December 1, 2025 • 37 mins
A MAGA stalwart shows she can't take the heat in the kitchen, James Comey gets a temporary reprieve, and a bromance blooms in the oval office. The times keep getting stranger and stranger as you will hear in this week's "did they really just say that" clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A magas Stalwart shows she can't take the heat in
the kitchen, James Komy gets a temporary reprieve, and a
bromance blooms in the Oval Office. The times keep getting
stranger and stranger, as you'll hear in this week's did
they really just say that clips?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Nancy Shack, I've Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is news by you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm going back to the people that I love to
live my life to the fullest as I always have.
I'll be resigning from office, with my last day being
January fifth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence and
a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become
under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. Are you affirming that
you think President Trump's a fascist?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I've spoken about Okay, it's easier.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Wow. That was President Trump and New York Mayor elect
Zorn Mundani as a bromance for it was pretty interesting
in the Oval Office. It was a very weird public meeting.
Don't forget that, President Trump. This was a guy who
just a few weeks ago before the election went after
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Mom Donnie during his sixty minutes interview, and if you
need to be reminded the stuff he was saying thirteen
A please.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Don't we have a communist who's thirty three years old,
doesn't know a damn thing practically, he's never worked a
day in his life.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And he sort of caught on right. And I'm not
going to send a lot of money to New York.
I don't have to, you know, and the money comes
all through the White House.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
And if they're going to be sending us stupid policies,
I mean communist policies, which has proven for thousands of
years doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'm correction. So that was a cabinet meeting, not sixty minutes.
But see, so he's going to he's a communist. I'm
not going to help them, et cetera. Now we go
fast forward to after the election and zarn mom Donnie
comes in to meet with President Trump in the Oval Office.
Cut number ten for you you preferred to Eastern Montani's communists.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
He's scrip why you feel that way, and also will
do anything to stop him from arresting Prime Minister letting up.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Because it's well, we didn't discuss to your second part
of big Question, and on your first part.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I mean, he's got views and a little out there,
but who knows. I mean, we're going to see what
works or he's going to change. Also, we all change.
I changed a lot, change a lot from when I
first came to office.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
It's now quite a while ago. It's quite a while.
My first term was great. We had the greatest economy
in the history of our country. We're doing even better now.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We're doing much better now than we did even the
first term.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
And I can tell you some of my views have changed,
and we we had discussions on something. I'm going to
discuss what they were, but that I feel very confident
that he can do a very good job. I think
I think he's going to be I think he is
going to surprise him conservative people actually, and some very
liberal people.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He won't surprise him because they already like him.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, what the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And then you almost feel like this is one of
those truth ortrol moments. Don't you a little bit? You
do you do?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
In fact, we're going to have a cut from that
meeting as a truth or told But then we have
Zora mom. Donnie is asked by reporter you heard this
in the open. Well you called him a fascist. Do
you still think he's a fascist? And you have Trump
sitting there smiling at him, and well you hear what happened?
Cut thirteen, clarify your.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
Answers and Wilson he asked about your comment called the president.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
A fascist, and your answer was when President Trump and
I had clear.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bet our positions in our views.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
I've spoken about that. Okay, you just say, okay, it's easier.
It's easier than explaining a pedal.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But and mindummy is just going uh huh okay, and
called him a fashift. So it was a very strange meeting,
and it was so confounded most people, including are you
ready Jake Tapper on CNN was like what the bleep?
Cut seventeen.
Speaker 9 (04:22):
An extraordinary flabbergasting scene in the Oval Office today. While
some may have expected tension or even fireworks in the
first ever meeting between New York City's first ever Muslim
mayor and the first president to ever have called for
a ban on all Muslims entering the country, instead we
got handshakes, pats on the back, niceties.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No really, no, yeah, really, I mean everybody's scratching their head.
Nobody understands.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We don't know a cut of this because I didn't
think ahead. But I think back to what Bill Maher
had said, you know, he had that meeting with Donald Trump.
He did, and he came out with a glowing referral
of the president. And I just saw another new thing
one of his shows recently where he was talking about
how Donald Trump has this persona as the president and
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a lot of people don't like it, but when you
sit down with him, it's a totally different human meaning, yeah,
he's a human being. And so I suspect and I
don't know for sure because I wasn't in the meeting,
But when Mumdami, who mcdanni, who doesn't like Trump and
probably still doesn't like his policies and his politics, went
in a room and was charmed him, charmed by him,
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and perhaps President Trump was charmed a bit by mamdanni
because a lot of people who were in politics do
put on a little bit more of a or less
of it depends on their personality. But they're different when
they're on the stump, when they're out and they're going
and behind closed doors. Yeah, you could, you could have
a beer with Yes, you make a.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Good point, because most likely it's one of the secrets
to his abilities to negotiate. Donald Trump does. He charms people,
and people who hate him don't see it. But that's
because my guess is they haven't sat down with.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, that's exactly right. And actually Bill Marr mentioned something
about that that the people who have been critical of Trump,
if they just sat down with him, you know, they
pretty much they still might not like his politics, but
they would have a totally different view of Donald Trump
the human being.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
But what sprung to my mind was when they're getting
along some along the Oval office, is that line from Ghostbusters,
dog and cats living together, you know, just chaos everywhere.
I mean, that's that's kind of I'm looking, Oh my god,
it's the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah. And you have an avowed socialist, last.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Communist, you know, becoming you know gros Well, you say
President Trump the head of the MAGA movement.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You also say things and the presidential level, mayoral level,
city council or level in places you say things to
get elected, but you're not maybe going to go as
far as you say you are. Whether it's left or right,
it doesn't matter. There is kind of this almost mad
that draws a little more to the center, not necessarily
to the center, but so Mamdani was way out here,
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and that's what kind of elected I suspect he'll step
at least a one or two steps, maybe a shuffle
to the right, but he still won't be in the center.
But nonetheless he will change. As Trump said, because they
all do, all, all of them do they do? All
of them do do?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I completely agree with that, But it's interesting. It was
a really weird week because that was not the only
shocking moment this week is Trump's and mom Dommy becoming
fast and furious friends in the space of an hour.
But there was another big moment, and that was the
case against former FBI Director James Comey and the age
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of New York Letitia James was dismissed, not on the merits,
by the way, but because the Clinton appointed judge did
not believe that the prosecutor Halligan, who is who signed
up off on the indictments, was qualified to do so
because she was just a temporary prosecutor and had not
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been had not been vetted. He felt sufficiently, so the
case was dismissed what in the terms what they use
it without prejudice, which means it could be brought again now.
Yet you know, call me James, call me celebrated like
this was some kind of vindication of his culpability, that
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he'd been innocent all along, and that's you know, that's
what happened here. This is him posting a video celebrating
the dismissal Cut one hundred.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence, and
a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become
under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. But I was also
inspired by the example of the career people who refuse
to be part of his travesty. It cost some of
them their jobs, which is painful, but to preserved their integrity,
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which is beyond price, and I know they.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Will serve again now along celebrating with him, or the
Democrat water carrier CNN and the new version of MSNBC
which is now ms celebrating this dismissal, the same type
of way cut one o seven.
