April 4, 2025 • 51 mins
In this episode of On The Go with Jacob and James, the duo dives deep into the recent losses in the celebrity world, reflecting on the passing of Val Kilmer and the impact of such losses on fans and the entertainment industry. Jacob and James share their favorite Kilmer films, from "Top Gun" to "Tombstone," reminiscing about his iconic roles and contributions to cinema. The conversation shifts as they discuss Will Smith's new album, which features a unique perspective on the challenges of fame and public perception. Moving on to CinemaCon, they break down the latest buzz surrounding major studios like Warner Brothers and Sony, including the highly anticipated "Superman" and the new Spider-Man film titled "Brand New Day." Jacob and James also explore the intriguing casting choices in upcoming projects, including the return of beloved X-Men characters and the potential implications for the Marvel universe. With plenty of humor and insightful commentary, this episode is a must-listen for pop culture enthusiasts!
Val Kilmer Tribute: (00:00)Will Smith's New Album: (03:12)CinemaCon Highlights: (04:15)Spider-Man: Brand New Day Discussion: (11:07)Beyond Spider-Verse Release Date: (16:13)The Beatles: (20:31)Goat: (23:08)X-Men Casting News: (25:06)A.I Trailers: (35:54)Toxic Avenger: (44:01)
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Val Kilmer Tribute: (00:00)Will Smith's New Album: (03:12)CinemaCon Highlights: (04:15)Spider-Man: Brand New Day Discussion: (11:07)Beyond Spider-Verse Release Date: (16:13)The Beatles: (20:31)Goat: (23:08)X-Men Casting News: (25:06)A.I Trailers: (35:54)Toxic Avenger: (44:01)
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dinner. I feel so damn good. I got a phoner.
I'm released a new episode today. Listen to it my
boner boner.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
All right, everyone, welcome into episode eight of the On
Thego Show. I am Jacob Dantone, and across the airwaves
through the internet on the other side of the state
is my co host.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hey, what's going on? Jacob?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hey James, what's going on? What's happening? Man, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Before we get into the meeting meat and potatoes of
the show, I want to point out that twenty twenty
five has been a awful year for celebrities demand unfortunately,
like what is it? Valcilmer recently passed pass away last night. Yeah, pneumonia,
I believe is the case, and he was dealing with
I think some sort of throat cancer. What worries me
(00:58):
the most, James, is the age of these celebrities sometimes
because yeah, bel Kimer is like, what sixty.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Five, sixty five?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's pretty young, and I mean, you know, I don't
know if you realized this, but we're getting closer and
closer to like some of these ages.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, this is a this is pretty Uh, it's pretty alarming. Yeah,
it's pretty sad too. He was a good actor, man,
he was. I like this documentary. His documentary was really good.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh, Val, Yeah, I keep hearing about that one.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
That was really good. He made a lot of amends
with a lot of people. Yeah, you know, he was
the most perfect person.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Also just iconic rolls, right, Iceman from Top Gun. He
was Batman at one point.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Tombstone, Yeah, Jim Morrison.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, Jim Morrison from the Door's biopic, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He was also in h what's it other movie with
a Marlon Brando, Uh, when he was on that island. Uh, yeah,
Island Doctor Monroe.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh that one. Oh okay, that's been remade a couple
of times.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Too, which was a story within himself. Yeah, that's a
story with that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I remember you telling me about that like way back when.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, Doctor Monroe. God man, that was crazy. Right.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
What's your favorite Valcomer movie?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh see, it's between Jim Morrison the Doors. Uh, I
like to Sink to the Saint was pretty good. He
did that movie. Okay, Tombstone is a really good one. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Tombstone is a classic for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's an eighties movie he did back in the day.
That was like a comedy and that was really good too.
I forgot the name of it. I can't. I can't
tell you the name right now off the top of
the head. But yeah, he did some of the classic movies.
I don't really have a favorite, right. I did love
him as Bruce Wayne as Batman, to be honest with you,
I really really did. Yeah he does. He deserves a
little bit more credit for that role, at least planning
(02:49):
for dual roles. Dual roles. He actually did pretty.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Good with Wayne and Batman.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just just just sad, man.
I hate to see that. I hate to hear that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, upsetting, And I mean twenty twenty five, man is
just take taking celebrities out, dude. You know well, I
mean it's taking more than celebrities out. It's taking a
lot of people.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Out, so taking musical artists and everything.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh yeah, crazy. Another thing I wanted to bring up.
And I literally just saw this when I was like
scrolling before we started recording today, James is will Smith
dropped an.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Album yeah, yeah, one last week.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I just saw it, like I was scrolling through reels,
and uh, one of the reels, I guess from his
The first track on the album was just like people
just talking crap about Will Smith behind his back, like
he was doing the different voices and the different like
what they were saying, what they've been saying about. I
was like, what, I'm gonna have to listen to this, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It was, it was. It was pretty retrospective. I'm introspective
as I as they say, it was really good. I
liked it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I'm definitely interested in checking it out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So you were listening to On the Go with Jacob
m J. It's not a podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What do you think about CinemaCon this year? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, well, you had Sony the day before yesterday.
I mean, of course last night you had Warner Brothers
and Lionsgate, which was like the big deal. I think
tomorrow WI should be Thursday. It will be Disney. I
think it's Disney tomorrow. I'm not mistaken. But our Warner
Brothers it was yesterday, so you know, they had Superman.
Superman was big on the table, had like a little
five minute preview for that, showed a lot of crypto fortuness,
(04:44):
saw tude and I was supposed to show I think
they post show another five minute clip during Minecraft this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
During Minecraft or four Minecraft before Minecraft.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, okay, so they're gonna show a five minute preview
for it. From when I saw the people that were
down there, they said it was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It was pretty good for the Superman stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yep, it looks it looks a lot like the you know,
the comic books and cartoons. Yeah. I know, some people
just like, you know, it has a there's no central plot,
you know, is this is all these different.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Zack Snyder fans are really just going against this movie
so hard.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, I mean, look, the test screenings kind of you
have to take that with a grain of salt, because
test screenings means nothing, you know, test screening, so oh
it was just a bunch of critics, So you won't
really know anything until the audience sees it, you know. Yeah,
but you know there have been leaks, you know, there's
been people trying to spoil things. Is one guy, he
(05:41):
just he decides he wants to spoil who's playing Jarell
because he's he wants to induce bag. Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I had seen something about that, but I just kind
of keep scrolling sometimes, you know what I mean? It's
like it's like you see something and like you immediately
delete it out of your head.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I already saw it already, so I was like, okay, cool.
I was like, he'll probably probably won't ever get in
to another, uh, you know, to another event in his
entire life. He decided to let some money on the
internet get him rolled up, so he spoiled that one.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
People don't want to be surprised anymore, you know, like
you can't just sit back and wait for it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You gotta Well, this guy did it. I was sure
being an asshole, yeah, because he was. He's a guy
that's credible in the business, and he decided to spoil
it because some dude in the reddit was saying that
he's not legit, so he spoiled it on purpose. You know.
It turns out it really is true. It really is true.
(06:34):
But they were trying to keep it. It's like they
were trying to keep it a surprise for the most part,
because the person that's playing Darrell, it's gonna have a small,
small cameo. It's not really like a big deal, but
you know, you kind of want to keep it a
little bit of surprise, right, I.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Mean, I imagine I don't know, I imagine the Durrell casting.
Isn't that like that important? And he's a big character
to Superman And I understand this, but in the in
the entirety of like a Man movie, you're not really
waiting for the Direll scene, you know what I mean? No, no,
like you could really just throw anybody in there for
the five minutes he's going to be in there.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So so when I found out who it is, I
was like, Okay, that's that's that seems on par with
James Gunn. That's on par.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Apparently there's another Cat in the Hat movie coming out.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I see this Bill Hayter playing Cat in the Hat
as well. I think they did something for that too
as well.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is it live action? Okay? Good good? I don't I
don't want another Mike Myers whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That was.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Holy oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The lady, uh, the lady of Doctor Sue's the wife,
she said, she doesn't want you on live action films.
Yeah right, they all have to be animated.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I mean, you knocked the you knocked the ball
out of the park with the grange, and then you immediately.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Just tear She didn't like she didn't like the Brench
She never liked the Grinch because it was too much.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, make humor that tracks. I understand that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, she she didn't like the Grinch and she didn't
like Cat and Hack. Just feel like her husband's work
was being very disrespected.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, the kind of hat was a little too extreme.
Mike Myers was a forecasting for that one.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, I mean not to go off the rails, you know,
seems cinemicon. But those two movies, the pages of the
story you only half but ten pages, ten pages or
five pages at best, not very long. Yeah, it's not
very long. So it's like you have to feel it
in the blanks. I'm feeling the spots there are lacking story, right,
(08:28):
So that's what happened when you do these type of movies.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right now, let me ask you this, are you a
Legend of Zelda fan?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
No, okay, so I played it. I played it back
in the day, But I'm not like a crazy thing
about it. I see.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So you probably have no feelings one way or another
about the Legend Zelda movie that they're actually really okay,
that's fair. I just know like it has It's one
of those things that's like been kind of not demanded,
but like asked for a lot by the fans. So
I am curious to see how that one turns out.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I think that's Sony if I'm not mistaken when I
heard they hit Theirs out of the park Sony. We'll
get to that the minute, okay, because uh, you know
a lot of Spider Man stuff on that one.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, you're good. I didn't mean to overstep.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I was just no, no, you're good. We go get
to it because that one actually has a lot of
Spider Man stuff to it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, I'm excited to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, lions Gate they did their deal. What did they cover?
I Know what you did last summer?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's a sequel or a reboot.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I guess it's like a reboot. Wow, okay, maybe it's
a single or reboot. I kind of fast forward through
that because I really don't care about I Know what
you did last summer? Right?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And well, I mean also, it's like it's another slasher.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's another slash slasher.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Genre is not really that surprising these days.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, so I really didn't hold that in her in
the regard I got. My main concern was talking about
Superman was like seeing that and seeing the reactions and yeah,
you know, seeing all that. You know, they came out
on stage and from when I heard with that, like
it was kind of awkward because they didn't say anything new.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, it was it like it's coming this summer.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, you know, it was cool to see them, you know,
it was cool to see David Cornswet and Rachel Brown's
in and whole. But it's like they didn't say anything new.
So most of the people were just there because we
just want to see the footage, right at this point,
that's all we want to see.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right, And you know what, it kind of makes sense
that they wouldn't say anything new because it's so close
to the release date. At this point, we're three two,
three months out right because it's April, so yeah, July
is the seventh, so yeah, it's there's not a lot
more you can reveal without spoiling at this point, you
know what I mean. So I get why they wouldn't
have much more to say about it, because it's like, well,
I mean, James Gunn did such an excellent job on
(10:40):
keeping people up to date during the production of the
film as it is, if I recall correctly, he did yeah.
I think when you get to CinemaCon, you're like, all right,
well I kind of showed you everything I can show you.
