April 25, 2025 • 38 mins
In this episode of On The Go with Jacob and James, the hosts dive into the buzz surrounding the new film "Sinners," directed by Ryan Coogler. Jacob expresses his excitement about the film, discussing the high expectations set by early reviews and Coogler's impressive track record. The conversation takes a turn as they reflect on Coogler's previous works, particularly the challenges faced with "Wakanda Forever," and the studio's influence on creative decisions. James shares his thoughts on the film's unique storytelling and character dynamics, praising the performances of Michael B. Jordan and the supporting cast, including the standout role of Sammy. They also explore the film's blend of music and narrative, highlighting how the soundtrack plays a pivotal role in the story. As they dissect the film's themes and the potential for sequels or prequels, the duo emphasizes the importance of original content in today's cinematic landscape. With engaging commentary and insightful critiques, this episode is a must-listen for movie lovers and fans of Coogler's work!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I waked it up.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I feel so damn good.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I got a phoner.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm like released a new episode today, listen to it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
My boner. I'm looking forward to seeing Sandwich this weekend.
I'm really really anxious to see this Ryan Coole's work.
I'm prior to us. I'm telling everybody, man, support this guy. Man.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm hearing so many good things about this movie, like
so many early reviews, just like across the board, like
phenomenal film, which is great, but it's also kind of
scary because you hype yourself up and then you have
higher expectations.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, but it's you know, if it was anybody else,
I probably would say I agree with you. But is
Ryan Cooglist, So I have a little bit more hope.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
He does have a good track record.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, this is his project. There's no studio hands getting
involved like you did with a Black Panther, Like, there's
no studio hands with that kind of Ever, was the
only movie that I did not like?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, that was It was basically a eulogy, right, It
was a eulogy movie for Chadwick Boseman.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It was a eulogy film and also as well as
studio heads, studio hands got involved. You can'tnot make them
believe that he wanted to put an iron Heart this movie.
I know he had no plans on doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's that's too short, shore horny.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, that's Marvel. That was all Marvel.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Uh Julia Dreyfus, come on, man, Yeah, well it was
iron Heart and then uh a koy a in them
with the with the Iron Man suits as well. It
was kind of cool, and I understand it's from the comics,
but it did feel like a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Like if you want to add like one scene, okay, okay, cool,
you want to add a scene in there, But to
just shoe horn her in the movie, I just felt
like that was something that was not his idea. I
think that was Marvel's idea, was like, hey, we got
to push some stee we gotta push these TV shows
that's coming out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So, and they still haven't even made the Iron Heart show.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
They still have made it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I think they have filmed it now, but I mean
it still took them a long time. Like when did
when did Wakanda Forever come out? James, Like twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, so that's a long time. That's a long time
to set up a character we haven't seen since.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Exactly, and I just thought it was a waste. Julia
Dreyfus served no purpose in that film. The tone was
totally different every time she popped on the screen right,
every time she popped on screen.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right, And they were using her to set up a
Thunderbolts movie. But again, we're just now getting the Thunderbolts movie.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So like he's using Black Panther as a setup and
at the same time trying to give respects to Chad.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
With Bozman, and then he set up Baby Black Panther.
I agree. There was a lot going on in that film,
especially towards the end.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So that's why I know, I don't really pin this
much on him. I don't pin that much on him
because I feel like that was on him. I just
feel like there was more studio involvement. But uh yeah, man,
he doesn't put out them. He doesn't put out a
lot of bad films. He only had five Filmsville Station
was his first film. First film, then Creed was the
second film, and no, I'm sorry, yeah, Creed, then Black Panther,
(02:54):
then then Wakonda Forever and Now and then the other two. Yeah,
the other two crazy kind he produced. Yeah, he has
produced those movies. The second Creed was done by those
I want to say those twin not the twin brother
but one of the twin brothers. No, it was done
by different director. I'm sorry. It wasn't one of the
twin brothers. It was another director, but chat but he
(03:15):
did produce it, Ryan Cooper. And then the third one,
of course, was directed by Michael Jordan. So yeah, he
produced that one too as well. Well, I like about
this film too as well. He signed a deal with
Warner Brothers where after twenty five years it's his film.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, he did he did one of those.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, he did want to hit those things, so they
can't take his film away from his film.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
For twenty five years or he has twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
After twenty five years is completely his and too. He
put up some money on this movie as well of
his own money. I just I just admired Ryan Cooper.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He did this video where he was showing Kodak. It
was a Kodak film and he was shown what movie
to see the format end. Yeah, because for people that
might not know that stuff, it's cool to teaching that,
you know, and I just thought that was so brilliant.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh yeah, that sets him apart from other filmmakers. Is yeah,
I don't know. Whenever a filmmaker really like talks and
plans out the the formatting of the film, like you know,
you know, they care about it. Quentin Tarantino's a big
guy about that, right, because I think I think he
does all his stuff on tape.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Still.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh yeah, it was. It was cool to see, man, like,
you know, you got to watch it, like if you
got you got some time cut out the time to
watch it. It's a Kodak I think Kodak on YouTube
because I'm draped the Kodak Kodak film and you can
tell the guys that's excited and he just once you
watch it, you feel like you're in class. You feel
like in college.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, I have to check that out. That sounds really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, you feel like you're in college. You talk about
the Superade film talks about all these different formats. Yeah,
that way, even the person that does not know anything
about a film, they can enjoy it and like, hey,
I want to see it in this format. Because because
of Ryan Coolan said see it in this different format.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's also good for him because you like, you can
tell he has a passion for these things.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh, he's passionate, man, That's why I love this guy,
him Pel. What's his name, Jordan Piel, Jordan Peel. I
like him too. You know, I wasn't too crazy about Nope,
but I still liked it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I like him too, man.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, he's doing good too. I think he's got another
movie coming out too, or he's producing it. He's producing it.
He hasn't directed anything since Nope, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, he got a movie coming out with Marlon Wayans
and yeah him, yeah, him, And that was the centem
similar con they talked about it. Didn't show anything for it,
but they talked about it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It sounds really cool or interesting. I'd say, I don't
know about cool. It sounds kind of sinister.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, yeah, so it sounds very interesting. And I do
like Marla Wayans in the series roles because he's done
a serious roles before. Oh yeah, but yeah, man, I'm
definitely excited to see sent this. I am so excited.
I am so excited because I know some people were
talking about because hes talking about he said it's Inspirations
where the Thing and John Coffers Thing and from dusk
(06:03):
till dawn.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I can see that entirely, like from the trailer that tracks.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It definitely tracks, you know, they got the brothers and.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The club people are turning yep.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And the kind of takes place probably not can isolate
the spot.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, you don't know, not a lot of sets. Again,
it looks like it looks like kind of like one
or two set pieces, maybe three, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And you don't know who's who, like, oh, man, is
this guy a vampire? I don't know. Yeah, you know,
it's that type of deal. So that also creates that
type of tension too as well. Because I was you
know what, I went back and watched it from dusk
till done. It's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Was that Robert Roriguez.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Robert Rodriguez. It was before he started going crazy with
a lot of his movies. It's two different films. I
don't know if you ever saw it before.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No, I haven't. It doesn't have like two or three
sequels too.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, it has two or three sequels, but that he
didn't do those. But at the time when I was
a kid, when I saw the movie theater, which I
was supposed to my dad took me at that time.
How can I scrap this film? How can I describe
it to a person that has not seen this film?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
There's a vampire movie.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I know that much, but it's very It's so the
first half of the film, because quint Tarantino does He's
the one that wrote the script, and Rob Ertriquez, he's
the one that you know that directed it. You know,
these two brothers, they're killers. One quin Tantino is a
lot more crazy than the other one, as we are,
you know, of course, and it's a lot of disgusting stuff. Man,
(07:26):
it goes on that first half, but there's also a
little bit of a story there, and once you get
an hour into the film, you're thinking, like, man, are
we seeing the same film? And then after that, once
they get to the club, it completely changed on the
axis and it becomes just something totally different. There's a silly,
silly ass vampire film, a silly, horrible visual vampire film.
(07:50):
And it's crazy how that film, that movie goes. And
I don't know how you feel about Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
You know what, I like it stuff. I don't think
I have negative opinions on Quentin Tarantino. I mean his
movies anyway. I don't know about other things he's wrote for.
