123. Captain America: Brave New Bird

In this episode of On The Go with Jacob and James, the duo dives into a lively discussion filled with humor, pranks gone wrong, and their unique takes on recent movies and pop culture. James shares a hilarious account of his unconventional Valentine's Day prank that spiraled out of control, while Jacob recounts his romantic gesture that aimed to outshine a friend's lackluster holiday. The conversation shifts to their movie escapades, including a review of the Netflix film "Rebel Ridge" and a critique of the latest Captain America installment, "Brave New World." They explore themes of representation, the challenges of directing in the Marvel universe, and the impact of reshoots on storytelling. With listener emails and voicemail contributions, this episode is packed with insights, laughter, and a touch of introspection about the current state of superhero films. Join Jacob and James for a fun and engaging ride!
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(00:41):
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
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Speaker 4 (00:59):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Why grandma, what's up?

Speaker 5 (01:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I like it a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I really enjoyed it. So James, once again, we are
we are back to entertain Planes are falling from the sky.
The Nazis are on the comeback. The meatless is on
the rise. But you know, let's let's talk about some
movies and TV.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Huh, let's get into it. Still talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Try to enjoy our lives a little bit. But before
we get into all that, how was your how's your
Valentine's Day weekend?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
James?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
You have a hot date over the weekend?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Not really, it was just a friend. We just hung out.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
I did like a little prank on her because she's
kind of spoiled, So I did like a little I
bought like a whole bunch of BS gifts.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
I decided that I was gonna play like a little
prank on it and get it like McDonald's from Valentine's Day,
get us Walmart flowers and some.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Some chocolate candy from a dollar tree.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
And uh, it didn't go as playing as much as
I would have wanted. Naturally, she was kind of pissed off.
She got in the car and everything was fine, and
then we pulled up to McDonald's and she was like,
what was this was going on? I was like, yeah,
it's is a going to McDonald's. She was hello pissed off,
She was hello pissed off. And then when I gave

(02:45):
her flowers, she threw the flowers in my face and
they were like half dead flowers.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And I left the price tag on I left the
Walmart price tag on it. You know, Walmart's flowers not really.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
The best flowers, so I left the price tag on it.
So she threw the flowers in my face, which is
that point. I was already in the prank. I'm ready
in this because I don't like people throwing stuff in
my face.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
So this, this is going out of hand. This is
go completely left. And then.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
I gave her the candy, and the candy is like
those those chocolate cherries where the chocolate cherries are halfway
melted and halfway frozen because they had been left on
the shelf.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
For so long.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
And I gave her that, and then she threw the
candy on the ground and it was just it was
just a haywire. It was it went exactly how it
should ha went, but they were completely left. So I
told her, hey, it's a prank. I immediately told her
it's a prank. And as I already reserved another restaurant,

(03:43):
like everything was already, you know, I'd already planned how
this thing was going to go, her attitude towards it,
and then I think that was gonna happen. I didn't
think she's gonna take it that way, but uh yeah,
that was That was pretty interesting night.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That was pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Dang James, Welcome to the club of It's just a prank, bro.
It was just a print all all those prank videos
out there, people getting their ass kicked for doing prank streams.
You haven't learned your lisson.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was just a prink.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
It was just because at first, because she was out
here for like a week, so she just assumed that
I was going to do something for Valentine's Days.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I was like, okay, it's like that, that's what we're
doing right now. Damn.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
So I was like, I got you, I got I
got you number, So I forgot I played the prank,
and then they went.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
To come completely left. Yeah, completely left.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
This is usually what happens with those those kinds of things.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Well, well, I took it to the restaurant with's that Eagle.
It's an Eagle restaurant over that by Moral City mall.
Nice nice restaurant, really really nice. I already reserved it
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
And she she enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
She apologized, I apologizing her for playing a prank and
uh yeah that was in.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
That was in.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well what a lackluster, What a lackluster way
to end the night, James, Well.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Yeah, a little took her, took her back to the
airport that next day, that Saturday.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So she's back in Arizona. Now. Well, Dangan's thank thank god,
thank god. Well my, uh.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
My Valentine's Day went slightly better than that.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I think that's a good. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I had gotten kodiat hera some flowers as well, but
I want no, not from Walmart, from one eight hundred flowers.
It's like when those online flower services. Yeah, I got
them delivered to her work. It was like two thousand
roses or something like that. And I partly did did
it because she has a coworker whose husband is terrible.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh nice.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
She's always telling stories of how like the husband doesn't
like do things around the house too much, or or
she had made the comment that like she wanted to
go to the zoo, and then while she was at work,
her husband was like, oh hey, I took her daughter
into the zoo today, and she's like, I wanted the
to this zoo.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I was the one. We said, that sounds like a
perfect husband. What do you talk about?

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, so they were talking about Valentine's Day plans like
a week ago or whatever, and the woman was made
the comment that, oh, we've been married ten years, we
don't really do like Valentine's Day anymore. Or yeah, we've
been together like ten years, so we don't really do
Valentine's Day anymore. So, I mean, I was gonna buy
flowers regardless, but out of like subtle pettiness to be like,

(06:27):
your husband should do better, I ordered flowers to kiddeacher's
job and hopes that this woman would see this and
like she would go home and start argument with her husband.
But the funny thing is a lot of other people
got things delivered to them, like not just flowers, but
like some people had lunch or like desserts or whatever.
So she was like feeling quite left out. Oh and yeah,

(06:48):
supposedly when she went home her husband had had like
gotten her flowers or whatever. He's surprised her flowers. I
don't know how true that is.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Not Can we just gonna do it at the job?
How can we do it? Could have done the job.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, could have could have done it. I don't know.
I don't know how true it is. Maybe she's making
it up so she doesn't seem like she didn't get
flowers Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
She didn't get a damn thing. Back down, we know that.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
You know that, everybody knows shein't get a damn thing
going like that house. Maybe it's the same damn thing
and the person never changed their habits all because of
a holiday. Manufactured holiday does not mean to go to
change their habits. So I guarantee you she probably didn't
get anything, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
It might be correct.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Maybe it got her some Walmart flowers.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, used to be flowers.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
So other than that, we watched some movies of the weekend.
We just kind of like chill that home. We we
did go out to the theater, but like I think
Friday night, we watched this movie called rebel Ridge on
Netflix with your with your boy uh Adrian, Adrian Pierre,
I can remember Adrian or Aaron Aaron Pierre. You know

(07:57):
the Next Green Lantern.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Ye right, it was good. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
I thought it was cool. I thought it was gonna
be like a Rambo type situation, but it wasn't and
I appreciated that. I thought it was very very well done.
So if you get a chance, listeners, go check out
rubber Ridge on Netflix. Is about a guy goes through
a town. They steal his money because they're crooked police.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Trying to get his brother, trying to get his his
little cousin, cousin out yet his cousin out of jail
on me.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, and yeah, there's it's pretty tense. It's pretty tense.
The whole movie honestly, very good, Like, yeah, it has
a very good tense vibe, which I enjoy. It wasn't
as actiony as we thought it was going to be,
but it was very like thriller thriller esque.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, that's what I like about it.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, so good movie. And then for we didn't go
Valentine's Day because Caditra had to work on Saturday and
this Valentine's Day was like what Friday night or whatever. Yeah,
so we were like, all right, cool, we'll go to
the movies on Saturday. We'll do dinner in a movie
at Alamo Draft House, which is like down the road
from us, and we went and saw Love Hurts We
didn't go see Captain America because I figured Captain America
is going to be packed and I can I can

