March 14, 2025 • 38 mins
In this episode of On The Go with Jacob and James, the duo hits the ground running as they celebrate episode 126! Jacob and James share their thoughts on the latest shows they want to watch, including "White Lotus" and "Yellowjackets," while diving into the peculiar concept of workplace shows like "Severance." Jacob recounts his exciting moment on live radio, sharing his "old person habits," which leads to a discussion about the impact of movie lengths and the recent trend of intermissions in films. The conversation takes a turn as they tackle listener Zach's email about the pros and cons of longer movies versus shorter ones, debating if intermissions should be the norm. They also explore the intriguing leaked concept art for the upcoming "Avengers Doomsday," weighing in on the excitement and expectations surrounding it. Plus, they reflect on the Powerpuff Girls live-action series that never came to fruition, discussing the pitfalls of nostalgia in modern media. Join Jacob and James for a fun, insightful episode filled with laughter and engaging commentary!
Intro (00:00)Email: (06:06)Avengers Doomsday Concept Art: (10:11)Powerpuff Girls Live-Action Talk: (23:41)
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Put a fine Hello, lads and lasses, I'm a leper cunn.
In case you didn't know, Saint Patty's Day is right
around the corner. If you're not a fan because you're
daft in the head, then you can always stay home
and listen to the Jacob and James Undergo podcast. Listen
to jakm and James talk about all kinds of things,
from movies to life and apparently not leper cunts. And
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you can find their podcast on YouTube, Spotify or any
of less who you might listen to a podcast. So
this Saint Patrick's stay, be sure to stay safe, don't
drink and drive, and most importantly, have fun. And if
you're not celebrating, listen to the Jam James on the
Goal podcast and have fun with that too. And stay
away from me lucky charms, Rush shanky. I ain't afraid
(00:50):
of going back to prison.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh hey, sweet, some mucky shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Dang it? But the hell? Why'd you stay with me?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Jesus, I ain't dressing around like Walworth Davis to you,
I don't think so. Everything is so cold, magically delicious.
Have a wonderful saying to Patrick's Day.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You wake it up.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I feel so damn good, I got a phoneer.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm released a new episode today. Listen to it, my
boner ower. All right, everybody, welcome to episode twenty six.
James of the On the Go Show.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't know if you realize that, but we are.
I keep track a quarter of the way to two hundred.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yep, I can track sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh good, good, I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad you
do before we get started, James, how have you been?
What have you been up to since we last recorded?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
It's just you asked this question all the time, give
me saying as every night, so we got a.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Man, It's like, hey, how you doing? Okay, I'll give
you a better, better question. Have you have you watched
anything bad, good, or interesting lately that you would like
to talk about at the top?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, not yet, but I want to. I want to
start watching White Lotus.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
White Lotus is probably the show and a Yellow Jacket
shows I want to start on.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I've heard quite a bit of about Yellow Jacket. I
think friend of the show Richard watches it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, he does. He's one of the that preferred me
to it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, because it's like they were I think they were
like stranded on an island or something like a plane crash,
and I don't know. It's like supernatural but not quite.
There's like mystery and stuff to it from what I understand. Yeah, yeah,
i've heard. I've heard good things about it. That's that's cool.
That's cool. I keep saying stuff about Severance and like
it's it's an Apple show and we don't have Apple,
(02:46):
so I'm probably not gonna watch it. But I I
don't know. I keep seeing like memes about it. It's
it's like a workplace show. But the whole concept is
when you go to work your one personality, and then
when you leave work, you're another personality, like your work
life and your home life or completely separate it entirely.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's like you go through an elevator and you you've
become work mode, and then you go up the elevator
and you become you know, real life mode or whatever.
And I guess there's like some mystery going on. I
don't know, like the the work personalities are thinking something
scummy is happening. I don't know. I've just seen memes
about it. I just know there's an elevator and they're
(03:25):
called Innies and Audis and that's it.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I think I think I've seen like something before. I
think i've seen something for I'm check that out.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah it sounds cool, but it's I think it's on Apple.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah it's Apple. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, we don't have Apple, so we might have to
wait for that one. Craving the Hunters coming out on
streaming soon, so I finally get to watch that. No,
it's never got the chance to see it. I did
watch like the final battle between him and Rhino, and
it's it's it's kind of rough, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, the c G I on it is not not
that great, which is you know, upsetting how much I
went to bat for that show.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah you did. I think you did try to go
to bath for Craven. Unfortunately I did.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Man, Hey, I gotta support what I support. But I
guess sometimes you gotta you gotta pull.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
The Parachute fight fight was terrible everything. I hate that movie.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Damn Well.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't know if you saw the other day, but
I had. I had posted an audio clip I got
some on airtime on the radio.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, the the show I produce up here in
San Antonio. They it's another news show and every day
they pose a question for the audience. Instead of having
people call in, they have this thing called a talkback,
which is on the app for the radio station, and
so like you can pull up the app, you hit
the button and you know, you got thirty seconds to
(04:46):
record like a little essentially voicemail. And every day they
pose a question to like, Hey, what do you think
about this? Like let us know the talkbacks and then
like they'll play like three or four of them once
an hour or whatever. Thursday's question was what old person
habits do you have? And you know, like as whatever
age you are, like what old person habits are you?
(05:07):
Are you noticing that you're falling into or whatever? And
so they they had asked me during the break, like, oh,
what old person habits do you have? And I was like, well,
I take naptap for the show and we watch you know,
movies with subtitles.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Right, that is OK, that's pretty old.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, And that was during the break, and so I
was like, Okay, they're gonna they're gonna come back, and
like they might mention like they talk to me or whatever,
but like no, they threw it to me because he
was like, oh, hey, our producer, our producer. What he said?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He said, do what producer? Extraordinary?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah right, but no he was like, oh, I asked
my producer, Jacob, what what his old person habits are?
And what did you say, Jacob? And then I had
to like stumblely like pull the microphone to me because
I wasn't like I wasn't expecting to go on air,
and I had to like put up the microphone on
the on the board. I had to turn myself on.
So there were like two seconds of awkward silence before
(05:59):
I can finally be like, oh I said this, and
blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, I got a good
solid minute of air time. It was cool, it was exciting.
It was truly live, so man, yeah, man, it's it's
exciting and exhilarating. And like afterwards, I was like I
didn't swear, did I? Because it like, you know, we
swear in the pod. If we swear on the podcast,
(06:21):
I just edited out or whatever. But live it goes
out and I have to push a button and then
the FCC gets involved. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yep, Because I definitely gonna call you.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But it was cool. It was an exciting moment. So
I clipped it and I put it online just to
be like, hey, look look I'm I'm succeeding in life.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'll put you on there again, I hope.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So that'd be cool, that'd be that'd be really cool
to get another like minute or so of time, just
like a little anecdotes. I don't know if I could
do like a fully live show. I stumbled my way
through this podcast. I don't know if you noticed this,
but he probably could.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't know, who knows. You probably could pull it off.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, it just it just takes a certain amount of training.
True practice, practice makes perfect. You would think after one
hundred and twenty five episodes, i'd be a be better
at talking.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
But yeah, I mean we do kind of go through
some of these episodes, so I don't know. Hopefully we're
getting the best quality out of it. We look through
so many episodes a week. Yeah, we're getting.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
There every day, man, every day. It's a struggle.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Anyway, you've got mail. I got an email from Zach
Zach emoled us. Once again. This was interesting. He wants
to know where thoughts on movie theaters and off the
back of like the Brutalist, right, because Brutalist comes out,
it's like, what three and a half four hours long?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You've seen it, Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So Brutalist comes out and they announced that, hey, we're
gonna have an intermission in this movie because it's so
damn long. You guys need a break. And you said
you enjoyed the intermission. You actually really liked it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
This is I thought I was gonna break up the
film pretty but it was pretty good. It stopped at
a good point and back up a good point, had
a little ticker, and had ticker in the middle of
the film, had a little picture of the of the
family in the middle of the film, and he had
a little ticker. Had two minutes, so you got two
minutes to do what you need to do, bring yourself back.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I liked it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah. I guess it takes away the anxiety of like
having to leave during the movie because you might miss something.
