117. Sonic 3, Mufasa, Nosferatu

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Happy birthday, James.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
What Happy birthday, James.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
There's some potass for your both.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jay, It's gonna be up one day because.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's it's like a real song. That's sad part. But
I know, right, that's that's scary party. But that's not
a real song.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, that that's that's the upsetting thing about a I
but I had to do it.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I had to.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I had to make a song.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
If you would have told me, I would have thought
that was Joel. I thought would have thought, you just
put some stuff on top.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Of Oh god, no, no, not that goodly.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
If I something Joel would do.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I mean if I if I told him in time,
he probably would have recorded something true. But uh, happy birthday?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Said it? Man, Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're welcome. We are. We're back for twenty twenty five.
We've back for a real recording in twenty twenty five.
That is all right. The Onnigo show has returned. And yeah, man,
how how was your holidays?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I was sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'll just alloted a lot of watching and stuff like that,
watching TV and watch some movies.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
You watch anything interesting other than the two things we're
gonna talk about later.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Did I?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I want to say I didn't, but you know, because
we're wrong about the holiday time was kind of like
a lot of sport watching. So I watched a lot
of sports. So it was just a lot of playoffs
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Did you watch the was it the Texans? It was
a Christmas Day the Texans on Netflix?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh that was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, that was that was a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Imagine paying for those tickets and just want to see
Beyonce and that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh yeah, I'll say what we want to do it.
I didn't let it and watched the game. Hey, hey
like that. I would think I was watching the movie,
but I saw like the highlights. Yeah, you know, it
was interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm not a big fan, Like I don't listen to
Beyonce's music obviously, but I do appreciate the time and
energy she puts into putting a show on.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh yeah, So I definitely appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Because, like, I don't know, she puts a lot of
work in it, like she always she's always got a
marching band. I noticed, like, yeah, he's always got some
sort of marching band with her, And I don't know,
it was a great performance, like she had what Shaboozie
and post Malone joined her I think because real yeah, well,
because like you know, they all have a country song.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Now, I ain't no Postmon I had, I defin would
have been here, folks.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I love Postmone Yeah he yeah, he showed up for
one of her songs and the Shahboozie was there, and
then well post my mom was apparently and I guess
like in Houston, you know, that week or that weekend
or whatever, because like the night before or on Christmas Eve,
I think he left like a waitress, like a twenty
thousand dollars tip. Oh okay, yeah, that was a big
story I saw recently, so I go he was probably

(03:00):
in for the Beyond the Beyonce Bowl as they call it,
because yeah, they're like they had they were given out
wristbands with like Beyonce Bowl written on. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
What it was, right? Yeah? The football game. The really
won't much of football.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, the whole the football game was pretty bad. So
my my family came over for Christmas. They came to visit.
We we hosted Christmas for them, and that was the
first time, like I watched a live thing on Netflix
because I refuse, I don't know, to give into the
Netflix Live Things.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh well, he only owned I was w w Raw.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, no, you know about w w Raw. The only
highlights I've seen from that are whole Cogan getting booed.
And then it was like Netflix has just been putting
out a bunch of photos of all the celebrities they
paid to be there. It's like McCaulay colchin and the
Boy Meets World cast.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I mean, I think this one, this episode in particular,
was pretty much for the investors and the sponsors, right,
And I think next week they'll get back to actually,
you know, wrestling and giving those good stories, you know,
getting back to continueing the stories that they're on the
regular cable show.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Okay, I guess that makes sense because it's like, oh,
this is the first one out, so and then you
got to make up for the fact that, like the
Mike Tyson fight was awful, like awfully transmitted, so you
just please let this transmit, right.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Oh yeah, I mean for the most part, ww's never
really had a problem with the transmitting, transmitting anything like that.
They always been good at that stuff. Uh, because when
they had Peacock, they never really had them in trouble. Yeah,
you know, now when they have their own network. Is
when they had their troubles. Yeah, when they had their
own network, that's when they had the troubles.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I see, Okay, that's interesting, but yeah, the only highs
I've seen is just like, oh, we have had all
these celebrities here.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, and then are fans.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure, like I'm not I'm not
knocking it, but it's just it's just kind of funny
where it's like we've had all these people here and.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
A lot more streaming services is going to be having
a lot more lives.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, man, and it's coming back to live TV. That's
what's happening.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It does kind of help to for during of these purposes.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I know, I kind of like to throw on the
flext because they can go a little bit longer because
on cable you can't go alonger.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Netflix doesn't have like a time constraint.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, they don't have a strong time restraint. But you see,
I have to end it, but you don't have to
end it at like that. Let's say the show loans
off at nine o'clock, you have to end it at
nine o'clock. You know, Football is the only thing that's
the only thing that it gets away with, extending Earth stay,
extending later football and basketball onlyto sports or well sports

(05:48):
period that they get away with where you're eager to
stend your time.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, sound, I understand how you feel. I understand how
you feel about you know, live live formats on Netflix.
But is this there'll be a thing of the thing
of the future.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
No, that's true, It's definitely true.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But you know, got a debt. You've gotten mail.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I want to talk about this email we got from
Zach while we were while we were on break James,
and it's it's it's old news by now, but it's
kind of new news to me anyway. So Zach emil
Dan he said, hey, guys, so with no Onlan coming
out and saying what the next movie is, while I
would be very interested to see age range numbers, what

(06:32):
the age range will be for the for the movie,
like if more teenagers see it or if more older
people see it, because Homer's Odyssey is a timeless tell.
So I was wondering what you guys think about this.
I guess he's asking, like what the age range of
like viewers, like the demographic of the viewers. We're gonna
go see this movie because Odyssey is it's an it's
an older it's an older story. I mean it's been

(06:54):
around for centuries.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
But yeah, it's been around for centuries. This is the
way one of the one of the biggest book. It's
a big book.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, it's a huge book. So he's he's as he's
interested to see. Like if if more older people are
gonna go watch it, or if like a younger side
are gonna go watch it.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's gonna be a more of an older generation.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think so too. But I also I also feel
like Christopher Nolan's movies aren't really predicated to like a
teenage crowd anyway, outside of the Dark Knight movies, like
the Batman films.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think Didate was Tidnett kind of brought out a younger.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Crowd possibly, so uh, you know, I'll agree with you there.
So yeah, I think just based off of what I've
seen from Nolan before, I I I feel like he
just has an older demographic. Yeah, I mean, I don't
think The Odyssey is gonna change that or anything like that,
because I mean this also isn't the a new rendition

