January 3, 2025 • 19 mins
Jacob and James explore the intricacies of language in film and the challenges actors face when learning new languages for roles. They delve into the controversy surrounding Selena Gomez's Spanish performance in "Emilia Perez" and discuss the broader topic of how fluent actors need to be when portraying characters with different linguistic backgrounds. The duo also shares anecdotes about famous actors like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Salma Hayek, who overcame language barriers to succeed in Hollywood. With a touch of humor, they examine the industry's expectations and the ongoing debate about authenticity versus acting prowess.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Last year on the Go, what Shannon Sharp says, my
man came in on team Shannon Sharp says, from the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
He came in that the building. He definitely had some
stuff to say.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, I think he said he started talking as soon
as he got set. Yeah, like thirty minutes of like stuff.
They could have he should have been filming, but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
They didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I was like, they got a plan.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They have to have a plan, They have to have plans.
What you said, I remember that. Yeah. I mean we
had a whole argument about this.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And that wasn't denial. That was that was me genuinely thinking,
you're gonna do a Madam Web movie, you had to
have plan, have a plan for this has been a character. Yeah,
she's a very She's a supporting character.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
She is supporting.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And like, I actually found her biography so I can
tell you a little bit about it. About it right
tells rights. So her name is Cassandra Webb. So they
got that right. At least I could have came and
defended it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I could.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I I really thought about coming on the podcast and
just like I'm gonna I'm going to what.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
If I did?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What if I just committed to the bit and was like,
you know, James, there was.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No way you could because you know why this movie
puts you in such a pickle in conunds.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know, it is so this movie is so baffling.
It baffles me. It baffles me, It really does, because it's.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just diddy sick once again.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
See I had an idea and he doesn't. He doesn't
think he can do it. I know he could do it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I told him.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I was like, Joel, this is the podcast idea. You
call it Joel and the Monkey. You just rant and
talk about whatever the hell you want to talk about.
And I got the I got these buttons on the
soundboard and I can just load up monkey sounds and
every now and then I'll hit a monkey sound and
that'll indicate to you or to you either switch the
subject or you know, maybe the monkey's mad at you
(01:36):
or whatever. It's just like you have happy noises, you
have sad noises. I'll just I'll just be the monkey
like every time and you'll be like, what do you
think about that monkey? And I'll just hit the button.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Hey, guys, is the Joel and the Monkey Show.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
I am Joel and my hairy co host is the
monkey go ahead and say hi, Yeah, if you can
put the mike a little away.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
From your face yet, No, you know it's fine.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's my response. I was like, you can carry a
show by yourself. He could, he could do it, but
he swears up and down. He's like a co host
and he needs to do like I need a gust
and we can do a thing where it's like me
and the monk you're talking to the guests.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I was like, no, you just it was like, this
guy is amazing. Man, this guy's he's what's call it,
he's an arcissist. He's an arcisst to say the least,
he was an narcissist. Yeah, so I say all that
the same by oj have.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You ever a raw dog on a plane before?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, explain, explain Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I was hoping for a bigger Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I was like, what is going on here? Because aliens
raw dog? And I'm like, man, this is he killed me, Jake.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It says dear James. I hear you with a written
as a letter.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You got you.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I hear you show recently and did not like how
you spook of Denny's. It's a it's a good place,
unlike I hob or back to I hop since they
changed the name again, you best stopped talking mess about Denny's.