So it's like, hey, if I make it halfway through
the film, I can go pee, I can go get
some popcorn or whatever and come back and still not
miss anything.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Right, that's what I liked it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, So Zach was having a conversation with his grandfather,
and I think his grandfather is in the camp of, hey,
let's do longer movies with intermissions. Zach thinks we should
do shorter movies, and he wanted to know our opinion. So,
I mean, I've said it before, I'm a fan of
the shorter films, Like I like a good hour and
a half movie, Let's get in, let's get out.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean I don't I don't really mind unless
it's you know, this is, unless it's a good movie
and the story needs to be told correctly. You know,
two hours should be pretty good enough.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Right, because I mean, how many movies truly need to
be four hours long. I kind of blame this on
the MCU, because, like I feel like Avengers Infinity War
An Endgame kind of set the precedence of, hey, we
can make a three hour long film like these blockbuster
movies and people will sit through it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Right. But it had to be.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, those had to be because they had so much
to set up. But yeah, I mean in the case
of what Avatar two, which was three hours long, I mean,
the first Avatar was almost three hours as well, but still,
Avatars two was about three hours long. It's like an
hour and a half of that movie was just like water,
literally national geographic.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Like that. That's true.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The question is would a what an intermission have saved
that movie or not. I don't think so, considering it
was kind of a boring film visually.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Still, yeah, yeah it was. I mean it didn't get good.
It didn't get good to the action, You're.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right, and the action came into like last thirty minutes,
and I don't know, the plot was kind of okay,
and apparently the next one's supposed to be much better.
But we'll we'll see. We'll see on that one.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, we'll see on that one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And then what other long films have come out since
since Avatar? There's there's been a few of them. Oh, Oppenheimer,
that's a good example, right, Oppenheimer was about three hours long.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, but Appenhauer kind of it kind of kept my
attention the entire time, did it?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah? It kept my attention?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, so see, And okay, here here's an argument. I
didn't go see Oppenheimer because it was three hours long,
just because the link. So I don't know if yeah,
I don't know if an intermission would have compelled me
to go see it, because it's still it's still three
hours long. I think I'm in the camp of shorter
movies here.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I think that's what I mean. Some moves can be short,
some moves can be long.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
It just depends on what the movie is and what
the story is, you know, like The Odyssey. I'm pretty
sure christophanola film is gonna probably be three hours long.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It has Yeah, it has to be. You can't make
that an hour.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean the Odyssey itself is a long story,
so you yeah, that need to be long. And I
could see them doing another intermission thing for that film.
If Christopher Nolan was smart, he'd probably want to.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Go that way. Yeah, all right, Well, that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's our thoughts. I'm for shorter movies. James doesn't really
care as long.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
As as long as the movie is good.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
As long as the movie is good, James doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I care.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Give me an hour and a half, that's all I need.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I don't need.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I don't need like a two hour movie of freaking
I don't know, cartoon. Yeah, I don't need to start
a moving that. But if it's an epic. If it's
an epic movie, then yeah, it has to.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Be on the go with Jacob and James.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The next thing I wanted to talk about today, James
was it was something I wanted to talk about last week,
but we kind of ran out of time. And since
the Avengers Doomsday like concept art supposedly quote unquote linked,
since it's still out there on the internet, I'm assuming
Marvel just put this out themselves. A lot of people
are already speculating like, oh, they probably did this to
excuse me, they probably did this to generate interest in
(12:16):
the movie because everyone's a little confused as to what
this movie is gonna be. So it's like, hey, if
we if we put some concept stuff out there, maybe
we'll get people will get excited about it. Have you
had a chance to look.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
At any of this, Yeah, I mean I'll look that
some of it. I mean mostly the doom stuff. You know,
I don't we don't have to go through sing by
singing of it because we don't have like a visual
of it. But you know, my thing on leak concepts
are sometimes they turn out good and sometimes they don't.
You know, sometimes drums up interest and sometimes it does.
(12:47):
I'm pretty sure, you know, when that Spider Man, know,
wing Home picture came out of TELB. Maguire and Andrew
Garfield and Tom Holland, I'm pretty sure that this that
that that was at the time, Pete Leakless. Yeah, because
then when Dona Strais came out and they had concept art,
none of it happened like I was supposed to happen
(13:08):
in the movie. So it kind of threw off, threw
off the vibe of everything that was that you thought
you was gonna see.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, Well, I was gonna make the same point that
concept art isn't necessarily what makes the film. You know,
if you go and you go back and you find
a DVD and you look at the DVD extras, they
normally have like concept art in the extras, and really
it's just to be like, hey, this was our original
thoughts compared to the final film. And sometimes characters look different.
(13:35):
Sometimes there's whole scenes that are drawn out that don't
make the movie. Whether or not they filmed it as
a you know, is a different question. So I take
this concept with the Grand assault, you have to. Yeah,
I think anybody really smart should take it with the
Grand Assault. I will say it does. The pictures themselves
do interest me, Like, I don't know, like you get
(13:57):
you get the Hulk village, you have like Doctor Doom
sitting on a throne with like Doctor Strange, and yeah
it look it looks like Pedro Pascal's Mister Fantastic is
in chained by black widows Scarlo Johansson. So some of
these things are interesting. And you know, my thought would
be again multiverse saga. So if we're doing the multiverse stuff,
(14:19):
Avengers Doomsday could be a like a version of an
Earth that instead of having Thanos, they had Doom get
the Infinity Stones. Like maybe this is what this is, right,
It's it's just a different side of things. I like
the concept, but I don't think that's what this movie
is gonna be about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like I said that, that's
what they did with Doctor Strange, and the hype for
Doctor Strange was out through the roof because everyone was
drawing all these conclusions and you know, trying to finish
It's almost like finishing art on a painting that's not
finish it because you're trying to draw your own conclusions together.
What you see and it's not really going to happen
(14:57):
that way. And I think doctor Strange taught everybody at
less because God's Strange. Everyone thought that, oh my god,
all these people are going to show up, and none
of it happened. And I think they also tippered expectations
for what you saw. So I mean, while sometimes concept
artists cool, it's best the temperate expectations of what you
might see because you don't know how to look in
(15:18):
the end.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Right, because these are just ideas. And you know, I
see people on the internet all the time now just
like coming up with different theories on how dooms they is.
And it kind of reminds me of like before Infinity
War Endgame came out, right, because all kinds of people
were speculating on certain like what certain scenes are going
to be, and they had like this whole idea of
like what the movie is. But then the movie. The
movies come out and they're not at all what fans
(15:40):
thought they were going to be. So and I'm seeing
the same thing with the doomsday stuff or Secret Wars.
They're like, oh, this scene when they do this scene
is Secret Wars, It's gonna be so cool, but it's
just people speculating and people like wish making right, they're
kind of just throwing it out there in the universe.
And whether or not we actually get these scenes is
a question.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yeah, because you're just trying to finish. You're trying to
finish art piece, and then sometimes you just can't do it.
And I understand, I get it. Everyone's excited, everyone's excited
to see these servants. But yeah, you know, you have
to temper expectation when once you see the movie, you're
Goulda probably disappointed. You probably might not be disappointed, but
you probably will be disappointed most likely.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know, again, I've said this before. I like the
idea of a comic book movie that's just like a
comic book story brought to life. Like I like the
idea of like, hey, we just did a thing. You
don't even any kind of backstory on this, Like, hey,
it's Avengers Doomsday. The story of this is Doom took
over the planet and the Avengers are all like slaves
are captured or whatever. I like that idea. I get
(16:37):
why most people wouldn't because it's confusing as to like
where that fits in this giant puzzle that is the
MCU now as an individual movie, this this would excite me.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But yeah, we'll see. I mean, like I said, I'm
not I'm not holding my breath on it.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah, I think like I said, I No Wing Home
spoiled everybody because Noing Home had that leak of Aie
Garfield Tom Holland and told me. And at that time,
we all saw it, you know, the people that pay
attention to this stuff, we all saw it. I saw
it and I was like, oh snap, and I saw
like a little Disney and they won the concept art.
It was just a leaked photo of them standing where
(17:15):
they were standing in the movie. And that was the
first time we ever seen something that actually come to life,
you know, so you know, it wasn't fake or generator
and AI wasn't even a thing back then. Yeah, that
was the first time we ever seen something like that.
So you know, that was pretty cool. That was pretty wild.
That was pretty wild too. So it just just depends.
(17:35):
It just depends. It's fun to speculate and the drop it.