I've enjoyed his other films.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Okay, So I was talking to somebody about this yesterday
and we both agreed on the same thing. Because he
saw a screening of it when they first came out.
He broke it. He just to write for different films
and stuff like that in the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So he got to see the screen.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
They got to see the screens. And Quentin Tarantino has
this thing where he can't kind of go two of
it too far, and it could be he always has
like that one disgusting scene in each film, and it
was either two or one or two disgusting scenes. And
this one in particularly, he had one scene where from
just till done, they kidnapped this woman that was in
the truck and then they used her as a hostage.
(08:44):
And Quentin Tarantino is his sick dude man, he's talking
to himself. He has he's mentally ill, and he just rapes,
brutally rapes his women and kills him in the room.
And like my homeboy was the guy was telling me.
People were like kind of giggling a little bit at
the scene because it plays itself as trying to be funny,
(09:07):
but it's clearly not funny. And to hear people kind
of giggle a little bit, it's like it is very unselling.
That whole first half of that movie is very unselling.
And they run into this family too with Juliet Lewis,
and she's like supposed to be like sixteen or seventeen
years old, and in his mind he heard, oh, do
(09:27):
you want to eat by? You know what? She never
even said that, And it's just like, man, sometimes Quentin
Tantino has that mind, and he can kind of go
a little bit too far in a lot of stuff
that he does.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Especially those earlier films. I would think I would think
maybe his writing is he has evolved since what was
his ninety six Yeah, in the thirty years hopefully, Yeah,
some of it has.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Some of it hasn't you know, some of it hasn't
age good. I didn't like Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
I liked that film, but I didn't like what he
did with Bruce Lee. I thought that was a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
A lot of people don't like that. Yeah, A lot
of people have problems, but also it's weird because like
Once upon a Time in Hollywood. It's a long movie,
but it also feels like not a lot happens. It's
like by time things kick off, it's the end of
the movie and you're like, oh, that's that's the movie.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, well I just said that because that's exactly how
this movie is. Obviously, Robert Robertie gets took his cue
from Quentin Tarantino. Obviously, you know, they're their friends and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So he took came up together.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, you know, so he took his cue from him.
There's just so much in this film. Man, there's something
there in that first half, but when once you get
to that second half, it's a rough w It's not
rough wats, it's just silly fun. It is really is
something and it is just fun. It was fun time.
It was fun. George Cooley is good in it, by
the way. He's really good. He's really committed to the role.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's just Quentin Tarantino. I think Quentin Tarantino as an
actor is weirder than him as a filmmaker.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Oh yeah, always, I've always thought quent Tetino it was real,
Like would you would you be shocked the vin something
came out by putting Tarantino.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, he's got a huge foot fetish. Yes, and if
you watch it, not that people with foot fetishes are bad.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The foot fetish. And in this movie and from Dell
Sair done the summer height was on the table and
give him a lap dance and he got us. He
got her feet in his mouth.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And all his movies there is a foot directly in
front of the screen at one point.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What's fun Time in Hollywood when old girl got in
the brad Pitt's car.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, got the dirty feet, she got the dirty feet.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, every freaking film like no, you're right everywhere spanishes
all fine, Well, I feel like it's twenty five. It
was a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Different when you put it blatantly in your writing as
much as he does. It's kind of a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's kind of a lot. That's when you kind of
got a problem. So yeah, if you get a chance
to watch it, yo, I don't know what you can
find it on. Probably to me it might not be
your favorite. It might not be your flavor. And if
you can get past that first half. My friend he
did not like that scene at all. Man he did
not like that scene when the woman got raped and
people were giggling in the theater.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, that's a hard scene. I think that's a hard
scene at any time.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh yeah yeah. And it's like, y'all, I'm getting at this.
It's not weird, man.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know it's so I guess what it's on screen.
You can differentiate, like, that's not real life, so it's
you know, that's that's how you can kind of get
around it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, I think if you see the scene set up,
then maybe you probably might understand. I've seen that scene
a million times. I still don't understand. But I feel
like if you like, if you see the scene, then
you probably like, Okay, I kind of get it. I
still don't think it's twenty but yeah, I kind of
get it. But that's Quinn Chantino, man. He always has
that one scene in each film that kind of goes
(12:43):
a little bit too far. Yeah, it's never seen to feel.
He goes right on the edge. And just when you
think he's doing good, he does that one scene where
you're like, god in it, he was doing it so good.
You just did this like the film was getting good,
and then you go a little bit too far Man like,
come on, it's a little distasteful and disgusting. So you
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Speaker 3 (14:01):
Or the time has come to finally review Sinners. Definitely
made some moves over the Easter weekend. Definitely some good
(14:22):
moves for original content and rated R films. I think
it's almost made its money back, so hopefully this next
weekend kind of pushes it over the edge, gets the
money back going. But I don't want to spend too
much time talking this movie up because if you're anywhere
on the internet, you've you've heard about how how great
this movie is doing. So James, I want to I
want to pass it on to you, and I want
to ask you, how did you like Sinners? What did
(14:45):
you think about it? Give me good things, bad things?
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, when I first though, I went to the movie
theaters and saw I went to Regal, it was packed,
really pack, a different broader spectrum of everybody. When just
black and its white, Hispanic, Asian, it was just broad.
It was cool to see a dender CASTI pet just
just the one race. I love the movie. It was
very flushed out, dialogue centric. We knew the vampires went
(15:11):
in the film, but it didn't take away from the
actual film. You know, you know how we talked about
from us, so Don it's pretty much the same. It's
kind of it's kind of the same.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
As that, it's very similar.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yes, it's similar in as far as two brothers in
the club and the vampires, and it taken place in
the secluded area, and that's pretty much when the similarity
start stop it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
For me, everything else is just a complete original story.
I like the music. The musical is also dope in there. Honestly,
the vampire stuff I really didn't care for that. I mean,
the vampire stuff was cool, but you were still to
throw out with the first half of the story and
the whole story that you really didn't care about the
vampires that much.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You're right, they almost took a back seat to their
own movie.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
H So yeah, I love the music for this film though.
Music is why I take away. Michael Jordan was great
for him to be able to play too roles and
still be the same person. And you know, he doesn't
have a will twin, a real twin in real life,
but he played the role so well that didn't even
think that maybe, okay, maybe he is playing maybe he
(16:15):
does have a twin because he does a good job.
But the fitch rated too.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I saw an interview or I read an interview where
he was saying on set, whenever he was filming as
one twin or the other, he would interact with the
cast differently when they weren't filming. When he was playing
the one brother who was closer to Hailey Stiffel's character,
he would talk to her more off offset when he
was playing him, but then when he was playing the
other brother, he was a little bit more guarded and
(16:40):
stand offish because of the two personalities.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yep, yep, that's true. That's true, And like I said,
he does a good job of separating the two. It's
a movie that came out All to Nights with Robert
de Niro where you played two characters and you know,
two twins, and that movie could have been more born.
He really couldn't tell difference between you two. And I
love Rob de narrow, but that movie was born as
hell and the box office showed, so, you know, I
(17:07):
hate that he worked his butt off to play two
roles of a characters they're that. I mean you could
tell the difference. I mean you could usually tell us
like both of you guys are old. I see nothing.
So for Michael B. Jordan to do that was just amazing.
Harley Steinfeld is great. I like that all the casts
played a part in the movie. Derroy Lindo, who, for
some reason, Delroy Lindo is an underrated old man in Hollywood,
(17:30):
and that man never gets the credit he deserves anything.
That Yeah, man, I love Derroy. Derroy is great. He's
always a solid, solid actor. He's always been. He should
have got an Oscar. Now for the fire Bloods that
was on a Spike Lee movie that came out in Netflix.
He should have got an Oscar not and should have
got a Best Supporting Actor a long time ago. Yeah. Man,
(17:51):
this movie is just amazing from start to finish. I
don't really have any many critiques other than, like I said,
the vampire stuff is pretty generic, uh, you know, as
usual vampire stuff. Like I said, I feel like that
was just something sprinkled and you didn't even need it
because that's how good the film was. That's not a
review for it. I give it a test tho I
gave it for not not out of ten.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Nine out of ten is what you give it?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, we give it not out of ten? All right?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, you know what, I I agree mostly across the
board with you. It was very good film. I you
know why, Honestly, James, I did not notice the music
because I was so enthralled with the story. I really didn't.