Speaker 9 (09:22):
There were so many different issues with these prosecutions.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
It was kind of a question of which one was
really going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
The one to get in the way.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
The cases have now been dismissed and probably delivered a
humiliating defeat to the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
No doubt, this is a huge defeat for the Trump
administration at this point.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
This is a significant ruling, and some will see it
as a victory for the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now, first of all, let's explain this was not a
defeat of anything. This was a technical dismissal based on
which is cured very easily. So, in other words, the
court didn't rule that call Me was innocent. The court
didn't rule that the cases had no America, well, not
of the sort. The court said somebody else had to
sign that indictment. That's so, there are multiple ways to
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cure this very easily. In fact, this is George Washington
University professor Jonathan Chilly, constitutional specialist who knows exactly how
to fix everything. Cut one ten.
Speaker 10 (10:18):
Well, First of all, Letitia James might be celebrating it's
had too early. The problems here are not with the
charges themselves, but essentially with the cop or in this case,
the prosecutor. So the court is not saying that she
did that she was innocent of these charges. The court
is simply saying that the person who signed off on
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the charges didn't have authority to do that. So the
obvious thing here is to get someone who is lawfully
in a position to perform this role. Usually, after one
hundred and twenty days, the district court appoints someone as
the replacement. They're going to have to work this one out,
and it's rather uncharted ten territory here to make sure
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that the next person who signs is going to be
beyond these.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Types of questions. They could also appeal. You know, they're
they're already.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
Past the original date, but the argument is that they
do have a right to go back to the grand jury.
So they may just appeal and say, look, we think
we have a good argument here.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So those are basically you can rebring the charges with
somebody new, or you just appeal it one or those others.
And you know what, the Trump administration is already on
top of that. This is this is a g Pambondi
cut one oh six, or we'll.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Be taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal
to hold Leticia James and James comy accountable for their
unlawful conduct.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
There you go. So all this celebrating, they're trying to
give the impression that James call me and Leticia James
were vindicated somehow. There's nothing even remotely close to that happened.
The court said, I don't like the process here, redo it.
That's what the judge said, and that's why it's dismissed
without prejudice, meaning bring it again, just don't do this one.
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So they bring the charges again, have somebody different signed it,
or they appeal that decision saying bring it again. Either way,
he's back up there having to deal with the charges.
Both of them are. And so I don't know where
all this big defeat talk and malicious prospect all that
it means nothing. They're trying to give the American people
the impression that something that the case was groundless against them,
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when it's not even close to being grat You, of course.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Are lawyer, you have a legal background. Most but most
Americans don't. So they hear a surface thing. Somebody tells them, hey,
I'm vindicated, and they go, oh, they're vindicated. Whereas someone
who has a law background or is a lawyer. Even
people for example, who are haters of Donald Trump? If you,
if you know the law, you would say exactly what
you just said, right, I mean, it's not over. I mean,
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this is just it's just a bump, right. Yeah. Whereas
if James Comy or Leticia James or some other politically
charged person comes out and says vindication, people who don't
know the law would say, oh, vindication. So that's where
we got this confusion and running amuck anywhere everywhere, everywhere
in the country. By the way, vindication would also only
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come if these if these charges do go back on
and they go to trial and they get found not guilty,
then you could say we've been vindicated. However, I would
argue that even not guilties do not vindicate you in
the in the eyes of the people who think you're
guilty anyway. Oh Ja Simpson, So I mean there is
obviously not guilty is not always vindication. It's just not guilty.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
No, that's right. That's not guilty does not mean innocent.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It means and there's a lot of yeah, not innocent
people who are not young.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yes, yes, So that was a fascinating moment this week,
and but one of the other most shocking moments came
this week when Mags superstar Congressoman Marjorie Taylor Green of
Georgia says she's had enough and is not just not
running again, not running for re election. She's quitting and
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she's going to do so in January with when the
next when the next Congress takes over after the next
group is sworn in, quitters are a diamond dozen. But
I never expected them, wanted them to be Marjorie Taylor Green.
But she put this up on her on her website,
much to everybody, shot cut seven.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Until then, I'm going back to the people that I love,
to live my life to the fullest as I always have,
and I look forward to a new path ahead. I'll
be resigning from office with my last day being January fifth,
twenty twenty six, and I look forward to seeing many
of you again sometime in the future. May God bless
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you all, and may God bless America.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Now a lot of people are saying, well, what the
hell happened?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What the hell happened on one of them? And I
have issues, but go I'll let you finish.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, So a multiple things happen. Now, she tried to
blame what happened on her split with or her partnership
with Congressman Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey is one of those
people who have been screaming released the Epstein files, released
the Epstein files over and over again. And she was
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one of the congressmen that stood with him and the
President vice had fine released the Epstein files. And that's
what she tried to make her resignation about. And she
did that in her video cut number five.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Standing up for American women who were raped at fourteen
years old, trafficked in use by rich, powerful men should
not result in me being called a trader and threatened
by the President of the United States.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Whom I fought for.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now she's trying to make it sound like Donald Trump
called her trader because she stood up for the Epstein files.
That is not what happened. Did he call her trader? Yes,
he did, he was He did his you know thing
that he does, Marjorie Trader Green. You know that's the
he calls people's names. But it's not because of the
Epstein files. He did that because during the shutdown, which
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was caused by the Democrats, senator was refusing to vote.
Chuck Schumer and friends you know, this was Chuck Schumer
trying to appease the Progressive Party so that he would
not be primary in his next senatorial election. She stood
with the Democrats. That is why he was he was
calling her a trader to the Republican Party. He was
not calling her a trader to you know, the the
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United States because of the Epstein files. He was saying,
she was supposed to stand by because the Republicans are
really doing their best to focus on who was really
a cause for the shutdown, which was in fact the
Democrat Party. But she wasn't playing ball. That's where the
problem came in, and that's where the fight came in.
So when President Trump was told that she's resigning, well,
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this was his response, it's cut number two.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Are you willing to for deep congress Woman Taylor Green
forgetful us?
Speaker 11 (17:05):
No, we'll get I just disagreed with her philosopher. She
started backing perhaps the worst Republican congresson in our history,
you know, stupid person named Massey.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
And I told go your own way.
Speaker 11 (17:23):
And once I left her, she resigned because you wouldn't
have she would never have survived the primary. But I
think she's a nice person.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Okay, that could be a truth or told too. Do
you think she's a nice person, But that's basically saying
she didn't stay with us. Then she supported Tom Massey,
who hates the president. And so this is what's happening.
And can I point out violate one point?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That part of the problem here is the fact that
she was already being primaried in her district and she
was already twenty points underwater in her primary. We're not
even talking about the election, we're talking about the primary,
so of Republicans in her district of Georgia. She was
underwater twenty points. She was not going to win a primary.
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So that's what you see going into and then on
top of it, she picks a fight with the president
because I think she thought, maybe you know, she could
do it so.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And she I mean she bled maga. I mean really
she is maga.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
She is absolute maga. So I think what you have here,
and it's just a guess on my part. You think
you have multiple problems. One, she knew she was going
to lose her primary and lose her seat, and she
has aspirations for higher office, either Senate or governor, and
having a getting shell ACKed a in a congressional district
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election does not help you if that's what you're going
to do moving forward. So I think she thought, you
know what, I'm better off not not running and I'll
just leave now. The problem that she that I think
has happened here is that she should have just served
out her the rest of her term and does not
run for reelection. Instead, she picks up her baseball and
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bat and goes home because she's pissed and makes herself
a target for other Republicans and for the Democrats because
oddly enough, and this is somebody I personally despised, but
you know what, she's got a point. This is a congressman,
Jasmine Crockett, who is not the smartest of the Democrat
and who is also a loudmouth and a self absorbed,
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self centered representative and really should not be in public office.