Sincerely Joel. And it's written with a jumbo.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Crown with a jumbo crowd, and I like how it's
scribbled a couple of times, so you don't know the name,
but it went one, two and then joe. Yeah, so
that's how you know that it's somebody.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Hi Ola, wait out fears on shore and a good
old cowboy howie. My name is Dick rightious, and I'm
here to take you on the wonderful journey to learn
about the rich, illustrious business.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Got a Denny's ash train, oh with the ash is
still in it?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah? Still nice?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Nice that In fact, it actually it actually looks like
it says Darryl's, but they scratched out on a real
Denny's on it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You can see the paintings and you can see the
paint jab.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
There's a Denny's bumper sticker here and great, I'll put
that on my car. That'll that'll be.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Na guarantee you will not put your I can promise
my life on it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
There's a there's a Denny's restroom door handle you get
you know, one side of a pancake, the other is
a waffle. I don't really know which one is occupied
or or vacant.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh, I'm good on it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And uh oh here here's.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
The ladies and Gentleman is friends.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The one hund of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And then they were like, bro, you got to fix this,
and he said, I'll never forget this.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He said, I don't know what that is. I'm like,
how do you not know what the sound is? What
the ringing sound is? Bro?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And then they were laughing because it's like, how.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Do you do you not know? They told him you
don't like what is that?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's like some wild frequency? Like you got to you
gotta find that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And he's like, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I was like, oh my god, what.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He probably just he just lived there or something.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You do they give you guys, like rehearsal times and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It comes like, hey, you want to hear the sound track?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well we were supposed to at that show. I didn't
do it. I was get my makeup done, so I
don't know, but it doesn't matter. He'll mess it up.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Regardless, he'll probably just fall asleep on the damn fader
or something.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, you know, I'm kind of happy now.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I'm kind of happing that one because it makes me
feel a bit better.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, A three two, come on on the go the
twenty twenty five. Well, James, it's it's the new year.
(06:32):
Made it to the New Year, and we're recording this
from the past.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, Yeah, we're a little back in the future.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, we do want to back to the future bit,
that's what we're doing. Obviously, we're off this week. We
are both probably recovering from New Year's Eve and Christmas
and the holidays and whatnot. So I found a bit
of drama that I thought we could talk about, sorry,
starting the new year.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, what you got?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So we we mentioned it before. I mentioned it when
we talked about the Golden Globes a couple of weeks.
Fact that Selena Gomez was in this movie called Amelia Perez.
She was nominated for some awards. Golden Globes is coming out,
so we'll see if she wins anything for that. But
she did Spanish, right, she had to relearned Spanish for
this role. Okay, and I guess like her Spanish wasn't
(07:19):
that good because she obviously Selena Gomez is an Hispanic actress,
but she kind of gave up Spanish when she was
like seven because she joined Disney Channel and then like
it was primarily English, and yeah, it makes sense her
career blew up from there and whatever and whatnot. But
so she relearned Spanish for this role. Apparently Spanish was
(07:42):
not very good. And some other actor who wasn't even
in the movie James by the way, just some other
dude watching this film. Let me get his name for you.
Eugeno Eugeno Drbez. I guess he's a big Spanish actor.
But he was watching it with some friends and he
did a he was on a Spanish podcast and he
(08:04):
made the comment that her Spanish was bad. Selena is indefensible.
He said, I was there watching the movie with people,
and every time a scene came with her in it,
we looked at each other to say, wow, what is this? Right,
So he just like trash her all over this podcast. Right, Okay,
So Selena Gomez actually had a very nice response to it,
(08:26):
or like, you know, not not a crappy response, but
she was just like Hey, look, I'm I'm sorry. I
tried my best, like with the time that I had.
You know, I gave up I had, I gave a
Spanish a long time ago, and I'm trying to relearn
it and all this other stuff. So a couple of
weeks go by or a couple of days go by,
and the dude comes out and like apologizes for it.
But it kind of brings up this conversation of how
(08:51):
fluent should someone be when they pursue a role?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like should when you when when you do a role
with another language? Like should you be completely fluent or
an accent? Yeah, we're an accent? Like what what's the
stipulations here? And actually I had found like a pretty
good list of like a bunch of actors who learned
Spanish specifically for or not Spanish, but learned English specifically
(09:16):
for roles like Spanish actors or other other actors of
other other ethnicities. Right, so you know, I mean off
the top of your head, you could probably named Arnold Schwarzenegger,
who was an immigrant from Austria.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Oh yeah, and you know he.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
He ended up learning English and becoming an actor. I
think you know, his first couple of movies, it was
like real broken English. I think Terminator his English probably
wasn't really that great back then.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's why he didn't have so many talking lines in
the first one.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right, you know he still he still has a heavy
accent too, so it never really went away.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Jackie Chan yep, take his hands. Another one. Jet Lee
is another one, Jet Lee.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You got a bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
An Armis is kind of a more famous actress these days,
and Joel was telling me about her, but back when,
back when she was in I think her first film
was like war Dogs or one of her first movies
were war Dogs, and back then she didn't know English.