I really didn't pick up on like music or like
what they what the soundtrack was. So I mean I'm
glad you did, because I honestly I couldn't name a
song that was featured in this.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well it wasn't well, it wasn't anything that was really
featured it was just the blending of jazz, country, fights music,
Irish music, Irish music, h you know, Irish and Scottish
music that that blend. And also Ryan Coopland said he
got some inspirations from Metallica as well with the guitar
riffs that were in there at two double guitar riffs.
(19:00):
They were also in the music to Day. He said
he got the from Jell.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I take it back. That was very silly to me
to say that I didn't notice the music because much
of the plot is centered around the music. The music
presented in the movie itself was very good because it
was plot centric. I was thinking like soundtrack. I was
thinking like, oh, there's stuff I missed in the background.
But it's been a morning again. I agree with you.
(19:24):
I think it was a great film. The story was great.
I think Ryan Cooler Coogler and Michael B. Jordan did
an excellent job of making this world fil lived in
more so where it's like there's so much lore and
background and other things presented in this movie besides the
main plot that really make it feel like these characters
have a live off screen before you meet them. I
(19:47):
guess it's kind of weird to state that, because all
films should feel like that. But you know, some more
generic movies just kind of feel like what you're watching
is what you're getting. But this movie does a great
job of making you who kind of feel like there's
more to these characters before and after this film. He
does a good job of world building without actually showing
(20:08):
you know what they're building.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, he definitely does a good job a day. I
think I feel like all his movies that he does
a good job of world building for the most part.
It's hard to believe he's only did five films.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I know, his filmography is so small, but it's so
packed with with like hits.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I didn't think about it beforehand, but a Radar movie
coming out Easter weekend called Centers is a huge gamble
in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So the fact that it that it's done so well
and it's making like a good amount of money is phenomenal.
It's great. I'm so glad to see an original movie
make money off off of, you know, premiering in the theaters.
When we talked about it before, original content is kind
of struggling where, you know, if if movies aren't making
the money back fast enough. They're already ripped, They're already
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ripped down and put on streaming before you know it.
But it kind of seems like this is going to
stick around for a while. And I've seen reports saying
how like Ryan Kogler's deal with Warner Brothers is bad,
But honestly it's not. That's a fluff piece because directors
have done this years before, right They they write and
direct the movie that they that they own that it's
it's their ip, and they sell it to the movie
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the movie studios for however many years. I mean, it's
it's been done before. It's not anything new.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And we talked about this, Yeah, we talked about this
last week. Said the first directed that owned his things
on this movement after is done after twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
What I'm curious about, James, is one of I mean,
obviously Warner Brothers is making some movie off of this.
There's potentially a sequel around the corner. Do you want
to see a sequel? Do you do you want to
see more of this world?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What do you want to see it for the future
of this franchise, If you want to see a future
at all, well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I haven't really looked ahead that much into it like that,
you know, because I'm still really over this over his
one movie. So it's kind of hard to say if
he's if he's attached to it, I have no problem
to have no problem with our rejection to him, and
m could be attached to it. I feel very good
about it, you know, Like I said, I don't aready
have like a too much of a pain about it
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because I'm thinking, said, I'm still kind of real enough
just seeing this movie.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's understandable. There's a lot to think about. I'm still
thinking about this movie as well, plot wise.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I'm pretty I'm pretty sure gonna watch it again.
I'm definitely gonna watch it again eventually. It was just
that good.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's not really like an action packed movie. It's it's
more story driven than anything. And then when the action happens,
it's it's real quick. It's it's like you said, it's
kind of like dut dust till Dawn, right, It's a
slow burn until the third act and that's when everything
kicks off, and then it just kind of ends quickly
after that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But the only difference between that and different dust Till
Down from Dust Till Done was just totally totally two
different films, right, and it flipped at a rate that
you wasn't ready for. With this, it was a slow
burn and it hit is like, oh okay, it's vampires.
But it didn't deviate or it didn't feel like it
was taking something away or you just feel like you
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just watching and totally to contract two totally different films
from Dusk to the Dme was just ridiculous in its
approach because it away from being this disgusting criminal movie
to this B level, C level vampire film filed of
just erotic themes, and it just flipped on the axis
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a you was taking somewhere where you were just like
I was on my ALM was on a version of
leaving now I'm staying because I wanted to laugh at how.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Stupid this looks. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, So that's the only difference I would saying between
those between those two things, with this movie, it goes,
it blends itself perfectly. It didn't take it doesn't take
a speed bump. It goes smoothly into the transition.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
My opinion on seeing like a future of this franchise
is I don't really want this to be franchised in
a way like I really would love to, just like, hey,
this movie comes out, it's singular. We don't have to
worry about a TV series or like following up or
anything like that. However, I do feel like if they
do want to continue the storyline, I think there is
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a great prequel with the two brothers. You bring Michael B.
Jordan back as the brothers again, because they talk about
this isn't even a spoiler thing, but like they mentioned
Chicago they come from. They come home from Chicago to
Mississippi to start a juke joint, and they keep talking
about Chicago throughout this movie, and it alludes to how
they got money or like how they did certain things
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that I think there would be a great movie there
as a prequel. It would be a different genre, right,
it wouldn't be like a horror movie. But I don't
think it's a bad thing. I don't think you need
to I don't think you need to keep horror in
this world that like Ryan Coogler has created. I think
he's he's he's set it up to where you can
go in a couple different directions if you want to
continue it, or if you want to do a prequel.
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There's material there to work with, So I'd love to
see a heist movie again with Michael B. Jordan coming
back as Smoke and Stack the two brothers, because again,
again he did a phenomenal job. Both those characters are great.
Both those character were totally fleshed out. They felt like
individual characters even though you're watching the same actor play them.
There's just enough mystery and intrigue there to like where
I would want to see another movie with them. I
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don't really want to see a sequel per se. I
don't need to see a sequel about what happens to
the characters after this movie. I think the prequel to
this is a lot more interesting than anything that could
come afterwards. And even then, you could still use the
prequel to set up the vampires for this original movie
The Sinners, if you wanted to. But I'm not here
to speculate entirely on what Ryan Cooler is going to do.
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That's just my two cents, because obviously, if he makes
enough money back Warner Brothers does have it for twenty
five years, they will probably want to do a sequel
or a TV series, maybe a two series, right because
that seems to be the more justification on whether a
franchise is successful these days is if they get a
spinoff series versus a sequel movie. But whatever they decide
to do, hopefully they keep Ryan Coogler involved, because again,
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phenomenal film.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Also to the actor that plays Sammy, who is the
heart of the film, who's actually the heart the main character? Yeah,
he's actually the main character. You know, Michael Jordan's on
the headlines and the posters list the actor that plays Sammy.
He's the one. Yeah, he's the one that played it
most important part.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You kind of see it through his eyes. I think
the whole story you you kind of see through his
eyes more than more so than Michael B.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Jordan.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Michael B. Jordan's there for the name Sammy is the
guy who plays Sammy, which I should look him up,
should stop calling him the guy who plays Sammy. Miles
Miles Caton Katon is his name.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He was great. Yeah, yeah, he was a great.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Film, great, great star of the show. I mean he
he's pretty much the like the integral piece of the movie.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yep, he is.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
He's an aspiring blues player. And so the two brothers
smoking Stack go to pick him up to play at
their their juke joint that they're setting up for the night.
So he really is like the heart and soul and
like middle piece of this film. Without Sammy as a character,
you don't really have the same movie at all.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
You really don't. The only thing that you have is
maybe like a twist at the end because you know
this he spoil some of it, but you know it's
a twist at the end that you know turns around.
So that's the only thing that's really in there that's
for really smoke instead. Everything else is a lot about sam.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It's really it's his story. Not not to spoil too much,
but you could almost do a sequel about him as well.
So again that goes back to how much lore and
world building there has been done in this film to
create a lived in feeling world. Well, what else can
we say about this movie?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
James?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
What else did You didn't have any kind of negative feelings,
Like there was nothing that was like, oh I wish
they would have done this better. I wish they would
have did this instead of that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
No, not really, Like I said, the only thing I
really was just critiqueous made with the vampire stuff. The
vampire stuff was just.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Kind of middle of the road.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, middle of the road, same vampire stuff We've always seen.
