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December 2, 2024 • 27 mins
Jack Smith Drops the insurrection case against President-elect Trump, but the media can't let it go, some democrats try to face election reality, and President Biden gives a turkey of a pardon. The holidays are a little brighter for some of us than others as you will hear in this week's "did they really just say that" moments.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jack Smith drops the insurrection case against President elect Tromp,
but the media can't let it go. Some Democrats try
to face election reality, and President Biden gives a turkey
of a pardon. The holidays are a little brighter for
some of us than others, as you'll hear in this
week's did they really just say that moment?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm Nancy Shack, I'm Ben Parker.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
This is news by.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
If you look at the language that the Special Council
used and that the judge uses in uh in deciding
this without prejudice, means that when Donald Trump is no
longer president of the United States, these cases could be revised.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
We're gonna wait and see because we can't do anything
else except.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm not gonna wait and see.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
I mean this guy is doing.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
There's nothing to be done until you know what you're fighting.
It's it's gusten and where it doesn't help.

Speaker 7 (01:02):
Tachot and cross country skis, you know, dreams to see,
but the real dream he has seen the northern lights.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
I'm told Wow, we started the show with Bidenism.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Normally we ended with Bidenism, but.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Why not There's so many to choose from.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
But but this week we're starting with a bidenism. That
was President Biden pardoning turkey. There's two turkeys, peaches and
cream this year.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Are their names?

Speaker 6 (01:34):
No, Peaches and blossom, isn't it peach blossom?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Peaches and blossom.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
That was my They always have something that goes together,
peach blossoms. They had peanut butter and jelly one year.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
So this was the president, and the President struck fear
into many people's hearts. He couldn't even get through a
turkey pardon. Honest to god, he couldn't read the teleprompter
he had. Well, let's just play it. Cut number one.

Speaker 7 (01:54):
According to experts, peach weighs forty, love hot dish and
tater shots and cross country skis, you know, dreams to see.
But the real dream he has seen the northern lights.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Time told little boy, Wow, a little confused. He wasn't done.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It looks like a jigsaw puzzle of words, is what
it is.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Well more than that, he lost track of when Thanksgiving was.
He thought it was, you know, Monday. Cut one A.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
We're also keeping our hearts those who have lost so much,
who will have an empty seat at the Thanksgiving dinner
table tonight or excuse me, Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, you know, it's always been Thursday.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I just wanted to thought i'd pointed out since it
started in the eighteen hundreds. But and we got distracted
a little bit by gobbling turkeys one sea.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
They stayed calm, they gobbled on I'm still gobbling. They
were they were they first stayed nice, listening to their
favorite music.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Unfortunately, by the way, we're done with the State of
the Unions from Joe Biden. Wouldn't it be great to
have a couple of turkeys just right behind him.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
That would be funny.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
He used to have Nancy.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I would I would pay for that.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
That would be that was.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
It was a tough Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
By the way, I don't care who the president is,
even when Trump gives it. Just put put animals behind him.
Just put animals behind the president.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And they tried that with a squirrel and then they
killed it. So it's just you know, so we try
not to put too many animals out there.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
The Living Nativity State of the Union speech fun You
don't give kids a reason to watch. I mean every
you know, people would want to tune in see if
the donkey takes a dump.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I have I have a story living to the
acrop have, but I have to share this story. So
it's about the turkeys and Thanksgiving. My dad, way back
when was one of the was was one of the
campaign guys for Bobby Kennedy when he was running for
president in the sixties before my time. But my dad
did this and he told me all about it, and
with a state that one of he was an advancement

(04:07):
and one of the states that he was in charge
of was South Dakota. So one of the things that
South Dakota, I think it was rapid that does it,
or maybe it was two false. One of the towns
in South Dakota.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
What do they used to do?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
They was run. They would run turkeys down the street
and you could go catch turkey.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
You had to catch it.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You could, you had to catch it. They were living
turkeys and you couldn't shoot anything. You had to catch it.
And so but in anticipation of this, Bobby Kennedy was
doing campaign stop and they wanted Bobby Kennedy to get
up and start the turkey run by holding a turkey.
And my dad was concerned as the advancedman, that this
could go awry, that you know, a live turkey. Effectively,

(04:47):
have one looks like peaches there. Forty one pounds is
going to be a problem. And the Kennedy's had a
particular saying that was that stood out and that was
never put on a funny hat. You know, never put
never put yourself a position where you're going to have
a stupid picture taken. Yeah, John Kerry, you know the
sperm suits, so I mean, there's all sorts of you know.