James actually like the way she would learn English is
like she would just learn the script, like she would
learn how to like speak phonetically the words, and that's
(10:19):
how That's how she got through it for a while.
And then they ended up finding out that she didn't
know English because she they changed the lines, they changed
the lines of the script, and then when they would
do the scene, she was still saying the same lines.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh wow, So they were like they kind of got it.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, they were like, hey, what the heck.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, it kind of kind of changes up on it
as they got you.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, and so eventually she ended up learning English officially
because obviously they were like, hey, look if you if
you can't learn the lines, we can't have you in
this movie.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah, it happens a lot with
certain people, even you know, when you're doing people from
America that's doing accents. Just saw with Napoleon where Jakin
fans didn't even try. He didn't even try to have
any Oh I heard about that, said the hell with
it and just spoke straight English.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
As much as we love Deals of Washington Gladiator, he
had no accent. Denzel, Yeah, You'reret Denzil.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, So, I mean you can do it, but preferably
you want you want somebody who can speak the language,
just like you preferably want somebody that is gay to
play a gay role instead of just happening a straight person,
but play a gay.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Role, right because they can.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
They're already in that mindset, they're already living that life.
They can be that character a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It helped, It does help the acting process, but again,
at the end of the day, it is acting.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, it's acting too. So as long.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
As you can act well and you can pull it
off and you can make people think like, oh, yeah,
that's a Spanish person or that's a French person or whatever.
Like there's a bunch of actors who had to learn
like French and Swedish and all kinds of things. Yeah,
and uh, back to the Selena Gomez thing. Apparently viewers
of the film had made the comment that Selena Gomez's
(12:09):
character in that movie is she's playing a woman from
the States who moved to like a Spanish speech and
speaking country. Right, So they they made the comment that
because that's her character and in the film, like, yeah,
maybe her Spanish isn't great, but also she's playing an
American woman speaking Spanish.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, so it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, so it made it actually made sense to people
who watched the film who actually paid attention to like
where the character is from and stuff. Comma is Yeah,
so I think the guy just kind of was talking
out of his butt for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And then see this is this is another case of
just people just talking, you know, just just fake outrage.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Or just like these older actors who were crapping on
the younger actors, you know, just that animosity that just
because the.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Industry, I had never heard his story until you, so
you brought it to the table, because that's trust me
that that is not the biggest story that's out here
in Hollywood right now. So it's just I did not
know that that was even nothing. So it sounded like
a nothing burger. And this guy just wants to get
his five seconds of publicity and the transces girl for
doing the movie that you know, he clearly did not
(13:21):
see for the end, the light and the right lenses.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right, And I mean it again, the drama is the drama,
and it's it seems like I got squished pretty quickly.
And the more interesting, the more interesting part from it
is like, oh, how many other actors had to learn
English or how many other actors like have to learn
another language when they do films like Penelope Cruz. You
know Penelope Cruz, famous Spanish actress. She also does like
a bunch of English movies. Very good actress, and she
(13:49):
learned English the same way, just learning the phonetics of
her scripts, like the same way that Anna d Armis
did you know. More recently, Penelope Cruz was one of
the original people to do it. Her first English langue
movie was High Low Country in nineteen ninety eight, and
she has a reveal that, due to her limited ability
in the language, she learned her lines in the script
by memorizing the sound of each word.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's impressive. Nonetheless, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, like, oh, I didn't even learn the language. I
just learned how the words sounded and repeated that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, I guess they just when that money that money
started coming in, kind of learn how to do a
lot of things. Yeah, it's you only want to act
in how they woodlish.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Selma Hayak, you know, very famous actress. She's had a
very successful career. She was in a bunch of films.