Nothing really any different.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
They do try to create a little bit of lore
with it, because there's exposition at the beginning of this film,
and it's right at the top, so it's not like
anything you would miss ordinarily, but it's kind of exposition
on Hey, I think blues blues music specifically, like if
you play it really good, it can attract like the
devil essentially, is the layman terms of what the exposition said, like, hey,
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like bluece music is so powerful that it can attract
good and evil and sometimes you gotta be careful. That
kind of sets up the premise or the reasoning as
to why the vampires show up, because they really do
just kind of come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
They do. They do it when it comes on the scene,
It just pops out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, I don't I don't have too many negatives. There's
like one or two things to where I think at
some point in the film, you it seems like they're
going to introduce like a group of people hunting down
the vampires and then they just kind of like leave.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know, I know what thing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
So I don't know what happened there, and again this
could this could just be kind of like a door
left open for if you want to continue a story
you that's another avenue you can go. That's another spin
off or a TV series you can choose to do.
There's so many different bits and pieces that you could
really spin off with this if you want to. And
I don't want to keep going back to that. I'm
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just like, off the top of my head, that's another
thing you could do if if Warner Brothers Ryan Coogler wanted.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
To do it is true, which I could see. I
don't think it see. This could definitely Warner Brother's version
of Blake. Maybe, oh man, what to do? Maybe maybe not?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Maybe let's back it up, James, Let's.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's you never know, do we? Well?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know what, if Warner Brothers can pull off Blade
before Marvel can, that'll be.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I mean the pretty much did it pretty much did.
But this movie came out twelve Blade it was even made,
because I remember when this movie was announced. This movie
was announced two years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, two years ago, I think, and I think in
total he's been working on it for like four or
five years.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, it's been in the work, so I remember when
this was going down a pipeline.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
It has made fifty five million domestically, and it looks
like it's going to do seventy five million globally. This
is also the first like full week it's been out,
so I'm assuming it's gonna start it's gonna do much
more than that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think it's gonna do much more than it.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, the opening weekend it made forty eight million so far,
that's just opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, Variety, they they hate, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I saw something about that.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's kind of it's one.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Of those scummy things that they're doing just to get
like clicks, right, Like you write a crappy article about
a movie that's doing successful and you get like the
hate clicks and you get the hate shares.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And it's trash. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I think it's one of those like reverse psychology things.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's trash. It's complete trade. And like I said, this,
this movie was amazing. I'm glad to see her. Everyone
everyone's enjoying it. Happy for Warner Realers because they definitely
needed this, you know, with success of Minecraft and Centers,
you know, so they definitely need this. They definitely definitely
need this.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
By the way, did you know Hailey Stifel was like
one twelfth or whatever black, Like that's a.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Real Yeah, Yeah, that's real. Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That was an interesting learn I I thought they just
like did it for the movie, and I was like,
all right, that's kind of weird. And then a coworker
of mine was actually telling me how no, Yeah, like
her great grandfather or her grandfather is black, so she,
you know, genetically, she's got some blackness center and like
this was kind of a movie where she caught the
I guess learn about some of her roots. She was saying,
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good for any stide film, My good, good experience for her.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
To sea was great. I love watching her egg all
these guys. Like I totally enjoyed the film. I will
see it again.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
This movie had like a lot more sex than I
thought was gonna be in it.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh, definitely a lot of sex.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Very sexual. There's like three or four sex scenes. I
am not exaggerating. There's like three or four like sex
scenes in this film.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So you're a kid that took your mom and I
once see this movie and you brought your mom and
your dad definitely a screamishing the scream machine your seat
when you saw it, we saw a covidose scenes.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
One real negative I can draw from this film, James,
is the fact that the trailers, not the first trailer,
because the first trailer was a great teaser, but the
subsequent trailers very spoilerly. I was trying to play myself
while watching the movie. I was trying to be like, well,
maybe maybe it's gonna explain that, like, you know, this
character who they show in the trailer is a vampire.
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Maybe they've been a vampire the whole time. Maybe they'll
get you know, I'm trying to like second guess myself
so I can be a little bit surprised. But there
there's like two or three spoilers in the trailer that
really kind of messed it up for the movie.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's marketing, you know, marketing did that. Yeah, I'm pretty
sure Wyan Cooler had his way, he probably would never
showed that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Sometimes they don't get the decision right because you send,
you send your movie to like a trailer house, and
then they just cut a trailer and what you get
is what you get. Like Kingsman two had that problem, right,
Kingsman two callin first character came back from the dead
and it was supposed to be Yeah, it was supposed
to be a big surprise, and then the trailer is like, hey,
he's back and a couple other things are going on,
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and yeah, I remember the director for Kingsman was like
really upset about it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
A lot of times they do that because they trying
to get the word out, so they wait, drum up
more anticipation for the film. But what they don't know
is the more vague that you could have filmed, and
long as you saw, as long as you showed the
trailer off, the people will see it. The more vague
it is, the more surprises that it's a store for me.
And then word of mouth turns out it's like, oh,
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I mean, I gotta see this movie because I didn't
think this, you know, stuff like Barbarian.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Like in Barbarian, Oh yeah, Barbarian is totally different from
what you see in the trailer.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It was a vague and this new movie is coming
out weapons, you got this move weapons coming out him
even him, Jordan Peel, Marlon Wayans and stuff. So I'm like,
if you do that, take for example, Superman, I know
everyone wants to see another trailer for Superman, and I
know everyone's being very bullish on trying to spoil it
as much as they possible can. We don't really need
another trailer for Superman. You're because you're going to watch
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the movie regardless. Anyway, they really got to stop doing it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
They either got to stop doing it or just start
making shorter trailers, because trailers are now like two or
three minutes long. Sometimes it's like, just like, just make
short teasers, a series of short teasers that just generate
enough interest to get the people in the movie, Like
don't don't give us the entire plot in two minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And you can't help but see it. Doesn't spoil I
mean you can help us see it because you got
to move there and watch them and watch a certain film.
So you go, you're going to get sport regardless. No,
unless you go, unless you go in there like ten
minutes before the movies though before the movie starts, or
or five of the movie starts.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But sometimes that's hard to gauge too, James, because the
movie theaters don't always play the movies on time. And
I know, I know and understand why, but yeah, sometimes
it's hard to even like dodge the trailers. If you
were trying to do that, you try to show up
five minutes late, and then it's still in the trailers.
So it just kind of depends on how how far
are you willing to go out of your way to
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avoid spoiler trailers?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You know, Yeah, yeah, no, you're right right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's kind of all my thoughts on Sinners Again, a
phenomenal movie. Loved it, enjoyed it. I'm very glad I
went to the theaters to see it. You know, I
don't go to the theaters often too much anymore, but
when I do, Like, I think the last few movies
movies I've seen have been like top tier theater movies,
So that's always great. Looking forward to seeing what happens
with this franchise, if anything happens at all, I don't
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think it necessarily does. I would definitely be interested in
seeing a Smoke and Stack prequel. I think that's your
biggest that could be your biggest thing right there, if
they were to do it. But that's that's later down
the road. Yeah, I mean, hey, that's that's all I got.
That's all you got.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, I'll do one point up this one quick point.
This is a little article about the oscars. Now. They
said they're going to start because hey, it's a bit
that we do that. We didn't know this, but they're
going to start watching all the films.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I saw that when someone was like, you haven't been
doing that already.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So it's like, so all this time, your mother been
doing it for years and just been just putting mows
on the ballot just because they know we're busy and
the popularity.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, well, you know, movie studios are going to start
looking at like influencers, I guess for casting, like they're
going to start looking at people's follower Yeah, I saw.
I mean, do you know what we've always known it's
a popularity contest, and I think it's every day or
like every other mon we're learning more and more about
how much of a popularity contest it is versus how
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good a product is.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
That man she is? Do you think Sinners will get nominated?
If anything?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You know what, that's hard to say because for one,
it's a horror film. It's also an original story. But
that might help it because don't they have like an
original like category of some.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Sort originally, yeah, mis original, adaptive, screenplate.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I could see it doing that. I don't. I don't
know if it would get nominated for any other Oscar
it should, I mean, if anything, Michael B. Jordan should
get something or at least a nomination for his acting.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Or at least deep nominated for Best Adaptive Screenplay.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
No, for sure that one.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, I mean, come on, man, our music a musical category.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Not a musical inspiration. Cinematography was really good. That could yeah,
that could. That could warrant something.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Costume designs, so we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I mean, look, this is I think by the time
this comes out, this is the first full week that
it's been out, so obviously movie theater runs can range
from like two weeks to six months. So well, we'll
see how much more money it generates over its run time.