So here's we brought a clip.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, he's so like, it was a lot of stuff
you see showed. Now, it wasn't like it just showed
that fire and the clip showed behind the scenes and
it looks looks very very supermanised. It looks very very
comic bookish, I would hope. So, so I'm very excited
for that. And the day before that, they did you know, Sony.
Sony was the big deal there. You know, we knew
(11:14):
we were Spider Man stuff eventually. And I'm so happy
that we finally got a title for it so we
can keep his AI generated names and coming up with
names and stuff for the name of the Damren movie.
So they finally called it a Brand New Day.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That makes sense because that follows the story that they
kind of started in No Way Home, where he kind
of he got doctor Strangs who raise everyone's memories. That's
straight from the comics. That's that's right after the Civil
War storyline, because in the in the Civil War comics,
he exposes himself as Peter Parker because he's on Iron
Man's side, much like the movie, and he wants to
(11:52):
take it back. So in the comics he makes a
deal with Mephisto and not Strange, so he makes a
deal with the double gets everyone to forget that Peter
Parker's Spider Man. So it is kind of nice that
they're following, like chronologically the storylines. At least I am
curious as to see is this gonna be like a
(12:12):
standalone Is he gonna be on his own in this movie,
or if he's gonna have like some kind of support
because MCU Spider Man has had support for so long,
and if you've noticed, and even in the other media,
like the newer cartoons like the like even the newer
Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man cartoon that came out I watched
there recently. It's so ingrained in the new Spider Man
(12:33):
lore that he has somebody helping him out, whether it's
Tony or I think even like the old Twin Spider
Man cartoon where when Drake Bell was voicing him, he
had like Luke Cage and White Tiger and Iron Fists
as like teammates.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, it's it's one of those things where it's like
growing up with the animated series, like you're so used
to seeing Spider Man alone, or even like the original
Spider Man movies, and like the original Spider Man Lawyer,
you're so used to seeing him alone that it feels
weird to see him have like a supporting cast. But
I guess you know that's that's just how things go.
It's how life is. Sometimes things change, you know what
(13:09):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, I mean it takes place in the middle of
doomsday supposedly.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Or alongside doomsday. We don't know for sure yet, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
No one knows for sure, So it is this, you know,
skeptical of what it could be. You know, who Sadie
Scenk could be.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Right, A lot of people are saying Mary Jane. I
don't think they're gonna do that because you you've already
solidified Zendia as names to use MJ. And while she's
not Mary Jane, she's already MJ in this world, right, Like,
I don't I don't think you need to bring Sadie
sink in to be like this is the rule, Mary Jane.
I think you bring her in to be somebody else.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You're right, You're right, who that is.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm unsure. It could be Gwynn, it could be Black Hat,
it could be any of the other girlfriends that Peter
Parker has had in the comics over the years.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It just wouldn't make sense to just bring in this
person who say you think is a good actors don't
get it wrong, right, But she's clearly a redhead. Yeah,
it seems strange like you couldn't find another person to
play a blonde. Yeah, gwyn Stacy. So, as much as
I hate to say, it has to be one of
the two, either Jean Gray.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Or Yeah, jing Gray is a big one. Someone suggests it.
I don't know if you've ever seen this, but like
back in the sixties they had a Spider Man cartoon
and it was Peter Parker his roommates with like Iceman
and Firestar.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh yeah, and they're.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Like a little trio of superheroes. So someone suggested it
could be a fire Star situation. So that, I mean
that would be deep cuts if.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's a random casting as a random cast.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But again, if if you're on the track to introduce mutants,
like a fire Star and even an Iceman would kind
of fit in there. It's just it's a lot to
introduce in a news beginning of a trilogy for Spider Man,
in between this giant event between Doomsday and Secret Wars.
Because again, this movie is gonna be a bridge of
(15:06):
some sort. So it's like, how how much new are
you gonna put in here that's not gonna be affected
by the two big Avengers movies? Ru Sandwiston, I.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Totally forgot about that. Yeah, I don't know. It's very
random casting. It's a random casting.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
We'll see, We'll see what she turns out to be.
She could be a villain.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean, look, my guess is that she's probably playing
MJ unfortunately, or some version of MJ. Could be an
alternate version of it, you know what I'm saying. It
could be a multiverse version of MJ.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, that would be so lazy though.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean, we'll sell Jacob the multi versus lazy. Yeah,
the multi verse is lazy. I don't like him. And
this is why I'll be glad when they get done
with this, because all this stuff is cheap politricks.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, well at this point, it's just all nostalgia now.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, this nostalgia and cheap politriics to bring back old
school people they will be seen.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
To get to get butts and seats.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. We know we're gonna talk
about the you know, the rest of the Avengers that
we didn't get a chance to talk about. So you know,
we talked about which called it miles rounds. We didn
talk about their real quick.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, be on the Spider Verse. Yeah, we finally got
a release date, We finally got some screenshots. It just
seems to be the most concrete update we've gotten for
this film. So that's exciting. I mean, what are your thoughts,
what are your thoughts on the way it looks or
how it sounds? Like, what what are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I mean, it looks good. Yeah, that's that's that's yeah.
I saw the pictures too. It didn't really look anything
different than what I saw before.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's a fair fair point.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Movies that gonna come out. So that twenty seven God,
guy Willing.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, you got two more years. And you know, someone
made the comment that like, hey, you know when they
when they first showed like the teaser or when they
first showed some stuff for this Across the Spider Verse movie,
it was twenty twenty one, and it didn't come out
until twenty twenty three, So like, so two year times
differ instance, Like, don't be too worried about that, because
that's what they did for the last movie. The difference
is like they've already promised this movie to come out
(17:09):
two years ago or a year ago.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And the difference is also it's not it's a continuation.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's a continuation.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know, it's clearly a continuation. You know, like when
it first one came out, it was we knew they would,
We knew they were gonna make another one, but we
didn't know that it was gonna take It didn't it
didn't end on the cliffhanger, that's right.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Right, the second one very clearly it expanded the universe
so far, and it clearly had like a direction and
a cliffhanger that it wanted to go in. And then
I don't know, something happened on the back end somewhere
except that delayed it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I think, can you imagine being wordy for a movie
and it's late for four years after after a cliffhanger,
it ends on a complete cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, especially that kind of cliffhanger, you know. Yeah, like
the alternate universe Miles like that's the very end of
the movie, because it feels like it's it's just about
to really ramp up and then bam into movie.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And that is why I don't like cliffhanger movies. Yeah,
that is why I don't like cliffhanger movies, because it's
a risk that you run by doing cliffhanger movies. And
more and more people start one and more movies are
starting to do cliffhangers. I'm like, stop doing clan Well.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean, it's okay to do if you've done the
movie back to back, you know what I mean, Like
if you're for sure, like you're in post production for
the next film already, like Endgame in Infinity War, and
they did those movies back to back. They knew what
was happening, they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know what I mean, you got you gotta do
those movies back to back. Man, Like, I don't even
want to be in post production. Yeah it needs to
be I'm sorry, sorry, Yeah, yeah, he needs to be
a post production and we're ready to roll out the
next year after like Wicked. Wicked, Yeah, already Roll is
already ready to roll out.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, they got the they got the poster out. The
poster looks kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Cool, all ready to roll out.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Man, Yeah, because they did it back to it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Then do it back to back, like to sip. I understanding,
you know, doing them doing this Miles Morales movie. It
takes forever because the artwork is so rich and you know,
it's so different, it's so unique, so it takes time
and money to you know, to get all that done.
So I understand that. But it's still either don't en
(19:18):
it in a cliffhanger or you just you know, do
it back to back and you wait five or six
years to put out the sequel, the second sequel.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, I agree to both.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So yeah, it looks you know, I can't wait for it. Hopefully.
I definitely have to go back and watch the second
one again. It's been a long time. So I watched
that one.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, you know what's funny, it's like you watch that
movie and not on what really happens in the second one.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's a long movie and it's really it's it's a
big setup for the next one. And that that's also
part of the problem, right, because the second one is
there's so much that happens, but there's also like so
little that happens. It's like, oh, yeah, they go to
the Spider Man India's world, and then they go to
the Spider Society place and then they chase down Mile
so and then Miles is back on Earth, but oh wait,
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he's not back on Earth. And that's pretty much like
that's like three fourths of your movie, you.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Know, Yeah, it is all pretty much set up.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, so I'm hey, it'll it'll be great to finally
see where this goes, where.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
This ends, and hopefully this is the end, and.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think it is. I think it ends with this trilogy.
And then after that it's gonna be the discussion of
do we bring Miles into the live action or you know,
what do we do after that?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah? True, So let's.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
See what else happened with some of the con Man
What else are we missing?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The Beatles? The Beatles is doing like four.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Movies, did you four movies? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I saw it, and they're all supposed to come out
the same year. I don't see that happening, sir.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah kidding. I've never seen a group that was
so overrated, have like have this much height. I'll say,
you have a kid. I'm not. I'm not a Beagles.
I'm not a Beatles fan. I never have I never
will be. And that's fair. I understand that contributions to
rock and writing, but I've never really cared for the
Beatles like that. I'm more of a rolling Stones down
(21:09):
that era, all the way on down, all the way
on down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I just don't. I just don't see them doing
four movies for one year.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Four. So there's there's four movies for what.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Each one of them, John Ringo, George Paul will all
be released in April twenty twenty eight, says the website.
I'm looking out here, he kidding me. I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So they give four movies a piece by themselves.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, Sam Mendez is supposedly directing all of them. You
got Paul Mezcale is Paul McCartney. John Lennon is played
by Harris Dickinson. Ringo Starr is Barry Keyogan, and George
Harrison is Joseph Quinn, our very own Johnny Storm.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So are there stories that important individually that you have
to do a story individually? You know?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think the only one would be John Lennon because
he's like the more famous one of the group. But
also I don't know because like the joke about Ringo
is like Ringo is like the most least like of
the band, the person you know. Yeah, I just don't
see how each individual one needs a on movie. I
agree with you, I don't really think that needs to happen,
(22:23):
but that seems to be what they're trying to do.
Give this is three years from now. I like I said,
I don't think all four are going to come out
in April. If they managed to put all four out
in April, incredible, Like, good for you managed to do it,
But I don't see it happening a four film cinematic event.
It's tagline as yeah, the Beatles Cinematic Universe.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Such an egotistical thing. Well whatever what ever, Like it's
just no fits to the actress. I love the actress,
Like the whole group of guys, like this is so
crazy because all those guys have been involved on talks
to be in comic books are already in comic books,
(23:06):
So it's kind of crazy on that part.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
What do you think about this Goat movie coming out?
Have you seen anything about this?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
All I saw it was a silhouette.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, Stephen Curry is behind it or is it about him?