Now she's doing a bunch of TV series. I think
she was in Modern Family for a long time. She's
obviously in Dogma and like some older older films.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, high, I mean that's Sophia.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Forgard was the thing. Maybe I get them too mixed
up a lot, that's my bad, Sema.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Heck, maybe let me check. Do you use that Modern Family?
Speaker 6 (14:59):
That was?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Like, you mean, yeah, man, I really do mix those
names up quite a bit. Yeah, those are wildly different people.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I mean, I'm pretty sure both of them are the
struggles with English too, so it's not surprising.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, hang on, let me find the story because I
found it just the other day when I was researching this.
Damn I was. I was all geared up and ready
to go with that one. Yeah, there was, yeah Samahayak.
Basically when she was first one in English, she also
had dyslexia where she has Yeah. Yeah, so it says
(15:32):
when some Maa Haiak arrived in Los Angeles from Mexico
at age twenty five, she could barely read a street signs.
She spoke almost no English, and having struggled with dyslexia
or her whole life, she knew that learning a language
would be a challenge. Basically, when she got roles, she
was turned down from some roles because they told her
that like her accent reminds people of housekeepers, housekeepers or
(15:53):
something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Damn yeah, very racist.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, that was like, I think her first couple of
rolls she got shot down because they're like, oh, you're
you're reminding audiences of like their maids and stuff. Yeah,
don't talk about old time Hollywood. Yeah, but I mean
obviously she overcame it and became a became a famous
actress and playing in a bunch of movies and TV
shows and whatnot as well. I can't believe I got
(16:20):
her mixed up with freaking Sophia Vergara.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I mean both of them hid, So let's get
that o the way. You know, both of us just
just probably have the same topic deal.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah that's true. Yeah, I imagine so yeah, but yeah,
I mean loads of actresses, you know, go through this.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I didn't know about this story until you til you
brought it to the table this morning.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean the dramas whatever. I find it more
interesting and like looking into like who's learning what for what?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And again it goes, it goes, and it goes back
to you know, how well can you pull it off?
You know, like if if you can pull off well
enough and if you can act very well, no one's
gonna notice.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, no one's gonna notice.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Or you know, if you just don't give a damn
and you just say, hey, I'm just gonna do an
American accent and not go with the peace period that
is in that time, then yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, Denzel.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well Joaquin phoenix.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Did he did? He sound just like Joaquin Phoenixes he's
got a very like I guess, not like unique voice.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But his he sounded just like he sounded just like him.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
He's got a high register, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, First of all, he was too tall. Then he
was I'm sorry with that. He had no accent while
everyone else had a French accent.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
That's that's funny. I didn't even try exact why that
movie bomb too?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, major, major historical film. No no accent, no, no
short Napoleon.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's why that movie bomb.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Wasn't it like three hours long too?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It was a long movie just about jeez one movies.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, I don't know why they keep trying to like
make these movies so long.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Ninety minutes, give me ninety minutes. I think Brutalis is
like four hours long.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Jeez yeah, I think it's gonna have This is gonna
be the first movie to have that intermission.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It so allegedly it's supposed to have intermission.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
What was that movie that came out on Netflix a
few years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
About the Little with Mark Rsese?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, Robert de Niro movie. Yeah, that was like four
hours or something.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, that was four hours long too. But I mean,
you're at home, so you can kind of break it up.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Didn't they break it down to episodes to just make
it more than adjustable.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, they just may just had one whole movie they did.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Just break it up, and just break it up yourself,
cut it off where you want to cut it off,
and watch how you want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, okay, that's all we have for today. Thank you
for listening, and if you would like to join the conversation,
you can email us at On the Go Pod twenty
twenty three at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You can also find us on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube
at All the Go with Jacob and James.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You can find James on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I'm at James NAE seven now four.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You can find me on Instagram at Jacob Dantones dot Audio.