(07:47):
of the Odyssey like we've always had retellings of the Odyssey.
Uh oh, brother, where art thou from back in the day?
That's the Odyssey in a southern perspective and like not modern,
but like semi modern, you know when you when you
think about it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I like the movie too, We're Brother, George Sloe, I
like that.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, it's a great movie. It's got a good song.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, it does, it does. I think.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, I have one of the young co workers that
I work with, and he's he's a little bit optimal.
He's what's the word not pesthemist is a pessimistic?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Pessimistic is negative? Optimistic is positive?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I think he's like a little bit pessimistic because
he likes Christopher Nolan. He does a love Christopher Nolan
and he loves Odyssey. He's one of his favorite books. Yeah,
and he's just a little bit worried on how he's
a he's gonna do such a monumental movie like this,
and the.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Cast is in it, you know, it's just right.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeh.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Look, I do love Matt Damons. Matt Damiens an incredible actor.
But Odysseus I'm not saying for sure he's playing ODC's
but he's gonna be the headliner for sure?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is this one? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean he is a bigger name. I feel
like you would make Tom Holland Odysseus, but Tom Holland
makes sense to make him. It would, But also Tom
Holland doesn't have like that big of a star power.
I heard the other day he hasn't actually acted in
anything in like two or three years.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, like I mean, it's yeah, he has like I
think you've done like some INDI very very very indie indie, very.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Indie style movies that really won't they're good.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, and maybe like a Netflix film. No, well the
Netflix movie was like back in twenty twenty, the one
he did with Robert Pattinson, the one about the Devil
or whatever. Yeah, so I think he would be the lead,
but like I said, he doesn't have a whole lot
of star power. And then well, and Hatha Hathaway's in it.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, ain't Hathaway? Robert Pattinson?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's like a all star cans.
I think even Robert down GINI I think he's bringing
him back will Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I mean I can see all those people appearing as
like you know, some some Greek character or well, worst
name was in uh Lopeita Lopeeda Nuaga.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yep, she's in there too as well.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Is that her first Nolan film?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I won't say so. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I believe it was in Day, isn't it? Charlie Charlie's
They're on. There's a lot of there's a lot of
big names in this and and when you you know,
when you do have all these big names, it's it
is a question of like, well, how how much screen
time are they gonna get? Because Odysseys comes across a
wide array of characters on his way back home, So

(10:25):
it's like how how long are each of these people
gonna be playing whatever characters they.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Are, and how long is the movie gonna be?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
How long is the movie gonna be? It's probably gonna
be another three hour movie, because.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You can never make a movie too long and never
make a movie too short. Like if the movie is
too long and it's good, I'll take the way it's
too short, it's bad, then you got a problem on end.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, that's true. I mean, I'm I'm excited for it.
I love Greek mythology, so as soon as as soon
as I heard it was Odyssey. I was like, Oh,
that's gonna be it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, And this is his first time doing a great
mythology movie.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, so I mean I guess he was going to
get to it eventually because he's done sci fi, he's
done thrillers, he's done I mean, he's kind of been
everywhere in the genre or across multiple genres. Right, Yeah,
that's the phrase.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well he's he usually always does like a lot of
sci fi, a lot of you know, yeah, a lot
of sci fi, other world thinking, you know, been mind thinking,
mind thinking.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, there's always something else to it, right, like an inception,
there was something else to it. In Interstellar, there was
something else Tenant.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That was another movie he did back in the day
when he first getting started.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You got the Prestige and Mento. Yeah, yeah that was backwards.
That was a backwards movie, right.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, So he's always kind of done those type of
movies that The Operahawa was his first movie where he
did where it tackled somebody that was actually real.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. And then even the way he
did that movie, right, because like what scenes that were
pressed day or no scene, what was it the black
and white scenes were like the court scenes or something.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
There was a significance with how certain scenes were done.
I remember hearing about that MM. So yeah, we'll see
what he does with it. I'm excited. Like I said,
I think you're right. I think an older crowd is
going to be more and more likely for this. It's
just because, like Chris, I don't think Chrisopher Nolan's films
really appealed to like a younger crowd anyway outside of Batman,

(12:25):
So I wouldn't be surprised if this is like a
late teen, early adult, older adult movie either.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Thank you for the email. It means a lot to make.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm going to listen to more on the Goal with
Jacob and James. What about you. I'm gonna stab Rob Nuns.
Oh that's a good one, all right, So let's move

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on here. Sonic three. We didn't get a chance to
talk about Sonic three because we had the break in
the holidays and everything, and I know it's kind of
old news by now, but I wanted to talk about
it because I've seen it. You've seen it. I really
enjoyed it. What did you think of the movie?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I enjoyed it too.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I thought, this is probably my favorite one out of
the because I like the second one, but I like
the third one more.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I like this one more. This I compare this and
more to the first one.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I really liked how this one just got into the
plot really quickly, Like as soon as the movie started,
it was it was already going, like we didn't we
didn't get you know, Oh, they're hanging out at home
and they're a happy family and then Shadow shows up. No,
it's it's from the beginning. And Joel pointed out something
about these movies that he likes, and he said, he

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likes that the little end credit scene, or I guess
it's not an end credit scene, but like you know
when when the movie ends and then the credits kind
of play for a little bit and then it shows
another scene. He likes how the next movie immediately picks
up where that scene leaves off, because he's like, you know,
if if you watch these movies at home, they flow
in together very well because the first movie ends and

(14:09):
then the scene, the scene where Tel shows up happens,
and then you start the next movie. The movie starts
and then like five minutes into it, tell tells shows up,
they reshow that scene.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, and then it kind of reminds you of kind
of like Pokemon, when it will always pick up or
where the episode left off, so there's always the two
be continued.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, and then the second movie leaves off with like
you know, they show Shadow waking up, and then the
third movie opens with like Shadow waking up and busting
out and all that stuff. Like I said, or like
Joel said, it flows together very well. Uh. I enjoyed
the movie. When when we watched them in theaters and
it ended, I came to the realization that this is