(05:07):
So my dad was concerned about a live turkey, so
he suggested to the town fuzz that can we tranquilize
the turkey because you know, just so it doesn't act
up and gave a funny picture. So they did, but
it's not something that they normally do, so they didn't
quite know what to do with it. They overtranquilized the turkey,
and while Bobby Kennedy is standing there holding the turkey,
it died and he's trying really hard not to let

(05:30):
people know that this turkey had just died. And my
father is horrified, first of all, because he's killed a turkey.
He didn't want to kill a turkey, you know. And secondly,
Bobby Kennedy is standing there with a dead turkey that
was alive a few minutes ago. Yeah, so he just
so my dad was just quickly grabbing the turkey after
the photo they were trying to make it look like

(05:51):
it was still alive and then getting it out of
there as fast as possible. And to this day, as
far as I know, nobody knows that except.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Till now they do.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Now that's that that the turkey died on the south
on the on the Thanksgiving you know, during this is
the year before the election.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Obviously, did nobody think to just just bring ted Kennedy
over with some booze and they could have sat there
and drank till the turkey.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
This was in nineteen sixty eight or sixty seven actually
would have been the year before the election. So uh no, no,
they did not. Teddy was in a high school or something.
Teddy was a young a youngster at the time. So
but anyway, whenever I whenever I hear see live turkeys
and any kind of photo op, I just flashed on

(06:33):
that story that my dad told me that you know, disaster,
this close to disaster, but they survived.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, the turkey didn't, but everybody else, but everybody else did.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
But this this is a tough Thanksgiving for a lot
of Democrats, and including Resident Biden, who is easily distracted
by shiny objects and gobbling turkeys, and it's it's been
a very difficult election season for them, and they are
holding a grudge. They are pretty pissy, and they are

(07:04):
very angry, and they have been preaching divisiveness for the
past year and they're not going to let it go
in time for Thanksgiving, and so they were giving This
is on MSNBC. Juy Reid brought on this woman theoretically
quote a doctor to tell people how to deal with

(07:25):
family members who may have voted for Trump and how
this is just a very difficult time for everybody, and
what else you can do besides be kind to your family,
which apparently is not on the menu, and not talk politics,
which apparently is also not on the menu. Cut twenty

(07:45):
five A.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
How do you interact with people who you know voted
for this right if you are an LGBTQ person and
you know someone in your family voted essentially against your rights,
or you're a woman knowing that you know this man
was calling people the B word. Jd Vance was literally
and Kamala Harris the trash and said we're going to
take out the trash. I know a lot of black
women were incredibly triggered by that. And if you then

(08:07):
meet somebody and you know they voted for the people
who called you trash, or if you're Puerto Rican, you know,
and you know someone voted that way, do you recommend,
just from a psychological standpoint, being around them? We got
the holidays coming up.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean, can you imagine that that's a question for
joy Read? If five joy Reads in my family, no,
I don't want to be around her. But but oh
my god. So, but this is this is doctor Calhoun.
She's she's a Yale School psychiatrist, Amanda Calhoun, and she
gives the following advice. And I want to preface this
by telling everybody found out about after she her appearance
on MSNBC that doctor Calhoun is actually just a student.

(08:44):
She's not a practicing psychiatrist. She has never actually treated
anybody on her own without another psychiatrist being there. But
this is the advice that she gives the public. Cut
twenty five B.

Speaker 9 (08:56):
So I love that you asked this question, because you
know there is a push I think, just a societal
norm that if somebody is your family that they are
entitled to your time, And I think the answer is
absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So.