But she is, and she'll be out soon because her
she was gerrymannered out. But she took one look at that,
and this was what Jasmin Crockett had to say about
Marjorie Tayler green cut eight.
Speaker 12 (19:46):
You know what, honestly, I was like, you've got to
be kidding me. You're on the other side of the
president for one week and you can't take the heat.
Imagine what it is to sit in my shoes, to
not only be on the opposite side of him, but
to have people like her who are constantly fanning the
flames of hate. And imagine what those threats look like
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when you literally are someone like me. But at the
end of the day, I know that I serve the
people of Texas thirty, and so my job isn't to
be there and necessarily do whatever is going to make
the president not be on my bag, but instead is
to focus on making sure that I can push forward
with policies that are positive for Texas thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Now, Jasmine Crockett is a joke, and for a joke
to call you a joke is pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Joke is a joke.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So I think she basically she completely miscalculated. She thought
it might make her look stronger. It makes her look
like a buffoon to leave the way she did as
opposed to just not run for reelection. My only thinking is,
she's not stupid, so why would you do that? Maybe
because she's got to sign off and running for higher
office before the election, I don't know, But the you know,
she she's not the most credible person Marjorie Taylergreen, first
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of all because she got involved q Andon. But more
than that, she tries to present herself as every man,
as a common man, as one of the people. She
comes from money. Her family owns a huge cause she's
at worth over twenty five million dollars, but she tries
to hide that she ran a construction company. Her family
is construction company before she ran for office. This is
all about power and limelight. But she said, oh, this
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is about power line. I need to help the people,
and I can't do it if the president is mad
at me. And it's only mad at me because of
I wanted to release the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
All of which is garbage.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Not a single word of that is true.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
A lot of this has all been said, including but
not limited to Jasmine Crockett. Sadly, I have to agree
with some of what she says. So here's my thoughts.
Real quick, is one, as you said, just don't run
for reelection, just say you know what, I'm going to
take a breather. I'm going to come back into politics. Whatever,
I'm gonna run for this, I'm gonna do this. I'm
gonna do this, blah blah blah, but I'm gonna take
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a breather. Love you all, God bless America. Here we go.
Quitting is first of all, could just imagine for one
second if every politician at every level of government just
quit when uh, I can't do anything anymore. I'm quitting.
Fight at least, you know, go in And isn't that
what politicians tell us they're gonna do. Yeah, they're gonna
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fight for you, fight whatever they're.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Things are hard, you're not fighting when things are easy?
Speaker 13 (22:18):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh my god? Oh imagine here's a boxing match. Guy,
Guy's gonna fight Mike Tyson whatever, gets in the ring, yeah,
and gets hit once and goes, no, I'm leaving. I'm
gonna go. That's that I didn't. I didn't expect that. Listen,
I don't be a jerk. Run the term out, fight,
don't fight, but don't just quit. Drop because here, as
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you said, she wants to run for something else. Here's
here's how I would be if I was gonna be
in her district. They're always gonna have to vote for her.
N Oh no, because I'm not gonna vote for me one.
Shame on you know you I'm not gonna vote for
someone who quits when they're going gets tough. Oh my god,
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this is the president is mad at me and anybody. Anybody.
Look at everybody in Washington. Everybody. Everybody has a whole
lot of people, maybe half of the Washington against them.
If that's if you can't take that. Jasmine Crockett is right. Look,
she gets you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Ever think you'd hear you say that? Ever?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean ever, no, I put that back in my mouth.
Jasmine Crockett's right. Look, she like her or not. She
does get a lot of flak from from the President,
from the right and from the Republicans because well because
she's because she's Jasmine Crockett. But she's still in her job. Listen,
I'll give her that. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
She didn't she didn't run anywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
She can quit. Chuck Schumer gets a lot of flak,
he doesn't quit. Elizabeth Warren gets a lot of flats.
She doesn't quit. Donald Trump gets a ton of crap.
Could you imagine him getting up tomorrow and going.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Do this anymore?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, listen, I'm pulling Nixon right in this office, right,
I mean, come on, this is why you became a politician.
I think this is why you went to Washington to
fight when you just let as you said, take your
bat and ball and go home. Please. And I'm not
voting for you for anything else because you have shown
your true stripes. When things get tough, you leave. So leave.
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It's fine. She's not my rep. I mean she is
because she's part of Congress, but look stupid. I just
think it's stupid.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, I do disagree. So that was a really big
moment this week. And then another big moment happened when
the sedition brew haha started to heat up again. And
if anybody doesn't remember, six congressmen and senators last week
released a video basically extorting the US military to well,
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do this cut one on one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Our laws are clear.
Speaker 14 (24:50):
You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You must refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, so that was bad.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That was everybody Democrats included said, you don't extort the
US military to not follow, you know, orders. But and
President Trump gave a response on True Social saying sedition
and then a hyphen and then the term death penalty
question mark meaning after this is after he was a
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diatribe against the video itself. You know that the death
penalty is listed as an a punishment for sedition in
the United States. It's on the book, says one of
the possible things that could happen to you if you
are convicted of sedition. So well, this turned into a
huge bruha with him saying, well, you know, apparently the
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president wants to kill Democratic members of Congress. At no
point did he say let's kill Democratic members of Congress,
nor did he said that they anybody you know, should
be killed. What he's saying is that if you are
found guilty of sedition, the death penalty is on the books.
And he made this point when he was doing an
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interview on with Brian Kilmead. Cut number one.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You're not saying, you're not threatening them.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
A lot of people are interpreting there's a thread in
their security, right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Not threatening that, but I think they're in serious trouble.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
I would say they're in serious trouble.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm not threatening dead, but I think they're.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
In serious trouble. In the old days, it was dead.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But you know, he's just saying that's on the books
and the Department of War is now investigating one of
those senators, Mark Kelly of Arizona. He is I think
currently he's National Guard.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He was in the Navy, he.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Was an astronaut and he in fact so he was
I don't know if he was a flyer or not.
But he is currently in the National Guard. So he's
still under military jurisdiction. So the Department of Where said,
can we talk to you for a second. This was
his response, cut eleven A.
Speaker 14 (27:05):
Let me first just get your response to this threat
from the Defense Department saying that they are investigating you.
They may potentially recall you to active duty to face
a court martial.
Speaker 15 (27:17):
Well, Rachel I said something that was pretty simple and
non controversial, and that was that members of the military
should follow the law. And in response to that, Donald
Trump said I should be executed, I should be hanged,
I should be prosecuted. He even went on and said
(27:38):
something about go get them, I guess sending a mob
to round me and the other folks up. So this
is I think it says a lot more about him
than it says about me. He doesn't want accountability, But Rachel,
I'm not going to be silenced I'm not going to
be intimidating.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
First of all, the president, because you heard da video,
he never said the video doesn't at any point say
the military should follow a lot. They don't say that,
they say don't follow orders. It's a completely different thing
one too. The President has never said that Mark Kelly
should be executed, never said that anybody should be executed.
He's simply said sedition. One of those penalties is the
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death penalty. That's all he said.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We all work in places right where where if you
do something wrong at work, right your punishment could be
anything up to and including termination. Yeah, doesn't mean just
because you do something wrong, you're going to get fired.
That same thing here, Oh, let's just kill everybody. First
of all, let me let me let me go on
record as saying this sedition itself. If we have a
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case of sedition against a congressman or mayor or whoever,
it doesn't matter. Nobody's being executed. We can't even put
mass murderers to death in this country without a huge fight.