(09:00):
wait a week for that. But we went and saw
this Love Hurts movie. It's got y Kwan yeah, from everything, everything, everywhere.
All I wanted short round. Yeah, Ariana Deos, Yeah, Ariana
DeVos and you know he's he's like this ex like
I don't know, mobster guy, hit man guy, and he

(09:22):
kind of like ran away from the life. So we
could you know, start his own life and he's selling
houses and he's doing really good. And then the Ariana
de Bos like shows back up and kind of like
ruins everything.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, I saw it. Uh, we did it came out?
It was yeah, it was it was something. It was something.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
They didn't care for it too much. I didn't mind it,
you know, I thought it was I thought it was
entertaining enough. You know. It's just it's kind of like
a I don't know, beat him up movie. I guess
there's a lot of fighting, a lot of good choreography,
at least I feel so.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well. First of all, the move is done by a
start director, so you would think that.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
The so so let me okay before before I even
go off here because it was pretty unanimous.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
No one really liked this.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Movie, so it was it was done by a stunt director.
I think it's a stunt director that was on John Wick,
if I'm not mistaken. I didn't like the actions sequelces.
I did not like them at all. There were like
a couple here and there that was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
The whole movie overall was horrible. I did not like the.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Movie at all. It was tough. That was a tough watch.
That was really really watch.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, that was a tough watch.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Oh man, I feel sorry for hearing the baths because
she's a she's a very good actress, and it seems
like she can't get her footing on the ground ever
since she won an oscar.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
She cannot get like, if she's in the film, you
can almost probably dock it. That's not gonna be a
good film. You know. It sucks that she's been in
that she's in this category now.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
She was in Argyle. That movie was that movie sucked?
She was Yeah, she was in Wish was bad, the
Disney the Disney movie Wish.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
She did the other movie that was on Amazon.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
It was about a chef and it was kind of
like The Bear a little bit in a way, but
a little bit more creepy and scary that move. That
movie didn't do good. That got buried on Amazon. That
movie got buried and just just Siberia.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, I guess she's just having a hard time.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
This is I hate it because she's such a pretty girl.
For such a pretty woman, such a good actress. She
got the Oscar for that movie, not Going with the Wind,
but I don't know why I was get the wrong
The West Side Story, Yeah, got the Oscar for that
for Best Supporting Actress. And it's like she cannot find
her footing in these movies.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
She was also on Hamilton, like the original.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Stage play, Yeah, the original.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's like, you do Hamilton, then you do Westside Story
and then yeah, I guess you just don't. You kind
of have some trouble.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
It's tough, man, it's tough. I did like Marshall Nich.
Marshal Nich was cool. I was very shocked to see
him have enough have a little acting chops there, you know. Yeah,
most time you see football players, they don't really get
acting chops, and then what the moves they do is
not really that good.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, see.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I think those two characters, like him and the other
guy were fun characters just because, like you know, they
they were a goofy henchmen.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Right.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
So they're they're having conversations while hunting this guy down.
They're like, oh my my wife kicked me out of
the house again, and he's like, hey man, you just
need to do X, Y and Z.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
I would have much rather have seen the move between
those two guys, if I'm just keeping it, I would
have much rather have seen a movie between those two,
which I seen.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I will say I was kind of distracted while the
movie was going on because again, we went to an
Alamo draft House, right, yeah, and Alamo draft House Studio movie,
Real Epick or whatever. They're all kind of the same
like concept where you go in, you order food, they
bring you the food, you eat it while you watch
the movie. Right, So during the pre show, we order
our food, and our food doesn't come in until like

(12:50):
a good twenty five minutes into them film.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
What's long we order?

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I ordered a chicken sandwich and she got chicken tenders.
Oh okay, but I mean still, it wasn't like a
lot of food or anything, but we ordered that and
we order two margarita's, and then even the margaritas took
a while. I don't think the margarita showed up until
the movie started.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Was it pack?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
No, not that theater anyway. I mean Captain America was
playing that night too, so I assume they were kind
of stretched then, maybe from from the Marvel business. Those
types of movie theaters. You can't really tell how the
business is because there's no concession stand, right, you just
walk into the theater, so you can't really be like,
you can't walk in and be like, oh wow, they're
packed today because everyone just goes straight to the theater.

(13:30):
So we order the food, we're waiting for the food.
Stuff's taking forever to come out, and like, I'm watching
the movie, but I'm also watching all these waiters come
through with everybody else's stuff, and I'm just like, where's
where's our chicken sandwich? Where's our chicken tenders? And so
chicken sandwich shows up, but the chicken tenders don't Kididro
doesn't get her food until like a good ten minutes

(13:51):
after me. Yeah, so that was also distracting because I'm like, yeah,
I'm eating this chicken sandwich, but also I'm like, where's
where's the chicken tenders? So bring out the chicken tenders?
Cadedra orders extra ranch because she or orders extra ranch,
and it took us three times of asking for the
ranch for them to bring out the second ranch cup.
And at that point the movie was almost over, and

(14:13):
we had ordered a second Marguerite at that point, and
we didn't even get the second Margarita until, like, I
don't know, fifteen minutes before the end of the movie,
because the move the movie is a short movie. It's
an hour and a half as it should be, right. Yeah,
the whole time, I'm just paying attention to these servers
because I'm just like, where's the rest of our order?
And I'm not paying yet because they they brought out
like the check and I haven't like put my card down,

(14:37):
so I'm just like I'm waiting for everything, like I.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
Won't get everything. I won't get everything that I have order,
and then I'm not gonna sit and pay for some
of that I didn't order.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, so I think I was a little distracted from
the movie because I was also too busy waiting for
the rest of our stuff. I don't think I viewed
the movie the same way that you viewed the movie
because I had distractions.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Good. I mean, it's not good that you had this diractions.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
You waiting patiently to get your food was better than
watching a movie.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
It was a distraction from the movie.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, it was a distraction from the movie. So that
that helped. That helped a lot. I'm having for you.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
After Love Hurts, we came back home and we want
I finally went, I finally got to watch that piece
by piece movie with Pharrell, and I really enjoyed it.
I if you haven't seen it yet, I think it's
on Peacock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely go check it out.
It was really good, very it was more like documentary style.
I thought it was just like a biopic, but it
was like documentary with Lego. And I learned Farrell's has