The story of Old Harris Okay, okay, it's it's all fictional, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, it's a fictional story.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I've only seen that silhouette, and I assume
I guess it's gonna have the same kind of animation
as Spider Verse, because that's what that's the big it's
like big on the poster. Yeah, so it'll be I mean,
animated basketball movie.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, it's you know, it's it'll do good for the summertime. Yeah,
for the summertime. They also show to it, uh, I've
got as we moved away from a symbol con They
also show one more thing too about d C, the
Dynamic Duo. They show how yeah, the puppet thing. Yeah,
they show looking they said, it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, I think so. I had seen a video a
while back when we first covered it. I found a
video a while back, like of the puppeteers playing with
the puppets or you know, showcasing the puppets and how
they change emotions, and the puppets do look really really good.
It doesn't look like like a claymation, like how we're
used to. It looks very like that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The puppet technology is interesting to me, if that if
that makes sense, you know, like the the facial expression
has changed so seamlessly it almost looks animated.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So that's gonna be an interesting one when that comes out.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And it might if I'm not punching a jowey in
a fie wrestling a croc. I'm listening and James on
the Go podcasts this podcast down and Crocky a coola.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Ben just took me launch.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I gotta go bait him with a digger it, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So yeah, we have the rest of the Doomsday cast
to kind of go back over as as you know,
when we were recording last week, they were like ten
names in of this five and a half hour expedition
to reveal the names of the cast of Doomsday, which
everyone was saying, how bad an idea this was? I
think you said it was a bad idea. Well we
(25:31):
were both kind of like, yeah, this is kind of weird,
but it's so funny because it it worked, you know
what I mean. It got everybody's attention in the most
dumb way.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, Unfortunately, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And it's just it's kind of mildly infuriating when you
when you see it like working like that, we're like, ah,
we we did exactly what they wanted us to do.
They got us, They got us good on that one. So,
I mean, the biggest reveals, obviously just getting right into it,
is some of the X Men or coming back. Whether
they're the X Men from the old movies, they're the
(26:04):
same actors, but whether the X Men from the old
movies or not, they're coming back. So we got Kelsey Grammer,
which I think popped up last time, and then Patrick Stewart,
Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen alan coming back as Nightcrawler. I'm
I'm actually excited for that man because that his version
of Nightcrawler was really cool. I think that was my
(26:26):
first introduction to Nightcrawler in that X two movie, and
that opening scene is freaking iconic. Love him trying to
assassinate the president. You couldn't do that scene today, you know, No,
Like that was talk about sign of the times.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
No, I ain't the way you could do that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, Man, that that whole opening scene is still it
still holds up. So I'm excited to see him back.
We got Rebecca Rooman as a mistique again. James Marston
as Cyclops Tatum. Yeah, yeah, she might be wearing her
like actual like white dress or whatever she has with
(27:03):
the skulls Channing. Tatum is back his Gambit, which again,
this is another thing where I'm like, I don't know,
does he need to be back as a Gambit in
this one? Him and dead Pool and Wolverine. Was just like,
oh cool, they finally got him back. They I mean,
they finally got him in there. He was trying to
make a Gambit movie. There you go, you got, you
got your scene. It's like, do you do you need
(27:23):
to be in this movie though?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do you need to be? Not? Really? Not really, I
don't I don't really understand why he's coming back. I
just think it's just another stunt casting. The other reason
the multiverse casting.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm curious to see if he's gonna hamm up
the the Cajun accent like he did in Deadpool, or
if he's gonna tone it down for this film.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I would hope that he tones it down.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Right, That's what I would expect, all right, or.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You might be the comic the comic relief.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, he gets killed off right. I don't know, it's
who knows man, but yeah, that's that's that's all the
X Men casting. There is just those few. I mean
obviously Professor Rex he's been killed off like what four.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Times, and he's moving. And I'm pretty sure the Storm
is coming back in some capacity too as well. I'm
pretty sure they're gonna play Holly Berry.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Halle Berry or Siza also wants to play Storm apparently.
Have you seen have you seen the stories on that?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Uh? Yeah, well I don't really see that happening, because
if you bring back the O G X Men, you
have to bring it back Holly Barry. Yeah. Before you
can introduce anything new, you have to, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I mean, you know. It's interesting though, because, like you
you introduced a completely new Fantastic Four and then you're
gonna bring back the old X Men. This would have
been a good opportunity to give the show the new
x Men cast or cast the new x Men and
reveal them in the movie, not now, but in the movie.
And I guess they could still do that. This could
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be like a bait and switch.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm very very curious on how this is gonna go.
I really am Jacob I'm not gonna be real with you.
I'm gonna keep it real with you. Yeah, I'm excited see
the X Man. That mean, I ain't gonna say excited,
excited that that's a strong word. I'm just interested to
see how this all goes. I thought we were done
with the X Men. I thought we were dealing with
a lot of this stuff downest with you, I'm just interested.
(29:14):
They got about two and a half months, they got made,
and then they got July to really really really pull
some people in on what's going on. What's going on
here because Thrond the bolts Man. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you, I'm excited. I'm excited to see Century in
a void. I've seen the toy and the toy. The
(29:35):
toy looks very accurate. I know some people don't like
to suit because it's Marvel and Marvel suits. They tend
to do that little panel thing with their suits. Yeah yeah,
kind of, they did Superman, kind of James gunned this Superman.
So I'm very interested to see how this goes because
as of right now, I'm not as excited for any
(29:56):
of this right far right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I mean, and we talked about it. It's just because
there's there's not a lot of setup going on here.
And you know, you did make the comment I think
last last week is this the Avengers. You know, we
don't really have an Avengers And when you when you
look back on the first one, it was a similar case,
right because they were they weren't the Avengers and the
Avengers movie until the third act, right, Colson dies and
(30:22):
then that's when they're like, we're a team. And then
there you go. So, I I mean, I assume they're
going to try to recreate that in some form or
fashion in this one.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, you can't, because you already did it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You already did it in the Plus, the Avengers were
already established, they had broke up, they had something to
have to break them up, and it was a story
that they pulled them back together. Right with this, we
don't know, it's nothing pulled them together, that's nothing breaking
them apart. We just don't know who the hell these
people are. Yeah, like, I have no idea what the
(30:54):
Avengers are. You know, I'm not as excited, Like I've
heard some stories that Fantastic Four could get smashed at
the box office by Superman. You know, I'm not all
I'm not that excited for Petro Pascal playing M's a
fantastic I don't hate it. I don't hate the cast,
but I feel like they kind of went kind of cheap,
(31:15):
the cheap route, which I don't think you can go
to cheap route right now. I don't think there's some
time to go to cheap route if that's what they
really really true chose to do, right you know, it
has nothing to do with him being minority, It has
nothing to do with him being anything else being but
being a great actor. I just thought they kind of
went the cheap route where you didn't really have to
you could easily pay John Krasinski and gave him another
(31:38):
shot to play this guy played this role again, someone
who has bigger Not saying that Petri Pascal is not
a big actor, because I think he is a very
big actor. But there's no one in this movie and
in Doomsday other than the Robert Downe Junr that's pulling
you in the fantastic for all these movies to pull
you in and say, Yep, this is the big steak potatoes.
(32:00):
I can't I can't wait to see this.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, it's it's really it's just a big curiosity.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I don't have Chadwick. You don't have Chadwick Boseman come
back this Black Panther. Unfortunately, No, you know, it's just
it's so much. There's so much crap. It's so much
so I have no idea. I have no idea what
to expect.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I don't think anybody does. I think we're I think
we're all in the dark here. That's the word this
is going.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
They have to make do him a bad ass. They
have to make this guy a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
You have to, especially because cold introduction, right, there's no
setup for him, there's no teasing for him. There's there's
nothing done. A lot of st They tease him really
hardcore and Fantastic four, which even still that's one movie away.
So it's just you're going in cold with Doctor Doom.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That he has to be a straight bads, a straight
SERTI five killer, which he is in the comics. He
is pretty scary.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
He's scary. He's also like really petty. He just does
like him and Reed Richards have the most pay the
rivalry and all of the comic books, you know what
I mean, They're like he is just constantly trying to
one up read Richards.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You're right, man, hundred percent right, like Doctor Dune has
nothing to play with For people who know who don't
know comics, and for people who listen to the podcasts
don't know comics, I can I can tell you with
one hundred percent certainty, doctor Doom could kill Thos like that.
He killed Dono's like that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I mean, there're I mean what he's He's been a
Herald of Galactus at one point, He's gotten the Infinity
Gauntlet a couple of times. He's become the most powerful
being in the universe, probably more than once.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
He doesn't even need it. He doesn't even need it.
He doesn't need the Gauntlet.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No, And you know what's hilarious is apparently Laveria, with
what the country he's a leader of is pretty good,
like I mean as as a whole government ship, like
the people there are actually well taken care of.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Just yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That I remember saying that joke where it's like, actually
Laveria is like one of the most was like prosperous
countries and the MC in the in the comics, which
is hilarious because doctor Doom's the leader of it.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, he's the leader of it. So people don't understand, man, Like,
I'm very very curious, how you just gonna build up
to just doom like no doom like this? Man.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know. We're gonna wait and see.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We got a little over a little over a year.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, I mean we get a little taste of it,
you know with these last two movies, because yeah, that
Marvel Hands coming out, they kind of have to strike
gold a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
When is uh, when's D twenty three the big Disney convention.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I thought that in this stuff in September.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I'm just trying to see a date because I feel
like D twenty three is when we're gonna get probably
like a first look of some sort, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh yeah, but we'll probably get a first looking but
doom looks like in Fantastic four.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah potentially, yeah, potentially. I can't find an exact date
on it. So yeah, but either way, either D twenty
three or Comic Con is when we're gonna get like
some more information or San Diego Comic Con that is,
because that's the that's the big one. Where did they
quit doing that?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
No, it's just this a haven't. It's not This is
not as big anymore, right, I.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Think twenty twenty kind of took it down a peg.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, this is not as big anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Okay, So yeah, we have a we have a couple
more months and we'll we'll we'll start seeing footage or
actual photos, not potentially fake concept art.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yes, which I'm tired of, by the way.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
On the go, we're in the drive through seven seven
seven sagna where with Jacob and James.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Where did you see how YouTube? Second down? He's a
fake AI trailer?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Oh I am I think I sent you an article
about this.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes, let's fake super trailers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Screen culture is really bad about it, Like every week
there's like seven different Spider Man trailers or whatever that
they put up. I had read that they're getting demonetized
or something where it's like the movies national movie studios
themselves will let them keep doing it, but they get
the money.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, oh really I know about that.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, That's what I had read somewhere was like movie
studios are okay with it as long as they get
the demonetization from it. So it's like, yeah, you do
what you do, but we're gonna get your money because
you're faking our stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
No, I mean I didn't know. I didn't know about that.
I just thought this took it down right.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well, that might have evolved into just getting straight taken
down because then there's probably some complications there where, like
the money flow, you know, like who's who's in charge
of keeping track of that?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So I could see that like, yeah, actually, we'll just
we're just gonna take them all down, which is which
is good because all those fake trailers get really annoying.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I was very annoying. I'm done time to have looking at.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, like you're you're expecting a real trailer and then
you get duped.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And you clearly, you clearly could tell it's Ai.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh yeah, it's either AI or just like badly edit it.
