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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's time to go to the Hamilton's hotline. Hamilton's on
Magnolia and Ogletree, two restaurants, same name, two different locations.
Ogletree and Magnolia, both incredible places to dine. To Montgomery, Alabama,
we go the Alabama High School Athletic Associations headquarters to
bring in one of the best, Miss Kim Vickers. Good morning, Kim,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning d Mark.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm well.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How is everything at Ope? Like us?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We're good? I got Jeff and James coop Rover here,
two of my super seven folks.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Death and James, Good morning. How are you? I'm doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What's going on in Montgomery? Miss Kim?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Were all good? We're all good. You know. Spring sports
are in full blast, getting ready to start our finals
and several of our spring sports. So we're very busy
at the AHSA right now. You know, we kick off
with state tennis. We've got sectionals going on this week
and State next and then state based the baseball playoffs
start this week, so it's just never ending.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
There you go. Now, we had a big night last
night too with the Bright Jordan's Scholarship recipients up in
Birmingham where up down in Birmingham.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, sir, we did. It was a great night. Unfortunately
I was unable to attend. I was called for jury
summon yesterday and said the whole day in the courtroom
and the last minute got chosen to serve on a jury.
And so that's where I'll be today in the next
couple of days. Oh, I know how lucky I was
to get chosen to do that, but that's where I am.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I misread that text. I didn't know what you meant
by that. I was like, now I got the full
gamming of it. Now you got duty this morning. So
I thought you had bus duty or something out there
at the HS.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, no, sir, I said, I have been summon several
times over the years and have never I served on
grand jury one time, but never sat on a jury
until now and at a final fifty seven that were
narrowed down. I know how I got so lucky to
be one of those fourteens here. I am you a
good strong woman.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
They wanted to get a good opinion in their level
headed person.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm not sure about that. I am.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I am all right. So we had a big meeting
last week. It's Kim Vickers Alabama High School Athletic Director,
Assistant director with US alabam High School Athletic Association Assistant
Director with US KIM. We had a big board meeting
last week and Coach Harmon and his y'all heard a
group a couple of coaches present a talk about transfers.
Do you can you enlighten us a little bit on that?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I can? You know, transfers across the state has been
a hot topic for many years. It's not something that
just started. I tell people all the time. I still
remember back in like twenty eighteen, Coach Tavaie ask our
staff to get with them see to see which was
our software program at the time, and get the number
of transfers we had had throughout the years. And we
(02:51):
head back and this is twenty eighteen. Now we had
over three thousand and some odd I can't remember the
exact number, but it was like three thousand and five
hundred and something transfers during the years. And we were
just astounded when we saw that number, because you know,
you don't think that many people are transferring schools, but
at the time, you know, I think part of the
(03:14):
problem too is most people are hearing about the transfers
now if it transfirths have always been a problem. It's
not something new, but they're more noticeable now and the
social media exposure to these transfers have made it more known.
The transfers have always been there, but they seem to
be growing in number. I don't know exactly what the
(03:37):
number is for this year with the amount of transfers,
but I think part of it is the fact that
they're they're just more noticeable. Kids are tweeting it out
and they're posting it on the social media, and these
other agents, these recruiting agents and stuff are out there
are posting it that they're proud to announce they got
a kid to go from this school to that. Still
almost like the collegiate air about it, and they're trying
(04:00):
to emulate what they see at the collegiate level or
the pro level, and there the kids are posting it,
and I said, it just makes it more noticeable. But
transfers are an issue. They have been for several years.
And they're using the word non compliance transfers, which basically
means they're not transferring under the compliance of AHSA rules.
(04:23):
And so that's the main thing we're checking into more so,
did they truly make a bona fide moves to play
varsity immediately. But you know, back in twenty twenty, nineteen
and twenty, when our schools pass that rules that allows
transfers of any regardless of where you reside, to be
eligible for sub varsity, we did see our transfer numbers
(04:43):
increase even after that because kids now can transfer to
any school play at the subvarsity level for one year
and then they're eligible for varsity regardless of where they reside.