(15:36):
done a ton of stuff, like he is rich rich.
I didn't realize that he did the McDonald's like like
jingle yep, like that's him. Like he even like producing
for Kendrick Lamar, even like I mean, I mean he
produced for everybody, but even like up to Kendrick Lamar.
I was like, oh wow, he's really he's like rich
rich the.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Creator a lot of guys, a lot of guys.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
He's touched all all type of music, not just a
hip hop, he says, rock.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
He worked with No Doubt for a while. That was
a that was a chunk in the movie, quin Stefani.
That was really interesting, really good movie, really interesting. Highly
recommend it. But enough about my weekend. Let's let's get
into our email segment.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Here.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
You've got mail, because we got we actually we.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Have a couple.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
We have a couple emails and voicemails today from who
well Zach.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, all right, that's about right.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Come on, man, he's our loyalistener.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
You can I don't mean to say it like that,
but I was just like, oh, okay, all right, Like
because you said he had a couple of emails, I
was expecting to see like, oh, we got more emails
from other people.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Well we also have a voicemail from somebody else.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Ok cool, Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Hey their listeners nonetheless.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
But hey, I'll take it. Hey whatever.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
But anyway, so Zach writes, and if anybody wants to
email us, you can email us at on the Go
Pot twenty twenty three at gmail dot com. You can
even send us a voice note on at On the
Go pot twenty twenty three at gmail dot com, or
send us a voice note through Instagram at on the
Go with Jacob and James. If you don't want to email,
you can send us a voice thing or whatever and
we'll play it on the show. So the email says,

(17:14):
what film predictions do you guys have that happen that
can happen within the next five to ten years. Here
are some of mine. They will announce a Jaws movie,
either reboot or a sequel. Hopefully films go to cheaper
budgets after Secret Wars and Doomsday, and I think we
should see more international box office success where films overseas
do really well here that sucks. Ideas, what do you

(17:37):
see happening in the next five to ten years?

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I mean I think much of the same. I mean
you must just the same as in having it out.
I don't do to see anything different. Yeah, I think
overseas don't probably get any worse. It's more probably getting
even worse, especially with the economy. You think with the
way to President is just pretty much taking a piss
on everybody, and it's terror putting Terrace out between four
Doco on seven. So it's probably a lot of coaches

(18:03):
don't really like it right now, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
So.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
You know, you know, it's kind of tough right now.
So I'm about to get back into graces.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
You know.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
It's a lot of stuff going on right now. It's
a lot of moving parts. So, I mean, we don't
see anything happening anything different. I mean, hopefully superhero movies
get a little bit better, hopefully Marvel gets to act together.
I don't know, it's just it just depends. It's just
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think we live in the world where you.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Get a number of reboots, you get number of sequels, franchises.
I don't really see that's changing. The model works. It
works for thelm. They make money. So I really don't
see anything happening any different.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, well, you know, it's funny you mentioned reboots and
Zach mentioned Jaws getting a reboot or a sequel, and
that that's something that I think has been talked about
for for like a couple of years, like the ear
rise or whatever. But I feel like Jaws is too
much of a classic to reboot.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
It is a classic, so it was kind of the
first blockbuster.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah, it's too much of a classical reboot or sequelized.
I mean, they have sequalized it, but I think at
this point it's like too far.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Had that that being said, however, you do have Jaws
likes movies, right, Like we have the meg which is
probably the biggest, like the biggest blockbuster or shark movie recently,
the mech series. And then I mean you have like
what Deep Blue c that came out, you have Open Water.
I mean there's shark movies a diamond does in.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
A year, especially on Netflix.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah, So I don't really see like Jaws ever really
getting touched again, especially with Spilberg still around, or I mean,
it could always be the case we're like, hey, look
we don't I don't want to do one, but if
a good script comes my way. I do agree with
the cheaper budgets. Hopefully movies do get like cheaper budget wise.
I mean, some of it's just because like the actors, right,

(19:48):
you get all these big name actors in it, and
you balloon your budget. That's kind of a that's kind
of an issue.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well yeah, I mean it's when.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
The get into it a little bit after we get
the at the answer his voicemail about Captain America because
Captain America belonged to the hell of a budget.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know where that budget went. I kind of
I kind of have a clue.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Where it went, but a lot of that's from reshoots too.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, that's all I about to say.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Well, like I said, we'll talk about it once we
get through with the email voicemail section.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yeah, but yeah, I do agree with him on the
cheaper budget. Hopefully budgets get cheaper, not just for Marvel movies,
but just like across the board. Like you can make
a good, solid movie on a couple million dollars, you
need to go to the triple or double digits sometimes
depending on what you like, what your concept in your
story is, you know. Yeah, So let's move on to
this email from Hoel as he as he calls himself

(20:43):
in the in the audio, so I'm gonna play this
for you, James, and he really wants to know your
opinion less so my opinion? Does that tend to be mean?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
All right?

Speaker 5 (20:54):
So I'm gonna play it for you and just is.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
It Is it suitable for podcasts?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, it's suitable for a podcast. It's about a dreaminghead.
And we'll get into it. We'll get into it all right, okay.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Cool?

Speaker 7 (21:07):
Hey Jacob, Hey James. I need your guys' help. My
name is Ool and I had a crazy dream last night.
I need your guys help interpreting the dream.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
See.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
I had a dream that I was sitting at some
pub relaxing, having a nice drink after hard day's work.
And this pub is in some foreign land. I don't
know where, but it was in some foreign land, and
they happened to be doing a slave.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Auction that day at the pub.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
I don't agree with slavery, and it wasn't the normal
kind of slavery we all think of.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
This was like sexy slavery of like.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
Hot half half cat, half human, half lizard half human people,
you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And me, you know, I saw one of them.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
She was like a half lizard half human creature and
I felt bad for her. She seemed really distraught and upset,
and she was within my price range.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Maybe the good guy I am, I.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Bought my bought her and after leaving the pub a
shorter Look, I'm not some crazy person. I'm not gonna
do anything horrible to you. I actually just want to help.
She didn't seem to trust me at first, but after
freeing her letting her know that she's welcome to leave
go wherever she wants, you know, I won't stop her.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
She's free.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
I then explained to her that if she doesn't have
a place to go, she's welcome to stay at my cottage.
I have a spare room until she's get on her
feet figure out what to do with herself. Her so,
not trusting me, decides to take me up on my offer,
and after a while we get to know each other.
We become friends, grow close, and even to grow intimate,

(22:48):
and everything seemed to be happy.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
In our old lives.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Everything was going great, but then the British Empire shows
up and they're here to collect a bounty on my
head because what this girl didn't know was that I
used to be a wanted pirate and apparently the British
Empire is still angry at me and want to arrest me.
So we have to quickly flee, flee my cottage and

(23:14):
escape the British before they capture me and have me executed.
And then I don't remember the rest I woke up,
but uh, yeah, any help you could give would be great.
All right, I really don't know how to process this one.
Got a lot of thoughts. H James, I especially need
to hear your opinion on this, so I know you're
always very insightful and Jacob, if you're gonna say something,

(23:37):
I mean, I don't want to hear it, but uh yeah,
I would like to hear your thoughts. And once again,
it's it's who weel, it's who. Well, it's Spanish, and
any any advice you guys give, I'd love to hear it. Thanks,
keep being awesome, guys love the podcast.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Oh well, okay, yeah, that's that's all all right.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I don't really don't have an opinion. I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna wreck my brain on
trying to come up with the opinion.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
It is Jacob a city, so I'm not cold really
wrecked my brain about coming up with the pinion with this.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Okay, thanks Joel, Well, well thanks for I appreciate it, man, Yeah,
I appreciate it. God bless you.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
He's like coming up on the street and seeing these
people that got middle problems and he just bypass them,
give them a little chains own by business.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
You listen to you listen to their story and you
go and buy some business. Is that? What is that?