Remember they used to be just edit like a bunch
of different movies together.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, until until AI took off. Then they just said,
oh Ai.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
AI is really doing some crazy stuff like the studio
Ghibli stuff recently as well.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What's his name? What's his name?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And I know Richard was like, you know, he talked
about this a couple of years ago. Oh dude, what's
the guy's name? Mel Zaki, yeah, Mihazaki yeah, me and Zaki.
You know, people are really taking off with it, and
they started doing it now more now than they ever have.
And apparently he's going to sue.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, well, good for him, right well, because also, like
imagine you curate a style and such a brand that's
immediately recognized, right like Miazaki films, the Studio Ghibli's iconic,
every single one of them. I don't think they really
miss right, like even even the newer ones. So you
you spend years of your life crafting this and then
AI just comes along and everyone's recreating it. Yeah, I'd
(38:08):
want my money too. And this is what I was
thinking about, because it's kind of like once, once the
cat's out of the bag, there's no putting it back in.
Right Like once once people are ai ing Studio Ghibli, stop,
it's not it's never gonna stop. It's never not gonna
be a thing anymore. My solution, or my suggestion would
be sue these companies or make a deal with these
companies where it's like, look, you can AI my stuff,
(38:30):
but I get I get the money or whatever you
have you have to cut me, like a licensing fee
or something. Like that, you know it, Because again, once
it's already out there and once people are doing it,
they're not gonna stop. So it's either like you can
legally do it by paying me, or every time you
do allow this to happen, I'll sue you and win,
and then we're just stuck in legal battles forever, you
(38:52):
know what I mean. And I'm sure I'm wrong on
some level, and I'm sure there's like more legal jargon
in there that somebody else can explain, but that's just
my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It sucks, man, It sucks. It does. It does.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It's very upsetting, you know, And you know, I mean
a AI is a great tool, but it's just trying
to recreate someone's art or trying to create art with
it is very hollow and like there's no there's no
art in there, you know what I mean, There's no passion.
There's just you put in a prompt in the computer
(39:26):
and it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
People take creative for it, people take credit for it,
like you can create a song, make a movie, uh,
paint a picture. You know, it is not even yours.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Like I said, I think it's it's a good tool,
and I mean I use AI sometimes for tools, right,
for for some of the some of the promotion, or
even cutting clips and whatnot. I have some programs that
I use to help me, but you know, we're not
AI ing a whole podcast or anything. And I'm seeing
things I'm in like podcast forums and stuff. I'm always
kind of studying up on things, and I've seen a
(39:57):
lot of people being like, hey, how do I AI
a podcast? And then people in the comments are like,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You don't record it just before you just talk?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, Or you know, there's people who are like, hey,
how how do I use AI to make my podcast better?
And it's like, well, you should record it properly the
first time and use use it for a tool, not
to like a cure all. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, of course, we people try to use as you know,
the end all be all because they're too lazy enough
to actually just go out and do the work right.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Or you know, if you if you own a company,
you can pay AI a lot less than you can
you know a team of people. Yeah, you know, I
mean that's that's really what it boils down to in
this situation. And we this is something that's I think
everyone's like a little afraid of especially in the in
the media industry, right is when are the when when
(40:51):
are a boss is going to let us go because
they decided AI was cheaper.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, but think about AI is it never can make
up for the human So on a capacity.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Level, you were You were very correct, my friend.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You can think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You cannot recreate the humanity that goes into nope, creating
a piece of.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Art because they're all gonna have that little gift. Like
as much as you can, you can have a whole
AI song. You can tell this AI if you just
listen to you you listen to it, you hear it.
You can hear the AI.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Oh yeah, it's it's in the it's in the tone,
like they don't have that human the human inflections.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah. Like ivn W T Clan Will Tank Clan just
put out a video and the music video is cool,
but it's all AI generated and it doesn't look real
because you could tell like the way it looks, it
looks very glossy. Yeah, I think that's the word for it.
It's glossy or.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Uncanny. I think uncanny would be a good description.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it is. But it looks good.
It looks real if you how can I say this,
It looks real if you look at it real fast.
But if you sit there and look at the whole video.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh yeah, once you stare at it a little bit,
stare at it, He's like, oh, it's not real. Here's
my question. Did they say it was AI when they
dropped it or did they just drop it and then
someone was like used AI that I don't know that,
I do not know. I think that's also a big difference, right,
because like if if you're upfront about it, I think
that makes it a little bit better because at least
you're calling yourself out.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I'm assuming I'm assuming that they probably did it say hey, hey,
this is all AI. I'm assuming it that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Because I know there's there was some artists that I
saw that they put out a music video and like
their music is like very like industrial, like like nineties
industrial kind of stuff, you know what I mean. Yeah,
if that makes sense. So they put out like a
music video for that and it was all AI. But
in the description they had said they used AI and
it's it's supposed to go along with the theme of
(42:42):
the song or the album or whatever or the video
that they put out. So it's like, yeah, if you
call yourself out and you're just like, hey, yeah, I
used it. This is the reason why I used it,
and blah blah blah. I think that's more Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I'm assuming so, I mean I think it was like
a kunk movie. It was like an anime type of
kung Fu. And you could clearly tell they I generate, I.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Feel like ban has enough money to pay an animator,
don't they Like I feel like they do. They're a
huge they're a huge group.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
There had to be a reason why they did it.
It had to be a bit of a bigger reason
why they did it, and we know right now. Yeah,
I mean like.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
They might not have They've been around for a while.
They've been around for a long enough time. They were like,
all right, whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
That's Tang Tang for life.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Man. Man. Yeah, they didn't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Didn't they have like a whole like mystery album that
they sold off to that one guy.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Uh yeah, I think I remember that story.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, it was it was like eight years ago at
this point, like they had recorded a whole album. They
never dropped it. They sold it to somebody for like
millions of dollars, and then I think he sold it
off for like millions of dollars. I don't even know
if they ever got released.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Maybe they didn't.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, so why Wild Times Tang? You're listening to ninety
six point two.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's nothing but hard rock. You're hard rock boaters.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Well, hey, uh, before I get out of here, James,
I want to bring up something now. You had sent
me a couple of weeks ago that I completely forgot
to ask you about. So on Instagram you sent me
like the poster for the next Toxic Avenger movie with
Peter de English, and it made me question, like, are
you a fan of Toxic Avenger?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
I am? It's somewhat okay? Is this is a funny?
Is a have you ever a song before?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I've tried to watch it. I I honestly I could
never get into Toxic Avengure movies. I've tried several times,
I really did. They They're just not for me.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, this is very low buzze, very niche. Yeah. Well,
it was always meant to be like a sea level movie.
It was like a sea level horror movie.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, it's not meant to be like big budget.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, so I think at the South Southwest south By
Southwest they had in Dallas, they showed like some video
for its teaser trailer and they said it was good. Man,
they said it was so good.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
It looks good. I saw the teaser. It looks interesting.
But tell me your Toxic Avenger story. How did you
How did you get into Toxic Avenger White why?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Double Toasted? Double Toasted and talked about it one time
and I was like, I don't lit to see what
this talking about. And it was just weird. It's just
a weird, weird movie. A scientist turns into this this
horrible looking creature. And the actually had a cartoon for
it too. I remember they actually had a cartoon.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I do remember that. I've seen some some clips and
some thumbnails.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I was about to say, so you remember the cartoon.
You remember the movie?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Remember the movie? Oh okay, yeah, I just I just
never got into it.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Oh okay, they got you know, have comic books for
it too.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh yeah, I know, I know it too. The trauma
verse is huge. I did my research.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Is that what's called the trauma verse?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
The trauma verse? Yeah, because it's trauma Productions is who
puts it out.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
See and I never knew that. Oh yeah, so it's
like trauma comics something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
About the comics, but I just know, like the the
overarching like Toxic Avenger stuff is trauma.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
You know. I was watching this movie the last week
National Security with Martin Lawrence and I thought about you. Yeah,
you know, you know Steve's on is right.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, people say it look like.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Him, you look exactly.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
I don't see it, but all right, I get Steve's on.
I get uh ed Sharon, Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, Steve's on.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, he's funny. I like him.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, he is good.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
He show.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
He's like the other guy or the weird guy.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I like him.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
He's never really a lead, but he's always just like
a round. So here, here you go. Trauma Entertainment Inc.
Fifty years of disrupting media. So it's been around for
like fifty years at this point. Yeah, the Toxic Avenger
is obviously like the big one.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I think that's it. Like you like, there's a whole
website that you can kind of explore. There's like Traumaville,
which is a production company.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I think I think Trump I think it's supposed to
be like their version of a Toxic Avenge, supposed to
be that, their their version of what's that swamp thing?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
It's gory. It's very gory, Yeah, very very much.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
So.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I think he had like two sequels. He had Toxic
Avenger one then Toxic Avenger too. I think he had
like a side kick. Yeah, yeah, he had like a
mini sidekick.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, they've got they got a lot of movies. I'm
looking at the list right, a whole just a lot
of movies.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, yeah, would you watch it the new version?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
You know, I'm curious about it, but it so this
is what happens. I get curious about Toxic Adventure.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Every so often, I'm like, you know what, I really
want to sit down and I really want to watch
this and I really want to, like, you know, experience
this this filmography, because it's such a niche thing and
I know there's like a huge fan base behind it.
So like every time I try to sit down and
do it and I can't. I can't make it to
the movie because it just doesn't it doesn't move the
needle for me.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Oh I get it. I toldally understand why I want
move the needle, and it was it really don't move me.
It really doesn't move the needle for me. It's just
a funny, funny story. The movie is just a freaking
funny story. And it's so it's ridiculous. Yes, it's the
most ridiculous story to was singing life.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And it's even more ridiculous that like Peter Dinklish is
now going to be them. So it's like first it
was like a six foot tall like mutant man, and
now it's Peter Dnklish like dwarf toxic Avenger.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Like a mutant almost like a mutant, and you know's
you know that was gonna be glory because he's gonna
probably be jumping on people, yeah, and by in their
noses all yeah, biting the face.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Like the teaser trailer. I saw him like whack somebody's
jaw off with the mop and it was yeah, so hey, man,
if if that's if that's your movie, that's your movie.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Man, it will be just for fun, just for fun.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I was just curious because like you sent it to
me and I was like, does James like Toxic Avenger,
Like is this No?
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I got into it because of double Toasta Double Toaster
the only ones that got me into it because they
were talking about it and he showed some clips for
it and it was it was so hell of funny.
So I was like, no, let me go watch this movie.
See what's talking about? It is the most ridiculous and
sea level horror movie superhero hard you would ever seen
your life.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a movie.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Like I said, I probably won't it's a lot more
with Peter English.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I'm excited to see what happens because you know, it
got pushed back. I think it got delayed or canceled.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, it got delayed. I think it got delayed.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, I don't know. Well, I think like certain studios
didn't want to pick it up because it was like
so gruesome. So just the just the fact that it's
finally coming out is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But I think that's everything.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I think we've completed the gauntlet of the show today.