(14:51):
gonna be the next Fast and Furious franchise.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, I was. I was gonna get to that. I
was gonna get to that.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
It follows the same traits.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
It follows the same trait I like to say. I
love the action. I love doctor Robiden Nick.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
He was cool. Jim Carrey, he's great.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I felt like Sonic was a little bit starting to
get a little bit on my nerves, just a sad bit.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I never thought I'd actually say that about Sonic because
I love Sonic, but he's starting to his character itself.
It is just starting to get on my nerves a
little bit, starting to become real douchebag.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah yeah, how so what what's what's your example?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think in this one the jokes didn't land as
much as I really wanted him to.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
The jokes a little quivers here and there.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
It didn't land like like like it needed to in
this one, and it just came out more of its being.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's just a real douchebag. I see. It's just like, okay, man,
we get it, we get it.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
So see, I didn't think too much about what he
was saying. Honestly, I didn't, don't. I really didn't think
about that. But yeah, that's neat, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, the jokes didn't really land for me.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I am a little concerned about how many characters you
gonna keep introducing into this franchise and how many people
go keep doing anti heroes. Yeah, we know Nichols was
gonna be anti We already knew that. If you watch Sonic,
you already knew that. Yeah, Shadow, same thing.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
You already knew that.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
But as you go along, are we gonna have definitive
villains that we don't have to work.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
With outside of Robotnick, Right outside of Robotic. I mean,
Robotnick is your number one villain. There's not too many
villains in the Sonic universe. I feel like there are enough.
But yeah, it's like, how many how many these anti
heroes are you gonna do? Okay, So for the next movie,
it seems like they're finally introducing Metal Sonic, which I'm surprised.
I was a little surprised he wasn't introducing this one.

(16:41):
I don't know. I expected him to show up in
the last movie, and I expected him to show up
in this movie. But we're we're finally gonna give him
in the fourth movie. We get Amy. Amy is gonna
come around in the fourth movie, so automatically you got
another ally right Yep. Obviously, I don't think Metal Sonic
is going to join the team because Metal Sonic is straight.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Bad see straight a bad Gas, so we don't have
to worry about that. Yeah, he's a straight, straight, straight shooter,
straight bag gass, so we don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
We're good on help.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, but we're getting the introduction to Amy, and it's
kind of a question like, Okay, are you gonna introduce
any other characters in the next game? I have a
feeling in the next movie they're gonna go back to
Sonic's home world. I think that's the next step because
we've seen, right, yeah, we've seen three movies of them
on Earth. We've seen them save Earth like two or
three times already. The next step is to get Sonic
back home because from there, I imagine Doctor Robotic still alive.

(17:31):
I don't think he obviously, I don't think he died
in that explosion or it's it's a very real possibility
they can just ride him back in, right sure. So
I think the way they would do that is you
explained that the explosion warped him to sonics Home World,
and then from there he started taking over. Because if
you remember the video games, part of the story in
the video games was Robotnik was turning the little furry

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creatures in the robots, and that's why when you when
you smash them as Sonic, the little bunnies and stuff would
hop out of them because you're freeing them from the robots.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Ah yeah, yeah, So I see.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
That being implemented in the next movie where robot Nick
took over Sonics Home World. He's turning everything in the
in the Robots hence that's why we get Metal Sonics
showing up, That's why we get Amy showing up. So
I I just wonder if you're gonna meet other characters.
Because you got like Rouge the Bat, and you got Cream,
and you got Big the Cat. You have all these

(18:25):
other little like other characters you can introduce.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
So you see a lot of the characters. I really
don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I mean, of course I know the bat. You know
the Yeah, there's some reason the all the all the
guys get turned on by a cartoon, a cartoon head
child mixed with mat Yeah, all right, that's not weird
at all.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Right, And then you know, I also know about the
was it the alligator?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, the alligator. There's a chameleon, there's like a b
There's all kinds of creatures and characters. There's also a
hedgehog from the future.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
I feel like them you can just put them all
in one movie, right and cut. You don't have to
keep just doing the next movie, the next, the next one.
I feel like you can just double all in one movie.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, and that would be the next movie and then
then you end it. Honestly, I I kind of feel
like this should have been the end, because this was
kind of peak, you know what I mean, Like you
have them flying around in space. They went super safe.
We got a dragon Ball Z movie before Dragon Ball Ze.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean we knew Amy was coming. Yeah, when I
saw a Hammer, I was like as Amy.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to see how long
to go with this franchise. I I kind of see it.
I really do, kind of see it becoming the next
Fast and Furious where it's like, all right, the next
movie they're doing this, the next movie they're doing this.
First of all, these movies make money. A lot, a
lot of people come to see them, a lot of kids,
a lot of families. The theme of the movie is family.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, it did better than Fossa.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, the theme of the movie is family. Like like
Fast and Furious, they follow the same traits where they
introduce a character and then he joins the team. Like,
I see this being the next Fast and Furious franchise
because you can do you can just follow the video
games at some point, right, Like you can have the
Hawk people show up and they snowboard or whatever, and
then you can have I'm not saying they should, I'm
just saying, like I see where Hollywood would take this,

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you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, it's true. There's a lot of ways they can
take it.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Did you ever watch The Knuckle Show?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know what I did.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I don't remember much from it. You know, like, well,
old girl from uh what was it, Jessica Jones.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Kristin Ridder, she was in the third movie.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, she was the third movie. What's the name she was?
She was in a knuckle TV show kick Cutting? Yeah,
it was k cutd.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
No, it was some it was some other lady it
was Yeah, it wasn't her. Oh okay, yeah, it was
some of the ladies. She was a villain. Yeah, yeah,
but you know, she didn't really have much to do
in the Sonic movie though, Kristin Ridder.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, they didn't really give her watch to do.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
It was kind of weird the introduce her, because I'm like, okay,
she's here, but like she's a pseudo bad guy, but
not really because they're all trying to stop Robotneck in Shadow.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I thought I thought she was a bad guy force
with you.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
It seemed like they tried to make her out to be.
But then it's like, well no, you you have Robotnick
the Robotnicks as the bigger villains. And something I appreciate
is they they really do stick to the source material
because that whole plot line of like the old Robotanic
wanting to destroy the world, that's straight from like Sonic
Adventure too. That's a straight plot point. That's that's a
big game where Shadow is introduced, Like, they basically follow

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that line. They I mean, they get shadows backstory, correct, right.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
They Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
And that was the one thing I think everybody was
concerned about, Like all you're gonna do is right because.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's a dark it's a dark story.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
And it is a dark story. They managed to to
translate it well without going, you know, too dark with it. Yeah,
like you like you get what happens. But they didn't.
I mean they you know, they didn't do anything gruesome
with it, which of course not it's a kid's movie,
but true, But they didn't do we got a job there.
What did you think of Shadow's voice? Like, what do
you think of Keanu Reeves's shadow?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
I like, ill, you know, I was at first I
was concerned, but I wasn't because I think, you know,
cavalies can do the job.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
When it comes to Carson the voices. It's not the first,
but Carson the voice before.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, this does did Toy story, and I kind of
figured that he could probably pull that off.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
He did. He pulled it off pretty good.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Right, I mean, I mean, his his voice does Matt Shadow.
I think I couldn't buy it as shadow though. That's
the thing, like every time I every time we talked,
I was like, it's count of reeves, you know what
I mean, Like, I don't know, Yeah, I mean I
feel that I understand that it's just for me. I
was like, I don't, I don't know. I don't like