Speaker 5 (24:38):
What it is? You're gonna You're gonna smile and wave.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, Jacob, I'm not doing this. We're not doing this. Man.
I love this podcast. I appreciate it. Well, we're not
gonna do this, all right.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
He wanted, he really wanted your opinion on this, and
I gave him my opinion.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Again.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
On the Girl podcast with Jacob and James.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's decent.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
SNL fiftieth anniversary this past weekend. I had actually found
out about this through my job. I think it was
like Monday, because I texted you on Monday or Tuesday,
I think, and they were talking about it on the
on the morning news about it that like they were
gonna do this big homecoming concert and they were gonna
do like this big three hour episode of SNL on

(25:44):
a Sunday, which is like the first time SNL's ever
been on a Sunday in the fifty years it's been going.
And Peacock has like all these documentaries on SNL, So
I was like, you know what, this would be good
like content homework for me to do. Let me let
me watch these documentaries. I'll let James know. I don't
know if you got a chance to check any of
it out.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I mean I watched like the highlights. I mean not highlights,
but I watched some of it.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
I was going back and forth between that and the
NBA All Star Game that Sunday.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Fair enough, I was watching some of it. I saw
I Muma.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Let you know, it was like some of the jokes
didn't really larn for me. Off the bat, I don't know,
like some of those jokes didn't really land for me.
I liked the Black Jeopardy stuff. That was pretty cool, right.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
I'll tell you most SNL stuff is like really hit
and miss.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's miss.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
And I'll tell you about my journey through SNL last week,
because last week for me, James was a lot of
SNL and a lot of Kendrick Lamar. It was. It
was a very very mixed week, very very mixed on themes.
But so I started by watching the SNL movie on
Netflix because they put it on they put it on
Netflix Saturday night. Finally got to watch it. Great movie,

(26:48):
loved it, And immediately afterwards I went and watched the
first episode of SNL because Peacock again Peacock has all
fifty seasons of SNL and its entirety. So I was like,
you know what, this movie was so good. Let me
go watch the first episode and it was cool. It
was I don't know if you've done that, but I
do recommend it because it's really cool to see, like.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Well, I already know so much about You're.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Right right, a fair point. But if if anybody hasn't,
I recommend watching the first the Saturday Night Movie and
then going and watching the first episode SNL because they
they did their homework so well. Everything really runs together,
like you see all the chaos of the behind the
scenes stuff, and then the movie ends with that first skit,
and then you go watch SNL and it opens with

(27:31):
that first skit.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
It was cool.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
It was a cool experience to be like, oh, this
is all the crap they like, all the crap.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
They went through.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Let did this, you know? And so then I noticed
like they had all these documentaries by Usinel, so like
I watched like they were there were documentaries about the
writers and like all the crap the writers go through,
like they're essentially they essentially have two days to write
like these skits and then they have like another two
days to like really rehearse and and get the skits approved.

(28:00):
And then even even if they have everything ready to go,
they might not get the skit on the show because
during dress rehearsal is when Lauren Michaels really decides like
what goes and what stays. Thought, that was really interesting,
you know, all the writers are talking about oldest stress
and all the crap they go through. They essentially pull
all nighters from like Tuesday to Thursday, was getting everything together.

(28:22):
There was another documentary talking about like all the people
who went through SNL, I mean all the all the
great comedy actors obviously like Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray,
like from back in the day, even the now Keenan Thompson,
he's like the oldest or not the oldest, but he's
the longest running SNL character.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Right now or after years years.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
There was one about the music. There was a two
hour documentary that Questla did about all the music on SNL,
and that was really phenomenal to me because they were
just talking about how like even I mean obviously today
but even over the years, like you kind of weren't
a musical act until you were on SNL. Essentially, that's
true was the vibe I got, and they they really

(29:03):
allowed anybody and everybody, Like there was a story about
how John Belucy brought in brought in this like really
like hardcore punk band and they started like a mosh
pit during the during the show or whatever, remember, and
that was a huge deal. But like John Belushi doing
that really elevated that band's like notoriety. That's how they
got bigger is because they've got to be on SNL.

(29:26):
And then there was a story about Rage Ridging the
Machine because the episode that Raging Is the Machine was on,
there was like a Republican candidate for presidency that year,
I think it was like two thousand and eight or whatever,
like before Obama or like before the second term.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Of Bush probably probably.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, either way, he was a Republican candidate and Redging
this Machine was on. And what they what Rage Against
the Machine wanted to do was they wanted to put
the American flag upside down on their speakers in the
background right while they performed. Well, Lauren Michaels wasn't really
into that, so he's like, no, you can't do that,
and then like thirty seconds before they went on air.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
They did it.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
They put the flag up there, and there was this
whole thing where like the crew like they were struggling
with the band to get the flag off the off
the speakers before they went on air, and they eventually
got the flag off and then Raging Machine performed and
then they essentially that was their first performance of the night, right,
so they so they essentially told Raging his Machine like, hey,

(30:24):
you don't have to come back, like we're not going
to do the second performance. We're actually going long on time.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Kyle. Where happens when you have a band called Rage Machine? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Right, Well that's what Tom Morella said in the documentary.
He's like, you're going to tell the band that says,
f you, I won't do what you tell me what
to do, Like you're gonna tell us what to do?
Like have you all heard the song? But anyway, so
the bass player had like balled up the American flag
and their room was right across from that presidential candidate guy,

(30:54):
and so he went to go he balled up the
flag and he went to go throw the balled up
in America flag at this candidate. But that guy was
during it. He was doing a skit at the time,
and in the dressing room was like his family. So
the guy, the bass player throws the ball at the
family and then Secret Service like surround them, and it
was it was a whole thing, but it was like

(31:15):
a really interesting story. And then you know, they talked
about Kanye because Kanye has been on the show like
five times, and I guess like every time, yeah, and
I guess because like every time Kanye has been on
the show, like I don't know, he's always been a
diva because he's Kanye.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Of course, like Kanye is the reason why they started
doing like full sets for some of these musicians like that.
Before it was just like hey, you just get on
the stage and you perform. And then he was the
one who like threw a fit because he needed like
you know, lights or whatever. And so that's what started
that on SNL. But it was the last time that
Kanye was on and like at the end of the show,

(31:50):
he wanted to like make a speech, so he had
all the casket up on the stage and he made
like this huge, like really awkward, like weird speech about
like you know how it's okay to have different opinions
because you know he's wearing the Maga hat at this time,
and you know it's it's like this really weird speech,
like he did it all the way up until like
they were done airing. Well, it's almost like he hold

(32:12):
he held the crew hostage, and Keenan Thompson was like yeah.
As soon as he called everybody on stage, I left,
like I wasn't gonna do that before him, Like what,
I was out of there because there was there's another
actress on SML right now, and I forget her name,
but she's you know, she's a black woman, Leslie Jones. No,
not Leslie Jones, it's somebody else. It's a younger it's