James is on the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Go, Jacob's on the go. We are all along the gom.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Mm hmmmm mm hmmmmmm
Speaker 1 (19:38):
H
Last year on the Go, what Shannon Sharp says, my
man came in on team Shannon Sharp says, from the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
He came in that the building. He definitely had some
stuff to say.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, I think he said he started talking as soon
as he got set. Yeah, like thirty minutes of like stuff.
They could have he should have been filming, but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
They didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I was like, they got a plan.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They have to have a plan, They have to have plans.
What you said, I remember that. Yeah. I mean we
had a whole argument about this.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And that wasn't denial. That was that was me genuinely thinking,
you're gonna do a Madam Web movie, you had to
have plan, have a plan for this has been a character. Yeah,
she's a very She's a supporting character.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
She is supporting.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And like, I actually found her biography so I can
tell you a little bit about it. About it right
tells rights. So her name is Cassandra Webb. So they
got that right. At least I could have came and
defended it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I could.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I I really thought about coming on the podcast and
just like I'm gonna I'm going to what.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
If I did?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What if I just committed to the bit and was like,
you know, James, there was.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No way you could because you know why this movie
puts you in such a pickle in conunds.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know, it is so this movie is so baffling.
It baffles me. It baffles me, It really does, because it's.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just diddy sick once again.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
See I had an idea and he doesn't. He doesn't
think he can do it. I know he could do it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I told him.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I was like, Joel, this is the podcast idea. You
call it Joel and the Monkey. You just rant and
talk about whatever the hell you want to talk about.
And I got the I got these buttons on the
soundboard and I can just load up monkey sounds and
every now and then I'll hit a monkey sound and
that'll indicate to you or to you either switch the
subject or you know, maybe the monkey's mad at you
(01:36):
or whatever. It's just like you have happy noises, you
have sad noises. I'll just I'll just be the monkey
like every time and you'll be like, what do you
think about that monkey? And I'll just hit the button.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Hey, guys, is the Joel and the Monkey Show.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
I am Joel and my hairy co host is the
monkey go ahead and say hi, Yeah, if you can
put the mike a little away.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
From your face yet, No, you know it's fine.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's my response. I was like, you can carry a
show by yourself. He could, he could do it, but
he swears up and down. He's like a co host
and he needs to do like I need a gust
and we can do a thing where it's like me
and the monk you're talking to the guests.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I was like, no, you just it was like, this
guy is amazing. Man, this guy's he's what's call it,
he's an arcissist. He's an arcisst to say the least,
he was an narcissist. Yeah, so I say all that
the same by oj have.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You ever a raw dog on a plane before?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
No, explain, explain Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I was hoping for a bigger Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I was like, what is going on here? Because aliens
raw dog? And I'm like, man, this is he killed me, Jake.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It says dear James. I hear you with a written
as a letter.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You got you.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I hear you show recently and did not like how
you spook of Denny's. It's a it's a good place,
unlike I hob or back to I hop since they
changed the name again, you best stopped talking mess about Denny's.