You know, it's fun to do that, but it's also
you have to temperate expectations, and you.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Know, speculations have the fun.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Honestly, Sometimes sometimes it's not because I sometimes I enjoy
speculation and then sometimes.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm just like, oh man, this is because it's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Sometimes it can be useless because none of it happens
that way because everyone was trying to put together a
puzzle piece that might not even be there. You know,
Everyone's trying to put that that a round piece in
a square hole, and it's just like, stop trying to
do that. I think we have a little bit more,
We timper our expectations a little bit more. I know
some people that don't and they trying to put they're
(18:19):
really really trying to put a round hole. Try the
really trying to put a circle in a square hole.
You know, a peg you know, you know what I
mean around round peg and square hole. Like it's one person.
There's one person. Was it was telling me about Daredevil
and he was just like, so this was gonna happen
when the movies allegedly, Oh he said, apparently this was
(18:39):
supposed to happen.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know, Foggy and the girl what was her name, Jessica?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, yeah, there was there was well, I think it
beaked a long time ago that they were going to
get killed off, and then the studio had to change
that because I mean, for one, it got leaked and
then for two, a lot of people did not like
hearing that.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
So yeah, because allegedly the the blips to pick them
up and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, that had nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, And I think some of that just got changed.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I still haven't watched Dared Double.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I haven't watched it. I will, but I have watched it.
But I'm just like, that had nothing to do with nothing. Yeah,
because I saw I saw one of the reviews for it,
and they was just like.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
No, there was no blip. It was good.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Why would that be in there that that happened so
long ago? Yeah, to go back over that again would
be ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah. Well, I mean that's what some of the other
MCU and stuff has done. Was always kind of mentioned
the blip. So I think it's just like, oh, they're
probably gonna mention the blip or whatever. But and again
that I think that that might have been part of
the original plan because I know part of the original
concept was Foggy and and I can't remember her the
other Karen. I think it's Karen Foggy and Karen.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
They were supposed to get to Karen.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, they were supposed to get killed off. But when
that leaked, a lot of people didn't like that. There
was kind of some outrage, and so I think they
went in they quickly changed that story plot because they're like, oh,
people didn't like.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
This, So so let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Do you think we'll ever get to a point where
people will stop paying attention to leaks?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
No, people will always like, look at the leaks. That's
that's why. That's why they work, right, Like, things get
things get leaked all the time, and I think certain
companies leak things on purpose. In the case of the
MCU right now with the doomsday stuff, I think that
was an on purpose leak. And I agree with that
one person who mentioned like, oh, this is just to
(20:33):
get people excited or kind of kind of answer questions
without answering questions, you know what I mean, Like, oh, like,
what's this doomsday going to be about? Like, oh, no,
our concept art leak this is this is kind of
embarrassing for us, But truly it's like, no, we put
it out there ourselves, you know. I hearkens back to
Ryan Reynolds being behind the original Deadpool concept trail leak,
(20:55):
Remember when that happened and that kind of yeah, well
that's sparks Deadpool finally being made, because I think that
leaked in like twenty fourteen, and then two years later
we get a Deadpole movie because everyone saw that trailer
and they're like, holy crap, like, you guys didn't make this,
And so I think that had the butterfly effect of Oh,
(21:16):
leaks work to our advantage. So if every now and
then we have an oopsie and we accidentally like let
something out, it's a good way to gauge like where
the audience is at for certain ideas or themes or
or whatever we have going on. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
It's just the older I get, the more and more
I'm less excited about leaks, and I'm just like, how
many times have we as it had this happened?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, I mean it's always until you see a trailer
and a poster, you don't You can't believe anything, you
know what I mean? I said that for years about
Avatar two. For years they're like, oh, Avatar two is
coming next year, Like all right, Well, when I see
a trailer and a poster, I'll believe it. And then finally,
finally it did come out.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So I don't know, we will see what.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I'm trying my best hopefully we don't get any more
leaks and stuff like that. And if it was so,
I'm gonna try my best not to talk about it
as much. I'm just kind of kind of getting tired
of it. It's getting old. Well, what's the point. What's
the point is none of this is gonna happen like
things gonna happen. None of it, none of it, and
you really stressing yourself over how is it supposed to be?
And it's like, it's just wait till the trailer comes
(22:25):
out so you can truly enjoy it. Way till the
painting is is is truly done and you can wait
for it to dry and then you can enjoy it.
It's better that way. Can you imagine if end Game ended?
Can you imagine if everybody found out how game is
gonna be?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Nobody nobody would really really like it.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Like, oh man, I give Marvel kudos.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
They kept that bad bull on the under lock and
key because no one knew how that was gonna happen.
No one knew like and that was one of the
bust best things in cinema, that was one of the
funnest things enjoyed by everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's true. But see, Marvel's not in the same place
right now. They need to rejuvenate their their audience, and
so I think I think that's partly what this was.
It was like, hey, let's put some concept art out there,
kind of re engage people. See where the excitement level
is at. See if does jails well with their audience,
and it's it's just concept. It's not it's not what
(23:27):
we have going on right now. So if you know,
we'll pay attention to the conversation and if there's no
excitement about it, or if there's if there's pushback on it,
we'll make some changes.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But here's the deal, though, what if they what if
there is excitement for and the movie comes out and
you totally don't get any of it, not even a
little bit of a concept art, and it's like a
totally different film.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It ends up being like.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
That's that's a mistake on their part.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, so it's like you're taking a hell of a
risk doing something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We'll see hell of But I mean, also, like these
are concept pieces, but like not all that, Like seven
pieces of art don't make the whole movie, you know
what I mean, You can't write a three hour movie
all the like the seven pieces of art we've seen.
It's like, okay, cool, Like Doctor Doom has some Avengers
en slave. That could be that could be the setting
up part of the movie, you know what I mean,
That that's not the whole movie. That could just be
(24:20):
like it's set up. I think the most believable thing
in this is Chris Pratt star Lord hanging out with
like the Young Avengers for whatever reason, because that seems
like some goofy stuff Marvel would do, like oh, Star Wars,
star Wards on urse, what are we gonna have them do?
Have them babysit the sidekicks. I guess, like I don't know, ain't.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Too much, ain't too much more for him to do
the gardens and Gallaxies?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Then yeah, he's got nothing else to do, so it's like,
all right, cool, we'll having babysit the Young Avengers, the
White like him hanging out hanging out with White Vision
is the biggest like question mark for me, because like
White Vision, you've done nothing with this guy since One.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Division yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
My name is and I'm here to take you on
the wonderful journey through freedom justice in the good old
American way, like at Hamburger with.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I don't know if you remember this, but a few
years ago they were gonna c W was gonna make
a live action Powerpuff Girls teat serious did you do
you ever hear about this? Do you know about this?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I think I heard about it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, they were working on it, they were gonna they
were just about to release it, and then the plot
for the pilot, like the whole script for the pilot
episode got leaked and people were not having it because
they did this thing where it's like it's the Powerpuff Girls,
but it's like ten years later and like Bubbles is
an alcoholic, Blossom's got depression because she like she killed
(25:52):
one of the villains, Buttercup is like a lesbian or whatever,
and so people were just like, what did you do,
sweet and child? Did you ever watch the Powerpuff Girls?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Of course, okay, Powerpuff Girls. I grew up with it
and it was a fun show. They just beat up villains,
you know, every So you had a bunch of wild,
cartoony villains. You had like a devil lobster hermaphrodite person.
You had a redneck, fuzzy lumpkins. You had the Gang
Green Gang, which was like a bunch of green people.
I mean, you had all kinds of different kind of characters,
(26:24):
and they had good humor, good classic cartoon network humor
from like the early nineties and two thousands or late nineties,
early thousands, that kind of time period. The trailer leaked
the other day because this was a true leak, because
let me tell you, Warner Brothers acted fast to take
this trailer down.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I heard about the leak, and I want to go
find it, and like every website that talked about it
just nope, took it down, yanked it, yanked it down.
The only thing I could find was YouTubers reviewing it,
and all the YouTubers were like grown men, and I'm
just like, I don't want to watch you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I really don't.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I think I think I have to watch it too,
And I was like, I don't want to see a
bunch of guys in cel dudes talking about girls.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm good on it, Yeah, And I was like, I
don't even know if I want to talk about it
on the show but all but also it I don't know,
it's a topic. And I watched the trailer. I finally
found the trailer and I watched it, and it's bad.