(32:34):
a younger woman.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh okay.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah. And it was like right around the time that
she first started, so she was like, yeah, I had
first started. So I got up on stage with the
rest of the cast because I'm like, oh, I'm trying
to be part of the team or whatever. And then
she's like and then Connie is doing this speech and
I'm looking around like there's no other black people on stage,
Like I don't know where Keenan Thompson went.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
That's one of the moments. You got a to night,
you gotta go. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Well, that's what Keenan Thompson said. He was like, no,
I wasn't gonna do that. That's yea.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
I remember, I remember. I remember all the times he
has been on there. I saw all performances that when
Kanye was on there. His when he was on there,
it was definitely something. It was definitely musty TV. As
I say, the least when he has been on SNL
it has been musty TV.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
But hey, yeah, you know what you're getting out of Kanye.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
So I mean, when you go and bring an IS
show to your to your IS show, maybe letld you expect.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
That is true, That is very true. But I that
documentary was really really cool. And then that on on
Friday night or saturd Yeah, Friday night, they had a
home coming concert where they just had a bunch of
musical acts like play for the SNL cast, Past Present,
Future or whatever, and they had like a lot of
cool like Mac Mint of that. Sorry, they had a
lot of cool mashups like post Malone performer Nirvana, so

(33:50):
it was like post Nirvana. How thought that was a
notable performance. Lady Gaga and Andy Samberg did a bunch
of Lonely Island songs, which I thought that was really cool.
They did like a medley, which is really great. And
then Will Ferrell and this other actress and I assume
they're playing characters from SNL and like, granted, I haven't
seen a lot of SNL over the years, so I

(34:11):
don't know all the skit references. But they were these
two characters who were like these really overly white like
music teachers. They were very just very innocent sounding or whatever.
And they did they did a bunch of like covers
and I want to play this one for you because
I thought it was just funny. It's it's them covering
Kendrick Lamar is not like us. So here it goes.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I see dead people.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
They wanted to get your hand me down at the
party playing those sounds were playing here around cified certified
pedoph popped up.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm gonna do myself like a bit, change your.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
Tie, and that's probably any minor.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
They not like us, They not like us.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
They're not like us.

Speaker 9 (35:38):
Are Kenny Lamar and Drake Braham in the house by
the way, Maybe you two can hug it out tonight.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
In the name of love and fellowship.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
No not in hell.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Message received.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
I'm at the wist it because I I mean, not
not to say it wasn't funny, but I'm at to
watch it for myself just get just of how.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Funny it was.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, I know, of course, I mean I'm ad.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
To watch it.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
I saw like I saw like a clip of it,
and I just kind of passed it up because Will Ferrell.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
So yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Well, I don't know Will ferrell'shitt and miss for me too,
doesn't like Will Ferrell at all, like his comedy at all.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Because I was like, oh.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Another thing, Uh, they did a whole documentary about the
cow Bell skit because apparently like that that skits like
the most like famous SNL skit in the fifty years
or whatever. Like they had a whole documentary about it,
like like a whole like broke down why Will Ferrell
did the wrote the skit, like how it affected the band,
how it affected Christopher Walking. So that was pretty wild.

(36:49):
If you ever get time, I do recommend checking these
out because it's like SNL love it or hate it,
whatever you think about it is. I mean, it's a
sketch comedy show or whatever, but like just the history
of it and like the crew activity that went into it,
and just like you know, like they didn't make a
show for people, They made a show for themselves or
like Lauren Michael's idea was like, we just wanted to
make a show that made ourselves the last laugh, and

(37:11):
it kind of worked out.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think that their their best work
was in the eighties and in the early nineties after
I think once you get past that, like that early
to mid nineties, that's when it could started running.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
This course.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
I don't know whether it was because maybe they couldn't
find credible actors, especially now now it's it's definitely.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Rough to watch. You have to have they.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Out now with credible actors to really make that show
what it is like when day Chapelle's on there, the
numbers are high. The ratings are high high scusk like
through the roof high. Like I'm I'm assuming as you
gets somebody like Taylor Swift on them when she has
been on there, that's the ratings are through the roof.
But it's just like, I don't know what has happened
to this show. I mean, obviously it's still on. You know,

(37:56):
there was a good chunk of people that still watch it.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
But I don't think I think is.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
As popular as it is back as it was back then,
back in the eighties and the seventies, and it definitely
shows it really really definitely shows.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
God and I don't I don't disagree with you on
that one. I definitely think like the older stuff, well,
you also have nostalgia with the older stuff. The newer
stuff is a little too current day. I'm sure in
like ten years, like people will look back on some
of these skits and be like, actually, these weren't half
bad or whatever. You brought up Black Jeopardy, And my
favorite part about that skit was just like Eddie Murphy
doing the Tracy Morgan impression next to Tracy Morgan.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
But believe that you had those seals and what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Yeahs old school cast. Yeah that was cool. That was
a cool thing they did. They brought back all these
like all the older cast members to like reduce some
of these skits, like yeah, like we can report they
brought they brought in Bill Murray to the to do
the weekend Report. I saw it and uh he made
a joke that made me laugh because Michael Shay's reaction

(38:56):
made me laugh was like, Okay, you saw where he
did the top ten, like he did the top ten
anchors of of We Can Report, and then he's like,
and then I'm gonna do the top actor the crap,
I'm getting ahead of myself.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
And then he said, I'm not white anchors.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, the top white anchors on the top and the
top black anchors. And he's like, oh, there's only been
one black ancher like Michael sha And then he did
Michael Shay first and it's like everyone clap because he's
like number one or whatever. And then he goes and
now to the regular anchors, and then Michael she was
just like regular And like I said, that just works man.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
That was beautiful. It's that still minute parts like that
that really really works well.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
I mean it also made me laugh because I feel
like that wasn't that was. That was like Michael Shay's
general reaction. It wasn't like the script that like him
to say it was. It was really he wasn't expecting
No Murray to go there and he did.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
That was That was a funny skit. Like I saw
the Black Jeopardy. I saw that with my sorrys before
and nothing compares.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Man, I hate when people do cover music.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
I don't. I don't like Miley Cyrus's voice.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
I really don't even And I went when she did
that song, I was like, that's a that's a classic
print song and ruin in.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Because because like she did that song with Brittany Howard.
Brittany Howard's voice sounds great. Miley Cyrus sounds sounds like
she smoked like fifty packs of cigarettes for ten years
at this point, like they had her doing the SNL
homecoming concert too. She opened the concert, she did flowers,
and then she did a cover or something else. But
I'm just like, I don't. I'm not into listening to you,

(40:32):
Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah, cyboy, she might be doing super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
I heard, you know, I heard rumors about that and
it's a white lady, so people. You think people would
be happy, but I feel like people are still gonna
be upset about it.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
That's fine. You know, they be said about their own kind,
now how about it? Yeah, right, be mad at yourself, bead,
what's wont it right?