So hey, if anybody else there wants to email us
and let let us know their thoughts on Doomsday casting, cinema,
con Toxic Avenger, Will Smith's album, you can email us
at on the Gootpod twenty twenty three at gmail dot com.
You can also find us on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube.
(50:34):
It's all at. It's all at on the go with
Jacob and James, and if you want to reach us individually,
you can find me at Jacob dantuon dot Audio. You
can find James at Nice and four.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Did I catch you off guard? Do I keep catting? No?
Speaker 1 (50:50):
No, no, I was looking at myself at copl gor.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I got you, I got you?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Well, hey, without further ado, I'm on the go. James
on the goo. We're all on the go.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
All right, everyone, welcome into episode eight of the On
Thego Show. I am Jacob Dantone, and across the airwaves
through the internet on the other side of the state
is my co host.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hey, what's going on? Jacob?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hey James, what's going on? What's happening? Man, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Before we get into the meeting meat and potatoes of
the show, I want to point out that twenty twenty
five has been a awful year for celebrities demand unfortunately,
like what is it? Valcilmer recently passed pass away last night. Yeah, pneumonia,
I believe is the case, and he was dealing with
I think some sort of throat cancer. What worries me
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the most, James, is the age of these celebrities sometimes
because yeah, bel Kimer is like, what sixty.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Five, sixty five?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's pretty young, and I mean, you know, I don't
know if you realized this, but we're getting closer and
closer to like some of these ages.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, this is a this is pretty Uh, it's pretty alarming. Yeah,
it's pretty sad too. He was a good actor, man,
he was. I like this documentary. His documentary was really good.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh, Val, Yeah, I keep hearing about that one.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
That was really good. He made a lot of amends
with a lot of people. Yeah, you know, he was
the most perfect person.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Also just iconic rolls, right, Iceman from Top Gun. He
was Batman at one point.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Tombstone, Yeah, Jim Morrison.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, Jim Morrison from the Door's biopic, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He was also in h what's it other movie with
a Marlon Brando, Uh, when he was on that island. Uh, yeah,
Island Doctor Monroe.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh that one. Oh okay, that's been remade a couple
of times.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Too, which was a story within himself. Yeah, that's a
story with that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I remember you telling me about that like way back when.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, Doctor Monroe. God man, that was crazy. Right.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
What's your favorite Valcomer movie?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh see, it's between Jim Morrison the Doors. Uh, I
like to Sink to the Saint was pretty good. He
did that movie. Okay, Tombstone is a really good one. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Tombstone is a classic for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's an eighties movie he did back in the day.
That was like a comedy and that was really good too.
I forgot the name of it. I can't. I can't
tell you the name right now off the top of
the head. But yeah, he did some of the classic movies.
I don't really have a favorite, right. I did love
him as Bruce Wayne as Batman, to be honest with you,
I really really did. Yeah he does. He deserves a
little bit more credit for that role, at least planning
(02:49):
for dual roles. Dual roles. He actually did pretty.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Good with Wayne and Batman.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just just just sad, man.
I hate to see that. I hate to hear that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, upsetting, And I mean twenty twenty five, man is
just take taking celebrities out, dude. You know well, I
mean it's taking more than celebrities out. It's taking a
lot of people.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Out, so taking musical artists and everything.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh yeah, crazy. Another thing I wanted to bring up.
And I literally just saw this when I was like
scrolling before we started recording today, James is will Smith
dropped an.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Album yeah, yeah, one last week.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I just saw it, like I was scrolling through reels,
and uh, one of the reels, I guess from his
The first track on the album was just like people
just talking crap about Will Smith behind his back, like
he was doing the different voices and the different like
what they were saying, what they've been saying about. I
was like, what, I'm gonna have to listen to this, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It was, it was. It was pretty retrospective. I'm introspective
as I as they say, it was really good. I
liked it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I'm definitely interested in checking it out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So you were listening to On the Go with Jacob
m J. It's not a podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What do you think about CinemaCon this year? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, well, you had Sony the day before yesterday.
I mean, of course last night you had Warner Brothers
and Lionsgate, which was like the big deal. I think
tomorrow WI should be Thursday. It will be Disney. I
think it's Disney tomorrow. I'm not mistaken. But our Warner
Brothers it was yesterday, so you know, they had Superman.
Superman was big on the table, had like a little
five minute preview for that, showed a lot of crypto fortuness,
(04:44):
saw tude and I was supposed to show I think
they post show another five minute clip during Minecraft this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
During Minecraft or four Minecraft before Minecraft.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, okay, so they're gonna show a five minute preview
for it. From when I saw the people that were
down there, they said it was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It was pretty good for the Superman stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yep, it looks it looks a lot like the you know,
the comic books and cartoons. Yeah. I know, some people
just like, you know, it has a there's no central plot,
you know, is this is all these different.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Zack Snyder fans are really just going against this movie
so hard.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, I mean, look, the test screenings kind of you
have to take that with a grain of salt, because
test screenings means nothing, you know, test screening, so oh
it was just a bunch of critics, So you won't
really know anything until the audience sees it, you know. Yeah,
but you know there have been leaks, you know, there's
been people trying to spoil things. Is one guy, he
(05:41):
just he decides he wants to spoil who's playing Jarell
because he's he wants to induce bag. Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I had seen something about that, but I just kind
of keep scrolling sometimes, you know what I mean? It's
like it's like you see something and like you immediately
delete it out of your head.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I already saw it already, so I was like, okay, cool.
I was like, he'll probably probably won't ever get in
to another, uh, you know, to another event in his
entire life. He decided to let some money on the
internet get him rolled up, so he spoiled that one.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
People don't want to be surprised anymore, you know, like
you can't just sit back and wait for it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You gotta Well, this guy did it. I was sure
being an asshole, yeah, because he was. He's a guy
that's credible in the business, and he decided to spoil
it because some dude in the reddit was saying that
he's not legit, so he spoiled it on purpose. You know.
It turns out it really is true. It really is true.
(06:34):
But they were trying to keep it. It's like they
were trying to keep it a surprise for the most part,
because the person that's playing Darrell, it's gonna have a small,
small cameo. It's not really like a big deal, but
you know, you kind of want to keep it a
little bit of surprise, right, I.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Mean, I imagine I don't know, I imagine the Durrell casting.
Isn't that like that important? And he's a big character
to Superman And I understand this, but in the in
the entirety of like a Man movie, you're not really
waiting for the Direll scene, you know what I mean? No, no,
like you could really just throw anybody in there for
the five minutes he's going to be in there.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So so when I found out who it is, I
was like, Okay, that's that's that seems on par with
James Gunn. That's on par.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Apparently there's another Cat in the Hat movie coming out.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I see this Bill Hayter playing Cat in the Hat
as well. I think they did something for that too
as well.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is it live action? Okay? Good good? I don't I
don't want another Mike Myers whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That was.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Holy oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The lady, uh, the lady of Doctor Sue's the wife,
she said, she doesn't want you on live action films.
Yeah right, they all have to be animated.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I mean, you knocked the you knocked the ball
out of the park with the grange, and then you immediately.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Just tear She didn't like she didn't like the Brench
She never liked the Grinch because it was too much.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, make humor that tracks. I understand that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, she she didn't like the Grinch and she didn't
like Cat and Hack. Just feel like her husband's work
was being very disrespected.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, the kind of hat was a little too extreme.
Mike Myers was a forecasting for that one.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, I mean not to go off the rails, you know,
seems cinemicon. But those two movies, the pages of the
story you only half but ten pages, ten pages or
five pages at best, not very long. Yeah, it's not
very long. So it's like you have to feel it
in the blanks. I'm feeling the spots there are lacking story, right,
(08:28):
So that's what happened when you do these type of movies.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right now, let me ask you this, are you a
Legend of Zelda fan?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
No, okay, so I played it. I played it back
in the day, But I'm not like a crazy thing
about it. I see.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So you probably have no feelings one way or another
about the Legend Zelda movie that they're actually really okay,
that's fair. I just know like it has It's one
of those things that's like been kind of not demanded,
but like asked for a lot by the fans. So
I am curious to see how that one turns out.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I think that's Sony if I'm not mistaken when I
heard they hit Theirs out of the park Sony. We'll
get to that the minute, okay, because uh, you know
a lot of Spider Man stuff on that one.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, you're good. I didn't mean to overstep.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I was just no, no, you're good. We go get
to it because that one actually has a lot of
Spider Man stuff to it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, I'm excited to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, lions Gate they did their deal. What did they cover?
I Know what you did last summer?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it's a sequel or a reboot.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I guess it's like a reboot. Wow, okay, maybe it's
a single or reboot. I kind of fast forward through
that because I really don't care about I Know what
you did last summer? Right?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And well, I mean also, it's like it's another slasher.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's another slash slasher.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Genre is not really that surprising these days.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, so I really didn't hold that in her in
the regard I got. My main concern was talking about
Superman was like seeing that and seeing the reactions and yeah,
you know, seeing all that. You know, they came out
on stage and from when I heard with that, like
it was kind of awkward because they didn't say anything new.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, it was it like it's coming this summer.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, you know, it was cool to see them, you know,
it was cool to see David Cornswet and Rachel Brown's
in and whole. But it's like they didn't say anything new.
So most of the people were just there because we
just want to see the footage, right at this point,
that's all we want to see.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Right, And you know what, it kind of makes sense
that they wouldn't say anything new because it's so close
to the release date. At this point, we're three two,
three months out right because it's April, so yeah, July
is the seventh, so yeah, it's there's not a lot
more you can reveal without spoiling at this point, you
know what I mean. So I get why they wouldn't
have much more to say about it, because it's like, well,
I mean, James Gunn did such an excellent job on
(10:40):
keeping people up to date during the production of the
film as it is, if I recall correctly, he did yeah.
I think when you get to CinemaCon, you're like, all right,
well I kind of showed you everything I can show you.
So here's we brought a clip.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, he's so like, it was a lot of stuff
you see showed. Now, it wasn't like it just showed
that fire and the clip showed behind the scenes and
it looks looks very very supermanised. It looks very very
comic bookish, I would hope. So, so I'm very excited
for that. And the day before that, they did you know, Sony.
Sony was the big deal there. You know, we knew
(11:14):
we were Spider Man stuff eventually. And I'm so happy
that we finally got a title for it so we
can keep his AI generated names and coming up with
names and stuff for the name of the Damren movie.
