. There was nothing that Donald
Trump cut had any effect on what happened in Texas.
It didn't affect anything whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And by the way, before let's let's point out a
couple of things. First of all, before this bill was signed,
before Donald Trump was president, hell, before Joe Biden was president,
people died in natural disasters and tragedies. Unfortunately, this happens now.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
There's a freaking flash flood, and it happened, as you
pointed out, caught flash flood nineteen eighty seven at.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
The same camp, at the same camp. Yeah, so this
is not something new, like oh my god. But here's
here's a couple of other things. One call me old fashion.
And look, I don't have any say in this except
my opinion. But when you up and move out of
the country because you hate the or you hate the people,
or you hate the leaders or whatever you left for.

(21:03):
Maybe maybe you just don't like the fast food anymore,
I don't know. But when you leave the country and
then you think you can just sit in some other
country and lay opinions and and and and.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Start and calumnies.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, sorry, Rosie, listen, I'm not saying you gave up
your right speech because you have the right good to
do whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
But you you have no credibility.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
You're right you left the I'm leaving this country because
I hate it and now you're gonna be judging jury
of the crap that goes on over here. Please enough,
I don't I don't need to hear from her. I,
as you know, was caught in a flash flood a
couple of years. Yes, you had to get restue.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I did, and God bless the police, right, the police
in the fire department who you know, basically swam to
me and got me out. But I have to say
it happens in the blink of an eye. Literally, I
mean you. You know, it's called the flash flood for
a reason. Flash, but until you see it, you don't.
It's like the first time you see a whale. You
know that whales are big, but when you first when

(22:01):
the first time you actually see when you're like, oh
my god, it's something that your mind didn't really wrap
itself a runtil you actually see it. The same was
true for a flash flood. I was on a road,
there was a car in front of me. Car in
front of me was going just fine. I was in
an suv that was a four door sedan. In the
space of five to ten seconds, the water, like a
freaking wave, took over my car, shorted it out and

(22:24):
it was floating and the water started pouring into my car.
That literally happened in the space of five to ten seconds.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Let's real quick. I get two quick things here. One
because of what you just said, so flash flood. In
this particular case, I had seen or heard that the
Guadalupe River rose twenty six feet in forty five minutes.
And you may say forty five minutes, go stand in
your bathtub. That's about two feet a minute, right, So
go stand in your bathtub for two minutes and let

(22:52):
the water run till it's at four feet. First of all,
I'll probably overflow your bathtub. And just imagine that this
whole river was a minute at there that thank you.
This is what also is the problem or unfortunately perfect
storm kind of situation, which you know, sadly happened. So
they did issue warnings. They had said that there was

(23:13):
going to be all this rain and all this, and
then that it did rain, and then they issued some
flush flood warnings, and they were at one o'clock, two o'clock,
three o'clock in the morning. And unfortunately, and we've seen
this before with tornadoes. Look a lot of times when
people are asleep, they're not hearing warnings, even if it's
coming on their phone or even if it's coming from
somewhere else. And even if you hear it, you're half asleep.

(23:34):
You gotta get up. This was a bad timing, It
really was.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Do you know what one of the questions I heard
asked in the in the White House press conference when
they were talking about the flood, I couldn't believe my ears.
This one reporter I don't even remember who it was, said, well,
why were they sending out warnings? At two o'clock in
the morning when people were a sleeping because that's when
the flood was. You know, I couldn't believe. And if
they hadn't sent the warnings out, why didn't you send

(23:58):
the warnings out? Because they could have welcomed. I mean,
it didn't matter. They were just looking to pick a fight.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Basically, you have just like with every whether it's a storm,
whether it's a hurricane, a tornado, whatever it is. Right,
you have watches, which means this could happen. It hasn't
happened yet, but it could happen. Then you have warnings,
which means this is happening.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Dudes, No, there's a possibility. This was possibility, that probability.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Third one, warning means it's happening a warning. So when
it happened, they sent out the warnings. Okay, well listen,
it's two o'clock in the morning, there's a flood going on.
Let's send the warnings out later. Or maybe we should
have sent out warnings three days ago. No, that's not
how it works. You have watches, you have advisories, you
have well, you have an advisory, then you have watches,
then you have warnings. But listen, I know everybody doesn't