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Because you know what they're gonna say, you like, why
didn't they get Billy Ray Cyrus. That's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
But uh no, you know it was. It was fine,
you know it was.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
This is kind of sobering a little bit to watch something,
and he's like, man, it just it's just deteriorated as
time went on, Like the shows just really deteriorated.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
Because I I I've heard some of the stories and
stuff like that about how they how they do these castmates.
Because you can't tell me everybody in Living Color couldn't
have been on Saturday Line. You can't tell me that
Mad Da Mad Day, Damon Wayns, Keenan Ivory, Ways, these
guys they tried out for a Saturday Life and they

(41:33):
said no to Damon.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Damon Wayns was on SNL and he was the first
person to get fired.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
First person to get fired. Yeah, because person to get fired.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Because he was mad. They kept like shooting down his sketches,
like during during a sketch on live TV, not during rehearsal.
He did rehearsal fine, but he was like doing a
skit where he was playing a cop and he came
in on the Live sketch and he like made the
cop like really flamboyantly gay, and so Lauren's Michael Laurn

(42:02):
Michael's like fired him because that's not that wasn't the character.
Like apparently there's very little improvisation on SNL, Like a
lot of it is script it like we stick to
the t this is how we do things, or at
least it was like back in the eighties and seventies,
right the earlier shows.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
Yeah, because it's not it's not like that now now
I think you know me times Jimmy Fou is a
broken character all these shows.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yeah, I mean also with the digital wage and the
way things are, like, you can kind of do that
without it really affecting you. Like back then live TV
was like you gotta be a little bit more strict.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Well yeah, I mean yeah, ye had to go to
VI Johnny Carson trying to take now the Johnny Carson guy.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
So it's like I understand you know this is yeah,
like I say, man, the end.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Of the Color well, if you that show was drastically
better than SML, and it never got quite the love
that it should help. Guiden and Kean Aravan Waynams developed
probably one of the best shows.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
But you know, at that time there he figured that, hey,
you guys not gonna give me.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
You know, you guy's not gonna let us have the SML.
We we'll develop a show where we have nothing but comedians.
And it was a show that had Jim Carrey, that's
got Jim Carrey's career, and it's just you know, David Allen,
Griz's career, Kim Wayne's, Marlon Wayne, Jamie Fox. I'm just like,
how did y'all pass up on this? How did y'all

(43:23):
pass up on these brilliant talented comedians, right, you know,
this is that kind of stuff that kind of bothers
me about Saturay Night Live.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
And then I look at Sertain knight Live.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Now you really don't you need Sertain Night Live because
everyone has a podcast or they do their own sketch
shows by themselves, right, mean Sara Knight Live anymore?

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah, anybody can do a sketch yeah, you know, and
it works.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
The fiftieth SMIL was the best and the worst of
what Saturay Night Live has to call.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
Unfortunately, unfortunately it's the best and worst what SML has
to call.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, I don't know how long this show's gonna keep running,
you know.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
But I say, I've been dealing with SNL for folks
for some time now.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
I was just praising the history of it. I suppose the.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
History of it because it's a fascinating show.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Right because I mean, I don't I don't watch any
of the newer stuff. I only you know, I only
watched it to study up for this segment essentially. But
the history is what really just like, Wow, it's incredible
it made it as long. And you're correct, like, there
are probably other better shows out there. Like I said
in Living Color, Matt TV did it for a.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
While, Man was amazing. I just love TV.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
So there are other shows that have probably done it
better over the years. Just for whatever reason, SNL six
around some of those.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Politics, you know, some of those politics little you know,
Lauren Michael's NBC. Yeah, you know, it's it's a whole
bunch of still that you could really really point to,
and it's just like a deeper thing.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
It's it's it's all a kind of a game in
the media world.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, Michaels is big over at the NBC.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
Man, He's he's he's head honch over there Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
It is what it is.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
On the go.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Or Making Love.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
With Jacob and Jane. Moving on from SNLU Captain America,

(45:33):
Braven Braving, the Brave New Bird, Brave New World came
out over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Rave New Bird, Brave New Bird.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah, it came out, a big movie. Don't know if
you heard about it. I certainly have.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I mentioned before.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
At the beginning of the episode that, like can you,
I hadn't seen it yet. We'll probably see it in
another week or two, So feel free to go.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Spoil full spoilers.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
I mean, I don't really care about being spoiled.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Spoiled at this point.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Marvel movies are kind of like the same or Dimond
dozen at this point, So please tell me your thoughts
on this movie, the good, the bad, what even comes next?

Speaker 6 (46:06):
I mean the good the good in the movie is
that Anthony McKee is a very good Captain America. He
is a very very good Captain America.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
He won me over.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
He could definitely leave a movie I don't want to
hear about no DEI. He's definitely good in this film.
The problem where it lacks is the story. And we
knew this going in. We knew the other problem with
the reshoots and they got so much going on, so
they got to explain the internals, you know, with the
celestials coming out, coming out from the water, understandable.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
He got to explain that. But then they also had
to reach all the way back. They didn't have to,
but they did this.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
They reached it all the way back to two thousand
and eight when a little movie came out called Incredible Hulk,
and they reached back for that to dig up the
Leader and dig up Betty Ross again with liv Tyler
with spoiler she was in the movie. Well it's only
for like a couple of seconds, for a couple of minutes,
and they dub her up and I'm just like, why

(47:02):
did you feel the need to dig this dick this
up after twenty years?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Well, the movie should have been.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
Focused around Captoin America the entire time in Isaiah, it
was focused around something that was totally internally different, and
it was just so many stories working against each other.
You gotta explain this, You gotta explain that. You gotta
explain the giving the Adventures initiative together, because as of
right now, we don't have adventures.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
There's no Avengers.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
Yeah, there's no Adventures, So yeah, that would make sense
that you have to explain the Avengers. And you know,
well Ross wants he wants Sam Wilson to get the
Adventures together, and you know, Sam was like, well, what
you disband the Adventures, so now you want us to
get back together again. Now now you want the forming

(47:46):
of Adventures. So they talk about that for like a
little brief time. Never again, they explained the celestial. They
found that there was some material that's stronger than vibranium,
and you know what that is, and amanium. So they
finally finally discovered that. So you know what that means
X man time, I guess whatever. Cool, So they dug

(48:08):
that up. They talked about there for a brief second.
Then all of a sudden, I know, UK saw this
move to call uh.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
The Margeria the Majorian candidate.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
It was a movie from back in the sixties where
these soldiers, these groups of soldiers were uh, pretty much
brainwashed by the government.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I'm aware of it.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Yeah, so basically that's the whole part of this movie
and Captain America trying to find the leader, which I
thought it was just.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
A horrible villain, terrible villain. Uh, he had this green skin.
He was like Amphibian, you look like.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Here's my opinion on how the layer works or looks.
I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
He's horrible, I think.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Well, also, first of all, this he doesn't look the
same from the concept art or even the Funko Papa
came out, So there's that.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
And then.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I, Okay, this.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Is gonna sound really weird because like Incredible Hulk is
technically part of the MCU, but it's all so kind
of not because it was it came up before the
NCU started and it got folded in, right, So I
think the Leader's design would work better if it was
part of that movie universe. Still, yeah, doubt it was like, look,
they had the Abomination that movie. He doesn't look like