And this is a good success for Ryan Coogler. Now,
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not like he hasn't had successes, but this is another
success for Ryan Cougler, And that's the more important part
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My boner. I'm looking forward to seeing Sandwich this weekend.
I'm really really anxious to see this Ryan Coole's work.
I'm prior to us. I'm telling everybody, man, support this guy. Man.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm hearing so many good things about this movie, like
so many early reviews, just like across the board, like
phenomenal film, which is great, but it's also kind of
scary because you hype yourself up and then you have
higher expectations.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, but it's you know, if it was anybody else,
I probably would say I agree with you. But is
Ryan Cooglist, So I have a little bit more hope.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
He does have a good track record.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, this is his project. There's no studio hands getting
involved like you did with a Black Panther, Like, there's
no studio hands with that kind of Ever, was the
only movie that I did not like?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, that was It was basically a eulogy, right, It
was a eulogy movie for Chadwick Boseman.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It was a eulogy film and also as well as
studio heads, studio hands got involved. You can'tnot make them
believe that he wanted to put an iron Heart this movie.
I know he had no plans on doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's that's too short, shore horny.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, that's Marvel. That was all Marvel.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Uh Julia Dreyfus, come on, man, Yeah, well it was
iron Heart and then uh a koy a in them
with the with the Iron Man suits as well. It
was kind of cool, and I understand it's from the comics,
but it did feel like a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Like if you want to add like one scene, okay, okay, cool,
you want to add a scene in there, But to
just shoe horn her in the movie, I just felt
like that was something that was not his idea. I
think that was Marvel's idea, was like, hey, we got
to push some stee we gotta push these TV shows
that's coming out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So, and they still haven't even made the Iron Heart show.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
They still have made it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I think they have filmed it now, but I mean
it still took them a long time. Like when did
when did Wakanda Forever come out? James, Like twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, so that's a long time. That's a long time
to set up a character we haven't seen since.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Exactly, and I just thought it was a waste. Julia
Dreyfus served no purpose in that film. The tone was
totally different every time she popped on the screen right,
every time she popped on screen.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right, And they were using her to set up a
Thunderbolts movie. But again, we're just now getting the Thunderbolts movie.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So like he's using Black Panther as a setup and
at the same time trying to give respects to Chad.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
With Bozman, and then he set up Baby Black Panther.
I agree. There was a lot going on in that film,
especially towards the end.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So that's why I know, I don't really pin this
much on him. I don't pin that much on him
because I feel like that was on him. I just
feel like there was more studio involvement. But uh yeah, man,
he doesn't put out them. He doesn't put out a
lot of bad films. He only had five Filmsville Station
was his first film. First film, then Creed was the
second film, and no, I'm sorry, yeah, Creed, then Black Panther,
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then then Wakonda Forever and Now and then the other two. Yeah,
the other two crazy kind he produced. Yeah, he has
produced those movies. The second Creed was done by those
I want to say those twin not the twin brother
but one of the twin brothers. No, it was done
by different director. I'm sorry. It wasn't one of the
twin brothers. It was another director, but chat but he
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did produce it, Ryan Cooper. And then the third one,
of course, was directed by Michael Jordan. So yeah, he
produced that one too as well. Well, I like about
this film too as well. He signed a deal with
Warner Brothers where after twenty five years it's his film.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, he did he did one of those.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, he did want to hit those things, so they
can't take his film away from his film.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
For twenty five years or he has twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
After twenty five years is completely his and too. He
put up some money on this movie as well of
his own money. I just I just admired Ryan Cooper.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He did this video where he was showing Kodak. It
was a Kodak film and he was shown what movie
to see the format end. Yeah, because for people that
might not know that stuff, it's cool to teaching that,
you know, and I just thought that was so brilliant.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Oh yeah, that sets him apart from other filmmakers. Is yeah,
I don't know. Whenever a filmmaker really like talks and
plans out the the formatting of the film, like you know,
you know, they care about it. Quentin Tarantino's a big
guy about that, right, because I think I think he
does all his stuff on tape.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Still.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh yeah, it was. It was cool to see, man, like,
you know, you got to watch it, like if you
got you got some time cut out the time to
watch it. It's a Kodak I think Kodak on YouTube
because I'm draped the Kodak Kodak film and you can
tell the guys that's excited and he just once you
watch it, you feel like you're in class. You feel
like in college.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, I have to check that out. That sounds really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, you feel like you're in college. You talk about
the Superade film talks about all these different formats. Yeah,
that way, even the person that does not know anything
about a film, they can enjoy it and like, hey,
I want to see it in this format. Because because
of Ryan Coolan said see it in this different format.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's also good for him because you like, you can
tell he has a passion for these things.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh, he's passionate, man, That's why I love this guy,
him Pel. What's his name, Jordan Piel, Jordan Peel. I
like him too. You know, I wasn't too crazy about Nope,
but I still liked it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I like him too, man.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, he's doing good too. I think he's got another
movie coming out too, or he's producing it. He's producing it.
He hasn't directed anything since Nope, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, he got a movie coming out with Marlon Wayans
and yeah him, yeah, him, And that was the centem
similar con they talked about it. Didn't show anything for it,
but they talked about it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It sounds really cool or interesting. I'd say, I don't
know about cool. It sounds kind of sinister.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, yeah, so it sounds very interesting. And I do
like Marla Wayans in the series roles because he's done
a serious roles before. Oh yeah, but yeah, man, I'm
definitely excited to see sent this. I am so excited.
I am so excited because I know some people were
talking about because hes talking about he said it's Inspirations
where the Thing and John Coffers Thing and from dusk
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till dawn.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I can see that entirely, like from the trailer that tracks.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It definitely tracks, you know, they got the brothers and.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The club people are turning yep.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And the kind of takes place probably not can isolate
the spot.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, you don't know, not a lot of sets. Again,
it looks like it looks like kind of like one
or two set pieces, maybe three, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And you don't know who's who, like, oh, man, is
this guy a vampire? I don't know. Yeah, you know,
it's that type of deal. So that also creates that
type of tension too as well. Because I was you
know what, I went back and watched it from dusk
till done. It's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Was that Robert Roriguez.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Robert Rodriguez. It was before he started going crazy with
a lot of his movies. It's two different films. I
don't know if you ever saw it before.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No, I haven't. It doesn't have like two or three
sequels too.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, it has two or three sequels, but that he
didn't do those. But at the time when I was
a kid, when I saw the movie theater, which I
was supposed to my dad took me at that time.
How can I scrap this film? How can I describe
it to a person that has not seen this film?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
There's a vampire movie.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I know that much, but it's very It's so the
first half of the film, because quint Tarantino does He's
the one that wrote the script, and Rob Ertriquez, he's
the one that you know that directed it. You know,
these two brothers, they're killers. One quin Tantino is a
lot more crazy than the other one, as we are,
you know, of course, and it's a lot of disgusting stuff. Man,
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it goes on that first half, but there's also a
little bit of a story there, and once you get
an hour into the film, you're thinking, like, man, are
we seeing the same film? And then after that, once
they get to the club, it completely changed on the
axis and it becomes just something totally different. There's a silly,
silly ass vampire film, a silly, horrible visual vampire film.
(07:50):
And it's crazy how that film, that movie goes. And
I don't know how you feel about Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
You know what, I like it stuff. I don't think
I have negative opinions on Quentin Tarantino. I mean his
movies anyway. I don't know about other things he's wrote for.
I've enjoyed his other films.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Okay, So I was talking to somebody about this yesterday
and we both agreed on the same thing. Because he
saw a screening of it when they first came out.
He broke it. He just to write for different films
and stuff like that in the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So he got to see the screen.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
They got to see the screens. And Quentin Tarantino has
this thing where he can't kind of go two of
it too far, and it could be he always has
like that one disgusting scene in each film, and it
was either two or one or two disgusting scenes. And
this one in particularly, he had one scene where from
just till done, they kidnapped this woman that was in
the truck and then they used her as a hostage.
(08:44):
And Quentin Tarantino is his sick dude man, he's talking
to himself. He has he's mentally ill, and he just rapes,
brutally rapes his women and kills him in the room.