It's CW bad. I don't know CW's CW. In general,
I feel like their production value has kind of gone down.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
That went completely down. It's completely down.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, And like this one's real bad because like I mean,
the green screen is very obvious. Just the effects horrible,
like and this was supposed to be the final product.
This wasn't like, hey, we just started doing this, you know,
it's like it's not It wasn't like hey, it's the
first trailer of a movie where it's like, okay, they're
still fixing something like No, this was gonna be the
final the final product, and I'm like it just it
(27:49):
just looked bad in general, but the overall premise not terrible.
It could have used some tweaks, right, Like, Okay, I
get the constantly like all right, we're gonna do a
thing where like they're adults and they're they're struggling with
being heroes when they were kids. Like that's not that's
not a bad story. But then it's just like the
the other tweaks and other things they did with the
characters themselves. I'm like, yeah, I can see why this
(28:09):
was a bad idea. Like you made Mojo Jojo two people.
They were like a father and a son, and Blossom
kills the dad and the son becomes a mayor and
he decides he wants to get back at the Power
Buff Girls or whatever. Like that's kind of like the
story of what the show would have been. I think
it would have been more fun if he would have
just had like the classic villains come back. Okay, So
(28:31):
it kind of reminded me of the Boys, And this
is my problem with The Boys.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
The Boys.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It was a good show when it first came out
because at a time when we had all these like
superhero media and we still have a lot of superhero media,
but at a time when you're having all the superhero
media around. But then like the Boys come through and
it's like a breath of fresh air because it's like, yeah,
they're superheroes, but they're kind of terrible, right, They're like, oh, fresh,
new concept, this is exciting and blah blah blah. And
(28:58):
then a couple of year, like by season three, it
just kind of becomes like the Shock and All show,
where it's like, all right, well, whose head's gonna explode
in this episode? Like who's getting a limb cut off?
Like the grotesque gore just kind of gets old. And
season four was like heavily like a political parody, which
is like, I'm already hearing about politics on a daily
(29:19):
basis because it's an election year. The last thing I
want to do is watch this show about more political
parody of what's going on in real life. But real
life feels like a parody, So this doesn't help me forget.
This isn't the escapist media I want. You know, you're right,
my point being, I think The Boys sparked, you know, like, hey,
(29:41):
people like, oh, when the superheroes are bad, because we
had some other shows come out that are kind of
like The Boys. Ask or I think there's a there's
a Japanese comic book that is now an anime that's
basically The Power Rangers, but the Boys. It's like, oh,
what if the Power Rangers were around but they were
actually secretly the bad guys. Yeah, I'm like, okay, you know,
it's kind of a fun thing, but also it's the
(30:02):
Boys because of the boys. Yeah, so the Powerpuff Girls.
This kind of felt like they were trying to do
that a little bit where it's like, oh, it's a
Powerpuff Girls, but they're they're real life people and they
have they also have issues like why do I want
to why do I want to watch superhero struggle with alcoholism?
Like why can't I just watch superheroes?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, especially do I want to see three little girls
that everybody in turn these you know, turning to have
life problems.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, and now they're adults and it's like now they're
struggling with eating disorders and alcoholism, and right, like, I
can see why this really just felled. And this was
a good example. We were just talking about leaks. We
were talking about leaks with the MCU. This was a
good example of a leak that really just halted the
process of like, oh this, this is going to be
(30:52):
bad if we release this. Let's not do this.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
The flip side of this is I don't think c
W planned to leak that first pilot script. I think
that just got leaks, like they got hacked and people
people find out about it. Yeah, but this really, this
really saved them from a total embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's interesting though, because the trailer got back the original narrator,
Tom Kenney to narrate the show, so that was a
nice little like call back to the original show. They
make a comment about like, oh they had merch and
TV shows and it was kind of like meta or whatever.
The professor was Turk from the Scrubs, which is like,
(31:35):
maybe it's a good thing that didn't come out, because.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
It sounds like it's like this thing was a miss.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's like this is the show was complete miss.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
No matter how much he tweaked it, it was gonna
be a complete miss. It sounds awful. It's not even
like anti woke. It's just not even little girls would
have liked this.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well it's not. Yeah, it wasn't meant for a little girls.
It was meant for the kids who were up with it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I see.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
We gotta stop doing that.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You gotta stop doing it. You gotta stop doing it.
And that's biggest problem with a lot of these this stuff.
Now you're trying to cater so much to nostalgia as
you end up making garbage like this.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, like no, we're growing to ass people now.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, it's like let's let's get away from nostalgia. Let's
make a good story. Make a good story, make a
good product, and we'll enjoy it. Stop trying to hit
on Hey remember this from childhood.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I look at two YouTube channels and they have like
a time capsule, but it's basically a time capsule, and
they have a whole bunch of stuff from nineteen nineties
and the eighties. What was it like going to the mall?
Or was it like movie theaters? What was it like
going to McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's style, that's my nostalgic. I'm good for you. Yeah,
I'm good. I watched those all the time.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It was cool to see that somebody actually archived him
and put them on YouTube. I wish I would have
I wish I would have been old enough to even
thought about doing something like that. Can you imagine me
and you being the ages that we are now, Yeah,
putting things in a time capsule, you had a video
camera on a video camera, and you and me going
to burg King in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know how cool that would have been.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, it would have been considering burger kings don't even
look like burger kings from nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Exactly, you know how cool that is? Man Like, so
I think that's so so cool. I watch so much
stuff like that all the time. But this's as far
as I go. I'm not sitting up here wishing and
hoping to return my childhood. It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You like nostalgia from life, That's what's happening, right, Like
you like nostalgia from life in general, like, oh, that's
what mom used to look like, That's what Burger King
used to look like, That's what this used to be.
And it's cool that you get to watch a channel
that still has that footage. Right, Nostalgia in movies, it's
kind of pointless because if you and I were like, hey,
(33:43):
I really missed the Powerpuff Girls. The Powafuff Girls is out.
We can buy the DVDs, like, I'm sure it's streaming somewhere, Like,
we could just go watch the original series. We don't
need creators to come in and make a new series
or update the series. Like, if we're feeling nostalgic for
Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab or Johnny Bravo or whatever other
show we had in childhood, we can go find that somewhere.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
We can go pull it up like that. We don't
need somebody to be to come in and be like, hey,
remember the show you like from childhood? What if we
made them adults and we gave them real life problems.
I'm an adult and I have real life problems. I
don't I don't want to watch that.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I don't want to watch I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I don't want to watch the three little girls that
I grew up with sugar and spice and everything nice.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We want to see them suffering eating disorder.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
And oh I don't. I don't want to see it.
I don't want to see blossom and I know no
in Bubbles.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I get your take on nostalgia. There was a small
pocket of time where it did work and now it's
not working as much. And the Powerfuff Girls was a
big example of like, oh, this was this was doomed,
this was a bad idea, and it's it's a good
thing this didn't get released.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
But we've seen it now with Ghostbusters. Ghost Busters came, yeah,
the last one came out last year, and then was
totally doll crap that Frozen Empire came out, last year.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But you know what's funny is After Life did phenomenal
because After Life continued the story and it wasn't trying
to hit on nostalgia as much, right, it was trying
to build off like the legacy ye as an Empire
went back to nostalgia. It went back to like, hey,
we got dan Aykroyd back, we got Bill Murray back,
we got the guy who plays Winston what's his name,
(35:27):
Ernie Hudson, Ernie Hudson. We got Ernie Hundson in here,
Like we're bringing back all these classic characters and.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, back in the yard, remember the library and Middle
of the Lion and Slim.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, and then it just it was too much. It's like, guys,
you had you had a great concept with just like
you know, we're somewhere in the Midwest and there's ghosts
out here, and there's I mean, yeah, there's still connected
to the original Ghostbusters, but there's still new characters.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's like, yeah, it's Egon's brand. Kids that discover this stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
If they wanted to go to a new city. How
come you didn't go to Los Angeles as well?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Los Angeles, yeah, or any or anywhere anywhere would have
been better than Hey, we brought it back to New York.