So they finally called it a Brand New Day.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That makes sense because that follows the story that they
kind of started in No Way Home, where he kind
of he got doctor Strangs who raise everyone's memories. That's
straight from the comics. That's that's right after the Civil
War storyline, because in the in the Civil War comics,
he exposes himself as Peter Parker because he's on Iron
Man's side, much like the movie, and he wants to
(11:52):
take it back. So in the comics he makes a
deal with Mephisto and not Strange, so he makes a
deal with the double gets everyone to forget that Peter
Parker's Spider Man. So it is kind of nice that
they're following, like chronologically the storylines. At least I am
curious as to see is this gonna be like a
(12:12):
standalone Is he gonna be on his own in this movie,
or if he's gonna have like some kind of support
because MCU Spider Man has had support for so long,
and if you've noticed, and even in the other media,
like the newer cartoons like the like even the newer
Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man cartoon that came out I watched
there recently. It's so ingrained in the new Spider Man
(12:33):
lore that he has somebody helping him out, whether it's
Tony or I think even like the old Twin Spider
Man cartoon where when Drake Bell was voicing him, he
had like Luke Cage and White Tiger and Iron Fists
as like teammates.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, it's it's one of those things where it's like
growing up with the animated series, like you're so used
to seeing Spider Man alone, or even like the original
Spider Man movies, and like the original Spider Man Lawyer,
you're so used to seeing him alone that it feels
weird to see him have like a supporting cast. But
I guess you know that's that's just how things go.
It's how life is. Sometimes things change, you know what
(13:09):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, I mean it takes place in the middle of
doomsday supposedly.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Or alongside doomsday. We don't know for sure yet, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
No one knows for sure, So it is this, you know,
skeptical of what it could be. You know, who Sadie
Scenk could be.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Right, A lot of people are saying Mary Jane. I
don't think they're gonna do that because you you've already
solidified Zendia as names to use MJ. And while she's
not Mary Jane, she's already MJ in this world, right, Like,
I don't I don't think you need to bring Sadie
sink in to be like this is the rule, Mary Jane.
I think you bring her in to be somebody else.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You're right, You're right, who that is.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm unsure. It could be Gwynn, it could be Black Hat,
it could be any of the other girlfriends that Peter
Parker has had in the comics over the years.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It just wouldn't make sense to just bring in this
person who say you think is a good actors don't
get it wrong, right, But she's clearly a redhead. Yeah,
it seems strange like you couldn't find another person to
play a blonde. Yeah, gwyn Stacy. So, as much as
I hate to say, it has to be one of
the two, either Jean Gray.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Or Yeah, jing Gray is a big one. Someone suggests it.
I don't know if you've ever seen this, but like
back in the sixties they had a Spider Man cartoon
and it was Peter Parker his roommates with like Iceman
and Firestar.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh yeah, and they're.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Like a little trio of superheroes. So someone suggested it
could be a fire Star situation. So that, I mean
that would be deep cuts if.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's a random casting as a random cast.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But again, if if you're on the track to introduce mutants,
like a fire Star and even an Iceman would kind
of fit in there. It's just it's a lot to
introduce in a news beginning of a trilogy for Spider Man,
in between this giant event between Doomsday and Secret Wars.
Because again, this movie is gonna be a bridge of
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some sort. So it's like, how how much new are
you gonna put in here that's not gonna be affected
by the two big Avengers movies? Ru Sandwiston, I.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Totally forgot about that. Yeah, I don't know. It's very
random casting. It's a random casting.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
We'll see, We'll see what she turns out to be.
She could be a villain.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean, look, my guess is that she's probably playing
MJ unfortunately, or some version of MJ. Could be an
alternate version of it, you know what I'm saying. It
could be a multiverse version of MJ.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, that would be so lazy though.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean, we'll sell Jacob the multi versus lazy. Yeah,
the multi verse is lazy. I don't like him. And
this is why I'll be glad when they get done
with this, because all this stuff is cheap politricks.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, well at this point, it's just all nostalgia now.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, this nostalgia and cheap politriics to bring back old
school people they will be seen.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
To get to get butts and seats.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. We know we're gonna talk
about the you know, the rest of the Avengers that
we didn't get a chance to talk about. So you know,
we talked about which called it miles rounds. We didn
talk about their real quick.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, be on the Spider Verse. Yeah, we finally got
a release date, We finally got some screenshots. It just
seems to be the most concrete update we've gotten for
this film. So that's exciting. I mean, what are your thoughts,
what are your thoughts on the way it looks or
how it sounds? Like, what what are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I mean, it looks good. Yeah, that's that's that's yeah.
I saw the pictures too. It didn't really look anything
different than what I saw before.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's a fair fair point.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Movies that gonna come out. So that twenty seven God,
guy Willing.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, you got two more years. And you know, someone
made the comment that like, hey, you know when they
when they first showed like the teaser or when they
first showed some stuff for this Across the Spider Verse movie,
it was twenty twenty one, and it didn't come out
until twenty twenty three, So like, so two year times
differ instance, Like, don't be too worried about that, because
that's what they did for the last movie. The difference
is like they've already promised this movie to come out
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two years ago or a year ago.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And the difference is also it's not it's a continuation.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's a continuation.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know, it's clearly a continuation. You know, like when
it first one came out, it was we knew they would,
We knew they were gonna make another one, but we
didn't know that it was gonna take It didn't it
didn't end on the cliffhanger, that's right.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Right, the second one very clearly it expanded the universe
so far, and it clearly had like a direction and
a cliffhanger that it wanted to go in. And then
I don't know, something happened on the back end somewhere
except that delayed it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I think, can you imagine being wordy for a movie
and it's late for four years after after a cliffhanger,
it ends on a complete cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, especially that kind of cliffhanger, you know. Yeah, like
the alternate universe Miles like that's the very end of
the movie, because it feels like it's it's just about
to really ramp up and then bam into movie.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And that is why I don't like cliffhanger movies. Yeah,
that is why I don't like cliffhanger movies, because it's
a risk that you run by doing cliffhanger movies. And
more and more people start one and more movies are
starting to do cliffhangers. I'm like, stop doing clan Well.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean, it's okay to do if you've done the
movie back to back, you know what I mean, Like
if you're for sure, like you're in post production for
the next film already, like Endgame in Infinity War, and
they did those movies back to back. They knew what
was happening, they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know what I mean, you got you gotta do
those movies back to back. Man, Like, I don't even
want to be in post production. Yeah it needs to
be I'm sorry, sorry, Yeah, yeah, he needs to be
a post production and we're ready to roll out the
next year after like Wicked. Wicked, Yeah, already Roll is
already ready to roll out.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, they got the they got the poster out. The
poster looks kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Cool, all ready to roll out.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Man, Yeah, because they did it back to it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Then do it back to back, like to sip. I understanding,
you know, doing them doing this Miles Morales movie. It
takes forever because the artwork is so rich and you know,
it's so different, it's so unique, so it takes time
and money to you know, to get all that done.
So I understand that. But it's still either don't en
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it in a cliffhanger or you just you know, do
it back to back and you wait five or six
years to put out the sequel, the second sequel.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, I agree to both.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So yeah, it looks you know, I can't wait for it. Hopefully.
I definitely have to go back and watch the second
one again. It's been a long time. So I watched
that one.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, you know what's funny, it's like you watch that
movie and not on what really happens in the second one.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's a long movie and it's really it's it's a
big setup for the next one. And that that's also
part of the problem, right, because the second one is
there's so much that happens, but there's also like so
little that happens. It's like, oh, yeah, they go to
the Spider Man India's world, and then they go to
the Spider Society place and then they chase down Mile
so and then Miles is back on Earth, but oh wait,
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he's not back on Earth. And that's pretty much like
that's like three fourths of your movie, you.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Know, Yeah, it is all pretty much set up.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, so I'm hey, it'll it'll be great to finally
see where this goes, where.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
This ends, and hopefully this is the end, and.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think it is. I think it ends with this trilogy.
And then after that it's gonna be the discussion of
do we bring Miles into the live action or you know,
what do we do after that?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah? True, So let's.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
See what else happened with some of the con Man
What else are we missing?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The Beatles? The Beatles is doing like four.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Movies, did you four movies? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I saw it, and they're all supposed to come out
the same year. I don't see that happening, sir.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah kidding. I've never seen a group that was
so overrated, have like have this much height. I'll say,
you have a kid. I'm not. I'm not a Beagles.
I'm not a Beatles fan. I never have I never
will be. And that's fair. I understand that contributions to
rock and writing, but I've never really cared for the
Beatles like that. I'm more of a rolling Stones down
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that era, all the way on down, all the way
on down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I just don't. I just don't see them doing
four movies for one year.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Four. So there's there's four movies for what.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Each one of them, John Ringo, George Paul will all
be released in April twenty twenty eight, says the website.
I'm looking out here, he kidding me. I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So they give four movies a piece by themselves.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, Sam Mendez is supposedly directing all of them. You
got Paul Mezcale is Paul McCartney. John Lennon is played
by Harris Dickinson. Ringo Starr is Barry Keyogan, and George
Harrison is Joseph Quinn, our very own Johnny Storm.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
So are there stories that important individually that you have
to do a story individually? You know?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think the only one would be John Lennon because
he's like the more famous one of the group. But
also I don't know because like the joke about Ringo
is like Ringo is like the most least like of
the band, the person you know. Yeah, I just don't
see how each individual one needs a on movie. I
agree with you, I don't really think that needs to happen,
(22:23):
but that seems to be what they're trying to do.
Give this is three years from now. I like I said,
I don't think all four are going to come out
in April. If they managed to put all four out
in April, incredible, Like, good for you managed to do it,
But I don't see it happening a four film cinematic event.
It's tagline as yeah, the Beatles Cinematic Universe.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Such an egotistical thing. Well whatever what ever, Like it's
just no fits to the actress. I love the actress,
Like the whole group of guys, like this is so
crazy because all those guys have been involved on talks
to be in comic books are already in comic books,
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So it's kind of crazy on that part.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
What do you think about this Goat movie coming out?
Have you seen anything about this?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
All I saw it was a silhouette.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, Stephen Curry is behind it or is it about him?
The story of Old Harris Okay, okay, it's it's all fictional, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, it's a fictional story.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I've only seen that silhouette, and I assume
I guess it's gonna have the same kind of animation
as Spider Verse, because that's what that's the big it's
like big on the poster. Yeah, so it'll be I mean,
animated basketball movie.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, it's you know, it's it'll do good for the summertime. Yeah,
for the summertime. They also show to it, uh, I've
got as we moved away from a symbol con They
also show one more thing too about d C, the
Dynamic Duo. They show how yeah, the puppet thing. Yeah,
they show looking they said, it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, I think so. I had seen a video a
while back when we first covered it. I found a
video a while back, like of the puppeteers playing with
the puppets or you know, showcasing the puppets and how
they change emotions, and the puppets do look really really good.
It doesn't look like like a claymation, like how we're
used to. It looks very like that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The puppet technology is interesting to me, if that if
that makes sense, you know, like the the facial expression
has changed so seamlessly it almost looks animated.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So that's gonna be an interesting one when that comes out.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And it might if I'm not punching a jowey in
a fie wrestling a croc. I'm listening and James on
the Go podcasts this podcast down and Crocky a coola.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Ben just took me launch.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I gotta go bait him with a digger it, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So yeah, we have the rest of the Doomsday cast
to kind of go back over as as you know,
when we were recording last week, they were like ten
names in of this five and a half hour expedition
to reveal the names of the cast of Doomsday, which
everyone was saying, how bad an idea this was? I
think you said it was a bad idea. Well we
(25:31):
were both kind of like, yeah, this is kind of weird,
but it's so funny because it it worked, you know
what I mean. It got everybody's attention in the most
dumb way.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, Unfortunately, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And it's just it's kind of mildly infuriating when you
when you see it like working like that, we're like, ah,
we we did exactly what they wanted us to do.