And that has caused our numbers to go up as well.
Sub perception too across the state. People are calling our office, well,
they don't live there, they're playing varsity and they don't
(05:06):
live in that school zone. Now they don't have to
if they've been in that school zone for over a year.
I've been in that school system for over a year.
They don't have to live there. And so, yeah, numbers
have increased, But it's just it's like a wild wild
West now. Kids and parents are more transient these days.
They're moving to school where they think their kids can
(05:26):
be seen and where the programs are successful. It's just
like I said, we've got to get a rein on it.
For sure. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Kim Vickers with US Alabama High School Athletic Association. You're
on the March, she's on the Hamlets sideline. You're in
the Orthopedic Clinic studio listening to US Jeff coach James
Cooper ms Vickers on the Camel's sideline. Kim, you know,
how do you like? You mentioned three thousand? Is there
a number today? Did you mention a number today of
how many?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I did not. I don't know that exact number. Mister
Harmon did send out a transfer request form to our
schools and ask them to submit it on data. You know,
we've been collecting transfer data probably for the last I'm
going to say five y oh, it's since a twenty sixteen.
But we hired the investigators to go out and check
(06:15):
these transfers. We've been asking for transfer data from the
member school and they were just filling out like a
PDF with the information and then bringing it into our
office and we would review it and look at the
number of transfers and then go back and investigate a
few of those. But we didn't have a way of
like compiling the data. So mister Harmond had our I
(06:37):
Guy Rodney Mills to create a digital form data seat
where we could collect the information. So this year our
schools were asked to complete the transfer data on this
the digital document and then when we download it, we
can put it into a spread seed it actually collect
the data. We can categorize the types of transfers, you
(06:59):
know they came from out of state where they made
a bona fide move, whether they're sub varsity and even
for our school systems and schools that have to ish
and we can identify those. So that's the information we've
just recently collected and putting that all together. So right
now I do not have a final number. I know
(07:20):
that number of the amount of transfers. I was just.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Curious, you feel much more. It was because that sounded
like a lot of number in eighteen when it was
three thousand, you know, yeah, and so non compliant. Now
what got what started this? Was this something? And where
do you know where they got their data? Kim coach
of gosh about said coach Samon, I mean coach Sessions
in coach Jager.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I do not. They had a group, five of them
got it together and they mentioned the man's name to
bounce with you, de Mark, I don't remember that put
it all together because they were basically looking at rosters.
They did say they pulled rosters from dragons. On the
public side of it, they can see rosters and compare
(08:03):
the rosters from one year to the year before or
even the two years before to see which ones were
on the rosters, and they were able to identify it.
And they didn't do every school. They just did some
of the most successful programs that they're seeing, and the
data was comparing like some of our successful teams that
are winning state championships compared to what they referred to
(08:26):
as community schools, and the community schools of those they're
saying that are playing with the kids that live there
and that have been there for more than since the
seventh grade or where they're in elementary school and have
worked their way up through the program. But I mean,
I've only been in this area, not this area, but
at the AHSA for eleven almost eleven years now, and
(08:50):
I have seen I won't say the deterioration, but I
will say almost the disappearance of community schools because of
open enrollment and so many of our schools and school
systems have now people are not living in the communities
where they're going to school. Most are, I'm going to
(09:12):
say most are, but they're not as common. You know,
back when I was in school in the eighties, me too.
I mean, ninety something percent of all schools or community schools,
if you didn't live in that community, you didn't go
to school.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Amen, you didn't have no choice, that's it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, you had no choice. But that's not the case now,
you know, I told someone other day. You know, back
in the old days, you lived in the community, you
went to school in the community. Your parents probably worked
in the community somewhere within twenty five or thirty miles,
and you went to church in the community. So it
was everything was done right there in the community. You
shopped in the community. That's not the population or the
(09:51):
generation we're living with now. I mean, people are driving
an hour an hour and a half to take their
kids to school now because the school has opened enrollment
and they're trying to get their kids into another school.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You see it. Even in travel sports, Kim, they'll drive
to be on a team two hours to practice, you
know what I mean, they will. It's a different day.