(49:16):
the Abomination on the comics, but that that design works
for that movie.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
It works for the movie. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
And then when when they started doing the Abomination for
sche Hulk, they made them look more like the Abomination
on the comics, which is fine.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
The Leader, I feel like they really.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Should have made him look more like the comics because like,
whatever ghoulish version of him is in this film that
I've seen from like clips online, I do not like it.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
It's weird, it's grotesque, and I get like, yeah, he's
gamma radiated. But the MCU has been really good about
doing comic accurate costumes and looks to where why did
you not do that for this character who was a
big hulk villain.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
This is take a time, man. The second time they
missed over that, they did have a modot and now
they're doing it with the leader. Yeah, I don't like it.
He looks terrible. He looks like a ball sack with
a ball cap on it.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
But yeah, he kind of does.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
He looks absolutely horrible, man, and it's just a terrible villain.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
And John Carlo Esposito, who was supposed to be the
leader of the Serpent, the Serpent of the Society, and
you know, they re edited that. They took that out
because one of my favorite wrestlers, seth Rollins, he was
originally supposed to be in this film too, And yeah,
they deleted it. They reshoot it. They did so many
reshoots with this film. And I think that's the biggest

(50:33):
problem with this film.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
It kind of feels like three separate movies, right. It
does a Serpent Society and then you also have like
the eternals like continuation, but then you have like the
Leader in the Rad Hulk stuff. It really feels like
three different ideas from three different kind of movies jammed
into one. Captain in American movie they could have just
done Captain America in the Serpent Society, where they could
have just done Captain America and the Leader in Brad

(50:56):
Hulk or whatever. I don't really agree with that that
I don't like doing Hulk stuff without the Hulk, and
they keep doing this to the Hulk man like mcu
has been so like horrible to the Hulk ever since
the first Avengers movie.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Oh yeah, what, I've treated.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Him worse and worse every film, and now like he
can't even fight his own villains, like big villains like
the Leader in Red Hulk or big antagonist to the Hulk.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Oh yeah, I agree, I agree, And it just doesn't
make any sense. And I'm just like, what the hell
is this? What the hell am I watching right now?

Speaker 6 (51:26):
And like it sucks because the acting is on point,
The acting is great.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
The interaction between Ross and Sam Wilson is this man,
it's really good. It's really really good. You know, his
friend not so much the kid he plays the Falcon
Falcon Yeah, I don't really care for him that much,
but you could feel, you feel like there's something there,
but it's hard for me to judge. But a simple
fact you did so many reshoots. Yeah, so it's like,
how can I really tell what you really did if

(51:53):
you did so many reshoots?

Speaker 5 (51:54):
You know, it feels like they overcorrected because this is
the first Captain American movie without Chris and it feels
like maybe they just thought about it way too much
in the process, you know what I mean, where it's like,
we got to get this right.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Let's let's do some reshoots. This isn't right.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
This is it's like you're too close to the to
the project to really see the damage you're doing.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Well, okay, so we all know what Facon and Winter
Soldier that was. I actually liked that show. That's one
of my favorite shows. Off to Disney Plus, I really
didn't to care for too much on Disney Plus, so that.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Was one of my favorite Marvel shows I actually did.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Like, which could have also just been the Captain America movie.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Could have been. It really could have been.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
And I like some of the stuff that was in movies,
you know, Captain America Sam Wilson trying to address the
fact that, hey, I'm a black guy flying through the
ad with a Captain America shield. I'm not I'm not
the the boy scout. I don't look I don't have
blonde hair and blue eyes like Steve Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Did you know what I'm saying? And they did.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
They didn't do a lot of it in this movie,
and it was they only gave me like a little
taste of it, And I really wish they would have
gave a little bit more of that, because that's what
makes Sam Wilson's so good, because it's his internal struggle
to have confidence in his own self and all that I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
A black man and I can't make any missteps. I can't.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
I have to follow these certain types of rules because
if I don't, then people gonna look at me totally different,
you know. And then the stuff with him in Isaiah
is even more impactful. And I feel like that was
I feel like that was tooken out too as well,
So it's like we only got a little tasting.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Crumbs of it.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Once again, Disney giving us crumbs of stuff and not
giving us the full, not giving us the full plate.
And some of that's because they don't want to piss
off conservative viewers.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
But at the same time, you still pissed them off
because yeah, they're pissed off no matter what. So you
still pissed them off because the movie's not good.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
And now they feel like they're validated because oh yeah, see,
wherever we add the I. You got Israeli woman that
was like a black widow. She was like she was
trained of the Natasha's Natasha's Burgad. So yeah, the Israeli woman.
You got a Hispanic person that's falcon, and you got

(54:05):
a black man that's that's a in America.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, so it's like you got three things working againsthit.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
So you know, the conservatives they feel like they feel
like they're embolding a boy what just happened. And then
you have another group of people that's just like me
and you, who just say these movies are just not good.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
These movies are just not good. And like I say,
the movie is not a bad movie.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
And thember be a long thing with the conservative because
they're like, oh, look they agree, yeah, no, but we
agree for different reasons.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
We agree for different reasons because the movie is not
bad Jacob.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
Anybody tells you that this movie is on par with
The Missing with the Marvels, they a bs and NBA
bs and Captain America is way better than Marvels. Okay,
there we was just certain things in this film that
just didn't work. And it sucks. It really does suck.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
You know.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
I read that Vulture article about, you know, behind the
scenes and how all the different things that was going through.
You know, Harrison Ford was grump. He was hard to
work with. The director says, he's always it's always grump.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
But I mean, what do you expect when you get
a first time directed to him a movie?

Speaker 3 (55:10):
You know what I'm saying? Like the ISAA.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
I think I think the guy that did this movie,
he did The Falcon and Winter Soldier, which did a
good job with that. But Kevin Fagett went for cheap
and decided to get this guy a whole motion fee
motion feature film.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
And I don't just think, I just think that wasn't
the way to go. That just wasn't the way to go.
Stop going for cheap all the time. Like, the biggest
problem I have a Marvel right now is directors they're
choosing these disease.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
He's uh, small young directors, which I have no problem with.
But if they're never done a big link to a
big link fit your film such as this, you kind
of have to go with the proven commodity rights. Yeah, like,
that's exactly why you brought back to Russell Brothers because
you know everything else was feeling, That's.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Why you brought them back, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
So it's like, it's very, very annoying that what's been
going on with Marvel and we're just getting started. We
got two more movies left of Marvel movies before we
get to Doomsday. We there, we got too long, and
they have hinted absolutely nothing. The end credit scene was
a big nothing burger, you know. They Anthony McKie sambles
and he captures the other leader. He finally you know,

(56:19):
using that little that little holding sale that they had
the man with Civil War.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
How many?