They got us, They got us good on that one. So,
I mean, the biggest reveals, obviously just getting right into it,
is some of the X Men or coming back. Whether
they're the X Men from the old movies, they're the
(26:04):
same actors, but whether the X Men from the old
movies or not, they're coming back. So we got Kelsey Grammer,
which I think popped up last time, and then Patrick Stewart,
Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen alan coming back as Nightcrawler. I'm
I'm actually excited for that man because that his version
of Nightcrawler was really cool. I think that was my
(26:26):
first introduction to Nightcrawler in that X two movie, and
that opening scene is freaking iconic. Love him trying to
assassinate the president. You couldn't do that scene today, you know, No,
Like that was talk about sign of the times.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
No, I ain't the way you could do that.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, Man, that that whole opening scene is still it
still holds up. So I'm excited to see him back.
We got Rebecca Rooman as a mistique again. James Marston
as Cyclops Tatum. Yeah, yeah, she might be wearing her
like actual like white dress or whatever she has with
(27:03):
the skulls Channing. Tatum is back his Gambit, which again,
this is another thing where I'm like, I don't know,
does he need to be back as a Gambit in
this one? Him and dead Pool and Wolverine. Was just like,
oh cool, they finally got him back. They I mean,
they finally got him in there. He was trying to
make a Gambit movie. There you go, you got, you
got your scene. It's like, do you do you need
(27:23):
to be in this movie though?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do you need to be? Not? Really? Not really, I
don't I don't really understand why he's coming back. I
just think it's just another stunt casting. The other reason
the multiverse casting.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm curious to see if he's gonna hamm up
the the Cajun accent like he did in Deadpool, or
if he's gonna tone it down for this film.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I would hope that he tones it down.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Right, That's what I would expect, all right, or.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You might be the comic the comic relief.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, he gets killed off right. I don't know, it's
who knows man, but yeah, that's that's that's all the
X Men casting. There is just those few. I mean
obviously Professor Rex he's been killed off like what four.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Times, and he's moving. And I'm pretty sure the Storm
is coming back in some capacity too as well. I'm
pretty sure they're gonna play Holly Berry.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Halle Berry or Siza also wants to play Storm apparently.
Have you seen have you seen the stories on that?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Uh? Yeah, well I don't really see that happening, because
if you bring back the O G X Men, you
have to bring it back Holly Barry. Yeah. Before you
can introduce anything new, you have to, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I mean, you know. It's interesting though, because, like you
you introduced a completely new Fantastic Four and then you're
gonna bring back the old X Men. This would have
been a good opportunity to give the show the new
x Men cast or cast the new x Men and
reveal them in the movie, not now, but in the movie.
And I guess they could still do that. This could
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be like a bait and switch.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm very very curious on how this is gonna go.
I really am Jacob I'm not gonna be real with you.
I'm gonna keep it real with you. Yeah, I'm excited see
the X Man. That mean, I ain't gonna say excited,
excited that that's a strong word. I'm just interested to
see how this all goes. I thought we were done
with the X Men. I thought we were dealing with
a lot of this stuff downest with you, I'm just interested.
(29:14):
They got about two and a half months, they got made,
and then they got July to really really really pull
some people in on what's going on. What's going on
here because Thrond the bolts Man. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you, I'm excited. I'm excited to see Century in
a void. I've seen the toy and the toy. The
(29:35):
toy looks very accurate. I know some people don't like
to suit because it's Marvel and Marvel suits. They tend
to do that little panel thing with their suits. Yeah yeah,
kind of, they did Superman, kind of James gunned this Superman.
So I'm very interested to see how this goes because
as of right now, I'm not as excited for any
(29:56):
of this right far right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I mean, and we talked about it. It's just because
there's there's not a lot of setup going on here.
And you know, you did make the comment I think
last last week is this the Avengers. You know, we
don't really have an Avengers And when you when you
look back on the first one, it was a similar case,
right because they were they weren't the Avengers and the
Avengers movie until the third act, right, Colson dies and
(30:22):
then that's when they're like, we're a team. And then
there you go. So, I I mean, I assume they're
going to try to recreate that in some form or
fashion in this one.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, you can't, because you already did it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
You already did it in the Plus, the Avengers were
already established, they had broke up, they had something to
have to break them up, and it was a story
that they pulled them back together. Right with this, we
don't know, it's nothing pulled them together, that's nothing breaking
them apart. We just don't know who the hell these
people are. Yeah, like, I have no idea what the
(30:54):
Avengers are. You know, I'm not as excited, Like I've
heard some stories that Fantastic Four could get smashed at
the box office by Superman. You know, I'm not all
I'm not that excited for Petro Pascal playing M's a
fantastic I don't hate it. I don't hate the cast,
but I feel like they kind of went kind of cheap,
(31:15):
the cheap route, which I don't think you can go
to cheap route right now. I don't think there's some
time to go to cheap route if that's what they
really really true chose to do, right you know, it
has nothing to do with him being minority, It has
nothing to do with him being anything else being but
being a great actor. I just thought they kind of
went the cheap route where you didn't really have to
you could easily pay John Krasinski and gave him another
(31:38):
shot to play this guy played this role again, someone
who has bigger Not saying that Petri Pascal is not
a big actor, because I think he is a very
big actor. But there's no one in this movie and
in Doomsday other than the Robert Downe Junr that's pulling
you in the fantastic for all these movies to pull
you in and say, Yep, this is the big steak potatoes.
(32:00):
I can't I can't wait to see this.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, it's it's really it's just a big curiosity.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I don't have Chadwick. You don't have Chadwick Boseman come
back this Black Panther. Unfortunately, No, you know, it's just
it's so much. There's so much crap. It's so much
so I have no idea. I have no idea what
to expect.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I don't think anybody does. I think we're I think
we're all in the dark here. That's the word this
is going.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
They have to make do him a bad ass. They
have to make this guy a bad ass.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
You have to, especially because cold introduction, right, there's no
setup for him, there's no teasing for him. There's there's
nothing done. A lot of st They tease him really
hardcore and Fantastic four, which even still that's one movie away.
So it's just you're going in cold with Doctor Doom.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That he has to be a straight bads, a straight
SERTI five killer, which he is in the comics. He
is pretty scary.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
He's scary. He's also like really petty. He just does
like him and Reed Richards have the most pay the
rivalry and all of the comic books, you know what
I mean, They're like he is just constantly trying to
one up read Richards.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You're right, man, hundred percent right, like Doctor Dune has
nothing to play with For people who know who don't
know comics, and for people who listen to the podcasts
don't know comics, I can I can tell you with
one hundred percent certainty, doctor Doom could kill Thos like that.
He killed Dono's like that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I mean, there're I mean what he's He's been a
Herald of Galactus at one point, He's gotten the Infinity
Gauntlet a couple of times. He's become the most powerful
being in the universe, probably more than once.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
He doesn't even need it. He doesn't even need it.
He doesn't need the Gauntlet.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No, And you know what's hilarious is apparently Laveria, with
what the country he's a leader of is pretty good,
like I mean as as a whole government ship, like
the people there are actually well taken care of.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Just yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That I remember saying that joke where it's like, actually
Laveria is like one of the most was like prosperous
countries and the MC in the in the comics, which
is hilarious because doctor Doom's the leader of it.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, he's the leader of it. So people don't understand, man, Like,
I'm very very curious, how you just gonna build up
to just doom like no doom like this? Man.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know. We're gonna wait and see.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We got a little over a little over a year.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, I mean we get a little taste of it,
you know with these last two movies, because yeah, that
Marvel Hands coming out, they kind of have to strike
gold a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
When is uh, when's D twenty three the big Disney convention.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I thought that in this stuff in September.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I'm just trying to see a date because I feel
like D twenty three is when we're gonna get probably
like a first look of some sort, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh yeah, but we'll probably get a first looking but
doom looks like in Fantastic four.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah potentially, yeah, potentially. I can't find an exact date
on it. So yeah, but either way, either D twenty
three or Comic Con is when we're gonna get like
some more information or San Diego Comic Con that is,
because that's the that's the big one. Where did they
quit doing that?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
No, it's just this a haven't. It's not This is
not as big anymore, right, I.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Think twenty twenty kind of took it down a peg.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, this is not as big anymore.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Okay, So yeah, we have a we have a couple
more months and we'll we'll we'll start seeing footage or
actual photos, not potentially fake concept art.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yes, which I'm tired of, by the way.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
On the go, we're in the drive through seven seven
seven sagna where with Jacob and James.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Where did you see how YouTube? Second down? He's a
fake AI trailer?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Oh I am I think I sent you an article
about this.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes, let's fake super trailers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Screen culture is really bad about it, Like every week
there's like seven different Spider Man trailers or whatever that
they put up. I had read that they're getting demonetized
or something where it's like the movies national movie studios
themselves will let them keep doing it, but they get
the money.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, oh really I know about that.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, That's what I had read somewhere was like movie
studios are okay with it as long as they get
the demonetization from it. So it's like, yeah, you do
what you do, but we're gonna get your money because
you're faking our stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
No, I mean I didn't know. I didn't know about that.
I just thought this took it down right.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well, that might have evolved into just getting straight taken
down because then there's probably some complications there where, like
the money flow, you know, like who's who's in charge
of keeping track of that?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So I could see that like, yeah, actually, we'll just
we're just gonna take them all down, which is which
is good because all those fake trailers get really annoying.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I was very annoying. I'm done time to have looking at.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, like you're you're expecting a real trailer and then
you get duped.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And you clearly, you clearly could tell it's Ai.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh yeah, it's either AI or just like badly edit it.
Remember they used to be just edit like a bunch
of different movies together.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, until until AI took off. Then they just said,
oh Ai.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
AI is really doing some crazy stuff like the studio
Ghibli stuff recently as well.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What's his name? What's his name?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And I know Richard was like, you know, he talked
about this a couple of years ago. Oh dude, what's
the guy's name? Mel Zaki, yeah, Mihazaki yeah, me and Zaki.
You know, people are really taking off with it, and
they started doing it now more now than they ever have.
And apparently he's going to sue.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, well, good for him, right well, because also, like
imagine you curate a style and such a brand that's
immediately recognized, right like Miazaki films, the Studio Ghibli's iconic,
every single one of them. I don't think they really
miss right, like even even the newer ones. So you
you spend years of your life crafting this and then
AI just comes along and everyone's recreating it. Yeah, I'd
(38:08):
want my money too. And this is what I was
thinking about, because it's kind of like once, once the
cat's out of the bag, there's no putting it back in.