So let's let's let's call it out. Nobody's getting put
down for sedition, and certainly no elected official.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
They may be being called to account and I think
all of these people, these six people, including Mark Kelly,
thought that you know, going this is a tough thing,
this is a cool thing they're going to do. They're
going to tough. They're showing how much they despise the president,
except they went too far. They basically are in fact,
and you know, maybe a try or fact can disagree.
(29:22):
But I think there all of them are in trouble
because I think having a US senator saying don't follow
orders to the military is a problem. And I think
it's even sorry to occur to some of them that
there might be an issue, and so some of them
are trying to talk their way out of it now
with not much success. And one example is Democrat Senator
Alissa Slotkin.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
She was on ABC. This one did not go well
for her.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Cut thirteen A.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
Speaker 8 (29:51):
To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that
are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related
to venezue, and I think that's why.
Speaker 13 (30:01):
And be specific about that. Let me read you what
Senator Lindsey Graham said about your video. You owe it
to the men and women in the military to be
specific about what you are talking about. What these senators
and House members did was unnerving and it was unconscionable
to suggest that the President of the United States is
issuing unlawful orders without giving an example.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
So, for me, my primary concern is the use of
US military on American shores, on in our cities and
in our streets. We've seen now the courts overturn the
deployment of US military into our streets, including here in Washington, DC.
When you look at these videos coming out of places
like Chicago, it makes me incredibly nervous that we're about
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to see people in law enforcement, people in uniform, military,
get nervous, get stressed, shoot at American civilians.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Okay, so she doesn't know where to go. She's like,
you know, she's like a rabbit in a beam of
a headline. She doesn't know which way to go, and
so she's kind of frozen in the middle. First of all, Venezuela.
Then what are you talking about? Well, okay, maybe it's
not Venezuela. Maybe it's because maybe it's possible somebody could
someday get shot. Seriously, she has no response to this.
(31:10):
They did not think this through. They were posturing and
patting each other and back going this is great, well
so much we hate Trump, and they walked right into
committing a major crime. And that's what's happened here.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I would and I'm not downplaying it. I mean, sedition
is there's rules for what sedition is and what treason
is and all this other stuff. But I look at
these clowns as rabble rousing. That's they really want to
be rabble rousers. I don't think they hate their country.
I don't think they're trying to commit sedition, but I
mean laws or laws, they were rabble rousers. But here's
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the other thing, and this is kind of a problem
with the way the military works in this function in
my mind. Now, maybe I'm wrong, Probably am. So you
don't have to obey an illegal order. Here's the thing
about saying that out loud, or even even having it
as a rule. Look, there's a lot of very, very
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very smart people in the military, but not every person
in the military, on a drop of a hat, is
able to identify a legal or illegal order. And here's
the problem. If we start letting soldiers just willy nilly
disobey orders because they think they're illegal. Then what we
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take them to court and then we say, oh, a
judge says it wasn't illegal, so you now get court marked.
I mean it is kind of a strange dynamic. I
get it. Look, if your a commanding officer comes up
to you and says, hey, listen, I want you to
take your gun going to town tonight and shoot that
woman over there in the head and kill her. That, sir,
that's an illegal order. Some things are obvious. But to
just come out and tell listen, don't obey these illegal orders.
(32:50):
Well which ones are illegal? Because not trust me, not
every person in the military knows every single solitary order.
That's if you'll get If your CEO comes in and says, hey,
we're going to blow up that chip over there because
the drug runners from Venezuela. What are you going to do? No,
let's have a trial first and let's figure it out. No,
So it does get into a humongous gray area. And
as anybody who's been in war will tell you, you
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wait one extra second and people die. And so it is.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It is.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
There's a bit of an underlying issue there. Maybe some
military court would explain it to me. But they're not calling.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Sots no no, so yeah, So it's there's a lot
of things and everybody's played. As we go into the holidays,
I have to say, I know we end every week
with the truth control. This week is no different. This one,
as I as I mentioned earlier, is from the Trump
Zorn Mom Donnie Oval office date. It looked like it was,
(33:46):
you know, first meeting, a Tinder meeting, like a Tinder
meeting exactly. So this is President Trump talking about, you know,
how how wonderful it's going to be to have Mom
Donnie as a mayor? Cut eleven.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Would you feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Living in New York City under adds.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah I would, I wrote, especially after the meeting. Absolutely,
what makes you comfortable? We agree on a lot more
than I would have thought. I think he's I want
him to do a great job, and we'll help him
do a great job. You know, he may have different views,
but in many ways. You know, we were discussing when
Bernie Sanders was out of the race. I picked up
a lot of his votes and people had no idea
because he was strong on not getting ripped off in
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trade and lots of the things that I've practiced and
have been very successful on tariffs, a lot of things.
Bernie Sanders and I agreed on much more than people thought,
and when he was put out of the race, I
think quite unfairly, if you want an the truth, many
of the Bernie Sanders voters voted for me, and I
felt very comfortable, frankly, and seeing that and saying that,
(34:47):
and you know, it just turned out to be a
statistical truth.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
But no, I feel very comfortable. I would be.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I would feel very very comfortable being in New York,
and I think much more so after a meeting.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So the question is, does he really feel comfortable of
being in New York. Don't don't forget now, mom. Donnie
has said that he wants to basically hunt down billionaires
and take all their money. So Donald Trump is a billionaire,
and so if he's still in New York, he's going
to be one of those people who's hunted down and
taken away their money. So is Donald Trump really feel
saying he feels comfortable or is he just trolling because
(35:22):
he's you know, he's the master manipulator.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Well, I don't know. I think well, I think Trump
says he would feel comfortable because he's Donald Trump, and
I think he'd find a way to make himself be
very comfortable in New York, and maybe more so than
than a middle class person or an upper middle class
person might feel. Look, it's his town. I mean, Donald
Trump is a New Yorker and so I think he
(35:46):
would feel comfortable there. Let's see what. Here's the thing
about this, right mont Donnie got elected. Everybody, the people
who were against him, he's a socialist, he's this, he's
a fascist. I mean he's a communist. Blah blah blah
blah blah. Okay, fine, listen, he's been elected, he's met
with the president. The President seems comfortable with him. He's
going to become mayor, and then he's going to start
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his rule. Let's see what he does. Because if he
does pull towards the center, and he does act like
we think he did when he talked to Trump in
the in the Oval office, then I think I think
Trump will be comfortable there. If he goes the other
direction and runs New York off the cliff, I think
Donald Trump will changes to him.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, but that's not the that's not the question. The question, Well,
do you think do you think, do you think Donald.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Trump is I think I think he's truthing right now.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I don't think so. I think he's trolling. I think
he's being polite and trolling. I think he control when
you're polite.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think, sure you do. But I think I think
he's truthing now. But let's see what the truth becomes
in six months or nine months, It'll be a different questions.
That's right. That's why I think it's truth.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Who's true thing? So we Disagreele's see if you agree
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You can check back next Monday because we upload a
new episode every single Monday.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Have a great week and.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
A wonderful Thanksgiving because that's we're going into Thanksgiving at
the time of this taping. Have a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
This is the Auty Shack. Have a wonderful Christmas too,
because that's coming. I guess I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
This is deuced by
A magas Stalwart shows she can't take the heat in
the kitchen, James Komy gets a temporary reprieve, and a
bromance blooms in the Oval Office. The times keep getting
stranger and stranger, as you'll hear in this week's did
they really just say that clips?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm Nancy Shack, I've Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is news by you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm going back to the people that I love to
live my life to the fullest as I always have.