Speaker 5 (56:23):
How how many movies are gonna end like this? I
feel like I've done it at least one time too
many at this point, oh Man talking to somebody in
a jealous sale at the end of the movie.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
I've been watching so many YouTube shows, shows, that I like.
And they've been talking about the worst uh end credit
scenes and it's like marvel Is, they keep doing it
over and over and over again, and it's like they
get to absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
They lead to nothing.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Yeah, so apparently, you know, the leader was like, uh,
you think you're the only heroes, you and your heroes here,
there's more. I've seen the probabilities. I've seen it in
my head. So apparently the heroes. That's more heroes. So
I guess you saw the Secret Wars all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Yeah, the other worlds like the multiverse again, hint, they
got the multiverse because this is the multiverse aga, but
we haven't really been in the multiverse, like we've we've
tickled it, we've touched on it, but we haven't actually
been in the multiverse. Again, Fantastic Fantastic four the first
movie to actually take place on another Earth in this universe,

(57:27):
Like Eternals could have been that honest, Eternals should have
been that Eternal should have been a different universe, and
then that way we wouldn't have to have shoehorn them
into this Captain American movie. No, you're right, that's my opinion.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
No, I know you're right, you one hundred percent right.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
And the thing about it is, when we first saw
these these Marvel movies back in the day, everything fit right, everything.
They were all cohesive movies, yes, that stood off by themselves,
and at the end critics scene, you knew, okay, this
is leading to this.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
But the movies you can watch them on their own,
like you could watch one of Soul on your on
their own. You don't have to watch this lead up
to this, watch this, watch that.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
Nowadays you have to watch this, watch that, watch this,
watch that, and it's like the end credits scenes are useless.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
They don't lead to anything. Yeah, and it's just stupid.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
I think that really starts showing right around Civil War
because Civil War was one of those movies where it's like, okay,
you had to have seen a couple other movies beforehand,
and then even afterwards, you know, it's like, okay, like
Infinity Civil War to Infinity War's almost a direct half.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
So it's like if you if you go to.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Infinity War without seeing Civil War, you're gonna be a
little confused, like, oh, why are the Avengers broken up?
Or even like four three because four three leads directly
into Infinity War.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Well, you know what the things about those two movies,
the difference between those two movies and the movies now
you knew what was coming.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
You're like, okay, you knew you had to have a
vehicle to how you're going to get to an Infinity.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
War, and they had it planned out just freaking right, man.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Right, And at that point you're you're locked in because like, okay,
but I've seen however many of these movies, I'm gonna
see it through like you.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
I was like, oh man, they did everything so right,
and I don't know what the hell has happened Now
I don't. It's like the most unexplainable mystery known to man.
What the hell's happened to Kevin Fye? But I can
tell you one damn thing. And we've been talking about
this on the next episode the next week. How is
it that Kathleen Kennedy catches so much showed Star Wars

(59:28):
and she's not allowed to put out any material. And
if it is she catches so much hell rightfully, so.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
As she breathes, she'll breathe.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
And there's an article about her, there's an article about her.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
But Kevin Figy has caught no flak, and I'm talking
about he's catching flat, but he's not catching it to
the degree that Kathleen Kennedy is. I'm telling you right now, Jacob,
if Thunderbolts is a flopping, because Captain Matici is a flop.
It's a flop, unfortunately. And I like this movie a lot,
but it's a flop. Ifain, if Thunderbolts flop and fantastic

(01:00:00):
full flop, and then you follow it up with dooms say,
and then well, I don't, I don't. I'm not counting
Daredevil because Dared Devil they said that that show won't
have anything to do with what's going on in the
constinuity of the MCU.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
So I'm not counting that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
But if that, if those last two movies are a
big failure, we gotta start holding this man accountable to
the fire.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Because his name's all on his name is all on.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
These movies when they when they succeed, but when they fail,
I need we need to start hold this man more accountable.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Here's a question for next time, because I know we're
running out of time here, we're almost done.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Here's a question for next time.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
If so, there's a lot of rumors that Secret Wars
and Dooms there are gonna be kind of like a
like a reboot for the universe, similar to how they
do in the comics, where it's like every so often
they kind of reboot everything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
And if they do that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
And they bring it back to like Captain America's Ironman's back, like,
is that gonna save them?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
You know what I mean? Is that gonna help?

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Or is that just gonna make things worse? Like if
you the better, if you do a reboot of the
universe and you're like, all right, now we're back to
Steve Rogers Captain America and we're back to this and
we're back to that or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Help. Yeah that that that that wouldn't make That wouldn't
make any sense. You would have just ruined everything you
would have. But see, once again, we're.

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
Just throwing off speculations and rumors because yeah, we don't
have we don't know anything.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
We don't know anything.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
And it is a big speculation that it that Doomsday
and Secret Wars will be kind of a rebuilt, like
because if you follow the comic book storyline, that's kind
of what happens, right, Like you you have the incursions
and you have secret Wars and then you know, different
worlds are meshed together and like characters are broad in
or taken out or whatever like that. So it's just
a question for next time, or a question for the

(01:01:47):
audience if they want to email us on the Go
Pod twenty twenty three at gmail dot com, like, how
do you see them rebooting the MCU? If they reboot
the MCUO, Yeah, yeah, because eventually two things are gonna happen.
Either they're gonna reboot it and it's gonna keep going
on forever, forever, forever, or there is gonna be a
definitive end to this version of the MCU and we're

(01:02:08):
not gonna have Marvel movies for a long time or
a while, and then they'll eventually bring them back. Well,
what's what's the what's the happen after Doomsday and Secret Awards?
Because that again, Captain America, like you said, it's not
doing it. It's kind of a flop, you know, it's
it's a piece together movie, multiple storylines going on, kind

(01:02:29):
of confusing Thunderbolts. We don't know what thunder Bolts is
going to be, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
All right, it's supposed to be disaster. I heard I
heard Thunderballs is said it to be a disaster.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
And Fantastic Four looks like the most promising and hopefully
it is. But the problem is, even if, if, even
if Fantastic Four is really well, it's coming in way
late in the game at this point, because then you're
gonna be followed by Secret Wars and Doomsday, which is
again we don't know anything about it. We don't know
who's going to be in it. It's not set up
properly like Infinity Warren in games were, So it's like

(01:03:00):
it's this Fantastic Four coming in too late to the
game to where it's like, oh, you finally introduced a
new element and was really new and exciting and cool,
but the audience is kind of irritated, and superhero fatigue
is a thing and it's been a thing for a
few years that like, even this cool new concept, it's
not good enough to keep the MC going. And we're

(01:03:22):
speculating this, but let's be honest. These movies are making
millions of dollars every movie. It's not like you're really
going anywhere anytimes. They're not going anywhere, But I mean,
what's the next evolution?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Well, listen to this evolution of the Superhero movie. But
what does Kevin fig You have up with sleep? That's
all I want to know. What does he have up
with sleep? You know?

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
And as of right now, there's nothing going on, and
I'm just I'm just really irritated with how everything is going.
It's how everything's shaken out from marble because it's irritated
because you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Know, it seems like, oh, oh, we're good to go,
We're just fine.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
It's like it's like the person that's just I know
this is a horrible analogy, but it's like the person's
drive of find a plane. It's like nothing's going wrong,
everything's good, and meanwhile everybody is turble.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
It's going on left and right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Yeah, craze, Yeah, they're flipping over in Toronto Air Force.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Oh we're still do We're still do. What are you
talking about? We're still doing? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
So maybe so, man, But yeah, that's something to think
about next time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yeah, man, let's talk about there next week.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
We'd be a good discussion piece. Yeah, what what can
We're gonna make the MCU you more interesting? So a
lot further due. That's all I got for you for today.
That's all you got for us today.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Cool, that's all we got. Guys.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
There you go please. Yeah.

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