Sincerely Joel. And it's written with a jumbo.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Crown with a jumbo crowd, and I like how it's
scribbled a couple of times, so you don't know the name,
but it went one, two and then joe. Yeah, so
that's how you know that it's somebody.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Hi Ola, wait out fears on shore and a good
old cowboy howie. My name is Dick rightious, and I'm
here to take you on the wonderful journey to learn
about the rich, illustrious business.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Got a Denny's ash train, oh with the ash is
still in it?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah? Still nice?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Nice that In fact, it actually it actually looks like
it says Darryl's, but they scratched out on a real
Denny's on it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You can see the paintings and you can see the
paint jab.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
There's a Denny's bumper sticker here and great, I'll put
that on my car. That'll that'll be.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Na guarantee you will not put your I can promise
my life on it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
There's a there's a Denny's restroom door handle you get
you know, one side of a pancake, the other is
a waffle. I don't really know which one is occupied
or or vacant.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh, I'm good on it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And uh oh here here's.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
The ladies and Gentleman is friends.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The one hund of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And then they were like, bro, you got to fix this,
and he said, I'll never forget this.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He said, I don't know what that is. I'm like,
how do you not know what the sound is? What
the ringing sound is? Bro?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And then they were laughing because it's like, how.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Do you do you not know? They told him you
don't like what is that?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's like some wild frequency? Like you got to you
gotta find that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And he's like, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I was like, oh my god, what.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He probably just he just lived there or something.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You do they give you guys, like rehearsal times and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It comes like, hey, you want to hear the sound track?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well we were supposed to at that show. I didn't
do it. I was get my makeup done, so I
don't know, but it doesn't matter. He'll mess it up.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Regardless, he'll probably just fall asleep on the damn fader
or something.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, you know, I'm kind of happy now.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I'm kind of happing that one because it makes me
feel a bit better.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, A three two, come on on the go the
twenty twenty five. Well, James, it's it's the new year.
(06:32):
Made it to the New Year, and we're recording this
from the past.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, Yeah, we're a little back in the future.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, we do want to back to the future bit,
that's what we're doing. Obviously, we're off this week. We
are both probably recovering from New Year's Eve and Christmas
and the holidays and whatnot. So I found a bit
of drama that I thought we could talk about, sorry,
starting the new year.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, what you got?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So we we mentioned it before. I mentioned it when
we talked about the Golden Globes a couple of weeks.
Fact that Selena Gomez was in this movie called Amelia Perez.
She was nominated for some awards. Golden Globes is coming out,
so we'll see if she wins anything for that. But
she did Spanish, right, she had to relearned Spanish for
this role. Okay, and I guess like her Spanish wasn't
(07:19):
that good because she obviously Selena Gomez is an Hispanic actress,
but she kind of gave up Spanish when she was
like seven because she joined Disney Channel and then like
it was primarily English, and yeah, it makes sense her
career blew up from there and whatever and whatnot. But
so she relearned Spanish for this role. Apparently Spanish was
(07:42):
not very good. And some other actor who wasn't even
in the movie James by the way, just some other
dude watching this film. Let me get his name for you.
Eugeno Eugeno Drbez. I guess he's a big Spanish actor.
But he was watching it with some friends and he
did a he was on a Spanish podcast and he
(08:04):
made the comment that her Spanish was bad. Selena is indefensible.
He said, I was there watching the movie with people,
and every time a scene came with her in it,
we looked at each other to say, wow, what is this? Right,
So he just like trash her all over this podcast. Right, Okay,
So Selena Gomez actually had a very nice response to it,
(08:26):
or like, you know, not not a crappy response, but
she was just like Hey, look, I'm I'm sorry. I
tried my best, like with the time that I had.
You know, I gave up I had, I gave a
Spanish a long time ago, and I'm trying to relearn
it and all this other stuff. So a couple of
weeks go by or a couple of days go by,
and the dude comes out and like apologizes for it.
But it kind of brings up this conversation of how
(08:51):
fluent should someone be when they pursue a role?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like should when you when when you do a role
with another language? Like should you be completely fluent or
an accent? Yeah, we're an accent? Like what what's the
stipulations here? And actually I had found like a pretty
good list of like a bunch of actors who learned
Spanish specifically for or not Spanish, but learned English specifically
(09:16):
for roles like Spanish actors or other other actors of
other other ethnicities. Right, so you know, I mean off
the top of your head, you could probably named Arnold Schwarzenegger,
who was an immigrant from Austria.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Oh yeah, and you know he.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
He ended up learning English and becoming an actor. I
think you know, his first couple of movies, it was
like real broken English. I think Terminator his English probably
wasn't really that great back then.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's why he didn't have so many talking lines in
the first one.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right, you know he still he still has a heavy
accent too, so it never really went away.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Jackie Chan yep, take his hands. Another one. Jet Lee
is another one, Jet Lee.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You got a bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
An Armis is kind of a more famous actress these days,
and Joel was telling me about her, but back when,
back when she was in I think her first film
was like war Dogs or one of her first movies
were war Dogs, and back then she didn't know English.