(22:34):
him as shadow. And it's funny because like Itdris Elba's
Knuckles and you listen to Knuckles and it's it's it's
it's just elbow, right. But I think what helps between
those two characters is Idris Elba the way Knuckles dialect
is right, Knuckles talks in a certain way, and he
talked he he phrases things differently, and like the words

(22:55):
don't follow a normal sentence like a regular person would
say or like a tonic would say.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
So I think there's like thor dialect.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yes, then there's a there's an extra layer of character
in there that makes you kind of forget, like, oh,
it's DRIs Elba. It's obvious it's DRIs Elba, but it
kind of masks it a little bit, right, Shadow doesn't
have that Shadow talks like Sonic does, except like, you know,
a bit darker.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess it just it didn't
really bother me. It didn't really like that.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I understand that. I mean it, it didn't kill the
movie for me. It's just I think when I listened
to him, it's like, Okay, it's it's Keanu Reeves, you
know what I mean. It just doesn't like the the
suspension of disbelief kind of kind of goes away. I
didn't hate it. It's just that that's my little nitpick,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh no, no, no, I'm staying.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Like I said, I was still drawed intil the actual
story and stuff like that. So that's that's what kind
of got me. Yeah, that's what really got me going.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Now. The movie, I mean, it was a great movie though.
It was fantastic across the board, like.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, no, the song, even movie was really good.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I'm just a little bit concerned with the future of it,
and hopefully they'll overdo it and over indulge.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
It, ye would, so they'll probably do it anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, it's just like hopefully we don't get like seventeen
more movies of this or whatever, or like, you know,
the Knuckles spin off show. I wanted to talk about
that for a second, because the Knuckles spin off show,
it was a really good spin off for the reason
of you didn't have to watch that move that show
at all to understand the next movie, right, it's all honestly,
all it explains is why Wade was left in charge

(24:27):
with the Master Emerald. That's all it explains, and all
you don't even need that explanation, right, because it's just
it just fits in the goofiness of the of this
world that like, oh Knuckles, yeah, Knuckles, Holly would leave
it with like Wade for whatever reason. Yeah yeah, But
the Knuckle Show is just about him and Wade going
on this little adventure and Wade's trying to prove himself
as a warrior or whatever, and that that's it. So

(24:49):
by the end of it, if you've seen Sonic three,
you're like, oh, that's why, Okay, that's why that one
scene happens.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
But oh yeah, yeah, when he goes to get there.
Well they go and get the emerald. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, so I already knew their part already that I
had just claimed to one person.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
But yeah, exactly. And it's just again, you don't need
to watch the movie to really get it. You're like, Okay. Honestly,
when when Knuckles like, oh I left it with a warrior,
I thought it was gonna be the dog. I was
fully expecting the dog.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know me too, I thought that was gonna be
it too.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, that would have been hilarious. I like how they
gave the dog captions too.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yes, it's cute. I like that.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, I just want my humans back.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Like I said, the cast is very endearing. Everyone's endaring.
You know, they keep doing it. They helped the Antie
Easy Needs movie.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
They really do.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's probably the bist trilogy that we've had in a
long time.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, and it's crazy, you know, it's crazy because this
almost didn't happen, right, Like they almost screwed this up royally.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh yeah, the artwork being with that yeah famous trailer.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, they almost messed us up so bad. And then
like look they because they listened to people and they
fixed it. And now they have you know a trilogy franchise,
a good franchise that makes money. This movie made three
hundred and thirty eight million in the box office off
a budget of one hundred and twenty two million. So
I mean that's that's since December, right, we're only in January.

(26:17):
It's only been out a couple of weeks. Ye, so yeah, yeah,
so I mean it's only it's only gonna make more money.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I think I think it's probably good. I think it's
probably made its best work.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Over the holiday. Loans don't make as much more money
because everybody's back to school.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Now that's fair. But you know, but you know what streaming,
streaming is gonna pick up up.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, streaming will pick up big time.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, because you know what, your favorite movie a red one.
It didn't do so well in theaters, James, But let
me tell you them streaming numbers, the Amazon Prime numbers.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
This is well, welllet's when the movie should have been it. It
should have stayed on Amazon Prime. It should have had
no business like movies like that should stay at home.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, you know those streaming movies.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Just you know what's that other movie of the Nutcracker
will be Nutcrackers with this still the way he's look,
he's looking after these kids that have been sheltered. And
then you know Security Kids on the Farm. That's a
Christmas movie that was a streamers movie.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Got buried that come out this year. Yeah, that came
out this year. It got buried on the streaming service.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, I completely.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
It's on Hulu.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
And what's that other movie that that horrible Jack Black movie,
that Horrible.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Jack Dear Santa.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, it's like the movies like that should always be
on streaming, you know. So I'm not surprised that a
rare one is doing better on streaming than they did
in the movie theaters, because that's where it should have been.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, honestly, The Rock should probably just make his own
streaming service at this point. Just make make your seven
bucks streaming service and then put all your movies on there.
Make it seven dollars a month. You know, It's it's
all there. The the idea is already there. He's probably
got it networks already, or maybe not, because he probably
wants his stuff as as valuable as possible.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
The Rock just makes stuff up as he goes, and
it is just messing up w W and it's messing up, uh,
messing up in movies.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
That is true. He's getting too big for his little
wrestling bitches.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, he's starting. He starting the kind of mess up stuff.
And that story for another day.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
On that one, gotta go fast on the go, we're
on the run with Jacob and James.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
We're talking about like him real quick. This was just
a real quick review for it.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I like the movie. The songs didn't do it for me.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Lyn wall Linn Marmuell should have as small as stuck
with doing Maana.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
But I understand they Ryan King' probably paying more money.
But the songs didn't do it for me. Uh what else?
The story was good. It was very dark, very grim.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I feel like I feel like it has to be considering.
You know, it's the story of Scar, right, it's kind
of an origin story for Scars. So it's not gonna
end well for one of the lions.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a very dark story. Uh.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
The trailer puts it off as if Lafossa is his
trouble maker that does all these things.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
The Scar is supposed to be the guy's totally not
the truth. Watch it for yourself.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Slander guard.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
The Scar is a big it's a big you know
what bag, and you learn there from the jump he's
he's he's a woods bag for one.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
He's a very wools bag.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
He starts try to you know, he starts out just
a good person, but he's a big sucker.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He's easily he does not do anything. He's a whiney.
He's a baby. He can't do anything. He's crap. He's garbage,
you know.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And Scar's father didn't like Lafossa because Scar helped. He's
saved the Leo lions. They don't like straights. They don't
like straight lions. If you're straight lion, they don't protect you.
It's is his whole story. I don't don't want to
spoil it this case. You do see it because it
really is a good story. The problem I had with
it was too much foreshadowing. I mean, okay, we get it,