Speaker 9 (09:10):
If you are going in to a situation where you
have family members, where you have close friends who you
know have voted in ways that are against you, like
what you said, against your livelihood, and it's completely fine
to not be around those people and to tell them why,
you know, to say I have a problem with the
way that you voted because it went against my very livelihood,

(09:34):
and I'm not going to be around you this holiday.
I need to take some space for me.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh my god. And yet they these are the people
that said that Donald Trump was the one preaching divisiveness.
This is they're telling you to disown family members over
the holidays if they didn't vote the way you wanted
them to vote.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Listen, I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist or anything else.
I never studied for one, so a lot like that
doctor was at least not yet.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So, but I have here's some advice.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Ready, and this carries over for the rest of your life,
for any election, any sports, you might have a sports
team conflict in your family, here's how you handle it
at the holidays.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
You passed me the potatoes place. Yeah, isn't that what? Like,
you just gon't move on.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
By the way, there are plenty of people in your life,
in your life, all around your life who don't like
the same foods as you, the same politics as you,
the same sports teams as you, the same ice cream
as you.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Just so, first of all, if it's if it's.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Going to trigger you, just don't have the conversation at all. Secondly,
you just I have plenty of people that I know,
I know I do not agree with politically.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You know what we talk about, not politics.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
We just don't, I mean, because we know I'm not
gonna get a fight with someone who I really like
on every other level and just don't happen to agree
on politics past the potatoes pastor gravy. Hey, you want
to watch the football game after we eat?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Okay, good now, I probably couldn't take a nap because
you know, a turkey makes me tired.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
That's that's the conversation you have, idiots.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, no, without a doubt, I should you.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Know, I should open a like a psychiatrist or a
psychiatric kind of consulting firm.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
And just tell it like it is. Suck it. Up
but a cup and pass me the potatoes.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, you would think.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
That they would have learned something from the fact that
they they had. They had a resounding loss, not just
you know, a by the skin of your teeth loss,
a resounding loss nationally. So you wouldn't think that they
would have figured out now that that making people feel
badly about their political choices, about being divisive, about about

(11:40):
ridiculing people who don't agree with you, that none of
that was the way to move forward. You would have
thought that, But no, they haven't. And it's not just
the holidays that are bringing this out. There are some
people on the mainstream media which cannot get it through
their thick heads that they, in fact not only just
lost an election, they lost a move movement. There has

(12:01):
been a a complete tidal wave against this kind of divisiveness,
snowflake woke attitude toward people who don't agree with you,
and some people just haven't got the memo. Over on
the view Whoopy Goldberg whoopee is saying, Okay, we need
to wait and see what's gonna happen. Now we lost

(12:22):
the election, let's move forward, Let's see what happened. And
a Navarro on the view can't handle that. No, no,
we can't wait and see cut number five.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
I think what we're all saying is we're gonna sit
and wat wait, We're gonna wait and see because we
can't do anything else except I'm.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Not gonna wait and see.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
I mean, this guy is.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
There is nothing to be done until you know what
you're fighting. It's it's missing and the wind doesn't help you.
Just get away.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
What I'm saying is I have no false expectations that
at seventy eight he's going to all of a.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
Sudden turned down.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
I spent weeks telling people that he was apocalyptic.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
I'm not going to change now.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
It can treating every single thing.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I think that's when.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
We lose credibility.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
You lose credibility in many different ways. If you don't
know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something,
then then they're going to blow it back. That's why
I saying we need to wait and see exactly what
you want to do.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
By the way, whoop and I don't agree with Whoopee
at all.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I got to quit this show, God bless her. There
two weeks in a row.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
I'm going to agree with WHOOPI yeah, and she's right,
and she is right, wait and see it and this
you know that if she's right, she's right.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And you lose credibility by saying somebody's gonna do something
and they don't do it.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
By the way, yeah, I did think I heard ad
nausea almost between Biden and Kamala Harris and and all
these other folks on that side of the aisle. The
unity thing. We got to bring the country back together.
I'm going to bring everybody to the center.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Your name is in a navara, in which case you
want to blow everybody.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
We will use the problem. So let's just let's flip
it around.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Kamala Harris wins the election, right, and and all the
Republicans are are angry about it because they would be
I mean, they'd be like, oh my god, she won
the election. But anybody says anything like that, No, it's
about unity. Why don't you shut up and let's see
what happens. But no, their person doesn't win, and unity
goes out the window. Where's the unity? Look, I don't
know what it's going to be like over the next
four years or eight or sixteen or any other number.