I'll be resigning from office, with my last day being
January fifth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence and
a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become
under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. Are you affirming that
you think President Trump's a fascist?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I've spoken about Okay, it's easier.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Wow. That was President Trump and New York Mayor elect
Zorn Mundani as a bromance for it was pretty interesting
in the Oval Office. It was a very weird public meeting.
Don't forget that, President Trump. This was a guy who
just a few weeks ago before the election went after
(01:26):
Mom Donnie during his sixty minutes interview, and if you
need to be reminded the stuff he was saying thirteen
A please.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Don't we have a communist who's thirty three years old,
doesn't know a damn thing practically, he's never worked a
day in his life.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And he sort of caught on right. And I'm not
going to send a lot of money to New York.
I don't have to, you know, and the money comes
all through the White House.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
And if they're going to be sending us stupid policies,
I mean communist policies, which has proven for thousands of
years doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'm correction. So that was a cabinet meeting, not sixty minutes.
But see, so he's going to he's a communist. I'm
not going to help them, et cetera. Now we go
fast forward to after the election and zarn mom Donnie
comes in to meet with President Trump in the Oval Office.
Cut number ten for you you preferred to Eastern Montani's communists.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
He's scrip why you feel that way, and also will
do anything to stop him from arresting Prime Minister letting up.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Because it's well, we didn't discuss to your second part
of big Question, and on your first part.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I mean, he's got views and a little out there,
but who knows. I mean, we're going to see what
works or he's going to change. Also, we all change.
I changed a lot, change a lot from when I
first came to office.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
It's now quite a while ago. It's quite a while.
My first term was great. We had the greatest economy
in the history of our country. We're doing even better now.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We're doing much better now than we did even the
first term.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
And I can tell you some of my views have changed,
and we we had discussions on something. I'm going to
discuss what they were, but that I feel very confident
that he can do a very good job. I think
I think he's going to be I think he is
going to surprise him conservative people actually, and some very
liberal people.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He won't surprise him because they already like him.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, what the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And then you almost feel like this is one of
those truth ortrol moments. Don't you a little bit? You
do you do?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
In fact, we're going to have a cut from that
meeting as a truth or told But then we have
Zora mom. Donnie is asked by reporter you heard this
in the open. Well you called him a fascist. Do
you still think he's a fascist? And you have Trump
sitting there smiling at him, and well you hear what happened?
Cut thirteen, clarify your.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
Answers and Wilson he asked about your comment called the president.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
A fascist, and your answer was when President Trump and
I had clear.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Bet our positions in our views.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
I've spoken about that. Okay, you just say, okay, it's easier.
It's easier than explaining a pedal.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But and mindummy is just going uh huh okay, and
called him a fashift. So it was a very strange meeting,
and it was so confounded most people, including are you
ready Jake Tapper on CNN was like what the bleep?
Cut seventeen.
Speaker 9 (04:22):
An extraordinary flabbergasting scene in the Oval Office today. While
some may have expected tension or even fireworks in the
first ever meeting between New York City's first ever Muslim
mayor and the first president to ever have called for
a ban on all Muslims entering the country, instead we
got handshakes, pats on the back, niceties.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No really, no, yeah, really, I mean everybody's scratching their head.
Nobody understands.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We don't know a cut of this because I didn't
think ahead. But I think back to what Bill Maher
had said, you know, he had that meeting with Donald Trump.
He did, and he came out with a glowing referral
of the president. And I just saw another new thing
one of his shows recently where he was talking about
how Donald Trump has this persona as the president and
(05:15):
a lot of people don't like it, but when you
sit down with him, it's a totally different human meaning, yeah,
he's a human being. And so I suspect and I
don't know for sure because I wasn't in the meeting,
But when Mumdami, who mcdanni, who doesn't like Trump and
probably still doesn't like his policies and his politics, went
in a room and was charmed him, charmed by him,
(05:36):
and perhaps President Trump was charmed a bit by mamdanni
because a lot of people who were in politics do
put on a little bit more of a or less
of it depends on their personality. But they're different when
they're on the stump, when they're out and they're going
and behind closed doors. Yeah, you could, you could have
a beer with Yes, you make a.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Good point, because most likely it's one of the secrets
to his abilities to negotiate. Donald Trump does. He charms people,
and people who hate him don't see it. But that's
because my guess is they haven't sat down with.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, that's exactly right. And actually Bill Marr mentioned something
about that that the people who have been critical of Trump,
if they just sat down with him, you know, they
pretty much they still might not like his politics, but
they would have a totally different view of Donald Trump
the human being.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
But what sprung to my mind was when they're getting
along some along the Oval office, is that line from Ghostbusters,
dog and cats living together, you know, just chaos everywhere.
I mean, that's that's kind of I'm looking, Oh my god,
it's the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah. And you have an avowed socialist, last.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Communist, you know, becoming you know gros Well, you say
President Trump the head of the MAGA movement.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You also say things and the presidential level, mayoral level,
city council or level in places you say things to
get elected, but you're not maybe going to go as
far as you say you are. Whether it's left or right,
it doesn't matter. There is kind of this almost mad
that draws a little more to the center, not necessarily
to the center, but so Mamdani was way out here,
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and that's what kind of elected I suspect he'll step
at least a one or two steps, maybe a shuffle
to the right, but he still won't be in the center.
But nonetheless he will change. As Trump said, because they
all do, all, all of them do they do? All
of them do do?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I completely agree with that, But it's interesting. It was
a really weird week because that was not the only
shocking moment this week is Trump's and mom Dommy becoming
fast and furious friends in the space of an hour.
But there was another big moment, and that was the
case against former FBI Director James Comey and the age
(07:45):
of New York Letitia James was dismissed, not on the merits,
by the way, but because the Clinton appointed judge did
not believe that the prosecutor Halligan, who is who signed
up off on the indictments, was qualified to do so
because she was just a temporary prosecutor and had not
(08:05):
been had not been vetted. He felt sufficiently, so the
case was dismissed what in the terms what they use
it without prejudice, which means it could be brought again now.
Yet you know, call me James, call me celebrated like
this was some kind of vindication of his culpability, that
(08:29):
he'd been innocent all along, and that's you know, that's
what happened here. This is him posting a video celebrating
the dismissal Cut one hundred.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence, and
a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become
under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. But I was also
inspired by the example of the career people who refuse
to be part of his travesty. It cost some of
them their jobs, which is painful, but to preserved their integrity,
(09:03):
which is beyond price, and I know they.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Will serve again now along celebrating with him, or the
Democrat water carrier CNN and the new version of MSNBC
which is now ms celebrating this dismissal, the same type
of way cut one o seven.
Speaker 9 (09:22):
There were so many different issues with these prosecutions.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
It was kind of a question of which one was
really going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
The one to get in the way.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
The cases have now been dismissed and probably delivered a
humiliating defeat to the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
No doubt, this is a huge defeat for the Trump
administration at this point.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
This is a significant ruling, and some will see it
as a victory for the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now, first of all, let's explain this was not a
defeat of anything. This was a technical dismissal based on
which is cured very easily. So, in other words, the
court didn't rule that call Me was innocent. The court
didn't rule that the cases had no America, well, not
of the sort. The court said somebody else had to
sign that indictment. That's so, there are multiple ways to
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cure this very easily. In fact, this is George Washington
University professor Jonathan Chilly, constitutional specialist who knows exactly how
to fix everything. Cut one ten.