How do you get a grip on it? Or can you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
To be honest with a definite anger of panswer of
how to get a grip on it, I don't know,
buckling down on a when they're allowed to participate. See,
in the old days before this subvarsity rule changed, a
lot of people thought twice about changing schools because they
knew they were going to have to sit it out
of a year. Yeah, they were not able to play anything.
So if I have a child in the ninth grade,
(10:39):
I'm not referring to another school if he or she's
not going to be able to at least play something.
And when they had to see it, unless it was
for a dire emergency to move, they were not moving
schools because they said, well, I'm not going to sit
out for a year. I'm gonna stay where I am.
But now they can go and play so far city,
so they get to practice with the varsity, they can play,
(11:02):
you know, they can play on a JV team, and
we just basically they're playing the same number of games
and it's upper level you know a lot of times.
So well, it's the decision is easier now to make
that decision.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Very interesting, very interesting. I think it'll be something anything
else come from that meeting Kim that we should know about.
Would you'd like to hit on Let me go back
for that. What about investigators? Are they still out investigating Kim?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, yes, sure they are. We call upon them quite
often to go and check, you know, when a school
reports a situation, you know, if they report that, they
think of school is playing a student that hasn't made
a compliant, bonified move, and we see and send investigators
out to investigate those. And we have found several that
(11:49):
the schools are not doing their due delass and checking them,
and sadly they check them in the beginning and then
don't go back and continue to check them, and the
family moves out, you know, And that's the sad part
for the school and the program, because the school did
what they were supposed to do, they checked a bona
fide move when the family moved into the school zone.
(12:11):
And then, un knowing to the school, the family starts
going back to the previous home and then somebody's taking
pictures of them spending the night over there, and then
the investigators go and investigating. Sure enough they're going back
to the previous home and the school had no idea,
And I hate it for the school but it is
their responsibility to monitor that bonafide move for the initial
(12:34):
nine months, and it's a lot of work. I mean,
I've had a principal to ask me that that you
mean to tell me I'm supposed to continue to go
by that house for nine months and I said, unfortunately, yes, ma'am,
you are. And if you don't want to do that,
then don't let them play far.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I was going to say, they got a choice, don't they.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's so they have a choice. They don't have to
play them, and that's the problem. They think they have
to play them when they move in. But if said,
if you're worried about taking the bona fid notes and
don't play them, make them play for so far in
one year, and then you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
There you go. Let me shift gears again. Anything we'll
have anybody else join the age. Just say this year, Kim,
do you think we'll have any more applications?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right now? We don't for private schools. I mean, we've
got a couple of charter schools that are coming on.
We're seeing more and more of our charter schools opening
up and you know, joining but they get because they're
public charter schools. They get it missions because of being
just a public school basically, right. But at the moment,
we don't have any current interest in you know, any
(13:36):
large AISA schools or anything like that. We've got a
couple of little, small, you know, independent, uh private schools
that are just middle school only that have inquired but
they have not pursued it. That's the charter school over
in Livingston, Kim, I can't, I got it on.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's university University charter. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah. Is that the only shorder school we got in
the association right now?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh, no, sir, No. We have several uh we have
Excel and Mobile. We have I three in Birmingham, best
of up in that area, best of our area, and
we have Magic City Acceptance Academy. We have several participating
in sports now most of them are just starting. We
have Lead Academy and Montgomery that are just starting as
(14:26):
like middle schools and adding grades as they go up.
So but in the next three or five years we're
gonna have several that are playing at the high school level. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think you so too. It's getting stronger every day.
They just say, is Kim, I appreciate your time. I
know you've got a lot to do this morning and
I caught you on the wind, but thank you so much.
Everybody doing good, John, everybody good.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
They're doing well. Yeah. Like I said, we're in survival
mode with spring sports, but we're doing well.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Give ready everybody my love. Thank you so much for calling. Okay,
all right, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Kim.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Here Kim Vickers, assistant director at Alabama High School i
Letic Association, on the mark with us on this beautiful Tuesday.