And also there's this ghost squirrel and there's this guy
who's a descendant of this like fire bender.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh god.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
So it's just man's nostalgia is really really starting to
it's starting to be kind of bad.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Man. It's started starting to kickout, but it's starting to
kick off.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But it worked for a little bit. There was a
piece of time where it's like it really worked great. Yeah,
and now it's just not it's not hidden.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
No, it's not not at all.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's the entertainment industry. Man, things work until they don't,
you know.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
And you know Hollywood, they're going to keep bleeding and
dry until oh yeah, you know, until it's done. They're
going to keep milking it until you say you don't
want it no more.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
No especially Yeah, that's that's just how Hollywood is. And
then you know, you you have these original concepts that
try to come out and unfortunately like they're not doing
so well because they're they're from smaller, smaller companies or
they don't have the big name actor. At the same time,
pople are getting tired of seeing big name actors and
things where it's like, oh, they got the rock in
(37:04):
this movie, right, But then it's like, well, you have
all these other really original ideas out there if you
want to go watch this, No, I'm gonna go watch
the next movie with the Rock. So you just said
you're tired of the Rock? Yeah, but this movie looks good?
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Sometimes people just want to complain, Just complain it.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It sounds like, yeah, that's all I had for you today.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's it, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
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Dang it? But the hell? Why'd you stay with me?
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Speaker 4 (01:17):
I feel so damn good, I got a phoneer.
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I'm released a new episode today. Listen to it, my
boner ower. All right, everybody, welcome to episode twenty six.
James of the On the Go Show.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't know if you realize that, but we are.
I keep track a quarter of the way to two hundred.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yep, I can track sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh good, good, I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad you
do before we get started, James, how have you been?
What have you been up to since we last recorded?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
It's just you asked this question all the time, give
me saying as every night, so we got a.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Man, It's like, hey, how you doing? Okay, I'll give
you a better, better question. Have you have you watched
anything bad, good, or interesting lately that you would like
to talk about at the top?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, not yet, but I want to. I want to
start watching White Lotus.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
White Lotus is probably the show and a Yellow Jacket
shows I want to start on.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I've heard quite a bit of about Yellow Jacket. I
think friend of the show Richard watches it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, he does. He's one of the that preferred me
to it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, because it's like they were I think they were
like stranded on an island or something like a plane crash,
and I don't know. It's like supernatural but not quite.
There's like mystery and stuff to it from what I understand. Yeah, yeah,
i've heard. I've heard good things about it. That's that's cool.
That's cool. I keep saying stuff about Severance and like
it's it's an Apple show and we don't have Apple,
(02:46):
so I'm probably not gonna watch it. But I I
don't know. I keep seeing like memes about it. It's
it's like a workplace show. But the whole concept is
when you go to work your one personality, and then
when you leave work, you're another personality, like your work
life and your home life or completely separate it entirely.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's like you go through an elevator and you you've
become work mode, and then you go up the elevator
and you become you know, real life mode or whatever.
And I guess there's like some mystery going on. I
don't know, like the the work personalities are thinking something
scummy is happening. I don't know. I've just seen memes
about it. I just know there's an elevator and they're
(03:25):
called Innies and Audis and that's it.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I think I think I've seen like something before. I
think i've seen something for I'm check that out.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah it sounds cool, but it's I think it's on Apple.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah it's Apple. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, we don't have Apple, so we might have to
wait for that one. Craving the Hunters coming out on
streaming soon, so I finally get to watch that. No,
it's never got the chance to see it. I did
watch like the final battle between him and Rhino, and
it's it's it's kind of rough, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, the c G I on it is not not
that great, which is you know, upsetting how much I
went to bat for that show.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah you did. I think you did try to go
to bath for Craven. Unfortunately I did.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Man, Hey, I gotta support what I support. But I
guess sometimes you gotta you gotta pull.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
The Parachute fight fight was terrible everything. I hate that movie.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Damn Well.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't know if you saw the other day, but
I had. I had posted an audio clip I got
some on airtime on the radio.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, the the show I produce up here in
San Antonio. They it's another news show and every day
they pose a question for the audience. Instead of having
people call in, they have this thing called a talkback,
which is on the app for the radio station, and
so like you can pull up the app, you hit
the button and you know, you got thirty seconds to
(04:46):
record like a little essentially voicemail. And every day they
pose a question to like, Hey, what do you think
about this? Like let us know the talkbacks and then
like they'll play like three or four of them once
an hour or whatever. Thursday's question was what old person
habits do you have? And you know, like as whatever
age you are, like what old person habits are you?
(05:07):
Are you noticing that you're falling into or whatever? And
so they they had asked me during the break, like, oh,
what old person habits do you have? And I was like, well,
I take naptap for the show and we watch you know,
movies with subtitles.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Right, that is OK, that's pretty old.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, And that was during the break, and so I
was like, Okay, they're gonna they're gonna come back, and
like they might mention like they talk to me or whatever,
but like no, they threw it to me because he
was like, oh, hey, our producer, our producer. What he said?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He said, do what producer? Extraordinary?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah right, but no he was like, oh, I asked
my producer, Jacob, what what his old person habits are?
And what did you say, Jacob? And then I had
to like stumblely like pull the microphone to me because
I wasn't like I wasn't expecting to go on air,
and I had to like put up the microphone on
the on the board. I had to turn myself on.
So there were like two seconds of awkward silence before
(05:59):
I can finally be like, oh I said this, and
blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, I got a good
solid minute of air time. It was cool, it was exciting.
It was truly live, so man, yeah, man, it's it's
exciting and exhilarating. And like afterwards, I was like I
didn't swear, did I? Because it like, you know, we
swear in the pod. If we swear on the podcast,
(06:21):
I just edited out or whatever. But live it goes
out and I have to push a button and then
the FCC gets involved. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yep, Because I definitely gonna call you.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But it was cool. It was an exciting moment. So
I clipped it and I put it online just to
be like, hey, look look I'm I'm succeeding in life.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'll put you on there again, I hope.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So that'd be cool, that'd be that'd be really cool
to get another like minute or so of time, just
like a little anecdotes. I don't know if I could
do like a fully live show. I stumbled my way
through this podcast. I don't know if you noticed this,
but he probably could.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't know, who knows. You probably could pull it off.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, it just it just takes a certain amount of training.
True practice, practice makes perfect. You would think after one
hundred and twenty five episodes, i'd be a be better
at talking.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
But yeah, I mean we do kind of go through
some of these episodes, so I don't know. Hopefully we're
getting the best quality out of it. We look through
so many episodes a week. Yeah, we're getting.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
There every day, man, every day. It's a struggle.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Anyway, you've got mail. I got an email from Zach
Zach emoled us. Once again. This was interesting. He wants
to know where thoughts on movie theaters and off the
back of like the Brutalist, right, because Brutalist comes out,
it's like, what three and a half four hours long?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You've seen it, Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So Brutalist comes out and they announced that, hey, we're
gonna have an intermission in this movie because it's so
damn long. You guys need a break. And you said
you enjoyed the intermission. You actually really liked it.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
This is I thought I was gonna break up the
film pretty but it was pretty good. It stopped at
a good point and back up a good point, had
a little ticker, and had ticker in the middle of
the film, had a little picture of the of the
family in the middle of the film, and he had
a little ticker. Had two minutes, so you got two
minutes to do what you need to do, bring yourself back.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I liked it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah. I guess it takes away the anxiety of like
having to leave during the movie because you might miss something.
So it's like, hey, if I make it halfway through
the film, I can go pee, I can go get
some popcorn or whatever and come back and still not
miss anything.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Right, that's what I liked it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, So Zach was having a conversation with his grandfather,
and I think his grandfather is in the camp of, hey,
let's do longer movies with intermissions. Zach thinks we should
do shorter movies, and he wanted to know our opinion. So,
I mean, I've said it before, I'm a fan of
the shorter films, Like I like a good hour and
a half movie, Let's get in, let's get out.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean I don't I don't really mind unless
it's you know, this is, unless it's a good movie
and the story needs to be told correctly. You know,
two hours should be pretty good enough.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Right, because I mean, how many movies truly need to
be four hours long. I kind of blame this on
the MCU, because, like I feel like Avengers Infinity War
An Endgame kind of set the precedence of, hey, we
can make a three hour long film like these blockbuster
movies and people will sit through it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Right. But it had to be.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, those had to be because they had so much
to set up. But yeah, I mean in the case
of what Avatar two, which was three hours long, I mean,
the first Avatar was almost three hours as well, but still,
Avatars two was about three hours long. It's like an
hour and a half of that movie was just like water,
literally national geographic.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Like that. That's true.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The question is would a what an intermission have saved
that movie or not. I don't think so, considering it
was kind of a boring film visually.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Still, yeah, yeah it was. I mean it didn't get good.