Right Like once once people are ai ing Studio Ghibli, stop,
it's not it's never gonna stop. It's never not gonna
be a thing anymore. My solution, or my suggestion would
be sue these companies or make a deal with these
companies where it's like, look, you can AI my stuff,
(38:30):
but I get I get the money or whatever you
have you have to cut me, like a licensing fee
or something. Like that, you know it, Because again, once
it's already out there and once people are doing it,
they're not gonna stop. So it's either like you can
legally do it by paying me, or every time you
do allow this to happen, I'll sue you and win,
and then we're just stuck in legal battles forever, you
(38:52):
know what I mean. And I'm sure I'm wrong on
some level, and I'm sure there's like more legal jargon
in there that somebody else can explain, but that's just
my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It sucks, man, It sucks. It does. It does.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It's very upsetting, you know, And you know, I mean
a AI is a great tool, but it's just trying
to recreate someone's art or trying to create art with
it is very hollow and like there's no there's no
art in there, you know what I mean, There's no passion.
There's just you put in a prompt in the computer
(39:26):
and it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
People take creative for it, people take credit for it,
like you can create a song, make a movie, uh,
paint a picture. You know, it is not even yours.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Like I said, I think it's it's a good tool,
and I mean I use AI sometimes for tools, right,
for for some of the some of the promotion, or
even cutting clips and whatnot. I have some programs that
I use to help me, but you know, we're not
AI ing a whole podcast or anything. And I'm seeing
things I'm in like podcast forums and stuff. I'm always
kind of studying up on things, and I've seen a
(39:57):
lot of people being like, hey, how do I AI
a podcast? And then people in the comments are like,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You don't record it just before you just talk?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, Or you know, there's people who are like, hey,
how how do I use AI to make my podcast better?
And it's like, well, you should record it properly the
first time and use use it for a tool, not
to like a cure all. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, of course, we people try to use as you know,
the end all be all because they're too lazy enough
to actually just go out and do the work right.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Or you know, if you if you own a company,
you can pay AI a lot less than you can
you know a team of people. Yeah, you know, I
mean that's that's really what it boils down to in
this situation. And we this is something that's I think
everyone's like a little afraid of especially in the in
the media industry, right is when are the when when
(40:51):
are a boss is going to let us go because
they decided AI was cheaper.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, but think about AI is it never can make
up for the human So on a capacity.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Level, you were You were very correct, my friend.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You can think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You cannot recreate the humanity that goes into nope, creating
a piece of.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Art because they're all gonna have that little gift. Like
as much as you can, you can have a whole
AI song. You can tell this AI if you just
listen to you you listen to it, you hear it.
You can hear the AI.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Oh yeah, it's it's in the it's in the tone,
like they don't have that human the human inflections.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah. Like ivn W T Clan Will Tank Clan just
put out a video and the music video is cool,
but it's all AI generated and it doesn't look real
because you could tell like the way it looks, it
looks very glossy. Yeah, I think that's the word for it.
It's glossy or.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Uncanny. I think uncanny would be a good description.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it is. But it looks good.
It looks real if you how can I say this,
It looks real if you look at it real fast.
But if you sit there and look at the whole video.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh yeah, once you stare at it a little bit,
stare at it, He's like, oh, it's not real. Here's
my question. Did they say it was AI when they
dropped it or did they just drop it and then
someone was like used AI that I don't know that,
I do not know. I think that's also a big difference, right,
because like if if you're upfront about it, I think
that makes it a little bit better because at least
you're calling yourself out.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I'm assuming I'm assuming that they probably did it say hey, hey,
this is all AI. I'm assuming it that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Because I know there's there was some artists that I
saw that they put out a music video and like
their music is like very like industrial, like like nineties
industrial kind of stuff, you know what I mean. Yeah,
if that makes sense. So they put out like a
music video for that and it was all AI. But
in the description they had said they used AI and
it's it's supposed to go along with the theme of
(42:42):
the song or the album or whatever or the video
that they put out. So it's like, yeah, if you
call yourself out and you're just like, hey, yeah, I
used it. This is the reason why I used it,
and blah blah blah. I think that's more Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I'm assuming so, I mean I think it was like
a kunk movie. It was like an anime type of
kung Fu. And you could clearly tell they I generate, I.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Feel like ban has enough money to pay an animator,
don't they Like I feel like they do. They're a
huge they're a huge group.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
There had to be a reason why they did it.
It had to be a bit of a bigger reason
why they did it, and we know right now. Yeah,
I mean like.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
They might not have They've been around for a while.
They've been around for a long enough time. They were like,
all right, whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
That's Tang Tang for life.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Man. Man. Yeah, they didn't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Didn't they have like a whole like mystery album that
they sold off to that one guy.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Uh yeah, I think I remember that story.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, it was it was like eight years ago at
this point, like they had recorded a whole album. They
never dropped it. They sold it to somebody for like
millions of dollars, and then I think he sold it
off for like millions of dollars. I don't even know
if they ever got released.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Maybe they didn't.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, so why Wild Times Tang? You're listening to ninety
six point two.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's nothing but hard rock. You're hard rock boaters.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Well, hey, uh, before I get out of here, James,
I want to bring up something now. You had sent
me a couple of weeks ago that I completely forgot
to ask you about. So on Instagram you sent me
like the poster for the next Toxic Avenger movie with
Peter de English, and it made me question, like, are
you a fan of Toxic Avenger?
Speaker 1 (44:43):
I am? It's somewhat okay? Is this is a funny?
Is a have you ever a song before?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I've tried to watch it. I I honestly I could
never get into Toxic Avengure movies. I've tried several times,
I really did. They They're just not for me.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, this is very low buzze, very niche. Yeah. Well,
it was always meant to be like a sea level movie.
It was like a sea level horror movie.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, it's not meant to be like big budget.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, so I think at the South Southwest south By
Southwest they had in Dallas, they showed like some video
for its teaser trailer and they said it was good. Man,
they said it was so good.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
It looks good. I saw the teaser. It looks interesting.
But tell me your Toxic Avenger story. How did you
How did you get into Toxic Avenger White why?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Double Toasted? Double Toasted and talked about it one time
and I was like, I don't lit to see what
this talking about. And it was just weird. It's just
a weird, weird movie. A scientist turns into this this
horrible looking creature. And the actually had a cartoon for
it too. I remember they actually had a cartoon.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I do remember that. I've seen some some clips and
some thumbnails.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I was about to say, so you remember the cartoon.
You remember the movie?
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Remember the movie? Oh okay, yeah, I just I just
never got into it.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Oh okay, they got you know, have comic books for
it too.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh yeah, I know, I know it too. The trauma
verse is huge. I did my research.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Is that what's called the trauma verse?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
The trauma verse? Yeah, because it's trauma Productions is who
puts it out.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
See and I never knew that. Oh yeah, so it's
like trauma comics something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
About the comics, but I just know, like the the
overarching like Toxic Avenger stuff is trauma.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
You know. I was watching this movie the last week
National Security with Martin Lawrence and I thought about you. Yeah,
you know, you know Steve's on is right.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, people say it look like.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Him, you look exactly.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
I don't see it, but all right, I get Steve's on.
I get uh ed Sharon, Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, Steve's on.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, he's funny. I like him.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, he is good.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
He show.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
He's like the other guy or the weird guy.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I like him.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
He's never really a lead, but he's always just like
a round. So here, here you go. Trauma Entertainment Inc.
Fifty years of disrupting media. So it's been around for
like fifty years at this point. Yeah, the Toxic Avenger
is obviously like the big one.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I think that's it. Like you like, there's a whole
website that you can kind of explore. There's like Traumaville,
which is a production company.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I think I think Trump I think it's supposed to
be like their version of a Toxic Avenge, supposed to
be that, their their version of what's that swamp thing?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
It's gory. It's very gory, Yeah, very very much.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
So.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I think he had like two sequels. He had Toxic
Avenger one then Toxic Avenger too. I think he had
like a side kick. Yeah, yeah, he had like a
mini sidekick.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, they've got they got a lot of movies. I'm
looking at the list right, a whole just a lot
of movies.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, yeah, would you watch it the new version?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
You know, I'm curious about it, but it so this
is what happens. I get curious about Toxic Adventure.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Every so often, I'm like, you know what, I really
want to sit down and I really want to watch
this and I really want to, like, you know, experience
this this filmography, because it's such a niche thing and
I know there's like a huge fan base behind it.
So like every time I try to sit down and
do it and I can't. I can't make it to
the movie because it just doesn't it doesn't move the
needle for me.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Oh I get it. I toldally understand why I want
move the needle, and it was it really don't move me.
It really doesn't move the needle for me. It's just
a funny, funny story. The movie is just a freaking
funny story. And it's so it's ridiculous. Yes, it's the
most ridiculous story to was singing life.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And it's even more ridiculous that like Peter Dinklish is
now going to be them. So it's like first it
was like a six foot tall like mutant man, and
now it's Peter Dnklish like dwarf toxic Avenger.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Like a mutant almost like a mutant, and you know's
you know that was gonna be glory because he's gonna
probably be jumping on people, yeah, and by in their
noses all yeah, biting the face.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Like the teaser trailer. I saw him like whack somebody's
jaw off with the mop and it was yeah, so hey, man,
if if that's if that's your movie, that's your movie.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Man, it will be just for fun, just for fun.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I was just curious because like you sent it to
me and I was like, does James like Toxic Avenger,
Like is this No?
Speaker 1 (49:26):
I got into it because of double Toasta Double Toaster
the only ones that got me into it because they
were talking about it and he showed some clips for
it and it was it was so hell of funny.
So I was like, no, let me go watch this movie.
See what's talking about? It is the most ridiculous and
sea level horror movie superhero hard you would ever seen
your life.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a movie.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Like I said, I probably won't it's a lot more
with Peter English.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I'm excited to see what happens because you know, it
got pushed back. I think it got delayed or canceled.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, it got delayed. I think it got delayed.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, I don't know. Well, I think like certain studios
didn't want to pick it up because it was like
so gruesome. So just the just the fact that it's
finally coming out is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But I think that's everything.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I think we've completed the gauntlet of the show today.
So hey, if anybody else there wants to email us
and let let us know their thoughts on Doomsday casting, cinema,
con Toxic Avenger, Will Smith's album, you can email us
at on the Gootpod twenty twenty three at gmail dot com.
You can also find us on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube.
(50:34):
It's all at. It's all at on the go with
Jacob and James, and if you want to reach us individually,
you can find me at Jacob dantuon dot Audio. You
can find James at Nice and four.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Did I catch you off guard? Do I keep catting? No?
Speaker 1 (50:50):
No, no, I was looking at myself at copl gor.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I got you, I got you?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Well, hey, without further ado, I'm on the go. James
on the goo. We're all on the go.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Listen to those guys talk about anything and everything.
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Mother, keep the good work being my boner. Always gonna
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Tell you, damn camera, saf what's up? Give me up?
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