That's time to go to the Hamilton's hotline. Hamilton's on
Magnolia and Ogletree, two restaurants, same name, two different locations.
Ogletree and Magnolia, both incredible places to dine. To Montgomery, Alabama,
we go the Alabama High School Athletic Associations headquarters to
bring in one of the best, Miss Kim Vickers. Good morning, Kim,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning d Mark.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm well.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How is everything at Ope? Like us?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We're good? I got Jeff and James coop Rover here,
two of my super seven folks.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Death and James, Good morning. How are you? I'm doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What's going on in Montgomery? Miss Kim?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Were all good? We're all good. You know. Spring sports
are in full blast, getting ready to start our finals
and several of our spring sports. So we're very busy
at the AHSA right now. You know, we kick off
with state tennis. We've got sectionals going on this week
and State next and then state based the baseball playoffs
start this week, so it's just never ending.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
There you go. Now, we had a big night last
night too with the Bright Jordan's Scholarship recipients up in
Birmingham where up down in Birmingham.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, sir, we did. It was a great night. Unfortunately
I was unable to attend. I was called for jury
summon yesterday and said the whole day in the courtroom
and the last minute got chosen to serve on a jury.
And so that's where I'll be today in the next
couple of days. Oh, I know how lucky I was
to get chosen to do that, but that's where I am.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I misread that text. I didn't know what you meant
by that. I was like, now I got the full
gamming of it. Now you got duty this morning. So
I thought you had bus duty or something out there
at the HS.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, no, sir, I said, I have been summon several
times over the years and have never I served on
grand jury one time, but never sat on a jury
until now and at a final fifty seven that were
narrowed down. I know how I got so lucky to
be one of those fourteens here. I am you a
good strong woman.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
They wanted to get a good opinion in their level
headed person.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm not sure about that. I am.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I am all right. So we had a big meeting
last week. It's Kim Vickers Alabama High School Athletic Director,
Assistant director with US alabam High School Athletic Association Assistant
Director with US KIM. We had a big board meeting
last week and Coach Harmon and his y'all heard a
group a couple of coaches present a talk about transfers.
Do you can you enlighten us a little bit on that?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I can? You know, transfers across the state has been
a hot topic for many years. It's not something that
just started. I tell people all the time. I still
remember back in like twenty eighteen, Coach Tavaie ask our
staff to get with them see to see which was
our software program at the time, and get the number
of transfers we had had throughout the years. And we
(02:51):
head back and this is twenty eighteen. Now we had
over three thousand and some odd I can't remember the
exact number, but it was like three thousand and five
hundred and something transfers during the years. And we were
just astounded when we saw that number, because you know,
you don't think that many people are transferring schools, but
at the time, you know, I think part of the
(03:14):
problem too is most people are hearing about the transfers
now if it transfirths have always been a problem. It's
not something new, but they're more noticeable now and the
social media exposure to these transfers have made it more known.
The transfers have always been there, but they seem to
be growing in number. I don't know exactly what the
(03:37):
number is for this year with the amount of transfers,
but I think part of it is the fact that
they're they're just more noticeable. Kids are tweeting it out
and they're posting it on the social media, and these
other agents, these recruiting agents and stuff are out there
are posting it that they're proud to announce they got
a kid to go from this school to that. Still
almost like the collegiate air about it, and they're trying
(04:00):
to emulate what they see at the collegiate level or
the pro level, and there the kids are posting it,
and I said, it just makes it more noticeable. But
transfers are an issue. They have been for several years.
And they're using the word non compliance transfers, which basically
means they're not transferring under the compliance of AHSA rules.
(04:23):
And so that's the main thing we're checking into more so,
did they truly make a bona fide moves to play
varsity immediately. But you know, back in twenty twenty, nineteen
and twenty, when our schools pass that rules that allows
transfers of any regardless of where you reside, to be
eligible for sub varsity, we did see our transfer numbers
(04:43):
increase even after that because kids now can transfer to
any school play at the subvarsity level for one year
and then they're eligible for varsity regardless of where they reside.