James actually like the way she would learn English is
like she would just learn the script, like she would
learn how to like speak phonetically the words, and that's
(10:19):
how That's how she got through it for a while.
And then they ended up finding out that she didn't
know English because she they changed the lines, they changed
the lines of the script, and then when they would
do the scene, she was still saying the same lines.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh wow, So they were like they kind of got it.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, they were like, hey, what the heck.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, it kind of kind of changes up on it
as they got you.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, and so eventually she ended up learning English officially
because obviously they were like, hey, look if you if
you can't learn the lines, we can't have you in
this movie.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah, it happens a lot with
certain people, even you know, when you're doing people from
America that's doing accents. Just saw with Napoleon where Jakin
fans didn't even try. He didn't even try to have
any Oh I heard about that, said the hell with
it and just spoke straight English.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
As much as we love Deals of Washington Gladiator, he
had no accent. Denzel, Yeah, You'reret Denzil.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, So, I mean you can do it, but preferably
you want you want somebody who can speak the language,
just like you preferably want somebody that is gay to
play a gay role instead of just happening a straight person,
but play a gay.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Role, right because they can.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
They're already in that mindset, they're already living that life.
They can be that character a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It helped, It does help the acting process, but again,
at the end of the day, it is acting.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, it's acting too. So as long.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
As you can act well and you can pull it
off and you can make people think like, oh, yeah,
that's a Spanish person or that's a French person or whatever.
Like there's a bunch of actors who had to learn
like French and Swedish and all kinds of things. Yeah,
and uh, back to the Selena Gomez thing. Apparently viewers
of the film had made the comment that Selena Gomez's
(12:09):
character in that movie is she's playing a woman from
the States who moved to like a Spanish speech and
speaking country. Right, So they they made the comment that
because that's her character and in the film, like, yeah,
maybe her Spanish isn't great, but also she's playing an
American woman speaking Spanish.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, so it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, so it made it actually made sense to people
who watched the film who actually paid attention to like
where the character is from and stuff. Comma is Yeah,
so I think the guy just kind of was talking
out of his butt for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And then see this is this is another case of
just people just talking, you know, just just fake outrage.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Or just like these older actors who were crapping on
the younger actors, you know, just that animosity that just
because the.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Industry, I had never heard his story until you, so
you brought it to the table, because that's trust me
that that is not the biggest story that's out here
in Hollywood right now. So it's just I did not
know that that was even nothing. So it sounded like
a nothing burger. And this guy just wants to get
his five seconds of publicity and the transces girl for
doing the movie that you know, he clearly did not
(13:21):
see for the end, the light and the right lenses.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right, And I mean it again, the drama is the drama,
and it's it seems like I got squished pretty quickly.
And the more interesting, the more interesting part from it
is like, oh, how many other actors had to learn
English or how many other actors like have to learn
another language when they do films like Penelope Cruz. You
know Penelope Cruz, famous Spanish actress. She also does like
a bunch of English movies. Very good actress, and she
(13:49):
learned English the same way, just learning the phonetics of
her scripts, like the same way that Anna d Armis
did you know. More recently, Penelope Cruz was one of
the original people to do it. Her first English langue
movie was High Low Country in nineteen ninety eight, and
she has a reveal that, due to her limited ability
in the language, she learned her lines in the script
by memorizing the sound of each word.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's impressive. Nonetheless, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, like, oh, I didn't even learn the language. I
just learned how the words sounded and repeated that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, I guess they just when that money that money
started coming in, kind of learn how to do a
lot of things. Yeah, it's you only want to act
in how they woodlish.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Selma Hayak, you know, very famous actress. She's had a
very successful career. She was in a bunch of films.