Speaker 10 (10:18):
Well, First of all, Letitia James might be celebrating it's
had too early. The problems here are not with the
charges themselves, but essentially with the cop or in this case,
the prosecutor. So the court is not saying that she
did that she was innocent of these charges. The court
is simply saying that the person who signed off on
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the charges didn't have authority to do that. So the
obvious thing here is to get someone who is lawfully
in a position to perform this role. Usually, after one
hundred and twenty days, the district court appoints someone as
the replacement. They're going to have to work this one out,
and it's rather uncharted ten territory here to make sure
(11:02):
that the next person who signs is going to be
beyond these.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Types of questions. They could also appeal. You know, they're
they're already.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
Past the original date, but the argument is that they
do have a right to go back to the grand jury.
So they may just appeal and say, look, we think
we have a good argument here.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So those are basically you can rebring the charges with
somebody new, or you just appeal it one or those others.
And you know what, the Trump administration is already on
top of that. This is this is a g Pambondi
cut one oh six, or we'll.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Be taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal
to hold Leticia James and James comy accountable for their
unlawful conduct.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
There you go. So all this celebrating, they're trying to
give the impression that James call me and Leticia James
were vindicated somehow. There's nothing even remotely close to that happened.
The court said, I don't like the process here, redo it.
That's what the judge said, and that's why it's dismissed
without prejudice, meaning bring it again, just don't do this one.
(12:05):
So they bring the charges again, have somebody different signed it,
or they appeal that decision saying bring it again. Either way,
he's back up there having to deal with the charges.
Both of them are. And so I don't know where
all this big defeat talk and malicious prospect all that
it means nothing. They're trying to give the American people
the impression that something that the case was groundless against them,
(12:30):
when it's not even close to being grat You, of course.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Are lawyer, you have a legal background. Most but most
Americans don't. So they hear a surface thing. Somebody tells them, hey,
I'm vindicated, and they go, oh, they're vindicated. Whereas someone
who has a law background or is a lawyer. Even
people for example, who are haters of Donald Trump? If you,
if you know the law, you would say exactly what
you just said, right, I mean, it's not over. I mean,
(12:54):
this is just it's just a bump, right. Yeah. Whereas
if James Comy or Leticia James or some other politically
charged person comes out and says vindication, people who don't
know the law would say, oh, vindication. So that's where
we got this confusion and running amuck anywhere everywhere, everywhere
in the country. By the way, vindication would also only
(13:16):
come if these if these charges do go back on
and they go to trial and they get found not guilty,
then you could say we've been vindicated. However, I would
argue that even not guilties do not vindicate you in
the in the eyes of the people who think you're
guilty anyway. Oh Ja Simpson, So I mean there is
obviously not guilty is not always vindication. It's just not guilty.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
No, that's right. That's not guilty does not mean innocent.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It means and there's a lot of yeah, not innocent
people who are not young.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yes, yes, So that was a fascinating moment this week,
and but one of the other most shocking moments came
this week when Mags superstar Congressoman Marjorie Taylor Green of
Georgia says she's had enough and is not just not
running again, not running for re election. She's quitting and
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she's going to do so in January with when the
next when the next Congress takes over after the next
group is sworn in, quitters are a diamond dozen. But
I never expected them, wanted them to be Marjorie Taylor Green.
But she put this up on her on her website,
much to everybody, shot cut seven.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Until then, I'm going back to the people that I love,
to live my life to the fullest as I always have,
and I look forward to a new path ahead. I'll
be resigning from office with my last day being January fifth,
twenty twenty six, and I look forward to seeing many
of you again sometime in the future. May God bless
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you all, and may God bless America.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Now a lot of people are saying, well, what the
hell happened?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What the hell happened on one of them? And I
have issues, but go I'll let you finish.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, So a multiple things happen. Now, she tried to
blame what happened on her split with or her partnership
with Congressman Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey is one of those
people who have been screaming released the Epstein files, released
the Epstein files over and over again. And she was
(15:26):
one of the congressmen that stood with him and the
President vice had fine released the Epstein files. And that's
what she tried to make her resignation about. And she
did that in her video cut number five.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Standing up for American women who were raped at fourteen
years old, trafficked in use by rich, powerful men should
not result in me being called a trader and threatened
by the President of the United States.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Whom I fought for.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now she's trying to make it sound like Donald Trump
called her trader because she stood up for the Epstein files.
That is not what happened. Did he call her trader? Yes,
he did, he was He did his you know thing
that he does, Marjorie Trader Green. You know that's the
he calls people's names. But it's not because of the
Epstein files. He did that because during the shutdown, which
(16:13):
was caused by the Democrats, senator was refusing to vote.
Chuck Schumer and friends you know, this was Chuck Schumer
trying to appease the Progressive Party so that he would
not be primary in his next senatorial election. She stood
with the Democrats. That is why he was he was
calling her a trader to the Republican Party. He was
not calling her a trader to you know, the the
(16:36):
United States because of the Epstein files. He was saying,
she was supposed to stand by because the Republicans are
really doing their best to focus on who was really
a cause for the shutdown, which was in fact the
Democrat Party. But she wasn't playing ball. That's where the
problem came in, and that's where the fight came in.
So when President Trump was told that she's resigning, well,
(16:58):
this was his response, it's cut number two.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Are you willing to for deep congress Woman Taylor Green
forgetful us?
Speaker 11 (17:05):
No, we'll get I just disagreed with her philosopher. She
started backing perhaps the worst Republican congresson in our history,
you know, stupid person named Massey.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
And I told go your own way.
Speaker 11 (17:23):
And once I left her, she resigned because you wouldn't
have she would never have survived the primary. But I
think she's a nice person.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Okay, that could be a truth or told too. Do
you think she's a nice person, But that's basically saying
she didn't stay with us. Then she supported Tom Massey,
who hates the president. And so this is what's happening.
And can I point out violate one point?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That part of the problem here is the fact that
she was already being primaried in her district and she
was already twenty points underwater in her primary. We're not
even talking about the election, we're talking about the primary,
so of Republicans in her district of Georgia. She was
underwater twenty points. She was not going to win a primary.
(18:10):
So that's what you see going into and then on
top of it, she picks a fight with the president
because I think she thought, maybe you know, she could
do it so.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And she I mean she bled maga. I mean really
she is maga.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
She is absolute maga. So I think what you have here,
and it's just a guess on my part. You think
you have multiple problems. One, she knew she was going
to lose her primary and lose her seat, and she
has aspirations for higher office, either Senate or governor, and
having a getting shell ACKed a in a congressional district
(18:45):
election does not help you if that's what you're going
to do moving forward. So I think she thought, you
know what, I'm better off not not running and I'll
just leave now. The problem that she that I think
has happened here is that she should have just served
out her the rest of her term and does not
run for reelection. Instead, she picks up her baseball and
(19:09):
bat and goes home because she's pissed and makes herself
a target for other Republicans and for the Democrats because
oddly enough, and this is somebody I personally despised, but
you know what, she's got a point. This is a congressman,
Jasmine Crockett, who is not the smartest of the Democrat
and who is also a loudmouth and a self absorbed,
(19:32):
self centered representative and really should not be in public office.
But she is, and she'll be out soon because her
she was gerrymannered out. But she took one look at that,
and this was what Jasmin Crockett had to say about
Marjorie Tayler green cut eight.