(30:08):
Scar one day is gonna kill them on fossil. You know,
we don't need to get the foreshadowing that, you know,
it was one part of what we were Well. Foster
was about to hang off a cliff and Scar puts
his hands into Foster's hand.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Wow, he saves them. I'm like, okay, we get it.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
And it's the second time they kept doing it in
the movie, and it kept doing this foreshadowing what else
by who? Being so dark you had to interlude to
mon and pomebook. But I'll tell you I did hear
about that. They are the most annoying part of this movie.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right, because it's like, what is it? Is it telling
the story?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, he's telling the story to Kiara, and man when
I tell you, these two people, these two animals are
the most annoying animals that you will ever see do
in the movie.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
I get why they introduced because you're trying to level.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
You don't want to scare kids, right, you know, you
don't want to scare the hell out of your kids
because the story is so dark, so you're trying to
add some levity to it with some laughter.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, but when they come into the picture, they just drown.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
They just mess up the whole story because you want
to hear more about the story, but you can't because
they created to you trying to crack jokes like a
Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
You know, it doesn't work. It does not work. You know,
if they can find a.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Way to take them out of it. The movie is
an A plus movie.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, well, I mean you could have just had like
k are a commenting or something, right, or you could
have just not had them. I feel like that you
had them in there because like you're trying to do
like a pseudo Lion King one and a half thing.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, well is that?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
And also, like I said, you're trying to add levity
to it because it's it's so grim and dark and
the kids. You don't want to scare the hell out
of you.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Why make this dark movie? Then, you know what I mean.
It's like, true, no one needed them a fossil origin story.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
True, Hey you got a point. You got a point.
You got a point.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
That's really weird by oh man, they're interference in this
and none of the Joe planted Like that's the part
that that's the part that that shock because of the
first Lion King movie.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
They were the best part of that movie.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know, the I don't really remember them too much
from the life action.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I don't want to see how because they were the
best part of that movie.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like they've killed it, Like they looked like they were
the all the ones that really wanted to be there.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
But then in this one he's just like, what the
hell man? Just shut up? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I mean it's probably because when you think about it,
their their characters are so Menia school to the movie, right,
so they they probably came in for the day record
their lines and then they were done.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
You know, even even even Refiki was looking like it
was one part of a little bit. They cracked the
joke and Refigu was like.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'm I'm just gonna I'm just gonna hang myself at
this point is that y'allay bit is telling the story
and shut the hell up.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
And y'all shut the hell up.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, we finished telling this story, god man. So that's
not all that complains about the But the movie is,
it's a fine movie. It's a fine movie as song
as they really work for me so much foreshadowing.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's too much Tom in Pulb.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's not really a kid's movie, but they try to
frame it as a kid's movie where they try to
try to make it okay for the kids, but really
it's it's a dark story and what you know, the
thing the problem with Prequels is a dude to the
foreshadowing thing a little too much, And I I think
that's what a lot of people have issues with, like
these origin stories, Like I know, like the solo The

(33:35):
Hunt Solo movie kind of caught flak for that because
like it shows him getting his gun in his jacket,
and it's like, did we really need to see how
he got the gun in the jacket? But the same
thing with this when it's like, oh, they're foreshadowing like
Scar murdering Fasa with the lung of the King moments,
but it's like, did we really need how many of
these times a Scar do we need to see Scar
do this to like, Okay, we get it, he's gonna

(33:56):
let him die one.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Day, Yeah, we get it. Man, We only to do
that keep showing it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, it's
too prequels that do that. You know. You know what, Jacob,
you know what we do? We need to make our
own prequel.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, a foreshadowing prequel for shadowing prequel, Yeah, have a
for foreshadowing for Kodizrah.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's the story of you and Kdizer.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Then you also she hints about going to San Antonio
on the trip. I was like, oh foreshadowy, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
What shadowy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Are or you can do some equal easter eggs of
How You Met Me and Richard? Yeah, and have real
in the background.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, like I'm walking out on one door, you guys
are walking in. Yeah, shadow dumb. That's stupid.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's stupid, right, It's stupid when you think about it, Like, really,
we get it.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
We get it, man, god man.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
But uh, you know, speaking of a prequel that doesn't
really like bang you over the head with the foreshadowing moments.
We we watched Transformers one, oh yeah, over the break
and stuff, and it was a good movie.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
But you know, I do like this is very good movie.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, and you know what, I don't really recall that
many like over the head like, oh, he's gonna be optimism.
I guess there is, but it's not not over beach
over the head with it. And I guess like the
story was original enough to like, you know, kind of
take you away from that.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh yeah, like the fact that they were able to
add all this all this this juiciest within this movie.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It was so good man, I really really loved it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, and you know, Mega Tron becoming evil you feel
bad about it, but also the whole movie it is
leading to that, like that Nigga d one sixteen does
not like Ryan Packs at all in this film, like
they tolerates him as a friend. That's so.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, it was, it was, It was golden. I really
enjoyed this movie. Honestly, it's probably my favorite for transforming
movie too. Mumble beemble Bee.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, Bumblebee was really good too.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, honestly, that's my favorite one, like this one. I
love this one, Jacob, I'm telling you, I love the
Transformers one movie.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, it's a shame it's not gonna get a sequel.
You know, it didn't do so well.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
It might it might get one. Yeah, it didn't good enough.
It didn't good enough to possibly get a sequel.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, we'll see what happened. I don't Hasbro's kind of
like but heard about it because they're like, we're not
doing no more of these, but things change, you know that,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Things always change.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
They still got the Transformers g I Joe crossover thing
coming out, so if you still got faith in that,
you gotta have faith and Transformers one.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Come on, yeah, man, quick, transform.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
We're getting arrested with Jacob and James.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, let's speak of cinema universes and crossovers. So you
did you your boy from Sony the head of Sony.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Uh, at least he's something he was telling his and
the reason why Madame Webb didn't do good?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I heard about it. I think, what did he say, James,
what did he say?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
He was saying that it was the critics' fault and
the movie is really not that bad.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
It's a good movie, and no one gave it a
chance because of the critics.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
You know, I halfway agree with him, But Madam Webb
is a poor example of that.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's a poor example, poor example.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You could possibly make a case for Marvious, possibly, Yeah,
you could possibly make it.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I'm not say that.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I can't make no case for Creator, but you could
possibly make a case for all the other movies Ville.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Madam Well is historically and will be culturally the most
horrible comic book film that has been ever made.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I feel like if you put that movie out in
two thousand, it would have done better. It feels like
a two thousand movie, doesn't it. Like it just feels
like one of those I don't know, Like they barely
took the source material and made a movie out of it,
Like it was around those times when they were still
doing that. That's what.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
There were so many things in this movie.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, that I could go back to again and I
could pinpoint to you how horrible this movie is.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
No, I know, I'm not disagreeing with you.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'm just it is the most ridiculous film that has
been ever made.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
For whatever reason. The bad baby are.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Bad script writing, bad costumes, bad every like the fact
that you had a dude wear a lot of dude
has spider whale costume on, but it wasn't spider Man.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, not even like not even swinging.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
And the joke I'm not even talking about it is
about the jungle people. Jungle people. They had this man
looking like a whole spider Man, like like you know what,
the little like a made it whole costume.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I mean this man in the jungle, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Made in the jungle cost a little spider I said,
you guys just really really really trying to hit a
spider Man so much, which is you're hitting a spider Man,
but you won't you won't give a spider Man.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah. Well well then they turn around and be like,
well we could have used them the whole time. We
just didn't think people would accept it different like they
would have accepted it. They would have accepted it if
it wasn't Tom Holland if it was anybody else, if
it was a new actor, they would have been like, oh, hey, yeah,
there's a Spider Man here. Okay, cool. You could have
teased the identity of the actor for years, like you