It didn't get good to the action, You're.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right, and the action came into like last thirty minutes,
and I don't know, the plot was kind of okay,
and apparently the next one's supposed to be much better.
But we'll we'll see. We'll see on that one.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, we'll see on that one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And then what other long films have come out since
since Avatar? There's there's been a few of them. Oh, Oppenheimer,
that's a good example, right, Oppenheimer was about three hours long.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, but Appenhauer kind of it kind of kept my
attention the entire time, did it?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah? It kept my attention?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, so see, And okay, here here's an argument. I
didn't go see Oppenheimer because it was three hours long,
just because the link. So I don't know if yeah,
I don't know if an intermission would have compelled me
to go see it, because it's still it's still three
hours long. I think I'm in the camp of shorter
movies here.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I think that's what I mean. Some moves can be short,
some moves can be long.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
It just depends on what the movie is and what
the story is, you know, like The Odyssey. I'm pretty
sure christophanola film is gonna probably be three hours long.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It has Yeah, it has to be. You can't make
that an hour.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean the Odyssey itself is a long story,
so you yeah, that need to be long. And I
could see them doing another intermission thing for that film.
If Christopher Nolan was smart, he'd probably want to.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Go that way. Yeah, all right, Well, that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's our thoughts. I'm for shorter movies. James doesn't really
care as long.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
As as long as the movie is good.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
As long as the movie is good, James doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I care.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Give me an hour and a half, that's all I need.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I don't need.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I don't need like a two hour movie of freaking
I don't know, cartoon. Yeah, I don't need to start
a moving that. But if it's an epic. If it's
an epic movie, then yeah, it has to.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Be on the go with Jacob and James.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The next thing I wanted to talk about today, James
was it was something I wanted to talk about last week,
but we kind of ran out of time. And since
the Avengers Doomsday like concept art supposedly quote unquote linked,
since it's still out there on the internet, I'm assuming
Marvel just put this out themselves. A lot of people
are already speculating like, oh, they probably did this to
excuse me, they probably did this to generate interest in
(12:16):
the movie because everyone's a little confused as to what
this movie is gonna be. So it's like, hey, if
we if we put some concept stuff out there, maybe
we'll get people will get excited about it. Have you
had a chance to look.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
At any of this, Yeah, I mean I'll look that
some of it. I mean mostly the doom stuff. You know,
I don't we don't have to go through sing by
singing of it because we don't have like a visual
of it. But you know, my thing on leak concepts
are sometimes they turn out good and sometimes they don't.
You know, sometimes drums up interest and sometimes it does.
(12:47):
I'm pretty sure, you know, when that Spider Man, know,
wing Home picture came out of TELB. Maguire and Andrew
Garfield and Tom Holland, I'm pretty sure that this that
that that was at the time, Pete Leakless. Yeah, because
then when Dona Strais came out and they had concept art,
none of it happened like I was supposed to happen
(13:08):
in the movie. So it kind of threw off, threw
off the vibe of everything that was that you thought
you was gonna see.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, Well, I was gonna make the same point that
concept art isn't necessarily what makes the film. You know,
if you go and you go back and you find
a DVD and you look at the DVD extras, they
normally have like concept art in the extras, and really
it's just to be like, hey, this was our original
thoughts compared to the final film. And sometimes characters look different.
(13:35):
Sometimes there's whole scenes that are drawn out that don't
make the movie. Whether or not they filmed it as
a you know, is a different question. So I take
this concept with the Grand assault, you have to. Yeah,
I think anybody really smart should take it with the
Grand Assault. I will say it does. The pictures themselves
do interest me, Like, I don't know, like you get
(13:57):
you get the Hulk village, you have like Doctor Doom
sitting on a throne with like Doctor Strange, and yeah
it look it looks like Pedro Pascal's Mister Fantastic is
in chained by black widows Scarlo Johansson. So some of
these things are interesting. And you know, my thought would
be again multiverse saga. So if we're doing the multiverse stuff,
(14:19):
Avengers Doomsday could be a like a version of an
Earth that instead of having Thanos, they had Doom get
the Infinity Stones. Like maybe this is what this is, right,
It's it's just a different side of things. I like
the concept, but I don't think that's what this movie
is gonna be about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like I said that, that's
what they did with Doctor Strange, and the hype for
Doctor Strange was out through the roof because everyone was
drawing all these conclusions and you know, trying to finish
It's almost like finishing art on a painting that's not
finish it because you're trying to draw your own conclusions together.
What you see and it's not really going to happen
(14:57):
that way. And I think doctor Strange taught everybody at
less because God's Strange. Everyone thought that, oh my god,
all these people are going to show up, and none
of it happened. And I think they also tippered expectations
for what you saw. So I mean, while sometimes concept
artists cool, it's best the temperate expectations of what you
might see because you don't know how to look in
(15:18):
the end.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Right, because these are just ideas. And you know, I
see people on the internet all the time now just
like coming up with different theories on how dooms they is.
And it kind of reminds me of like before Infinity
War Endgame came out, right, because all kinds of people
were speculating on certain like what certain scenes are going
to be, and they had like this whole idea of
like what the movie is. But then the movie. The
movies come out and they're not at all what fans
(15:40):
thought they were going to be. So and I'm seeing
the same thing with the doomsday stuff or Secret Wars.
They're like, oh, this scene when they do this scene
is Secret Wars, It's gonna be so cool, but it's
just people speculating and people like wish making right, they're
kind of just throwing it out there in the universe.
And whether or not we actually get these scenes is
a question.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yeah, because you're just trying to finish. You're trying to
finish art piece, and then sometimes you just can't do it.
And I understand, I get it. Everyone's excited, everyone's excited
to see these servants. But yeah, you know, you have
to temper expectation when once you see the movie, you're
Goulda probably disappointed. You probably might not be disappointed, but
you probably will be disappointed most likely.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know, again, I've said this before. I like the
idea of a comic book movie that's just like a
comic book story brought to life. Like I like the
idea of like, hey, we just did a thing. You
don't even any kind of backstory on this, Like, hey,
it's Avengers Doomsday. The story of this is Doom took
over the planet and the Avengers are all like slaves
are captured or whatever. I like that idea. I get
(16:37):
why most people wouldn't because it's confusing as to like
where that fits in this giant puzzle that is the
MCU now as an individual movie, this this would excite me.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But yeah, we'll see. I mean, like I said, I'm
not I'm not holding my breath on it.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah, I think like I said, I No Wing Home
spoiled everybody because Noing Home had that leak of Aie
Garfield Tom Holland and told me. And at that time,
we all saw it, you know, the people that pay
attention to this stuff, we all saw it. I saw
it and I was like, oh snap, and I saw
like a little Disney and they won the concept art.
It was just a leaked photo of them standing where
(17:15):
they were standing in the movie. And that was the
first time we ever seen something that actually come to life,
you know, so you know, it wasn't fake or generator
and AI wasn't even a thing back then. Yeah, that
was the first time we ever seen something like that.
So you know, that was pretty cool. That was pretty wild.
That was pretty wild too. So it just just depends.
(17:35):
It just depends. It's fun to speculate and the drop it.
You know, it's fun to do that, but it's also
you have to temperate expectations, and you.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Know, speculations have the fun.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Honestly, Sometimes sometimes it's not because I sometimes I enjoy
speculation and then sometimes.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm just like, oh man, this is because it's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Sometimes it can be useless because none of it happens
that way because everyone was trying to put together a
puzzle piece that might not even be there. You know,
Everyone's trying to put that that a round piece in
a square hole, and it's just like, stop trying to
do that. I think we have a little bit more,
We timper our expectations a little bit more. I know
some people that don't and they trying to put they're
(18:19):
really really trying to put a round hole. Try the
really trying to put a circle in a square hole.
You know, a peg you know, you know what I
mean around round peg and square hole. Like it's one person.