(14:24):
And you do have to wait and see. But also
where where is the Kumbaya bring everybody together message that
was being sent before. I guess we don't want to
bring everybody together if our persons not in the White House.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
There are some Democrats who have who are putting their
money where their mouth is in regard to the unity
and the rest. But then you have people like Anna
Navara who's got Trump derangement syndrome. She's got almost a psychosis.
She can't wrap her head around the fact that.

Speaker 8 (14:51):
She was.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Wrong on the election outcome and that people don't agree
with her. The fact that people don't agree with her
is sending her you know not so Now over on HBO,
Bill maher very rational, reasonable guy, has come out and said, okay,
this is obviously this election went against wokeism and that
was part of the problem that the Democratic Party had

(15:14):
and the message that it didn't sell. And he's trying
to have this conversation with Donna Brazil, but she won't.
She won't even acknowledge that that was a failure in
this election. Cut number twelve.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
And she also seemed to represent that whole woke zone
that people are sick to death.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Off and was three.

Speaker 10 (15:33):
I agree with the first two because immigration, as I said, well,
inflation was something the Biden Harris administration. They wrestled with
that through the supply chain, through trying the lord to cast,
making sure that people could afford their groceries, and they guess.
But still childcare became a big issue, housing cost of housing.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
So while I do.

Speaker 10 (15:54):
Believe that they made significant gains, there's no question immigration
became an issue. But I'm not going to get into this.
Oh the people are too damn woke. That wasn't an issue.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
What happened it was.

Speaker 10 (16:07):
I disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know, I'm not why you're going to keep losing.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, and that's exactly right, that's why you're going to
keep losing. But then you have Democrats like Senator John
Fetterman Pennsylvania Swing state Pennsylvania, who says, you know, hey,
I'm not going to prejudge. Let's wait and see cut fifteen.

Speaker 11 (16:25):
Is there anybody else on his cabinet list that you
think you might get behind? And then on the other side,
is there anyone on your sort of over my dead
body list?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (16:35):
Well, and again, of course I'm a fan of my
colleague from Florida, and I'm gonna enthusiastic going to vote
yes for Senator Rubio. And then you know, with doctor Oz,
I mean, everybody understands that we ran in the same
cycle and it got kind of ugly, and I don't
have any kind of bitterness, and I just expressed I'm

(16:56):
open to a dialogue. Hear what he has to say
about these things. I'm not sure why that's controversial to say, Hey,
I think I saw a great from Bill Maher. He
just said, I'm not going to pre hate. I'm not
going to pre hate a lot of these things, and
I'm not going to create this. I'm going to have
an open conversation for anyone that I'm open to having
part of that conversation.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Good for him. A little confusing at the end there,
but I get where he's gone with it. He's like,
let's let's talk. That's all about unity. Bill Maher was
about unity. Stop stop shoving stuff down people's throats and
start talking to them. And that's the way forward. And
the people who are agreeing to that and are open
to that are the people that will move forward and
we'll have and will be have a happy life moving forward.