(39:38):
could have just had a guy in a Spider Man costume,
because if you're doing it from the point of the
view of the villains, you don't need to show Peter Parker.
You just need to show Spider Man swinging around, beating
them up or whatever, or like you know, maybe they
win a fight, they lose a fight, and then whatever
happens the movie ends. You're setting up centers to six whatever.
But like, you don't need you don't need a Peter Parker.
You can just have a guy in a Spider suit.

(39:59):
I was saying that for years.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I want you to mark this day down, Jacob January
days suit down twenty five ten years from now, they
will make a documentary about this movie, about this universe.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I hope. So I want a documentary on the Sony
Spider Man universe because I do. I want to know
the inner workings behind these films, like what what led
to like some of the decisions. I do want that
to be exposed, and I do want to know, like
I want to know who screwed up? What what what interference?
Like why why did these movies happen the way they do?

(40:34):
You know what I mean. I'm looking forward to the documentary.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Honestly, it's going to be a documentary and we will
get it down and we will talk about this documentary.
I don't know all the world I'll be in the world.
I all know I'll be in a whilitair. I don't
know whether I'll be a paraplegic. I have no idea, James.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I know that we.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Are going to talk about this film. We're going to
talk about dis verse. It has to be studied.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, no, I agree with this. I'm ready for the
documentary to come out, Like because there's got there's something
behind the scenes that nobody knows about. That's that's the
cause for this. I don't want to know why, Like
I mean, come on, man, because I mean, you can't
do it. It's almost impossible to do like modern like

(41:19):
in the modern times, it's almost impossible to make a
comic movie without being pretty low accurate, and they somehow
like exceed it. Well I guess they do, like kind
of get most of the lower correct, but just like
the execution of it, you know what I mean, it's
just it's very it's very strange what they did.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
And the fact that you you blaming everybody else except
the person in the mirror.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Ye are you kidding me? Yeah? What come old? Well
we do it right?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well do I don't know? And then you know, the
Spider Verse movies have in trouble or I guess it's
not really having trouble. I don't know what's going on
with that movie. People are you know, people are afraid
because he keeps getting pushed back.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well okay, so oh, le me start on it. Because
the Spider Man, Miles Morales, he's out here being weird,
old weird. He's being a weirdo right now.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
But you know what my answer to that is, just
recast him. Just he's a he's a voice like you
get the get the get the Yeah, get the Miles
Morales streamer, the voice the guy. You know, you've seen
that guy he does like the live streams. Get him.
He's voicing, he's voicing a character in the The Spider
Man cartoon on Disney. Plus he's already voicing a character there.

(42:35):
Disney's already paying him. Just hire that guy.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Well, first of all, hey have you heard about the
weird stuff he's done.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, he's been really weird because Hayley Steiffeld got engaged
and then he tried to say he's gonna date the
Liz Allen actress, but she's been married or she's been
dating some guy for the like last four years.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
He had a picture of yeah trail.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, he's gotten really weird about things, which is why
I was just like, recast him, just to fire him.
Recast him. He's a voice, get rid of him. That's
it's also over it. I am over it because people
are like, oh, what are they gonna it's it's it's
the freaking King the conqueror bull crap again, where it's like,
what are they gonna do? Recast it? Just fire him?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Oh why are we acting like this? Just recast?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I don't know, there's no there's no other what are
we gonna do? Recast?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Say could say, to be fair, he is a very
prominent voice. You know, once you hear your voice, he
is he.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Is, but like, okay, you can get the Miles, the
guy who voices Miles for the video games, because I
think it's a different guy. Get him, or get don'd
Donald Glover didn't Don globber well Donald Glover, we would
be too much.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Of a are you praying a prowler?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah? And also his voice is very you. You you
do have to match like the same tone and register
that this guy's but it's not entire it's not impossible.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
But also if if you if it is a little different,
so what it's a movie about multi versus and you
know time you're gonna explain like, oh yeah, time time
moved a little bit, so he ain't still made this
damn movie.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
He gonna be Yeah, is the Lord's gonna be the
grown any damn way?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, it's it's you know, if if the third movie
comes out, what twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, whatever
they're explaining, twenty twenty eight, and it would it would
have been ten years from the first one. Yeah, because
the first one was twenty eighteen and then five years
later we finally got the second one. That's kind of
why I'm not concerned with like, oh, they're pushing it back.
It's like, okay, well there's five years between the first
and second one. If there's five years between the second