(24:44):
pay attention to everything as much as perhaps you when
I do. But we see it all the time, especially
during hurricane season. Right, you have hurricane advisories, you have watches,
and then you have warnings, and there are different ones too, hurricane,
high sea, tropical storm whatever. In this case, flood, Right,
so you have flood watches when we're gonna get we
think we're gonna get a lot of rain, and you're
there could be a flood, and then when there's a flood,

(25:07):
it turns into a warning. Now, when that flood turned
into a flood, it just so happened to be overnight.
They issued the warnings, it was over and again, look,
it was bad timing for starters, which doesn't offer any
solace to the people who died and not. I mean,
it's terrible, we're covering it, we know it. But that
was part of the problem. If it had happened to

(25:27):
three in the afternoon, it might have been better. And
it might have been better for two reasons, because people
would have seen the water rising before they even got
a warning. So there's a lot of moving parts here
that really really really sucked.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, without a doubt, but the most disturbing thing to
me bound is the fact that you know, you have
the liberal media in this particular case and in other
cases using or hating Donald Trump so much, hating anybody
who disagrees with them so much that they they use
their disagreements and turn it into vitriolic hatred and in

(26:04):
some cases turn it into violence. It's not just about
disagreement or criticizing, they're actually turning it into violence. And
I mean, we've heard this for years. Let's just make
sure we've heard this for years. During the Biden administration,
they were particularly nasty regarding anybody who was against them, Conservatives, Republicans,

(26:25):
even middle of the road people if they didn't agree.
And you had Biden and Kamala calling GOP fascists and
the threat to democracy, you know, building up the enemy
as or building up opposition as enemy and people that
you need to be afraid of and have to take
violent action against. And I have examples. This is Biden
and Kamala during the Biden administration Cut twenty six.

Speaker 17 (26:49):
Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represented extremism that threatens
the very foundations of our republic. The Republican Party today
is dominated driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the
Margran Republicans, and that is a threat to this country.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?

Speaker 18 (27:09):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I do, Yes, I do. So Republicans are a threat
to the country. Then here's a montage. This is mainstream
media and Congressman Elon Omar is thrown in for good measure,
fear mongering, specifically about ICE and Republicans cut twenty six B.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Mask agents of the state in unmarked vehicles are terrorizing communities.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
They are disappearing people. That's the stuff of authoritarian states,
the combination of these gestapo like tactics.

Speaker 9 (27:41):
This is actually about Donald Trump building modern day concentration
camps in an effort to disappear people from our communities.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I like to disappear your lives. I mean, oh my god.
And then here's Congressman Hi King Jeffries. He's on ABC
saying that ICE is targeting law abiding immigrants. So even
if you're not, if you're here legally, you need to
be afraid to cut twenty A.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Democrats, amid the criticisms of ICE right now to do
these ICE raids, have started calling for defunding ICE.

Speaker 18 (28:15):
Do you think that's effective?

Speaker 15 (28:16):
Going into the midterms and do support those calls.

Speaker 18 (28:19):
Well, I definitely think that we need aggressive oversight as
it relates to the overly aggressive behavior that we've seen,
you know, from Ice, from the Department of Homeland Security.
It's not what the American people actually, in my view,
voted for Donald Trump and Republicans promised to go after
violent felons, but instead they're going after law abiding immigrant

(28:43):
families and in fact, in some cases deporting American citizens
and children, some with cancer. And America is better than this,
and that's the reality in terms of what House Democrats
stand for.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
We believe that in this country, you work.

Speaker 18 (29:00):
Hard and you play by the rules, you should be
able to experience the American dream. You should be able
to afford to live the good life.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Now, the administration is not deporting children with cancer, you know,
that's not what's happening here. So, I mean, it's completely
fear mongering and making people feel that if they see
federal agents that they're coming for them, are they're going
to hurt them, and so they respond in a violent manner.
And as a matter of fact, in McCallan, Texas, a

(29:31):
border patrol had to exchange gunfire with somebody who was
attacking them at an ICE facility Cut twenty five A.