And like my homeboy was the guy was telling me.
People were like kind of giggling a little bit at
the scene because it plays itself as trying to be funny,
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but it's clearly not funny. And to hear people kind
of giggle a little bit, it's like it is very unselling.
That whole first half of that movie is very unselling.
And they run into this family too with Juliet Lewis,
and she's like supposed to be like sixteen or seventeen
years old, and in his mind he heard, oh, do
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you want to eat by? You know what? She never
even said that, And it's just like, man, sometimes Quentin
Tantino has that mind, and he can kind of go
a little bit too far in a lot of stuff
that he does.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Especially those earlier films. I would think I would think
maybe his writing is he has evolved since what was
his ninety six Yeah, in the thirty years hopefully, Yeah,
some of it has.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Some of it hasn't you know, some of it hasn't
age good. I didn't like Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
I liked that film, but I didn't like what he
did with Bruce Lee. I thought that was a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
A lot of people don't like that. Yeah, A lot
of people have problems, but also it's weird because like
Once upon a Time in Hollywood. It's a long movie,
but it also feels like not a lot happens. It's
like by time things kick off, it's the end of
the movie and you're like, oh, that's that's the movie.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, well I just said that because that's exactly how
this movie is. Obviously, Robert Robertie gets took his cue
from Quentin Tarantino. Obviously, you know, they're their friends and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So he took came up together.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, you know, so he took his cue from him.
There's just so much in this film. Man, there's something
there in that first half, but when once you get
to that second half, it's a rough w It's not
rough wats, it's just silly fun. It is really is
something and it is just fun. It was fun time.
It was fun. George Cooley is good in it, by
the way. He's really good. He's really committed to the role.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's just Quentin Tarantino. I think Quentin Tarantino as an
actor is weirder than him as a filmmaker.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Oh yeah, always, I've always thought quent Tetino it was real,
Like would you would you be shocked the vin something
came out by putting Tarantino.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, he's got a huge foot fetish. Yes, and if
you watch it, not that people with foot fetishes are bad.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The foot fetish. And in this movie and from Dell
Sair done the summer height was on the table and
give him a lap dance and he got us. He
got her feet in his mouth.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And all his movies there is a foot directly in
front of the screen at one point.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What's fun Time in Hollywood when old girl got in
the brad Pitt's car.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, got the dirty feet, she got the dirty feet.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, every freaking film like no, you're right everywhere spanishes
all fine, Well, I feel like it's twenty five. It
was a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Different when you put it blatantly in your writing as
much as he does. It's kind of a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's kind of a lot. That's when you kind of
got a problem. So yeah, if you get a chance
to watch it, yo, I don't know what you can
find it on. Probably to me it might not be
your favorite. It might not be your flavor. And if
you can get past that first half. My friend he
did not like that scene at all. Man he did
not like that scene when the woman got raped and
people were giggling in the theater.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, that's a hard scene. I think that's a hard
scene at any time.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh yeah yeah. And it's like, y'all, I'm getting at this.
It's not weird, man.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You know it's so I guess what it's on screen.
You can differentiate, like, that's not real life, so it's
you know, that's that's how you can kind of get
around it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, I think if you see the scene set up,
then maybe you probably might understand. I've seen that scene
a million times. I still don't understand. But I feel
like if you like, if you see the scene, then
you probably like, Okay, I kind of get it. I
still don't think it's twenty but yeah, I kind of
get it. But that's Quinn Chantino, man. He always has
that one scene in each film that kind of goes
(12:43):
a little bit too far. Yeah, it's never seen to feel.
He goes right on the edge. And just when you
think he's doing good, he does that one scene where
you're like, god in it, he was doing it so good.
You just did this like the film was getting good,
and then you go a little bit too far Man like,
come on, it's a little distasteful and disgusting. So you
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Speaker 3 (14:01):
Or the time has come to finally review Sinners. Definitely
made some moves over the Easter weekend. Definitely some good
(14:22):
moves for original content and rated R films. I think
it's almost made its money back, so hopefully this next
weekend kind of pushes it over the edge, gets the
money back going. But I don't want to spend too
much time talking this movie up because if you're anywhere
on the internet, you've you've heard about how how great
this movie is doing. So James, I want to I
want to pass it on to you, and I want
to ask you, how did you like Sinners? What did
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you think about it? Give me good things, bad things?
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, when I first though, I went to the movie
theaters and saw I went to Regal, it was packed,
really pack, a different broader spectrum of everybody. When just
black and its white, Hispanic, Asian, it was just broad.
It was cool to see a dender CASTI pet just
just the one race. I love the movie. It was
very flushed out, dialogue centric. We knew the vampires went
(15:11):
in the film, but it didn't take away from the
actual film. You know, you know how we talked about
from us, so Don it's pretty much the same. It's
kind of it's kind of the same.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
As that, it's very similar.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yes, it's similar in as far as two brothers in
the club and the vampires, and it taken place in
the secluded area, and that's pretty much when the similarity
start stop it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
For me, everything else is just a complete original story.
I like the music. The musical is also dope in there. Honestly,
the vampire stuff I really didn't care for that. I mean,
the vampire stuff was cool, but you were still to
throw out with the first half of the story and
the whole story that you really didn't care about the
vampires that much.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You're right, they almost took a back seat to their
own movie.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
H So yeah, I love the music for this film though.
Music is why I take away. Michael Jordan was great
for him to be able to play too roles and
still be the same person. And you know, he doesn't
have a will twin, a real twin in real life,
but he played the role so well that didn't even
think that maybe, okay, maybe he is playing maybe he
(16:15):
does have a twin because he does a good job.
But the fitch rated too.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I saw an interview or I read an interview where
he was saying on set, whenever he was filming as
one twin or the other, he would interact with the
cast differently when they weren't filming. When he was playing
the one brother who was closer to Hailey Stiffel's character,
he would talk to her more off offset when he
was playing him, but then when he was playing the
other brother, he was a little bit more guarded and
(16:40):
stand offish because of the two personalities.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yep, yep, that's true. That's true, And like I said,
he does a good job of separating the two. It's
a movie that came out All to Nights with Robert
de Niro where you played two characters and you know,
two twins, and that movie could have been more born.
He really couldn't tell difference between you two. And I
love Rob de narrow, but that movie was born as
hell and the box office showed, so, you know, I
(17:07):
hate that he worked his butt off to play two
roles of a characters they're that. I mean you could
tell the difference. I mean you could usually tell us
like both of you guys are old. I see nothing.
So for Michael B. Jordan to do that was just amazing.
Harley Steinfeld is great. I like that all the casts
played a part in the movie. Derroy Lindo, who, for
some reason, Delroy Lindo is an underrated old man in Hollywood,
(17:30):
and that man never gets the credit he deserves anything.
That Yeah, man, I love Derroy. Derroy is great. He's
always a solid, solid actor. He's always been. He should
have got an Oscar. Now for the fire Bloods that
was on a Spike Lee movie that came out in Netflix.
He should have got an Oscar not and should have
got a Best Supporting Actor a long time ago. Yeah. Man,
(17:51):
this movie is just amazing from start to finish. I
don't really have any many critiques other than, like I said,
the vampire stuff is pretty generic, uh, you know, as
usual vampire stuff. Like I said, I feel like that
was just something sprinkled and you didn't even need it
because that's how good the film was. That's not a
review for it. I give it a test tho I
gave it for not not out of ten.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Nine out of ten is what you give it?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, we give it not out of ten? All right?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, you know what, I I agree mostly across the
board with you. It was very good film. I you
know why, Honestly, James, I did not notice the music
because I was so enthralled with the story. I really didn't.
I really didn't pick up on like music or like
what they what the soundtrack was. So I mean I'm
glad you did, because I honestly I couldn't name a
song that was featured in this.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well it wasn't well, it wasn't anything that was really
featured it was just the blending of jazz, country, fights music,
Irish music, Irish music, h you know, Irish and Scottish
music that that blend. And also Ryan Coopland said he
got some inspirations from Metallica as well with the guitar
riffs that were in there at two double guitar riffs.
(19:00):
They were also in the music to Day. He said
he got the from Jell.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I take it back. That was very silly to me
to say that I didn't notice the music because much
of the plot is centered around the music. The music
presented in the movie itself was very good because it
was plot centric. I was thinking like soundtrack. I was
thinking like, oh, there's stuff I missed in the background.