Speaker 12 (19:46):
You know what, honestly, I was like, you've got to
be kidding me. You're on the other side of the
president for one week and you can't take the heat.
Imagine what it is to sit in my shoes, to
not only be on the opposite side of him, but
to have people like her who are constantly fanning the
flames of hate. And imagine what those threats look like
(20:06):
when you literally are someone like me. But at the
end of the day, I know that I serve the
people of Texas thirty, and so my job isn't to
be there and necessarily do whatever is going to make
the president not be on my bag, but instead is
to focus on making sure that I can push forward
with policies that are positive for Texas thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Now, Jasmine Crockett is a joke, and for a joke
to call you a joke is pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Joke is a joke.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So I think she basically she completely miscalculated. She thought
it might make her look stronger. It makes her look
like a buffoon to leave the way she did as
opposed to just not run for reelection. My only thinking is,
she's not stupid, so why would you do that? Maybe
because she's got to sign off and running for higher
office before the election, I don't know, But the you know,
she she's not the most credible person Marjorie Taylergreen, first
(20:59):
of all because she got involved q Andon. But more
than that, she tries to present herself as every man,
as a common man, as one of the people. She
comes from money. Her family owns a huge cause she's
at worth over twenty five million dollars, but she tries
to hide that she ran a construction company. Her family
is construction company before she ran for office. This is
all about power and limelight. But she said, oh, this
(21:21):
is about power line. I need to help the people,
and I can't do it if the president is mad
at me. And it's only mad at me because of
I wanted to release the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
All of which is garbage.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Not a single word of that is true.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
A lot of this has all been said, including but
not limited to Jasmine Crockett. Sadly, I have to agree
with some of what she says. So here's my thoughts.
Real quick, is one, as you said, just don't run
for reelection, just say you know what, I'm going to
take a breather. I'm going to come back into politics. Whatever,
I'm gonna run for this, I'm gonna do this. I'm
gonna do this, blah blah blah, but I'm gonna take
(21:52):
a breather. Love you all, God bless America. Here we go.
Quitting is first of all, could just imagine for one
second if every politician at every level of government just
quit when uh, I can't do anything anymore. I'm quitting.
Fight at least, you know, go in And isn't that
what politicians tell us they're gonna do. Yeah, they're gonna
(22:13):
fight for you, fight whatever they're.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Things are hard, you're not fighting when things are easy?
Speaker 13 (22:18):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh my god? Oh imagine here's a boxing match. Guy,
Guy's gonna fight Mike Tyson whatever, gets in the ring, yeah,
and gets hit once and goes, no, I'm leaving. I'm
gonna go. That's that I didn't. I didn't expect that. Listen,
I don't be a jerk. Run the term out, fight,
don't fight, but don't just quit. Drop because here, as
(22:40):
you said, she wants to run for something else. Here's
here's how I would be if I was gonna be
in her district. They're always gonna have to vote for her.
N Oh no, because I'm not gonna vote for me one.
Shame on you know you I'm not gonna vote for
someone who quits when they're going gets tough. Oh my god,
(23:00):
this is the president is mad at me and anybody. Anybody.
Look at everybody in Washington. Everybody. Everybody has a whole
lot of people, maybe half of the Washington against them.
If that's if you can't take that. Jasmine Crockett is right. Look,
she gets you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Ever think you'd hear you say that? Ever?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean ever, no, I put that back in my mouth.
Jasmine Crockett's right. Look, she like her or not. She
does get a lot of flak from from the President,
from the right and from the Republicans because well because
she's because she's Jasmine Crockett. But she's still in her job. Listen,
I'll give her that. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
She didn't she didn't run anywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
She can quit. Chuck Schumer gets a lot of flak,
he doesn't quit. Elizabeth Warren gets a lot of flats.
She doesn't quit. Donald Trump gets a ton of crap.
Could you imagine him getting up tomorrow and going.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Do this anymore?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, listen, I'm pulling Nixon right in this office, right,
I mean, come on, this is why you became a politician.
I think this is why you went to Washington to
fight when you just let as you said, take your
bat and ball and go home. Please. And I'm not
voting for you for anything else because you have shown
your true stripes. When things get tough, you leave. So leave.
(24:16):
It's fine. She's not my rep. I mean she is
because she's part of Congress, but look stupid. I just
think it's stupid.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, I do disagree. So that was a really big
moment this week. And then another big moment happened when
the sedition brew haha started to heat up again. And
if anybody doesn't remember, six congressmen and senators last week
released a video basically extorting the US military to well,
(24:47):
do this cut one on one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Our laws are clear.
Speaker 14 (24:50):
You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You must refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, so that was bad.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That was everybody Democrats included said, you don't extort the
US military to not follow, you know, orders. But and
President Trump gave a response on True Social saying sedition
and then a hyphen and then the term death penalty
question mark meaning after this is after he was a
(25:27):
diatribe against the video itself. You know that the death
penalty is listed as an a punishment for sedition in
the United States. It's on the book, says one of
the possible things that could happen to you if you
are convicted of sedition. So well, this turned into a
huge bruha with him saying, well, you know, apparently the
(25:50):
president wants to kill Democratic members of Congress. At no
point did he say let's kill Democratic members of Congress,
nor did he said that they anybody you know, should
be killed. What he's saying is that if you are
found guilty of sedition, the death penalty is on the books.
And he made this point when he was doing an
(26:10):
interview on with Brian Kilmead. Cut number one.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
You're not saying, you're not threatening them.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
A lot of people are interpreting there's a thread in
their security, right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Not threatening that, but I think they're in serious trouble.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
I would say they're in serious trouble.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm not threatening dead, but I think they're.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
In serious trouble. In the old days, it was dead.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But you know, he's just saying that's on the books
and the Department of War is now investigating one of
those senators, Mark Kelly of Arizona. He is I think
currently he's National Guard.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He was in the Navy, he.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Was an astronaut and he in fact so he was
I don't know if he was a flyer or not.
But he is currently in the National Guard. So he's
still under military jurisdiction. So the Department of Where said,
can we talk to you for a second. This was
his response, cut eleven A.
Speaker 14 (27:05):
Let me first just get your response to this threat
from the Defense Department saying that they are investigating you.
They may potentially recall you to active duty to face
a court martial.
Speaker 15 (27:17):
Well, Rachel I said something that was pretty simple and
non controversial, and that was that members of the military
should follow the law. And in response to that, Donald
Trump said I should be executed, I should be hanged,
I should be prosecuted. He even went on and said
(27:38):
something about go get them, I guess sending a mob
to round me and the other folks up. So this
is I think it says a lot more about him
than it says about me. He doesn't want accountability, But Rachel,
I'm not going to be silenced I'm not going to
be intimidating.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
First of all, the president, because you heard da video,
he never said the video doesn't at any point say
the military should follow a lot. They don't say that,
they say don't follow orders. It's a completely different thing
one too. The President has never said that Mark Kelly
should be executed, never said that anybody should be executed.
He's simply said sedition. One of those penalties is the
(28:20):
death penalty. That's all he said.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We all work in places right where where if you
do something wrong at work, right your punishment could be
anything up to and including termination. Yeah, doesn't mean just
because you do something wrong, you're going to get fired.
That same thing here, Oh, let's just kill everybody. First
of all, let me let me let me go on
record as saying this sedition itself. If we have a
(28:42):
case of sedition against a congressman or mayor or whoever,
it doesn't matter. Nobody's being executed. We can't even put
mass murderers to death in this country without a huge fight.