Speaker 19 (29:37):
Border Patrol agents return fire and subsequently neutralize, that is,
killed the person that had opened fire upon that building.
There were many, many, many dozens of rounds fired from
by the suspect towards the building and towards agents in
that building.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
The person that attacked the ice facility was doing so
under a misapprehension they had been lied to Cut eighteen A.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
Here is the statement for the Department of Homeland Security
on what happened to McCallen earlier today this morning, an
individual open fire at the entrance of the United States
Border Patrol Sector Annex in McCallen, Texas. Both Border Patrol
agents and local police helped neutralize the shooter. It's an
ongoing investigation led by the FBI. More information will be
shared as it becomes available. It's a shocking incident, to

(30:23):
be sure, but is it surprising given everything that's been
going on with protests against ice and Border patrol.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
So it's not.

Speaker 14 (30:30):
And as you reported earlier, we've seen our assaults go
up dramatically, and you know, these Bortatrol agents are out
there doing their job. They're enforcing the law. They're protecting
the communities. We've got Border Patrol agents on the river
right now in the Guadalupe assisting with the rescue efforts.
These agents are outstanding Americans. They're just trying to enforce
the law. But all of the rhetoric and the false

(30:50):
information that's been put out by the left is just
increasing violence against our agents and it's just unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
That was Mike Banks, he's the US Border Patrol chief.
But you know Tom Homan didn't just say the left.
Tom Holman said it's the idiots in Congress Cut fourteen A.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
There's a wall plan attack and is because of the
rhetoric these nuts that want to take it beyond protests
into criminal activity they're getting. They're getting rhetoric from the
members of Congress, the senators who compare Ice the Nazis,
and Congressman J. Paul compared to the terrorist organizations. So
these people, these fringe groups feel emboldened. If a member

(31:30):
of the Congress can attack Dice, why can't we. So
in response to this ICE facilities, the security protocol has
been heightened to the highest levels along with borbitual facilities,
and we're going but well, here's what they need to understand.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
We're not going to stop.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Enforcing immigration law. President Trump made a promise to the
American people to secure the board who had the most
secure boarding the history of the nation.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Today, now we got a.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Lot of illegal alien criminal, public safety threats, national security
threats we need to find and remove. This's not going
to slow us down.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
We're going to do this job.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay. So but this is what this is what that dyspory.
It's not harmless. Going out there and vilifying your opponent
is not harmless. This is what it leads to. People
are trying to kill federal officers because they have been
told by members elected officials who should know better that
they have to fear these people and that you know,

(32:22):
you have to fight to the death. Basically, violence is okay,
that's what they've been told. And so this I lates
squarely at the feet of those members of Congress who've
been ginning up hatred like that.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Here here's part of the problem. I mean, everything's part
because there's no one size fits all answered of the
nonsense we're dealing with of late. So look, I understand
that you don't agree with your political opponent, you don't
necessarily agree with even I, right, I mean, look, I
don't agree with everything someone I voted for. Does you

(32:55):
know that? Oh boy, I wish they did this differently?
Blah blah blah. But when you come out and you basely,
you basically throw the baby out with the bath water
and say there's I've got to stop them and not Look,
I'd rather see politicians use their brains. The brains. Look,
they don't agree with everything, right, And even even Hakeem Jefferys, right,
he said, well, the president said he was going to

(33:16):
get rid of a legal criminals, but he's getting rid
of everybody, even people with cancer whatever. So but so
as a as a as an opposition lawmaker, right, someone
who's on the opposing side of the sitting president. Whatever,
try this, try see if you can see if you
can do this. You come out, you say, listen, the
president's doing this, this, this, and this this. We don't

(33:37):
agree with all of it. We think that it could
be done better. We've come up with some solutions that
will fix uh, you know this, so that we're not
targeting people who don't necessarily have to be to put whatever.
The answer is, right, But why do you have to
come out, take the baby, throw it out with the bathwater,
and say ha ha, we hate to all of you.
Screw you come out with a solution like I don't

(33:58):
like the fact that they cut taxes on this, so
we're going to see if we can't do this. No,
nobody does that anymore. They just come out and they
start firing all cylinders, machine guns blaring. They don't give
a flying rats asked about anything except themselves and how
good they'll look on the evening news. Stop it, okay,
Oh sorry, I got excited.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
We end every week with the truth control and this
week we have yet again President Trump. I really enjoyed
this one. It was during the cabinet meeting in this
past week and he well, you decide, is he telling
the truth? Is this something he wants to do or
is he trolling The mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser cut three.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
We have tremendous power at the White House to run
places when we have to. We could run DC. I mean,
we're looking at DC. We don't want crime in DC.
We want the city to run well. Susie Wills is
working very closely with the mayor and they're doing all right.
I mean in the sense that we would we would
run it so good, it would be run so proper,