But it's been a morning again. I agree with you.
(19:24):
I think it was a great film. The story was great.
I think Ryan Cooler Coogler and Michael B. Jordan did
an excellent job of making this world fil lived in
more so where it's like there's so much lore and
background and other things presented in this movie besides the
main plot that really make it feel like these characters
have a live off screen before you meet them. I
(19:47):
guess it's kind of weird to state that, because all
films should feel like that. But you know, some more
generic movies just kind of feel like what you're watching
is what you're getting. But this movie does a great
job of making you who kind of feel like there's
more to these characters before and after this film. He
does a good job of world building without actually showing
(20:08):
you know what they're building.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, he definitely does a good job a day. I
think I feel like all his movies that he does
a good job of world building for the most part.
It's hard to believe he's only did five films.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I know, his filmography is so small, but it's so
packed with with like hits.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I didn't think about it beforehand, but a Radar movie
coming out Easter weekend called Centers is a huge gamble
in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So the fact that it that it's done so well
and it's making like a good amount of money is phenomenal.
It's great. I'm so glad to see an original movie
make money off off of, you know, premiering in the theaters.
When we talked about it before, original content is kind
of struggling where, you know, if if movies aren't making
the money back fast enough. They're already ripped, They're already
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ripped down and put on streaming before you know it.
But it kind of seems like this is going to
stick around for a while. And I've seen reports saying
how like Ryan Kogler's deal with Warner Brothers is bad,
But honestly it's not. That's a fluff piece because directors
have done this years before, right They they write and
direct the movie that they that they own that it's
it's their ip, and they sell it to the movie
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the movie studios for however many years. I mean, it's
it's been done before. It's not anything new.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And we talked about this, Yeah, we talked about this
last week. Said the first directed that owned his things
on this movement after is done after twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
What I'm curious about, James, is one of I mean,
obviously Warner Brothers is making some movie off of this.
There's potentially a sequel around the corner. Do you want
to see a sequel? Do you do you want to
see more of this world?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
What do you want to see it for the future
of this franchise, If you want to see a future
at all, well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I haven't really looked ahead that much into it like that,
you know, because I'm still really over this over his
one movie. So it's kind of hard to say if
he's if he's attached to it, I have no problem
to have no problem with our rejection to him, and
m could be attached to it. I feel very good
about it, you know, Like I said, I don't aready
have like a too much of a pain about it
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because I'm thinking, said, I'm still kind of real enough
just seeing this movie.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's understandable. There's a lot to think about. I'm still
thinking about this movie as well, plot wise.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I'm pretty I'm pretty sure gonna watch it again.
I'm definitely gonna watch it again eventually. It was just
that good.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's not really like an action packed movie. It's it's
more story driven than anything. And then when the action happens,
it's it's real quick. It's it's like you said, it's
kind of like dut dust till Dawn, right, It's a
slow burn until the third act and that's when everything
kicks off, and then it just kind of ends quickly
after that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But the only difference between that and different dust Till
Down from Dust Till Done was just totally totally two
different films, right, and it flipped at a rate that
you wasn't ready for. With this, it was a slow
burn and it hit is like, oh okay, it's vampires.
But it didn't deviate or it didn't feel like it
was taking something away or you just feel like you
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just watching and totally to contract two totally different films
from Dusk to the Dme was just ridiculous in its
approach because it away from being this disgusting criminal movie
to this B level, C level vampire film filed of
just erotic themes, and it just flipped on the axis
(23:21):
a you was taking somewhere where you were just like
I was on my ALM was on a version of
leaving now I'm staying because I wanted to laugh at how.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Stupid this looks. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, So that's the only difference I would saying between
those between those two things, with this movie, it goes,
it blends itself perfectly. It didn't take it doesn't take
a speed bump. It goes smoothly into the transition.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
My opinion on seeing like a future of this franchise
is I don't really want this to be franchised in
a way like I really would love to, just like, hey,
this movie comes out, it's singular. We don't have to
worry about a TV series or like following up or
anything like that. However, I do feel like if they
do want to continue the storyline, I think there is
(24:04):
a great prequel with the two brothers. You bring Michael B.
Jordan back as the brothers again, because they talk about
this isn't even a spoiler thing, but like they mentioned
Chicago they come from. They come home from Chicago to
Mississippi to start a juke joint, and they keep talking
about Chicago throughout this movie, and it alludes to how
they got money or like how they did certain things
(24:25):
that I think there would be a great movie there
as a prequel. It would be a different genre, right,
it wouldn't be like a horror movie. But I don't
think it's a bad thing. I don't think you need
to I don't think you need to keep horror in
this world that like Ryan Coogler has created. I think
he's he's he's set it up to where you can
go in a couple different directions if you want to
continue it, or if you want to do a prequel.
(24:48):
There's material there to work with, So I'd love to
see a heist movie again with Michael B. Jordan coming
back as Smoke and Stack the two brothers, because again,
again he did a phenomenal job. Both those characters are great.
Both those character were totally fleshed out. They felt like
individual characters even though you're watching the same actor play them.
There's just enough mystery and intrigue there to like where
I would want to see another movie with them. I
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don't really want to see a sequel per se. I
don't need to see a sequel about what happens to
the characters after this movie. I think the prequel to
this is a lot more interesting than anything that could
come afterwards. And even then, you could still use the
prequel to set up the vampires for this original movie
The Sinners, if you wanted to. But I'm not here
to speculate entirely on what Ryan Cooler is going to do.
(25:31):
That's just my two cents, because obviously, if he makes
enough money back Warner Brothers does have it for twenty
five years, they will probably want to do a sequel
or a TV series, maybe a two series, right because
that seems to be the more justification on whether a
franchise is successful these days is if they get a
spinoff series versus a sequel movie. But whatever they decide
to do, hopefully they keep Ryan Coogler involved, because again,
(25:53):
phenomenal film.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Also to the actor that plays Sammy, who is the
heart of the film, who's actually the heart the main character? Yeah,
he's actually the main character. You know, Michael Jordan's on
the headlines and the posters list the actor that plays Sammy.
He's the one. Yeah, he's the one that played it
most important part.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You kind of see it through his eyes. I think
the whole story you you kind of see through his
eyes more than more so than Michael B.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Jordan.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Michael B. Jordan's there for the name Sammy is the
guy who plays Sammy, which I should look him up,
should stop calling him the guy who plays Sammy. Miles
Miles Caton Katon is his name.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He was great. Yeah, yeah, he was a great.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Film, great, great star of the show. I mean he
he's pretty much the like the integral piece of the movie.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yep, he is.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
He's an aspiring blues player. And so the two brothers
smoking Stack go to pick him up to play at
their their juke joint that they're setting up for the night.
So he really is like the heart and soul and
like middle piece of this film. Without Sammy as a character,
you don't really have the same movie at all.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
You really don't. The only thing that you have is
maybe like a twist at the end because you know
this he spoil some of it, but you know it's
a twist at the end that you know turns around.
So that's the only thing that's really in there that's
for really smoke instead. Everything else is a lot about sam.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It's really it's his story. Not not to spoil too much,
but you could almost do a sequel about him as well.
So again that goes back to how much lore and
world building there has been done in this film to
create a lived in feeling world. Well, what else can
we say about this movie?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
James?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
What else did You didn't have any kind of negative feelings,
Like there was nothing that was like, oh I wish
they would have done this better. I wish they would
have did this instead of that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
No, not really, Like I said, the only thing I
really was just critiqueous made with the vampire stuff. The
vampire stuff was just.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Kind of middle of the road.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, middle of the road, same vampire stuff We've always seen.
Nothing really any different.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
They do try to create a little bit of lore
with it, because there's exposition at the beginning of this film,
and it's right at the top, so it's not like
anything you would miss ordinarily, but it's kind of exposition
on Hey, I think blues blues music specifically, like if
you play it really good, it can attract like the
devil essentially, is the layman terms of what the exposition said, like, hey,
(28:10):
like bluece music is so powerful that it can attract
good and evil and sometimes you gotta be careful. That
kind of sets up the premise or the reasoning as
to why the vampires show up, because they really do
just kind of come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
They do. They do it when it comes on the scene,
It just pops out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, I don't I don't have too many negatives. There's
like one or two things to where I think at
some point in the film, you it seems like they're
going to introduce like a group of people hunting down
the vampires and then they just kind of like leave.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know, I know what thing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
So I don't know what happened there, and again this
could this could just be kind of like a door
left open for if you want to continue a story
you that's another avenue you can go. That's another spin
off or a TV series you can choose to do.