So let's let's let's call it out. Nobody's getting put
down for sedition, and certainly no elected official.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
They may be being called to account and I think
all of these people, these six people, including Mark Kelly,
thought that you know, going this is a tough thing,
this is a cool thing they're going to do. They're
going to tough. They're showing how much they despise the president,
except they went too far. They basically are in fact,
and you know, maybe a try or fact can disagree.
(29:22):
But I think there all of them are in trouble
because I think having a US senator saying don't follow
orders to the military is a problem. And I think
it's even sorry to occur to some of them that
there might be an issue, and so some of them
are trying to talk their way out of it now
with not much success. And one example is Democrat Senator
Alissa Slotkin.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
She was on ABC. This one did not go well
for her.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Cut thirteen A.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
Speaker 8 (29:51):
To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that
are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related
to venezue, and I think that's why.
Speaker 13 (30:01):
And be specific about that. Let me read you what
Senator Lindsey Graham said about your video. You owe it
to the men and women in the military to be
specific about what you are talking about. What these senators
and House members did was unnerving and it was unconscionable
to suggest that the President of the United States is
issuing unlawful orders without giving an example.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
So, for me, my primary concern is the use of
US military on American shores, on in our cities and
in our streets. We've seen now the courts overturn the
deployment of US military into our streets, including here in Washington, DC.
When you look at these videos coming out of places
like Chicago, it makes me incredibly nervous that we're about
(30:41):
to see people in law enforcement, people in uniform, military,
get nervous, get stressed, shoot at American civilians.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Okay, so she doesn't know where to go. She's like,
you know, she's like a rabbit in a beam of
a headline. She doesn't know which way to go, and
so she's kind of frozen in the middle. First of all, Venezuela.
Then what are you talking about? Well, okay, maybe it's
not Venezuela. Maybe it's because maybe it's possible somebody could
someday get shot. Seriously, she has no response to this.
(31:10):
They did not think this through. They were posturing and
patting each other and back going this is great, well
so much we hate Trump, and they walked right into
committing a major crime. And that's what's happened here.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I would and I'm not downplaying it. I mean, sedition
is there's rules for what sedition is and what treason
is and all this other stuff. But I look at
these clowns as rabble rousing. That's they really want to
be rabble rousers. I don't think they hate their country.
I don't think they're trying to commit sedition, but I
mean laws or laws, they were rabble rousers. But here's
(31:45):
the other thing, and this is kind of a problem
with the way the military works in this function in
my mind. Now, maybe I'm wrong, Probably am. So you
don't have to obey an illegal order. Here's the thing
about saying that out loud, or even even having it
as a rule. Look, there's a lot of very, very
(32:06):
very smart people in the military, but not every person
in the military, on a drop of a hat, is
able to identify a legal or illegal order. And here's
the problem. If we start letting soldiers just willy nilly
disobey orders because they think they're illegal. Then what we
(32:27):
take them to court and then we say, oh, a
judge says it wasn't illegal, so you now get court marked.
I mean it is kind of a strange dynamic. I
get it. Look, if your a commanding officer comes up
to you and says, hey, listen, I want you to
take your gun going to town tonight and shoot that
woman over there in the head and kill her. That, sir,
that's an illegal order. Some things are obvious. But to
just come out and tell listen, don't obey these illegal orders.
(32:50):
Well which ones are illegal? Because not trust me, not
every person in the military knows every single solitary order.
That's if you'll get If your CEO comes in and says, hey,
we're going to blow up that chip over there because
the drug runners from Venezuela. What are you going to do? No,
let's have a trial first and let's figure it out. No,
So it does get into a humongous gray area. And
as anybody who's been in war will tell you, you
(33:12):
wait one extra second and people die. And so it is.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It is.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
There's a bit of an underlying issue there. Maybe some
military court would explain it to me. But they're not calling.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Sots no no, so yeah, So it's there's a lot
of things and everybody's played. As we go into the holidays,
I have to say, I know we end every week
with the truth control. This week is no different. This one,
as I as I mentioned earlier, is from the Trump
Zorn Mom Donnie Oval office date. It looked like it was,
(33:46):
you know, first meeting, a Tinder meeting, like a Tinder
meeting exactly. So this is President Trump talking about, you know,
how how wonderful it's going to be to have Mom
Donnie as a mayor? Cut eleven.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Would you feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Living in New York City under adds.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah I would, I wrote, especially after the meeting. Absolutely,
what makes you comfortable? We agree on a lot more
than I would have thought. I think he's I want
him to do a great job, and we'll help him
do a great job. You know, he may have different views,
but in many ways. You know, we were discussing when
Bernie Sanders was out of the race. I picked up
a lot of his votes and people had no idea
because he was strong on not getting ripped off in
(34:26):
trade and lots of the things that I've practiced and
have been very successful on tariffs, a lot of things.
Bernie Sanders and I agreed on much more than people thought,
and when he was put out of the race, I
think quite unfairly, if you want an the truth, many
of the Bernie Sanders voters voted for me, and I
felt very comfortable, frankly, and seeing that and saying that,
(34:47):
and you know, it just turned out to be a
statistical truth.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
But no, I feel very comfortable. I would be.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I would feel very very comfortable being in New York,
and I think much more so after a meeting.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So the question is, does he really feel comfortable of
being in New York. Don't don't forget now, mom. Donnie
has said that he wants to basically hunt down billionaires
and take all their money. So Donald Trump is a billionaire,
and so if he's still in New York, he's going
to be one of those people who's hunted down and
taken away their money. So is Donald Trump really feel
saying he feels comfortable or is he just trolling because
(35:22):
he's you know, he's the master manipulator.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Well, I don't know. I think well, I think Trump
says he would feel comfortable because he's Donald Trump, and
I think he'd find a way to make himself be
very comfortable in New York, and maybe more so than
than a middle class person or an upper middle class
person might feel. Look, it's his town. I mean, Donald
Trump is a New Yorker and so I think he
(35:46):
would feel comfortable there. Let's see what. Here's the thing
about this, right mont Donnie got elected. Everybody, the people
who were against him, he's a socialist, he's this, he's
a fascist. I mean he's a communist. Blah blah blah
blah blah. Okay, fine, listen, he's been elected, he's met
with the president. The President seems comfortable with him. He's
going to become mayor, and then he's going to start
(36:06):
his rule. Let's see what he does. Because if he
does pull towards the center, and he does act like
we think he did when he talked to Trump in
the in the Oval office, then I think I think
Trump will be comfortable there. If he goes the other
direction and runs New York off the cliff, I think
Donald Trump will changes to him.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, but that's not the that's not the question. The question, Well,
do you think do you think, do you think Donald.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Trump is I think I think he's truthing right now.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I don't think so. I think he's trolling. I think
he's being polite and trolling. I think he control when
you're polite.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think, sure you do. But I think I think
he's truthing now. But let's see what the truth becomes
in six months or nine months, It'll be a different questions.
That's right. That's why I think it's truth.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Who's true thing? So we Disagreele's see if you agree
with Ben or myself, you can let us know on
x at news by three or on Facebook at news by.
You can check back next Monday because we upload a
new episode every single Monday.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Have a great week and.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
A wonderful Thanksgiving because that's we're going into Thanksgiving at
the time of this taping. Have a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
This is the Auty Shack. Have a wonderful Christmas too,
because that's coming. I guess I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
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