There's one person. Was it was telling me about Daredevil
and he was just like, so this was gonna happen
when the movies allegedly, Oh he said, apparently this was
(18:39):
supposed to happen.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know, Foggy and the girl what was her name, Jessica?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, yeah, there was there was well, I think it
beaked a long time ago that they were going to
get killed off, and then the studio had to change
that because I mean, for one, it got leaked and
then for two, a lot of people did not like
hearing that.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
So yeah, because allegedly the the blips to pick them
up and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, that had nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, And I think some of that just got changed.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I still haven't watched Dared Double.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I haven't watched it. I will, but I have watched it.
But I'm just like, that had nothing to do with nothing. Yeah,
because I saw I saw one of the reviews for it,
and they was just like.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
No, there was no blip. It was good.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Why would that be in there that that happened so
long ago? Yeah, to go back over that again would
be ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah. Well, I mean that's what some of the other
MCU and stuff has done. Was always kind of mentioned
the blip. So I think it's just like, oh, they're
probably gonna mention the blip or whatever. But and again
that I think that that might have been part of
the original plan because I know part of the original
concept was Foggy and and I can't remember her the
other Karen. I think it's Karen Foggy and Karen.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
They were supposed to get to Karen.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, they were supposed to get killed off. But when
that leaked, a lot of people didn't like that. There
was kind of some outrage, and so I think they
went in they quickly changed that story plot because they're like, oh,
people didn't like.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
This, So so let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Do you think we'll ever get to a point where
people will stop paying attention to leaks?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
No, people will always like, look at the leaks. That's
that's why. That's why they work, right, Like, things get
things get leaked all the time, and I think certain
companies leak things on purpose. In the case of the
MCU right now with the doomsday stuff, I think that
was an on purpose leak. And I agree with that
one person who mentioned like, oh, this is just to
(20:33):
get people excited or kind of kind of answer questions
without answering questions, you know what I mean, Like, oh, like,
what's this doomsday going to be about? Like, oh, no,
our concept art leak this is this is kind of
embarrassing for us, But truly it's like, no, we put
it out there ourselves, you know. I hearkens back to
Ryan Reynolds being behind the original Deadpool concept trail leak,
(20:55):
Remember when that happened and that kind of yeah, well
that's sparks Deadpool finally being made, because I think that
leaked in like twenty fourteen, and then two years later
we get a Deadpole movie because everyone saw that trailer
and they're like, holy crap, like, you guys didn't make this,
And so I think that had the butterfly effect of Oh,
(21:16):
leaks work to our advantage. So if every now and
then we have an oopsie and we accidentally like let
something out, it's a good way to gauge like where
the audience is at for certain ideas or themes or
or whatever we have going on. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
It's just the older I get, the more and more
I'm less excited about leaks, and I'm just like, how
many times have we as it had this happened?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, I mean it's always until you see a trailer
and a poster, you don't You can't believe anything, you
know what I mean? I said that for years about
Avatar two. For years they're like, oh, Avatar two is
coming next year, Like all right, Well, when I see
a trailer and a poster, I'll believe it. And then finally,
finally it did come out.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So I don't know, we will see what.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I'm trying my best hopefully we don't get any more
leaks and stuff like that. And if it was so,
I'm gonna try my best not to talk about it
as much. I'm just kind of kind of getting tired
of it. It's getting old. Well, what's the point. What's
the point is none of this is gonna happen like
things gonna happen. None of it, none of it, and
you really stressing yourself over how is it supposed to be?
And it's like, it's just wait till the trailer comes
(22:25):
out so you can truly enjoy it. Way till the
painting is is is truly done and you can wait
for it to dry and then you can enjoy it.
It's better that way. Can you imagine if end Game ended?
Can you imagine if everybody found out how game is
gonna be?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Nobody nobody would really really like it.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Like, oh man, I give Marvel kudos.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
They kept that bad bull on the under lock and
key because no one knew how that was gonna happen.
No one knew like and that was one of the
bust best things in cinema, that was one of the
funnest things enjoyed by everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's true. But see, Marvel's not in the same place
right now. They need to rejuvenate their their audience, and
so I think I think that's partly what this was.
It was like, hey, let's put some concept art out there,
kind of re engage people. See where the excitement level
is at. See if does jails well with their audience,
and it's it's just concept. It's not it's not what
(23:27):
we have going on right now. So if you know,
we'll pay attention to the conversation and if there's no
excitement about it, or if there's if there's pushback on it,
we'll make some changes.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But here's the deal, though, what if they what if
there is excitement for and the movie comes out and
you totally don't get any of it, not even a
little bit of a concept art, and it's like a
totally different film.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It ends up being like.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
That's that's a mistake on their part.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, so it's like you're taking a hell of a
risk doing something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We'll see hell of But I mean, also, like these
are concept pieces, but like not all that, Like seven
pieces of art don't make the whole movie, you know
what I mean, You can't write a three hour movie
all the like the seven pieces of art we've seen.
It's like, okay, cool, Like Doctor Doom has some Avengers
en slave. That could be that could be the setting
up part of the movie, you know what I mean,
That that's not the whole movie. That could just be
(24:20):
like it's set up. I think the most believable thing
in this is Chris Pratt star Lord hanging out with
like the Young Avengers for whatever reason, because that seems
like some goofy stuff Marvel would do, like oh, Star Wars,
star Wards on urse, what are we gonna have them do?
Have them babysit the sidekicks. I guess, like I don't know, ain't.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Too much, ain't too much more for him to do
the gardens and Gallaxies?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Then yeah, he's got nothing else to do, so it's like,
all right, cool, we'll having babysit the Young Avengers, the
White like him hanging out hanging out with White Vision
is the biggest like question mark for me, because like
White Vision, you've done nothing with this guy since One.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Division yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
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Speaker 3 (25:19):
So.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I don't know if you remember this, but a few
years ago they were gonna c W was gonna make
a live action Powerpuff Girls teat serious did you do
you ever hear about this? Do you know about this?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I think I heard about it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, they were working on it, they were gonna they
were just about to release it, and then the plot
for the pilot, like the whole script for the pilot
episode got leaked and people were not having it because
they did this thing where it's like it's the Powerpuff Girls,
but it's like ten years later and like Bubbles is
an alcoholic, Blossom's got depression because she like she killed
(25:52):
one of the villains, Buttercup is like a lesbian or whatever,
and so people were just like, what did you do,
sweet and child? Did you ever watch the Powerpuff Girls?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Of course, okay, Powerpuff Girls. I grew up with it
and it was a fun show. They just beat up villains,
you know, every So you had a bunch of wild,
cartoony villains. You had like a devil lobster hermaphrodite person.
You had a redneck, fuzzy lumpkins. You had the Gang
Green Gang, which was like a bunch of green people.
I mean, you had all kinds of different kind of characters,
(26:24):
and they had good humor, good classic cartoon network humor
from like the early nineties and two thousands or late nineties,
early thousands, that kind of time period. The trailer leaked
the other day because this was a true leak, because
let me tell you, Warner Brothers acted fast to take
this trailer down.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I heard about the leak, and I want to go
find it, and like every website that talked about it
just nope, took it down, yanked it, yanked it down.
The only thing I could find was YouTubers reviewing it,
and all the YouTubers were like grown men, and I'm
just like, I don't want to watch you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I really don't.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I think I think I have to watch it too,
And I was like, I don't want to see a
bunch of guys in cel dudes talking about girls.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm good on it, Yeah, And I was like, I
don't even know if I want to talk about it
on the show but all but also it I don't know,
it's a topic. And I watched the trailer. I finally
found the trailer and I watched it, and it's bad.
It's CW bad. I don't know CW's CW. In general,
I feel like their production value has kind of gone down.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
That went completely down. It's completely down.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, And like this one's real bad because like I mean,
the green screen is very obvious. Just the effects horrible,
like and this was supposed to be the final product.
This wasn't like, hey, we just started doing this, you know,
it's like it's not It wasn't like hey, it's the
first trailer of a movie where it's like, okay, they're
still fixing something like No, this was gonna be the
final the final product, and I'm like it just it
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just looked bad in general, but the overall premise not terrible.
It could have used some tweaks, right, Like, Okay, I
get the constantly like all right, we're gonna do a
thing where like they're adults and they're they're struggling with
being heroes when they were kids. Like that's not that's
not a bad story. But then it's just like the
the other tweaks and other things they did with the
characters themselves. I'm like, yeah, I can see why this
(28:09):
was a bad idea. Like you made Mojo Jojo two people.