(17:40):
The people like Innannavara are going to be in their rooms,
you know, kind of like Captain Quig from the community,
shoveling marbles together in their hands because they lost.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
I get to I get a little worried about the
side that lost trying to put up every kind of
wall and roadblock to anything getting accomplished, just to show that,
oh see, he's not a good president. I think you
got to let this thing play out, and I think
you got to give Look, history will eventually dictate whether
Trump forty five or Trump forty seven was a great

(18:12):
president and not so great president of but whatever. And
in this case, we've already seen forty five, So let's
move on to forty seven. And we don't have we
don't have clue number one about who Trump forty seven
is going to be as president and who's going to
put up the roadblocks. So things he wants to accomplish
that might actually help the country can't be accomplished because
he's got all these these roadblocks thrown up in front

(18:33):
of him. So and then they'll, of course the ones
throwing up the roadblocks will be like, say, you can't
get anything done? What the So I'm worried about that,
and if that comes to pass, then I'll be upset.
And if it doesn't then then I'll be very happy.
I seem to think it probably will happen more often
than it doesn't. But we'll see. John Fetterman can be
the point guy and just push everybody out.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
The generation is like leaving the Senate. He was like
the moderate Democrat before. Right now it appears to be
John Fatterman.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
But just bus by the way carried to say, because
we were worried about even being elected the first and.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Of reason from the stroke. So he's doing much better.
But the roadblocks you're talking about, there was a big
one that was taken out of Trump's way this week.
That was a big gift to Donald Trump. If you
remember last year, something happens that has There was a
big Hail Mary pass by the Democrats trying to block

(19:25):
President Trump running for president, and it didn't work. And
it came in the form of Jack Smith last August
announcing that Donald Trump was indicted for the January sixth insurrection.
Cut three a.

Speaker 13 (19:38):
Today, an Nightman was unsealed, charging Donald J. Trump with
conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters
and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. The
attack on our nation's capital on January sixth, twenty twenty one,

(19:58):
was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Wow, this week, that indictment was dropped, that case was dropped,
It was dismissed by the judge without prejudice, meaning it's
out there in the ether, but it's been dismissed. And
oh my gosh, the mainstream media, the liberal mainstream media,
did not know what to do about this. Over at CNN,

(20:26):
they had who was it? It was a Evan Prez
was the political analyst announcing the breaking news that have
been dropped and he wants to make sure everybody knows
it's dropped. But not on the merits. That's cut three B.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
This has nothing to do with the strength of the case.
This simply has to do with the verdict essentially that
voters gave. On the Justice Department policy, long standing Justice
Department policy, the Department is not allowed to prosecute a
president a sitting president. That shield essentially also applies to
him as a as an elected president, as the president elect.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Now, if you think by any chances the fact that
the fact that the Court has dismissed it and Jack
Smith is fleeing the Department of Justice, that it's over.
Maybe maybe not cut three c.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
These cases could be revived after Trump serves this next term, right,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, look, if you look at the language that
the Special Council used and that the judge uses in
deciding this without prejudice, means that when Donald Trump is
no longer president of the United States, these cases could
be revived.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I don't think they will be their lawfare. It's lawfair,
and I think the lawfair is at an end because
the Democrats saw what all the time, money and angs
brought them, which is a kick in the face, well
an electorate.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Right, And I also believe that Donald Trump, when he
gets out of office this time, he'll be eighty two. Secondly,
he won't be running for anything anymore. There's no there's
They wanted to stop him from ever becoming president again.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
They failed to that.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
The Constitution will stop him from becoming president ever again.
So there's really no reason to then go after, for
whatever reason, an eighty two year old, a former president,
for this particular case. I mean, look, if he murdered
one hundred people find you'd be prosecuted for murdered. But
this case has no legs because the whole legs of
the case were to stop him from becoming president again,

(22:23):
and you failed, and he won't be president again because
he can't.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Makes sense to me, makes absolute sense to me. There's
one thing. Now, we normally end every week with a Bidenism,
but we started this week's with Bidenism, so we're not
going to end with one. But I did want to
end with something that was pretty interesting to me, and
that is an undercover reporter ask Raha Holand of the

(22:51):
NIH National Institutive Health regarding some of the issues that
RFK Junior got just bashed on in regard to the
COVID response done by the CDC and so forth, and
about the whether NIH funded the Wuhan lab, whether the