(44:33):
and third one, that's understandable. What's not understandable is the
fact that you tease like, oh, this movie comes out
next year, we're putting the second part out, and then
you never you didn't follow up. That's where you guys
screw it up. You should have just been like part one,
Part two is coming soon.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Well.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
The thing also too, when you do these movies day
it's the ends of the Cliffhanger, their first one.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
In the end of the Cliffhanger, you're right, it was
solid one, so crazy, and then being told, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
So when you do these cliffhanger movies, which I don't
like cliffhanger movies because this is what happens when you
do cliffhanger movies.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
This is what you know, you want to see the
ending of this. I hate cliffhanger movies, you know, I
hate this stuff. Man like the Batman. The Batman is
taking them.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
In twenty years to do Oh yeah, well, and but
at least I could say the movie ended. It didn't
end on the Cliffhanger.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
No, it ended.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
You're right, and apparently Matt Reeves is also going through divorce,
which is why things are being as slow as they are.
So there's some personal reasons. We talked about that last
well I don't think know we didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
We didn't.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I just learned about this.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh all we did, okay, yeah, yeah, he's been kind
of like going through it.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, you know, so there's reasons as to why he
hasn't really been able to work on the script. So
and that makes sense. But but you're right.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I know everybody, I know, everybody's kind of, like you,
you know, starting their own rumors about.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
What's been going on lately. And that's the whole norther
of the story. I think that's a whole the podcast.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
You going it, that's true.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
But uh yeah, like cliff On your movies, man, So
that's what happened when you do these cliff On your movies.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, people wanted to see it now.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Well and you know you should have. You should have
announced it when you were mostly done with it, and
I don't think they were. And that's the problem because
like the Spider Verse movies, particularly like the way the
animation is, it does take some time, right, it does.
The Spider The Spider People Chase in that second movie
took a year to animate alone. So it's like you
probably should have had most of the film ready to

(46:32):
go before announcing like, yeah, next year, we're gonna do it,
and that's what that's what bothers people. But to me,
if it's pushed back a little bit, I mean the
longer they take on it, it's a double standard, right,
because it's like, okay, cool. The more time they get
to take on it good because they can they can
hammer it out and actually give as a good product.
But also it's like, well, you you promised this movie

(46:52):
like three years ago, so is anybody gonna care by
the time it finally comes out. Oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 (46:57):
People that care? And then you know people care.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
And now I mean if you would have put it
out last last year or the year it was supposed
to come out, that was way before all this. Uh
the Miles Marles voice actor Shamik is like Shamik Moore.
That was way before Shamik Moore started doing weird stuff.
So you could have put you could have released the
movie and then this never would have affected the production process.

(47:21):
I don't even know if it really is affecting the
production process.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
No, he's.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah. I mean people are assuming it is, but I don't.
I don't really know how much it is or not.
And like I said, just recast, just fire him if
it's that big of a deal. Yeah, just like that.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
The last thing is.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I mean, how look at look at the freaking Star
Wars movies, like when like if they didn't like the product,
they just fired the whole director entirely, so like the
movie was done and they got rid of the director.
That's what happened with the Han Solo movie. It was
Chris Chris Lord and Phil uh Phil Miller, Phil Miller, Yeah,
those things. Yeah, the Lego, the Lego movie. People they

(48:03):
they originally were working on Han Solo. Disney for whatever reason,
didn't like what they were doing, fired him and got
the other guy. Yeah, or even the actor. I think
they was supposed to be a different actor they fired,
They got rid of him, and they replaced him with
whoever played Han Solo in that movie.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I think it was supposed to be up and coming
guy and I don't think I've ever seen him in
a movie since.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So so we all know that from now Jacob was like, recast,
anything that happens is recast.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Not anything that happens, but if it's really that big
of a deal. And and in terms of like workplace relationships,
I mean, your your lead voice actor, it's kind of
being weird to your other lead voice actor. Yeah, you know,
it's not like Hailey Steinfeld is a side character.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
She is.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, she's pretty prominent.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, she's prominent in those films. She's a love interest
of Miles Morales to some degree. So it's like, yeah,
if you're if you're if it's being weird as being
you're you're causing like this weird tense. I mean their
voice actors, right, So the good thing is they don't
actually have to be in the same room to work together.
They don't even have to record at the same time.
But that also that kind of does affect this sometimes

(49:08):
because they do record voice actors together because you want that,
you want that natural flow, and if that, if that
affects your production, then I don't know, recast.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Oh, you're right.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I mean, like I say, totally one hundred percent, right,
It's just I'm kind of sitting on my hands right here,
or just laying on the spine of that movie to
come out.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
You know that between then and Batman is just like,
come on, man, you had awful opportunity to get a
script done for Batman.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I just say, you're going through divorce, that's not easy.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
But you know all these different things, you're opening the
door for rumors and people start rumors, all those stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Just get it done. Yeah, you know, get all this
stuff done.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I highly agree.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Just do it.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You know, but you know, I mean, we don't. We
don't work in Hollywood, right, we don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
No, we don't. Unfortunately, wish I did. Spider Man Gets
the Girl? Oh no, go with Jacob and jameson. It's
freaking rad brother rat.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
That was a major Uh, that was a major detour.
Did you still want to talk about nos Fratto? Yes, sir, okay,
Well let's get into Nospara too. You saw it, I didn't.
I don't care about spoilers. Just let me know how
the movie won over.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
You don't care about spoilers, Well, let's not to literally
be spoil all.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
It's just it's an ancient, you know, ancient vampire from back,
you know, back in the nineteen twenties. He's the first
of his kind, first of vampire. I think Aaron Boy
was used to that old, that slick back. It's a sexy,
fine Drakula with with you know, with with the with
the voice in Transylvania and all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
But it's this is vampire is totally different. And Bill
was his name, Bill.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Scarsguard, Bill Scar's Guard.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
He loses himself in this role man.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
The protect makeup they put on him was amazing, that's
what he did, such a good job with it.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
That's what I've heard. I've you know, I heard he
he did some kind of like I don't know, he
he learned how to do some like ballerina death dance
or whatever, to incorporate how orluck that's his name, right, Warlock. Yeah,
And to incorporate how Warlock moves. I learned. I heard
he learned like some sort of death chant to like