They were like a father and a son, and Blossom
kills the dad and the son becomes a mayor and
he decides he wants to get back at the Power
Buff Girls or whatever. Like that's kind of like the
story of what the show would have been. I think
it would have been more fun if he would have
just had like the classic villains come back. Okay, So
(28:31):
it kind of reminded me of the Boys, And this
is my problem with The Boys.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
The Boys.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It was a good show when it first came out
because at a time when we had all these like
superhero media and we still have a lot of superhero media,
but at a time when you're having all the superhero
media around. But then like the Boys come through and
it's like a breath of fresh air because it's like, yeah,
they're superheroes, but they're kind of terrible, right, They're like, oh, fresh,
new concept, this is exciting and blah blah blah. And
(28:58):
then a couple of year, like by season three, it
just kind of becomes like the Shock and All show,
where it's like, all right, well, whose head's gonna explode
in this episode? Like who's getting a limb cut off?
Like the grotesque gore just kind of gets old. And
season four was like heavily like a political parody, which
is like, I'm already hearing about politics on a daily
(29:19):
basis because it's an election year. The last thing I
want to do is watch this show about more political
parody of what's going on in real life. But real
life feels like a parody, So this doesn't help me forget.
This isn't the escapist media I want. You know, you're right,
my point being, I think The Boys sparked, you know, like, hey,
(29:41):
people like, oh, when the superheroes are bad, because we
had some other shows come out that are kind of
like The Boys. Ask or I think there's a there's
a Japanese comic book that is now an anime that's
basically The Power Rangers, but the Boys. It's like, oh,
what if the Power Rangers were around but they were
actually secretly the bad guys. Yeah, I'm like, okay, you know,
it's kind of a fun thing, but also it's the
(30:02):
Boys because of the boys. Yeah, so the Powerpuff Girls.
This kind of felt like they were trying to do
that a little bit where it's like, oh, it's a
Powerpuff Girls, but they're they're real life people and they
have they also have issues like why do I want
to why do I want to watch superhero struggle with alcoholism?
Like why can't I just watch superheroes?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, especially do I want to see three little girls
that everybody in turn these you know, turning to have
life problems.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, and now they're adults and it's like now they're
struggling with eating disorders and alcoholism, and right, like, I
can see why this really just felled. And this was
a good example. We were just talking about leaks. We
were talking about leaks with the MCU. This was a
good example of a leak that really just halted the
process of like, oh this, this is going to be
(30:52):
bad if we release this. Let's not do this.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
The flip side of this is I don't think c
W planned to leak that first pilot script. I think
that just got leaks, like they got hacked and people
people find out about it. Yeah, but this really, this
really saved them from a total embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's interesting though, because the trailer got back the original narrator,
Tom Kenney to narrate the show, so that was a
nice little like call back to the original show. They
make a comment about like, oh they had merch and
TV shows and it was kind of like meta or whatever.
The professor was Turk from the Scrubs, which is like,
(31:35):
maybe it's a good thing that didn't come out, because.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
It sounds like it's like this thing was a miss.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's like this is the show was complete miss.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
No matter how much he tweaked it, it was gonna
be a complete miss. It sounds awful. It's not even
like anti woke. It's just not even little girls would
have liked this.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well it's not. Yeah, it wasn't meant for a little girls.
It was meant for the kids who were up with it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I see.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
We gotta stop doing that.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
You gotta stop doing it. You gotta stop doing it.
And that's biggest problem with a lot of these this stuff.
Now you're trying to cater so much to nostalgia as
you end up making garbage like this.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, like no, we're growing to ass people now.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, it's like let's let's get away from nostalgia. Let's
make a good story. Make a good story, make a
good product, and we'll enjoy it. Stop trying to hit
on Hey remember this from childhood.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I look at two YouTube channels and they have like
a time capsule, but it's basically a time capsule, and
they have a whole bunch of stuff from nineteen nineties
and the eighties. What was it like going to the mall?
Or was it like movie theaters? What was it like
going to McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's style, that's my nostalgic. I'm good for you. Yeah,
I'm good. I watched those all the time.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It was cool to see that somebody actually archived him
and put them on YouTube. I wish I would have
I wish I would have been old enough to even
thought about doing something like that. Can you imagine me
and you being the ages that we are now, Yeah,
putting things in a time capsule, you had a video
camera on a video camera, and you and me going
to burg King in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know how cool that would have been.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, it would have been considering burger kings don't even
look like burger kings from nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Exactly, you know how cool that is? Man Like, so
I think that's so so cool. I watch so much
stuff like that all the time. But this's as far
as I go. I'm not sitting up here wishing and
hoping to return my childhood. It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You like nostalgia from life, That's what's happening, right, Like
you like nostalgia from life in general, like, oh, that's
what mom used to look like, That's what Burger King
used to look like, That's what this used to be.
And it's cool that you get to watch a channel
that still has that footage. Right, Nostalgia in movies, it's
kind of pointless because if you and I were like, hey,
(33:43):
I really missed the Powerpuff Girls. The Powafuff Girls is out.
We can buy the DVDs, like, I'm sure it's streaming somewhere, Like,
we could just go watch the original series. We don't
need creators to come in and make a new series
or update the series. Like, if we're feeling nostalgic for
Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab or Johnny Bravo or whatever other
show we had in childhood, we can go find that somewhere.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
We can go pull it up like that. We don't
need somebody to be to come in and be like, hey,
remember the show you like from childhood? What if we
made them adults and we gave them real life problems.
I'm an adult and I have real life problems. I
don't I don't want to watch that.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I don't want to watch I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I don't want to watch the three little girls that
I grew up with sugar and spice and everything nice.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We want to see them suffering eating disorder.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
And oh I don't. I don't want to see it.
I don't want to see blossom and I know no
in Bubbles.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I get your take on nostalgia. There was a small
pocket of time where it did work and now it's
not working as much. And the Powerfuff Girls was a
big example of like, oh, this was this was doomed,
this was a bad idea, and it's it's a good
thing this didn't get released.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
But we've seen it now with Ghostbusters. Ghost Busters came, yeah,
the last one came out last year, and then was
totally doll crap that Frozen Empire came out, last year.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But you know what's funny is After Life did phenomenal
because After Life continued the story and it wasn't trying
to hit on nostalgia as much, right, it was trying
to build off like the legacy ye as an Empire
went back to nostalgia. It went back to like, hey,
we got dan Aykroyd back, we got Bill Murray back,
we got the guy who plays Winston what's his name,
(35:27):
Ernie Hudson, Ernie Hudson. We got Ernie Hundson in here,
Like we're bringing back all these classic characters and.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, back in the yard, remember the library and Middle
of the Lion and Slim.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, and then it just it was too much. It's like, guys,
you had you had a great concept with just like
you know, we're somewhere in the Midwest and there's ghosts
out here, and there's I mean, yeah, there's still connected
to the original Ghostbusters, but there's still new characters.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It's like, yeah, it's Egon's brand. Kids that discover this stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
If they wanted to go to a new city. How
come you didn't go to Los Angeles as well?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Los Angeles, yeah, or any or anywhere anywhere would have
been better than Hey, we brought it back to New York.
And also there's this ghost squirrel and there's this guy
who's a descendant of this like fire bender.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh god.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
So it's just man's nostalgia is really really starting to
it's starting to be kind of bad.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Man. It's started starting to kickout, but it's starting to
kick off.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But it worked for a little bit. There was a
piece of time where it's like it really worked great. Yeah,
and now it's just not it's not hidden.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
No, it's not not at all.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's the entertainment industry. Man, things work until they don't,
you know.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
And you know Hollywood, they're going to keep bleeding and
dry until oh yeah, you know, until it's done. They're
going to keep milking it until you say you don't
want it no more.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
No especially Yeah, that's that's just how Hollywood is. And
then you know, you you have these original concepts that
try to come out and unfortunately like they're not doing
so well because they're they're from smaller, smaller companies or
they don't have the big name actor. At the same time,
pople are getting tired of seeing big name actors and
things where it's like, oh, they got the rock in
(37:04):
this movie, right, But then it's like, well, you have
all these other really original ideas out there if you
want to go watch this, No, I'm gonna go watch
the next movie with the Rock. So you just said
you're tired of the Rock? Yeah, but this movie looks good?
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Sometimes people just want to complain, Just complain it.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It sounds like, yeah, that's all I had for you today.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's it, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
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