And that has caused our numbers to go up as well.
Sub perception too across the state. People are calling our office, well,
they don't live there, they're playing varsity and they don't
(05:06):
live in that school zone. Now they don't have to
if they've been in that school zone for over a year.
I've been in that school system for over a year.
They don't have to live there. And so, yeah, numbers
have increased, But it's just it's like a wild wild
West now. Kids and parents are more transient these days.
They're moving to school where they think their kids can
(05:26):
be seen and where the programs are successful. It's just
like I said, we've got to get a rein on it.
For sure. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Kim Vickers with US Alabama High School Athletic Association. You're
on the March, she's on the Hamlets sideline. You're in
the Orthopedic Clinic studio listening to US Jeff coach James
Cooper ms Vickers on the Camel's sideline. Kim, you know,
how do you like? You mentioned three thousand? Is there
a number today? Did you mention a number today of
how many?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I did not. I don't know that exact number. Mister
Harmon did send out a transfer request form to our
schools and ask them to submit it on data. You know,
we've been collecting transfer data probably for the last I'm
going to say five y oh, it's since a twenty sixteen.
But we hired the investigators to go out and check
(06:15):
these transfers. We've been asking for transfer data from the
member school and they were just filling out like a
PDF with the information and then bringing it into our
office and we would review it and look at the
number of transfers and then go back and investigate a
few of those. But we didn't have a way of
like compiling the data. So mister Harmond had our I
(06:37):
Guy Rodney Mills to create a digital form data seat
where we could collect the information. So this year our
schools were asked to complete the transfer data on this
the digital document and then when we download it, we
can put it into a spread seed it actually collect
the data. We can categorize the types of transfers, you
(06:59):
know they came from out of state where they made
a bona fide move, whether they're sub varsity and even
for our school systems and schools that have to ish
and we can identify those. So that's the information we've
just recently collected and putting that all together. So right
now I do not have a final number. I know
(07:20):
that number of the amount of transfers. I was just.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Curious, you feel much more. It was because that sounded
like a lot of number in eighteen when it was
three thousand, you know, yeah, and so non compliant. Now
what got what started this? Was this something? And where
do you know where they got their data? Kim coach
of gosh about said coach Samon, I mean coach Sessions
in coach Jager.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I do not. They had a group, five of them
got it together and they mentioned the man's name to
bounce with you, de Mark, I don't remember that put
it all together because they were basically looking at rosters.
They did say they pulled rosters from dragons. On the
public side of it, they can see rosters and compare
(08:03):
the rosters from one year to the year before or
even the two years before to see which ones were
on the rosters, and they were able to identify it.
And they didn't do every school. They just did some
of the most successful programs that they're seeing, and the
data was comparing like some of our successful teams that
are winning state championships compared to what they referred to
(08:26):
as community schools, and the community schools of those they're
saying that are playing with the kids that live there
and that have been there for more than since the
seventh grade or where they're in elementary school and have
worked their way up through the program. But I mean,
I've only been in this area, not this area, but
at the AHSA for eleven almost eleven years now, and
(08:50):
I have seen I won't say the deterioration, but I
will say almost the disappearance of community schools because of
open enrollment and so many of our schools and school
systems have now people are not living in the communities
where they're going to school. Most are, I'm going to
(09:12):
say most are, but they're not as common. You know,
back when I was in school in the eighties, me too.
I mean, ninety something percent of all schools or community schools,
if you didn't live in that community, you didn't go
to school.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Amen, you didn't have no choice, that's it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, you had no choice. But that's not the case now,
you know, I told someone other day. You know, back
in the old days, you lived in the community, you
went to school in the community. Your parents probably worked
in the community somewhere within twenty five or thirty miles,
and you went to church in the community. So it
was everything was done right there in the community. You
shopped in the community. That's not the population or the
(09:51):
generation we're living with now. I mean, people are driving
an hour an hour and a half to take their
kids to school now because the school has opened enrollment
and they're trying to get their kids into another school.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You see it. Even in travel sports, Kim, they'll drive
to be on a team two hours to practice, you
know what I mean, they will. It's a different day.