There's so many different bits and pieces that you could
really spin off with this if you want to. And
I don't want to keep going back to that. I'm
(29:01):
just like, off the top of my head, that's another
thing you could do if if Warner Brothers Ryan Coogler wanted.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
To do it is true, which I could see. I
don't think it see. This could definitely Warner Brother's version
of Blake. Maybe, oh man, what to do? Maybe maybe not?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Maybe let's back it up, James, Let's.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's you never know, do we? Well?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know what, if Warner Brothers can pull off Blade
before Marvel can, that'll be.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I mean the pretty much did it pretty much did.
But this movie came out twelve Blade it was even made,
because I remember when this movie was announced. This movie
was announced two years ago.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, two years ago, I think, and I think in
total he's been working on it for like four or
five years.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, it's been in the work, so I remember when
this was going down a pipeline.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
It has made fifty five million domestically, and it looks
like it's going to do seventy five million globally. This
is also the first like full week it's been out,
so I'm assuming it's gonna start it's gonna do much
more than that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think it's gonna do much more than it.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, the opening weekend it made forty eight million so far,
that's just opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, Variety, they they hate, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I saw something about that.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's kind of it's one.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Of those scummy things that they're doing just to get
like clicks, right, Like you write a crappy article about
a movie that's doing successful and you get like the
hate clicks and you get the hate shares.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And it's trash. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I think it's one of those like reverse psychology things.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's trash. It's complete trade. And like I said, this,
this movie was amazing. I'm glad to see her. Everyone
everyone's enjoying it. Happy for Warner Realers because they definitely
needed this, you know, with success of Minecraft and Centers,
you know, so they definitely need this. They definitely definitely
need this.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
By the way, did you know Hailey Stifel was like
one twelfth or whatever black, Like that's a.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Real Yeah, Yeah, that's real. Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That was an interesting learn I I thought they just
like did it for the movie, and I was like,
all right, that's kind of weird. And then a coworker
of mine was actually telling me how no, Yeah, like
her great grandfather or her grandfather is black, so she,
you know, genetically, she's got some blackness center and like
this was kind of a movie where she caught the
I guess learn about some of her roots. She was saying,
(31:06):
good for any stide film, My good, good experience for her.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
To sea was great. I love watching her egg all
these guys. Like I totally enjoyed the film. I will
see it again.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
This movie had like a lot more sex than I
thought was gonna be in it.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh, definitely a lot of sex.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Very sexual. There's like three or four sex scenes. I
am not exaggerating. There's like three or four like sex
scenes in this film.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So you're a kid that took your mom and I
once see this movie and you brought your mom and
your dad definitely a screamishing the scream machine your seat
when you saw it, we saw a covidose scenes.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
One real negative I can draw from this film, James,
is the fact that the trailers, not the first trailer,
because the first trailer was a great teaser, but the
subsequent trailers very spoilerly. I was trying to play myself
while watching the movie. I was trying to be like, well,
maybe maybe it's gonna explain that, like, you know, this
character who they show in the trailer is a vampire.
(32:03):
Maybe they've been a vampire the whole time. Maybe they'll
get you know, I'm trying to like second guess myself
so I can be a little bit surprised. But there
there's like two or three spoilers in the trailer that
really kind of messed it up for the movie.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's marketing, you know, marketing did that. Yeah, I'm pretty
sure Wyan Cooler had his way, he probably would never
showed that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Sometimes they don't get the decision right because you send,
you send your movie to like a trailer house, and
then they just cut a trailer and what you get
is what you get. Like Kingsman two had that problem, right,
Kingsman two callin first character came back from the dead
and it was supposed to be Yeah, it was supposed
to be a big surprise, and then the trailer is like, hey,
he's back and a couple other things are going on,
(32:42):
and yeah, I remember the director for Kingsman was like
really upset about it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
A lot of times they do that because they trying
to get the word out, so they wait, drum up
more anticipation for the film. But what they don't know
is the more vague that you could have filmed, and
long as you saw, as long as you showed the
trailer off, the people will see it. The more vague
it is, the more surprises that it's a store for me.
And then word of mouth turns out it's like, oh,
(33:07):
I mean, I gotta see this movie because I didn't
think this, you know, stuff like Barbarian.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Like in Barbarian, Oh yeah, Barbarian is totally different from
what you see in the trailer.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It was a vague and this new movie is coming
out weapons, you got this move weapons coming out him
even him, Jordan Peel, Marlon Wayans and stuff. So I'm like,
if you do that, take for example, Superman, I know
everyone wants to see another trailer for Superman, and I
know everyone's being very bullish on trying to spoil it
as much as they possible can. We don't really need
another trailer for Superman. You're because you're going to watch
(33:39):
the movie regardless. Anyway, they really got to stop doing it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
They either got to stop doing it or just start
making shorter trailers, because trailers are now like two or
three minutes long. Sometimes it's like, just like, just make
short teasers, a series of short teasers that just generate
enough interest to get the people in the movie, Like
don't don't give us the entire plot in two minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And you can't help but see it. Doesn't spoil I
mean you can help us see it because you got
to move there and watch them and watch a certain film.
So you go, you're going to get sport regardless. No,
unless you go, unless you go in there like ten
minutes before the movies though before the movie starts, or
or five of the movie starts.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But sometimes that's hard to gauge too, James, because the
movie theaters don't always play the movies on time. And
I know, I know and understand why, but yeah, sometimes
it's hard to even like dodge the trailers. If you
were trying to do that, you try to show up
five minutes late, and then it's still in the trailers.
So it just kind of depends on how how far
are you willing to go out of your way to
(34:34):
avoid spoiler trailers?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You know, Yeah, yeah, no, you're right right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's kind of all my thoughts on Sinners Again, a
phenomenal movie. Loved it, enjoyed it. I'm very glad I
went to the theaters to see it. You know, I
don't go to the theaters often too much anymore, but
when I do, Like, I think the last few movies
movies I've seen have been like top tier theater movies,
So that's always great. Looking forward to seeing what happens
with this franchise, if anything happens at all, I don't
(34:59):
think it necessarily does. I would definitely be interested in
seeing a Smoke and Stack prequel. I think that's your
biggest that could be your biggest thing right there, if
they were to do it. But that's that's later down
the road. Yeah, I mean, hey, that's that's all I got.
That's all you got.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, I'll do one point up this one quick point.
This is a little article about the oscars. Now. They
said they're going to start because hey, it's a bit
that we do that. We didn't know this, but they're
going to start watching all the films.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I saw that when someone was like, you haven't been
doing that already.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So it's like, so all this time, your mother been
doing it for years and just been just putting mows
on the ballot just because they know we're busy and
the popularity.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, well, you know, movie studios are going to start
looking at like influencers, I guess for casting, like they're
going to start looking at people's follower Yeah, I saw.
I mean, do you know what we've always known it's
a popularity contest, and I think it's every day or
like every other mon we're learning more and more about
how much of a popularity contest it is versus how
(36:05):
good a product is.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
That man she is? Do you think Sinners will get nominated?
If anything?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You know what, that's hard to say because for one,
it's a horror film. It's also an original story. But
that might help it because don't they have like an
original like category of some.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Sort originally, yeah, mis original, adaptive, screenplate.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I could see it doing that. I don't. I don't
know if it would get nominated for any other Oscar
it should, I mean, if anything, Michael B. Jordan should
get something or at least a nomination for his acting.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Or at least deep nominated for Best Adaptive Screenplay.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
No, for sure that one.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, I mean, come on, man, our music a musical category.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Not a musical inspiration. Cinematography was really good. That could yeah,
that could. That could warrant something.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Costume designs, so we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I mean, look, this is I think by the time
this comes out, this is the first full week that
it's been out, so obviously movie theater runs can range
from like two weeks to six months. So well, we'll
see how much more money it generates over its run time.
And this is a good success for Ryan Coogler. Now,
(37:10):
not like he hasn't had successes, but this is another
success for Ryan Cougler, And that's the more important part
about this. If you want to contact us and talk
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(37:32):
Instagram at James and Yeah, without further ado, I'm on
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Listen to those guys talk about anything everything. Always gonna
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