(51:47):
incorporate in like how he speaks. You know, he doesn't
do the death chant, but like it. It's how he
like formed transformed his voice to like sound like Orlock,
or like what he wanted Orlock to sound like. I
also heard, Yeah, I also heard there was there was
a vampire penis in this movie.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, somewhat kind of. Yeah, you can rarely see it.
You can see it, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
They don't try trying to make it too prominent in
the films because you can get in trouble because that
will pass the rating right and they will become like
X rayed.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
So you can't show too much of that. They feel
like a small glimpse of it.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
And you know, Uh, Emily Rose, Emily Rose dip Ye
Johnny Delle's daughter, the beig Forehead. She has some very
beforehead Jesus christ Man. It's like ya can't have some
of that hand a little bit man.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
But she's great in here. Uh, she got naked a lot. No,
she didn't get nada. It's the show. She only shows
up moves like at the last part of the movie.
It starts getting a ro.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
You don't see that. You don't see that much nowadays
move movies.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
No, you don't sit in there. An Tylo Johnson.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
He does a good job in there as well. That
other up his stock. Nicholas Holt, he's really good in here.
Well them the fold doesn't come into the second half
of the film. Yeah, he doesn't come in the second
half of the film. It's like he doesn't have a
crazy little screen time, but he's on like the back
half of the film.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
It's all him.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
And I'll tell you the most disertain part that was
of this movie. And remember when we talked about this,
because you said, I remember by Peter and the rat situation. Yea,
you could definitely tell those all AI rats just running around.
It was all, yeah, AI all c g I rats,
can you can definitely tell?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
You can definitely tell. Man. I looked at one of
them real closely. I was like, you could, that's it. Yeah,
that's a c g I rat. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Nonetheless, they were still scary and creepy. His heir because
all as your sins upon this town. He's bringing his
play and he's killing all these people and you that
was that was dunky. That was the part that was
still so creepy and eerie that all these people that
were dying over this plate because he's he's transcending, He's
coming to this town. Yeah, to get Emily Roll's depth,

(54:11):
and it is it is, man, the amount of death's
caskets that has been drawn up for these people is
sad and antil.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Johnson loses his mind because Nicholas Halt is his friend.
So they stay over at his house and aarontl.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Johnson's wife ends up getting sick, end up getting bit,
and then all all kills, the kids and his wife
Antel Johnson, so he is losing his damn mind.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Wow. Oh man, it was. It was really good.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I would say the first half is better than the middle,
and then the third. The third act is when it
picks up the middle sound. The middle scene is what
it kind of gets a little a little long because
I was kind of dozing off a little bit. Okay,
now just pick it back up, pick it back up here,
and it picks up in the third hand.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
That makes sense. I mean, it doesn't seem like an
action packed movie, right. Orlock's not murdering people john Wick
style or anything like that. It's not. I wouldn't expect
it to be super actiony, but it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Did you know that William Dafoe played Orlock before he
played Yeah, he was not Feratu in a movie from
the two thousands, from two thousand called Shadow of the Vampire. Oh,
I think I remember it in any that was not
a movie. Yeah, but he played Orlock. He was he
was in the makeup and everything, and yeah, is it
a movie like you want to see? I am interested

(55:39):
in Faratu, Yeah, I am. I am interested in watching
the movie. It looked really good, the trailer looked really good.
I've heard a lot of really good things about it.
So I I am gonna watch this eventually.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Is it because I'm previously yourself, I'm prettyure.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
So yeah, No, I don't think she's really interested in
watching this.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I thinks he's interested interested in Matt.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Before we get out of here, James, Uh, did you
did you see that clip of the guy who like
shot himself on a podcast?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I saw a dobslst they were Corey was talking about it.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I mean I haven't clicked the video of him talking
about it yet, but uh, I saw like the highlight
that say, dude shoots himself in the studio.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah, it's it's it's like some rapper guy, some rapper
from years ago who got famous when he was a
kid apparently, So I guess now he's just you know,
trying to coast on the interview fan or whatever. But
he's like itching his leg and he's got a gun
in his pocket. Because I can't put it in a holster, yeah, like, well, yo,
put it in the Yeah, but he's got it straight

(56:44):
in his pocket. I think he goes like the move
to adjust it and then he fires it on accident,
and I think he shoots like one of the producers,
like one of the producers got shot, and then he
raised himself from the buzzle flash. Yeah, and then like
the and the face he makes James is like like
a toddler who just got in trouble for something, like

(57:06):
you know that why messed up face?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah, I saw his spice, Like I said, I didn't
click on the video, but I saw his fight. Yeah,
he's like, oh my god, I just do that. Oh man,
that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, I mean it's that's not there the producer hopefully
the producers, Okay, the producer be.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
He's a lot right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I think he's so alive on the leg or something
from what I understand from what I hear, I don't
know if it's fully true or not, but do.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
You imagine just doing the interview, you get shot the leg, like, yeah,
Jack's legs here, right?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
He raising David shooting you late.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I know that would be ridiculous that would not be good.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Oh key, David, just just this just sick of it.
It's and Jacob and it legs.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
There's a safety for a reason, like it's.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
It's it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
The good thing is, you know we're remote, so we
don't have to worry about that, non't worry about accidentally
shooting each other in the leg.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
But you know, I do sound a fake. I like that.
Oh that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
It's something man. So I just wanted to leave you
with that before we get out of here.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I think we've said, Hey, I'm about to watch it.
I'm gonna watch the video. I'm gonna watch the video.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Go watch the go watch the whole whole interview.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
See what Yeah it is, Well I would check that out.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
That's why you don't film your podcast. That's just do
all audio.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
So let it be here. We'll so be a gunshot
of the studio that the hell is at the background.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah, you know you can just you can just cut
it out. You don't have video evidence.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
You can just just to pull the blood in the studio. Yeah,
the pull blood floor over the carpet.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
That's something man.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
It's oh man, So that's great.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Well, there we go. First first recording of twenty twenty
five is down and over. Yeah, many more. It was
a good show. It was a good fun show to
start off the year.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I think, oh yeah, I think so man is ALLID show.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, so we'll keep the fun rolling next week when
we return. So yep, without further ado, everybody, I'm on
the go, James is on the go, We're all on
the go. We're out of here. That's all we have
for today. Thank you for listening, and if you would
like to join the conversation, you can email us at
On the Go Pod twenty twenty three at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
You can also find us on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube
at On the Go with Jacob and James.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
You can find James on Instagram at James I seven
now four. You can find me on Instagram at Jacob
d'antuonees dot audio. James is on the go, Jacob's on
the go, we are all along the go.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
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