Now she's doing a bunch of TV series. I think
she was in Modern Family for a long time. She's
obviously in Dogma and like some older older films.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, high, I mean that's Sophia.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Forgard was the thing. Maybe I get them too mixed
up a lot, that's my bad, Sema.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Heck, maybe let me check. Do you use that Modern Family?
Speaker 6 (14:59):
That was?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Like, you mean, yeah, man, I really do mix those
names up quite a bit. Yeah, those are wildly different people.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I mean, I'm pretty sure both of them are the
struggles with English too, so it's not surprising.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, hang on, let me find the story because I
found it just the other day when I was researching this.
Damn I was. I was all geared up and ready
to go with that one. Yeah, there was, yeah Samahayak.
Basically when she was first one in English, she also
had dyslexia where she has Yeah. Yeah, so it says
(15:32):
when some Maa Haiak arrived in Los Angeles from Mexico
at age twenty five, she could barely read a street signs.
She spoke almost no English, and having struggled with dyslexia
or her whole life, she knew that learning a language
would be a challenge. Basically, when she got roles, she
was turned down from some roles because they told her
that like her accent reminds people of housekeepers, housekeepers or
(15:53):
something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Damn yeah, very racist.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, that was like, I think her first couple of
rolls she got shot down because they're like, oh, you're
you're reminding audiences of like their maids and stuff. Yeah,
don't talk about old time Hollywood. Yeah, but I mean
obviously she overcame it and became a became a famous
actress and playing in a bunch of movies and TV
shows and whatnot as well. I can't believe I got
(16:20):
her mixed up with freaking Sophia Vergara.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I mean both of them hid, So let's get
that o the way. You know, both of us just
just probably have the same topic deal.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah that's true. Yeah, I imagine so yeah, but yeah,
I mean loads of actresses, you know, go through this.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I didn't know about this story until you til you
brought it to the table this morning.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean the dramas whatever. I find it more
interesting and like looking into like who's learning what for what?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And again it goes, it goes, and it goes back
to you know, how well can you pull it off?
You know, like if if you can pull off well
enough and if you can act very well, no one's
gonna notice.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, no one's gonna notice.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Or you know, if you just don't give a damn
and you just say, hey, I'm just gonna do an
American accent and not go with the peace period that
is in that time, then yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, Denzel.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well Joaquin phoenix.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Did he did? He sound just like Joaquin Phoenixes he's
got a very like I guess, not like unique voice.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But his he sounded just like he sounded just like him.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
He's got a high register, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, First of all, he was too tall. Then he
was I'm sorry with that. He had no accent while
everyone else had a French accent.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
That's that's funny. I didn't even try exact why that
movie bomb too?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, major, major historical film. No no accent, no, no
short Napoleon.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's why that movie bomb.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Wasn't it like three hours long too?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It was a long movie just about jeez one movies.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, I don't know why they keep trying to like
make these movies so long.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Ninety minutes, give me ninety minutes. I think Brutalis is
like four hours long.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Jeez yeah, I think it's gonna have This is gonna
be the first movie to have that intermission.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It so allegedly it's supposed to have intermission.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
What was that movie that came out on Netflix a
few years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
About the Little with Mark Rsese?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, Robert de Niro movie. Yeah, that was like four
hours or something.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, that was four hours long too. But I mean,
you're at home, so you can kind of break it up.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Didn't they break it down to episodes to just make
it more than adjustable.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, they just may just had one whole movie they did.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Just break it up, and just break it up yourself,
cut it off where you want to cut it off,
and watch how you want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, okay, that's all we have for today. Thank you
for listening, and if you would like to join the conversation,
you can email us at On the Go Pod twenty
twenty three at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You can also find us on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube
at All the Go with Jacob and James.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You can find James on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I'm at James NAE seven now four.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You can find me on Instagram at Jacob Dantones dot Audio.
James is on the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Go, Jacob's on the go. We are all along the gom.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Mm hmmmm mm hmmmmmm
Speaker 1 (19:38):
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