How do you get a grip on it? Or can you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
To be honest with a definite anger of panswer of
how to get a grip on it, I don't know,
buckling down on a when they're allowed to participate. See,
in the old days before this subvarsity rule changed, a
lot of people thought twice about changing schools because they
knew they were going to have to sit it out
of a year. Yeah, they were not able to play anything.
So if I have a child in the ninth grade,
(10:39):
I'm not referring to another school if he or she's
not going to be able to at least play something.
And when they had to see it, unless it was
for a dire emergency to move, they were not moving
schools because they said, well, I'm not going to sit
out for a year. I'm gonna stay where I am.
But now they can go and play so far city,
so they get to practice with the varsity, they can play,
(11:02):
you know, they can play on a JV team, and
we just basically they're playing the same number of games
and it's upper level you know a lot of times.
So well, it's the decision is easier now to make
that decision.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Very interesting, very interesting. I think it'll be something anything
else come from that meeting Kim that we should know about.
Would you'd like to hit on Let me go back
for that. What about investigators? Are they still out investigating Kim?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, yes, sure they are. We call upon them quite
often to go and check, you know, when a school
reports a situation, you know, if they report that, they
think of school is playing a student that hasn't made
a compliant, bonified move, and we see and send investigators
out to investigate those. And we have found several that
(11:49):
the schools are not doing their due delass and checking them,
and sadly they check them in the beginning and then
don't go back and continue to check them, and the
family moves out, you know, And that's the sad part
for the school and the program, because the school did
what they were supposed to do, they checked a bona
fide move when the family moved into the school zone.
(12:11):
And then, un knowing to the school, the family starts
going back to the previous home and then somebody's taking
pictures of them spending the night over there, and then
the investigators go and investigating. Sure enough they're going back
to the previous home and the school had no idea,
And I hate it for the school but it is
their responsibility to monitor that bonafide move for the initial
(12:34):
nine months, and it's a lot of work. I mean,
I've had a principal to ask me that that you
mean to tell me I'm supposed to continue to go
by that house for nine months and I said, unfortunately, yes, ma'am,
you are. And if you don't want to do that,
then don't let them play far.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I was going to say, they got a choice, don't they.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's so they have a choice. They don't have to
play them, and that's the problem. They think they have
to play them when they move in. But if said,
if you're worried about taking the bona fid notes and
don't play them, make them play for so far in
one year, and then you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
There you go. Let me shift gears again. Anything we'll
have anybody else join the age. Just say this year, Kim,
do you think we'll have any more applications?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right now? We don't for private schools. I mean, we've
got a couple of charter schools that are coming on.
We're seeing more and more of our charter schools opening
up and you know, joining but they get because they're
public charter schools. They get it missions because of being
just a public school basically, right. But at the moment,
we don't have any current interest in you know, any
(13:36):
large AISA schools or anything like that. We've got a
couple of little, small, you know, independent, uh private schools
that are just middle school only that have inquired but
they have not pursued it. That's the charter school over
in Livingston, Kim, I can't, I got it on.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's university University charter. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah. Is that the only shorder school we got in
the association right now?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh, no, sir, No. We have several uh we have
Excel and Mobile. We have I three in Birmingham, best
of up in that area, best of our area, and
we have Magic City Acceptance Academy. We have several participating
in sports now most of them are just starting. We
have Lead Academy and Montgomery that are just starting as
(14:26):
like middle schools and adding grades as they go up.
So but in the next three or five years we're
gonna have several that are playing at the high school level. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think you so too. It's getting stronger every day.
They just say, is Kim, I appreciate your time. I
know you've got a lot to do this morning and
I caught you on the wind, but thank you so much.
Everybody doing good, John, everybody good.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
They're doing well. Yeah. Like I said, we're in survival
mode with spring sports, but we're doing well.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Give ready everybody my love. Thank you so much for calling. Okay,
all right, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Kim.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Here Kim Vickers, assistant director at Alabama High School i
Letic Association, on the mark with us on this beautiful Tuesday.
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