(35:03):
we'd get that best person to run it, or we
run who the crime would be down to a minimal
would be much less. And you know, we're thinking about
doing it. To be honest with you, we want to
We want a capital that's run flawlessly, and it wouldn't
be hard for us to do it.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
What do you think is he really serious about federalizing Washington,
d c. And let's take over the local government. It
used to be run by a US Senate committee and
then it got mayors, a lot of whom were criminal,
and it is not a particularly well run city and
so and of course Muriel Bowser is the mayor who
refused to bring the National Guard in on January sixth.

(35:41):
So is he telling the truth? Does he want to
federalize you see? Or is he just poking the mayor?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think he's definitely thinking about it. I mean, you know,
whether in his heart of hearts he'd actually really, really
really want to federalize it, I don't know, but I
think he's darn well close to thinking about it. Thinking, Yeah,
I think he's serious that he'd like to do it. Look,
here's here's the thing that I always found when I
was young. Right, you know, you think of Washington, d c.

(36:06):
And when you're in school, they teach you about Washington. Right,
it's the it's the it's the capital of the country.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
See, I didn't know this because I lived there. This
is where I grew up.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's the capital of the country. And of course you've
got the mall, and you've got the monuments, and you
got the Smithsonian, and you got all this stuff. And
in your head as a kid, you think, wow, that's
that's a nice little thing going on. There, nice little
city going on there where they're running the country. Whether
it's it's it's a it's a it's it's almost like
the city is a monument in and of itself. And
then you grow up and you go there or you

(36:34):
look at things and you're like, well, there's this part,
and then the rest of the city is just not.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, there's a there's a you know, a five mile
across area in the beginning in the center of the
city where the monuments are, which is quite beautiful, and
it's on the edge of the Potomac, and it's all
it's very beautiful, and I lived in Northwest Washington, which
is encompassed in that area. But you know, we didn't
leave Northwest Washington. I mean we didn't go We didn't
go anywhere else. I think the only other place I

(37:01):
went to for a long time was the RFK Stadium,
and that was in a not good section. But that's
the only reason why I would go into that section.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
The fantasy of the of the beautiful capital with all
the beautiful things and the exists is there. Yeah, And
then you step two feet outside of that and it
starts not nice. Interurior rate very Morgan.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Is not so nice, Southeast is not so nice.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know, you can do You almost feel and this
is probably a conversation for another day, but you almost
feel like, Okay, that five mile rate right that the
mall and all that area and the place where people
go to take pictures and see the tourist stuff. You
almost feel like that. And then the rest of DC
should be two cities. Here, here's the monument to American whatever,

(37:45):
and here's the city. And it almost feels like that's
the way it could be or should be. Because of
the way it is now, how do you fix that?
I don't know. Look, there's a lot of Americans.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well Trump says federalized.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, but then yeah, but then the problem I have
with that, and I think he I'm gonna, i'ming to
hold to my my statement is, Look, there's a lot
of cities in New York City, right, Let's just take
New York City for example. There's there's the there's the
parts of New York where the Empire State Building and
all this and the blah blah blah blah blah Wall Street.
It did nice. People go take pictures, see it looks good.
Look at the Statute of Liberty is nice. But then

(38:17):
you go out into some of the neighborhoods and stuff
gets a little sketchy. I don't know if i'd want
the federal government taking over that because of that, I
don't know if Boston has some issues with Every big
city has its issues. So the problem i'd almost if
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Can we not go down into a rabbit hole geralization.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
No, I just want I just want to edit my
comment of tiny bit federalize the monumental areas of Washington,
d C. And leave the rest to okay cities. That's
not the question I know. The question is my own questions.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
The question is, of course, with Donald Trumps, yes says
yes serious. Let us know what you think. You can
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by we upload a new episode every single Monday, so
please check back next Monday and see what new offerings
we have. Meanwhile, have a good week pondering whether DC

(39:07):
should be federalized or not. I'm Nancy Shack and.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Listen for my new podcast, Ben talks about whatever the
hell he wants to talk about. I'm Ben Parker.

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