(23:13):
mRNA vax was safe, and whether it's causing myo carditis,
whether any of the rules that they put into place,
the social distancing rules, had any basis In fact, these
are all questions that RFK Junior was lamd basted for
asking during the COVID and now that he is in
fact president Trump's nominee for Health and Human Services secretary.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know, these his.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Statements before the reason why people were calling him a
nut have come into question. But this is a undercover
reporter talking to this NIH doctor regarding these very questions,
and you will be amazed at what was said. This
is Colon chief of Health Data Standards Brands of NIH

(23:59):
telling an un cover reporter that NAH indeed may have
funded the lab in Wuhan, Cut number six.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
What do you think about the NH now that you
were working there, probably be like saying this out loud.

Speaker 11 (24:11):
They might have funded UH a lab in Wuhan, China
to like make Anfizer and Moderna. I was getting a
bunch of money from from all these vaccine mandates.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
We have a nightclub.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Wow, well they're undercover. Reporter's not doing an interview. He's
like in a bar.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, okay, so it's in a bar.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, Well I just got the background noise sounded like
they were having a drink.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, that's exactly what they're doing. So we shouldn't be
saying that this out loud. But yeah, they were kickbacks
for the vaccines and Wuhan may have been funded. Well,
that's not the only thing apparently. You know how they've
been tying myocarditis to the m RNA vas. Yeah, that's
apparently there is something there. Cut six A.

Speaker 12 (24:49):
Do you think that, like the family, it's really about with.

Speaker 11 (24:55):
I think we're all going to learn when it's too late.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, that's kind of well that I would agree with.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
I mean that part I would agree with. Now, Listen,
this is coming from a guy, and I always like
to be honest. I've had every vaccine that I can have.
I'm up to date on everything. I haven't dropped yet,
but I have said that, Look, a lot of vaccines,
a lot of treatments, a lot of drugs that we
use every day, go through clinical trials.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
We have ten.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Twenty thirty forty years of research, we have zero years.
We'll have thirty years of research when these shots have
been in people for thirty years. So I do think
there is a valid point.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I think that's true. But I think we also know
that my own cardtist is in fact caused by the
mRNA vaccine, which is kind of what he's saying. And
then also all those rules like stand six feet away,
wear a mask, Cut six.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
B, like the six rule, remember that like that wasn't
quite based on any real evidence that that did anythore.
It was completely made up.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's the guy in charge of the data for an.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
I well a lot of the stuff in the pandemic,
and I think we can all agree, all right, I
think some of us.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I think I was looking a little bit battern out
of people. He knew what he was taking looks.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
First of all, even if he even if you think
he's crazy, look, you got to ask questions. If you
don't ask questions, you'll never find answers. You know, some people,
sure there's conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Theory, it's not as crazy as people who are making
him out to. NIH data analysts agreeing with some of
the stuff you.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I'm agree with you.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I'm saying, you know, even if you don't agree with
JFK RFK either a K one of the case, it's
good that people ask questions, even if they're crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I get it. But my point with that was basically
that it's not so much you have to agree with RK.
It's that that's the data analyst saying he was right.
There's no agreed disagree he was right. That's what that
data analyst was saying. So it's not. This is not
a matter of opinion. This is the data analyst saying
that was correct. So it's like, oh, I disagree with him.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I think a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, I know you weren't, but you were. You prefaced
everything you said with even if you disagree, and I'm
saying that this is not an agree or disagree situation.
That is the data analyst.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I wasn't talking about the dat analysts. I was talking
about RFK.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
I said, even if you disagree with RFK, you have
to agree that people should ask questions.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I'm just gonna. I'm just ahead. So it's it's if
you understand what I'm saying, you can you can let
you can let bet and you can you can contact
us on x at News by three or on Facebook
at news Bye. We upload a new episode every single Monday,
even to the holidays, so by all means, check back
next Monday and see what new offerings we have. Meanwhile,

(27:30):
I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving. I'm Nancy Shack,
I'm Ben Parker.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
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